I think him being the classical chess world champion, with Magnus’ shadow looming large over him and all the media attention and community opinions, he’s struggling to deal with all of that. Not everyone is able to deal with all that pressure and negativity, I just hope that he finds a way and gets back to playing chess at the highest level.
Magnus is the greatest chess player but he has a nasty manipulative personality, he definitely expected people would still crown him as the WC despite all that and this would put a lot of pressure on the winner of the WCC, these things are just mind games to him.
Honestly the current Ding is unlikely to be able to defend the world championship title.... As Magnus has said... The championship match takes a lot more out of people than you realize... That ding hasn't recovered from it is proof of that. Hopefully he can fully recover and return to form though
@@feelcollins4358I don’t see what Magnus gains by trying to play mind games with Ding? I mean, he probably correctly to assumed he could have all the financial and personal benefits of his status as the GOAT without the pressure and exhaustion of defending his world title which is maybe a bit unfair. But I don’t see any reason for him to want to manipulate other players by giving up his title?
@@lukebbuff His mind games is not on ding personally but to the chess world, basically "yeah he's the champ but y'all know deep down I'm the best" Which he isn't wrong but he made it so no one else could get the chance to challenge that narrative by not participating in the WCC so the pressure is directed at the winner in the end, he will be known as one of the weaker WC in history because he didn't "face the best"
People criticizing Ding and calling him weakest world champion doesn't even realize how gifted a chess player he is. Even with all his health issues and mental problems he managed to clench the title against Nepo who himself is one of the best in the world. I really wish he gets rid of his issues and once again gives the world a glimpse of prime Ding whom even Magnus used to consider one of the best.
🤣 yea the evil knight chess pieces are sooooo traumatic that it triggers a disorder. I really can’t stand this new age“ everyone has a disorder.” He said he was depressed, take him at his word.
@@alexj835i mean I agree, everyone nowadays tries to label themselves with some mental illness to excuse their shortcomings... But Depression is just as much of a mental disorder as PTSD
@@alexj835 stress can induce traumas; that's in fact how they start as default. Post traumatic stress disorder is exactly that - trauma induced stress.
Watching that Candidates cycle and the world championship I couldn't help but cheer for him. His bromance with Rapport, his family supporting him, his honesty when speaking, even if he loses the title, I want to see him go back to high level chess
I think the problem is he could not convince himself that he is the best player in the world. The way he won the title, and that Magnus' legacy was still there. Because of that, all the obligations of the WC don't make sense to him. In interviews we often see Ding say, he believes in positions, etcetc... This means he really trusts his judgements of the objective situation and let that decide his feeling about said situation. If Nepo won, he would happily believe that he won as the best player in the world, truth is obviously much more complicated and people will believe otherwise, but it is what he needs to hold this crown
Ding is like Australia in cricket. He'll be about alright in normal games without muxh weightage but pull out an absolute comeback performance in the title match. Imagine him not winning much the entire year but keeps on retaining the championship each year by outclassing opponents when it matters most. Would be so hilarious.
It felt like Ding didn't really want to win the world championship and finally retire but even he wasn't expecting to win. Now he has all this pressure and eyes on him when you can tell he seems to be someone who isn't some aggressive competitor
Maybe his blunder at the very end of the world championship wasn't a blunder at all. The crown was too heavy for him and he must take care of his health.
I am an Indian, but I'll be heartbroken if I see Ding collapses like game 6 of last time .He has some serious mental problem to solve. I want the fighting Ding back. Yes it's India vs Chiana, but man, he is Ding 😢 I feel for him 😢
Im here after he lost title in an intense match where he managed to take the lead,make a comeback, But blunder it away in round 14 when the scores were 6.5-6.5.
You know what crazy ding a super GM one of the best players in the world. He might go on to win 5 world title and lose so many tournaments in between but might (bad luck ) have a good showing when defending his title and go on a decade as world championship
@@blizyon30fps86 that’s your prediction. He says he will defend it. I trust his word lol. I just mean you don’t have much grounds to assume it’s a ‘good chance’, you don’t know him.
I believe that prime Ding can definitely take an inexperienced Gukesh, he took down Nepo after all and I rate Nepo higher than Gukesh in classical. Skill can only do so much when it comes to World Championship pressure, but Ding not being at his best will make the World Championship definitely more competitive. Also that press clip when he talks about depression was really sad :\
Ding had to become a chess champion after Magnus Carlsen decided not to play. The Media didn't think of his has the champion despite him "officially" being one. Obviously dude felt depressed.
He lost to gukesh and seemed quite happy. I don't know but ding really was not prepared like a champion to defend , we can see his play too many blunders in his game , maybe he doesn't want to get into the limelight after winning Idk . He is one of the best of the modern era but mental health issues have really caught him. Hope he recovers well and gets happy and enjoys chess again
I as an Indian will obviously support Gukesh's victory but i truly hope that Ding recovers and gives as tough fight as possible. I dont wanna feel sadder for ding's loss than feel happy for Gukesh's win. Bounce back Ding, never forget you defied the odds in 2023, thats what champs do!!!
I think it's really sad that Magnus never defended his title. I think ding was dealt a very horrible deal where if he lost he would have not be champion but by winning he would still be considered second. Very sad
Being second to Magnus isn’t sad at all. I don’t blame Magnus for not defending, that’s his choice and who wanted to watch Magnus toying with Nepo again.
I think it's great that he got the championship. I like ding a lot but I mean just the idea that some people will think he doesn't deserve it because he didn't face Magnus to get it is sad. Like he's clearly put in a lot of work but stupid people will still look down on him which can't be easy for him mentally
@@damian4590 That’s true. Add in his health problems hindering his ability to compete and people forget how formidable he was before the Championship when he was qualifying for the Candidates. I hope he can defend his title, it will be exciting to watch.
I completely agree. I really hope Ding is able to bounce back and defend his title. But the priority, obviously, is that he recovers from his mental and physical problems. Even if he needs another break, as long as it has to be
So I like magnus who care about none, if you care about none u can't get so much pressurized, just be yourself and play at your best without any expectations that's the best thing of all . Yeah, I feel bad for ding not for how he plays, he is very good but how people put so much pressure on it and he is actually worried about it which is heart breaking. I hope he finds his way and recover soon from this thing that's going on in his life. Best luck ding. Hikaru is one of the happiest chess player and love for hikaru and magnus
I assume Ding's problem is that Magnus willingly gave up the WC title. Everyone still knows Magnus is the best player in the world by a large margin and we remember how good of an ambassador he is for chess and was when he was the WC. Ding knows he can never reach that level and he knows he is the world champion by name only. That troubles him and is a mental problem. As a world champion he is contantly compared to Magnus in every way and expected to perform, both playing and representing chess, like Magnus does and did as a world champion. Ding knows he can never do that or reach that level and that gets into his nerves.
Best wishes for Ding to defend his title but if he thinks he wont be able to come close to defending his title he must consider withdrawing, it wont mean much either way rather it'll suck to serve World Champion title to Gukesh on a silver platter!
If you enjoy this type of content I would recommend you check out FlameIsLucky. He's made 2 chess documentaries so far and both of them are very well made.
one needs to layoff people and respects their struggles... people need to stop digging and leave him alone..there is more to him than being a chess champion ... he doesn't need to answer to anyone or prove anything to anyone... may he find health and happiness however it is..people who haven't achieved much in life dont get to comment on those who have touched the sky .. period..
The only person objectively better than ding is Magnus. Everyone claims they are better but lost championship spot to Gukesh. If Ding plays world championship with Gukesh, he’ll win easily!
Ding is walking very slowly and when he shakes hands you can see it is with a very weak grip. Could it be that Ding is suffering from Parkinson's disease?
Look at his weight fluctuating, there is something wrong for sure. He is not as glamourous as carlsen. He is shy and wants to remain a bit of private it seems.
He plan to take a sabbath and retire for good after world chess champion , but subconciously, he too focus on the game, he forgot his goals ,as if like once he reached Everest n come down alive, he is liable to hike the K2, signing the death cert, cos only best hiker is obliged to fullfill this goal or be mocked and rejected if it choose not to😂
@@thegorn Also makes me wonder if the CPP cares at all about their representation in chess like the Soviets used to. Not saying they'd threaten and force Ding to compete, but if the government (not just the CPP) asks you to do something.. you do it
@@TheCheckmateCorner ok btw I absolutely loved your video about nepo vs ding i think i watched it like 4 or 5 times now. Can you make a video about hikaru or another world championship?
I think him being the classical chess world champion, with Magnus’ shadow looming large over him and all the media attention and community opinions, he’s struggling to deal with all of that. Not everyone is able to deal with all that pressure and negativity, I just hope that he finds a way and gets back to playing chess at the highest level.
even magnus gets criticised by haters when he loses a single game, it must have been so much worse for ding.
Magnus is the greatest chess player but he has a nasty manipulative personality, he definitely expected people would still crown him as the WC despite all that and this would put a lot of pressure on the winner of the WCC, these things are just mind games to him.
Honestly the current Ding is unlikely to be able to defend the world championship title.... As Magnus has said... The championship match takes a lot more out of people than you realize... That ding hasn't recovered from it is proof of that.
Hopefully he can fully recover and return to form though
@@feelcollins4358I don’t see what Magnus gains by trying to play mind games with Ding?
I mean, he probably correctly to assumed he could have all the financial and personal benefits of his status as the GOAT without the pressure and exhaustion of defending his world title which is maybe a bit unfair. But I don’t see any reason for him to want to manipulate other players by giving up his title?
@@lukebbuff His mind games is not on ding personally but to the chess world, basically "yeah he's the champ but y'all know deep down I'm the best" Which he isn't wrong but he made it so no one else could get the chance to challenge that narrative by not participating in the WCC so the pressure is directed at the winner in the end, he will be known as one of the weaker WC in history because he didn't "face the best"
People criticizing Ding and calling him weakest world champion doesn't even realize how gifted a chess player he is. Even with all his health issues and mental problems he managed to clench the title against Nepo who himself is one of the best in the world. I really wish he gets rid of his issues and once again gives the world a glimpse of prime Ding whom even Magnus used to consider one of the best.
He beat the same person who went toe to toe with Magnus. Saying Ding is the weakest world champion is... dumb.
Nepo got frustration and Ding got depression. The show goes on.
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Dude, this guy's documentaries are incredible
You don't watch many documentaries do you
@@jaylenlenear3944 not on chess, can u show me some? I mean his chess documentaries specifically
@@jaylenlenear3944 not about chess. Can u suggest me some other ones?
@@jaylenlenear3944 Yes he does
“Heavy is the head that wears the crown”
Woah
King of the legion dialogue
Yoga me is.
Definitely the the most wholesome and human world champion of all time that's for sure
i hope Ding bounces back from whatever he is going through ... Wishing him all the Luck :)
Wishing dung liren bad luck. I hate china as I am 🇮🇳
Will be rooting for Ding all the way. But I really fear that perhaps the stress of the championship gave Ding something akin to PTSD.
🤣 yea the evil knight chess pieces are sooooo traumatic that it triggers a disorder. I really can’t stand this new age“ everyone has a disorder.” He said he was depressed, take him at his word.
@@alexj835i mean I agree, everyone nowadays tries to label themselves with some mental illness to excuse their shortcomings... But Depression is just as much of a mental disorder as PTSD
@@alexj835 I mean... you can get PTSD from anything. He literally said he has issues with stress; and that's what PTSD is.
@ no you simply cannot. Stop spreading nonsense.
@@alexj835 stress can induce traumas; that's in fact how they start as default. Post traumatic stress disorder is exactly that - trauma induced stress.
Im here after he blundered a move in chess world championship..
yeah really sad for ding :(
I love your videos, the one about Ding’s entire ride to the top was very good! You could make some insanely good documentaries!
Watching that Candidates cycle and the world championship I couldn't help but cheer for him.
His bromance with Rapport, his family supporting him, his honesty when speaking, even if he loses the title, I want to see him go back to high level chess
Nepo really wanted the crown
he cursed him😂
Ding is too OP for nepo
@@danielbattle7620 well Nepo won the candidates twice, ding only won because of magnus stepping away. Honestly i hope Ding defends his title.
Well, should've played better lol.
Then he should play better.
I think the problem is he could not convince himself that he is the best player in the world. The way he won the title, and that Magnus' legacy was still there. Because of that, all the obligations of the WC don't make sense to him. In interviews we often see Ding say, he believes in positions, etcetc... This means he really trusts his judgements of the objective situation and let that decide his feeling about said situation. If Nepo won, he would happily believe that he won as the best player in the world, truth is obviously much more complicated and people will believe otherwise, but it is what he needs to hold this crown
Ding is like Australia in cricket. He'll be about alright in normal games without muxh weightage but pull out an absolute comeback performance in the title match. Imagine him not winning much the entire year but keeps on retaining the championship each year by outclassing opponents when it matters most. Would be so hilarious.
This guy has like 5 videos and is still getting better with each one. Keep it up!
Imagine he is still strong. He just losing games and saccing his rating because he wants to be free and live a happy and tention less life
I love Ding, no one will ever change that❤
It felt like Ding didn't really want to win the world championship and finally retire but even he wasn't expecting to win. Now he has all this pressure and eyes on him when you can tell he seems to be someone who isn't some aggressive competitor
I am a gukesh fan through and through but ding is a GOATed player
Ding and Hans are on opposite sides of the personality spectrum. Maybe they should train together 🤔
I don't think so , i think they're alike , hans just can cover it good
Maybe his blunder at the very end of the world championship wasn't a blunder at all. The crown was too heavy for him and he must take care of his health.
after game 12 i can truly say, the old ding is back.
The humble Goat.
Ding chilling
💀
🤣
He’s not bro needs to take a break
You said this before the world chess championship 🤯
This documentary is great! I've known a bit about Ding but never the full extent of his story and you covered it really well. Congrats!
I am an Indian, but I'll be heartbroken if I see Ding collapses like game 6 of last time .He has some serious mental problem to solve. I want the fighting Ding back. Yes it's India vs Chiana, but man, he is Ding 😢 I feel for him 😢
Im here after he lost title in an intense match where he managed to take the lead,make a comeback, But blunder it away in round 14 when the scores were 6.5-6.5.
You know what crazy ding a super GM one of the best players in the world. He might go on to win 5 world title and lose so many tournaments in between but might (bad luck ) have a good showing when defending his title and go on a decade as world championship
There’s a good chance he won’t even try to defend his title next candidates
What's crazy is your punctuation.
@@blizyon30fps86says who?
@@gusleffers9265 says his mental state
@@blizyon30fps86 that’s your prediction. He says he will defend it. I trust his word lol. I just mean you don’t have much grounds to assume it’s a ‘good chance’, you don’t know him.
I predict the world championship crown for the next decade wouod be swapping hands like hell , it will be great experience to watch the whole thing
I believe that prime Ding can definitely take an inexperienced Gukesh, he took down Nepo after all and I rate Nepo higher than Gukesh in classical. Skill can only do so much when it comes to World Championship pressure, but Ding not being at his best will make the World Championship definitely more competitive.
Also that press clip when he talks about depression was really sad :\
Not more competitive, Gukesh is a clear favourite
@@amiteshsingh4165so was Nepo
I’m proud of Ding.
At least Ding played chess after winning the title- unlike Bobby Fischer.
Bobby Fischer is the greatest and most dominant player oat
@@Mihailo0 + no one was close to him
@@Mihailo0 Kasparov was also dominant, and he didn’t leave chess for 20 years
@@Mihailo0 Calling Fischer "dominant" is pathetic
@@Artimonsta i was dominant w your mom last night tho kid 😂
Bro Ding can't handle the title for one year made 10 years of Magnus dominance even more impressive
He’s struggling with mental issues. No need to turn his depression/mental health into another way to lick Magnus.
Shut up
Bro it's cringe his preparation got leaked he played without preparation and still came out on top, not an easy feat
and ding has mental issues, it’s not fair to compare.
Ding had to become a chess champion after Magnus Carlsen decided not to play. The Media didn't think of his has the champion despite him "officially" being one. Obviously dude felt depressed.
He lost to gukesh and seemed quite happy.
I don't know but ding really was not prepared like a champion to defend , we can see his play too many blunders in his game , maybe he doesn't want to get into the limelight after winning Idk .
He is one of the best of the modern era but mental health issues have really caught him.
Hope he recovers well and gets happy and enjoys chess again
who is here after he won the 1st match ??
Ding is recovering I can see it
Love you Ding!! ❤I hope you are keeping welll❤
I as an Indian will obviously support Gukesh's victory but i truly hope that Ding recovers and gives as tough fight as possible. I dont wanna feel sadder for ding's loss than feel happy for Gukesh's win.
Bounce back Ding, never forget you defied the odds in 2023, thats what champs do!!!
You are right.
Ding may have lost but it was 6.5 to 7.5, so Ding played very well. Congrats to Gukesh!
I really hope that Ding finds help for what ever it is he's going through.
ding needs resilience and stoicism
He prioritized his mental health over some title. And that is mature and difficult for some people.
I think it's really sad that Magnus never defended his title. I think ding was dealt a very horrible deal where if he lost he would have not be champion but by winning he would still be considered second. Very sad
Being second to Magnus isn’t sad at all. I don’t blame Magnus for not defending, that’s his choice and who wanted to watch Magnus toying with Nepo again.
I think it's great that he got the championship. I like ding a lot but I mean just the idea that some people will think he doesn't deserve it because he didn't face Magnus to get it is sad. Like he's clearly put in a lot of work but stupid people will still look down on him which can't be easy for him mentally
@@damian4590 That’s true. Add in his health problems hindering his ability to compete and people forget how formidable he was before the Championship when he was qualifying for the Candidates. I hope he can defend his title, it will be exciting to watch.
what now? Carlson defended the number one spot four times
@@dynamotexan Not everyone is carlsen
I think he is just tired, that's fine.
If it were just that, he would have slept it off by now.
Ding at 85% can beat Gukesh at 100%. The question is will Ding be at 85% form by the time of the match
I completely agree. I really hope Ding is able to bounce back and defend his title.
But the priority, obviously, is that he recovers from his mental and physical problems. Even if he needs another break, as long as it has to be
Well I don't know, Gukesh is rated almost 50 points over Ding right now. That's a crazy gap to make up
@@grottphd9090 Cause Ding is having real Problems, I think he is working hard and everything but is just mentally crushed by something
Every player's 100% is variable and changes at any given time.
Gukesh is unstoppable right now
Won gold for india & gave the all time highest Olympiad match rating ever.
The more videos I have seen of Ding, i feel more sad for him. May he recovers soon ❤️
4:03 Bruh, even his competitor in the world championship is right beside him, even in 1:50. That battle really needs recovery for both.
If only he knew the cow opening…
Just found out about the checkmate corner. Great videos!
So I like magnus who care about none, if you care about none u can't get so much pressurized, just be yourself and play at your best without any expectations that's the best thing of all . Yeah, I feel bad for ding not for how he plays, he is very good but how people put so much pressure on it and he is actually worried about it which is heart breaking. I hope he finds his way and recover soon from this thing that's going on in his life. Best luck ding.
Hikaru is one of the happiest chess player and love for hikaru and magnus
Ding and gukesh tied with two games left, hoping for ding to win come on bro
its the media's / people's fault calling WC Ding Liren its out of luck that made him into depression
The bro was gonna retire after the championship qualifiers, did not expect to win it.
Great narration, very poetic
can you make a video on this year's bullet chess championship? :D
I assume Ding's problem is that Magnus willingly gave up the WC title. Everyone still knows Magnus is the best player in the world by a large margin and we remember how good of an ambassador he is for chess and was when he was the WC.
Ding knows he can never reach that level and he knows he is the world champion by name only. That troubles him and is a mental problem. As a world champion he is contantly compared to Magnus in every way and expected to perform, both playing and representing chess, like Magnus does and did as a world champion. Ding knows he can never do that or reach that level and that gets into his nerves.
Rooting for ding.
Gukesh so humble person.watch every moment nd decide.so grt kid of India.
A fear of achievement ? Maybe had a lousy childhood and doesn't feel worthy of success
Who watches this after he lost the world championship..😢
does someone know which piano music is played in the background at the beginning?
This is more about if Ding wants to be chess chamion again... I highly doiubt it.
Chess or not hope God bless Ding 🙏
N he will get all the happiness in world❤hope he will get happy n healthy
Best wishes for Ding to defend his title but if he thinks he wont be able to come close to defending his title he must consider withdrawing, it wont mean much either way rather it'll suck to serve World Champion title to Gukesh on a silver platter!
great videos, you fill a niche in chess youtube content that is missing
Thank you!
If you enjoy this type of content I would recommend you check out FlameIsLucky. He's made 2 chess documentaries so far and both of them are very well made.
Ding is a protagonist
The fact that nepo caruana and hikarus best chance to the crown was snuffed by a teenager is heart breaking
y hate
You got to perform when it matters the most
one needs to layoff people and respects their struggles... people need to stop digging and leave him alone..there is more to him than being a chess champion ... he doesn't need to answer to anyone or prove anything to anyone... may he find health and happiness however it is..people who haven't achieved much in life dont get to comment on those who have touched the sky .. period..
We are human being after all has been said n done , we need time to calm things down,,,,
bro feel depress for winning the world championship.
We have little disapponted over his performance lately, he is and Indian players are represented asia in chess....come on Ding get ready.
@TheCheckmateCorner Can I know what is the misics you use?
He lost world championship 2024, blundered the last move, may be INTENTIONALLY LOST .. more power to Ding
Nice video!
69%... nice.
I was looking for this comment 😂😂
Chess is the hardest game.
I feel gukesh has a really good chance of defeating a ding not at his highest
I rooted for Ding when he went against Nepo, but i sadly believe Gukesh will beat him by a considerable margin
No way
@@eddyirategekanya336 Yes way
Considering the fact that gukesh has become even stronger after candidates.
Well no@@_Infocars
2678 performance level is 9th place out of 14 players? *Wow* So they’re like playing *stockfish*
relax, he's just saving strats for when he defends the title 😅
he just need richard raport .
Wait is this a reuploade? Did I miss something?
00: 35 Ding looks about 12 , a stiff breeze would blow him over .
Hey tbf he didn't plan on winning the title anyway he said he was gonna quick chess after the game if it werent fore ding actually won
The only person objectively better than ding is Magnus. Everyone claims they are better but lost championship spot to Gukesh. If Ding plays world championship with Gukesh, he’ll win easily!
😂😂ok
@@crbgaming6683 lol they had the chance to prove me wrong in the last candidate and he beat every single one of them and won the championship
@@kaybest9607 whom are you talking about?
World championship will never determine skill. There’s a reason he was so shit during Norway chess
@@blizyon30fps86 no bro it's not right wcc does matter but ding is out of form so he blunderd his games so badly
Is there anyone here after gukesh won the world championship
Reupload? 😂
Gukesh is small boy plz bless him
How many of you here after world championship final
Ding is walking very slowly and when he shakes hands you can see it is with a very weak grip. Could it be that Ding is suffering from Parkinson's disease?
No bro wtf
It's probably nervousness.
His demeanors is like that even during his prime. The crown is just too heavy for him.
Have you seen chess players shake hands before? There are even compilations of the weirdest handshakes. Looks pretty normal for a chess player
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Look at his weight fluctuating, there is something wrong for sure. He is not as glamourous as carlsen. He is shy and wants to remain a bit of private it seems.
He should team up with Anish Giri for preparation, then ue won't be depressed anymore 😅😅
He plan to take a sabbath and retire for good after world chess champion , but subconciously, he too focus on the game, he forgot his goals ,as if like once he reached Everest n come down alive, he is liable to hike the K2, signing the death cert, cos only best hiker is obliged to fullfill this goal or be mocked and rejected if it choose not to😂
he probably is being force to play
Weird thing to say without any proof
His tiger-mom is all over him
@@thegorn Also makes me wonder if the CPP cares at all about their representation in chess like the Soviets used to. Not saying they'd threaten and force Ding to compete, but if the government (not just the CPP) asks you to do something.. you do it
@@thegorn some people will deny these claims, but I got the same impression
@@BensonOfD Honestly very doubtful. The Chinese government actually really looks down on chess in favour of xiangqi and even banned it in the 70s.
9:00 Gukesh : Nah Id Win
Imagine he's playing bad on purpose
Why did you delete the first time you uploaded the video?
UA-cam had some problems with the first one!
@@TheCheckmateCorner ok btw I absolutely loved your video about nepo vs ding i think i watched it like 4 or 5 times now. Can you make a video about hikaru or another world championship?
I'm hoping for his comeback although I m gukesh fan
Ding about to defend his title with a sub 2500 rating.
Burnout... Its a real thing
Cash moves everything around me
Ding get the money
Dala dala bill yooo