Making Versailles Planters from Accoya using Festool Domino
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
- In this episode I am building some Versailles planters from a Mixture of Accoya and Tricoya Timber. The Tricoya is a sheet product version of the Accoya timber and can be used in unconventional ways as seen in this video, things you wouldn't do with any other timber or panel product, but due to its dimensional stability, it is possible to use these products in this way. I made 4 small planters in total, they were made to the same external dimensions as the ones I was replacing, but using the same timber sizes as a batch of bigger planters that the customer already has.
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The gardener in me says that this is more of a modified Versaille box as the real ones each side panel is generally removable. This allows the gardener access to the roots on all sides of the box once the tree planted within is established and large. The roots are pruned to keep it healthy and to avoid it becoming root bound inside the box. The woodworker in me is envious of your shop and I picked up quite a few tips and tricks watching you break the build into repeatable steps. Thanks for the entertainment! Will subscribe
Thanks Denis, i didnt know that, i will look into how the panels remove.. neat idea. Although i imagine a bit of a pain of a job to reinsert after working on the plant
You are very skilled! I felt like I was watching a mini masterclass in joinery. Well done.
Thankyou pauline, thats the idea 😃
You have some very nice “toys” to work with there! Very nice artistry in my opinion.
Thankyou very much Ted
Love watching this channel top class joinery just wished I had that shop and that machinery
When you have a 100 grand workshop, the world is your lobster.
Nice work
Haha, still need to learn the techniques and working practices. anyone ould have the machinery but how to do the job properly and use it needs learning.
I have a £2000 workshop and build them just as good. Not the machinery more the skill and precision that makes the build, even with hand tools!
Been thinking of making some of these myself and have watched a lot of video's on making them but can't say I was that impressed but this is the way I thought how I would build them. These are by far the best ones I've seen. Love the idea of using the table saw to put the V grooves in. Unfortunately I don't have a spindal moulder so a router will have to do and dowels instead of domino's. Lovely job.
Cheers Richard. I assume you know these are made from EXtreme MDF not normal MDF.
@@BradshawJoinery Yes, I know what ordinary MDF and moisture are like.
Ha ha! Just noticed the extraction controller for the CC, very clever!
Haha, you mean the extended vent controll system. 🤣🤣 It's actually incredibly handy and I use it all the time
@@BradshawJoinery Yeah, It's brilliant!
Really enjoyed what you covered
Looking fwd to more -
Great workshop set up -
Good vid -
Lovely dog 😃
Many thanks
Thanks Gary, I appreciate it. "Spot" the dog says thankyou!
Awesome
Thanks Keith!!
Lovely work
Thanks :)
Good job 👏🏻
Thanks
Lovely job, good to watch you work. ..Yeah Sub'd for the quality.
Brilliant, Thankyou Bob
Nice job !!!!
Thank you! Cheers!
I see a primer coat , where’s the drench anti fungasidle coat pre-end grain ? Love your shop! The products you make are great and a typical example of a food general joinery partitioning .
Cheers Robert, I've used the anti fungacidal stain before when doing sikkens, not always, it doesn't make much difference I've found on Accoya. This was back when I used morrells paint and I don't think they do a pre stain to the primer. I always cost the end grains before gluing joints and before primer. All 3mm rad corners and v groove sealant on internal corners. Takes forever 🤣
I really enjoy this - a thorough coverage of all the steps and techniques without the fluff. I worry that the screws on the finials/balls would bend to a knock. What about dowels?
Thanks Jonathan! I didn't think of using dowells tbh! What a brilliant idea!
@@BradshawJoinery Too kind. Good fortune to you. 😉
Hi, great video and loving the channel. Are there plans available for the planters?
no i dont have undortunately.
Thank you for the reply, much appreciated. Shame, however, I'm going to give it a go using you tutorial. This will be my first woodwork project, and will drop you an update one I have completed it. Once again thanks for all the extremely helpful information and videos.
Best Stephen.
very impressed, lovely job. Out of interest, how many hours work was condensed into this video? I know you have some great time saving tools, but there was clearly still a lot of spent on these.
A lot. They are quite labour intensive like most hand made items. I cannot remember exactly but i think i made 12 of these and took about 3 weeks from raw materials to fully finished with metal bases inside.
Nice job. Which brand of end grain sealer do you use?
I like the sikkens ones the best of all.
Which model is that Watkins radial saw? It cuts so smoothly.
Wadkins CC, they are usually a little run down but very cheap because they take up alot of room behind them
Beautiful job!! You seem to use an awful lot of Accoya which I understand is chemically modified Radiata pine. I've used hundreds of board feet of Radiata but I am cuious to know how the treatmant affects the wood. I know it makes it more resistant to weather etc but how does it affect its workability?
Hi David, thankyou, the accoya is just like very very dry version of radiata pine. It's quite brilttle and duntonthe processes there can be shakes/splitting within the timber, but imo the durability of the finished product is worth these side effects!
@@BradshawJoinery So good for exterior doors and garden woodwork. Love your videos, you certainly have some skills and some kit - Keep the videos coming.
Excellent vids great work, what is the tubed adhesive you use please?
Thanks Buddy. I use a polyurethane glue (PU) I get mine from sovereign Chemicals, they sell it on the website but is about half the price from a rep. 👍
Hi with the hanging hooks , once you remove do you need to fill and respray? Ok just watched, if you don't have feature on top that is :)
if they didnt have a feature top, maybe a batten across inside and then hand paint that part in afterwards.... where it isnt seen below soil line
Otherwise turn upside down and have the hooks in the bottom. 👍
@@BradshawJoinery sry batted ?
Sorry Sean, edited, I meant to say batten
@@BradshawJoinery perfect thought so :)
Wow, as someone who has made
Planters for home and also worked with acoya and I take it the mdf is tricoyya mdf, what do you charge for these, seriously curious, as I don't think 200 a planter comes close, the materials alone are all the most expensive around for external, long life span. Great work,
I cannot remeber but not cheap. However, if you saw the location/garden they are pittance for the durability and maintenance free aspect. Really Posh gaff! haha
There are obviously various methods of making a planter but with all the thousands of pounds worth of equipment available it is still time consuming.
Any fears on the dado being so close to the mortise?
Not in accoya/tricoya. They are quite delicate things, very. Solid when assembled but it has the advantage with using the above timbers that everything can be glued together rather than allowing for movement!
Great work, what do you use for a lining?
Use a flexible foam liner (underlay)around the sides then use dpm plastic folded into the corners. These had holes in the bottom with a stainless sheet that had the holes in it. The foam just allows some expansion to prevent freezing from popping the planters at the joints.
What were all the paints & sealers used?
Morrells Omnia on this one and sikkens sealants
What is the coating that you were putting on the balls and ends of the planters?
Its a End grain sealer for use before paint. it stops absorption of moisture/uptake of moisture through the end grain of the timber as the paints are opaque/micro porous, it is a susceptible area for water ingress, leading to coating failure. the sealant in the gun is a v groove sealant, same principle, but allows a degree of flexibility at joints while maintaining the performance of the coating.
Great Job. Love the videos. Just curious what the top coat was. Also I know you like to use waterborne products and I was wondering if you used solvent based before and if so was there any pros and cons between them. I am thinking of switching to only waterborne. I have sprayed solvent my entire life and I am a little nervous to switch over.
HI Jason, the topcoat is sikkens wf380 or 381, i cannot remeber if gloss or satin. Solvent is deffo easier to work with in most situations. You use less paint, quicker drying and easier sanding and is cheaper to buy. However,, waterbased has its place for exterior woodwork i think, and wouldnt be putting solvent based outside, got to be careful of application conditions too. If you have a good syste/setup id stick with it, and try new stuff on jobs where you can. There is a spraying makes sense group on FB if your doing site spraying thats good for that thing,
What kind of wood is the wood balls? And where did you get them?
Birch i think from amazon or ebay!
1:56 ain't good, be careful. great vids, thanks
Agreed, but the camera angle is bad, my arm wouldn't have been inline with the cut 👍
Cheers matey 😊
What is the panel material? And is it waterproof?
Hi Troy Queen, the material is called Tricoya, it's an extreme MDF and yes it's incredibly durable. I've had a test piece outside for over 4 years now and it's still perfect. Art from being green with algea.
Accoya is the lumber you are using correct?
Correct 👍
@@BradshawJoinery thanks 😊
If it's no bother to ya,
How do you like it?
Is it fairly stable?
Is the lumber relatively true or does it come fairly warped/cupped/bowed/twisted?
I was thinking about using it in the near future and was just wondering your experience with it.
Hi. How are those dominos holding up? Joints still strong?
They are absolutely perfect! They were accoya dominoes though!
@@BradshawJoinery
Cool. I use the same hardwood dominos for whatever the project. Made a few casements and seem to be good. I groove the dominos so glue adheres better.
I will add though, the strength of these boxes.probably comes from the Tricoya being glued/sealed into the frames. There isn't much pressure on the dominos. But I think they would be fine none the less
a lot of work i hope the price was right
Cheers, Yeah i got a decent wage and the customer had a cost effective solution! win win
what glue do you use?
I'm using a PU glue from sovereign Chemicals called PU Rapid
Damn.. take off these gloves!
Thanks bud, it's not H&S to wear gloves I know, but I've actually seen a several injuries from guys not wearing gloves and slipping. I'm Very conscious of the fact I am wearing them and aware of what can happen. I should say I don't advise for people to wear them.
@@BradshawJoinery what kind of injuries? finger bleeding or maybe cutting off a finger or a hand?
Wearing a wedeng ring or some kind of rings are dangerous too, blade can cut your skin, but when it hits the ring...
@1.12. Extremely dangerous! That is not how to use a planer guard. Raise the guard just slightly above height of timber, slide it across to touch the fence, and pass the timber under the guard. Great work otherwise.
I'm not a fan of raising the blade guard. Quite often you see more of the blade than if it's just pushed up to the edge of the timber at bed height. Saying that you should never push the timber straight through like I did but I was struggling to get alongside the planer with the camera and tripod in the way. Thanks for watching buddy 👍😊
@@BradshawJoinery
The way you pushed it through made me very nervous just thinking about it. Try and develop push blocks that work for you. One slip and it could be a disaster.
We all make mistakes it is just good to make mistakes on none dangerous things. Your product is really good by the way.