The fact that Huey went from "Skull face killed her and put her in the pod." To "Skull face killed her and I put her in the pod." To "Strangelove killed herself after shutting herself in the pod." In the span of under a minute is insane. Huey is good for nothing, not even lying.
I just love how Ocelot gets progressively more and more pissed off as he pulls apart Huey's bullshit in these tapes. Most of the time Ocelot's the one that has to be the cooler head when Miller starts getting worked up, but by the end of the interrogation you can just tell that he's just as eager as Miller to blow Huey's head off. It really says something about how utterly despicable Huey is when someone as unscrupulous as Ocelot is disgusted by him.
+CegeRoles Off topic, but I sort of feel like this game is representative of Ocelot's true personality. All of the other games, he's essentially playing a role in order to keep his cover in tact. But I feel like when he's on Mother Base and with Kaz/Venom Snake, he is more or less showing who he really is and how he truly behaves once the facade is off. I notice that he's not nearly as brutal and is generally more understanding of others than he is in previous games.
+IcedEarth426 Ocelot is and always will be a great big silly weirdo. He's abnormally relaxed in this game, being a flat character with the only thing reminding us if him being his silly outfit. I'm not sure if it was meant to show us that Ocelot is actually a more laid back person, or that Kojima just had to give in to Konami budget pressure resulting in a stinted character.
+IcedEarth426 Kinda weird seeing Ocelot, of all people, be the heart of the group. In every other game, as you mentioned, he's a cold tactician who's doing his job but here, he's sparing Quite's life, raising a giant wolf/dog, and getting pissed off at Huey (which makes sense when you consider his father, the Sorrow, sort of died to save his life). That's quite some character development.
+KNIGHTMAREMANIAC Ocelot is and always has been on Big Boss's side. The character that we saw in MGS1 and 2 were an act, a means to an end. He was never really on Liquid's side, nor was he on Solidus's. I think this more reserved, thoughtful version of Ocelot is for the most part the "true" Ocelot. It would have to be for him to mastermind so much later on in the series.
You know, seeing now just how bad Huey was, it's actually insane how Otacon and Solid Snake ended up not only working together, but also ended up having one of the healthiest relationship in this entire franchise.
You can't hear it if you're using speakers, probably, but the last tape ends with Strangelove's heartbeat getting slower and shallower until it stops and the tape cuts.
Love the part where Venom Snake says, "Lets bring someone else into this conversation..." Then Huey gets all defensive cause he knows he said to much that contradicts what he said.
Shit! Now I know why Otacon and Snake never talk about their fathers much. Because both their fathers were such cold bastards back then, but Otacon's was even worse.
Their families in general are pretty nuts. Strangelove was pretty manipulative (& her obsession with the Boss was pretty weird), Eva was-well, she was Eva, being a spy, carrying the clones. Both were sort of raised for someone else's ends, with Otacon being the one to carry on the Boss' will, Snake being raised a soldier from day one...Heck, everyone in Metal Gear has some pretty crazy history. I love how similar Snake & Otacon are, though, despite being so different. Their friendship is pretty sweet, considering the relationship between their fathers.
Dunno about "worse". BB was still hiding nukes, recruiting child soldiers and erasing his soldier's identity and life so he could turned into his double, did he not?
Emmerich-"I never seen his face." *Sobs* *later* Emmerich-"I said it didn't work!" "He wanted it." Only one question. How the fuck can someone cry over a fabricated lie?!?! That is honestly some disturbing stuff.
study psychopaths, they don't feel genuine emotions but can cry on the spot and lie pathologically. It's not a mental illness but a personality disorder.
He’s so fucked up that he believes in his own lies- or at least wants to believe in the next lie he cooks up so that he can feel comfortable with himself. That’s a trademark of a psychopath.
I love how Ocelot basically says what the ai in MGS2 says to raiden: “We’re not smothering the world, it you.” “The real world doesn’t make you suffer, it’s the other way around.” Ocelot is such a good interrogator that he can tear into a humans psyche like a machine.
@@ZackExplorer28 perhaps he wouldn't regret being responsible for his suicide no longer because of how pathetic and traitorous he really is. Not to mention he murdered Hal's own mother. Hal would probably hate him instead of feeling guilty for him.
He got them when the CIA declassified everything offscreen. It helps that Miller made sure that the tapes survived the destruction of the Mother Base. So in case anyone doesn't know yet, during the events of MGS4 entire world knows what more or less happened Somewhere between MGS2 and 4 the declassification process happened. One of the reasons it happened was to turn Big Boss into an icon Eva talked about.
For the longest, I genuinely thought there might have been a chance Huey was speaking honestly, until he changed his Strangelove story like, four times in the span of three minutes
Huey. All of the psychopaths, terrorists, and malfunctioning A.I.s, and HUEY is the only one in this series that truly scares me. Why? Because I worry about becoming like him. I'm afraid of a lot of things, but one huge thing that I fear is becoming a sniveling coward willing to sell out my friends for my own skin, then play victim when faced with the truth. I worry about hurting people and then lying to myself, saying that I did the right thing, or that this is someone else's fault. It's ironic, really, since I frequently blame myself for things that don't concern me. I've lied about things in my life (who hasn't?), but several things that Huey does (i.e., shifting blame onto others, thinking I'm a victim of someone else, etc.) are things that I've also done. Huey Emmerich and Martin Walker are two video game characters who have made me realize what I can become. And that scares me to death.
I think we're *all* worry about hurting people, but, in the end, it's all down to choice. Even when it feels like we have very few options, that doesn't mean we have no choice at all. That's what I learned the hard way five years ago. And, since then, I've been true to myself and others even when the truth hurts. Whatever happens, it's down to us what we become.
I know what you mean. Heaven forbid I ever be put in a situation where I have to sell out people I care about to save my own skin. Still, if it somehow did come to that, I'd like to think I would at least not delude myself and try to make up for it somehow, rather than avoiding blame and running from my guilt like Huey did. If there's one thing I hope to never do as a person, it's to stop caring about others and how my actions can hurt them.
This is grade a voice acting. You know the Fox engine is notoriously difficult to work with even tho it can be used to make really good cinematics and gameplay, I honestly imagine these were meant to be cutscenes but there wasn't enough time to animate them all.
If he was actually telling the truth about mistaking the "Inspection", he would've felt terrible for what he had done to his comrades and Mother Base. But not once did he do that--he always claims he thought the Inspection was real, as if it was an honest mistake with no casualties. Not to mention that whenever his machines are brought up, he gets all happy and silly like a schoolgirl--as if he has a clear conscience. It just goes to show you that Huey is a selfish liar that he'll do whatever it takes to get resources to build his WMDs. "There's no shortage of scientists out to get famous and patent their work--with morality taking a back seat." He just described himself unintentionally. "I risked my life trying to save you all!" HOW, HUEY!? HOW!? How's building WMDs out of Mother Base "risking your life"!?
I think he was too scared to accept responsibility. After all, HE took the initiative thinking that he was doing MSF a favor. What really irritated me about Huey is that he was trying to be all buddy-buddy with us once again, as if the events in Ground Zeroes never happened.
@@nanoman8 Otacon didn't infect people with mutated parasites with intention of having the parasites being spread around the world via birds and murder his wife in cold blood, so I don't really see how making REX with the intention using it as an ICMB defense system is tantamount to what Huey did.
It's interesting just how many discrepancies and dissonance can be noticed in Huey's words on every re-listen of the tapes and his overall behavior. I mean it's interesting, for someone being "forced" to do research for the soviets, he seemed super proud of his accomplishments, so much so that the soldiers stationed in there can't help but talk about his boastings. That's on top of just how comfy and cozy his lab became, he was allowed a shiny new pair of legs, his wife was brought along and they even managed to have a kid and raise him in that lab, he even gets to continue his research unscathed after his wife hides his child away from him while he left her to die in the pod, for all his "lost" 9 years, he sure gained a lot... Many fans think it's out of character for Huey to become a villiain, but in reality all the red flags are there in Peace Walker, Coldman outs him as a scientific fraud, using research stolen from Granin, then when he joins MSF, he almost instantly proposes building an AI weapon for MSF, that's on top of him insisting to put a nuke on said weapon despite Snake's own reluctance to being trusted with one, anyone repentant for their own actions would have wanted an out as soon as the nuclear threat was done, but not Huey, he always had something to gain, always looking out for himself.
I never understood the point of Huey’s heel turn. It came completely out of nowhere, it had no build up, no reasoning behind it, and it kinda felt forced. I mean to this day I still don’t know why Huey was talking to Cipher before the original Mother Base was destroyed
Huey’s biggest betrayals: Laughing at Big Boss’ belief of Santa, Mother Base, mutating the quarantined men, saying DD is a wolf, now that’s crossing line no one one crosses. No one drives a wedge between a man and his best friend.
+rcroller1972 in any case, it at least makes it so anyone who says that anyone ever loved huey is wrong. Strangelove found her love for Joy to be so great that they could bear a child between life and death. Have you ever had super gay love with a ghost? Strangelove did.
One of the things I love knowing about these tapes is that Christopher Randolph would be stopped during several of his takes and his vocal director would say “Huey isn’t that good of a liar.” Randolph wasn’t even told clearly what was a lie and what was the truth and had to play everything as if it was at least a bit of a lie. Idk, something about Randolph’s acting here is just really interesting to listen to and think about the recording of it
Personally, he should’ve just came out and accepted accountability and responsibility for it to begin with. Hell even Skull face found himself disgusted by Huey
Then again, Huey was so caught up in his own lies he started to believe them. It’s all well and good saying what you would’ve done, but you forget that the man had been living a lie from 9 years. You would believe yourself too if it were that long
Timeline of the Metal Gear Game Franchise: 1964 - Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 1970 - Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops 1974 - Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker 1975 - Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes 1984 - Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain 1995 - Metal Gear 1999 - Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake 2005 - Metal Gear Solid 2007 to 2009: Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty 2014 - Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots 2015 - Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance
What is interesting about Huey is that he sounds earnest at times. Perhaps because he lies to himself all the time and believe his own lies. A true hypocrite. A horrible sin, yet probably the most humane one which we all can relate to at some points in our lives. Most of us won't be Snake, Miller, or Ocelot, but any of us could slip and descend into Huey.
Say what you want this game’s voice acting was perfect, the vc for Huey somehow manages to capture a desperate, insane man who’s making up lies on the spot, Ocelot’s vc manages to capture a ruthless torturer who’s experienced with interrogation and is constantly picking apart Huey’s lies, Miller manages to capture a bitter, scarred man who has lost more than anyone else.
Much as I do want to say that Ocelot seemed kinda 'flat' compared to how he is before and after this, I also feel like this is a rare case of him not having to put on something of a front. He's being in a sense a 'strait man', even though when I recall how he's been, his calm nature isn't entirely unheard of. In Every other MG title he's been in, he's had moments of calmness, even under some extent of stress. I want to call it 'bad writing' but stab me in the back to say, I find it very very fascinating on the other hand. I find it very interesting to see a person whom typically is a hoot to watch with, be it his eagerness in a gunfight, or to torture people or really anything. Say what you want about the twin snakes, I got a good laugh over him both breaking the fourth wall ('...there are no continues my friend...Don't even think about using autofire, or I'll know!!") and his little accident with dropping his gun (or in both the original and Gamecube take on him loosing his hand), Ocelot is someone that in some vein I loved to hate given how he managed to get away with so much of what he did. It's odd and yet I'm ... I'm okay with how he was in 5. It's like he was there and trying to be the 'strait man' compared to everybody else. The one to be calm because lets face it, almost everybody else to an extent is even more off-their rocker for understandable reasons. Be it Venom snake for loosing his arm, shrapnel in his head and imbeded flesh inside him from another person. Or Kaz with a missing arm, foot, and potential eye damage. Then there's the MSF survivors whom are understandably not quite gotten past what happened in 1975, and so on. There has to be at least one 'sane' person even if Ocelot's own sanity is questionable as well. It's strange to see him so god-damn calm but I welcome it as well. It's like it's the ONE time we see him as... 'normal'. It's like in some twisted sense he's most 'comfortable' in this situation compared to everywhere else in which he's putting up to some extent a facade to some goal that's not clear right away, but in time it's revealed. I like it. That's my rambling opinion anyway.
I don’t mind it, but it would’ve made for a more entertaining watch if Kojima added a flair of unpredictability to him. I wish his lines were also delivered with more charisma as well, as he’s quite boring on screen. Ocelot is meant to be an entertaining character, but he just puts me to sleep in this game. Say what you will about MGS4, but in my opinion Liquid Ocelot was the best damn part about that game
It's like classroom or work social systems. If the clown or the comedian of the group transfers or is out of the game, someone else.. Hell even the quietest person in the room will step up
Because for the first time, he is actually working for the man he admired, Big Boss, or at least as far as he made believe to himself through hypnosis. Only In this game he is not a spy for anyone...
I wanted to comment on Huey's supposed dramatic shift in personality. I saw it as more of a slow burn. Through out his life he had this idea that he could blame others for his unfortunate circumstances. His deformity of his spine which took his ability to walk was the result of his father's work on the atom bomb. His plagiarized work was justifiable in his mind because of the pressure he felt. Trying to use his own son as a test subject for a weapon. His obsession with Strangelove which eventually led to her murder by his hand. I'm sure he rationalized everything he did like all psychopaths do. I'm leaving out a lot but if you look at his life and the way he omits certain facts and tries to play the victim its clear he's unhinged. It was slowly building towards this.
+Isaac Chaudhry You're correct, and the other comments are true, but wrong in that they deny the other truth. Ocelot is the child of the boss and the sorrow by biology, but Otacon is also the son of the boss, the child of strangelove and the boss.
The AngelAJPwny Strangelove WAS close to The Boss, that so called egg that she mentioned before her death, if you look at guns of the patriots with sunny emmerich, That was the chekov's gun to REALLY carrying The Boss 's will. Ocelot was probably watching over Otacon the whole time to see if he would find a way to end the patriots that zero established, from the days of phantom pain, along with the testing of the sons of big boss. kojima predicted it even before this was made.
In all honesty, even if Chico didn’t reveal the location of Mother base, I mean, when you look at it from a certain point of view, Huey has just as much blame as Chico because he let them come and attack Mother base. I mean, he should’ve known better than accept a “preliminary” inspection when said inspection was a ruse for Skull and XOF to attack and destroy mother base. But he let them come anyways. So looking at it like, you can say that Huey was essentially responsible for what happened to mother base, especially seeing as how nine years later, he’s the one who is easier to blame since he didn’t lose anything out of compared to say, Miller, because Miller didn’t just lose mother base, he lost an arm and a leg too
You know, it's really sad to see Huey become a villain. I liked him a lot in Peace Walker. And I was the one who understood and supported Huey when he wanted the inspection to happen (But make no mistake, I hated the fact that he sent the letter without consulting with Kaz and Big Boss). He actually looked like a victim to me in Phantom Pain initially and I thought he was just a victim and hoped that Huey proves that he was a good guy. However, after knowing that he killed Strangelove and risked the life of Otacon, it disgusted me and wished someone kill Huey. Even when Venom spared Huey, he still had the balls to say that Snake should have been the one in that life raft. I am glad he died and made me like Otacon even more
Huey lied about so many things, but he couldn't lie about how great he thought his invention was. Huey had this pitiful woe is me tone every time he tried to explain his way out of Kaz and Ocelot's questions, but when he talked about Sahelanthropus, there was a tone of pride, especially in the "history of mankind" and "bipedal" part of the tape. Huey only cared about his inventions and didn't really care whether the Metal Gear brought drastic consequences and his actions brought to his friends.
29:34 Huey had me chuckling on this one, I also was like, "Umm that's a wolf, but whatever" when he named him D Dog at the beginning of the game. The best part though was DD was in the chopper as well and barked during this part.
Actaully Solid Snake is the living embodiment of The Boss's will. It was Solid Snake that influenced and inspired Otacon to be who he was later on. Solid Snake and Otacon then becane two sides of the same coin
4:50 "Hunched-over bipedal waddling?" Huey, do you NOT remember how ZEKE moved around when Snake fought it? In case you've forgotten, Paz had that thing jumping like it was on the moon!
At first, I thought of Huey Emmerich as a father. Looking at Sons Of Liberty before I played The Phantom Pain story, I wondered why she was complaining of her father that almost drowned her. But now I understood. Huey is a murderous, lier, stealer of the lives in the Quarantine Facility, even bringing down the Venom Boss, who didn't realise he was talking to the Fake Venom Snake. If I was Big Boss, I would've shot him, but doing this would cause a time paradox, similar to Ocelot from MGS3: Snake Eater. Preventing the situation of almost drowning Emma is one of them. At least R&D can use Huey's work to their use.
Metal Gear Solid 4 elaborated on what MGS2 mentioned about the bastard in that he did attempt to kill her too. But instead drowned himself. A very pathetic, fitting demise for Huey if ya ask me.
7:59 As much as of a lying bastard Huey is (nor I am trying to make look like a good person or defend him, I mean just because someone's a terrible person doesn't mean they can't be right about something) for once he's actually telling the truth there he was genuinely baffled how skull face managed to get the Sahelanthropus to work without a human pilot or AI even he had no idea that a psychic named psycho mantis was controlling it.
he also told the truth that Sahelanthropus was just a paper tiger. it is indeed COMPLETELY useless without Psycho Mantis, once Venom Snake destroyed it in Kingdom of the Flies, it was scrapped for good before Metal Gear 1.
That was one of the reasons I wanted him out. 1. He harassed Big Boss and Miller into allowing the inspection 2. He sealed Strangelove in the Boss AI 3. Tried to change the subject of covering his ass to Big Boss 4. Helped the whiney little sh!t Eli repair Sahelanthropus 5. F**ker may have done or said something to Paz
What the actual hell happened to Huey? Was he secretly this much of a bastard back when I rescued him in PW? What the hell happened in the many years between PW and... THIS disgrace?
ES21007 basically became the proverbial mad scientist. He used his kid for demoing sehelanthropus, and killed Strangelove for trying to protect their child. He had fun with all of the unlimited technology at his fingertips, and became drunk with power, until big boss snatched his ass out of there.
Because the left is usually delusional, embracing ideals like equality, control etc even though they have no base in reality, so when reality shatter their delusions they don't open their eyes. They lie, even to themselves, so they will not shatter their narrative, until they reach a meltdown or their heads. Proof? See Anti Trump supports behavior, lying, hitting and swearing at people that practice reality.
+Darkmasterxx ??? Why are you spewing this weird political jargon? Have you never heard the expression "out of left field"? Also I'm pretty sure Huey isn't a monster because he is a left wing liberal.
This is actually a very good question. I mean, in Peace Walker he did a wrong thing or two, but his heart was in the right place. Now, it just feels like he cares more about his ambition/reputation rather than the motive of not letting nukes get fired ever again.
Whoa dude you figured it out. Today Bernie Sanders said he was going to unleash ethnic cleaning parasites on Washington D.C. And lock his wife I robot. How'd you see that coming!
I seriously have to ask why he made Sahelanthropus so powerful and not the bare minimum to meet skull face's standards. Or make it look strong but have a crippling weakness.
Why wouldn't he? He knew what he was doing, and he loved every second of it. He's like Walter White from Breaking Bad; he makes constant excuses, maybe even starts to believe it. But beneath it all, he does it all because he wants to.
Sahelanthropus isn't powerful tho; it doesn't work at all. It's an absurdly overambitious design that was never going to function properly with the tech limitations of the era. The only reason it ever moves at all is that a telekinetic kid plays with it like a puppet.
Honestly it probably was the bare minimum, the thing didn't work and could barely be called a Metal Gear. It had to be puppeted around by a psychic to be a threat. Even Huey didn't know how it was seemingly operational when he first saw it drop in, because it actually was impossible.
Huey thinking that the inspection being real is probably the only true thing about this. He's the kind of guy desperate to justify his own actions to others, and lie about the bad ones to prop himself up. He probably did want to make MSF seem justified in the eyes of the world and tried to take the initiative for that when he thought everyone else was being unreasonable about something that would help them. Every single one of his actions are driven by self-preservation and cowardice. Rather than go the long way around of sticking with his comrades, he hoped to prove them wrong in an action that turned out fatal for everyone, and he forgets others lost things too. He did lose a lot, but his cowardly nature meant he lost a lot less.
31:16 Really subtly fucked up connection. The static/disturbance sounds at the start of this tape? They're the same sound effects used in Viola's death message in Zone of the Enders, one of Kojima's other games.
These tapes are so uncomfortable they're awesome. I can totally see myself acting like Huey if I was in his position, caught guilty and trying to come up with excuses. Fantastic voice acting by all.
Strangelove is so fucking weird. It's no wonder they called her, "Strange love". She has like a fucking hard-on for the Boss, who was already into the Sorrow.
+Tom3744 At the very least his mom had something of a moral ground (shown when she was torturing Big Boss) and genuinely loved him. But yeah she was pretty fucked up, just not to the extent of his father.
+Ricardo Quezada nowhere near the extent to his father. His mother may have some flaws in her right, but she genuinely loved him deeply and protected him from his appalling father, she hoped great things for Hal, and it helped influence the boss's wisdom. Hal truly possesses the boss's will, I'd say he does even more so than most if not "any" other character in the metal gear solid franchise
I love that even tho they "reconed" Dr Clark into Paramedic, they still call Dr Clark a "He" @14:18 Its possible that since she is a patriot, she decided to lie about her genders as Dr Clark. Man I love MGS
Miller or Ocelot comments in one of the tapes that they don't know for certain if "Dr. Clark" is really even a "he" because there's no info or leads on that person to be found anywhere
that was already confirmed in the MGS4 Database, Paramedic was so secretive that no one even knew her Gender as Dr. Clark, so everyone just defaulted to "he". just like in MGS2, no one knew the gender of Olga's child so Solid Snake said "Don't Worry, I'll find HIM", then MGS4 revealed that Sunny was Olga's Daughter.
Is Otacon aware of The Boss' meme? I don't recall he is, and I thought it's amazing that he became the inheritor to The Boss' will completely on account of his own decisions, without anyone else's input or pressure.
i like that huey is a pathological liar without even realising it. it just is his natural defensive mechaninism so he doesnt even realise hes doing it. its clear hes not a psychopath just a person with an incredibley flawed mindset.
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The fact that Huey went from
"Skull face killed her and put her in the pod."
To
"Skull face killed her and I put her in the pod."
To
"Strangelove killed herself after shutting herself in the pod."
In the span of under a minute is insane.
Huey is good for nothing, not even lying.
Out of everything he's accused of, there's no defense for murdering his own wife.
"D.Dog is a wolf!"
that's a biggest plot twist in Metal Gear Solid
It's a dog, a dog!
That’s it, Huey! You’re going to that raft! You’re gone!
Aye aye did you just insult my dog, my homie? You can kill my men and take my metal gear but never insult DD. Men, fire at will haha
Impossible
I just love how Ocelot gets progressively more and more pissed off as he pulls apart Huey's bullshit in these tapes. Most of the time Ocelot's the one that has to be the cooler head when Miller starts getting worked up, but by the end of the interrogation you can just tell that he's just as eager as Miller to blow Huey's head off. It really says something about how utterly despicable Huey is when someone as unscrupulous as Ocelot is disgusted by him.
+CegeRoles Off topic, but I sort of feel like this game is representative of Ocelot's true personality. All of the other games, he's essentially playing a role in order to keep his cover in tact. But I feel like when he's on Mother Base and with Kaz/Venom Snake, he is more or less showing who he really is and how he truly behaves once the facade is off. I notice that he's not nearly as brutal and is generally more understanding of others than he is in previous games.
+CegeRoles Hell even Skull Face is disgusted by him.
+IcedEarth426 Ocelot is and always will be a great big silly weirdo. He's abnormally relaxed in this game, being a flat character with the only thing reminding us if him being his silly outfit. I'm not sure if it was meant to show us that Ocelot is actually a more laid back person, or that Kojima just had to give in to Konami budget pressure resulting in a stinted character.
+IcedEarth426 Kinda weird seeing Ocelot, of all people, be the heart of the group. In every other game, as you mentioned, he's a cold tactician who's doing his job but here, he's sparing Quite's life, raising a giant wolf/dog, and getting pissed off at Huey (which makes sense when you consider his father, the Sorrow, sort of died to save his life). That's quite some character development.
+KNIGHTMAREMANIAC Ocelot is and always has been on Big Boss's side. The character that we saw in MGS1 and 2 were an act, a means to an end. He was never really on Liquid's side, nor was he on Solidus's. I think this more reserved, thoughtful version of Ocelot is for the most part the "true" Ocelot. It would have to be for him to mastermind so much later on in the series.
i really wanted to believe huey in the beginning.
me too man
That makes two of us. But he was trying to fool his way out. That's inexcusable. :(
He played us like a damn fiddle!
Me too
Gren Wren What?
You know, seeing now just how bad Huey was, it's actually insane how Otacon and Solid Snake ended up not only working together, but also ended up having one of the healthiest relationship in this entire franchise.
Snake and Hal get married and raise a daughter (epic win)
Yeah - the difference is so night and day that Shadow Moses felt like a blessing for both Hal and Solid Snake
You can't hear it if you're using speakers, probably, but the last tape ends with Strangelove's heartbeat getting slower and shallower until it stops and the tape cuts.
Damn.... That's sad.
Philosiraptor Jr those last tapes killed me on the inside
How to play this mission , can u explain , whether i have to hear all the tape .
@@balasubramanian8225 just play the game and you’ll unlock the tape..its called “Ai pod final recording”
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I think ocelot's voice is pretty good
+Juan Armando Puente Elizondo P-pretty good?
*Finger guns*
+The AngelAJPwny finger guns pointing and PRETTY GOOD...
I like his voice. Just a shame he doesn’t have much action in the game.
Troy Baker. He’s awesome.
Love the part where Venom Snake says, "Lets bring someone else into this conversation..." Then Huey gets all defensive cause he knows he said to much that contradicts what he said.
Shit! Now I know why Otacon and Snake never talk about their fathers much. Because both their fathers were such cold bastards back then, but Otacon's was even worse.
Their families in general are pretty nuts. Strangelove was pretty manipulative (& her obsession with the Boss was pretty weird), Eva was-well, she was Eva, being a spy, carrying the clones. Both were sort of raised for someone else's ends, with Otacon being the one to carry on the Boss' will, Snake being raised a soldier from day one...Heck, everyone in Metal Gear has some pretty crazy history. I love how similar Snake & Otacon are, though, despite being so different. Their friendship is pretty sweet, considering the relationship between their fathers.
well' atleast snake's dad said sorry in the end. and he's a legendary badass. that's something to talk about.
Dunno about "worse". BB was still hiding nukes, recruiting child soldiers and erasing his soldier's identity and life so he could turned into his double, did he not?
@@Aivottaja he at least has some code of ethics, while Huey betrays everyone, even himself and his family, BB is at least loyal to his men
Ture
Emmerich-"I never seen his face." *Sobs*
*later*
Emmerich-"I said it didn't work!" "He wanted it."
Only one question. How the fuck can someone cry over a fabricated lie?!?! That is honestly some disturbing stuff.
He probably had some kind of mental illness that they never had time to explore due to time constraints.
study psychopaths, they don't feel genuine emotions but can cry on the spot and lie pathologically.
It's not a mental illness but a personality disorder.
Or it was meant to be left for interpretation.
S3NDP13 it’s amazing the things you’ll do to survive
He’s so fucked up that he believes in his own lies- or at least wants to believe in the next lie he cooks up so that he can feel comfortable with himself. That’s a trademark of a psychopath.
I love how Ocelot basically says what the ai in MGS2 says to raiden:
“We’re not smothering the world, it you.”
“The real world doesn’t make you suffer, it’s the other way around.”
Ocelot is such a good interrogator that he can tear into a humans psyche like a machine.
Imagine if Big Boss gave Hal these tapes of his father.
i have to wonder what he would think of his father now?
@@ZackExplorer28 perhaps he wouldn't regret being responsible for his suicide no longer because of how pathetic and traitorous he really is. Not to mention he murdered Hal's own mother. Hal would probably hate him instead of feeling guilty for him.
Don't put that evil on Hal! He's a good boy.
@@skumomcbee1255 At least Hal became a better man then his father.
He got them when the CIA declassified everything offscreen. It helps that Miller made sure that the tapes survived the destruction of the Mother Base.
So in case anyone doesn't know yet, during the events of MGS4 entire world knows what more or less happened
Somewhere between MGS2 and 4 the declassification process happened.
One of the reasons it happened was to turn Big Boss into an icon Eva talked about.
For the longest, I genuinely thought there might have been a chance Huey was speaking honestly, until he changed his Strangelove story like, four times in the span of three minutes
Huey. All of the psychopaths, terrorists, and malfunctioning A.I.s, and HUEY is the only one in this series that truly scares me. Why? Because I worry about becoming like him. I'm afraid of a lot of things, but one huge thing that I fear is becoming a sniveling coward willing to sell out my friends for my own skin, then play victim when faced with the truth. I worry about hurting people and then lying to myself, saying that I did the right thing, or that this is someone else's fault. It's ironic, really, since I frequently blame myself for things that don't concern me. I've lied about things in my life (who hasn't?), but several things that Huey does (i.e., shifting blame onto others, thinking I'm a victim of someone else, etc.) are things that I've also done. Huey Emmerich and Martin Walker are two video game characters who have made me realize what I can become. And that scares me to death.
I think we're *all* worry about hurting people, but, in the end, it's all down to choice. Even when it feels like we have very few options, that doesn't mean we have no choice at all. That's what I learned the hard way five years ago. And, since then, I've been true to myself and others even when the truth hurts. Whatever happens, it's down to us what we become.
The fact that you are aware of this means that your chances for actually becoming it diminish. Keep on the right path, man.
I know what you mean. Heaven forbid I ever be put in a situation where I have to sell out people I care about to save my own skin. Still, if it somehow did come to that, I'd like to think I would at least not delude myself and try to make up for it somehow, rather than avoiding blame and running from my guilt like Huey did. If there's one thing I hope to never do as a person, it's to stop caring about others and how my actions can hurt them.
Huey is a such a beta male bruhh
This is grade a voice acting. You know the Fox engine is notoriously difficult to work with even tho it can be used to make really good cinematics and gameplay, I honestly imagine these were meant to be cutscenes but there wasn't enough time to animate them all.
I don’t think so, Peace Walker already had this structure, and it makes sense with the game’s design
Just remove Huey's cry and it becomes A+ for me.
If he was actually telling the truth about mistaking the "Inspection", he would've felt terrible for what he had done to his comrades and Mother Base. But not once did he do that--he always claims he thought the Inspection was real, as if it was an honest mistake with no casualties. Not to mention that whenever his machines are brought up, he gets all happy and silly like a schoolgirl--as if he has a clear conscience. It just goes to show you that Huey is a selfish liar that he'll do whatever it takes to get resources to build his WMDs.
"There's no shortage of scientists out to get famous and patent their work--with morality taking a back seat." He just described himself unintentionally.
"I risked my life trying to save you all!" HOW, HUEY!? HOW!? How's building WMDs out of Mother Base "risking your life"!?
I think he was too scared to accept responsibility. After all, HE took the initiative thinking that he was doing MSF a favor. What really irritated me about Huey is that he was trying to be all buddy-buddy with us once again, as if the events in Ground Zeroes never happened.
20:30
Progression of lies.
I worked alone -> I worked with Strangeglove -> Skullface killed Strangeglove -> Strangeglove killed herself
Fucking ugly damn
I couldn't imagine what Hal would think if he received those tapes.
probably boiling with disappointment and hate.
@@shadowboy2818 And become more proud of the kind of man he is compared to his father.
He already think he is worst than huey because he made rex and commit incest
@@nanoman8 Otacon didn't infect people with mutated parasites with intention of having the parasites being spread around the world via birds and murder his wife in cold blood, so I don't really see how making REX with the intention using it as an ICMB defense system is tantamount to what Huey did.
as much as huey was a backstabber in denial, he was right about everyone in msf being damn lonely.
It's interesting just how many discrepancies and dissonance can be noticed in Huey's words on every re-listen of the tapes and his overall behavior.
I mean it's interesting, for someone being "forced" to do research for the soviets, he seemed super proud of his accomplishments, so much so that the soldiers stationed in there can't help but talk about his boastings.
That's on top of just how comfy and cozy his lab became, he was allowed a shiny new pair of legs, his wife was brought along and they even managed to have a kid and raise him in that lab, he even gets to continue his research unscathed after his wife hides his child away from him while he left her to die in the pod, for all his "lost" 9 years, he sure gained a lot...
Many fans think it's out of character for Huey to become a villiain, but in reality all the red flags are there in Peace Walker, Coldman outs him as a scientific fraud, using research stolen from Granin, then when he joins MSF, he almost instantly proposes building an AI weapon for MSF, that's on top of him insisting to put a nuke on said weapon despite Snake's own reluctance to being trusted with one, anyone repentant for their own actions would have wanted an out as soon as the nuclear threat was done, but not Huey, he always had something to gain, always looking out for himself.
Does seem like an odd coincidence that Huey had a lot more to gain out of it, when everyone ended up losing something
I never understood the point of Huey’s heel turn. It came completely out of nowhere, it had no build up, no reasoning behind it, and it kinda felt forced. I mean to this day I still don’t know why Huey was talking to Cipher before the original Mother Base was destroyed
Not to mention in one of the codec calls in PW, Amanda has questioned whether they can really trust Huey.
@@S3NDP13 You forgot about how he laughed at Big Boss's belief in Santa Claus. That should have been a red alert from day one.
@@kyleshea384 True. How could I forget...
Huey’s biggest betrayals: Laughing at Big Boss’ belief of Santa, Mother Base, mutating the quarantined men, saying DD is a wolf, now that’s crossing line no one one crosses. No one drives a wedge between a man and his best friend.
So Strangelove never did love Huey, she just used him to have a child that she could see as her and the Boss', damn that's sad.😯
+Snot Nose Can't argue with that, in the end he was still a murderer.
+rcroller1972 in any case, it at least makes it so anyone who says that anyone ever loved huey is wrong. Strangelove found her love for Joy to be so great that they could bear a child between life and death. Have you ever had super gay love with a ghost? Strangelove did.
+rcroller1972 In which tape was that information? I missed it.
+yutro213 The Final AI Pod recording, Strangelove mentions that she only used Huey to have a child that she could see as her and the Boss .
+rcroller1972 Ah, I will listen again. I completely forgot that part
One of the things I love knowing about these tapes is that Christopher Randolph would be stopped during several of his takes and his vocal director would say “Huey isn’t that good of a liar.”
Randolph wasn’t even told clearly what was a lie and what was the truth and had to play everything as if it was at least a bit of a lie. Idk, something about Randolph’s acting here is just really interesting to listen to and think about the recording of it
Complication of voicing complex character is indeed interesting
when huey's ranting about d-dog is he like lowkey talkin about how he fooled himself into thinking strangelove was straight
My thoughts exactly. He may've been desperate to save himself, but, for Heaven's sake, have a little dignity, Huey. Leave the dog out of this.
Personally, he should’ve just came out and accepted accountability and responsibility for it to begin with. Hell even Skull face found himself disgusted by Huey
Then again, Huey was so caught up in his own lies he started to believe them. It’s all well and good saying what you would’ve done, but you forget that the man had been living a lie from 9 years. You would believe yourself too if it were that long
Timeline of the Metal Gear Game Franchise:
1964 - Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
1970 - Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops
1974 - Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker
1975 - Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
1984 - Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
1995 - Metal Gear
1999 - Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake
2005 - Metal Gear Solid
2007 to 2009: Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
2014 - Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
2015 - Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance
Revengeance is 2018, but everything else is spot on.
No 2018 is Metal Gear: Survive
More like survived by kojima
@@millaz26 Rising is in 2018.
Survive NEVER existed
@@millaz26 Survive is non-canon, it takes place after Ground Zeroes
@@Rob23765 'Just noticed it now
"War and violence can never lead to peace!" The only thing I can say with 100% certainty that Huey didn't lie about.
decoyoctopusra I wanna mention that this was said by the scientist who's goal is to develope the most deadly weapons in history of mankind.
Then what *does* lead to peace? Scheming and treachery?
Actually no, even animals have their own wars. Within the same species too.
It's not just human nature, its in all life.
@@defenestrationismyfavoriteword
Exactly. Living creatures in general are at war with others.
@Stefano Pavone Not for long. In 5 billion years, Earth will be eaten by the Sun.
What is interesting about Huey is that he sounds earnest at times. Perhaps because he lies to himself all the time and believe his own lies. A true hypocrite. A horrible sin, yet probably the most humane one which we all can relate to at some points in our lives. Most of us won't be Snake, Miller, or Ocelot, but any of us could slip and descend into Huey.
Which is why he's the scariest, because he could be any of us
"Of course - just lemme 'check one or two things'"
Something about how sarcastic Ocelot sounds just makes that line for me XD
This is my favorite series of tapes. Love how Huey gets ripped apart verbally by Ocelot
Listening to these tapes makes me glad that Hal never ended up like his dad
The autogenerated captions are amazingly accurate.
you got that right, besides, sahelanthropus becomes "sahel anthropoids" so we get the root
A testament to the clarity of the voice acting
Say what you want this game’s voice acting was perfect, the vc for Huey somehow manages to capture a desperate, insane man who’s making up lies on the spot, Ocelot’s vc manages to capture a ruthless torturer who’s experienced with interrogation and is constantly picking apart Huey’s lies, Miller manages to capture a bitter, scarred man who has lost more than anyone else.
Much as I do want to say that Ocelot seemed kinda 'flat' compared to how he is before and after this, I also feel like this is a rare case of him not having to put on something of a front.
He's being in a sense a 'strait man', even though when I recall how he's been, his calm nature isn't entirely unheard of. In Every other MG title he's been in, he's had moments of calmness, even under some extent of stress.
I want to call it 'bad writing' but stab me in the back to say, I find it very very fascinating on the other hand. I find it very interesting to see a person whom typically is a hoot to watch with, be it his eagerness in a gunfight, or to torture people or really anything.
Say what you want about the twin snakes, I got a good laugh over him both breaking the fourth wall ('...there are no continues my friend...Don't even think about using autofire, or I'll know!!") and his little accident with dropping his gun (or in both the original and Gamecube take on him loosing his hand), Ocelot is someone that in some vein I loved to hate given how he managed to get away with so much of what he did.
It's odd and yet I'm ...
I'm okay with how he was in 5. It's like he was there and trying to be the 'strait man' compared to everybody else. The one to be calm because lets face it, almost everybody else to an extent is even more off-their rocker for understandable reasons. Be it Venom snake for loosing his arm, shrapnel in his head and imbeded flesh inside him from another person. Or Kaz with a missing arm, foot, and potential eye damage.
Then there's the MSF survivors whom are understandably not quite gotten past what happened in 1975, and so on.
There has to be at least one 'sane' person even if Ocelot's own sanity is questionable as well. It's strange to see him so god-damn calm but I welcome it as well. It's like it's the ONE time we see him as... 'normal'.
It's like in some twisted sense he's most 'comfortable' in this situation compared to everywhere else in which he's putting up to some extent a facade to some goal that's not clear right away, but in time it's revealed.
I like it.
That's my rambling opinion anyway.
I don’t mind it, but it would’ve made for a more entertaining watch if Kojima added a flair of unpredictability to him. I wish his lines were also delivered with more charisma as well, as he’s quite boring on screen. Ocelot is meant to be an entertaining character, but he just puts me to sleep in this game. Say what you will about MGS4, but in my opinion Liquid Ocelot was the best damn part about that game
It's like classroom or work social systems. If the clown or the comedian of the group transfers or is out of the game, someone else.. Hell even the quietest person in the room will step up
Because for the first time, he is actually working for the man he admired, Big Boss, or at least as far as he made believe to himself through hypnosis. Only In this game he is not a spy for anyone...
I wanted to comment on Huey's supposed dramatic shift in personality. I saw it as more of a slow burn.
Through out his life he had this idea that he could blame others for his unfortunate circumstances. His deformity of his spine which took his ability to walk was the result of his father's work on the atom bomb. His plagiarized work was justifiable in his mind because of the pressure he felt. Trying to use his own son as a test subject for a weapon. His obsession with Strangelove which eventually led to her murder by his hand. I'm sure he rationalized everything he did like all psychopaths do. I'm leaving out a lot but if you look at his life and the way he omits certain facts and tries to play the victim its clear he's unhinged. It was slowly building towards this.
OTACON IS THE TRUE SON OF THE BOSS
+Isaac Chaudhry actually the son of the boss is Ocelot and his father is The sorrow
actually ocelot is
+Isaac Chaudhry You're correct, and the other comments are true, but wrong in that they deny the other truth. Ocelot is the child of the boss and the sorrow by biology, but Otacon is also the son of the boss, the child of strangelove and the boss.
Sometimes I wonder how Hal would feel about being raised for the sole purpose of carrying on the Boss' will.
The AngelAJPwny Strangelove WAS close to The Boss, that so called egg that she mentioned before her death, if you look at guns of the patriots with sunny emmerich, That was the chekov's gun to REALLY carrying The Boss 's will.
Ocelot was probably watching over Otacon the whole time to see if he would find a way to end the patriots that zero established, from the days of phantom pain, along with the testing of the sons of big boss.
kojima predicted it even before this was made.
Love how he had the audacity to say Diamond Dogs clung to DD when all Snake did was Rescue him and Ocelot trained him.
Ocelot doesnt realize that Chico revealed the location of Mother Base
+Z Saya (ZNetworkRex/RexZRS) indeed, and he doesn't know skull face. huey is still a jerk though.
Izayoi / Nixoid and Kojima forgot too
In all honesty, even if Chico didn’t reveal the location of Mother base, I mean, when you look at it from a certain point of view, Huey has just as much blame as Chico because he let them come and attack Mother base. I mean, he should’ve known better than accept a “preliminary” inspection when said inspection was a ruse for Skull and XOF to attack and destroy mother base. But he let them come anyways. So looking at it like, you can say that Huey was essentially responsible for what happened to mother base, especially seeing as how nine years later, he’s the one who is easier to blame since he didn’t lose anything out of compared to say, Miller, because Miller didn’t just lose mother base, he lost an arm and a leg too
And I mean, at least Chico didn’t have any malicious intentions
@@bigroaststyrone8135
At least Chico has the excuse of being tortured.
The fact that you can hear her heart beat slower and slower is sad
i found huey's dialogue from 29:21 on was impactful and probably my favourite lines of his from the title
You know, it's really sad to see Huey become a villain. I liked him a lot in Peace Walker. And I was the one who understood and supported Huey when he wanted the inspection to happen (But make no mistake, I hated the fact that he sent the letter without consulting with Kaz and Big Boss). He actually looked like a victim to me in Phantom Pain initially and I thought he was just a victim and hoped that Huey proves that he was a good guy. However, after knowing that he killed Strangelove and risked the life of Otacon, it disgusted me and wished someone kill Huey. Even when Venom spared Huey, he still had the balls to say that Snake should have been the one in that life raft. I am glad he died and made me like Otacon even more
Shit Ocelot is just too good at this thing.
Thanks for the upload.
Huey lied about so many things, but he couldn't lie about how great he thought his invention was. Huey had this pitiful woe is me tone every time he tried to explain his way out of Kaz and Ocelot's questions, but when he talked about Sahelanthropus, there was a tone of pride, especially in the "history of mankind" and "bipedal" part of the tape. Huey only cared about his inventions and didn't really care whether the Metal Gear brought drastic consequences and his actions brought to his friends.
Such great voice acting omfg
Snake: "I'm not recording anything."
*records anyway because screw Huey and his traitorous lies*
DD is a good boy, wolf or doge.
The goodest of boys amongst the Diamond Dogs.
Moon Moon, or Doggo. He's a good boy!
...And he's not your alibi, Huey. Don't take it out of him because you've been found out.
DD is forever loyal to the cause.
We miss you strangelove I loved how you came to us in peace walker at the very end. Rest In Peace
28:47 " "you're"? So you're not with us?"
I cant believe he experimented on Hal! Dx now we know why REX looks the way it does.
29:34 Huey had me chuckling on this one, I also was like, "Umm that's a wolf, but whatever" when he named him D Dog at the beginning of the game. The best part though was DD was in the chopper as well and barked during this part.
Hahaha same, barked at the perfect moment
D Dog had suspicions about huey
Listening to Stranglove slowly suffocate at the end is pretty brutal. Huey did her dirty.
i know that but i mean ocelot doesnt know it and otacon was the one who ACTUALLY carri3d out the boss's will. Philanthropy
+Isaac Chaudhry he really did, he is also twice the man his father was.
+Confused Soul This isn't exactly an accomplishment.
Confused Soul not twice quadruple times
Actaully Solid Snake is the living embodiment of The Boss's will. It was Solid Snake that influenced and inspired Otacon to be who he was later on. Solid Snake and Otacon then becane two sides of the same coin
13:50 So Huey basically explained how Solid Snake inherited Big Boss’ genes?
4:50 "Hunched-over bipedal waddling?" Huey, do you NOT remember how ZEKE moved around when Snake fought it? In case you've forgotten, Paz had that thing jumping like it was on the moon!
Paz made it glide too
"that's rich coming from you" even Venom Snake knows how much of a hypocrite huey is.
Served him right for locking Strangelove in. Clearly insane that almost got Emma killed.
I wonder if Huey tried to take Emma with him on purpose when he drowned himself.
At first, I thought of Huey Emmerich as a father. Looking at Sons Of Liberty before I played The Phantom Pain story, I wondered why she was complaining of her father that almost drowned her. But now I understood. Huey is a murderous, lier, stealer of the lives in the Quarantine Facility, even bringing down the Venom Boss, who didn't realise he was talking to the Fake Venom Snake. If I was Big Boss, I would've shot him, but doing this would cause a time paradox, similar to Ocelot from MGS3: Snake Eater. Preventing the situation of almost drowning Emma is one of them. At least R&D can use Huey's work to their use.
Even back when it was just MGS2 it sounded like it b/c of Emma being Julie's daughter
Metal Gear Solid 4 elaborated on what MGS2 mentioned about the bastard in that he did attempt to kill her too. But instead drowned himself. A very pathetic, fitting demise for Huey if ya ask me.
Damn, the acting they put in these recordings is just deep
"I'm a normal human being"
7:59 As much as of a lying bastard Huey is (nor I am trying to make look like a good person or defend him, I mean just because someone's a terrible person doesn't mean they can't be right about something) for once he's actually telling the truth there he was genuinely baffled how skull face managed to get the Sahelanthropus to work without a human pilot or AI even he had no idea that a psychic named psycho mantis was controlling it.
he also told the truth that Sahelanthropus was just a paper tiger. it is indeed COMPLETELY useless without Psycho Mantis, once Venom Snake destroyed it in Kingdom of the Flies, it was scrapped for good before Metal Gear 1.
23:22 ocelot is really disgusted there
"EVERYONE KNOWS THAT DOG IS A WOLF!"
Ok, he's guilty for sure. No one hurts DD
That was one of the reasons I wanted him out.
1. He harassed Big Boss and Miller into allowing the inspection
2. He sealed Strangelove in the Boss AI
3. Tried to change the subject of covering his ass to Big Boss
4. Helped the whiney little sh!t Eli repair Sahelanthropus
5. F**ker may have done or said something to Paz
Troy Baker really knocked it out of the park as Ocelot
What the actual hell happened to Huey? Was he secretly this much of a bastard back when I rescued him in PW? What the hell happened in the many years between PW and... THIS disgrace?
I wanna hear that story.
ES21007 basically became the proverbial mad scientist. He used his kid for demoing sehelanthropus, and killed Strangelove for trying to protect their child. He had fun with all of the unlimited technology at his fingertips, and became drunk with power, until big boss snatched his ass out of there.
ES21007 thanks for asking this I felt the same way
ES21007 He likely saw what was happening to Big Boss and his idea and wanted to distance himself.
blacktigerpaw1 and in doing so, went down a dark path himself.
Why does Huey's awfulness come completely out of left field?
+Fredwilson45 A good psychopath when revealed has their awfulness come out of nowhere.
Because the left is usually delusional, embracing ideals like equality, control etc even though they have no base in reality, so when reality shatter their delusions they don't open their eyes. They lie, even to themselves, so they will not shatter their narrative, until they reach a meltdown or their heads. Proof? See Anti Trump supports behavior, lying, hitting and swearing at people that practice reality.
+Darkmasterxx ??? Why are you spewing this weird political jargon? Have you never heard the expression "out of left field"? Also I'm pretty sure Huey isn't a monster because he is a left wing liberal.
This is actually a very good question. I mean, in Peace Walker he did a wrong thing or two, but his heart was in the right place. Now, it just feels like he cares more about his ambition/reputation rather than the motive of not letting nukes get fired ever again.
Whoa dude you figured it out. Today Bernie Sanders said he was going to unleash ethnic cleaning parasites on Washington D.C. And lock his wife I robot. How'd you see that coming!
If only half the tapes had been turned into cutscenes...
I seriously have to ask why he made Sahelanthropus so powerful and not the bare minimum to meet skull face's standards. Or make it look strong but have a crippling weakness.
Because he's a traitor
Why wouldn't he? He knew what he was doing, and he loved every second of it. He's like Walter White from Breaking Bad; he makes constant excuses, maybe even starts to believe it. But beneath it all, he does it all because he wants to.
Would he have been able to? I doubt Skullface wouldn't notice flaws in it's design or have other engineers look at it for sighns of tampering.
Sahelanthropus isn't powerful tho; it doesn't work at all. It's an absurdly overambitious design that was never going to function properly with the tech limitations of the era. The only reason it ever moves at all is that a telekinetic kid plays with it like a puppet.
Honestly it probably was the bare minimum, the thing didn't work and could barely be called a Metal Gear. It had to be puppeted around by a psychic to be a threat.
Even Huey didn't know how it was seemingly operational when he first saw it drop in, because it actually was impossible.
Huey thinking that the inspection being real is probably the only true thing about this. He's the kind of guy desperate to justify his own actions to others, and lie about the bad ones to prop himself up. He probably did want to make MSF seem justified in the eyes of the world and tried to take the initiative for that when he thought everyone else was being unreasonable about something that would help them.
Every single one of his actions are driven by self-preservation and cowardice. Rather than go the long way around of sticking with his comrades, he hoped to prove them wrong in an action that turned out fatal for everyone, and he forgets others lost things too. He did lose a lot, but his cowardly nature meant he lost a lot less.
23:23 I love this quote. Cause I would say the same to someone I once trusted who stabbed me in the back.
Huey is the most disgusting character in the saga
It's amazing how in one game he's weak and spineless but overall a decently likable character, then the the next he all of that and a real POS.
Litterally spineless, lol
huey's pretty much projecting himself in his arguments. kinda sad actually.
19:31
Ouch.
31:16
Really subtly fucked up connection. The static/disturbance sounds at the start of this tape? They're the same sound effects used in Viola's death message in Zone of the Enders, one of Kojima's other games.
And now we know one of the reasons why Huey committed suicide by drowning himself years later
"It may sound like the boss, but it has neither a personality, or a will"
These tapes are so uncomfortable they're awesome. I can totally see myself acting like Huey if I was in his position, caught guilty and trying to come up with excuses. Fantastic voice acting by all.
I really couldn't unhear Otacon. Yeah yeah, he's the same VO as good ol' Otacon
Strangelove is so fucking weird. It's no wonder they called her, "Strange love". She has like a fucking hard-on for the Boss, who was already into the Sorrow.
Kojima changed his mind from thinking scientists are super models like in MGS1.
"You're nothing but a bunch of psychopaths "
Me: big mistake Huey
Telling the undeniable truth can be considered a mistake to Psychopaths.
1/10th the size of the reptile pod is too big?
isn't that like 2/10ths the size of a person?
Hold on.....Against the idea of carrying a nuke? But...he willingly had the nuke on Zeke.
poor otacon both his father and mother were fucked up
+Tom3744 At the very least his mom had something of a moral ground (shown when she was torturing Big Boss) and genuinely loved him. But yeah she was pretty fucked up, just not to the extent of his father.
+Ricardo Quezada nowhere near the extent to his father. His mother may have some flaws in her right, but she genuinely loved him deeply and protected him from his appalling father, she hoped great things for Hal, and it helped influence the boss's wisdom. Hal truly possesses the boss's will, I'd say he does even more so than most if not "any" other character in the metal gear solid franchise
His whole family was screwed up! Remember his unnamed step mother? Christ- what was wrong with her?!
25:36 by beta rays he means beta particles...the more you know
A hybrid of the Mammal and the Reptile... You mean the Synapsid?
13:30 Skuuuul Face
I love that even tho they "reconed" Dr Clark into Paramedic, they still call Dr Clark a "He" @14:18
Its possible that since she is a patriot, she decided to lie about her genders as Dr Clark.
Man I love MGS
Miller or Ocelot comments in one of the tapes that they don't know for certain if "Dr. Clark" is really even a "he" because there's no info or leads on that person to be found anywhere
@@Effigyy There's a huge giveaway with Dr. Clark and DARPA, the DARPA chief from MGS1 it's Sigit from MGS3
that was already confirmed in the MGS4 Database, Paramedic was so secretive that no one even knew her Gender as Dr. Clark, so everyone just defaulted to "he".
just like in MGS2, no one knew the gender of Olga's child so Solid Snake said "Don't Worry, I'll find HIM", then MGS4 revealed that Sunny was Olga's Daughter.
I feel like Ocelot is in tape 3 and Huey in tape 6 is sort of talking past its own context to get to the underlying issues in Big Boss's mind.
1:47 there's a slight pause when Huey was thinking of Zeke buried underwater excuse.
TIL Sahelanthropus is a real specimen.
Oh Emmerich, you got off scot free, in my hands, you would've paid for your crimes ten fold
Is Otacon aware of The Boss' meme? I don't recall he is, and I thought it's amazing that he became the inheritor to The Boss' will completely on account of his own decisions, without anyone else's input or pressure.
To be honest, conversation between Huey and occelot are the best in all the cassette tapes after songs
i like that huey is a pathological liar without even realising it. it just is his natural defensive mechaninism so he doesnt even realise hes doing it. its clear hes not a psychopath just a person with an incredibley flawed mindset.
I thought in peace walker huey would be like otacon a Bestfriend for big boss
"snake! you finally came, this stays between us no recording anything"
"im not recording anything" he says on the video recording tape
Venom might treat Huey a little better than Kaz and Ocelot duo, but it's no brainer that he too, is sick of Huey's slimy nature.
14:07 = Sooo..despite uploading Fake Snake with BB's memories, they didn't include the time he joined the Illuminati with Dr. Clark AKA Para-medic?
Big Boss was closed off but damn I never heard of that-
forget everything else. NOBODY badmouths big bosses goodest boi dd!
alternative title: interrogate a typical politician.
I only have 5 tapes how do i get the sixth and seventh huey tapes
I get that strangelove was suffocating in the pod, but what were all those weird pulses where the sound messed up for a second?
Her heartbeat, perhaps?
Clearly humping the pod.
Metal Gear Solid VI: Rise of the Otacon!