Thank you so much for making this video!!! I first got into the MOTHER series when I was 11-12 years old and now as an adult (almost 20), I have learned so much more about the series that I never have before. I was aware of the novels, but not what was in them. I knew the notebook inspired MOTHER 3, but never how much. I very much enjoyed this video as it gave me more knowledge to my favorite game franchise. I watched your first dark aspects not too long ago and wow, you are an incredible creator to have given that amount of time and energy into that project. Because of you, memories of the series came back to me and all the knowledge I knew resurfaced with new ones. Thank you again for that! It was also really cool hearing and seeing more of Earthbound/MOTHER 64! Never knew any of that! Again, thank you for giving me and many others this cool information, means a lot! My younger self thanks you too!
Shame Itoi stopped making games. Even if it wouldnt have necessarily been a mother game I would love to see how Itoi would pull of a full on detective game.
I'm split on this! I would love to play a MOTHER 4, though I'd want Itoi to write it (or at the very least, work closely with a writer of Itoi's choosing and then sign off on it). He's very likely done with making video games, however, so I'd rather Nintendo just remake the games that already exist and not alter the original scripts. If they had to make something brand new set in the series though, I might be OK with a spin off that plays like the RPGs, in the vein of Cognitive Dissonance or something. That last part is key--we don't need an EarthBound version of Hey! Pikmin or Chibi-Robo! Zip Lash lol
@@ThaneGaming honestly I would prefer have a million times even if it would be too much to ask for the other versions of mother 3 leaked before they even propose to release a mother 4
Finally confirmation that the name "Giygas" is pronounced "ghee-gihs", instead of "guy-gihs". The reason of the sound "ghee" seeming off to the ear. Cool!
I won't fault people for pronouncing it "guy-gihs", as I know it sounds cooler. I just hope more fans recognize that "ghee-gihs" is closer to Itoi's intention with the name!
@@ThaneGaming Yeah, for a while I also pronounced it that way, even though I myself have never played Earthbound (shock I know)....but through so much word of mouth and genuine love people have for the game, it's one of those rare games which I love without having even played, if that makes sense lol. My first exposure was actually through a video of top Nintendo disturbing bosses, and guess who is typically at the top? 😉 Also, have a sub! 😊
@@SomaCoreaix That's funny, my initial exposure to EarthBound was also one of those "top disturbing Nintendo bosses"! Ness & Lucas in Super Smash Bros. wasn't enough to convince me to play the games--it was seeing Giygas for the first time that sold it for me. I couldn't believe something like that was at the end of such a seemingly innocous game, and it inspired episode one of Dark Aspects! I think when most people first see "Giygas" spelled out, they say it that way in their heads, myself included--I made the switch though when I looked into it more. That absolutely does make sense, I have a few games I admire quite a bit but have never actually played myself either (Rule of Rose is one of them).
@@ThaneGaming Exactly! EarthBound is one of those games that seems cute and cuddly on the surface until you begin to realize the deeper meaning of everything. Even then, nothing is quite as unsettling as that final confrontation, as well as the music. In fact I think the first part of Giygas' theme, when you first see the Devils Machine, is the scariest song and situation in the entire game and really sells the fact that nothing earlier on could have prepared you for this. The rest of the game is so goofy and abstract, which I love. Contrasted with the pure horror of the finale it all makes for one hell of a unique experience that would NEVER be justified in a remake (PLEASE NINTENDO NEVER SOIL THE ORIGINAL WITH A SHODDY, likely watered-down redux). Itoi really nailed the aspect of an RPG set in a modern setting, and the game was far too clever for its time because of it. A remake would only end up perversing the original because I have no doubt that many things would be changed or removed, so as not to offend people. It got away with alot back then, and its endearing legacy deserves to be forever cast in titanium, never to be broken. Now if a Mother 4 came along.....then, who knows? 😀 On the subject of Rule of Rose, I haven't played that either but I highly recommend an analysis video by RagnarRox which dissects the game into quite a compelling watch, at over an hour.
This is how I imagine a Mother 3 novelization could work. Given the quantum rift mentioned at the end of Mother 2’s novelization, the Porky in Mother 3 would be an alternate dimension version of the one seen at the end of another 2. This version was a Minch and stayed one, and never got a happy ending.
That's a very good idea. I think Mother 3 would work quite well as a novel--I'd be most interested in seeing the perspective shifts for each chapter, and getting POV from the Masked Man during the later chapters (since Kumi has expressed wanting to explore his story). Porky is my favorite villain in anything ever, so the idea of a split where he actually gets a happy ending and one where he remains "the most trouble-making boy ever" is very appealing to me. His obsession with Ness could really be played up in this theoretical novel, too...
It sure is! I've read those books twice now--they are quite the shock and if you can believe it, there's actually a lot more explicit content in there I didn't talk about because then this video would be restricted 😅 not everyone can stomach it, but if you can the story itself is very, very good. I can see why Itoi was impacted by it enough to honor the main characters in his own game.
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Living in a time where you can watch more than 2 hours nonstop of quality Mother content is really great
I hereby start a petition for Thane to do a Let's Play and/or Let's Stream the 3 Mother games. Your personal experiences in commentary would be fantastic 👌
I've been back & forth over this idea throughout the years! A Let's Play in the vein of Chuggaconroy would be more my style, though that would take a lot of work in and of itself. I would likely have to pause my usual content, so it would have to be done on a channel "break". I did my first livestream a few months ago on MapleMoriko's channel and it was a good time, but I got so anxious before and after that I'm not sure I'd be able to do it regularly 😅 I'm talking, not being able to sleep at all anxious (even though it totally went well)!
@@ThaneGaming Well, if you wanted to you could make a separate channel devoted entirely to literal gaming while you preserve this channel for your discussion videos. Just a thought 😀 And it would take a bit of work but passion is most of that work, I've noticed 🙂
I've just discovered your channel yesterday and actually finished Dark Aspects of Mother a few hours before you dropped this.. Absolutely blown away by your videos! Currently making a Link to the Past prequel fangame and the channel will be under the credits resource section... instant sub!
I'm so glad this seems to have come at just the right time for people! Thank you so much for giving the original a watch, and for staying on board for this one 😅 I do hope you like it, some wild stuff has been surfaced since the last one. The world of Mother content has grown! That A Link to the Past prequel sounds like a very cool idea, best of luck to yourself. I hope production on the fangame runs smoothly 😁
I don't think the 1st and 2nd novels take place in alternative realities, but instead Giegue (idk if it's spelled that way) and Giygas are entirely different beings that are unrelated
That's such a cool coincidence, looks like it was a good time to upload this! I never thought I'd be able to make another one that even comes close to being as long as the first--I'm so glad there's this much extra MOTHER content out there.
You're welcome, that's what I'm here for! No other Nintendo game so far has taken me as long to talk about for Dark Aspects as MOTHER 3 has in particular. Despite this series only having three games, it's amazing how much there is to uncover! I'm just happy there's enough extra content to warrant another compilation like this. EarthBound 64 and the books based on the games has kept the train rolling 🚆
Congrats off covering everything in the mother series me and many other people own our thanks to you , cause you are one the main reasons i got hooked in the mother series and made me discover a lot off hidden gems like the novels
That is so cool to read, thank you! I can't tell you how it feels to know that to some extent, my videos helped draw in some fans who may have never tried the series otherwise. Super Smash Bros. wasn't enough for me personally to give the games a go, it was the hard work of Tomato & Starmen.Net that made me see how special this trilogy really is. I'm happy--it's a little bittersweet knowing that I'm all caught up for now, but I know there will surely be more to talk about in the future and I can always come up with new video ideas for my favorite game franchise 😊
@@ThaneGaming thank you too , this series was really hard too get into for a guy like me who doesnt like RPGS much but it was worth it , and yes it may be bittersweet that the main mother content has been covered , but well the mother fanbase just keeps up on giving i am sure there be tons off stuff too still talk about (:
Fun Maine Fact here! I'm amused because L/A does exist in Maine; it's shorthand for the twin cities Lewiston and Auburn, between Maine's capital Augusta and its largest city, Portland. What's interesting is that the interstate - I95 - didn't exist until the 1950s.
I hope you enjoy it as much as the first! There's some fascinating extra MOTHER content out there, and it's only just been uncovered these past couple of years.
That makes me happy to hear--I've been dying to finish and post this new collection ever since working on the EarthBound 64 video, which was about a year ago now!
That is LSD Dream Emulator, yes! I don't know how familiar you are with the game, but those are downer (evil) textures that start appearing after 20 in-game days. I really love Dream Emulator--a new interview was put out somewhat recently so I'd be interested in making a new video about it!
Live A Live! It's the Switch remake of a Super Famicom game, that was translated into English for the first time last year. I recommend it, the game's really fun and interesting if you like subversive JRPGs
LOVE the video !!! BUT ☻34:00 scalpers where there in the 1970s reselling tickets to shows... it was TAKEN From the music reselling slang INTO the hobby then later videogame collecting world... It is quite chronologically challenged to make it as if it wasn'T justifiably explained :P (technically religions were SCALPING access to heaven with indulgences and pardons in dogmatic organized religions for centuries!
he births giygas in the novel when it grows and comes out of porky. this would make him fulfil the role of "mothering" giygas by bringing it into the world. thane uses the word in a more archetypal or metaphorical sense, not based on porky's actual gender. children are born when they come out of their moms
Thank you so much for making this video!!! I first got into the MOTHER series when I was 11-12 years old and now as an adult (almost 20), I have learned so much more about the series that I never have before. I was aware of the novels, but not what was in them. I knew the notebook inspired MOTHER 3, but never how much. I very much enjoyed this video as it gave me more knowledge to my favorite game franchise. I watched your first dark aspects not too long ago and wow, you are an incredible creator to have given that amount of time and energy into that project. Because of you, memories of the series came back to me and all the knowledge I knew resurfaced with new ones. Thank you again for that! It was also really cool hearing and seeing more of Earthbound/MOTHER 64! Never knew any of that! Again, thank you for giving me and many others this cool information, means a lot! My younger self thanks you too!
Shame Itoi stopped making games. Even if it wouldnt have necessarily been a mother game I would love to see how Itoi would pull of a full on detective game.
1:04:30 VINESAUCE MENTIONED. WTF IS A SPEEEEEEIIINNNN💫💫💫💫💫💫
I hope we get a mother 4 one day. no other "motherlike" really fills the void the Mother series gives.
I'm split on this! I would love to play a MOTHER 4, though I'd want Itoi to write it (or at the very least, work closely with a writer of Itoi's choosing and then sign off on it). He's very likely done with making video games, however, so I'd rather Nintendo just remake the games that already exist and not alter the original scripts. If they had to make something brand new set in the series though, I might be OK with a spin off that plays like the RPGs, in the vein of Cognitive Dissonance or something. That last part is key--we don't need an EarthBound version of Hey! Pikmin or Chibi-Robo! Zip Lash lol
@@ThaneGaming honestly I would prefer have a million times even if it would be too much to ask for the other versions of mother 3 leaked before they even propose to release a mother 4
Personally I'd like it if Itoi was a lead writer on a mario rpg or one of those small scale zelda games(like the handheld ones).
Idk bro oddity captures that earthbound vibe
@@KuroReisho does that game even exist lol
Finally confirmation that the name "Giygas" is pronounced "ghee-gihs", instead of "guy-gihs". The reason of the sound "ghee" seeming off to the ear. Cool!
I won't fault people for pronouncing it "guy-gihs", as I know it sounds cooler. I just hope more fans recognize that "ghee-gihs" is closer to Itoi's intention with the name!
@@ThaneGaming Yeah, for a while I also pronounced it that way, even though I myself have never played Earthbound (shock I know)....but through so much word of mouth and genuine love people have for the game, it's one of those rare games which I love without having even played, if that makes sense lol. My first exposure was actually through a video of top Nintendo disturbing bosses, and guess who is typically at the top? 😉
Also, have a sub! 😊
@@SomaCoreaix That's funny, my initial exposure to EarthBound was also one of those "top disturbing Nintendo bosses"! Ness & Lucas in Super Smash Bros. wasn't enough to convince me to play the games--it was seeing Giygas for the first time that sold it for me. I couldn't believe something like that was at the end of such a seemingly innocous game, and it inspired episode one of Dark Aspects! I think when most people first see "Giygas" spelled out, they say it that way in their heads, myself included--I made the switch though when I looked into it more. That absolutely does make sense, I have a few games I admire quite a bit but have never actually played myself either (Rule of Rose is one of them).
@@ThaneGaming Exactly! EarthBound is one of those games that seems cute and cuddly on the surface until you begin to realize the deeper meaning of everything. Even then, nothing is quite as unsettling as that final confrontation, as well as the music. In fact I think the first part of Giygas' theme, when you first see the Devils Machine, is the scariest song and situation in the entire game and really sells the fact that nothing earlier on could have prepared you for this. The rest of the game is so goofy and abstract, which I love. Contrasted with the pure horror of the finale it all makes for one hell of a unique experience that would NEVER be justified in a remake (PLEASE NINTENDO NEVER SOIL THE ORIGINAL WITH A SHODDY, likely watered-down redux). Itoi really nailed the aspect of an RPG set in a modern setting, and the game was far too clever for its time because of it. A remake would only end up perversing the original because I have no doubt that many things would be changed or removed, so as not to offend people. It got away with alot back then, and its endearing legacy deserves to be forever cast in titanium, never to be broken.
Now if a Mother 4 came along.....then, who knows? 😀
On the subject of Rule of Rose, I haven't played that either but I highly recommend an analysis video by RagnarRox which dissects the game into quite a compelling watch, at over an hour.
This is how I imagine a Mother 3 novelization could work.
Given the quantum rift mentioned at the end of Mother 2’s novelization, the Porky in Mother 3 would be an alternate dimension version of the one seen at the end of another 2. This version was a Minch and stayed one, and never got a happy ending.
That's a very good idea. I think Mother 3 would work quite well as a novel--I'd be most interested in seeing the perspective shifts for each chapter, and getting POV from the Masked Man during the later chapters (since Kumi has expressed wanting to explore his story). Porky is my favorite villain in anything ever, so the idea of a split where he actually gets a happy ending and one where he remains "the most trouble-making boy ever" is very appealing to me. His obsession with Ness could really be played up in this theoretical novel, too...
Man! That Notebook trilogy section is daaaaaaaaark!
It sure is! I've read those books twice now--they are quite the shock and if you can believe it, there's actually a lot more explicit content in there I didn't talk about because then this video would be restricted 😅 not everyone can stomach it, but if you can the story itself is very, very good. I can see why Itoi was impacted by it enough to honor the main characters in his own game.
Living in a time where you can watch more than 2 hours nonstop of quality Mother content is really great
I hereby start a petition for Thane to do a Let's Play and/or Let's Stream the 3 Mother games. Your personal experiences in commentary would be fantastic 👌
I've been back & forth over this idea throughout the years! A Let's Play in the vein of Chuggaconroy would be more my style, though that would take a lot of work in and of itself. I would likely have to pause my usual content, so it would have to be done on a channel "break". I did my first livestream a few months ago on MapleMoriko's channel and it was a good time, but I got so anxious before and after that I'm not sure I'd be able to do it regularly 😅 I'm talking, not being able to sleep at all anxious (even though it totally went well)!
@@ThaneGaming Well, if you wanted to you could make a separate channel devoted entirely to literal gaming while you preserve this channel for your discussion videos. Just a thought 😀
And it would take a bit of work but passion is most of that work, I've noticed 🙂
I've just discovered your channel yesterday and actually finished Dark Aspects of Mother a few hours before you dropped this.. Absolutely blown away by your videos! Currently making a Link to the Past prequel fangame and the channel will be under the credits resource section... instant sub!
I'm so glad this seems to have come at just the right time for people! Thank you so much for giving the original a watch, and for staying on board for this one 😅 I do hope you like it, some wild stuff has been surfaced since the last one. The world of Mother content has grown! That A Link to the Past prequel sounds like a very cool idea, best of luck to yourself. I hope production on the fangame runs smoothly 😁
I don't think the 1st and 2nd novels take place in alternative realities, but instead Giegue (idk if it's spelled that way) and Giygas are entirely different beings that are unrelated
love this game series, mother 3 is 1st place in my book (2nd is metal gear rising revengeance)
Are you talking favorite games of all time, or has Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance secretly been MOTHER 4 all along?
@@ThaneGaming sorry, should have been more specific. metal gear rising revengeance is mother 4 (jk all time favorite games)
i'm only half an hour in thus far, but this upload came at such a good time. honestly a fan of your mother-related work, especially.
Hello, my absolute friend! Just finished rewatching the dark aspects of Mother collection the other day and then I see this!!
Hello there, that's awesome to hear! I've been working on this for some time now, I hope you enjoy this one as much as the other collection 😊
I also just watched the other one the other day. Definitely an engrossing watch!
That's such a cool coincidence, looks like it was a good time to upload this! I never thought I'd be able to make another one that even comes close to being as long as the first--I'm so glad there's this much extra MOTHER content out there.
Thank you for unraveling the games with the most dark aspects to offer of perhaps A N Y series
You're welcome, that's what I'm here for! No other Nintendo game so far has taken me as long to talk about for Dark Aspects as MOTHER 3 has in particular. Despite this series only having three games, it's amazing how much there is to uncover! I'm just happy there's enough extra content to warrant another compilation like this. EarthBound 64 and the books based on the games has kept the train rolling 🚆
Congrats off covering everything in the mother series me and many other people own our thanks to you , cause you are one the main reasons i got hooked in the mother series and made me discover a lot off hidden gems like the novels
That is so cool to read, thank you! I can't tell you how it feels to know that to some extent, my videos helped draw in some fans who may have never tried the series otherwise. Super Smash Bros. wasn't enough for me personally to give the games a go, it was the hard work of Tomato & Starmen.Net that made me see how special this trilogy really is. I'm happy--it's a little bittersweet knowing that I'm all caught up for now, but I know there will surely be more to talk about in the future and I can always come up with new video ideas for my favorite game franchise 😊
@@ThaneGaming thank you too , this series was really hard too get into for a guy like me who doesnt like RPGS much but it was worth it , and yes it may be bittersweet that the main mother content has been covered , but well the mother fanbase just keeps up on giving i am sure there be tons off stuff too still talk about (:
im guessing the original ending of mother 64 was going to be something like everyone dies? instead of the world being "reborn" or whatever
Fun Maine Fact here! I'm amused because L/A does exist in Maine; it's shorthand for the twin cities Lewiston and Auburn, between Maine's capital Augusta and its largest city, Portland. What's interesting is that the interstate - I95 - didn't exist until the 1950s.
Thanks for the upload!
Hey of course, you're welcome! Thanks for being here 😁
@@ThaneGaming You're welcome!
H0LLY SH1T 2 HOURS D:, this is gonna be epic
This has been in the works for about a year, let me know what you think! 😅
I LOVE your Mother-analysis videos, bro. You hace a new suscriber. :)
Ayeeee another 2 hour vid🔥🔥🔥
I hope you enjoy it as much as the first! There's some fascinating extra MOTHER content out there, and it's only just been uncovered these past couple of years.
@@ThaneGaming I always enjoy every vid you drop, you're always extremely thorough❤️
So pumped to see this post
That makes me happy to hear--I've been dying to finish and post this new collection ever since working on the EarthBound 64 video, which was about a year ago now!
They put a guy getting lynched in the game promotion. Sheesh.
4:31 *S Q U A N D O G ! ! ! ! !*
Hey Thane, what were those creepy PS1-looking footage you showed during the Mother 2 section? Is that LSD Dream Emulator or something similar?
That is LSD Dream Emulator, yes! I don't know how familiar you are with the game, but those are downer (evil) textures that start appearing after 20 in-game days. I really love Dream Emulator--a new interview was put out somewhat recently so I'd be interested in making a new video about it!
What's the name of the game that was shown in between with the cowboys and guy the guy in on the bike
Live A Live! It's the Switch remake of a Super Famicom game, that was translated into English for the first time last year. I recommend it, the game's really fun and interesting if you like subversive JRPGs
thanks brother didn’t expect 2 1/2 hours
ayyyyyyy dope
Nice profile picture--glad you're excited, I've been looking forward to posting this one for a long time now!
LOVE the video !!! BUT ☻34:00 scalpers where there in the 1970s reselling tickets to shows...
it was TAKEN From the music reselling slang INTO the hobby then later videogame collecting world...
It is quite chronologically challenged to make it as if it wasn'T justifiably explained :P (technically religions were SCALPING access to heaven with indulgences and pardons in dogmatic organized religions for centuries!
Also, in 1:30:06 you say mother. Isn't porky a boy? what
he births giygas in the novel when it grows and comes out of porky. this would make him fulfil the role of "mothering" giygas by bringing it into the world. thane uses the word in a more archetypal or metaphorical sense, not based on porky's actual gender. children are born when they come out of their moms
It's secretly an omegaverse story.
wooo more dsrkness
The e in irony is made of GOLD, not IRON.
Sorry.
(This is supposed to be an Earthbound/Undertale/Deltarune-style joke, by the way)
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I LOVE your Mother-analysis videos, bro. You hace a new suscriber. :)