How Japan's best E. Honda player taught us all a valuable life lesson. Great Moments in FGC History
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- Опубліковано 5 січ 2020
- We're back with another Great Moment in Fighting Game History!! Today we're looking at Kusumondo, playing E. Honda, vs Afrolegends, playing Dee Jay, a match from the 2012 Super Turbo Tournament of Legends. Hope you enjoy!
Sources for the video:
Full match: • EVO 2012 - SSF2T (WF) ...
ST tier list: curryallergy.blogspot.com/2008...
Kusumondo interview: forums.shoryuken.com/t/transl...
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“DeeJay had a full stick of butter” 🧈
Unlucky for him, E. Honda loves butter on his pancakes.
DeeJay got pancaked.
Breakfast is served.
🤣
Damn that's clever 🤭
Indeed
This is one of the best thought out comments I have ever read. Kudos and cheers to you
You must have gone to the Jesse Ventura school of commentary. XD
“Afrolegends playing DeeJay, and Honda playing Kusomondo.” Yeah man I main Kusomondo.
I noticed that when he first said it and it was like brain fried potatoes
as soon as i heard it i went to find this comment.
Yup. Top-tier. I win ery tiem.
It's very subliminal but he says that because Kusomondo ONLY PLAYS E. HONDA. so I believe that's why he said that. Because they are both interchangeable
@@Vunomic Yes, especially if you apply one line from The Matrix to this, "Our convictions choose us".
In 2021. Just discovered your channel and I think this series is so dope. You taking the time to explain match up charts and what each players game plan is going into the match is beyond amazing for somebody like me who doesn’t know everything about the FGC but follows channels such as the fellows of yo video games, Matt Mcmuscles, wolly, and such this series was great.
I just love finding channels like this that covers stories and trivia about an extremely specific thing that deserves more love than what it gets.
Especially when it's something videogame related.
Love the content man.
This series is seriously one of my favorite things on UA-cam at the moment.
"full stick of butter" best name for full life bar.
With full stock of butter he doesn't mean the life bar, he means the super meter
@@FightingPapaDragon True, although in the context of what he was saying, it did seem like he was referring to his life bar. While "full stick of butter" normally does refer to super gauge, in this case Afro had both - full life and super bar.
i think it comes from guilty gear where a full super bar is yellow/gold. But in this game the health bar is also yellow /gold, so could be used for both.
@@AlexxxPerales It came from street fighter 4 for the same reason actually.
'Look at this LIFE disadvantage. DJ has a full stick of butter while Honda only has 30%'.
The commentator was referring to one thing and one thing only here. The life bars.
Letting you know that I'm not a super turbo player, but still enjoying your story telling. You do a really good job setting up the situation so that we can appreciate how skilled these players truly are
What an inspiring match from Kusomondo! Love that fact that he’s loyal to his character and doesn’t take shortcuts!
The tournaments we had in the hood was so intense!!
Never will forget the guys passing the controller around. Winner keeps playing
Lol...you brought back memories!
I was the one to roll the controller because wasn't that common for me to lose a fight on fighting games, and it's kinda odd to see your friends not playing to each other because you are good at the game.
one of my friends was a big gamer and one time a bunch of us were at a house and Marvel vs Capcom was being played. I joked that I'd whoop anyone there, everyone looked to Josh cause he was the known game master, we played and I won, everyone went cray and was kinda giving him shit for losing. He took it hard and I felt bad lol. Years later my gf beat me!
Awesome times
Don't forget that extra layer of difficulty of having to play Street fighter IRL if you won against THAT guy. Man, these nerds have NO IDEA. You had to be a real man to play Street fighter arcade in some areas or you'd just get your ass whooped and robbed! Had to see it happen once before I got my ass in a gym and a boxing ring 😂
1:07 “Honda playing Kusomondo”
Honda: See my Kuso tech *hundred hand slaps fightstick*
Lmao I peeped that too.
*Kuso Miso Technique.*
Thanks for this bruh, I needed a laugh :) !
I don't know if he said it subliminally because Kusomondo only plays E. Honda. So in a way it's true because they comparison is interchangeable
@@gonzalotorres5282 yaranaika?
10:00 the guy choking a chicken in the background never fails to get a laugh from me
I get 0% of your technical explanations, but your enthusiasm and energy makes it so amazing to watch!
You did a really good job explaining the nuances for everyone to appreciate the artistry in the gameplay
I dont play any fighting games really, just love listening to the analysis. Your enthusiasm and your interest keeps me interested lol. Love this video and all the others of this series you're making.
This precisely for me as well.
Try one!
Oh yes there is. The government bros
I don't even play video games anymore. But I did use to be a fighting game fanatic, particularly Street Fighter and Virtua Fighter. But I haven't played Street Fighter since 2011, which I also the last time I played video games period.
But I love this series. Brings back lots of nostalgia. I wish something like this has existed when I was still playing.
@@augustgreig9420 , pansy.
I'm originally a Smash player and I love your videos. They're always insightful and I get to learn about the deeper mechanics of other fighters, which as a fellow gamer I can always appreciate.
Binging back through your Greatest FGC Moments series again. You really just hit all the right notes with these vids. You find actual amazing things to make vids for. You give the viewer context for the moment, so even if we don't know why we should be excited for the match, you got us covered. You actually breakdown and explain game mechanics for those of us who don't already know everything can understand just how good these players are at their game and what the heck is happening on screen. And to top it off you are so full of hype for what you're showing us that it's easy to get hyped up with you.
Thank you so much for all the content. Keep being you and having fun!
Sorry guys, had to delete and re-upload the video due to technical problems. Hope you enjoy it!
Watched the previous upload and nothing was wrong?
@@StellaEFZ Might've been a monetization issue or something
was wondering what happened there lol, all good tho bro
Make this a series
Oooh this makes sense. I was so confused lol
18:48 That "draw" system should be implemented in all fighting games.
Absolutely agree
Round 4, fight. Nice memories there
In its heyday the games in arcades (the only place you could play) cost real money, so people would monopolize the machine by colluding to draw to continue "practicing."
mk11 is better
I love your breakdowns and rewatching certain parts to explain what's happening. I'm not a big SSF player but enjoy watching and it really helps to understand just how much is going on in a matter of seconds! Thank you for the videos!
I love how they are playing on CRT’s.
Its cause they have incredibly low lag btw
@@ashtar3876 Agreed!
I've only ever played ST casually. It was awesome how you broke down the key components/strategies to the match up before the gamplay started, seemingly without spoiling it. Made it a lot more impactful when those certain situations popped up in the match itself. Love your content man!
Ah yes
Honda playing Kusomondo
My favorite character
Proto lol
kingu crimson no nouryoku
I don’t even play fighting games but this series is cool. I like the pre-fight breakdowns where you go over the main tactics. Good stuff!
Hey jmcrofts -- amazing video! I love your analysis, especially showing all of Honda's options before getting into the match. I remember seeing this live in 2012 but I didn't understand the gravity of the matchup til now. Thanks a ton!
i'm almost 40 and have been playing sf since world warrior and I still have a lot of fun playing super turbo. love this game. Great fight coverage
Dragore im 40 and i plan 2 play till im one foot in the grave. i hope they perfect virtual reality and i live 2 play gta. PERFECT PHOTO REALISTIC!!(it just like your playing a movie)
Same
You guys should all play
@@isaacmettle one can dream, I, too, am waiting on the same.
ahh yes the first ever SF nobody really remembers it anymore bc some people never remembered that SF2 had a game before it, im 19 but i know my shit
You say around 13 minutes that you hope it's not annoying that you're replaying the last bit. I actually really enjoy it, because for 1 I'm probably going to replay it anyway to watch the cool bit again but moreover it lets you give your thought and talk a little bit more about what we are watching and what is going on. It's cool. Love these vids!
Agreed. And someone else mentioned that maybe he should use the speed selection to play them in slow motion. That would also be helpful during things that are hard to follow.
I'm absolutely a baby when it comes to these old fighting games, so somebody taking the time to dig up matches is well appreciated.
I love this channel. I treat his content like a podcast, super chill to have his videos play in the background.
This was a really awesome video! Being a gamer since i was as young as 2 years old and now being over the age of 30, that E.Honda fight definitely gave me hope with certain characters i have loved over the years in certain fighting games.
Just a little story about myself. When i was around the age of 5 or 6? I remember going to a candy store with my dad and there was STREET FIGHTER II standing there in the corner with a teenager playing the game. I watched the person play a few matches while my dad was busy doing whatever it was at the time. The teenager asked me if i wanted to play a match against him, and being so young at the time i was really intimidated by him but accepted the challenge. I still remember it as clear as day. I chose Chun-Li against his Ryu. And guess what? This younger version of me, a small scared kid, beat him 2-0. And he just looked at me and smiled and said "wow, good job dude" and shook my hand. I will always remember this moment in my life. A bit after whenever SFII hit the SNES, i broke my arm, and my dad got me the game as a gift. I played the game even with the cast on. Several hours a day with my older brother.
I don't really play fighting games much anymore, accept for Smash Bros. (if you can even classify it as a fighting game of course). But i still enjoy watching tournaments and videos like this one.
If you had the chance to read this, thank you for spending the time to get through it all. I really enjoyed this video and felt the need to share this moment with you guys.
-Draygen
That's pretty awesome!
Man that teenager has my eternal respect dude was basicly reverse ltg
thanks guys, this really does mean a lot.
Great story 💪🏾💯
@@KoolSocietyFilms 🤝
"Honda playing Kusamundo" made do a double take.
Lol same... I'm like - wait... was there some mystery character I'd never heard of in SF2?
why was that so funny? I lolled for ages
Was searching this comment, now i just found it.
Now i can die in peace
“made do a double take” made do double take.
I don't play fighting games at all. I don't buy fighting games. I just love their competitions and watching experts go at it
I haven't played fighting games in like at least 15 years and I enjoyed this video. Providing context of what the characters can do in this match up helped build intrigue, and your enthusiasm made it entertaining too. Great job, bro
15:49 “That butt slam gets punished all day.”
Archer: “PHRASING!”
My fist's have your blood on them
@@essen00cat EY! PHRASING!
Aww Jessica Walters.... 😢
Captain: "LANGUAGE!"
Am I the only one that thinks that show is merely a series of running jokes and character quirks (and isn't actually funny)? Apparently. :/
I remember lending a friend in elementary school my Alladin snes cart for Super Street Fighter Special Championship Edition on genesis. He moved and I ended up keeping it, thanks friend.
Ive watched this video at least 3 times. Love the way jmcrofts breaks down and presents these clips while simultaneously educating and hyping it up and showcasing the skill levels involved
I really enjoy your commentary! I used to play SFII in and SSFII T in the arcades long ago as a kid. Your videos remind me of a better time in my life, when all I had to worry about was grabbing pizza and having enough quarters to play after school. Thanks so much! I'm considering picking up this game to get back into it thanks to you!
"full stick of butter" LMAO. Hadn't heard that life bar euphemism before.
Funny enough I first heard it used for full tension bar in Guilty Gear lol
Right?! I like that one too.
@@rubiks5659 yeh I'm used to it being used for meter but totally works for HP too.
It’s been used a lot, but usually for super meters in fighting games
Been really enjoying these "Key Moments in FGC History" videos. Your commentary, knowledge of the scene and providing insightful context is really something. Content like this is really underserved right now. Hope you continue it.
These historical videos are amazing to me! I would love to see more. It's so cool to have these video analysis of games I may never have seen from someone who has been around longer
"Sometimes fighting games are like a game of rock, paper, scissors. But what do you do if the other guy keeps picking rock?"
I played SF2 super casually with a friend once, it was fun as hell, but I’m not a serious player. This video was great regardless though. Your excitement and passion for fighting games is really contagious and a lot of fun to listen to. Plus you teach us stuff about these games that some of us haven’t played before and it’s GREAT.
NullifytheShark Agreed, Well said!
Never realized how unfitting DeeJay art is in this game. His torso and arms are almost photorealistic.
All the new characters (and new moves) have this issue if you look closely
Honda’s new throw is so “pre-alpha anime like” compared to DeeJay’s realistic sprites.
@@Ebinsugewa They all stick out like sore thumbs.
Now that you mention it, he kinda looks like an SNK sprite.
@@silent.revolution2168Woah. I never noticed that before but it's so glaring once you see it.
Love fight games, grew up on street fighter, haven't touched it in 20 years. Watched this video all the way through. You narrate this and set it up perfectly. Your context is ALWAYS appreciated!!!!
Not a SF regular, but grew up around arcades - found your video interesting. Anything with a good explanation, narration whilst keeping things interesting is always a fine balance. Good job sir!
And to address your last point, I have never played or watched this game before. I really enjoyed the video a lot, because it's just cool to see a game that I have little interest in in a nice, bite sized, easy to digest package like this. I don't think I'm going to go out of my way to seek out more gameplay, but I definitely appreciated what I did see here today. Good video
There's no counter picking in real life 🧠🧠🤯
In fact many people ask others to fight for them.
I DISAGREE, LIFE IS FULL OF COUNTER PICKING
=)
wise words
You probably have seen more counterpicking irl than you think.
Life is basically all about counterpicking and options-selects. Having a good wakeup reversal game, safe-on-block setups and fast recovery on whiff. You can turtle, but you don't want to lose to the clock. Just stop jumping, don't mash, tech those throws and you win. Perfect.
I played that game way too much.
me too
Every time a quarter was in my hand
When my Son turned 10 I decided it was a great excuse to find a Sega Mega Drive/Genesis version of the game in order to properly introduce him to the history of video games. Needless to say, I ended up playing it way more than he did...
Lol next time give him a controller with more than 3 buttons to play street fighter.
I had a ps2 disc that had sf 2 and 3 and the movie I think
Awesome, thanks for highlighting this match up!
Watched this event live. Anyone interested in the highest level super turbo watch the whole top 8 a lot of character diversity and high level tech. Also James Chen and ultra David are at their commentary best due to this being their favorite game. Nothing quite like super turbo action, some real mind blowing stuff.
Noted.
I watched this again because of your comment. The commentary was some of the most complex yet enjoyable ever.
@@michaelxdrift I actually wasn't much into turbo when this happened, I just happened to watch it for fun and it really stuck with me. James Chen and ultra David being fans of the old legends helps pull you in too.
I’ve never played super turbo, but I love this series and how much knowledge and context you give about the games mechanics and the life lessons to be learned from the set. Keep going!
I have never played Turbo, but I really enjoyed this video. What a match between Honda and Deejay. Thank you for posting it!
I love this video! I watched 3 or 4 times already and still fresh to me. I'm far from be a fighting game specialist but I do enjoy this kind of videos. Keep up with that great work!
Thanks for the video! One of my favorite runs in ST/FGC history. Kusumondo was playing out of his mind that day.
i'm an old school SFII arcader and love seeing the content and the enthusiastic commentary. keep it up!
I don't really play fighting games but I've been watching videos on them and have been meaning to start playing street fighter 5. Love your videos and this was another great one. I liked how you took the time to explain the match ups and break down what was going on in the fight; it really made it easy to understand why it was such a great match. On the off chance you read this I just want you to know you've made this genre that I was originally daunted by to feel a lot more accessible and your videos never fail to put a smile on my face.
Played some super turbo back in the day, but it was never one of my main fighting games. Thanks for highlighting and breaking down this match. Been watching more of your videos lately and they're all great.
I feel like this series lets jmcrofts practice commentating
storylines are always fun and you have the experience to break it down to someone unfamiliar with the game, backing up and rewatching the hype moments and explaining it is a skillset! I think its a great way to introduce people into new games or just share the hype. thanks for doing these
Never really played, but that was a bloody epic showing, gets my blood pumping! Thank you for this! subbed!!!!
JM, these videos are incredibly entertaining. I played very few of these games but it doesn't detract from these videos. You're an incredible storyteller. Keep those going please! Huge fan.
Loving a character and sticking to them no matter what can create some magical moments.
It's a double edged sword. On one hand you lose the advantage of knowing what other characters can REALLY do (unless you play vs others a lot) and on the other hand you don't get sloppy at timing your attacks because all of your muscle memory can focus on that one character.
@@Trollamollex definitely agreed
I found this series recently and you have TOTALLY revived my love of fighting games. I just reinstalled SF4 the other night and it's been so fun just getting games in. Keep it up :D :D
This is my favorite JM Crofts video. So inspirational.
I like how you explain EVERYTHING, it’s so nice of you.
Really nice video, i’m loving this new historical fighting moments. Keep it going!!
I reeealy like this kind of videos, it makes me realise that fighting games as an e-sport are equal to any other sport. Waiting for another analysis c:
Greetings frome Chile.
Diego Flores I'd hardly put it in the same conversation with any physical sport, but it ripe for analysis and is also quite competitive. It's no more of a sport than a monopoly tournament though. At least not in my opinion. I'm glad people can get paid to play games. If it stated earlier I would have tried to find a way to go pro some game or another.
Nunya Bidness He is not talking about how intensive it is to play video games. He is talking about how fun it is to do an analysis.
@@obinwakanaobi4338 Thanks 🧡 that's what I meant.
Giving you a thumbs up. I was never great at street fighter and did not get big in to gaming but it definitely is part of my childhood and I love to see these videos. Very entertaining, understand the whole reason for E-Sports.
I have never watched super turbo at all but I found your videos going through interesting super turbo matches and have enjoyed all I have seen so far. I think I you are a very interesting guy and I like your videos. I will be digging deeper to find more fun stuff you have made! 😁
I enjoy watching fighting game content, even though I am certainly an observer over a player. Your enthusiasm and knowledge are delivered well. I enjoy your content, and your pauses are helpful if anything, much like a sports replay, always for better clarity and understanding. Keep up the good work. Cheers.
Hear, hear! Couldn't have said it better myself.
Start playing dude
I haven’t played much street fighter beside the once in a while casual match up in SF4 but I find these videos on older games fun and interesting. I find it that most fighting games in general are fun to watch and your videos are a great in-depth look in to them.
I had fun playing Super Turbo as a kid on console, but NEVER knew anything about it’s competitive community before I got into the FGC.
That being said, I REALLY enjoyed this video. Loving how you have been giving these FGC lessons. I have always been a fighting game fan. Didn’t grow up around arcades. I started running my own tournaments in college (unaware of how deep the FGC actually even was lol), then became a smash player and since have delved into the rabbit whole of competitive gaming (probably good that it came late in life, because I most likely would have never done anything else lol)
So I missed a LOT of FG history, and these videos have been great for me!
I have never played this in a competitive manner but I still enjoyed the story you told. The E. Honda player's quote at the end is profound and a good mentality to have in life. Thank you for sharing his valuable insight.
This was awesome, I appreciate the breakdown. The rounds are so fast the breakdowns are they only way to appreciate the play by play, thanks!
A little late but I did enjoy this. Passion definitely makes things more interesting and I appreciate seeing someone with a similar mindset to me being rewarded (work through and make it work with your main)
I've never played Super Turbo. I love your videos because you lay out what the advantages and disadvantages of the MU and then give solid commentary throughout.
You explained everything well enough that even though I have never played a street fighter game I understood what was happening and I could feel the same level of excitement that you did when watching this fight
Man! I'm very happy I watched this! I mained Fang because I like playing him and sticked with him no matter what happened. Seeing a professional saying the same thing is very refreshing! I still lose a lot haha
Smash player here! Love these videos, and even if I always hear people dogging on my game, I love to watch good players play well anywhere! Keep it up!
buy some deodorant will ya? lol im fuckin around... but seriously buy some plz
Smash is the best fighting game ever. No questions. It wins out in character cast, flow, controls, everything
Great video, commentary and analysis. Infectious laughter. I lived through every cheer and joke with you. I’m played sf2 champs edt from school days but didn’t know the depth you went into with the stat charts and charged input throw that was being used.. very enlightening!
These videos are a lot of fun to watch. Good Idea jmcrofts and thanks.
this is great stuff. Hope to see more of these analysis videos! Also, wasn't super well acquainted with any of the games you covered, but rather was a great and enjoyable learning experience nonetheless.
SF II has such a satisfying game play and beautiful fight cadence that its more than a classic.
I agree. Games like SF II are very rare. I would personally put N64 Goldeneye on that level too.
So satisfying it is above the normal level of classic. Maybe Sonic the hedgehog too.
@@DirtyJamesUK We used to tournament goldeneye. License to kill pistols. Money on the line
I used to play this game in my snes so many years ago, and it was my favorite SF game in SNES. So I was drawn to watching your video, because it's been so many years, and I wanted to see again how it looks like.
Nice vid!
Dude, rewatching these. 100% my favorite fighting game series. Look forward to more if ya got em
i had no idea that these SFII tournaments still existed and were even popular. Damn, I spent 1000's of kid hours perfecting my moves and now feel I wasted my adult life on other things when I could have become a contender!
Try playing online, if you can do good there then sure but it's hard to go pro
@@sheogroth I think that boat has sailed. Aren't pro gamers peak years in their late teens to mid 20's. I'd like to play online though, but I'm in China right now.
Man what a legendary moment.
I just picked up Super Turbo. I am loving it! I find watching these videos help me see what I have missed through out the years.
I basically don't know anything about Super Turbo, but you're honestly such a happy person and watching you be excited made the video a lot of fun.
Actually, I always was real bad at the SF games(for me as a kid it was too hard to learn them, without move lists or something alike) and so I never really played them much. But I recently got some motivation, to play them with my friends and to get better.
Now this motivation got me also to search for knowledge about the history these classic game series and I really enjoyed your video.
Moments like this one with Kusumondo or the evo 37 moment with Daigo are so awesome and I really enjoy getting to know more of those. So thank you, for this ^^
1:06 honda playing as kasumondo
Great video. I play fighting games, and as someone who's starting sf2 and old games it's hard to get that common scene knowledge that people had growing up playing the game. So much of it just disappeared in the change from board to websites and so on. Maybe at a tournament I'll gleam something from another player but even then! So I find videos like this dope. Thanks man. Keep preaching to the choir. We love it.
i really like how you explain things, ive never personally played ssf2t and im able to understand whats going on bc of the great commentary youre making
I've played fighting games all throughout my life, and even Street Fighter 2 and 2 Turbo. But I'm not well acquainted with all the fighting game terminology and I find it fascinating. I really enjoy tehse vids going over big events in fighting game history and enjoy learning about this entire subculture of gaming that I only vaguely knew about. :D
a little late to the party , but I've never player these games and i find the videos very enjoyable to watch :) keep up
Me too.
Played Street Fighter just about 30 times my hole life, but it is entertaining to watch
You missed a lot over the years then my friend
I've only really ever played super turbo very casually and i liked the video a lot! The part where you analyzed the match up and explained what advantages and disadvantages each character had made me really understand what was going on in the tournament.
Enjoyable video. I don't follow fighting games often but respect the skill and determination involved. Thanks for highlighting this amazing competitive player.
13:34 "DeeJay's got a full stick of butter. Honda's only got like 30 percent of his life."
Full stick of butter. Lmfao!!🤣🤣🤣
That one had me dead af
I suddenly remembered the first time i played street fighter in an arcade. My mom played and she beat me with blanca. Lol
Mom is dead now though.
RIP
Sorry to hear that... But at least you remember her playing Street Fighter with you... Can't say that about a lot of other people around...
you win, perfect!
Great mom. Not every day you heard stories 90s gen ever playing sf arcade with mum. One of a kind
That was unintentionally funny.
Sorry about your mom though. I bet she was the best
I have never played any sf game in my life, yet the way you explained the background of the players and their matchups, strengths and weaknesses was not only easy to understand but also entertaining. Great video
yea, I did enjoy the video. I'm not acquainted with the game in any way when I learned about street fighter, street fighter 4 barely came out yet it was super enjoyable learning about this legendary match. Jm keep the good work man. Love your videos/streams!