This is MADNESS 😱... Freaky Friday (Movie Commentary)
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- Опубліковано 9 гру 2023
- Freaky Friday movie commentary
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It is interesting how the trope of ‘therapist doesn’t know how to relate to or talk to their kid without patronising or psychoanalysing them’ can ring true for some, even if exaggerated here.
For sure, it makes sense - Maria
I've known people IRL who follow this trope - it's based in a common reality (partly because of the prevalence of people that need therapy becoming therapists - this is true).
It makes sense as a kid cause you don’t think about those things…until your older
Jake is absolutely a student - him saying he "works" there is a student job. At my school you could work in the library, front office, or be be a TA for teachers -- all for credit.
Yeah, I've always sworn that was the case, and began questioning EVERYTHING when Sam insisted otherwise, lol.
He's not a student, he's working two different jobs. He might still be 18 or 19, but he's definitely not a student
@killian interesting point there. Hard to work two jobs and still be in high school. Probably possible tho, right?
We got credit and paid a student wage
He's NOT a student! As someone who was a middleschooler when this came out and was obsessed with the BTS on Disney Channel- he was indeed a college-aged TA and not a student. The mom says "He's too old for you", he has keys and access to a teacher's lounge and standardized tests (which a student would never have access to), motorcycle license, is at a more appropriate-age TO date the mom (hence it wasn't a weird, pedo feel to the scene, but natural age gap) and he's old enough to get into the HOB show. Now, I want to remind you this is the early 2000s in America- Lindsay Lohan/ Hilary Duff etc dated CMM and plenty twentysomething dudes, no one there age, and they still worked for Disney because it was NORMAL. Even Demi Lovato etc etc. We are JUST getting to a point in American society where we acknowledge these kind of teen-adult age gaps/grooming (Kylie Jenner trend) are wrong, but no one is enforcing it still. Places like tiktok where you can find borderline child p*rn doesn't help. Go to NY, LA or middle America (where child brides and incest are still legal) and you'll still see these kinds of relationships normalized. Sorry to burst tbe bubble. He a grown ass man in this movie, and they never tried to conceal it.
Two things: one, the whole thing about trading lunches with the detention monitor, they were trying to portray that Anna had been to detention so many times that the two of them had developed a sort of friendship. She even stopped and bought a drink for her. And two, I would love to see you guys react to the more recent musical version that came out in 2018.
That makes sense. I get you👍
Not sure if we’ll be able to do that any time soon, honestly - Sam
Her look was serving Avril Lavigne she even said it herself in a video showing her iconic looks
That totally makes sense! - Maria
Maria tearing up in the part of the guitar solo is so cute🥺 I love that part too🫶🏽
Gets me, yeah 😊 emotional moment, happy to see them working together - Maria
I agree about restaurants. The little "hole in the wall" joints, tend to have the best food. They are small, family-run places.
I love those places 😋 - Sam
Fun fact that song they played in the garage is a cover of “take me away” from lash ( an Australian girl band). I felt bamboozled because for so many years I thought Disney produced a banger haha
“Mr NCIS” 😂 100% how I recognise him too!
As someone that LOVES young children and gives them slack / sympathy / understanding / the benefit of the doubt 90% of the time, I'll just say it: the little brother in this flick is an out-of-control brat who needed FAR more attention / discipline / attitude adjustment than Anna ever did.
EDIT: Typed this only a few minutes into the video, and now during this edit I'm 16 minutes in, so I'm very curious if you two will share the same opinion. (And yes, the mother is a terrible therapist and parent. At age 31 the door situation pisses me off so much more than when I was a teenager. The poor girl has a new stepfather in the house, and a VERY intrusive younger sibling! How is she supposed to get undressed?! This is so gross!)
I hear you. Tess really dropped the ball on parenting and that door thing is crazy 😳 - Sam
Sibling: **literally runs around stealing her underwear and wearing it on his head**
Mom: "Ah, yes, clearly she doesn't need privacy."
I have raised 3 kids through the teenage years and still have 2 more that are getting there. raising teenagers is not easy and sometimes they can be so much that you just dont know what to do. my kids have seriously surpassed some limits with me and I was a single parent after my husband and their father passed away. taking the door may seem unfair but when youre at the end of your rope and its all you got left...?
“This morning was good.. then I got up” lmao mood
Glad I made it to the premiere. Was good fun. Would love to see you both cover 'Just Like Heaven' (2005) with Reese Witherspoon and Mark Ruffalo, at some point. Ta. 🧡
Thanks for being there! Glad you enjoyed it 😊
That's definitely a possibility. We've had Just Like Heaven on the list for a while, so it'd be nice if we can do it at some point - Sam
One of my favorite rom coms.
I still think it holds up.
It has good chemistry between the two leads and the writing is good.
52:24 I think he's a student office assistant; at my school you could work for the school's office or library, doing various tasks, to fill a class period(s). It helped students get work experience for resumes, and they tended to pick students that had an interest in teaching or becoming a librarian. It's usually part of the program that also lets students, in like their senior year, with jobs substitute those jobs in place of classes (you need to have or be almost done with required credits, tho. So that's why you see them typically be seniors.). Like my mother in her senior year really only attended one class at school in the morning and then left for her job the rest of the day. It lets you keep the benefits of remaining a student that graduating early might take away (like my older sister who graduated early could not walk with her class). Plus, being a student office assistant or library assistant meant you didn't have to drive or get a lift to your job besides ever how you got to school~^.^ Jake seemed to also be using it as a way to have two jobs while still being a student~~~
I hear you, makes sense 😊 - Sam
Yeah as a senior in high school I was a TA for the orchestra teacher Mr. Reikow I knew him cuz of my choir teacher Mr Daab was next door and we often say hi to him. It was nice to get to know Mr raikow and learn about music in a way. I also was a choir student and sang a lot and was a soprano for four years in my high school career. It was fun cuz I could eat gum. A lot of students said I was lucky.
We do the same in choir we can’t have gum either.
Seems Jamie did an interview about this movie shortly after doing it and said something about being a big kid at heart herself so this was a fantastic opportunity to just let go and be goofy.
Totally makes sense! - Maria
It always weirded me out that Jake started liking the mom
I don't care that he was attracted to hanna's personality, it's just weird 🤣🤣
I get you. Such an odd choice for the writers to do that lol - Sam
Sappy comment alert ⚠️ you guys are so sweet together, and I just love seeing you together. I'm so glad you found each other. Thank you for making such fun videos. Sending you guys all the good vibes ❤
Thanks so much Lilyrose! That's so nice 😊 Thank you for watching our videos 😁🙏 - Sam
I couldn’t agree more- they are just a drop of happiness in what is such an imperfect world. ❤
@@joshuacoldwater very well put! 😊
Chad Michael Murray is a student. Sine students in the U.S. work for their school. Not so much these days but back in the day. My mom use to work at her school in the office .
Same, I worked one hour a day in the Guidance Office my senior year, because I had extra credits and didn't need to fill any more required classes.
Such a fun movie. Have you guys seen Aquamarine? If you haven’t I think you would be surprised by the theme of the story. Also it was filmed in Australia considering Sam is Aussie haha
We have not. But we’re considering it 😊 - Sam
So fun fact about the detention monitor: the actress apparently was a bitter rival of my grandma’s and at my grandma’s 80th birthday party, my grandma basically forced her to sing and say nice things about her in front of all her friends and our family. It was a fucking power move. I was maybe 10 at the time and remember being confused why the Freaky Friday detention monitor was at my grandma’s birthday party 🤣
Haha it is a fun fact! Thanks! 😂 - Maria
In the 80s and 90s it was much more common to allow younger kids out alone in summer I left at 8 and cam home for lunch if I didn’t take one with me and left or stayed out till the street lights came on on. No cell phones and parents only had a general idea where we were
Sure, but what’s this in response too? Neither of us ever said it was abnormal for kids to be out alone at this time 🤔 - Sam
Not sure if anyone else has mentioned it already, but the stone that your bass pick is made out for looks like brown Tiger's Eye ❤
Sam I feel that Anna doesn’t get enough attention or let alone is listened to as a daughter. I feel for her I can relate.
Speaking as custodian, there is no first shift custodian so he must be coming in at 3pm when detention is in session. 😅 I think that’s how they keep running into each other. If he does work as a custodian for the school and if he’s working at the coffee shop too, he must be part time then because the usual shift for a custodian at a school is 3 PM to 11 PM there’s no way he is going to 2 Jobs in this time span😂. Only in the movies this can happen and be kind of make sense… 😅
5:08 - That looks like Tiger's Eye, to me. And this was during rhe period before proper smart phone, so she had a handful of different devices and multiple phones, looks like (Palm pilots, digital planners, etc) - Also Jake is a student, just likely an upper classman who 'worked' in the office for extra credits or during off periods. A lot ot schools have it as an option, or used to anyway.
I will second that it's Tigers Eye
reciepts: I used to work in a spiritual gift shop and sell Gemstones
My first thought was Tiger's Eye but I didn't get a great look. If there's striations it's Tiger's Eye but if it's just sparkly it's sandstone.
My wife and I refer to her as "the worst therapist to exist"
Good call 😂 - Sam
Cried during the speech lol always gets me every time, the only thing Anna does right aside from the guitar solo lol
I hear you, it’s a good one 😊 - Sam
i definitely had my door taken away a few times growing up lol but it was usually because i was slamming it as hard as possible so it was as much a consequence as it was trying to save the door/frame from damage :P
I was hoping for this one! It’s such a classic!! So happy you guys are watching it ❤
Thanks so much! We hope you enjoy it 😁 - Sam
I love this channel. Maria adds so much. The two of you together is gold.
That is wonderful to hear! Glad to see you here 🙏🏻✨ - Maria
people always take jake being into anna as the mom as weird but it makes sense as he says in that one scene you seem very different now which states he clearly likes annas personality
Just want to say that I would TOTALLY be down to see you two watch One Tree Hill together! It is my all-time favorite show and there is always an audience for those reactions!
Great to hear that! It is one of my all-time as well. So far, I haven't seen OTH reactions do well, but I'm hopeful there's more of an audience for it than it seems - Maria
@samandmariachannel I dont think I would watch a one tree hill reaction normally but from you guys? Given your always are good on calling out bull, giving good insight into relationships romanic and not, and how much I love you music and fashion critique on Buff Summer that makes me want to see your guys reaction to the show.
@@samandmariachannelI watched some Channels that did OtH reactions and its usually did well
I believe your pick is tigers eye. It’s been so long since I have watched this or the previous freaky Friday! It’s fun to rewatch with you.
Also, somehow I feel like the 1976 version is less cringy. The whole reason it is freaky Friday is that it is a wish that happens on Friday the thirteenth, but I don’t think there is the whole Chinese storyline. Also the mom is a stay at home mom I think and it shows the difficulty of that as a job I believe.
You are correct, it’s Tigers Eye 😊 - Sam
I recall I desperately wanted highlights in my hair like Lindsay in this movie when it came out and mum wouldn’t let me. I’m kind of glad now 😂
I can't with those highlights. What were they thinking?!
I had the highlights at the time, but a different kind, more spread out 😁 I get you about these specific once. I would also be glad haha - Maria
@dgirl786 I know, right? That was the time 😅 - Maria
I had those highlights when I was younger 😂 I loved it 😂
wango tango if i remember correct was an event thrown by one of the most popular LA radio stations in the 2000s, so it actually is a pretty big deal that their small “garage phase” band has a chance to audition!
I get you 😊 Anything at the House of Blues would be a big deal. I just think it's hilarious the event is called the Wango Tango - Sam
This was great! I really enjoy your reactions❤
Thanks so much! Happy to hear that 😊 - Maria
I say and quote from Bella swan from twilight ( the book) “ stupid Volvo owner!”
Maria - i think your energy is infectious, you're so positive and i love how much you smile 💚 great review guys
Thank you so much! 😊✨
Edit: Making these videos brings me a lot of joy, and I'm glad it shows 🥰 - Maria
1:08:45 I specifically remember saying “you rock” and “rockin’”, etc. when I was into these movies…and under thirteen.
I should add I was six when I saw this movie in 2004
"Privacy is a privilege, Anna".
I'm pretty sure the right to privacy is actually included in the document the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child but go off I guess, lady...
Really? That's good. People should know the right to privacy is definitely not a privilege - Sam
@@samandmariachannel just found the wording they use "No child shall be subjected to arbitrary or unlawful interference with his or her privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to unlawful attacks on his or her honour and reputation. 2. The child has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks."
@@Jemini4228❤
Glad you guys did this because Jamie & Lindsay are planning on making the sequel to this. You guys are way better than Jamie’s character as a therapist and think on how each age range is suppose to act/think. Especially for relationships and how to make it better. I never watched One Tree Hill because I was a kid when it came out but I heard it is very praised
Thank you, that’s really nice 😊
Maria loves One Tree Hill, so I’d like to get to it at some point, for sure - Sam
One day, I’m definitely going to look at myself and go “I AM LIKE THE CRYPT KEEPER!” just for fun 😂
The song sung by the pink slip is actually a cover of the debut single of an Australian punk band (lash) and I don't remember it jeing mentioned anywhere (Maybe it was on one of the bonuses of the dvd i forgot about)
Also there's a deleted scene where Tess in anna's body punches the mean girl in the face in retaliation and breaks her nose
This was one of my favorites growing up haven’t watched it in forever but glad you two reacted to it! if you do suggestions here’s 3
Juno, The Edge of Seventeen and The Perks of being a wallflower:)
Thank you!
It’s likely we’ll get to those at some point, but for right now the next 10 or so movies are already lined up 😊 - Sam
I will defend that therapy scene with the mom who looked at her daughters diary,
cause anna was right, and it is probably better if that mom doesn't go looking at her kids diary,
yes it's not good therapy but anna is a teenager so she's only going with what she knows.
So my main question, outside their personal phone, would a psychologist/psychotherapist really have/need to have that many other phones?
Hey Sam!!! It’s been a while I commented on here. First of all sorry I had to heal first and wanted to be able to watch this video when I’m a little better.
I can’t believe this came out 20 years ago 😮😂 excellent commentary yall I knew I wasn’t the only one ago thought the mom and Jake’s “relationship” got weird fast
Thanks so much 😊
Yeah, it just felt off lol - Sam
The mystical Asian is in the same boat as mystical stoic "Indian" in movies. I don't know ANY Natives that are stoic/quiet and all mystical. Mostly they tell dirty jokes and giggle like school girls... even grown men. Actually, it's the men who giggle. The women laugh loudly while throwing their heads back. At least in my family. haha
Edit: The actress playing Pei-Pei was doing the accent on purpose as she was born and raised in Orange County, California.
This movie is forever iconic ❤ Lindsey and Jamie ❤
It’s definitely a classic now 😁 - Sam
I love the actress Rosalind Chao who plays Pei Pei. She has been in so much. 100% american accent normally :)
She's not often the main character, but has been acting since the 80s I think. It's funny, watching this now I immediately recognised her from a really small part in What Dreams May Come with Robin Williams. I thought she made such an impact in that 5 minute role. Probably best known at the moment for Mulan.
I actually found it weird that Lucille Soong who plays Pei Pei's Mum does have an accent, but it's very different to the one in the show. Imagine asking someone to change their authentic Asian accent to a stereotypical one. Ugh. I know it was 'of the time' but still frustrating.
She was fantastic in The Joy Luck Club.
Fun little fact I was in one tree hill as an extra, If you decide to do a reaction I will definitely point myself out whenever y’all get to that point.
That’s awesome 😁 if things go well for our channels over the next 6 months or so, I feel like it’s possible for us to do 😁 - Sam
Fun Fact: the guy who plays Lindsay Lohan's love interest in the film is the same guy who plays Austin in "A Cinderella Story". You should watch the original Freaky Friday next with Jodie Foster.
As much as I love this movie and ‘Mean Girls’, we need a serious discussion on Mark Waters’s depiction of Asian cultures. It’s also Disney as well which does not have a good track record with depicting most cultures.
Got this awesome movie on dvd
also i kind of get why anna is still say sup and stuff to ryan,
she doesn't want to try with ryan cause then ryan would try to get affectionate with her or something,
that is my guess,
anna not really into doing her moms stuff cause she thinks she will have to marry him.
also of course they are unsure they will ever switch back,
they didn't really know what the fortune meant still lol
Piercing guns are not only bad because of their bluntness. They cannot be fully sterilised and/or many of the places that use them don't actually have the facilties to do it properly. Many of the staff are basically kids that don't even get first aid trained in case the person reacts badly. I got mine pierced with a gun before I knew any better and it kinda got stuck on one of my ears so it pulled. Better to have it done with a sharp, new needle in an actual peircing and tattoo shop.
All my ear piercings were done with a gun at an actual piercing place. And when I got my first piercing, it was marketed as a safer option. Later on, it was just a normal thing. Knowing now that it's the opposite of a safer option, I'd be happy going with a needle as all my relatives did before me 😁 - Maria
Even better to go to a dedicated piercing studio rather than a combined tattoo & piercing place. Many of those are only experts in tattooing, with piercing as a side thought. Or so I've heard.
Had anna told Jake the truth at the cafe, their relationship would have felt much less wierd
Absolutely! - Maria
23:03 - HUGE TRUTH, the best here in NYC is one of the cheapest and they are just a kitchen- no delivery, no eat-in, you go and pick it up- but man…. Better than 95% of the food on this island
That’s what’s up! - Sam
One tree hill for the win🎉
Absolutely! I really hope we can get to do a whole channel for it. That would be fun as well 😊 - Sam
You guys are rly fun at Partys, aren't you? 😅
This is going to be great! ❤
Hey Rebekah! How's it going? 😄 - Maria
In Britain, the phrase has cliff, instead of bridge.
That pic looks like it could be made form Tiger's Eye? Very cool!
*Highly Recommendation*
React This Movie "RRR : RISE ROSR REVOLT"
*This Movie won All International Award And a song from this film has won an Oscar..*
Jamie Lee kills it in Freaky Friday. What’s crazy is she jumped on the film at literally the last second and still turns it. That’s talent. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
The pick at 5:10 might be tiger eye, but it's hard to tell in the vid
also my dad had an out of body experience during a highschool dance and he said he watched his body still interacting and acting like a like a person, so you don't need to be in your body i guess for it to stand
Jamie Lee Curtis, her musician actor husband Christopher Guest played played guitarists Nigel in the comedy musical Spinal Tab,
Freaky Friday is awesome. Such a great movie. The first time I went to see it was at an advanced screening which was cool but about 1/2 way through the power went out at the theater and that was upsetting. Glad I went back to see it soon after to see how it ends. Classic. I hope they do make a second movie. There has been talk of it and Jamie and Lindsay are both down for it. Let’s hope they make it and make it awesome and not a bust.
Did they refund your ticket or give you a new ticket to see it again? - Sam
@@samandmariachannelgot tickets to see it or any movie we wanted.
ULTIMATE IS ON MY PLAYLIST 😎 (last song)
I watch this movie A LOT lol, i just love the mother daughter relationship and lesson. It is so iconic too💖 Lindsay legend and Jamie too. I heard they want to reboot it but i hope they don't, what is the point.
Did you know that Disney's Freaky Friday is a remake of the black & white movie?
Yes 😊 - Sam
When Anna has though about the florist and such ( well her mother) that’s me at times esp when I gear up for the day before to disneyworld I have lots of thoughts of ok I gotta do this and this and then I’ll be in the airport etc!
I cannot wait for the Sequel! 🥰
Do you mean the one that they recently announced? - Maria
@@samandmariachannel yeah, because I've heard that Jamie Lee Curtis & Lindsay Lohan are returning for the sequel.
I like that there was a prescient way of saying we’re going to be overwhelmed by smartphones like Dr. Tess.
I love One Tree Hill…but I don’t know how you didn’t see it…I watched the first couple of seasons in Australia then I had to get dvds lol
I have no idea. It just wasn’t on in my area after like the third episode. Are you in Sydney? I honestly thought it got cancelled 🤷♂️ - Sam
I meant to make this suggestion on the live stream Sam does most weekends but I guess I missed this past one. Have you guys considered reacting to The Pride and Prejudice miniseries? It's regarded as one of the best adaptations of the book and is popular enough that a joke about it was made in the Barbie movie.
Thanks for the thoughts 😊 yes, we’ve considered it. One of our editors loves it a lot, but we’re not sure when will be a good time for us to do it.
Consider it a maybe for the future. There’s still a lot of other things we want to cover - Sam
This pick looks like tiger’s eye!
You're correct 😊 - Sam
Fun fact: apparently, Jamie Lee Curtis learned how to play the guitar for real for the concert scene. Dedicated actors are my favorite type of actors.
Nice! I’m with you. I love anyone being dedicated to what they do 😊 - Sam
I love OTH and that You talk even a little bit about it 😍 I Will love for You to react to it
I totally missed that Jake was purely an employee, I always thought he was a student who also worked there. Maybe a senior while Anna is 15.
I think he is a student, and just works/volunteers in the office part time.
Yay im so excited for this!!
Me too! 😄 - Maria
always enjoy your commentary! You should check out Superstar! (1999)
Sooo what y’all are saying, is that you’ll give us One Tree Hill reactions..?! Please please please please! I’ll subscribe to any channel ya want!
We really want to! I've been waiting for us to watch it together for ages, but I can wait longer if it means we can do it here all together 🤗
I'm so happy to see the excitement for it 😋 - Maria
2:02 There was a time in my life where I woke up the earliest before I had to go to school. I’m more like Anna now.
I've done both, and now I'm actually waking up earlier, and oh so appreciate that. But, to each their own :) - Maria
Lohan and Curtis actually did learn guitar for this film.
They sure did - Maria
Another gold movie commentary from you two 🤌❤️
Can you guys maybe do a video on Ingrid Goes West? Such a good one and there are literally NO breakdowns of it! 😭😭
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed it ✨
That's probably cause it's more of an indie movie and there might not be a lot of people who even know about it. I remember checking it out but I haven't seen it. If we do it, it wouldn't be anytime soon - Maria
This is the first video of you and Maria I've watched so far and I'm really liking the dynamic
Thanks so much 😊 - Sam
I think your guitar pick is a tigers eye
Guys, please react to One Tree Hill, I would love to rewatch it with you 🙌 Obviously, maybe not possible to do every single episode but maybe just the most pivotal ones ? Anyways, great content, love your comments and reactions 😊👍
I’d love to, it’s just a matter of actually fitting it into the schedule. Tho we’d absolutely do every episode and it would definitely be its own channel. I don’t really see the point otherwise. Right now tho, Maria works on buffy all week and I work on one movie all week. We’d need to be able to afford another editor to join the team and we can’t do that right now - Sam
When I watch this movie as an adult it stands out more how much Tess doesn't listen. In her interactions with Anna she just assumes whatever happened Anna was at fault and reacts. She never talks to Anna's teacher, she just assumes she's lying about him having it in for her. In my experience, those sorts of things can go either way, but it would be wise to check just in case if your kid says their teacher is singling them out. She doesn't ask why she did that to Harry, when the answer is that he lacks respect for Anna's property and Tess should do something about that. She doesn't even entertain the idea that personalities can radically shift between elementary school and high school and maybe Stacy isn't the sweet little girl she remembers. Anna has an attitude, but her mom has this idea of her in her head and it's painfully obvious she doesn't really see her.
Well said 😊 - Sam
That pick looks like tiger's eye. But I could be wrong.
5:05 it's a Tiger's Eye
Sounds like me as a teen moms never understand anything!
One of my fav scenes from the movie is the audition. Like as a little girl I always thought Jamie Lee Curtis was so cool for this scene. I don't know much about instruments now, especially when I was a kid, so for a good portion of my life I thought she was actually playing the guitar.
I hear you haha. I often thought that when I was a kid whenever anyone was playing guitar in movies. It’s probably part of what got me interested in eventually playing it 😊 - Sam
Usually I love your movie reactions on both channels, but you guys tend to dive way too deep into movies in my humble opinion). These movies are not meant to be based in reality, yet you insist on treating them like they are. Also, without these wild and sometimes admittedly outrageous situations/actions/comments the stories would never work. I enjoy watching my favourite movies with you guys!
Yeah at some point you need to settle in and enjoy the ride without the hyper cynical dissection- acknowledge the parts that don’t hold up well and move on 😅 this was an exhausting reaction to watch
26:27 use your head!
35:47 That's gotta hurt!
Last one.
During my senior year, I had a class where I worked in the library and got graded for the work I did.
The more I watch this, I wonder if that is what Jake is doing. So during certain time periods, he works as a TA or something.
Yeah, that’s what Maria was thinking as well 😊 - Sam
“Because I said so,” not a good reason
He's NOT a student! As someone who was a middleschooler when this came out and was obsessed with the BTS on Disney Channel- he was indeed a college-aged TA and not a student. The mom says "He's too old for you", he has keys and access to a teacher's lounge and standardized tests (which a student would never have access to), motorcycle license, is at a more appropriate-age TO date the mom (hence it wasn't a weird, pedo feel to the scene, but natural age gap) and he's old enough to get into the HOB show. Now, I want to remind you this is the early 2000s in America- Lindsay Lohan/ Hilary Duff etc dated CMM and plenty twentysomething dudes, no one their age, and they still worked for Disney because it was NORMAL. Even Demi Lovato etc etc. We are JUST getting to a point in American society where we acknowledge these kind of teen-adult age gaps/grooming (Kylie Jenner trend) are wrong, but no one is enforcing it still. Places like tiktok where you can find borderline child p*rn doesn't help. Go to NY, LA or middle America (where child brides and incest are still legal) and you'll still see these kinds of relationships normalized. Sorry to burst tbe bubble. He a grown ass man in this movie, and they never tried to conceal it.