Massive firmware updates tested! - MSI 32” and 27” QD-OLED monitors
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- Опубліковано 5 січ 2025
- We take a look at the recent firmware updates (FW.010) released by MSI in May 2024 for their 32” MPG 321URX and 27” MPG 271QRX monitors, which offer a massive range of updates, improvements and fixes.
*Update Sept 2024*: we have also since tested their more recent FW.011 firmware which offers some further updates and improvements. You can find that here: • Improved input lag! 😲 ...
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Thanks very much Simon - just got the MSI 32URX and followed your instructions to update the firmware.
The Asus monitor is much better. You do understand that after the last update of the Asus firmware, in fact, you bought a second-class monitor like me
@@bgpsbgps1 which asus?
They mean the PG32UCDM because it’s recently received a firmware update to improve HDR brightness and add Dolby Vision support. Although at this stage it’s not been tested or verified by any reviewers like ourselves. And there’s nothing to say that MSI won’t also update their HDR performance soon, I know they are looking in to it
@@tftcentral i got myself the MSI one last week. have to check later which FW i have running on it
@@jonnyfontane3607 yes, pg32ucdm; other than that: please note that msi definitely has 2 more points:
1. when you look at the screen directly (as usual), the colors are noticeably less bright and juicy than when viewed from an angle (top or left) on the monitor screen.
2. If you set the "night vision" option (reduces excessive darkening in hdr) to the "ai" position - in games with a top view (dota 2, for example, if you move the battlefield away with the mouse wheel on the replay), when moving the screen, light horizontal stripes moving in the direction of the screen movement are observed.
The first point - I am particularly concerned about
Thank you Simon… I haven’t got my hands on one of the latest MSI OLEDs. I tested the AW2725DF which has the best sRGB calibration I have ever seen on an OLED. Next up is the LG 32GS95UX…
Greetings from Igorslab…
Thanks for covering the FW update! I hope the next one also tries to reduce latency when signal is running at lower Hz such as 120 & 60
MPG 321URX QD-OLED has a new FW update FW 0.12
Description:
1. Changing the naming of “Adaptive-Sync” to “FreeSync Premium Pro”.
2. Fixed the frame drop phenomenon in 24.5” and 27” option of Screen Size.
3. Fixed the abnormal image while turn it Optic Scope on at Screen Size 1:1, 24.5” and 27” option.
4. Update the MSI monitor booting logo.
I updated to this FW, now in NCP there is no option to enable G-Sync anymore. On the previous FW 0.11, I always had the option to enable G-Sync.
Is MSI ever going to push a firmware update that allows us to have different color presets per input????? It seems silly to me that this can't be done. OR have different color presets that are separate for both SDR and HDR. It makes no sense why either of these fixes haven't been addressed yet.
Yes, flickering still happens, seen on the loading screen of AC Odyssey. Also, there is a stuck pixel that moves when intended to, at the Ubisoft app password field on the login prompt. These are both present on MSI MPG321URX and ASUS PG32UCDM even with the latest firmware updates. Gigabyte FO32U2P has flickering but no stuck pixel on the Ubisoft password field for their app.
I'm still getting bad VRR flicker in loading screens on games. Also according to the black level test on lagom, the black levels are too dark on every picture mode except Game/Pro User with HDR enabled. There is slight temporal dithering on greys which you can also see on the Lagom black level test. Finally when changing the HDR brightness in windows labled "SDR content brightness" it does seem to inaccurately display white levels with each brightness tick.
In my testing HDR enabled, True Black 400, and Pro User has the most accurate black levels at the cost of temporal dithering while Display P3 has the most accurate color when using HDR at the cost of black levels. Those calibrations would be perfect imo if they could fix the temporal dithering and VRR flicker in the next FW update.
I play a lot of dark games like Dead by Daylight so black levels are an important and often overlooked issue. The screens pretty much unusable for me without HDR because the Night Mode and AI Vision messes with the colors too much and makes the screen look washed out. I almost returned it until I found the above calibration.
Overall I'm pretty happy with this monitor. Its very versatile for a wide range of games and scenarios!
271QRX has trouble switching sources. Connected to the PC via DP 1.4a (rtx 3080) and LG CX via HDMI 2.1. Monitor switching from stand by which is also very slow (3 sec minimum). I have been able to freeze the whole PC switching from primary to secondary screen ( no display out caps lock not responding). Latest firmware.
Great information! Thank you TFTCentral, for your work on these matters. Yet another reason for me to like MSI! Now if we could just get their software to stop wanting to collect our personal info...
One thing I faced. I got a 4090 and using all display port to triple 48GQ900. Left the hdmi port free to use. But after I use a high quality hdmi2.1 which can support 8k 120hz, the Nvidia setting freaks out. It still shown my surround setting which 11520x2160 with 138hz. But my MAG271QX can’t work. It turn off and my display setting always shown this monitor inactive, I can’t active it by clicking in the display setting for unknown reason, even though I click “extend desktop to this display” multiple times. I did update the firmware to the latest FW012 and I can’t see the option of DSC. I also update the monitor driver provided from MSI website. Now I am stuck. 😢 pls help
One BIG unresolved issue: OLED Panel Protect is supposed to run automatically when the display sleeps after 4 hours of cumulative usage, but it DOES NOT RUN in some circumstances! I haven’t been able to nail this down exactly, but on my setup it will never run panel protect until i run it manually, meaning it will ALWAYS hit the 16 hour limit and force itself to run in the middle of my work, unless I remember to run it myself before that point. HUGE HUGE PROBLEM because long gaps between panel refreshes can accelerate permanent burn in and MSI can’t seem to replicate it because their support has told me it is working for them.
This has happened to me on 2 different units, on all firmware versions, and I’ve seen others on Reddit describe the same exact issue so this isn’t just my model! I think it depends on the exact OSD settings you select, and possibly the devices you have connected.
I have a MacBook Pro connected via USB-C, and a PC connected via DisplayPort, and the “power button” setting on “standby” because that will keep usb devices powered when the display sleeps. I also have the Panel Protect Notice setting set to “16 hours” to prevent the 4-hour popup from interrupting me. I’m not sure if it’s a combination of all of these things or something else that is causing the problem, but others have described the Power Button and Protect Notice settings as being the cause of the problem for them.
If you could possibly investigate this further it would be a huge help because MSI doesn’t seem interested in investigating themselves.
I will also say that it seemed to work correctly right after the firmware update, but after panel protect ran automatically once, it failed to run automatically again after that. Like some flag isn’t getting reset properly to trigger the next cycle.
I can confirm that this is/was also happening with me. From what I can tell it always seems to activate if I just leave my PC and let it go into sleep mode, but it doesn't always activate if I just turn it off.
I did turn my power button setting to off and it does seem to consistently be working now but it might just be a coincidence.
@@Game_Crunch There’s gotta be a science to this but it’s so damn hard to test because you have to wait 4 hours to see if it will trigger…
@@Game_Crunch "Power button setting to off" what are you talking about? On the monitor or of the PC? The monitor shouldnt care about the state of the PC
@@haewymetal The monitor has a setting in the OSD called "Power Button", I'm talking about that setting.
@@Game_Crunch I just ordered the MPG 27" so gonna see in a few days if it also has this issue or not. I use my PC for well over 4h a day.
When turning off the power LED, you would no longer see the blinking orange light that indicates the panel refresh is underway, yeah?
Good question. I think it only impacts the power light when the screen is on, not when in standby but not 100% sure
Has MSI discussed anything with you about the 321UPX model getting firmware updates? Monitors unboxed did a video claiming MSI said they are working on bringing firmware updates to that model as well.
We are aware of what Monitors Unboxed discussed at Computex and this is actually something we suggested to MSI a couple of months back. Waiting on official info and details before we report on the situation either way 😀
the 321urx needs a damn price cut in the UK - I imagine that could happen once it drops in 10 days.
It won't. Their strategy is low prices in the US for marketing and getting on the good side of reviewers, but then price gauge in every other region. It's the same thing as Asus.
Dell doesn't do that with the Alienware model but sadly it's curved.
@@houssamalucad753Not even available in America under 1400$ anymore.
Demand is just too high will take a while for price to drop
Exactly@@houssamalucad753
Not just this model, but also their Ultrawide OLED is incredibly overpriced in the UK. Shame cause I had to settle for a worse gigabyte version that costs more than what others can buy the MSI at.
Was it £1100 back then?
Apologies for this potentially stupid question in advance but I just bought the 321UP for my PS5. I will be playing at 60hz and 120hz where possible but there are still some games I’ll prefer to play at 30hz (games with awful performance modes). How would 30fps run on this monitor with such a high refresh rate? Would there be issues as it’s nowhere near the native refresh rate? Thank you.
Any others got problems aswell if you enable VRR/G-SYNC that some games like RDR2 start within a black screen when launching the game? I got the MPG 321urx and am on current firmware. This issue is pretty annoying, since the only solution for me is to turn off VRR completly. Setting up a ruleset in nvidia control panel to not enable GSYNC for games with this problem, does not work. You have to turn it off in the OSD which is annoying.
Try to DDU you drivers. I had that problem with another 4k144hz monitor as well. That solved it for me.
It’s a problem across vrr monitors
is see it’s the same for you, but why is custom resolution unable to be set on the control panel with this monitor?? pls
Great video, thank you!
a new firmware version 0.011 released. Please review it. Any HDR 1000 dimming issue fixes that?
That’s not listed in the change log I’m afraid
@@tftcentral why MSI couldn't solve it? While other manufactures have already solved. As a MSI consumer it's very unfortunate for us.
@shahriarrony9528 well I wouldn’t say anyone has “solved it”. Asus released an update that includes a brighter HDR mode option which behaves like Gigabytes model. But these are brighter at the expense of accuracy. I’d expect MSI to be able to do something similar and I am told they are working on the issue but it’s presumably not ready yet
@@tftcentral thanks for the update. Now nothing to do but to wait.
I second that. Please review the latency claims.
How about the MAG 321UP?
can I download the updates on my Mac? been having trouble with it
I think it’s a PC only app
@@tftcentral how unfortunate. do you have any recommendations for streaming quality on the monitor? for whatever reason, none of my streaming services playback in HD+ when I use the monitor and I've tried different browsers
What do you do if the control panel only offer 60-120 Hertz ?
I don't quite understand, Displayport 1.4a should be enough for 1440p/360hz? The monitor only supports 1.4a 🤔
It can support 1440p at 360Hz fine (the MPG 271), but you need to have DSC enabled for that
@@tftcentral Oh OK, then I misunderstood. Thanks for the clarification 💪🏻
@@tftcentral But without DSC are you sure it's only 120hz for 1440p ? Shouldn't be it 240hz ?
I have this monitor with the 4080 super, I can’t find the DSC setting anywhere. Looked in monitor settings, NVIDIA control panel and regular NVIDIA app.
@@-MeTeC- its 240
i’m confused I have this monitor and using HDMI 2.1 with the latest update with 4080. on display setting I have it set to 360hz this with my second monitor oled g9 240hz. so even tho it’s set to 360hz my games are not running that with DSC on?? and will require to create custom res just to get 360hz with these monitor??
Unless you’ve disabled DSC from the monitor OSD, it will be running with that enabled. You wouldn’t have been able to select 360Hz otherwise either. Sounds like you’ve got it set up correctly as far as I can tell
I would love it if you can recommend settings for the MSI G274QPX model too. :D
thanks for the vid. apparently my GTX1070 doesn't support DSC, so when I choose 4k 120 over DP1.4 it kicks it down to 6-bit, but if I turn DSC off, I get 8 bit but with YPbCr244 color depth. not sure which option would be better. dont see a difference in videos, games, or text. i would think this would rule out 120hz for me, but I cannot for the life of me see any difference between 6 bit and 8 bit in SDR. even when I pull up those fancy high quality HDR demonstration videos from Eugene Belsky or whoever, or if i run specific tests for banding i don't see any diff. weird.
That’s because when it’s running 8 bit it’s also using chroma sub sampling at 4:4:2 which causes loss of colour detail too, so prob ends up looking overall the same as just using the 6-bit depth but at full 4:4:4 chroma.
I think if I were you I’d use this as a great opportunity to treat yourself to a new card for Christmas 😀
@@tftcentral Oh yeah now I have a good excuse to upgrade. Also Windows 10 going EOL. So if I had a newer card, I could get 4K/120 with 8-bit and 10-bit depth, but with DSC right? And with HDMI2.1 I can get it without DSC? Thanks for the response!
Well you could get 4K 240Hz in fact with a new card using DSC (I assume you’ve got the MPG321URX)
I just read about he mandatory Panel protect which seems annoying (and aside price is a major hurdle preventing me from buying it). Why not just have at least the option to have it made daily at a pre-selectable time, say 4:00 A.M.? That should sufiice for 99,9% of people i think.
Hey. Is there any chance you're going to review the new g60sd Samsung? Struggling to find reliable info about it and in my country (UK) there's some great offers that expire in just a few days
No current plans I’m afraid. May review their 32” G80SD though
When will 4k 360Hz be a thing? Should be possible with DSC and DP2.1a (DP80). I think that would be much better compared to the dual mode screens.
Sure it will come at some point but until graphics cards and DisplayPort 2.1 have matured, it will likely be a while
Someone PLEASE, answer will really help me! I've tried to find info about that but no luck with it. I really need to know if its possible to set up optix scope feature in keybinds (tab in gear icon section). And if i can do so does it gives me option to activate optix scope by pressing keyboard/mouse button by simply pressing it or this keybinds mean that i can bind it just to monitor joystick?
I'm surprised, the monitor has a display port version 1.4a and should work with it in 4k 120hz and 10bit, but I understand that this is not the case and I need to use an HDMI cable version 2.1?
Assuming you mean the 32” model and from a Pc here. But no, you can use displayport 1.4 fine for 4K 240Hz using the DSC feature. The lower refresh rates discussed in this video are for if you wanted to specifically disable DSC
@@tftcentral Ah i see, ty.
Can I update the monitor by connecting it to a laptop with an HDMI cable? Or should I connect it to a computer and a DisplayPort cable?
( I don’t have pc )
Did firmware updates drop for the MAG versions?
Details here tftcentral.co.uk/articles/msi-bring-firmware-update-support-to-the-mag-series-27-and-32-qd-oled-monitors
I am looking to buy the UPX 321 32”. I want it for DuaLUse Photo Editing in Adobe RGB and Gaming in other color spaces.
In the Adobe RGB it is a Menu Option but I can’t find any information on what % of that color space is available? Also I have a pro color calibrator but have been told by MSI that the calibration is locked and I can’t calibrAte the monitor.?
This is important for creators for accurate White Balance and Accurate Color Reproduction of Colors on a Monitor or for Printing Images. Can you address this. I have spoken with three people in Tech Support at MSI and they can’t seem to answer. The seem to know gaming features but little or no understanding of color space you the monitor has an Adobe RGB setting in the Monitor Menu also nothing about pro level monitor calibration? Any help or information would be greatly appreciated by me.
Do you mean the MAG 321UPX or the MPG 321URX? Check out our review of the MPG model here which includes measurement of the Adobe RGB preset mode at around 14:30.
32" 4K OLED Gaming is here and it's amazing! - MSI MPG321URX Review
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It has a good emulation of that colour space available but the OSD controls are largely locked so it won’t let you customise it beyond the default setup shown in the measurements there. If you need further flexibility you could use your calibration tool to profile the native /custom mode, allowing you to define a different gamma and colour temp if you needed to, while profiling the native colour space back to Adobe RGB too
Did the MSI MPG 341CQPX have the new sub pixel layout? Did you get any news about that?
Info here. Full review coming soon too
tftcentral.co.uk/news/an-update-and-correction-for-the-new-34-ultrawide-240hz-qd-oled-panel
Unfortunately bad news
Thanks for your article.
Did you know an IPS black version in 34"? I would like to buy an ultra-wide, but for gaming and software development too. So text clarity would be important for me. Unless it is with the new pixel structure layout, I will instantly buy it. And my RTX3070 cannot handle a 32" 4k 😅
@darktrouvus1 there’s the Dell UltraSharp UW3423WE
my MPG271qrx keeps going into green blue red white colors if i tab out of games or sometimes even move my window from one screen to another does anyone know how to fix this?
Strange. I assume you’ve updated to latest firmware? I’d maybe try another cable, or a different connection if your graphics card has both DP and HDMI 2.1
MSI has once again updated the firmware to version 011. Will you test it too? :)
Possibly yes. Nothing firm yet
any news about 1440p 480hz w-oled?
I believe the panel is now in mass production but I’d still predict Aug/sept for product availability
@@tftcentral thx very much
Has anyone tried adding a polarizer on top of the QD-Oled? will this solve the problem of purple black in ambient light ?
How about VRR Flicker? Does new firmware fix it?
It’s discussed in the video
Hey mate could you please make a video on updating the driver soft ware. I seen you updated the firm ware but this monitor also needs a driver apparently.
Also I'm hoping this will fix my issue being stuck at 120 hertz.
A monitor driver never really does anything useful I’m afraid. Which screen do you have from their range? And what graphics card do you have?
@@tftcentral Thank you for the reply.
I have- MSI 27in WQHD QD-OLED 360Hz Adaptive Sync Flat
Gaming Monitor (MPG 271QRX QD-OLED)
My Graphics card-GTX 970, But as of Monday that will be an rtx 4080 super going in.
If I can not get the hz to work properly I will Probably go to the trouble of paying a tech to do the work.
@sgtcaco ok cool, it’s the graphics card that is restricting you there then as the RTX 970 is too old to support anything higher as it doesn’t support DSC. you should be fine from Monday with your new card 🙂
Oh mate, thank you so much for your help. I really owe you one and want to show my appreciation.I might have to send you a donation if that is possible.
I also got die 27" monitor and installed that firmware update.. but I got a problem - when DSC is disabled in monitor, the screen gets black for a second and switches back to normal. This happens at irregular intervals and I have this every minutes. When activating DSC again in screen menu, problem is gone. Any tips?
I’d probably try a different cable first off. Or lower your refresh rate a little as it could be an issue with pushing the limits of DSC-off
Hello mate I don’t have dp on pc I have any other way to update the fw thank u
Not sure if using hdmi would also work. Main thing you need is the usb connection back to the PC I believe
@ I connect with hdmi and usb it’s saying need a dp for it and what’s muc mean thank you m8
Will you be testing the (MSI MAG 321UP)?
Hello,
I’m getting some conflicting information on updating these MSI monitors. Apparently, you cannot update the monitor unless you have a PC with a dedicated graphics card. A basic PC with integrated graphics will not work. Is that true?
I’ve not seen that specified but it’s not something I’ve tested. The screen def needs to be connected to the pc via USB. beyond that, MSI say you need to send video over DP, but I don’t see a reason why that would need to be from an external card as opposed to pc integrated/CPU integrated. I also can’t really see a reason why it needs to be DP and not HDMI tbh unless some data is also sent over the DP connection
@@tftcentral Alright, thanks. I’m still waiting on a response from MSI support. I just figured I’d ask around in the meantime.
The issue with that, for me, is that I don’t currently own a gaming PC. I have a basic mini PC that’s good enough for what I need at the moment. I was going to use the monitor with that and, primarily, a PS5. But if my basic PC can’t actually update the monitors firmware, I guess have no choice but to return the monitor.
(To clarify, the monitor has been purchased and is currently in the process of shipping. I never would’ve guessed that this would be a potential issue.)
@@tftcentral Hey, have you ever dealt with MSI customer support? If so, how was it?
To update my current situation with them, I’ve had their web ticket support tell me that integrated graphics would not work to update the monitor firmware. But their live chat support said updating the monitor with an AMD mini PC would be fine. Sure.
I then asked the web ticket support why live chat would tell me it’s fine to use a mini PC, and they closed the web ticket without response. I opened a new ticket today, asking if they could clear up this confusion, again mentioning what live chat said, and they immediately closed the new web ticket. No response beforehand. Nothing.
I’ve no idea why they’re being so sketchy about this, but it’s incredibly frustrating and seems like a significant red flag. This is my first experience dealing with MSI support. Not exactly ideal.
Have you received the screen yet? You could just test it out when you receive it, see if it’s ok and if not, and it’s a deal breaker for you, return it then?
@@tftcentral Not yet. Much like most Canadian packages at the moment, it’s been stuck in transit for a while. It might arrive next week.
I’m not at all impressed with their customer support, so I’m not sure about keeping the monitor. They can’t even give me a straight answer on something they’re being oddly cagey about. I guess I could give it a go anyway. It qualifies for Amazon’s holiday return date, so I have until January 31st to send it back.
Hello again ^^ sorry for the specificity of this question but for a dual monitor setup (one gaming, one having shows/sports/streams/UA-cam or displaying chats and OBS, what would you recommend?
Will there be a firmware update for the lg dual mode monitor?
No idea I’m afraid
Why is there no console and PC mode on the 32 inch version?
Because it’s natively 4k and that mode was only used on the 27” to ensure virtual 4K mode appeared properly for modern consoles in the monitors EDID. It’s not needed basically on the 32” 4K model 😀
I did the firmware update still had bad black flickering while in HDR I returned and kept the gigabyte AORUS FO32U2P no issues at all
FO32U2P had bad flickering in my experience too on Nvidia 4090. One thing good about it though is that there is no stuck pixel on the Ubisoft app login password field which is present on mpg321urx & pg32ucdm
Maybe because you didn't activate the VRR on the Aorus ? Or did you enable VRR on both of them and the issue is only happening on MSI ?
@@ceuser3555 I'm running a 4090 also didn't have that issue with the AORUS FO32U2P HDR looked great to was just hoping to save extra money by going with MSI MPG 321URX
I noticed that when playing on fps mode the picture looks with high contrast and also high sharpness mode,why is that?
That’s just how that preset has been configured
@@tftcentral is there any setting I can turn off to get rid of how grained it looks?
@Legitshooter how grained it looks? Can you elaborate a bit more and in what situations you mean?
@tftcentral when I switch to fps mode the image looks exactly like when you over do image sharpening
@Legitshooter ah ok I see. Well that’s what that preset mode is designed to do as it has a raised sharpness setting. But if you don’t like the appearance of that mode, use one of the others instead. They’re only presets for colour, sharpness etc so find one you prefer. Or if it’s a model we’ve reviewed you will probably find a best settings guide from us on this channel anyway to try.
We should get an update to be able to change gamma settings.
how do you apply the best setting config? file
I understand DSR off will limit hz to 240, i would like to play pubg in 1728*1080 so therefore i have to turn dsc off in order to customise resolution in nvida panel, would you let me know if 1728*1080 is one of the pre-set solution in nvida panel? thanks so much for your info and if any advise.
We don’t have access to the screen any more to check but I’m pretty certain that isn’t a default resolution option
@@tftcentral thanks a lot, i returned my aw2725df last week for getting that msi one, despite i might need to do that resolution with just 240hz, it has the firmware update to turn DSC off (which aw2725df donesnt), hope it will be a good move
you recommend using hdmi for the 27 inch? at 240 hz with disabled dsc or dsc on at 360hz?
Always better to leave DSC on and push the max refresh rate and settings. Only need to turn that off if you specifically want to use a feature, or have a bug, which isn’t available in DSC mode
Heyy, I just got a new 271QRX monitor and im wondering if i should use the sent HDMI2.1 cable or buy a DP1.4 cable to use the monitor on my PC
Either is fine so as long as your GPU has an HDMI 2.1 output, and you don’t need the HDMI connections for anything else, you might as well just use that
Simon, would it be possible to start including 120hz input lag in your reviews as well? Seems like it would be important for anyone wanting to hook a console up to a monitor. I do not have one, but I assume the PS5 and Xbox Series X run in 120hz mode and use VRR (if enabled) to cap down at 60/30fps instead of setting the display itself to 60hz.
Also, I recently went down the rabbit hole on 60hz input lag because I was confused about when (if at all) it mattered on PC. You clarify that when VRR is enabled, you will get the 240hz input lag... I'm glad you clarify this because I did not realize this previously... HOWEVER, some games actually do force your monitor to run at 60hz when playing in fullscreen mode, giving you significantly worse input lag. The prime example of this is any game by Fromsoftware, like Elden Ring. There are a few janky ways around this that I won't get into (I can elaborate further if anyone wants to know), but at the end of the day none of them are perfect solutions and it is just flat out more enjoyable to play Fromsoftware games on my 65" LG C2 as opposed to my PG32UCDM solely because of input lag. I never thought that an additional 10ms would be noticeable, but it is shockingly noticeable.
Anyways, would it be possible to express to your contacts at MSI and ASUS that they need to address 60hz and 120hz input lag? I don't see why it can't be the same sub 1ms that is there at the max refresh rate, especially when you consider the price tag of these monitors and the fact that most other monitors do not have this issue -- perhaps they could try to implement something akin to LG's "Boost" input lag mode on their TVs, where the monitor performs frame doubling (or in the case of 240hz, what would be frame quadrupling) to get very similar input lag compared to max refresh rate. I understand that the scaler for these QD-OLEDs provided by Samsung display is probably limited in what can be modified by the monitor manufacturer, but we've seen with the PG32UCDM that they are able to provide additional features that others have not, so I would find it hard to believe they are unable to fix the input lag -- my guess is they just didn't see it as an actual issue, but it is.
I’ll look in to whether we can include 120Hz results in the future as well. I know MSI and Asus are aware of the challenges with increased lag at lower refresh rates but this seems to be a pattern across all monitors really (those with a natively higher refresh rate anyway) so it may be challenging to address
Having this monitor I encountered a problem that sometimes small white lines blink all over the screen, they are mostly visible on black, do you know how to solve this problem?
Are you on the latest firmware? Which model do you have? I’d suggest trying a new cable either way
@ i have mpg 271q,yes sure,thank you will try
How do I turn on console mode? I can’t find the toggle
It was only added to their 27” model but it’s only needed if you experience problems like for instance missing resolution options. I’d guess you’re using one of their different models are you?
Has there been any news about the 2025 OLED panels from both Samsung and LG? apart from the videos uploaded a few months ago.
Nothing more recent I’m afraid. Hoping for some Samsung news soon
@@tftcentral thx very much
I have an older pc with a 1080ti and i cant figure out how to get 240hz on hdmi (only shows 60hz or 120hz), anyone help? Also i dont get an option for 10 bit, only 6 or 8
I’m afraid your graphics card is too old. It doesn’t have HDMI 2.1, that only got introduced from the RTX 3000 series onwards. So you won’t be able to reach any more than you’re seeing
@@tftcentral appreciate the reply :)
I also wanted to ask your opinion on the use of SDR and HDR. From the point of view of using it in games or viewing content, if the content does not support HDR, do I have to constantly switch to SDR?
I’d recommend it. Only enable HDR in windows when viewing actual HDR content
@@tftcentral ty.
Hey is it possible to do the firmware updates on the msi mag 271qpx while on ps5 or can i somehow connect it to a laptop or do i just need a pc for it?
A windows laptop will be fine, or a PC
Is there any possible way to update without the DP? As my laptop does not have it unfortunately.
The MSI guidance says to use DP, but I expect the actual update is communicated with over the USB connection and so HDMI could work for the video signal. But we don’t know for sure and couldn’t recommend that. Prob best to contact MSI to get advice on this
I hope so it will come msi mag 341cqp as well .
It's very annoying hdmi 4k 120hz forcing to use it on some games
hello, yesterday I installed this monitor 26.5" MSI MPG 271QRX QD-OLED, I want to ask how to connect it, via hdmi (in the package) or DP, I connected it via hdmi, it seems to go to 360hz, I already he also updated it and the setting you gave is also OK for this firmware? I see that there is also a link to the profile settings with your settings.
It doesn’t really matter which one you use as long as your graphics card has HDMI 2.1 output and everything works. Which it sounds like it does. Yes the best settings are fine for the latest firmware too, as is the ICC profile
@@tftcentral I have a 4070 ti gigabyte aero graphics card, it has hdmi 2.1 and DP 1.4 and in addition to that setting, it creates a different profile and when I change it everything will be set according to yours?
@milangajdos1377 either connection is fine then yes. If you’re wanting to use the calibrated ICC profile then you also need to follow the steps in our best settings video to get the monitor to its optimal settings as well
is it possible on the MAG 271QPX QD-OLED E2 to push the Firmware Update
I don’t believe so on that model
Hey Simon!
Shouldn't DP1.4 be able to output 1440p 10bit up to 200Hz with DSC turned off? I mean, that's a 25.12 Gbps requirement for a 25.92 Gbps HBR3 bandwidth.
I wonder this as well
Hello TFTCentral! I wanted to ask, I haven't moved into buying an OLED monitor because I'm looking for a pure-black monitor that doesn't tint (looking at LG panels due to the purple-tint), since I do color-sensitive work in well-lit rooms, and that is ideally, but not necessarily, glossy. Do you know when a 32" might come out that supports LG's new RGWB pixel-layer array? I might aim for this one instead. Thank you for responding!
EDIT: I noticed ASUS released a 27" glossy WOLED, but do you know if they'd be releasing a 32" glossy WOLED? That would be game-changer. Thank you!!!
There’s already a couple of monitors released or announced using the 32” WOLED panel with RGWB layout, but do you mean one with a glossy finish?
@@tftcentral Thank you for replying. Yes! Glossy finish, 32", WOLED with RGWB layout.
@azaeldrm no plans from LG Display at this stage to produce a natively glossy panel in that size, but it could happen later on if their 27” option is popular. I wouldn’t rule it out. In the mean time Dough are going to launch a gorilla glass coated version of that very panel with their Spectrum Black 32”, so maybe worth looking in to as an option
@@tftcentral Perfect. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
Great video TFT! I would like to know if there will be Samsung OLED 480hz screens in the near future, at least one roadmap of the same to see if it is worth waiting for. The bright screen catches my attention, and LG's saturated price (U$1200) discourages. Do you believe that in January (1 year after the launch of the 360hz qd-oled) it can come?
It’s very possible as they’ll want to keep up and compete but we’ve not had any official information on it so far so we can’t be certain. Glad you enjoyed the video 😀
Can you turn off pixel shift on this one? And does it have dcc/ci like asus 480hz monitor?
No you can’t turn off pixel shift. Can’t remember re the other question, check their spec page and/or user manual online
I succesfully installed the new V.022 Firmware Update for my MAG274QRF-QD... but then the monitor turned itself off and its been bricked since. This is not my first time installing firmware updates on this model. Any advice for a fellow enthusiast as far as what steps to take next? RMA was denied as the warranty ended over a year ago. Its an amazing monitor otherwise... Subscribed!
Gosh and it won’t power on at all even without a PC connected? Like with another device or something?
@@tftcentralThe monitor doesnt even have a power light with the ac power cable installed... The Firmware update said installed succesfully and then black screen, powered down and never saw power since. The MAG274QRF-QD model seems to have a lot of these issues from forums that Ive read online... but MSI still refuses to replace it or do anyhting on their end. My product is out of warranty but with this many cases I dont find it acceptable at all their response. I installed the newest update V.022 from May 2024... Ive never had an issue installing firmware updates before... including with this monitor until the most recent update. Go figure they released a newer V2 of this model just recently... 🐟🐠🐡
should I turn on adaptive sync on the monitor setting? or leave it off and have g-sync enabled in nvdia settings? or have it enabled with adaptive sync on?
Gsync would only work and be available if you have adaptive sync enabled in the OSD as well
can someone clarify cause im a total noob when it comes to this stuff.
Is it not possible to make use of the 240hz on the 4k display with either display port 1.4 or hdmi 2.1 ?
It absolutely is possible, but will require you to leave DSC enabled on the monitor. That’s a visually lossless compression technique that supports 4K 240Hz over both those connections. Obv you will also need a modern graphics card capable of supporting all this too
@@tftcentral i have a 4070ti ...i was worried for a sec since I bought the msi 32". Thanks a lot :)
@phatape yeah you’ll be fine! Enjoy 😀
I downloaded the ICC profile from the website for my 271qrx, is this the best choice for gaming? And any recommendations for nvidia/windows colour settings? Or leave default?
Leave windows and NVIDIA colour settings alone if you want the most accurate performance. Pair the ICC profile with the listed recommended OSD settings in the database.
From there you could make some tweaks to some of the gaming settings if you want but you’ll prob have to experiment
Thank you.
How do I update if I have a ps5 with no computer. Can I use the new iPad or a laptop? Or does the ps5 allow it or can you do it through the monitor?
You’d need a windows laptop or pc for it
Hey Simon, what's your take on ppi 4k 32 inch vs 27 2k inch? I've been using 4k for some years now and I'm afraid I'll notice in games the difference? is it really noticeable when it comes to oleds?
I think if you’re used to the density of a 4K monitor, you’ll find it a step backwards if you move to something like a 1440p 27”. Add to that the potential text clarity issues you might notice due to the OLED pixel structure and I think you’d be much safer looking for a 32” 4K model
Dissapointed with 321urx - too dim. Very bright for small percentage of screen area, but if you have a pdf with lots of whites the screen dims down like crazy in brightness, to a degree where it is annoying. It is like as if you where going from 80% brightness on a normal screen, and down to 15% just because a larger amount of the screen needs to be bright.
The simple solution to that is to not use HDR mode for that kind of content. You should only enable HDR when viewing actual HDR content. In SDR operation the screen has uniform brightness at all window sizes so you’d never see dimming as you change content or window sizes 😀
@@tftcentral Thanks! Sorry for not knowing this - i thought the panel always reducing brightness regardless of HDR/SDR, but now I know better
Thanks for the best UA-cam content about monitors /from sweden.
@droneforfun5384 no worries, glad to help clear it up 😀
The firmware has to be downloaded manually? Which year is it? 2004?
It’s not that difficult 😉
You mean connect monitor to the internet? Its like, +WiFi module, +OS for antivirus and firewall protection? How much do you want to spend on monitor? 3-4k$?
@@monolith757 No, I meant having an app do the downloading.
@@FiveFiveZeroTwoyou get what you pay for. Another bloatware to consume system resources.
Thanks for great video! Which of the latest QD Oleds are the brightest and most colorful for HDR? I had the Asus PG32UCDM and the HDR was so lacklustered, it was too dim in bright scenes.
The Gigabyte AORUS FO32U2P would be your best bet. See here tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/gigabyte-aorus-fo32u2p
Will you cover the new Samsung Odyssey g80sd monitors?
Not sure at this stage I’m afraid
Great and informative video. Thanks
Are these still the best monitors ,looking for a new monitor for the ps5 pro.
Yeah still excellent screens especially in N America where their price is super competitive
My thing is if i want to buy this for xbox series x do i constantly need to update? What if i dont own a PC?
You can’t update the firmware without a Pc but I’d say it’s unlikely there’d be lots of updates that would be relevant /useful past a certain point tbh. It’s not like it needs constant updates for major things but there’s been a few big improvements so far you’d want to be able to install
I wonder if it will be do-able from Linux or thumb drive someday. For now i have a reason to keep a Windows 10 machine around. Solid warranty, good US pricing, and nice hardware makes that 32" tempting. Disabling the power led is great! Does VRR at all show up if i just want to try and focus on locked 120hz? Id expect not. I ask as i want to get an oled, but i do suffer from Simulation Sickness and some of the stuff i find to help is smooth, no taring, and I'd expect flicker would be painful
If you disable adaptive sync and use a fixed refresh rate there won’t be any flicker :)
@@tftcentral Thanks for confirming this!
Thank you for this video
Which is better for competitive gaming Asus pg24qp or OLED 480hz ?
Ty very much!
What about on console should I follow the same steps?
You need a pc to be able to update the monitor firmware
Any updates on a LGs 45” 5120 by 2160 oled?
Not yet
Great content and I am happy Msi listen and try to improve. Hope they continue this. We need more quality on the producer side of Gaming Equipment. The lost of evga as a gpu manufacturer with the warranty for 7-10 years was a big lost. Let’s hope Msi will develop his kpi in the customer service department to separate itself from f.e. Asus who try to foul his customer in service and rma
This or the Alienware 4K 240hz?
I dont know whats wrong with the link but its loading like and not giving me to download the firmware, besides that i didnt get the usb cable in the box :D
try going to their product page separately and see if you can get to it that way
@@tftcentral yeah it worked, but i dont see the usb connection on my monitor am i triping or what? only got 2 hdmis dp and usb c
@PulzeWZ have you got the MAG model?!
yes i got this exact model MSI MAG 271QPX QD-OLED 27" 16:9, QD-OLED Gaming Monitor, 360Hz 0.03ms, 2560 x 1440 (WQHD), Height Adjustable Arm
@PulzeWZ ok I’m afraid the MAG series models don’t support firmware updates at this time. This video only applies to the MPG series
So I play Pubg exclusively with a 4090
Would this be the best glossy Oled to buy
(Even though I can’t find one to buy😅)
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Would you still recommend this monitor for gaming and some productivity? I just don’t see how I can justify spending hundreds more on an Asus. I see it only has Adaptive Sync and it isn’t certified but that shouldn’t matter right?
Yeah they both support adaptive sync and the lack of certification is a minor concern i would say for a mainstream manufacturer like this. If you can get us substantially cheaper then it’s def a great option!
@@tftcentral Asus is $1299 and the MSI is $949 so big difference. It looks like it does have Freesync Premium Pro so I should be fine with my 4080 I think. My worry is burn in. I was going to use it as a daily driver for work and gaming but after watching Monitors Unboxed deliberate burn in videos with this monitor, I might use it strictly as a gaming monitor. It seems everyone has very different experiences with burn in.
@Junga1234 don’t worry about VRR, the support should be the same from both. MSI just haven’t sent theirs through nvidias process. That cost saving is a no brainer. With burn in, I wouldn’t worry about some work, you just need to be mindful of prolonged static elements. There’s lots of mitigation features on the MSI to enable, and it has a 3 yr burn in warranty too 😀
@@tftcentral well…here goes nothing…ordered!
@Junga1234 let us know how you get on!
Oh, these news got me excited, but what a disappointment on that input lag figure at 60 Hz for the 32 inch model. I found it strange at the time and was doubtful, but retained some hope still. It was too good to be true, after all.
Anyways, good for MSI on commiting to softeare improvements and optimisation on their products.
And, of course, huge thanks to you for all your amazing work helping consumers get informed and prompting manufacturers to put up some good work to an invaluable benefit to everyone! 🙏🏻
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it
how update firmware? I have MAG 271QPX QD-OLED with version FW.010 i try It tells me "update failed" It is not clear to me if the DP is from the monitor to the GPU or if the DP to the MB is from the monitor. I already tried both ways with the DP cable and in no way did it update me. and gaming intelligence is not compatible with my monitor
same issue here "update fail!!!" dont know what to do
@@jackal7301you have to send it to msi xD.
Under 0.13 u cant upgrade yourself xD
I finally managed to snag a 321URX from that last batch of stock. Just got the shipping confirmation today. I'm really excited 😁👍
Stock where?
Is it necesarry to use display port for update? Or enoght with HDMI 2.0 ?
The guidance from MSI says to use DisplayPort so I wouldn’t like to recommend anything else tbh
Amazing, I was going to skip over this monitor until I found this video. Fantastic work from MSI, all previous expereinces with their products has been pretty good and I expect this one to be too.