BATTLING THE IRA & LOYALISTS IN TROUBLES-ERA BELFAST | SAS & DET. SURVEILLANCE OPERATOR Mick Hawkes

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  • @boots869
    @boots869 3 місяці тому +7

    Quite a character Mick. Working in a very challenging environment. Thank heavens for the enduring peace for all the population.

  • @joelpiroecansniffagoal
    @joelpiroecansniffagoal 3 місяці тому +5

    I've watched two of these podcasts now, both excellent, very good questions and allows the guest to fully answer them. The interviewers ability is as important as the guests willingness to be candid. Great work.

  • @Steven_tatman
    @Steven_tatman 3 місяці тому +4

    Excellent documentary. Very interesting hearing Nick Hawkes side of things, he is a very good speaker. 👍🇬🇧🇬🇧

  • @shanekinsella1606
    @shanekinsella1606 3 місяці тому +18

    Good honest interview. Im a republican. But i could have a pint with him. We were soldiers as much as he was.

    • @markyinbelfastxx9088
      @markyinbelfastxx9088 3 місяці тому +6

      Lol really ??? Wise up

    • @ProfileP246
      @ProfileP246 3 місяці тому +1

      🤣

    • @BradleySherlock-n4x
      @BradleySherlock-n4x 3 місяці тому

      No you wernt. Drug dealing gangster's is what you were.

    • @Glasgow_1123
      @Glasgow_1123 3 місяці тому +3

      Aye you done nothing pal don’t say “we”

    • @shanekinsella1606
      @shanekinsella1606 3 місяці тому +3

      @Glasgow_1123 pal...i was a troubles child. I was brought by a proud Irish and still to this day, a well-respected family who were never afraid to go out after our enemies.
      We were hunted...
      You can hide and use your throw-away comments. We scored a lot of goals yet cried more than most.
      Thank you, Mr Glasgow
      Pity you never got to see what i saw. Im Proud Irish Man🇮🇪✌️☘️
      I can tell you weren't even born during the troubles.
      Rest now, child.....

  • @JoeFarrell-e3f
    @JoeFarrell-e3f 3 місяці тому +7

    The Hammersmith incident referred to was the shooting of Diarmuid O Neil who was shot dead by the Mets SO19 in a hotel room. It was alleged by the Met that O Neil and his ASU had been preparing 10 tonnes of ordnance, larger then anything previously seen and on par with the MOAB ordnance in the arsenal of the likes of the US and Russian military. A recording of O Neil has him talking about a seven ton device. There is an audio recording of the Mets SO19 forcing entry into the hotel room with manual force rather then using breaching rounds. O Neil subsequently shouts he is unarmed and he surrenders, he is then shot dead. Was there malice involved ? I don't think so, SO19 are in my opinion not a division 1 elite unit in terms of what they do, as the entry showed, I suspect red mist then descended on the officer who shot O Neil. After this incident an SAS trainer stated that SO19 candidates should undergo psychometric testing. It was a very similar incident to the shooting of John Charles De Menezes at Stockwell. It was alleged 14 INT/COY/SRR were involved in the surveillance, once again the poor outcome was most likely down to poor training and poor communication and tradecraft between different agencies. The above speaker talks of his short attention span, so how did he end up doing surveillance? I suspect many in the army simply put themselves down for courses to break up the monotony and get through.

  • @Upthemags5115
    @Upthemags5115 3 місяці тому +11

    I served in Crossmaglen&londonderry/derry, and I looked at the ira as soldiers...they where a Well-oiled machine.

  • @thegoodlistenerpodcast
    @thegoodlistenerpodcast  3 місяці тому +8

    (The first 30 mins or so are a little choppy due to wifi problems but completely fine after that.. apologies and thank you)

    • @shanekinsella1606
      @shanekinsella1606 3 місяці тому

      Pal....great podcast. Keep up the long forms if possible.

  • @Sj-dt6vo
    @Sj-dt6vo 3 місяці тому +6

    Show respect to the real men who actually served in the SAS I doubt any resemble this story teller.

  • @gerardhenry5501
    @gerardhenry5501 3 місяці тому +1

    I listen to a lot of special forces guys talking on UA-cam and mick is the best by far . He has a lot of info which is correct and he seems honest about it . Well done for a great podcast .

  • @anthonydonlan3140
    @anthonydonlan3140 3 місяці тому +4

    Did he just imply THAT his first tour was so quiet because his regiment was that good the local PIRA units said let's wait for some one less professional to deal with... there was no republican operations... where did we leave that kryptonite... ASK him how long dose he think he'd last on the Blanket.... Then he said he'd have definitely joined the SS... The guy also thinks its a holy war..... But they couldn't use the road's., so who held the high ground for want of a better phrase. He's all over the shop... DO YOU VET THEASE Vets...
    He respected the Argentine press ganged kids. Said he had zero respect tor the IRA but if he lived there he'd have definitely joined them.. He's talking bubbles. I got a third of the way in.. I belive Im owed an iron cross first class with oak leaves... Wasn't he at hitlers bat mitzvah..
    ..
    .

  • @edwardodonnell6857
    @edwardodonnell6857 3 місяці тому +2

    Relieved the peace process is in place.Whatever your grievances or political stance planting bombs to tear people apart should never be a option it’s a crime against humanity.I’m not naive I understand there where genuine injustices Catholic communities where discriminated against that was wrong and more than unfortunate inequality will result in a backlash.I hope the peace will last that everyone will have a voice and be heard it took courage for the political leaders to negotiate a ceasefire.Northern Ireland need’s economic integration and investment equality everyone should have a fair chance to prosper.

  • @jojokeavy2835
    @jojokeavy2835 3 місяці тому +10

    The Sas.... battling Loyalists juring the Troubles?
    I doubt it.

  • @Silentpeeinurine
    @Silentpeeinurine 3 місяці тому +7

    In his spare time he was keeping in touch with the Glenanne gang, in case they needed any 'logistical' support.

  • @jamesoneill2933
    @jamesoneill2933 3 місяці тому +3

    Doctor Strangelove here (Strange hair) seems a tad fixated with juices , our precious bodily fluids no doubt.

  • @shanekinsella1606
    @shanekinsella1606 3 місяці тому +2

    P.s better and more honest interview from your interview with the ex para & SAS guy you had on last month.

  • @fermzy
    @fermzy 3 місяці тому +2

    Occupation forces want the locals to be nice!! Maybe bow??

  • @JoeFarrell-e3f
    @JoeFarrell-e3f 3 місяці тому +5

    Counter surveillance appears to have been the IRAs weakest skillset.The more I hear about outfits like 14 Int Coy, the more cowboy they appear. Why would you risk knocking on a door with a clip board, when you could see simply send a cab around to knock on the door and observe from a distance. Soldier's due to their Pavlov type obedience training lack the lateral thinking skills for such a role. These guys on the ground with foreign accents and British army mindset would have stood out like a sore thumb. Cops are far better in such a role then soldier's .The simplist counter surveillance skill is simply putting a matchstick in a door or window frame it doesn't have to be hi tech.

    • @Irishmush
      @Irishmush 3 місяці тому +4

      becuase no taxi in their right mind would try to pull that kinda sht of in S/A .. they know how many leaves is on the trees in South armagh
      .no go zone. 🇮🇪

    • @snowflakemelter1172
      @snowflakemelter1172 3 місяці тому

      No match for your elite gaming training .

  • @JoeMartin-g2e
    @JoeMartin-g2e 3 місяці тому +1

    Every best of fenian comments all on this 😮😮 and what happened all them 😢😢 informing sad way for revolution lose & BEEN A PROUD REPUBLICAN 👏 i know u all are AS WELL 🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤😊😊

  • @SteveDonaldson-r5k
    @SteveDonaldson-r5k 2 місяці тому

    I recall being in the RAF Police when 14 int were desperately putting out a recruitment call for members. The RAFP had (and still has I suppose) a choice of career path into counter intelligence specialisation and a future career with the intelligence services. 14 int put out a plea, cleverly worded, for recruits into the undercover world. All applications had to come via our office and I recall the rag tag bunch of dreamers and fantasists from cooks to technicians that were putting in applications. I'm guessing the same happened in the Navy. This was the early nineties. We already had a successful programme of infiltrating the IRA and similar groups and wondered what on earth these people were expected to be doing? We were well aware of the sometimes dubious shenanigans they got up to (they had 'secure' comms but we had nimrods) and we were responsible for protection of Aldergrove and Bishops Court. They were kept at arms length and I know they weren't aware we were doing it.

  • @portadownblue3139
    @portadownblue3139 3 місяці тому +1

    I’m at 1:00:26 and if he says “if that makes any sense” one more time I’m done

  • @Pedro_Belfast_Bhoy
    @Pedro_Belfast_Bhoy 3 місяці тому +10

    Battling loyalists ?? 😂😂 You are having a laugh. The Brits HELPED the loyalists
    Cannot take this podcast seriously , you need to educate yourself

    • @Wolf-hh4rv
      @Wolf-hh4rv 3 місяці тому +1

      And so say should have. Loyal to your country. Is that a problem?

    • @PatTigue
      @PatTigue 3 місяці тому +1

      Knee caping helped yer memory n your walk for few months didn't rob many banks for a while.😂

    • @Pedro_Belfast_Bhoy
      @Pedro_Belfast_Bhoy 3 місяці тому +3

      @@Wolf-hh4rv who said it was? I'm a firm believer in fighting for what you believe I'm
      You proved my original point , Brits helps the loyalists when the title of this video wss aboit thd army battling loyalists when they done no.such thing. Hope this helps

    • @bennyreed2900
      @bennyreed2900 3 місяці тому

      Cork man hasn't got the tough questions, he should be asking about collusion with the ruc udr uvf uff uda lvf mi5 mi6 fru and the special branch, other wise ur only a mickey mouse man...

    • @bennyreed2900
      @bennyreed2900 3 місяці тому

      Cork man, mickey mouse man...

  • @jamesoneill2933
    @jamesoneill2933 3 місяці тому +1

    Why does he repeatedly reference " juices " of all things ?

  • @shamrockballs1066
    @shamrockballs1066 3 місяці тому +17

    The only terrorist is the one being interviewed 😂 British miltary might in Ireland fighting farmers. Absolutely clueless.

    • @gerardhenry5501
      @gerardhenry5501 3 місяці тому +5

      True these heavily trained killers coming to Ireland to fight part time soldiers

    • @shamrockballs1066
      @shamrockballs1066 3 місяці тому

      @@gerardhenry5501 Better armed, endless resources, helicopters, armoured cars, technology, endless pit of money and a nation of 60m people, but a wee corner of Ireland with a few thousand people are the terrorists lol.

    • @johnnypickles5256
      @johnnypickles5256 3 місяці тому +6

      They weren't the ones bombing innocent people in public places , you lot are too much lol

    • @shamrockballs1066
      @shamrockballs1066 3 місяці тому

      @@johnnypickles5256 Nah mate, they were just terrorising the communities of a foriegn country lol IRA didn't exist until after these clowns invaded

    • @jamesoneill2933
      @jamesoneill2933 3 місяці тому +4

      ​@@johnnypickles5256"Too much" , you say , is that why there's a seaborder now ?

  • @John-eo4zm
    @John-eo4zm 2 місяці тому +1

    Despite soldiers saying they battled the loyalists the stats tell a different story. Not many loyalists were killed in operations by the army compared to republicans.

    • @MrRolandgent
      @MrRolandgent Місяць тому

      @@John-eo4zm probably because loyalists were easier to compromise and infiltrate so they didn’t need to

    • @arthurgoodness7865
      @arthurgoodness7865 Місяць тому

      Probably because loyalists enjoyed a very good and close working relationship with British soldiers.

  • @bozothedog9024
    @bozothedog9024 3 місяці тому +5

    How many Loyalists did the SAS take out during the Troubles, that in itself speaks volumes.

    • @gerardhenry5501
      @gerardhenry5501 3 місяці тому +2

      One I think Brian Robinson in Belfast and I think they taught he was Ira

    • @portadownblue3139
      @portadownblue3139 3 місяці тому +2

      @@gerardhenry5501No, they knew he was UVF. He was one of the UVFs main operators in Belfast and the security forces wanted him taken out of the picture. Colin Crazy Craig was an informer and a member of 1st Battalion, B Coy. He had prior knowledge of the operation and tipped off his handlers. They were expecting Brian Robinson.

    • @gerardhenry5501
      @gerardhenry5501 3 місяці тому +3

      @@portadownblue3139 I read somewhere that 14 intel were tracking a republican target when out of the blue Robinson hopped off the back of a motor bike and shot some guy dead . I think it was a female 14 intel that shot him after ramming the bike .

    • @gerardhenry5501
      @gerardhenry5501 2 місяці тому +2

      @@jackietreehorn5561 they killed one Brian Robinson after he killed a man .

  • @Bruneval66
    @Bruneval66 3 місяці тому +4

    Much respect to him, but my God he's tedious to listen to ... "Ummm" .. "Arggh" ... "Err" .. "Ummm" .. "Arggh" .. "Err" .. He obviously failed his BITS and MOI courses .. "If that makes sense" .. Gave up after 8 minutes 🙄

  • @jamesoneill2933
    @jamesoneill2933 3 місяці тому +4

    No "hats off" ,by the end you were all wearing helmets remember ?
    There were some heads off at Warrenpoint though. Karma's a bitch.

    • @jimmyD6337
      @jimmyD6337 3 місяці тому +2

      Republicans and the Irish fought the English for 800 years. But you, this current generation are letting an overnight invasion happen. Dublin's overrun by Africans, Sein Fein sold you out. Your farmers don't even have say over the Irish soil, your an EU puppet. Imagine claiming to be republican in this day and age😉

    • @jimmyD6337
      @jimmyD6337 3 місяці тому +1

      But would I know, I'm only a simple American lmfao

    • @PatTigue
      @PatTigue 3 місяці тому

      N mullaghmore queen got her juices tat day n coffin makers as well

    • @Upthemags5115
      @Upthemags5115 3 місяці тому +2

      God save our king

    • @jamesoneill2933
      @jamesoneill2933 3 місяці тому

      @@Upthemags5115 Someone loves you , or loved you , I'm sure. In the meantime repatriate to zee Fazzerland or whatever you call it nowadays. Slan

  • @iskrajackal9049
    @iskrajackal9049 3 місяці тому

    Wtf is up with this vid? Is Mick swallowing his voice or is the sound recording blipping out?

  • @stuartstein7495
    @stuartstein7495 3 місяці тому

    It must have been the late 70's a guy I knew would travel over regularly for greyhounds. He crashed into a police vehicle drunk but there was another vehicle watching and the police vehicle took off. The other vehicle approached him and he ended up in the car with them. They started asking what his beliefs were and he stupidly told them he supported the Republican cause etc. They must have checked him out with a famous guy for breeding really good greyhounds at the time but they blindfolded him and took him a run somewhere and when they took the blindfold off he was in a room with Irish flags and some weapons and I am sure they took a photo of him there and gave it to him as a keepsake. I thought it was a bit of a lax thing to do on both sides. He bought a lot of very high-end greyhounds regularly, going over there for years even before the troubles and I take it the breeder had links or was well respected within the IRA as he was on the border and had a lot of land and would let all the greyhounds out to run across the fields. The guy I knew also had a James Connolly look about him and was from Edinburgh. I just realized now that he had the same surname as one of, probably the most prominent leaders behind the Easter Rising who was executed but I don't know if he was related down the line somewhere? I don't know if maybe that came into play for that to happen and this was a successful businessman, who I knew enough to know he would not make that story up.

    • @shanekinsella1606
      @shanekinsella1606 3 місяці тому

      Are you sure you're not talking about Frank Hegarty?
      Couldn't find any research on your story. I'm not saying you are wrong, but if it's based on rumours, you should always use your critical thinking.

  • @Pinkpanther100x
    @Pinkpanther100x 29 днів тому

    Mick thats a wild armchair 😂

  • @angloaust1575
    @angloaust1575 3 місяці тому

    Same problem in palestine 1946.48 battling jewish
    Insurgents
    The british had taught them
    All the dirty tricks in fighting
    The nazis!

  • @shteviemac8310
    @shteviemac8310 3 місяці тому +2

    Terrible headline, pure lies. Only one side were battled against.

  • @chanratt
    @chanratt Місяць тому

    Ok hold on: “ with terrorism comes a lot of innocent people”. You know how many civilians died in Basra Iraq? Are you serious right now? You fired artillery into that place indiscriminately basically. The brits killed tons of civilians. And that’s o e example. I don’t support the Ira but what a silly thing to say

  • @jamesoneill2933
    @jamesoneill2933 3 місяці тому

    Could anyone explain what the meaning of the word " confusement" is please ?

    • @johnnypickles5256
      @johnnypickles5256 3 місяці тому

      What you are right now, the act or state of being confused . Check the dictionary before asking it might save embarassment .

    • @TheSubpremeState
      @TheSubpremeState 3 місяці тому

      When you think the people defending their country are "terrorists" and propaganda buzzwords mean anything. The "Ukrainians are the baddies"

    • @anthonydonlan3140
      @anthonydonlan3140 3 місяці тому +1

      Confusement is this guys state of mind...

    • @jamesoneill2933
      @jamesoneill2933 3 місяці тому

      @@anthonydonlan3140 But surely there is some kudos for still being with his second wife.

    • @johnnypickles5256
      @johnnypickles5256 3 місяці тому

      @@anthonydonlan3140 each side views each sides confusement with their own confusement. Its confusing

  • @jamesoneill2933
    @jamesoneill2933 3 місяці тому +2

    Sometimes you have to take your hat off , in the forlorn hope that Irish republicans might buy your work of fiction.

  • @collyateoo7766
    @collyateoo7766 3 місяці тому

    Leave the past iam a ken dodd tat was ur job ma8 good luck 2u

  • @ProfileP246
    @ProfileP246 3 місяці тому +3

    The SAS didn’t battle with loyalists 🤣

    • @nealcorken
      @nealcorken 3 місяці тому

      Probably cause sf were killing us .! Do k !

  • @johnnypickles5256
    @johnnypickles5256 3 місяці тому +1

    Too much censorship ,what are you scared of ? Picking and choosing as per.

    • @thegoodlistenerpodcast
      @thegoodlistenerpodcast  3 місяці тому +2

      WRONG.. haven’t deleted any comments. UA-cam does sometimes if the comment contains certain words/terms though

    • @johnnypickles5256
      @johnnypickles5256 3 місяці тому

      @@thegoodlistenerpodcast its a disgrace letting some of these idiots get away with the shite theyre saying . You want both sides of the argument ? Then take care of both sides of the hate .

    • @thegoodlistenerpodcast
      @thegoodlistenerpodcast  3 місяці тому

      @@johnnypickles5256 I’ll just say it again for ya.. I don’t delete ANY comments. Stupid comments (including ALL of yours) and smart comments are all left up

    • @johnnypickles5256
      @johnnypickles5256 3 місяці тому

      @@thegoodlistenerpodcast you read them ? Not sure any of the words/ terms used fall under that category as to offend youtubes sensibilities . Does youtube block specifuc content to comply with local laws and regulations ? Because It allows hate speech that promotes harmful and dangerous behaviour when it suits them it seems . As its not your concern sorry to bother you ,keep.the good work up.

  • @rayscott3445
    @rayscott3445 2 місяці тому

    Don't make out it was hard work in Ulster did it myself the people are great like everywhere else nothing like Iraq or the Afghan stop jumping on the bandwagon Ireland was level one proper fighting in proper wars

    • @arthurgoodness7865
      @arthurgoodness7865 Місяць тому

      Ulster? Do you mean Northern Ireland?
      Ulster is not Northern Ireland and Northern Ireland is not Ulster, never was and never will be.

  • @pmac792
    @pmac792 3 місяці тому

    He's read lots of books

  • @Stockman143
    @Stockman143 3 місяці тому +1

    Why does he tell the truth, when they caught the sniper team in south armagh .it ended up hand to hand fighting ,the sniper team got the better of the sas ,only for reinforcements arriving on the scence .

    • @shanekinsella1606
      @shanekinsella1606 3 місяці тому +5

      Wrong pal. They were setting up for a snipping run. But during the cease fire, the sas and 14 intelligence got to open up lines of enquiry to south armagh. In fact, the horse box witch held the .50 calibre rifle used ( one of a minium of no.3 .50 calibre guns).
      They managed to track down one of the teams and loosen the bolts on the horse box wheels with hidden compartment. So please, if we are to document warts and all. We need facts, not just rumour mills, pal.
      From one republican to another. Im am writing a book on the 3 decades of the troublès. It will be 3 books due out next year, hopfully. I have over x amount of people to quote during the first book. But Tiocfaidh ár lá:

    • @snowflakemelter1172
      @snowflakemelter1172 3 місяці тому +1

      Stop lying now

    • @shanekinsella1606
      @shanekinsella1606 3 місяці тому +1

      @snowflakemelter1172 pal they caught 1 snipping team. There were 3. Slab was oc....one was dicomisioned. 1 still in a dump.

    • @shanekinsella1606
      @shanekinsella1606 3 місяці тому +1

      @snowflakemelter1172 show your face s ow flake. I'd love a quote. But armchair quaters backs. Gotta love em

    • @snowflakemelter1172
      @snowflakemelter1172 3 місяці тому +2

      @@shanekinsella1606 back to your gaming chair child

  • @eamonhall790
    @eamonhall790 3 місяці тому

    Too much choppy goodbye 🙈

  • @bennyreed2900
    @bennyreed2900 3 місяці тому +3

    And 10 downing st...

  • @dalroache
    @dalroache 3 місяці тому +1

    Er.....er......er.....erm........erm.......er.......er.......erm......er......erm

  • @joemoore4037
    @joemoore4037 2 місяці тому +1

    Sas lost a lot of men during the conflict to the provos so they were not that clever 😉

  • @Sj-dt6vo
    @Sj-dt6vo 3 місяці тому +3

    No way as this clown been in the SAS, stolen valour.

  • @NAKEDTRUTHMe
    @NAKEDTRUTHMe 3 місяці тому

    If that makes any sense