I had to redo this video for the reasons I put at the start of the video. Please don't attack anyone in the video and spread it around. I want to make this clear chaos55t is not a groomer and she was only a teen at the time so she has more than likely changed. But me and chaos55t are not talking things out in the back ground, we were going to talk things out 3 days ago but they never came. Also I should make it clear that majesty cub art dates back to 5 years ago, They also said sorry about it. 23:03 I meant to say he at that point so that was my bad, I just knew them as a she for the longest time so I'm used to called them a she. That was a mistake on my part. Same video but with the robot voice and shorter ua-cam.com/video/vrLBMFdpoYQ/v-deo.html TrollArtistry didn't want to be in the video but he wanted me to post his doc witch has more info on the group. docs.google.com/document/d/1JNHBjSlNHoEFAHScwreLOhhnPQ1HZ--UOnJSQaFFrfU/edit?usp=sharing 12:30 this is not kai's second video on me it's the first one but I think the second one is lost forever. Channeleven also said sorry www.deviantart.com/channeleven/journal/Addressing-the-JAR-Situation-Apology-898784822
hey at least you tried to fix the mistake and addressed and that is fine to me your at least your helping out the community to stop this endless cycle of hate rage and exposure
Ok I can't help but say this. I love how you edit their (not just JAR's) videos. They are so full of laughs and I love it when they pronounce or spell something wrong you point it out in a way that's hilarious lol. Keep up the great work.
You can groom adults. It's very common in the work place. As far as Chaos55t goes, everything they did is textbook narcissistic abuse. Which they have an ENTIRE SERIES on one of their relatives being a narc. You want to talk psychology? Chaos basically projected all her issues onto said victim (sincerely forgot her name)... Molded her into someone who went through the same stuff they did. Chaos needs to seriously get some help. Edit: thank you all for sharing you trauma.. I hear your stories. I am wishing you all the best recovery from this.
@@Itariatan the term is not especially for children, its a generalized term for both in regards to with children and prepping someone for something and is a general umbrella term for a certaim form of manipulatation on someone
@@Itariatan grooming can be anything on anyone and sometimes not even a negativey used term but the definition popularized in current times especially with all the creeps getting exposed is the one people assume to be the main definition
@@poemone2257 No, grooming outside of relating to children does not signify manipulation. Take for example "he was groomed into a fine blacksmith" grooming meaning molded. Grooming in terms of predatory intent specifically relates to children by definition
I find it extremely rich of Joker (NummyPixels) to complain about getting hate sent to them, when they sent their horde of rabid fans on me, a nobody at the time, when we could've sorted out our problems privately. Good on you for actually taking the time to edit this and re-upload it. Shows you're more mature than most of the people that screwed you over. I wish you all the luck in this situation and I hope it brings you the proper closure you deserve. Edit: I know this is cliché to say, but thank you to every person who replied to this comment and gave me your sympathies. It really means a lot, considering that NummyPixels basically ruined me the same way he did with PE013 and I've had to carry that trauma for over half a decade. I feel like I can finally start properly healing after I saw all the support I was getting. It truly means the world to me. Again, thank you all and bless. X
I'm super sorry that happened to you as well.🥺 It's not okay and that should never happen! Especially regarding dealing with grown adults or kids who should at least know better. So disappointing and sad to hear more then one went through the same horrendous situations. I pray you feel better, and I pray those who hurt you get better and learn from their mistakes or get their just rewards for their garbage decisions.😤😠
In my view, most people who do this sort of thing don't actually have problems. They just want to cause other people problems, and they never back down until and unless it backfires.
Commentary community is overwhelmingly filled with spiteful backstabbing people. Though nice to see you push through, and these back stabbers getting hit with karma.
Nummypixels continues to block people who call him out, denying any responsibility for his past actions. This is unacceptable. Cancelling someone for doing something in the past is never okay, but when they refuse to apologize and take the blame for their actions, then that's when things get heated.
@@Circle-of-Dreams I know it's an old, old, old topic now but I'd personally never forgive them. They'll never change and if they could, they'd do it all again.
im autistic and i can attest to us being... very trusting. ive been manipulated by two different people, both of which at one point tried to ask me out (i turned them both down.) while i hate the idea that we're childish, we are easier to manipulate than most are, and that isnt something we should have to blame ourselves for. it is never your fault that you were fooled into trusting someone. even if that person was younger than you, they can manipulate you. it isnt your fault. never believe that. i just hope one day i can take my own advice.
Thank you for including me in the video, JAR. If anyone has any questions regarding my experience(s) with Chaos, please do not hesitate to ask. Also, I want to clarify that when Chaos tried reaching out to me in 2016, I was 22-23 years old, not 25. EDIT 12/18/2021, 3:55 PM CST: I also want to say that I shouldn't have had used the term "grooming/groomer" at the time of making my part of the video, and I apologize for any confusion I've caused.
Just hope to God that FluffyTurbo doesn't spurg out again. The whole situation in your comment replies in the last video was like watching SuperSprite65 defending Sonic93 all over again.
yeah i don't think Chaos is a groomer, however you can manipulate (different from grooming i think) someone older than you even if they're an adult, neurodivergent people can be manipulated esp by someone younger than them. its not talked about enough when i was 16 i got manipulated by someone who was 14 (they probably didn't know they were being manipulative at the time but i recently found out they're still shitty to people and even doxxed a neurodivergent minor while literally being in college......)
Lily... Your segment shocked me to the heighest degree. I almost got sick half way through. I was outraged at Chaos' actions. Also, for someone who also has ADHD, I can say you're doing well for yourself, stay strong, okay? And yeah. Don't worry. I picked up on the fact Chaos isn't a groomer from both you and JAR, I sensed it was a mistake. She's a different can of worms. A Gaslighter is definaetly number 1, obviously.
Would you say 'brainwashed' might have been the word? Gaslighting, grooming, brainwashing, all these words are pretty broad and vague, but definitely have some strong connotations. Imo, brainwashing is a good word to match the behavior you described.
I am truly rendered speechless by all of this. The fact that you went through all this, and damn near all alone at that fact, is something not many of us would even want to THINK of going through. Glad you came out the other end on top Jar! You really do deserve it and anything good that comes forth from this! ❤💘💝💖💓💕💞💫✨
Thank you for editing this and reuploading it. And more so for being willing to hear out Mal when she initially contacted you, and myself as well despite me coming at you more aggressively. It’s never easy to suck up the possibility of taking a hit on a video, especially since the UA-cam editor is such a worthless waste of space. You being willing to hear us out, and fix the problem, speaks to moral character, and a willingness to listen. These are essential things as a content creator on any platform, and I’m glad you have that integrity. I hope this video goes well, and completely surpasses in both views and engagement to the original!
The PrincessElizabeth013 part actually made me cry a little...mainly because looking back I could actually relate to her I was bullied IRL and kids at school would do shit to me just to get reaction/outburst to laugh at I use childish death threats as a way to defend myself or just for really petty things that just made things worse when it came to bullying I have a plethora of emotional and mental issues from years of abuse from members of my family This just makes me regret the stuff I made towards her even more and hate my younger self looking back.
Sad irony that they accused you of pushing someone to deletion when they nearly pushed you over the edge. They should be bashed the exact same way as they did to you because they nearly did the exact thing they were bullying you for. I'm glad you're still with us JAR. Stay strong!
I’m glad the videos back up, since it has Erin’s testimony in it. Hopefully, since there’s no more hiccups, she’ll be able to get closure. I hope no one strikes this video down, it’s one of your most important videos.
I feel chaos might used JAR to in a way cope with the pain of their friend dying. Since is easier to think someone f your friend and unliving by their own accord. Not that it justifies but it could’ve been the case. Chaos, your friend is gone. Blaming it on others to cope isn’t okay. If someone got the info to show that it was self deletion and you’ve been spreading this around it would make a bad mark on your criminal record. I didn’t lose someone over self deletion but of sickness. They are gone. Blaming on others isn’t gonna bring them back. You have to accept this.
Could be a possibility. The human brain does some super fucking weird things in order to cope with trauma And unfortunately sometimes the victim can become the abuser
Never a problem to watch again. I'm proud of you for editing things and making sure no one gets falsely labeled I think between the lot of us we've had about our fill for being called this and that without solid evidence. If evidence comes forth fine but it's best to ensure that life ruining labels aren't thrown around willy nilly. Happy to support and thank you for letting me speak my piece.
This whole story is a good example about how sad and pathetic the commentary community can be good on you for getting through this you are really the only commentary youtuber I’ve been watching for awhile and you have my respect man
Shit like this is why I'm scared of shipping my OCs with fictional characters and why I keep privating and unprivating my Twitter accounts because of what I draw and even when people know I'm autistic and have depression and had past suicidal thoughts and kept having them from time to time, people still harass me and even called defective and sent pics of electric chairs on my posts on Twitter
Also, about the nerodivirgant people and Autism and ADHD, I'm all of those and I didn't know that my brain can't mature mentally until I am 27 or older, I always thought I was just immature and I've even told that I'm immature and I'm 21
I know this comment is a year old but, there’s nothing wrong with shipping canon characters with your fan characters as long as it’s not in a toxic way. The DA ranting community really did use Akai Dahlia, Truth Lely Gaia, and PE013 to paint canon x OC/fc shipping in a bad light.
@AREA 051 Honestly, I hate the cringey mary sue OC's who hate on others who like the same character. Also, I'm having hate on Tiktok for shipping my OC with Mikey from Tokyo Revengers
Damn that sucks you were forced to kill the momentum of your most important video. I'll repost my old comment and rewatch the video: So glad you were able to bounce back from such shitty situations and finally take a stand against those that wronged you even offering help to those that helped in wronging you. It's weird to think that if none of this stuff happened you either wouldn't have made the two Justarobot channels or you would've taken a different path all together but I'm glad you are here now and are able to provide victims of similar circumstances a platform to speak hopefully when you talk with Chaos you two can finally come to common ground and move on. Looking forward to more in the future JAR also happy birthday again hopefully your birthday is no longer cursed lmao
I wanna say my thoughts on 2 things: 1. The Princess Elizabeth case: So, you mean to tell me that the fire started for someone shipping their OCs with other fictional characters? I am heavily disappointed in the people that harassed her and I can relate, I was harassed and bullied as a kid to the point I had multiple mental problems. I hope she's doing alright and I am disgusted with what those people have done. 2. Chaos Case: You can't just blame someone on someone's death, That's just not right to me. It's highly disgusting and very heartless. Sorry if I have to cut it short, I hope you're doing okay, JAR, and Happy Holidays.
@@Circle-of-Dreams it's entirely stupid, like I can relate, I also have Autism but just because someone ship their OC with fictional characters, doesn't mean you have to harass them
@@Circle-of-Dreams well im hope you doing okay 😊 And it's quite alright to ship your Ocs with Fictional characters, i do it all the time. Hopefully, those guys can learn a lesson and apologize one day
Hey man, we're all here for you. This all sucks but at least is slowly coming to a close _(Hopefully)_ Good on you for correcting your mistakes, you're the bigger man here.
For Chaos said about friends committed suicide, you don't blame others for no reason. Even it's true, why continued to spread rumors without any proof if her dead friend is true? I understand people hates someone's guts especially toxic people but when it comes to accusations and dramas, it keeps spreading like wildfire and no one seem to put it out. Not even rant or commentary communities would to put it down until one person; that would be JAR and the rest of the victims of the internet. Please don't spread accusations without any evidences. Innocent until proven guilty.
Though I feel bad for jar, I’ve realized the commentary community has seemed to become more and more worse than even the beauty community in terms of drama, I enjoyed watching youre content jar and I still think you’re a great person, but watching the same stretched out drama go on and on until it’s done has been tiring, but I wish you luck nonetheless on everything that’s been happening ( plus I still hope that those who betrayed you get what they deserve)
Dear god Lilly's story really reminds me of an ex partner of mine. The parallels are uncanny and I wish the best for them, blatant manipulation like this sticks with you forever, I still cannot even fully trust some of my closest friends although I know they betray or use me.
I can understand in a way what happening with you Lily, I was in a relationship with someone who messed with my reality too. Made up a whole other realm that he could go to and had someone from it that stayed with him a lot. it still messes with me to this day. I'm also very neurodivergant (ADHD and ASD) I hope things are better for you now and you never have to deal with anything even slightly like this again. /genuine Also, I'm very sorry if this seems like I'm trying to divert attention or anything. I realized half-way through writing this was probably going to be taken in a wrong way. /genuine
(I would like to thank you for including me in the video, JAR, and I'm sorry I have been indecisive on whether I wanted to come forward or not. I hope you will forgive me for that. Also, happy belated birthday. ) Again, I would like to say that I DO forgive everyone and that I'm sorry for everything I've said and done. Ever since the Joker drama, I have been afraid that I would be attacked again for shipping myself with a fictional character (currently, I ship myself with Bill Cipher from Gravity Falls and Mr. Compress from BNHA) and be a part of the Sonic fandom where I posted about my OC(s). Not only I was subject to hate art, unwanted redesigns, and ripoff OCs disguised as "parody", some people were gross enough to make N*zi porn of my Sonic OC and made an inc*stuous ship involving me and my character Elizabeth. People also made unwanted OTPs involving my Sonic OC (people even tried to ship me with Chris Chan or Elizabeth with Sonichu). People accused me of ripping off of Topaz from "Sonic X" yet they didn't call Joker out for ripping off of Fiona Fox (a character I HATE even to this day) from the Archie Sonic the Hedgehog comics. I was also accused of ripping off of other characters or media I liked yet they also turn a blind eye to the people who hurt me who do the EXACT SAME THING and still do it! When the ED page was made on me, Joker thought it would be funny to insert himself into something that didn't involve him. When ED banned him for vandalizing the page on me, he blamed me for making the page on him (when I did NO SUCH THING). One of the straws that broke the camel's back (other than me contemplating committing self deletion), was that I was betrayed by my back-stabbing ex-friend Sasha-Loves-Shadouge by being framed for hacking Sasha when I had NOTHING TO DO with her birthday stream because I blocked her after she and I broke up (after I had enough of her and one of her friends ABUSING ME). In case anyone wants to know; Yui, Lilly, and I have forgiven each other for what we've done to each other during the entire ordeal (including the pain I went through). To those who tried to claim that my family was abusive (taken from my confession journal, paraphrased by me): "Before anyone tries to claim that I was brainwashed and/or indoctrinated; no I wasn't. I grew up in a loving religious household and that I didn't know how the internet worked. I know that not everything will be fixed by apologizing since some people just want to be petty towards me and not let go of what I've done in the past. I'm currently trying to go on with my life, even when I relapse. Please understand that I'm not trying to use anything I said as an excuse for what I've said and done." I have a message to the people who abused me: You do realize that what you've done in the dark is finally being brought to the light. Again, I hope you're happy that you made my life a living hell (especially the fact that I was bullied since preschool). You've turned my vulnerabilities on me like a weapon and took advantage of me. What you've done to me will live on the internet forever. To quote Bill Cipher from Gravity Falls about how you're trying to lie your way out instead of owning up to your mistakes: "It's funny how dumb you are." And to quote Dabi from My Hero Academia about the repercussions that you will face for manipulating me, abusing me, ETC. (paraphrased by me): "The past never forgets!" I forgive you for the damage done, just remember this: "Do unto others that you have done unto you." By the way, thank you for hating me. UPDATE #1 12/20/21: In case anyone gets upset over me speaking up, My mother told me that it's OK to forgive my abusers and still speak up, yet I don't expect anyone to forgive me for any of my mistake(s) I made. UPDATE #2 12/21/21: Looking back at the drama, I can't help but feel like either Joker or Sasha made the troll accounts on me or my OC so they could attack me and/or slander me further. UPDATE #3 12/28/21: The reason why the art of my character looks incomplete is due to a coloring error I made in Paint Tool SAI and that I forgot to color a part in. Big apologies for that.
I myself am a Catholic and I'm not the forgiving type even when the bad people beg for mercy? I have no interest in forgiving bad people. Internet Warriors are Not Warriors. Only those who risk their lives in danger are the REAL Heroes. Yes I've killed bugs, and animals. I was raised by a bunch of a Combat Veterans growing up. I hate evil people like Child Mo****ers, Terroist, Antifa, KKK, Race Supiorority groups, and Political Correctness.
Like I said in the og-video comments: I normaly don't blame people for what they did in the past. After all I'm of the believe that everyone is able to grow and change. And some people in this scenario did exactly that. They grew up, changed, and took responsibility of what they did. But than there are those who didn't change at all. Who still lie, and devlect blame and still hurt others for, what seems to be, there own enjoyment. Those are the kind if people I can't stand! They never moved forward, they just got stuck in the past and never changed for the better!
Ah geez Lilly’s story of what happened to her and how she recovered from it with her fearing her significant other would leave them cause of their trauma I can relate so hard cause I see my partner would do the same
Still support you, Luke. Also, I still have had the "what if" thought of Lily actually moving in with Chaos. Like, if Chaos was was living with her narcissistic, abusive relative (if that story is even true, knowing how much Chaos lies at this point/embellishes her irl stories). I actually shudder to think what could've happen to Lily.
54:10 man, that part is one of my favorites of the video. I don't understand why does some people enjoy harassing the vulnerable ones, and autistic people!? Why!?!? Look, I'm not autistic but I'm a neurodivergent person (i have adhd) and the fact that those types of people that hurt vulnerable people exists really scares me (if I ever find someone who acts like this I'm going to kick them right in the crotch and proceed to run FAR away from them) You guys are so brave for sharing your stories. My heart goes out to you ♥️ (Grammatical error for those who are asking "why the edit?")
The issues with being in this type of community are the same as being in traditional news - biases blended with craving a juicy story. Most have no integrity, they only want people to hear their lip-service and play along. The people in these communities constantly sell dreams, telling their target that "you need to change"; yet, when the person changes for the better, the community refuses to let go of the past. When people genuinely change and prove they want to be better, the people continue to paint them as a villain. They don't care if people change. If a slow news week rolls around, they'll resurrect old drama against someone who truly became a better person. The slightest mistake in a community like this means you'll forever be exiled, viewed as a leper.
What was that 'Madness' section? That's some cultish stuff. Even the house invite? That's a bullet dodged right there. Feels like a Final Fantasy House situation in the making. What the heck.
The fact that Chaos was exploiting their friend’s Death to get people on their side, fucking disgusting. I’m sorry that their friend commuted self deletion but they shouldn’t be blaming you for that friend’s death. You had nothing to do with that friend.
Good lord, between the video about your past and this. You’ve been through hell. Glad to see you were able to get your story out there and find some closure. This was insane.
Honestly, its taken me a few days since this video's upload to collect my thoughts on what to say, and, it has to deal with the point that people find it easier to harm those on the spectrum. And it is, from my own experience, very much true. I wont say all that happened to me in this comment, but suffice to say i did wind up in a year long abusive friendship because being on the spectrum, with high empathy that can affect my already somewhat undtable emotions at the time. Its taken many years to heal and altho my former abuser has changed, and has hopefully gotten better by now, I've had a skewed view of myself that my current friends have tried to help me with and i deeply love all of them through the worst of recovering and the times i lash out due to my own trauma, that i am slowly trying to put to rest even if it will never go away
I finnaly found a new internet legend . His legacy show be known as just a robot . His history and struggle are written in such a way it make JJ Martin look old . And all the people who are in his list or at least most of them did me wrong to . Yet he was the one who did a 4D chess genecide to them . I am so proud of you i can't stop crying out of joy . I alweys did have a problem with those two face snakes and you just destroy them all in their own game .
Honestly I hate the age card so much. I will say I do think minors in general don’t have a actual grasp on their actions and how they effect people and they are just kids… however to extent that can only go so far. And being an adult and using that card now.. well… your still acting like a child my guy. Also as a transgender male myself, the fact that you didn’t even know their gender… i don’t even think it was super extreme. Granted this is just my personal opinion I think just simply telling them their error is good enough. Honestly, this amount of gas lighting, manipulation is so depressing and I’m truly sorry for all those apart of this. And as someone who has been cyber bullied, you can say you have the ability to turn of the pc. But… I do believe that you can’t change what has been said but you can call people out on their bullshit. Being depicted as a monster sucks, and it does something to another person, especially because you have no idea what they have gone through. You only know the side they are willing to show. And the way chaos55t and everyone else based on the way the went about it. They showed who they were, and it still clearly shows they haven’t matured much. You don’t have to forgive people, you shouldn’t. Words do hurt. Accusations hurt. And honestly, some people should be held accountable and shouldn’t be forgiven for what they done. And yeah it sucks they have to live with that, but it’s even more suffering for the victim who had to go through all of that and deal with it. Honestly, not to sound like some charity donator, but I do think it’s a brave thing for you to come out. Even then I bet going from robot voice to your actual voice probably took a lot of courage because of the fear of being discovered. The way of changing your algorithm and learning from feedback you receive, improving from mistakes you made even if they weren’t the best takes… I think it’s what makes us all human, because let’s face it people just genuinely fuck up. And, I’m happy you have found things your passionate about such as fast fictional fights. A breath of fresh air if you will. I know recovery and moving on from an internet past is hard, but I am glad you finally have had the assurance to put it out there. I really do hope everyone here can find peace eventually or has found it. I honestly loved watching your videos, granted I kinda drifted away from the Toby drama and kiiinda prisonmateluke drama because I wasn’t exactly comfortable with touching that pole so I don’t have anything to make an opinion of. But I will say even before that, I enjoyed the content, I do believe you have bad takes but that’s just having an opinion and being true. And honestly I think making mistakes and accepting your screwups is a way of showing who you truly are. Honestly While I’m not too active on this channel as I used to, I do believe that you have come a long way. And I’m proud of it. I kinda was writing this as I watched the video so if I get some parts screwy correct me on them.
Gar I have to say this..and only this...YOU ARE THE JOHN WICK OF THIS DRAMA you are the best UA-camr ever!!! Hope you have a wonderful year tho you deserve it ☺👍
I know this video is pretty old considering when I'm commenting but I personally don't forgive them. I know these types of people all too well; they're like children in the fact that they think they're invincible and free of consequence until their parent steps in and sees the mess they've made. Except unlike said children who are sorry when they're parents walks in, these people are NOT sorry. They will gladly keep doing the things they've been doing, and they'll probably continue doing these things after this drama dies out. It's just a matter of time. These people will never change, while it's great to see closure with apologies, they're not truly sorry. If they could, they would do it all over again and will only be nice to you to avoid consequences.
If it's in regards of the people on here voicing their experiences, I agree with you.💯🎯 Although I only know about one of the people in this video and what you said easily applies to them in particular.
Honestly, I have a mental problem but man, living in a Christian home like yours must've been devastating, dude. How you managed to rise above the rabble of the people you hung out with and your own problems is admirable, just like Mr. Enter.
Holy shit I remember watching Chaos. but she gave me a slight deceiving and uncomfortable vibe in her videos. i stop following her up, Thank you for sharing your story, im truly sorry for what you have to go through in the past, JAR
Damn man, this video was awesome (in the sense of justice and retribution), both this and the video about your past are definitely your biggest and most important videos on your channel, and I’m glad to see you’ve helped so many people even with all the crap thrown at you. Your a good guy in my books JAR, or I guess I should say Luke.
Always welcome to rewatch your videos as they always seem to amaze me, generally just fucking bullshit that people used something to accuse you for so much random shit anyway happy birthday man😎
Im glad you cleared up the use of the term of grooming and I hope you and chaos can work it out and others you mentioned wont get harassed. Kinda mad that bigger ppl only focused on the mistake of calling chaos a groomer and not everything else. Someone on twitter whose name rhymes with "it" 's tweet sounded kind of like downplaying you being blamed for someone's su cide and the other allegations. It just seems no one cares what happened and only want to attack you. I know exactly what this all feels like bc people only focused on my mistakes and not on the people spending an actual half a decade stalking me. Hopefully this is all resolved for you and everyone involved JAR
Great Job, JAR, Some people would sadly never be satisfied, but you still went trough all the trouble of fixing what you deemed to be flawed part of a very long and tidies video. It must have been annoying, especially so since the video means a lot to you, so good job for all the good work!
Both the ranting community and the art commentary community feel like two extremes that went horribly wrong. Both communities just had god awful people in it.
22:13: Its not weird. They don't want to admit adults making drama and rumors on someone. Like Sonic93 making rant videos because HOW DARE YOU SAID AWFUL ABOUT SILVER!!! To those (old) Deviantart ranters: Its all fun and games making false allegations until someone gets hurt by ruining their reputation and using their popularity to hurt you, JAR, Lily, PrincessElizabeth and many others At least someone of them: come foward apologies you Others don't and pretend that never happened... I'm looking forward for your next video JAR. You did great work. Also Happy {late} Activation Day!
Hope you’re doing good! I was a witness to most of this bullshit (due to being in deviantart back then) I know how cruel the community was. And I’m sorry you had yo deal with any of them, especially first hand
I find it funny that now that you're a famous youtuber, now everyone seems to want to "talk things out like adults". Yeah, seems reeeel genuine to me! These people are a bunch of phonies, don't give them the light of day.
Welp all I can say is that my eyes have seen the glory of the cleansing if UA-cam. But man they really struck you down and you came back more powerful then they could possibly imagine. Also glad to see some people fess up to their mistake.
Honestly everything when it comes to the deviant rant/commentary community reminds me of survivor. There's a weird Meta with specific lingo. I'm just waiting on the purple cut or blindsiding to become the norm.
Men, knowing these people's age, and seeing the way they talk pisses me off. it's like watching me talk online when I was 12. Mad cringe. Anyways I hope you the best man, don't know why UA-cam recommended me this, but keep on trucking along.
Adults can be groomed, it's what abusers do with their victims-- also happens sometimes with ND ppl or ppl with cognitive disabilities. It's just like a different brand of grooming from what happens with minors Not saying this in relation to this case ofc, just a general statement
Happy Birthday JAR! ^^ I'm not going to repost my comment but I will say that I am glad Chaos55t is willing to work things out and stopped with the deflection. I hope she working on a response and is able to take responsibility. Still mssed up what she did but if she takes responsibility and just owns it then I can give her another chance.
I just read the pin comment... by JAR. Damn it Chaos... JohnSwanning this is not a good look for yah. Regardless, I hope she has a good reason... but my trust with her is at their ends. 😑
@@AllenPhoenix have you watched the rest of the video? And gotten to Lillies part of the video? Just checking, because I’m completely done with her personally because of that.
Yes I have watched the rest of the video. I was just saying that from the start of the Video that Jar state him and Chaos was talking but then seeing his Pinned comment that Chaos didnt show. I was once a fan of her content before Jar came out and hearing what she did to Lilly is really disheartening. I wanna hear her side if she doesn't deflect and owns up to it. That's all I was trying to say.
Tbh Your human voice is attractive imo Maybe it's because I'm not used to it, but I still like it! I still really like your robot voice, I can see why people might not take a liking to it but I do enjoy it!
Hey JAR, just here to leave another comment for engagement. Also, happy late birthday. Sorry you have bad bday luck, I too suffer from that shite. Love ya man 🖖
Ngl, something told me something was iffy with Chaos when I stopped watching her and damn, I was right. I'm sorry you all had to go through with the stuff she did. I wish you all a happy day. Chaos? Yeah no. I really don't care for her anymore after the grimy shit she pulled. But her fans would probably still watch her even after y'all showed what she did. I wouldn't be surprised. But anyway, good day to you all and I hope things get better.
I was a subscriber of hers, mostly for the Storytime videos around Fake Witches and stuff. Unsubbed after what happened with JAR came out. Unforgivable.
Proud to see you being as genuine as you can be with the edits! If anything I am glad you're willing to be as down to earth as you have been in all of this. It's not easy being in the situation you have been in and I'm really glad you've been powering through it all. I do really hope Chaos does respond to this all too... Claims like these I feel shouldn't be pushed under the radar and I feel she desperately needs to address them. Here's to hoping. Anyways, thanks again for hearing me out and my apology. It means a lot to me JAR, I am still sorry for all the hurt I put you through but I'm glad people are seeing this community for more than the black and white that it appeared perfectly to be.
Definitely rewatching the video, thank god I actually got noticed it. For some reason I wasn’t notified for the first one despite having notifications on and being subscribed 💀
The fact at 24:54 that they have evidence of them trying to do self-deletion is proving the fact that they probably have lied about it before which just speaks the their character.
And also honestly, nitpicking over the details of "grooming" just enables chaos55ts supporters to destigmatize what she did to lily. I think chaos deserves the stigma, this needs to be taken seriously
Honestly, when you were talking about the "dollface" thing, my mind went straight to the clip of Star vs the Forces of Evil where a knight calls Star "babygirl"? and promptly gets kicked out. Interesting times.
I'm so sorry what those people did to you it makes me glad that I have a high chance of dementia and a short life expectancy cuz I won't have to leave in a world where people like this run-rampid
Well yeah I'm perfectly fine I just have a high chance of getting dementia at my young age the comment was this a way of me telling my emotions and how I view these people
I dunno why but every time you're called JAR I keep thinking about what kind of jar you'd be. Jam, Pickles or Peanutbutter. Also Happy Birthday. Sorry you had to deal with this of your B-day.
Taking neurodivergent people and those who are in a very vulnerable state of mind, like grieving a loss, for example, I'd say adults can be groomed too Or else we wouldn't have vulnerable adults being manipulated to be part of different cults or harmful groups
@@artemismoore4176 Especially people that are grieving a loss, it is so easy for someone to swoop in and take advantage of them in a very vulnerable state of mind. Also people who are just lonely. You have neurodivergent adults that will happily accept friendships from teenagers and it’s not like teenagers are saints online.
Apparently I didn't leave a comment on the original upload, so I'll do it here :) I also rewatched the entire video as well. I recently had my birthday as well, so happy belated birthday, birthday buddy!! Keep up the good work, JAR.
I had to redo this video for the reasons I put at the start of the video. Please don't attack anyone in the video and spread it around.
I want to make this clear chaos55t is not a groomer and she was only a teen at the time so she has more than likely changed.
But me and chaos55t are not talking things out in the back ground, we were going to talk things out 3 days ago but they never came.
Also I should make it clear that majesty cub art dates back to 5 years ago, They also said sorry about it.
23:03 I meant to say he at that point so that was my bad, I just knew them as a she for the longest time so I'm used to called them a she. That was a mistake on my part.
Same video but with the robot voice and shorter ua-cam.com/video/vrLBMFdpoYQ/v-deo.html
TrollArtistry didn't want to be in the video but he wanted me to post his doc witch has more info on the group.
docs.google.com/document/d/1JNHBjSlNHoEFAHScwreLOhhnPQ1HZ--UOnJSQaFFrfU/edit?usp=sharing
12:30 this is not kai's second video on me it's the first one but I think the second one is lost forever.
Channeleven also said sorry
www.deviantart.com/channeleven/journal/Addressing-the-JAR-Situation-Apology-898784822
You made a Jojo's refrence
What have you done
Damn I feel bad you went through this drama
This is genuinly insane. Like holy man you did well to stand on top in the end and still be more mature
hey at least you tried to fix the mistake and addressed and that is fine to me your at least your helping out the community to stop this endless cycle of hate rage and exposure
The fact that Chaos is willing to exploit the suicide of her friend as an excuse to avoid criticism is disgusting.
I used to watch her deviantart videos back in the day, sad to see
It's weird to think that she'd go that far... Fuck, I even spoke to her at one point, and she seemed alright enough, but... Shit...
@@bernkastel7438 same
@@mistahjenkins4826 staying too much time on social media can fck up with someone's mind.
Little did Nisse know, Chaos would do much worse.
Hope it goes well. Took some brain cells to read these screenshots while editing.
You are a beast my guy. Respect for all the hard work.
You did a great job with the editing.
Same u did amazing editing and i enjoy it! Merry Christmas Trigger
Thank you so much @KaiserTrigger for all the hard work you do. Have a lovely fantastic Christmas. Merry Christmas!!!☃️⛄❄️🏔️🎁🎇🎆🎄
Ok I can't help but say this. I love how you edit their (not just JAR's) videos. They are so full of laughs and I love it when they pronounce or spell something wrong you point it out in a way that's hilarious lol.
Keep up the great work.
You can groom adults. It's very common in the work place.
As far as Chaos55t goes, everything they did is textbook narcissistic abuse. Which they have an ENTIRE SERIES on one of their relatives being a narc. You want to talk psychology? Chaos basically projected all her issues onto said victim (sincerely forgot her name)... Molded her into someone who went through the same stuff they did. Chaos needs to seriously get some help.
Edit: thank you all for sharing you trauma.. I hear your stories. I am wishing you all the best recovery from this.
Wouldn't be grooming in that case, as the word is especially meant for children. Just manipulation on a weak mind.
Always knew chaos was a nut job and whatever happens to her she deserves
@@Itariatan the term is not especially for children, its a generalized term for both in regards to with children and prepping someone for something and is a general umbrella term for a certaim form of manipulatation on someone
@@Itariatan grooming can be anything on anyone and sometimes not even a negativey used term but the definition popularized in current times especially with all the creeps getting exposed is the one people assume to be the main definition
@@poemone2257 No, grooming outside of relating to children does not signify manipulation.
Take for example "he was groomed into a fine blacksmith" grooming meaning molded.
Grooming in terms of predatory intent specifically relates to children by definition
I find it extremely rich of Joker (NummyPixels) to complain about getting hate sent to them, when they sent their horde of rabid fans on me, a nobody at the time, when we could've sorted out our problems privately.
Good on you for actually taking the time to edit this and re-upload it. Shows you're more mature than most of the people that screwed you over. I wish you all the luck in this situation and I hope it brings you the proper closure you deserve.
Edit: I know this is cliché to say, but thank you to every person who replied to this comment and gave me your sympathies. It really means a lot, considering that NummyPixels basically ruined me the same way he did with PE013 and I've had to carry that trauma for over half a decade. I feel like I can finally start properly healing after I saw all the support I was getting. It truly means the world to me. Again, thank you all and bless. X
im so sorry that happend to you.
I'm super sorry that happened to you as well.🥺 It's not okay and that should never happen! Especially regarding dealing with grown adults or kids who should at least know better. So disappointing and sad to hear more then one went through the same horrendous situations. I pray you feel better, and I pray those who hurt you get better and learn from their mistakes or get their just rewards for their garbage decisions.😤😠
In my view, most people who do this sort of thing don't actually have problems. They just want to cause other people problems, and they never back down until and unless it backfires.
I'm sorry that this happened to you.
@@Calbeck And sadly; it's hypocritical of Joker to claim that he was abused when in reality, he abused me and everyone else.
Commentary community is overwhelmingly filled with spiteful backstabbing people.
Though nice to see you push through, and these back stabbers getting hit with karma.
It's sad that to those people, human decently is optional
So the commentary community is filled with spies?
Rain World pfp.
Yes
Nummypixels continues to block people who call him out, denying any responsibility for his past actions. This is unacceptable. Cancelling someone for doing something in the past is never okay, but when they refuse to apologize and take the blame for their actions, then that's when things get heated.
Sadly, he's also been resorting to slandering me and Lilly.
@@Circle-of-Dreams
I know it's an old, old, old topic now but I'd personally never forgive them.
They'll never change and if they could, they'd do it all again.
@@espressomarcelini7294 I'm sorry.
im autistic and i can attest to us being... very trusting. ive been manipulated by two different people, both of which at one point tried to ask me out (i turned them both down.)
while i hate the idea that we're childish, we are easier to manipulate than most are, and that isnt something we should have to blame ourselves for.
it is never your fault that you were fooled into trusting someone. even if that person was younger than you, they can manipulate you. it isnt your fault. never believe that. i just hope one day i can take my own advice.
Thank you for including me in the video, JAR.
If anyone has any questions regarding my experience(s) with Chaos, please do not hesitate to ask.
Also, I want to clarify that when Chaos tried reaching out to me in 2016, I was 22-23 years old, not 25.
EDIT 12/18/2021, 3:55 PM CST: I also want to say that I shouldn't have had used the term "grooming/groomer" at the time of making my part of the video, and I apologize for any confusion I've caused.
Just hope to God that FluffyTurbo doesn't spurg out again. The whole situation in your comment replies in the last video was like watching SuperSprite65 defending Sonic93 all over again.
yeah i don't think Chaos is a groomer, however you can manipulate (different from grooming i think) someone older than you even if they're an adult, neurodivergent people can be manipulated esp by someone younger than them. its not talked about enough
when i was 16 i got manipulated by someone who was 14 (they probably didn't know they were being manipulative at the time but i recently found out they're still shitty to people and even doxxed a neurodivergent minor while literally being in college......)
Lily... Your segment shocked me to the heighest degree. I almost got sick half way through. I was outraged at Chaos' actions.
Also, for someone who also has ADHD, I can say you're doing well for yourself, stay strong, okay? And yeah. Don't worry. I picked up on the fact Chaos isn't a groomer from both you and JAR, I sensed it was a mistake. She's a different can of worms. A Gaslighter is definaetly number 1, obviously.
Still what happened was not ok.
Would you say 'brainwashed' might have been the word? Gaslighting, grooming, brainwashing, all these words are pretty broad and vague, but definitely have some strong connotations. Imo, brainwashing is a good word to match the behavior you described.
I am truly rendered speechless by all of this. The fact that you went through all this, and damn near all alone at that fact, is something not many of us would even want to THINK of going through.
Glad you came out the other end on top Jar! You really do deserve it and anything good that comes forth from this! ❤💘💝💖💓💕💞💫✨
Thank you for editing this and reuploading it. And more so for being willing to hear out Mal when she initially contacted you, and myself as well despite me coming at you more aggressively.
It’s never easy to suck up the possibility of taking a hit on a video, especially since the UA-cam editor is such a worthless waste of space.
You being willing to hear us out, and fix the problem, speaks to moral character, and a willingness to listen. These are essential things as a content creator on any platform, and I’m glad you have that integrity. I hope this video goes well, and completely surpasses in both views and engagement to the original!
The PrincessElizabeth013 part actually made me cry a little...mainly because looking back I could actually relate to her
I was bullied IRL and kids at school would do shit to me just to get reaction/outburst to laugh at
I use childish death threats as a way to defend myself or just for really petty things that just made things worse when it came to bullying
I have a plethora of emotional and mental issues from years of abuse from members of my family
This just makes me regret the stuff I made towards her even more and hate my younger self looking back.
I myself am sorry for what I've done.
@@Circle-of-Dreams you really don't need to apologize to me, I should be the one to apologize if anything.
Sorry you went through that man.
I hope everything is brighter at the end of the tunnel for you. Here’s some extra luck🍀
I also wonder and worry about Elizabeth whereabouts. I hope she’s doing better now.
@@magicalgrim3471 she's literally the replies @Erina A.
Sad irony that they accused you of pushing someone to deletion when they nearly pushed you over the edge. They should be bashed the exact same way as they did to you because they nearly did the exact thing they were bullying you for.
I'm glad you're still with us JAR. Stay strong!
I’m glad the videos back up, since it has Erin’s testimony in it. Hopefully, since there’s no more hiccups, she’ll be able to get closure. I hope no one strikes this video down, it’s one of your most important videos.
Thank you for your concern.
I feel chaos might used JAR to in a way cope with the pain of their friend dying. Since is easier to think someone f your friend and unliving by their own accord. Not that it justifies but it could’ve been the case.
Chaos, your friend is gone. Blaming it on others to cope isn’t okay. If someone got the info to show that it was self deletion and you’ve been spreading this around it would make a bad mark on your criminal record. I didn’t lose someone over self deletion but of sickness. They are gone. Blaming on others isn’t gonna bring them back. You have to accept this.
Could be a possibility. The human brain does some super fucking weird things in order to cope with trauma
And unfortunately sometimes the victim can become the abuser
No, they lied about their friend dying.
Lesson of the day people: NEVER backstab a robot. EVER.
And u can’t even backstab a robot cuz it’s metal
the knife will snap.
You don’t want the terminator on your ass
Never a problem to watch again. I'm proud of you for editing things and making sure no one gets falsely labeled I think between the lot of us we've had about our fill for being called this and that without solid evidence. If evidence comes forth fine but it's best to ensure that life ruining labels aren't thrown around willy nilly. Happy to support and thank you for letting me speak my piece.
You're cool
@@TheDeficientandTheIdiot Well thank you dear
This whole story is a good example about how sad and pathetic the commentary community can be good on you for getting through this you are really the only commentary youtuber I’ve been watching for awhile and you have my respect man
Shit like this is why I'm scared of shipping my OCs with fictional characters and why I keep privating and unprivating my Twitter accounts because of what I draw and even when people know I'm autistic and have depression and had past suicidal thoughts and kept having them from time to time, people still harass me and even called defective and sent pics of electric chairs on my posts on Twitter
Also, about the nerodivirgant people and Autism and ADHD, I'm all of those and I didn't know that my brain can't mature mentally until I am 27 or older, I always thought I was just immature and I've even told that I'm immature and I'm 21
I know this comment is a year old but, there’s nothing wrong with shipping canon characters with your fan characters as long as it’s not in a toxic way. The DA ranting community really did use Akai Dahlia, Truth Lely Gaia, and PE013 to paint canon x OC/fc shipping in a bad light.
@AREA 051 Honestly, I hate the cringey mary sue OC's who hate on others who like the same character. Also, I'm having hate on Tiktok for shipping my OC with Mikey from Tokyo Revengers
Damn that sucks you were forced to kill the momentum of your most important video. I'll repost my old comment and rewatch the video: So glad you were able to bounce back from such shitty situations and finally take a stand against those that wronged you even offering help to those that helped in wronging you. It's weird to think that if none of this stuff happened you either wouldn't have made the two Justarobot channels or you would've taken a different path all together but I'm glad you are here now and are able to provide victims of similar circumstances a platform to speak hopefully when you talk with Chaos you two can finally come to common ground and move on. Looking forward to more in the future JAR also happy birthday again hopefully your birthday is no longer cursed lmao
I wanna say my thoughts on 2 things:
1. The Princess Elizabeth case: So, you mean to tell me that the fire started for someone shipping their OCs with other fictional characters? I am heavily disappointed in the people that harassed her and I can relate, I was harassed and bullied as a kid to the point I had multiple mental problems. I hope she's doing alright and I am disgusted with what those people have done.
2. Chaos Case: You can't just blame someone on someone's death, That's just not right to me. It's highly disgusting and very heartless.
Sorry if I have to cut it short, I hope you're doing okay, JAR, and Happy Holidays.
Sadly, that's all the PE013 drama was: bullying an autistic child over fiction.
@@Circle-of-Dreams it's entirely stupid, like I can relate, I also have Autism but just because someone ship their OC with fictional characters, doesn't mean you have to harass them
@@sashawolfson3602 Sadly, they did harass me and they didn't care if they drove me to contemplate self-delete.
@@Circle-of-Dreams well im hope you doing okay 😊 And it's quite alright to ship your Ocs with Fictional characters, i do it all the time. Hopefully, those guys can learn a lesson and apologize one day
@@sashawolfson3602 I think so, and thank you for your concern.
Hey man, we're all here for you. This all sucks but at least is slowly coming to a close _(Hopefully)_
Good on you for correcting your mistakes, you're the bigger man here.
For Chaos said about friends committed suicide, you don't blame others for no reason. Even it's true, why continued to spread rumors without any proof if her dead friend is true?
I understand people hates someone's guts especially toxic people but when it comes to accusations and dramas, it keeps spreading like wildfire and no one seem to put it out. Not even rant or commentary communities would to put it down until one person; that would be JAR and the rest of the victims of the internet.
Please don't spread accusations without any evidences. Innocent until proven guilty.
Though I feel bad for jar, I’ve realized the commentary community has seemed to become more and more worse than even the beauty community in terms of drama, I enjoyed watching youre content jar and I still think you’re a great person, but watching the same stretched out drama go on and on until it’s done has been tiring, but I wish you luck nonetheless on everything that’s been happening ( plus I still hope that those who betrayed you get what they deserve)
Dear god Lilly's story really reminds me of an ex partner of mine. The parallels are uncanny and I wish the best for them, blatant manipulation like this sticks with you forever, I still cannot even fully trust some of my closest friends although I know they betray or use me.
I can understand in a way what happening with you Lily, I was in a relationship with someone who messed with my reality too. Made up a whole other realm that he could go to and had someone from it that stayed with him a lot. it still messes with me to this day. I'm also very neurodivergant (ADHD and ASD)
I hope things are better for you now and you never have to deal with anything even slightly like this again. /genuine
Also, I'm very sorry if this seems like I'm trying to divert attention or anything. I realized half-way through writing this was probably going to be taken in a wrong way. /genuine
Nah, don’t worry bro. I just hope you’re doing OK too.
(I would like to thank you for including me in the video, JAR, and I'm sorry I have been indecisive on whether I wanted to come forward or not. I hope you will forgive me for that. Also, happy belated birthday. )
Again, I would like to say that I DO forgive everyone and that I'm sorry for everything I've said and done.
Ever since the Joker drama, I have been afraid that I would be attacked again for shipping myself with a fictional character (currently, I ship myself with Bill Cipher from Gravity Falls and Mr. Compress from BNHA) and be a part of the Sonic fandom where I posted about my OC(s). Not only I was subject to hate art, unwanted redesigns, and ripoff OCs disguised as "parody", some people were gross enough to make N*zi porn of my Sonic OC and made an inc*stuous ship involving me and my character Elizabeth. People also made unwanted OTPs involving my Sonic OC (people even tried to ship me with Chris Chan or Elizabeth with Sonichu).
People accused me of ripping off of Topaz from "Sonic X" yet they didn't call Joker out for ripping off of Fiona Fox (a character I HATE even to this day) from the Archie Sonic the Hedgehog comics. I was also accused of ripping off of other characters or media I liked yet they also turn a blind eye to the people who hurt me who do the EXACT SAME THING and still do it!
When the ED page was made on me, Joker thought it would be funny to insert himself into something that didn't involve him. When ED banned him for vandalizing the page on me, he blamed me for making the page on him (when I did NO SUCH THING). One of the straws that broke the camel's back (other than me contemplating committing self deletion), was that I was betrayed by my back-stabbing ex-friend Sasha-Loves-Shadouge by being framed for hacking Sasha when I had NOTHING TO DO with her birthday stream because I blocked her after she and I broke up (after I had enough of her and one of her friends ABUSING ME).
In case anyone wants to know; Yui, Lilly, and I have forgiven each other for what we've done to each other during the entire ordeal (including the pain I went through).
To those who tried to claim that my family was abusive (taken from my confession journal, paraphrased by me):
"Before anyone tries to claim that I was brainwashed and/or indoctrinated; no I wasn't. I grew up in a loving religious household and that I didn't know how the internet worked.
I know that not everything will be fixed by apologizing since some people just want to be petty towards me and not let go of what I've done in the past. I'm currently trying to go on with my life, even when I relapse.
Please understand that I'm not trying to use anything I said as an excuse for what I've said and done."
I have a message to the people who abused me:
You do realize that what you've done in the dark is finally being brought to the light. Again, I hope you're happy that you made my life a living hell (especially the fact that I was bullied since preschool). You've turned my vulnerabilities on me like a weapon and took advantage of me. What you've done to me will live on the internet forever.
To quote Bill Cipher from Gravity Falls about how you're trying to lie your way out instead of owning up to your mistakes: "It's funny how dumb you are."
And to quote Dabi from My Hero Academia about the repercussions that you will face for manipulating me, abusing me, ETC. (paraphrased by me): "The past never forgets!"
I forgive you for the damage done, just remember this:
"Do unto others that you have done unto you."
By the way, thank you for hating me.
UPDATE #1 12/20/21:
In case anyone gets upset over me speaking up, My mother told me that it's OK to forgive my abusers and still speak up, yet I don't expect anyone to forgive me for any of my mistake(s) I made.
UPDATE #2 12/21/21:
Looking back at the drama, I can't help but feel like either Joker or Sasha made the troll accounts on me or my OC so they could attack me and/or slander me further.
UPDATE #3 12/28/21:
The reason why the art of my character looks incomplete is due to a coloring error I made in Paint Tool SAI and that I forgot to color a part in. Big apologies for that.
Ey erin i hope u doing good and im glad ur ok merry Christmas and i sub
Hope you doing ok now Erin and wish you a merry Christmas
@@island-dreamer5638 Merry Christmas Dreamer. :)
I myself am a Catholic and I'm not the forgiving type even when the bad people beg for mercy? I have no interest in forgiving bad people.
Internet Warriors are Not Warriors. Only those who risk their lives in danger are the REAL Heroes.
Yes I've killed bugs, and animals. I was raised by a bunch of a Combat Veterans growing up. I hate evil people like Child Mo****ers, Terroist, Antifa, KKK, Race Supiorority groups, and Political Correctness.
@@nightmaretrooper5064 good choice
Like I said in the og-video comments:
I normaly don't blame people for what they did in the past. After all I'm of the believe that everyone is able to grow and change. And some people in this scenario did exactly that. They grew up, changed, and took responsibility of what they did.
But than there are those who didn't change at all. Who still lie, and devlect blame and still hurt others for, what seems to be, there own enjoyment. Those are the kind if people I can't stand! They never moved forward, they just got stuck in the past and never changed for the better!
Looking back at Chaos and Junkie is just. Upsetting. Especially when you grow up around their content.
Ah geez Lilly’s story of what happened to her and how she recovered from it with her fearing her significant other would leave them cause of their trauma I can relate so hard cause I see my partner would do the same
Still support you, Luke. Also, I still have had the "what if" thought of Lily actually moving in with Chaos. Like, if Chaos was was living with her narcissistic, abusive relative (if that story is even true, knowing how much Chaos lies at this point/embellishes her irl stories). I actually shudder to think what could've happen to Lily.
54:10 man, that part is one of my favorites of the video. I don't understand why does some people enjoy harassing the vulnerable ones, and autistic people!? Why!?!?
Look, I'm not autistic but I'm a neurodivergent person (i have adhd) and the fact that those types of people that hurt vulnerable people exists really scares me (if I ever find someone who acts like this I'm going to kick them right in the crotch and proceed to run FAR away from them)
You guys are so brave for sharing your stories. My heart goes out to you ♥️
(Grammatical error for those who are asking "why the edit?")
The issues with being in this type of community are the same as being in traditional news - biases blended with craving a juicy story. Most have no integrity, they only want people to hear their lip-service and play along.
The people in these communities constantly sell dreams, telling their target that "you need to change"; yet, when the person changes for the better, the community refuses to let go of the past. When people genuinely change and prove they want to be better, the people continue to paint them as a villain.
They don't care if people change. If a slow news week rolls around, they'll resurrect old drama against someone who truly became a better person. The slightest mistake in a community like this means you'll forever be exiled, viewed as a leper.
I'm sorry that this happened to you Jar it's nice that some of the people apologize though that place is just a mess and is so toxic.
What was that 'Madness' section? That's some cultish stuff. Even the house invite? That's a bullet dodged right there. Feels like a Final Fantasy House situation in the making. What the heck.
The fact that Chaos was exploiting their friend’s Death to get people on their side, fucking disgusting. I’m sorry that their friend commuted self deletion but they shouldn’t be blaming you for that friend’s death. You had nothing to do with that friend.
looks like UA-cam editor isn't the answer to everything after all. amazing video as always, jar!
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Good lord, between the video about your past and this. You’ve been through hell. Glad to see you were able to get your story out there and find some closure. This was insane.
Honestly, its taken me a few days since this video's upload to collect my thoughts on what to say, and, it has to deal with the point that people find it easier to harm those on the spectrum. And it is, from my own experience, very much true. I wont say all that happened to me in this comment, but suffice to say i did wind up in a year long abusive friendship because being on the spectrum, with high empathy that can affect my already somewhat undtable emotions at the time. Its taken many years to heal and altho my former abuser has changed, and has hopefully gotten better by now, I've had a skewed view of myself that my current friends have tried to help me with and i deeply love all of them through the worst of recovering and the times i lash out due to my own trauma, that i am slowly trying to put to rest even if it will never go away
I finnaly found a new internet legend .
His legacy show be known as just a robot .
His history and struggle are written in such a way it make JJ Martin look old .
And all the people who are in his list or at least most of them did me wrong to .
Yet he was the one who did a 4D chess genecide to them .
I am so proud of you i can't stop crying out of joy .
I alweys did have a problem with those two face snakes and you just destroy them all in their own game .
Honestly I hate the age card so much. I will say I do think minors in general don’t have a actual grasp on their actions and how they effect people and they are just kids… however to extent that can only go so far. And being an adult and using that card now.. well… your still acting like a child my guy.
Also as a transgender male myself, the fact that you didn’t even know their gender… i don’t even think it was super extreme. Granted this is just my personal opinion I think just simply telling them their error is good enough.
Honestly, this amount of gas lighting, manipulation is so depressing and I’m truly sorry for all those apart of this. And as someone who has been cyber bullied, you can say you have the ability to turn of the pc. But… I do believe that you can’t change what has been said but you can call people out on their bullshit. Being depicted as a monster sucks, and it does something to another person, especially because you have no idea what they have gone through. You only know the side they are willing to show.
And the way chaos55t and everyone else based on the way the went about it. They showed who they were, and it still clearly shows they haven’t matured much.
You don’t have to forgive people, you shouldn’t. Words do hurt. Accusations hurt. And honestly, some people should be held accountable and shouldn’t be forgiven for what they done. And yeah it sucks they have to live with that, but it’s even more suffering for the victim who had to go through all of that and deal with it.
Honestly, not to sound like some charity donator, but I do think it’s a brave thing for you to come out. Even then I bet going from robot voice to your actual voice probably took a lot of courage because of the fear of being discovered. The way of changing your algorithm and learning from feedback you receive, improving from mistakes you made even if they weren’t the best takes… I think it’s what makes us all human, because let’s face it people just genuinely fuck up. And, I’m happy you have found things your passionate about such as fast fictional fights. A breath of fresh air if you will. I know recovery and moving on from an internet past is hard, but I am glad you finally have had the assurance to put it out there.
I really do hope everyone here can find peace eventually or has found it.
I honestly loved watching your videos, granted I kinda drifted away from the Toby drama and kiiinda prisonmateluke drama because I wasn’t exactly comfortable with touching that pole so I don’t have anything to make an opinion of. But I will say even before that, I enjoyed the content, I do believe you have bad takes but that’s just having an opinion and being true. And honestly I think making mistakes and accepting your screwups is a way of showing who you truly are. Honestly While I’m not too active on this channel as I used to, I do believe that you have come a long way. And I’m proud of it.
I kinda was writing this as I watched the video so if I get some parts screwy correct me on them.
Once more, sorry this shit occurred, so glad you spoke out and am looking forward to seeing what you do in the future.
Happy birthday mr robot
Gar I have to say this..and only this...YOU ARE THE JOHN WICK OF THIS DRAMA you are the best UA-camr ever!!! Hope you have a wonderful year tho you deserve it ☺👍
It's sad to see a different side to creators I used to like...and I feel bad that you had to deal with these people and their bs.
I know this video is pretty old considering when I'm commenting but I personally don't forgive them.
I know these types of people all too well; they're like children in the fact that they think they're invincible and free of consequence until their parent steps in and sees the mess they've made.
Except unlike said children who are sorry when they're parents walks in, these people are NOT sorry.
They will gladly keep doing the things they've been doing, and they'll probably continue doing these things after this drama dies out. It's just a matter of time.
These people will never change, while it's great to see closure with apologies, they're not truly sorry. If they could, they would do it all over again and will only be nice to you to avoid consequences.
If it's in regards of the people on here voicing their experiences, I agree with you.💯🎯
Although I only know about one of the people in this video and what you said easily applies to them in particular.
I actually have mad respect for you jumping through so many hoops to fix this video. Its more effort some others would put into this.
Honestly, I have a mental problem but man, living in a Christian home like yours must've been devastating, dude.
How you managed to rise above the rabble of the people you hung out with and your own problems is admirable, just like Mr. Enter.
Holy shit I remember watching Chaos. but she gave me a slight deceiving and uncomfortable vibe in her videos. i stop following her up, Thank you for sharing your story, im truly sorry for what you have to go through in the past, JAR
I'm here for round two. I'm glad you can get your story out their man.
Here's to hoping the video can stay up this time! Best of luck to you JAR and everyone involved making this!!!
He lives
This whole drama feels like a civil war which ended up in another civil which then turned into a civil war within a civil war within a civil war
happy birthday our precious big boi may god bless u 😍❤
Sure helps to have a habit of rewatching several videos every minute while I breathe. This ones for you Luke.
Oh and happy birthday
Damn man, this video was awesome (in the sense of justice and retribution), both this and the video about your past are definitely your biggest and most important videos on your channel, and I’m glad to see you’ve helped so many people even with all the crap thrown at you. Your a good guy in my books JAR, or I guess I should say Luke.
Always welcome to rewatch your videos as they always seem to amaze me, generally just fucking bullshit that people used something to accuse you for so much random shit anyway happy birthday man😎
Im glad you cleared up the use of the term of grooming and I hope you and chaos can work it out and others you mentioned wont get harassed.
Kinda mad that bigger ppl only focused on the mistake of calling chaos a groomer and not everything else. Someone on twitter whose name rhymes with "it" 's tweet sounded kind of like downplaying you being blamed for someone's su cide and the other allegations. It just seems no one cares what happened and only want to attack you.
I know exactly what this all feels like bc people only focused on my mistakes and not on the people spending an actual half a decade stalking me.
Hopefully this is all resolved for you and everyone involved JAR
Stay strong JAR & Happy Belated Birthday! I pray for your safety & all. Take plenty of time off.
I wish you the best of luck for the victims from Chaos55t, and to you, Jar. Ya'll really need it. Wish you a happy (early) Merry Christmas.
I wish I got someone like you to help me with my problem, JAR.
Great Job, JAR, Some people would sadly never be satisfied, but you still went trough all the trouble of fixing what you deemed to be flawed part of a very long and tidies video.
It must have been annoying, especially so since the video means a lot to you, so good job for all the good work!
Both the ranting community and the art commentary community feel like two extremes that went horribly wrong. Both communities just had god awful people in it.
Sorry for what you have to go through while uploading or re-uploading this video, I wish the only the best for you, man👌🏽. Happy Birthday btw, JaR🎂
22:13: Its not weird. They don't want to admit adults making drama and rumors on someone. Like Sonic93 making rant videos because HOW DARE YOU SAID AWFUL ABOUT SILVER!!!
To those (old) Deviantart ranters: Its all fun and games making false allegations until someone gets hurt by ruining their reputation and using their popularity to hurt you, JAR, Lily, PrincessElizabeth and many others
At least someone of them: come foward apologies you
Others don't and pretend that never happened...
I'm looking forward for your next video JAR. You did great work.
Also Happy {late} Activation Day!
Hope you’re doing good! I was a witness to most of this bullshit (due to being in deviantart back then) I know how cruel the community was. And I’m sorry you had yo deal with any of them, especially first hand
Well done getting this back out there Jar. Hopefully its here for good now.
I find it funny that now that you're a famous youtuber, now everyone seems to want to "talk things out like adults". Yeah, seems reeeel genuine to me! These people are a bunch of phonies, don't give them the light of day.
Welp all I can say is that my eyes have seen the glory of the cleansing if UA-cam. But man they really struck you down and you came back more powerful then they could possibly imagine. Also glad to see some people fess up to their mistake.
Honestly everything when it comes to the deviant rant/commentary community reminds me of survivor. There's a weird Meta with specific lingo. I'm just waiting on the purple cut or blindsiding to become the norm.
Meow mew meow meow
Translation- Hope everything is well...n happy birthday JAR
Hey buddy keep moving forward I believe in you
I'm glad you where honest about all of this. It really tells alot about you.
This whole situation gave off Shield Hero type energy ngl 🤦🏿♂️
Men, knowing these people's age, and seeing the way they talk pisses me off. it's like watching me talk online when I was 12. Mad cringe. Anyways I hope you the best man, don't know why UA-cam recommended me this, but keep on trucking along.
Adults can be groomed, it's what abusers do with their victims-- also happens sometimes with ND ppl or ppl with cognitive disabilities. It's just like a different brand of grooming from what happens with minors
Not saying this in relation to this case ofc, just a general statement
it’s horrible how one person can destroy the mental health of a lot of people, over the Internet too
Happy Birthday JAR! ^^
I'm not going to repost my comment but I will say that I am glad Chaos55t is willing to work things out and stopped with the deflection. I hope she working on a response and is able to take responsibility. Still mssed up what she did but if she takes responsibility and just owns it then I can give her another chance.
I just read the pin comment... by JAR. Damn it Chaos... JohnSwanning this is not a good look for yah. Regardless, I hope she has a good reason... but my trust with her is at their ends. 😑
@@AllenPhoenix have you watched the rest of the video? And gotten to Lillies part of the video? Just checking, because I’m completely done with her personally because of that.
Yes I have watched the rest of the video. I was just saying that from the start of the Video that Jar state him and Chaos was talking but then seeing his Pinned comment that Chaos didnt show. I was once a fan of her content before Jar came out and hearing what she did to Lilly is really disheartening. I wanna hear her side if she doesn't deflect and owns up to it. That's all I was trying to say.
Tbh
Your human voice is attractive imo
Maybe it's because I'm not used to it, but I still like it!
I still really like your robot voice, I can see why people might not take a liking to it but I do enjoy it!
thank you so much, I hate my voice.
this is on-par with everlast's voice
and that was a 9/10
(i sound weird as hell don't i ;-;)
Happy Birthday JAR
thank you
I'm sorry you've had to deal with all of this manipulative BS, Just A Robot.
So many things have happened a lot. Like, a LOT lot. Hopefully everything will finally be laid to rest.
Still supporting this man
Hey JAR, just here to leave another comment for engagement.
Also, happy late birthday. Sorry you have bad bday luck, I too suffer from that shite.
Love ya man 🖖
Ngl, something told me something was iffy with Chaos when I stopped watching her and damn, I was right. I'm sorry you all had to go through with the stuff she did. I wish you all a happy day.
Chaos? Yeah no. I really don't care for her anymore after the grimy shit she pulled. But her fans would probably still watch her even after y'all showed what she did. I wouldn't be surprised.
But anyway, good day to you all and I hope things get better.
I was a subscriber of hers, mostly for the Storytime videos around Fake Witches and stuff. Unsubbed after what happened with JAR came out. Unforgivable.
Same here. Another case of "My favorite UA-camr I liked turned out to be a Jackass in the end"
Chaos is the fifth slimeball UA-camr I unsubscribed from this year for being a garbage person, also just a week after the fourth.
Proud to see you being as genuine as you can be with the edits! If anything I am glad you're willing to be as down to earth as you have been in all of this.
It's not easy being in the situation you have been in and I'm really glad you've been powering through it all. I do really hope Chaos does respond to this all too... Claims like these I feel shouldn't be pushed under the radar and I feel she desperately needs to address them. Here's to hoping.
Anyways, thanks again for hearing me out and my apology. It means a lot to me JAR, I am still sorry for all the hurt I put you through but I'm glad people are seeing this community for more than the black and white that it appeared perfectly to be.
Definitely rewatching the video, thank god I actually got noticed it. For some reason I wasn’t notified for the first one despite having notifications on and being subscribed 💀
Man videos like this makes me beat my desk : *DEFAMATION LAWSUIT! DEFAMATION LAWSUIT! DEFAMATION LAWSUIT!"*
Not everyone can afford a Lawyer though, or are even in the same state/country at times.
Merry Christmas and God bless you and Happy Belated Birthday!!!
The fact at 24:54 that they have evidence of them trying to do self-deletion is proving the fact that they probably have lied about it before which just speaks the their character.
Honestly the whole grooming thing just feels like an argument of semantics.
And also honestly, nitpicking over the details of "grooming" just enables chaos55ts supporters to destigmatize what she did to lily. I think chaos deserves the stigma, this needs to be taken seriously
"Not even PENNYWISE would touch it with a ten-foot pole" that shit had me dead ngl😂
Honestly, when you were talking about the "dollface" thing, my mind went straight to the clip of Star vs the Forces of Evil where a knight calls Star "babygirl"? and promptly gets kicked out. Interesting times.
I'm so sorry what those people did to you it makes me glad that I have a high chance of dementia and a short life expectancy cuz I won't have to leave in a world where people like this run-rampid
Are u ok?
Well yeah I'm perfectly fine I just have a high chance of getting dementia at my young age the comment was this a way of me telling my emotions and how I view these people
But thank you for worrying I guess
I dunno why but every time you're called JAR I keep thinking about what kind of jar you'd be. Jam, Pickles or Peanutbutter. Also Happy Birthday. Sorry you had to deal with this of your B-day.
"People are weird but to this it is an understatement."
Hope you had a chill bday, sounds like youtube editor decided to give you a hard time! Sorry you had to deal with that. 😔😔
Adults can be groomed as well. Expecially neurodiverget like myself or those that are abused. It can happen to everyone at any point of life and age
Yeah I’ve seen some definitions of grooming include vulnerable adults which is an umbrella term for adults who are on the spectrum.
@@MsUnamusedNerd yeah. People foget that people still can be vornable after 18
Taking neurodivergent people and those who are in a very vulnerable state of mind, like grieving a loss, for example, I'd say adults can be groomed too
Or else we wouldn't have vulnerable adults being manipulated to be part of different cults or harmful groups
@@artemismoore4176 Especially people that are grieving a loss, it is so easy for someone to swoop in and take advantage of them in a very vulnerable state of mind. Also people who are just lonely. You have neurodivergent adults that will happily accept friendships from teenagers and it’s not like teenagers are saints online.
"share it on twitter" he says, as if I wasn't banned forever.
I miss my friends
I can relate .
I can relate
Avocado toast for your birthday. may you live for a long and happy life.
NOW THAT'S A CALL BACK
Apparently I didn't leave a comment on the original upload, so I'll do it here :) I also rewatched the entire video as well. I recently had my birthday as well, so happy belated birthday, birthday buddy!! Keep up the good work, JAR.