the video about my past and part 2 of it are now up: ua-cam.com/video/m0ta4smjuNA/v-deo.html&t ua-cam.com/video/VZ-WWhJezmA/v-deo.html&t Same Video But With The Robot Voice: ua-cam.com/video/Lh5qO6HTUdY/v-deo.html Good news now I have proof of what BoxOVFox said: twitter.com/Just_A_Robots/status/1455974617064091664 here's proof of what Majesty did, they only said sorry after Nil found it and they were trapped. ua-cam.com/video/b_vdfZ0wBAk/v-deo.html Also check out the video I just did with Harley: ua-cam.com/video/M3kCAqEgvJo/v-deo.html Edit: 32:07 BTW this was my roommates joke and he wanted me to tell you all it was his.
Excelsior buddy also no one should hurting good ol kamen buddy went a sh÷==%ty life but all people the right to be loved no how alienated or ostracized by society we love who we are and fight for what believe in with is why we are the human race! A race to choose to define and to govern with faith hope and LIBERTY PEOPLE OF THE INTERNET. May this beacon of hope of all us people begin soon if not now. FREEDOM
The fact that false pedo allegations are such a common thing is so disgusting. It makes it harder for people to take actual victims' allegations seriously. Honestly it needs to stop; it does harm to every party involved. It does harm to the accuser if they're caught on it; it harms the reputation of the accusee, and it SERIOUSLY hinders REAL victims from actually being taken seriously. Gross.
Even Holy Majesty is guilty of it despite being into underage furry characters in that way himself. He made a video where he called Yeagar a predator because she draws family friendly art of furry child characters (because she finds them cute, she does not want to do nasty stuff with them) and it only made the harassment she faced worse. All I have to say is; nice going, Ghosty. You really defended Yeagar there. -_-
people that just spread false pedo allegations give zero fucks about child abuse, if they can use an allegation (wether is true or false) to ruin someone they don’t like reputation, they’ll gladly use it
I'm fully in support of you releasing your story at this point! Your story is completely your own right to discuss and if this video only includes your story (as you stated), I see no reason why you can't speak about it. Stay safe JAR :)
You're a lot more forgiving than I am. As soon as I caught wind of them lying behind my back I woulda taken the kiddy gloves off. If they wanna play UwU victim then so be it. I'll make sure people pity them after I'm through. I've dealt with shit like this out of the art community too many times to let a bunch of tweens talk me out of letting the truth be known. You have my sympathy, JAR.
In real life, I honestly let them keep lying and let the people know who tell me (aka actual friends) so that it all builds up. I have people next to me who have seen evidence or know me enough to know what I say or how I would act. Taking the back seat of your own drama and watching it is so amusing with the funny lies, but it's hard admitting when you're in the wrong but at least you're telling the truth at the end of the day
Not terribly important, but I just want to mention Kamen added me to talk in that chat in 21:43 so I could help sort things out, and I left because Junkie and Phantom declined to talk about anything and left before anyone could communicate. I was in no way affiliated with Junkie or Phantom, nor did I play any parts in their decisions.
You know, Jar? It sickens me that people lied behind your back and y'know I supported both Junkie and Sparrow and at the same time, I felt betrayed to be honest. Still, I wished you the best and take enough time as you need. If anything, the cc would've made a better start. But like in any community, there's going to be one person or more to make the community itself look worse.
Honestly I felt the same while watching. I am also watching Sparrow respond on her community tab and it just doesn't look any better from here. I do wish her well.
Technically 7, not only because I suck at my job but also because 7 is an amazing number and I will fight anyone who says otherwise in gladitorial combat.
JAR u are precious and u dont need to commit anything no matter what mental issue or country invironment u live in every problem has a solution and im one of ppl who has ur back whenever u want to talk u know how to find me dont give up and ur natural voice is beautiful keep it going ❤💪🏻
@@alovekok9044 The plural of ton is tons. Tons are ambiguous and come in “flavors,” long, short and metric. In most countries, the metric ton, 1000 kg, is called a tonne; so if JAR meant metric tons, the correct spelling would be tonnes, making us both wrong. However, (and he can correct me if I'm wrong) I believe he meant many units of one ton. Tones refers to colour pallets, musical notes, and emotional content or underlying attitude. (IE John had an aggressive tone; his whole family had aggressive tones. OR I enjoyed the tone of the new album; I enjoyed its' many tones. )
Me and TheNamesJunkie use to be friends, he soon stopped messaging me and even when I tried to talk to him again he pushed me away. I think I dodged a bullet now. Im so sorry you went through this JAR
And this is why I’ve lost interest with the CC as a whole and don’t follow as many commentary channels as I use to. Nearly everyone in the community are backstabbing lunatics who form mobs on people for the hell of it. It’s so annoying. Good to know that the community is practically one big snake pit. Literally half of the BS within the community would’ve been squashed if people weren’t too busy being sneaky and petty and just talked to each other. 🤦🏾♀️
Yea, ironically I just stay followed to JAR, Kamen and Fuchsia at this point, with a few others. At the very least both Kamen and Fuchsia make other videos besides commentary, and JAR has a whole Power Scaling channel, so they’re kinda moving on from Commentary, but can’t really leave it since it’s been a part of their channels for a long time I guess. I’m just glad most of the major dramas are over. Sorry for ranting
I’m sorry you had to go through this. I’ve been around manipulative, blackmailing, toxic, lying, backstabbing, narcissistic people myself and I can attest that it hurts and it sucks what they did to me. I’ve been watching you since 2017 and I look forward to seeing the video about your past. Remember you are loved. Don’t let anyone get you down, and never change who you are to appease them. ❤️
Aw jeez, ain't that a whole new can of worms. Honestly, I was wondering why Junkie was taking so much time on clarifying some misinformation on Tobi/Peaches drama and now I know why. Woooow
man watching more videos on the commentary community makes you realize how big of a rabbit hole this entire community is. literally I'm a outsider and yet knew pretty much most of the people mentioned. hope you've recovered from the past now jar. makes me really speculate that "friend group" that seemed to form there but who am I to judge, I'm just a outsider.
MangaKamen is clearly the victim when it came from the Discord Chat. Because he was really taking the chance to rekindle the friendship he has with Junkie. So I have no understanding why Junkie thought it was a good idea to call this "Blackmailing" in the first place? I ledgit don't see the logic, sure I can see why Junkie assume he wasn't completely in the wrong, because he simply made an honest though avoidable, mistake. And I believe MangaKamen assumed the same and decided to give him another chance. Sorry for making a huge talk on this end, because when you have friends that can tolerate your shortcomings and still willing to accept you, never betray that good will, it never end well and it shows. To me it appears Junkie was never really a friend, because if he really cared he shouldn't break that trust completely afterwards, I know that sounds rather heartless, but given this entire situation. I have my suspicion to believe that. (My personal belief is friends are invaluable and should be treated as such)
It’s insane watching all of the ranters that I got a weird vibe from as a kid fall from the community. I thought I was being paranoid and judgemental, but my gut was right, it was right when other people told me it was wrong. People who spend copious amounts of time being angry and dragging other people’s baggage into the spotlight can’t be all together themselves.
I think the main reason why Junkie backstabbed you and MangaKamen was to gain favour with the bigger channels. Because at the time, hating Peaches was the more popular opinion. So he joined the side he thought would win instead of siding for what was right.
@@razminfox1787 Compared to the other remaining anti-SJWs, from back in the day, JAR might be the only one who isn't hiding in a hugbox of wingnuts and edgelords, still talking about Brie Larson.
@@razminfox1787 maybe, JAR seemed alot nicer than the other Anti-SJW youtubers at the time and atleast he didn't accidentally became a Alt Right like Hunter Avalon(?) did
I have so many mixed feelings because now it feels like Junkie was the biggest snake in the Hopeless Peaches drama that was with Omnia and Kai. I’m so upset Junkie did this shit because man he hurt so many people doing this. I want to unsub to him so badly like Jesus.
@JustACommenter I don’t think omnia is as much of a snake as everyone else but rather can be blinded by her emotions? I honestly think Junkie painted it like one way to omnia because he seems to love twisting the narrative and trying to paint things as one way or the other. I kinda feel that’s what happened in omnia’s case. She had genuine beef with peaches but it feels like junkie just ignited something that should’ve been left alone on purpose. Like Jar even said he wanted junkie to clarify to omnia which he never did but either way with how the drama has unfolded into other ones? Yeah it’s just a really bloody pond at this point and Junkie was the first to throw the blood in.
What's done in the dark comes to the light eventually. The CC is basically one big giant snake pit at this point. The situation with Holy Majesty was stupid. You made three videos on someone declaring them your nemesis, but as soon as they mention you for 30 seconds in one video, you make a whole entire video lying and crying about them and then telling them to leave you alone. Holy Majesty has an ego problem in my opinion. Junkie has an instigating problem where he just makes situations worse.
@@Q-Bey oooooof not only that but a certain youtuber recently spoke out about junkie ripping apart an old rant video made on him, there's a part were the youtuber spoke about how he was groomed and getting emotional and junkie makes it out to be like it's not a big deal or not important at all that that shit happened to him, you can even hear the emotion in his voice when he called it out. It broke my heart hearing that.
@@metalhead3541 Holy shit for real? Link me this video. That's fucking horrific and Junkie is awful for doing such a thing. I hope he fucking leaves now... Almost want someone to make a "ranters/commenters gone but not forgotten" on Junkie if this shit is true! Jesus christ I'm now scared everyone is secretly a piece of shit.
Hi. Just for context: Before the first call with Junkie happened. Manga Kamen asked me to join it to both keep things level, and for moral support. I'm the one talking about how the community problems could be solved if everyone would just talked like adults. And while your statement about some people just wanting drama is true....that point still stands. When Junkie released his video, and he and his editor got stupid about Kamen (and made it clear they don't know anything about wire-tapping laws..), we tried to talk to them again. And they bailed. The commentary community is 60% snakes, and 39% cowards. How or why anyone puts stock into the opinions of these clowns when they've proven they have glass jaws is beyond me. The way people treated both Kamen AND Peaches is unacceptable.
I was already annoyed with Junkie for being such a flip flop. I didn't know he was acting so snakey. I had pretty good opinions about Junkie. From when he defended Wolfychu when she was being hated for stupid reasons and his critiques of PKrussel. But man this is just snakey behaviour. I feel especially bad for Manga, he sounded pretty emotional in that call. I do have one small critique though JAR. In the segment when you talk about the call you repeated yourself quite often. Completely valid points! But you kept saying them over and over.
kind of ironic for junkie to involve himself in drama that was similar to the spoctor drama but worse overall, jar, hoping to see the video of your past, please take care
haha oh no just the perfect cycle. The commentary community has the capability to fuel itself. They don't have to find sources to comment on outside themselves anymore
@@ClingyKiwi which comes back to a problem with a lack of emotional maturity. I mean, it's not very mature to overreact on every little mouse fart or make a mount out of a mole hill, is it?
I know it’s been a long while since all of this happened, I’ll be completely honest I regret listening to Creepshow back when all the Peaches drama happened. I thought Peaches was just another UA-camr who ended up ruining their own platform when in reality it was Creepshow and a few others. Glad that everything is peaceful now and both you and Peaches are doing better can’t wait to see the video you have in the works ya mentioned!
I thought that Junkie was a reasonable guy, but dang, never thought he was like this behind the scenes and Sparrow? Oh dearie, that's a big oof. This is why I'm skeptical of trusting who I let in my friend group because something like this could happen.
I wanted to point this out as this was a good example of BoxOvFox, I was dealing with major anger issues (I have Autism, which, It's not something for clout and shit, but, the part of Autism is Uncontrollable emotions which is common) I wanted to ask for help from BoxOvFox but turned around and said no EVEN THOUGH she said HERSELF that she can "help anyone in needed" By her saying no and blocking the people the person is helping, there isolated and often leading to terrible consequences (yes, I know about those phone-numbers and hotlines but at the time I didn't want to call them) I just found kind of funny that she would be in this sort of shtick (before you ask, Box had a group and I left and I unfriended) I completely left myself away from Box and continued on with JAR and Spocktor (who are my favorite CCs ATM) and then this video came up and I was like: "HAAAAAAA! That's what I thought, Karma from the past slapped back to reality!" I would've danced but, just the way I reacted was all I needed. I'm on your side, JAR, just know that the video is in your hands, you may use it wisely...Thank you...
I hope that u r oki and feeling better, and this same thing happened to me like a few months back, it sucked and like I had the same thoughts and everything, it takes alot to tell ur side and that's a brave thing, I stand with u (even tho u dont have a clue who I am or anything but still I support u)
This definitely explains why BoxofFox yeeting herself off of youtube is a thing and now that video she made sounds more like damage control. Greeeeeat....
They left for their mental health and physical health. And the only other factor is JAR and his team sent hate mobs after them to the point they had to delete all their old accounts.
I’m just confused about this entire ordeal entirely. I guess the only person I can enjoy without feeling scummy is Ponder. Also sorry for my comment on the Majesty thing, I need to get better at waiting for info to drop before making accusations haha- I’m a dumb boi. My brain just likes to react to things, especially at night when I’m like half awake.
The fact that manga was trying to do what twilight and her friends would have done to use friendship is magic Junkie completely went the different direction and didn’t omit to the fact that he messed up so badly that he completely lost trust with those he worked with in the past. I just feel bad for him
Imma pull my pegasa-sister card and say it reminded me of the scene where Chrysalis had a chance to join her returned hive, but completely rejected Starlight's offer believing she was in the right. And not admitting that she wasn't a good queen for her hive and her leadership had her hive in a constant hungry state.
Don't feel bad for Junkie, dude is a backstabber and a coward. Dude fled Internet to evade consequences from his own actions, yet was all too happy to call out other users for theirs.
Now I understand what people feel like after the creepshowart drama. I wasn't a fan of Creepshowart but I was into watching these people back in the day. And to know about ALL this is just giving me that jabbing feeling of betrayal somehow that Creepshowart fans felt. Sure, I never talked to Junkie, Ghost exe nor Sparrow but I did in a way admired em. To see this stuff happen, it just leaves a bad feeling in me that's hard to describe. Ughh...
Ha-ha. Oh, dont worry, JAR. I have tons of reasons to hate Kai and Omnia regardless. But this is not important. The important thing is that it's really sad that people who once saved Spoctor right now going to the same path as Stories and Pentagrin once. Story is really indeed doomed to repeat itself untill we learn a lesson. But commentary community and western as a whole show that people only pretend to understand what is bad and what is good.
I'm not shocked junkie did this considering he overblown miss zi-zi calling Kai a simp but defend Luke calling peaches a suicide baiter. Was miss zi-zi being immature calling Kai that? Yes, but let's not act like that is worse than accusing someone of faking suicidal thoughts and baiting for sympathy that lead to peaches receiving harassment over it.
Okay so I listened to this as background noise while playing video games, and I legit thought JAR was joking around with the convo between Box and the editor But nah, he was reading it word for word Box really did just come off as someone who doesn't mind their own business, a bad friend, -(Imagine telling someone you wouldn't be friends with them if they were friends/working with someone else, low key putting your friend/coworker in a tight situation. If you don't want to be friends/work with someone, then don't be friends/work with them, don't make them pick and choose)- and was being kinda cringey. Wouldn't trust the person that says they're nice until you piss them off, false or not thats a bit of a scary statement. And just didn't really seem to know the situation, as far as I'm aware; they just heard it from word of mouth, no screenshots if I heard this right 0/10, would not want someone like that as a friend/coworker. I'd be slightly miffed and afraid if a buddy went up to me like this. If Box wanted to defend some friends/victims, they should've handled the whole thing better, I'm disappointed
Box/LunaKaramura has always been this way for years. They insert themselves into any drama they can get in with. The Raging Red Heads and IcyHazard vs Grinding Gears back when they all used to be friends. That was back in 2015. So, take that as you will. Box/Luna has always been this way. They won’t change (because people don’t change in General)
This whole drama is like a roller-coaster. When you think it's over, it keeps going, and the longer it goes the more sickening it gets. I had to watch this video a few times to really get a grasp on what was happening along with some other videos. Box honestly feels like they are wanting to get the last stab of the knife in. I gave Sparrow the benefit of the doubt, but after seeing the claims they were making on Twitter don't really hold up to anything they were saying. If Sparrow really wants people to move on, then they need to just drop it. It's not hard to do. Junkie on the other hand...I want to say I'm mad and disgusted, but I am more disappointed in. He always seems so chill and at least understanding, but his videos and personality is a curtain that hides how he really is. When I watched Jasp's video in particular, I almost broke into tears after hearing how he treated Jesp. If Junkie really has any dignity, he needs to acknowledge what is going on and take some responsibility. And it sucks because I still enjoy Junkie's videos, but now I can't see him the same with how he has hurt so many people. The only thing I can see that you did as a mistake here JAR is like you said in the video, you were a bit too nice to "seahorse" and held off on uploading the video about your past, but I am at least happy that you finally did it and you didn't wait until December. If you ever go back to touch on the Tobi drama, I just only hope you won't make the same mistake as last time and I don't think you will. You seem to understand what exactly went wrong with the first attempt and know how to avoid making the same mistakes.
Its so sad that after your video a lot of victims of Junkie and BoxFox are starting to speak out, is sad because both of them have a lot of victims, my guys are just a bullies and harassers since a long time ago and nobody knew until now :/
Dude if I was in your shoes I would just say "Screw this" and upload the video. The video is about YOU, not anyone else. And honestly it's so weird to hear that all of that happened when all you wanted to do was upload your video about your story. It's just crazy how stuff like that can esculate.
This… This 2021 bingo board I have is… uh… it’s something. But in all seriousness, I am so sorry you went through this. Jesus Christ on a broomstick, this is a fire. A huge fire.
Fr, reminds me of simpler days like that one Pokémon drama JAR had that was prettt harmless in the long run. Atleast Junkie is being called out for his bullshit instead of keeping this all under wraps and getting away scot free
@@leoultimaupgraded9914 ya know, thinking back to all of that, it seems quaint in comparison. At the end of the day, the pokemon drama with Doodletones was more or less a bunch of idiots yelling at each other over pokemon, the shit in this drama was literally toxic.
(I left this comment on Hiten’s video, and I figured I should add it here for context as well): I have been out of the Ranting Community for a few years now (many old time Ranters May remember me as Grinding Gears). I disappeared back in 2016 due to semi-real life, but it was also for being targeted irl by people who found my address. I wouldn’t know until about 2.5 years later that it was the old ranting Hug-box echo chamber (Raging Red Heads (Miki & Shiva) Junkie (Miki’s BF at the time) IcyHazard, and LunaKaramura (BoxOvFox now) who found my address to “make me so stressed out that my cancer comes back and kills me. So, yeah, I didn’t make ranting videos after that for the sole safety of myself and my family because they’re all psychos. (An insider told me all of this info with screenshots, and when I confronted Luna about it in a public discord I found out they shared with me, they didn’t even deny it and simply said “bitch, let it go. Lmao”). So, yeah. TL;DR. Ranters are psychos and think you deserve to die just because you make fun of them on the Internet, and will go to some fucked up lengths to do so. Also, the only reason why I didn’t do anything when I found was because it was 2.5 years after the fact. Police wouldn’t be able to do anything because of Statute of Limitations. Anyway, glad to see that all of this is finally starting to get called out and these psychos are being taken down one by one. Down with the Ranting Community in general. Edit: To the point about Box/Luna accusing you of “recording calls to blackmail people”…. Well, you know how people will tend to accuse others of things they themselves (or others in their circle) do. Just saying.
aint you the girl that made those journals on DA about the ranters and misdirection comics about them and claimed you were gonna make this big video about them?
@@hearmiiout7602 I made a few journals when necessary. No, I didn’t make comics about them. And no I didn’t say there was going to be a big video about them. (Project 86 is going to be a big video about the piece of work that was the catalyst for the drama from August of 2016. It’s not a big video about them). But… nahhhhh committing federal crimes and attempted murder isn’t as important as petty little spats on the Internet by calling people “poo-poo heads”~! ^u^
@@MaddiiCake and did you also made those click bait troll videos to get the attention of the group you didn't like when a girl who goes by the name of lou lou made a video about you? plus it was obvious it was about them. there was one comic strip you made on da before it was delete after getting caught.
@@hearmiiout7602 Clickbait is when a title or thumbnail isn’t what the video is about, hence the name for a user to click on it because they were baited into watching said video. The titles of those videos were exactly what I talked about, thus no misleading whatsoever. I don’t make money off of videos and my channel isn’t one that Susan Wikipedia would like very much, so there would be no possible way for me to have benefitted from a clickbait video anyway. But… if You mean the videos that were made after Icy said “I dare you to make videos on us” and then proceeded to REEEEE about me making videos that were pseudo about them only because they’re narcissists that think (and to this day still think Project 86 is going to be about one of them). Then, yes, those were the ones I made. And the comic strip of Demon!Saki-that which was created as a crude and mud-slinging defaming representation of Saki (despite the title of the deviation being an anagram of Kura while not even looking like Kura’s design in the first place)-eating a Snicker’s bar… and was deleted because Icy REEE’d because she can’t handle the fact that I can take a joke that’s made at my expense despite the intention of the drawing was to piss me off. (I’ll say it before, again, and 100 times over…. If the only way for her to make actual good quality art is to piss her off… then I would continue pissing her off, which I did in the following years. That crude defaming representation of Saki was some top tier quality art that outshone anything in Icy’s Gallery at the time (I even told her that myself in a call she recorded with me, Mavi, and her BF Creepswork). But again…. Petty drama of people calling each other poo-poo heads is much worse than hiring a hit or Doxxing someone’s phone number and address, and just trying to get someone killed because, y’know, how dare they call you a poo-poo head~ ^u^
I understand how you feel completely I remember when my ex boyfriend tried to smear my reputation after our break up his friends even tried to frame me for cybercrimes.
I’ve been to hesitant to comment on this since I only talked about this in a few replies… But I NEVER liked Junkie. Ever since he made my bf look a lot worse in one of his “Ranters Gone Not Forgetton” videos. Mainly after critiquing his old videos. The critiques didn’t bother us, it was mainly how two face the video got after he was done critiquing he made it seem like my bf was a dick to him in calls when my bf told me he and Junkie were very chill with another and laughed at his humor. Of course I just thought they both had a miscommunication since my bf tends to well have a wise ass sense of humor and I feel like that should only be with close friends. So me being a supportive friend at the time for him (this occurred before we started dating) decided to comment and provide context so Junkie could understand my bf’s jokes and what he meant he’s using parts of his past self to poke fun with a character. At first Junkie was all “Oh hey I’m glad he’s improving and good for him!” And I thought it was a miscommunication but then THE DUDE HAD THE NERVE TO DELETE MY FUCKING COMMENT THE NEXT TIME I CHECKED. Not only that my bf felt guilty for making Junkie feel uncomfortable with a joke and he tried to dm him to give him an apology but the bastard just ignores him. Now looking back at that video, it really doesn’t age well. I love how this dude had the balls to say how my bf was spiteful towards his friends, when look what he did to fucking Manga Kamen. Seriously, go fuck yourself Junkie. Also, dude it my bf’s comment made you feel uncomfortable, you could had IDK MAYBE DM HIM. There was no need to make that comment public 🙄 sure the joke was kind of edgy but he said you had that humor before and in calls he said you thought you would get his humor since you acted differently towards him in calls. Aside from that, there was something about Junkie that I always had a gut feeling about. He always came off as those “holier than thou” people where they act like a fake entitled nice person just for money and views. I thought I was just being too pitty but I told my bf to not worry about Junkie because one day, he will piss off the wrong person and get Karma. And alas, here we are :3 Tired of people treating him like he’s the Jesus of the CC, he reminds me so much of Repzilla. >___< Call me over protective gf but this dude nearly destroyed my bf’s passions to make videos. But honestly, I’m glad he’s not doing ranting stuff anymore. This community has always been a toxic cesspool that turns people to the worse and it really shows.
@@youreverydayblackmage not sure if I really want to say who since he’s been burnt out be there cesspool of this community since, (unless he wants to comment here himself) all I can say he really did grow up and learned from his past mistakes. And it just pisses me off that Junkie made him look a lot worse than before. But that’s the common thing about commentators as JAR said, they can really twist your words and over exaggerate things for views. To admit, I felt for this trap when it came to controversy around JAR and Hopeless Peachess and blindly took their sides. Now I do think there are things JAR should improve on but at least he doesn’t fake a nice guy persona as Junkie does. (I will say his anti sjw videos didn’t age well and I get peoples critiques on them BUT then again, I too was a massive anti sjw piece of shit too at that time too. So I can’t really be one to judge, I do see he’s at least trying to improve and did make a genuine apology on things )
14:58 Okay no lie, I jumped because that feminine sounding voice who jumped in sounded exactly like someone who had personally hurt me and my friends severely and I was about to say "OH HELL NO, THEY'RE INVOLVED IN THIS TOO???". I'm just hoping its not since I'm not yet done watching this video.
You are most patient robot JAR Waiting the almost the whole year for collaboration I feel very disappointed of Junkie, BoxovFox and specially Seahorse Junkie for contribute misread information during Peaches drama, Box for persuade JAR's editors to quit and Seahorse making excuses and betraying JAR trust.
That really does suck though I watched the entire Sonic93 drama and thought boxovfox had so much potential it's a shame, but if you're doing fine JAR than that's all and well
I can believe it, Junkie leaking the script was the main if not the sole reason Hopeless Peaches got harrassed and targetted by Creepshow art and her goons. He never apologised for it, simply ran off like everyone would forget. I don't forget a snake.
its funny how box went on to be like "it wasnt blackmail, i was making a boundary." and yet, JAR's ultimatum abt posting a video abt HIS past on the BARE MINIMUM condition that "ppl dont lie or block you" isnt setting a boundary? so, if JAR is blackmailing ppl by setting boundaries then that means box did too lmao
“This is how it started out” *Ad time* Seriously though, I hope you’re doing better. This all seems like such a nightmare, not to mention what it all started with…
I find it funny how these people did videos on a user a year or two ago about someone backstabbing and being awful to her friends, yet now they do the same thing behind the scenes and since then have been in drama. With dead or infrequent channels to boot.
This may be just a weird assumption, but what if "Seahorse" was freaking out with you to not upload the video because it would out something very insane or something that he did? And he told these people aka BoxOvFox, Junkie and others about this, to play the victim card and to make sure what he did with what you are mentioning in your video wasn't his fault or something? This is just a crazy assumption I'm going with, but what if he's just asking you for more time to gather some more "victims" to fall for his lies...I dunno just a crazy assumption, you can think this is stupid. I'm so sorry you had to go through all of this JAR.
Well, that certainly clears up a lot of things; and I do mean A LOT of things. My heart goes out to you man; nobody should be subjected to that level of bullshit.
Throughout the drama i felt so bad for Kamen because I have seen a lot of people making claims on him with no proof whatsoever. And he is literally the only person I had a neutral stans on through out the entire situation. Sorry I should have been neutral towards everyone and that is a big mistake on my part. I still feel bad for Peaches, Jar and anyone else that was attacked. None of you deserved this kind of backlash. Criticism? Yes, but not h@rassment.
This is the second testimonial about Junkie being a duplicitous cur so far. I'm only remaining subscribed to him to get his side, but I doubt I will remain subbed to him considering the evidence you provided. As for Box, it's petty, yes, but she genuinely wants to remove herself from everything, which should be respected. People need to lay off of these creators regardless.
Shit like this just astounds me....Like....all this fucking drama and for what and why reason? Also it's suspicious they're so gung ho against you releasing a video about your past...like...were they involved? Did they know the people involved? Why are they so threatened by it being released?
Ah, yes. The Sonic93 story arc, where absolutely everyone was recording absolutely everyone else, and Ghost & Box had a "safe space" for people to share their secrets. Silver the Hedgehog was a mistake.
Boxovfox became sonic 93 and hearing there is a lot more about her that is terrible, I believe the situation was only use to cover her own tracks. Sonic93 is now laughing from behind the screen knowing the person that cause most of her downfall is suffering the same fate.
@@pippo17173 Let's not go crazy. Box had very, very, very little to do with Sonic93 canceling herself. If Sprite hadn't admitted to trying to trick Ghost into a gotcha moment, their discord wouldn't have turned into gossip central for every small creator that Sonic93 had ever screamed at.
I know this isn’t related to the topic at hand, but remember the mini drama Jar had with Doodletoons because she tried to debunk his points about a Top 10 video about the worlds most destructive Pokémon? That was kinda dumb but pretty harmless drama
Really when jar’s video comes out Im sure most will stand by him. But damn there was a lot of drama going on in the background for that video and I feel really bad for u there. Worse is that even after some dramas finally be resolved now there’s junkie, Carmin rider with her Twitter nonsense and Kai with his copyright beef. Shame that trouble follows u and manga Kamen so much otherwise you guys would be big chilling most of the time . Hopefully things go the as planned Jar and your patience is amazing considering the bs you went through.
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I think Carmen Rider is a girl, I get that she may be doing some bad stuff rn but you should still respect her pronouns and gender. That sucks though that both of them are also doing stupid stuff rn, can’t trust anyone nowadays
Gotta say you honestly have some gusto to do the things that you do. At some point, back I've debated about joining the commentary community but I quickly realized I wanted to discuss topics related to art and not people. I deal with a lot of pointing fingers and "he said, she said, they said" etc at work with kiddos and I can't imagine that sort of arguing scaled up and having to wade through it as an adult. It's certainly too rough for me, but I do appreciated level headed individuals like yourself who don't cherry pick things said, chats written, etc. out of context. It's refreshing to indulge in content I feel takes into consideration all sides of the story, and even from there I will pull my own conclusions after what has all been shared. Thank you for not self deleting and still being here JAR! I look forward to your next video~ 😊
There's something I've noticed about the two backstabbers involved here - and I don't care how that sounds. I've had my own experiences like this and if I had any conversation with JAR, I would tell him screw these A-holes and upload yesterday.
I apologise for the comment I made on the last video, after this I am honestly in pure shock. I am speechless at Junkie and Box like what the actual fuck you two? I'm sorry you've had to deal with this shit for a long time now, honestly you should just upload the video when you want to because these people really don't deserve any more chances imo. I am in support of you and I hope this entire mess clears up soon because this all sounds just so horrible, same for MangaKamen, ya'll deserve a big ass cake after all this
Yo'. Hopefully you're gonna' be alright , man. It's alright to leak private messages when it's absolutely necessary to show the truth in the instance said person is lying about you , and there is no shame in that , man. When it comes to Junkie (as much as I would like to) , I'm going to keep my mouth shut on anything mentioning him for my own personal reasons that you know of. Sadly , I have been where you are before as have alot of people. FuchsiaButter , BoxOvFox , MadLibbs , Nezzie Monster , Majesty , and more have spread false information on myself and those I care about before just to harm us and had it make absolutely no sense at all when all was said and done. The issue with when there are large commentators against small commentators is that people see the subscriber amount as how trustworthy they are , rather than how many fans they have accumulated. Thusly , everybody will usually just take their side of the story blindly without a care in the world. I used to not understand why you used a robot-filter and I thought it was a little dumb back in the day ; but properly understanding why now ... It makes sense as to why you would. I'm sorry you had to go through this all , man. 3:20 - That is absolutely incredible. Man ... Seahorse's computer be that edgy kid in the back of class ; but they were a trooper and kept trying despite those odds (XD). I don't get why people still try to hold the Tobi drama over your head. You're human , and everything you did right and everything you did wrong in that drama is old news. They need to just move on at this point , man ; but we know the CC ... They never will. ... Seahorse literally here saying you don't listen to people when you literally came to my rescue after I ATTACKED YOU WITH NO EVIDENCE , JUST PARANOIA ... It would have been much easier for you to just curb-stomp me ; but you came to my aid when everybody started taking turns on bashing me. You even got alot of extra heat for that and got involved in more drama for just being a decent guy who went out of his way to help. If I were in your shoes , I don't know if I'd be able to help out somebody who made false claims on me due to paranoia just a few months prior when they were getting destroyed. Aye. I remember that whole fiasco with Luke. You have Kai and Omnia and Majesty and Luke and all the Neo+Art-CC youTubers speaking about how you're racist non-stop , which I never saw personally in any of your videos. It made absolutely no sense as to why they would actually do as such. If there was definitive proof you were racist , I don't think you'd still be using your Just a Robot account to say the very least. People need to take a step back and properly look over all evidence first. BOXOVFOX! YES! I recently scared them off youTube and made them put their Twitter to private 'cause of what I have on them (XD)! This is going to be gooooooooooooooood. BoxOvFox really just dug their hole deeper by trying to get your editor to stop working with you. Like ... Did they not think there would be consequences to their actions? 25:39 sums up 90% of BoxOvFox's claims. 25:56 made me bust a gut. 27:56 BoxOvFox did the same with FryFilms and others because they were still associated with myself during the Nil vs Majesty drama. It really seems as though it's a repeating pattern for BoxOvFox to continue without realising the ramifications that shall soon follow due to how they're going about situations. 29:45 YOOOOO! MY MAIN MAN EME! WASSUP?! 31:52 YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! 32:08 SAVAGE! :D 33:18 Best ending.
Damn, I never thought Jar would lose his fucking mind over this (Not that I have a problem). I feel really sorry for what him and MangaKamen had gone through😔. What's with them always going after them? Like come on bruh😒
Probably because it’s flooded with children who think they know what they’re talking about and adults acting like children that never mentally matured.
Gosh, the messes this community gets into. The CC (and considering how much overlap there is constantly, I consider it one community, not many) has always seemed to be a manufactory for drama, and has seemed to really ramp up production in the past few years. I've often found myself hoping that I could find a handful of non-malicious, non-hypocritical, non-"jump to conclusions", non-"holier-than-thou", willing to fix their mistakes... commentators and just sit in those small circles and enjoy myself, but at this point it seems like almost everyone fails to check at least one(averaging three) of those boxes. Almost like such attitudes are a pre-req for commentators to work hard enough to succeed. I really hope all of these issues between parties can resolve eventually, and stay resolved, because it constantly feels like a school debate club where the supervisor is going "Okay, I know you are 'friends' or at least friendly with some of each other, but this week, you three are going to try to ruin the lives of you three, and if someone doesn't end up threatening legal proceedings, sharing childhood issues or starting a school-wide brawl by the end of this, you are all getting suspended." Also, wow, the moment you mentioned court, I had a foreboding feeling that I knew where this is going. The additional detail you mentioned after... Yeah 0_0 I see the pattern continued out of sight.
I'm sorry to hear your video about your past is taking a lot longer than expected all because of this BS. After hearing about what TheNamesJunkie did, I'm disappointed in him.
the video about my past and part 2 of it are now up:
ua-cam.com/video/m0ta4smjuNA/v-deo.html&t
ua-cam.com/video/VZ-WWhJezmA/v-deo.html&t
Same Video But With The Robot Voice:
ua-cam.com/video/Lh5qO6HTUdY/v-deo.html
Good news now I have proof of what BoxOVFox said:
twitter.com/Just_A_Robots/status/1455974617064091664
here's proof of what Majesty did, they only said sorry after Nil found it and they were trapped.
ua-cam.com/video/b_vdfZ0wBAk/v-deo.html
Also check out the video I just did with Harley:
ua-cam.com/video/M3kCAqEgvJo/v-deo.html
Edit:
32:07 BTW this was my roommates joke and he wanted me to tell you all it was his.
The Way I see it, if they want to make videos on me and lie about me then I have every right to debunk the clams made up about me.
@@JUSTAROBOT_AKA_JAR Lowkey this feels like some detective soap opera show from the 2000s... this is amazing
Excelsior buddy also no one should hurting good ol kamen buddy went a sh÷==%ty life but all people the right to be loved no how alienated or ostracized by society we love who we are and fight for what believe in with is why we are the human race! A race to choose to define and to govern with faith hope and LIBERTY PEOPLE OF THE INTERNET. May this beacon of hope of all us people begin soon if not now. FREEDOM
Justice is comming for the scumbags.
@@JUSTAROBOT_AKA_JAR What kind of clams are against you? Hard shell, round, bamboo? Tell us man! We can get starfish after them!
The fact that false pedo allegations are such a common thing is so disgusting. It makes it harder for people to take actual victims' allegations seriously. Honestly it needs to stop; it does harm to every party involved. It does harm to the accuser if they're caught on it; it harms the reputation of the accusee, and it SERIOUSLY hinders REAL victims from actually being taken seriously. Gross.
Even Holy Majesty is guilty of it despite being into underage furry characters in that way himself. He made a video where he called Yeagar a predator because she draws family friendly art of furry child characters (because she finds them cute, she does not want to do nasty stuff with them) and it only made the harassment she faced worse.
All I have to say is; nice going, Ghosty. You really defended Yeagar there. -_-
people that just spread false pedo allegations give zero fucks about child abuse, if they can use an allegation (wether is true or false) to ruin someone they don’t like reputation, they’ll gladly use it
I'm fully in support of you releasing your story at this point! Your story is completely your own right to discuss and if this video only includes your story (as you stated), I see no reason why you can't speak about it.
Stay safe JAR :)
Yo dude
Love the vids
YOOO HARLEY MY MANNNN TYSM FOR SUPPORTING JAR
Hey Harley :)
Hi Harley
Hey kiddo do you wanna know Who seahorse is
You're a lot more forgiving than I am.
As soon as I caught wind of them lying behind my back I woulda taken the kiddy gloves off. If they wanna play UwU victim then so be it.
I'll make sure people pity them after I'm through. I've dealt with shit like this out of the art community too many times to let a bunch of tweens talk me out of letting the truth be known.
You have my sympathy, JAR.
In real life, I honestly let them keep lying and let the people know who tell me (aka actual friends) so that it all builds up. I have people next to me who have seen evidence or know me enough to know what I say or how I would act.
Taking the back seat of your own drama and watching it is so amusing with the funny lies, but it's hard admitting when you're in the wrong but at least you're telling the truth at the end of the day
Damn, and I used to trust Box and Junkie. I'm really sorry Jar and Manga
Not terribly important, but I just want to mention Kamen added me to talk in that chat in 21:43 so I could help sort things out, and I left because Junkie and Phantom declined to talk about anything and left before anyone could communicate. I was in no way affiliated with Junkie or Phantom, nor did I play any parts in their decisions.
Are you teaming up
@@Wpoiyttvhfth stop asking.
@@kromer3797 no nigga
@@Wpoiyttvhfth I’m teaming up with your mom. To help her make a better son.
@@kromer3797stalker
You know, Jar? It sickens me that people lied behind your back and y'know I supported both Junkie and Sparrow and at the same time, I felt betrayed to be honest. Still, I wished you the best and take enough time as you need. If anything, the cc would've made a better start. But like in any community, there's going to be one person or more to make the community itself look worse.
Honestly I felt the same while watching. I am also watching Sparrow respond on her community tab and it just doesn't look any better from here. I do wish her well.
Great video Jar, I'm sorry you had to deal with so much bs, you are an awesome dude and I think you deserve better!
I appreciate that!
Jar’s memory chip is damaged he needs 2-4 business days the get it repaired
Technically 7, not only because I suck at my job but also because 7 is an amazing number and I will fight anyone who says otherwise in gladitorial combat.
I mean the alternative would take 420 business days, but its _waaaaay_ more fun
JAR u are precious and u dont need to commit anything no matter what mental issue or country invironment u live in every problem has a solution and im one of ppl who has ur back whenever u want to talk u know how to find me dont give up and ur natural voice is beautiful keep it going ❤💪🏻
I had tones AND TONES of more proof, this is only a 10th of what I got. But I'll let someone else use it, I think I'm done with Box and Majesty.
Wait a minute Lolla yoy are still around. I thought something bad happened to you.
@@JUSTAROBOT_AKA_JAR Tons*
@@shadowstar7388 tones*
@@alovekok9044 The plural of ton is tons. Tons are ambiguous and come in “flavors,” long, short and metric. In most countries, the metric ton, 1000 kg, is called a tonne; so if JAR meant metric tons, the correct spelling would be tonnes, making us both wrong. However, (and he can correct me if I'm wrong) I believe he meant many units of one ton. Tones refers to colour pallets, musical notes, and emotional content or underlying attitude. (IE John had an aggressive tone; his whole family had aggressive tones. OR I enjoyed the tone of the new album; I enjoyed its' many tones. )
Me and TheNamesJunkie use to be friends, he soon stopped messaging me and even when I tried to talk to him again he pushed me away. I think I dodged a bullet now. Im so sorry you went through this JAR
And this is why I’ve lost interest with the CC as a whole and don’t follow as many commentary channels as I use to. Nearly everyone in the community are backstabbing lunatics who form mobs on people for the hell of it. It’s so annoying. Good to know that the community is practically one big snake pit. Literally half of the BS within the community would’ve been squashed if people weren’t too busy being sneaky and petty and just talked to each other. 🤦🏾♀️
Yea, ironically I just stay followed to JAR, Kamen and Fuchsia at this point, with a few others. At the very least both Kamen and Fuchsia make other videos besides commentary, and JAR has a whole Power Scaling channel, so they’re kinda moving on from Commentary, but can’t really leave it since it’s been a part of their channels for a long time I guess. I’m just glad most of the major dramas are over. Sorry for ranting
I still check the old ones who didn't quit or got mirrored.
I had a bad run in with Boxovfox back in 2016 when they were Luna Karamura. They helped my stalker spread untrue rumors about me.
I’m sorry you had to go through this. I’ve been around manipulative, blackmailing, toxic, lying, backstabbing, narcissistic people myself and I can attest that it hurts and it sucks what they did to me. I’ve been watching you since 2017 and I look forward to seeing the video about your past. Remember you are loved. Don’t let anyone get you down, and never change who you are to appease them. ❤️
I'll be looking forward to your video about your past. You have my full support.
Aw jeez, ain't that a whole new can of worms.
Honestly, I was wondering why Junkie was taking so much time on clarifying some misinformation on Tobi/Peaches drama and now I know why. Woooow
He really cant now because I'm pretty all his close contacts are catching on how dumb this is.
"this is how the call started"
*call of duty ad plays*
I love timing.
man watching more videos on the commentary community makes you realize how big of a rabbit hole this entire community is.
literally I'm a outsider and yet knew pretty much most of the people mentioned.
hope you've recovered from the past now jar.
makes me really speculate that "friend group" that seemed to form there but who am I to judge, I'm just a outsider.
MangaKamen is clearly the victim when it came from the Discord Chat. Because he was really taking the chance to rekindle the friendship he has with Junkie. So I have no understanding why Junkie thought it was a good idea to call this "Blackmailing" in the first place? I ledgit don't see the logic, sure I can see why Junkie assume he wasn't completely in the wrong, because he simply made an honest though avoidable, mistake. And I believe MangaKamen assumed the same and decided to give him another chance.
Sorry for making a huge talk on this end, because when you have friends that can tolerate your shortcomings and still willing to accept you, never betray that good will, it never end well and it shows. To me it appears Junkie was never really a friend, because if he really cared he shouldn't break that trust completely afterwards, I know that sounds rather heartless, but given this entire situation. I have my suspicion to believe that.
(My personal belief is friends are invaluable and should be treated as such)
It’s insane watching all of the ranters that I got a weird vibe from as a kid fall from the community. I thought I was being paranoid and judgemental, but my gut was right, it was right when other people told me it was wrong.
People who spend copious amounts of time being angry and dragging other people’s baggage into the spotlight can’t be all together themselves.
I think the main reason why Junkie backstabbed you and MangaKamen was to gain favour with the bigger channels. Because at the time, hating Peaches was the more popular opinion. So he joined the side he thought would win instead of siding for what was right.
And he lost.
That certainly backfired on him hard.
I like JAR, he always comes across as a decent person to me.
True
I agree
Eh maybe it’s his old videos but he always come across as a right leaning jerk
@@razminfox1787 Compared to the other remaining anti-SJWs, from back in the day, JAR might be the only one who isn't hiding in a hugbox of wingnuts and edgelords, still talking about Brie Larson.
@@razminfox1787 maybe, JAR seemed alot nicer than the other Anti-SJW youtubers at the time and atleast he didn't accidentally became a Alt Right like Hunter Avalon(?) did
I have so many mixed feelings because now it feels like Junkie was the biggest snake in the Hopeless Peaches drama that was with Omnia and Kai. I’m so upset Junkie did this shit because man he hurt so many people doing this. I want to unsub to him so badly like Jesus.
@JustACommenter I don’t think omnia is as much of a snake as everyone else but rather can be blinded by her emotions? I honestly think Junkie painted it like one way to omnia because he seems to love twisting the narrative and trying to paint things as one way or the other. I kinda feel that’s what happened in omnia’s case. She had genuine beef with peaches but it feels like junkie just ignited something that should’ve been left alone on purpose. Like Jar even said he wanted junkie to clarify to omnia which he never did but either way with how the drama has unfolded into other ones? Yeah it’s just a really bloody pond at this point and Junkie was the first to throw the blood in.
What's done in the dark comes to the light eventually. The CC is basically one big giant snake pit at this point. The situation with Holy Majesty was stupid. You made three videos on someone declaring them your nemesis, but as soon as they mention you for 30 seconds in one video, you make a whole entire video lying and crying about them and then telling them to leave you alone. Holy Majesty has an ego problem in my opinion. Junkie has an instigating problem where he just makes situations worse.
@@Q-Bey oooooof not only that but a certain youtuber recently spoke out about junkie ripping apart an old rant video made on him, there's a part were the youtuber spoke about how he was groomed and getting emotional and junkie makes it out to be like it's not a big deal or not important at all that that shit happened to him, you can even hear the emotion in his voice when he called it out. It broke my heart hearing that.
@@metalhead3541 Holy shit for real? Link me this video. That's fucking horrific and Junkie is awful for doing such a thing. I hope he fucking leaves now... Almost want someone to make a "ranters/commenters gone but not forgotten" on Junkie if this shit is true! Jesus christ I'm now scared everyone is secretly a piece of shit.
@@Q-Bey I think my comment was deleted, just look up thenamesjunky and you'll probably stumble upon it, it was uploaded not too long ago.
"I don't know if I can be friends with you if you're still friends with them"
good, no one wants a fake friend anyway.
Hi. Just for context:
Before the first call with Junkie happened. Manga Kamen asked me to join it to both keep things level, and for moral support. I'm the one talking about how the community problems could be solved if everyone would just talked like adults. And while your statement about some people just wanting drama is true....that point still stands.
When Junkie released his video, and he and his editor got stupid about Kamen (and made it clear they don't know anything about wire-tapping laws..), we tried to talk to them again. And they bailed.
The commentary community is 60% snakes, and 39% cowards. How or why anyone puts stock into the opinions of these clowns when they've proven they have glass jaws is beyond me. The way people treated both Kamen AND Peaches is unacceptable.
Surprised you haven't done a video on it to call them out on it
@JustACommenter fair point
@@youreverydayblackmage I had one planned, but it was put on the back burner for multiple reasons.
@@Lio_Convoy ah okie dokie
No
Junkie framed princess ash
I say take your time. Rushing anything is a terrible idea.
It's been full edited for over a year
@@JUSTAROBOT_AKA_JAR Fair.
@@Garaa0fTheRage yes look at cyber punk
I was already annoyed with Junkie for being such a flip flop. I didn't know he was acting so snakey. I had pretty good opinions about Junkie. From when he defended Wolfychu when she was being hated for stupid reasons and his critiques of PKrussel. But man this is just snakey behaviour. I feel especially bad for Manga, he sounded pretty emotional in that call.
I do have one small critique though JAR. In the segment when you talk about the call you repeated yourself quite often. Completely valid points! But you kept saying them over and over.
kind of ironic for junkie to involve himself in drama that was similar to the spoctor drama but worse
overall, jar, hoping to see the video of your past, please take care
I stick with the claim that the CC has an emotional maturity problem XD
yeah after watching this and the kai drama youre 1000% right dude
haha oh no just the perfect cycle. The commentary community has the capability to fuel itself. They don't have to find sources to comment on outside themselves anymore
@@ClingyKiwi which comes back to a problem with a lack of emotional maturity. I mean, it's not very mature to overreact on every little mouse fart or make a mount out of a mole hill, is it?
@@FeldiArts we don't have a disagreement on this
Just a robot I think you need new friends... I can be that friend🥺
I know it’s been a long while since all of this happened, I’ll be completely honest I regret listening to Creepshow back when all the Peaches drama happened. I thought Peaches was just another UA-camr who ended up ruining their own platform when in reality it was Creepshow and a few others. Glad that everything is peaceful now and both you and Peaches are doing better can’t wait to see the video you have in the works ya mentioned!
I thought that Junkie was a reasonable guy, but dang, never thought he was like this behind the scenes and Sparrow? Oh dearie, that's a big oof.
This is why I'm skeptical of trusting who I let in my friend group because something like this could happen.
I wanted to point this out as this was a good example of BoxOvFox, I was dealing with major anger issues (I have Autism, which, It's not something for clout and shit, but, the part of Autism is Uncontrollable emotions which is common) I wanted to ask for help from BoxOvFox but turned around and said no EVEN THOUGH she said HERSELF that she can "help anyone in needed" By her saying no and blocking the people the person is helping, there isolated and often leading to terrible consequences (yes, I know about those phone-numbers and hotlines but at the time I didn't want to call them) I just found kind of funny that she would be in this sort of shtick (before you ask, Box had a group and I left and I unfriended) I completely left myself away from Box and continued on with JAR and Spocktor (who are my favorite CCs ATM) and then this video came up and I was like: "HAAAAAAA! That's what I thought, Karma from the past slapped back to reality!" I would've danced but, just the way I reacted was all I needed.
I'm on your side, JAR, just know that the video is in your hands, you may use it wisely...Thank you...
Man she really dropped hard after her spotlight in the sonic 93 fiasco.
This video has a very similar feeling as Mr.Enter's video on his online Harassment.
Bruh the Persona music got me wanting to play Persona, and it’s midnight as I’m watching this.
I hope that u r oki and feeling better, and this same thing happened to me like a few months back, it sucked and like I had the same thoughts and everything, it takes alot to tell ur side and that's a brave thing, I stand with u (even tho u dont have a clue who I am or anything but still I support u)
This definitely explains why BoxofFox yeeting herself off of youtube is a thing and now that video she made sounds more like damage control. Greeeeeat....
Wouldn’t be the first time Box/LunaKaramura has done damage control. It’s been that way for years. It’s just a cycle they go through at this point
They left for their mental health and physical health. And the only other factor is JAR and his team sent hate mobs after them to the point they had to delete all their old accounts.
@@MaddiiCake Says someone who believes JAR's every word with baited breath.
@@kegrimm4160 the Burden of proof falls on the accuser. Can you show the DMs from JAR himself telling people to do this?
@@kegrimm4160 there’s a difference between believing hearsay and believing substantial evidence
anytime someone unironically says "usually i'm a chill person but they saw my scary side," they're always a really toxic person lol
Mangakamen is kinda my idol in this community so seeing him break down really hurt
I’m just confused about this entire ordeal entirely. I guess the only person I can enjoy without feeling scummy is Ponder.
Also sorry for my comment on the Majesty thing, I need to get better at waiting for info to drop before making accusations haha- I’m a dumb boi. My brain just likes to react to things, especially at night when I’m like half awake.
K
We all make mistakes. At least you are mature enough to apologize and not bury your head in the sand.
Sorry that you went through that BS you seem like a nice guy.
Yeah, Junkie has a tendency to block people, I mean he did it to me.
The fact that manga was trying to do what twilight and her friends would have done to use friendship is magic Junkie completely went the different direction and didn’t omit to the fact that he messed up so badly that he completely lost trust with those he worked with in the past. I just feel bad for him
Imma pull my pegasa-sister card and say it reminded me of the scene where Chrysalis had a chance to join her returned hive, but completely rejected Starlight's offer believing she was in the right. And not admitting that she wasn't a good queen for her hive and her leadership had her hive in a constant hungry state.
Don't feel bad for Junkie, dude is a backstabber and a coward. Dude fled Internet to evade consequences from his own actions, yet was all too happy to call out other users for theirs.
Reading the comments of people who were involved in the drama is like watching war vets meet up.
Now I understand what people feel like after the creepshowart drama.
I wasn't a fan of Creepshowart but I was into watching these people back in the day.
And to know about ALL this is just giving me that jabbing feeling of betrayal somehow that Creepshowart fans felt.
Sure, I never talked to Junkie, Ghost exe nor Sparrow but I did in a way admired em.
To see this stuff happen, it just leaves a bad feeling in me that's hard to describe.
Ughh...
Feeling is mutual. I was someone into creepshowart for entertainment. But it looks like getting attached to anyone on youtube is a bad idea.
I'm sorry you had to go through all of this. I'm glad you got to tell your story
Ha-ha. Oh, dont worry, JAR. I have tons of reasons to hate Kai and Omnia regardless. But this is not important. The important thing is that it's really sad that people who once saved Spoctor right now going to the same path as Stories and Pentagrin once.
Story is really indeed doomed to repeat itself untill we learn a lesson.
But commentary community and western as a whole show that people only pretend to understand what is bad and what is good.
I'm not shocked junkie did this considering he overblown miss zi-zi calling Kai a simp but defend Luke calling peaches a suicide baiter. Was miss zi-zi being immature calling Kai that? Yes, but let's not act like that is worse than accusing someone of faking suicidal thoughts and baiting for sympathy that lead to peaches receiving harassment over it.
Hope you feel better Jar!
It sucks that you have to deal with this, man! We are here for you.
Okay so I listened to this as background noise while playing video games, and I legit thought JAR was joking around with the convo between Box and the editor
But nah, he was reading it word for word
Box really did just come off as someone who doesn't mind their own business, a bad friend, -(Imagine telling someone you wouldn't be friends with them if they were friends/working with someone else, low key putting your friend/coworker in a tight situation. If you don't want to be friends/work with someone, then don't be friends/work with them, don't make them pick and choose)- and was being kinda cringey.
Wouldn't trust the person that says they're nice until you piss them off, false or not thats a bit of a scary statement. And just didn't really seem to know the situation, as far as I'm aware; they just heard it from word of mouth, no screenshots if I heard this right
0/10, would not want someone like that as a friend/coworker. I'd be slightly miffed and afraid if a buddy went up to me like this.
If Box wanted to defend some friends/victims, they should've handled the whole thing better, I'm disappointed
Box/LunaKaramura has always been this way for years. They insert themselves into any drama they can get in with. The Raging Red Heads and IcyHazard vs Grinding Gears back when they all used to be friends. That was back in 2015. So, take that as you will.
Box/Luna has always been this way. They won’t change (because people don’t change in General)
This whole drama is like a roller-coaster. When you think it's over, it keeps going, and the longer it goes the more sickening it gets. I had to watch this video a few times to really get a grasp on what was happening along with some other videos.
Box honestly feels like they are wanting to get the last stab of the knife in. I gave Sparrow the benefit of the doubt, but after seeing the claims they were making on Twitter don't really hold up to anything they were saying. If Sparrow really wants people to move on, then they need to just drop it. It's not hard to do.
Junkie on the other hand...I want to say I'm mad and disgusted, but I am more disappointed in. He always seems so chill and at least understanding, but his videos and personality is a curtain that hides how he really is. When I watched Jasp's video in particular, I almost broke into tears after hearing how he treated Jesp. If Junkie really has any dignity, he needs to acknowledge what is going on and take some responsibility. And it sucks because I still enjoy Junkie's videos, but now I can't see him the same with how he has hurt so many people.
The only thing I can see that you did as a mistake here JAR is like you said in the video, you were a bit too nice to "seahorse" and held off on uploading the video about your past, but I am at least happy that you finally did it and you didn't wait until December.
If you ever go back to touch on the Tobi drama, I just only hope you won't make the same mistake as last time and I don't think you will. You seem to understand what exactly went wrong with the first attempt and know how to avoid making the same mistakes.
Junkie seems to have fled.
No wonder Junkie left commentary altogether.
Yeah, he's trying to avoid consequences.
Sometimes it seems like it’s JAR vs everyone, like no one should have to defend themselves against stupid stuff this much
Its so sad that after your video a lot of victims of Junkie and BoxFox are starting to speak out, is sad because both of them have a lot of victims, my guys are just a bullies and harassers since a long time ago and nobody knew until now :/
Dude if I was in your shoes I would just say "Screw this" and upload the video. The video is about YOU, not anyone else. And honestly it's so weird to hear that all of that happened when all you wanted to do was upload your video about your story. It's just crazy how stuff like that can esculate.
It does have this unique "old tumblr" taste. Anyway, thanks for sharing!
Also this video is nutty I love it and finally we're getting the video officially! Also great video JAR!
Honestly I'm thinking of unsubing to TheNamesJunkie after what happened with MangaKamen and this video.
This… This 2021 bingo board I have is… uh… it’s something.
But in all seriousness, I am so sorry you went through this. Jesus Christ on a broomstick, this is a fire. A huge fire.
This situation is just-
Damn, that sucks.
Fr, reminds me of simpler days like that one Pokémon drama JAR had that was prettt harmless in the long run. Atleast Junkie is being called out for his bullshit instead of keeping this all under wraps and getting away scot free
@@leoultimaupgraded9914 ya know, thinking back to all of that, it seems quaint in comparison. At the end of the day, the pokemon drama with Doodletones was more or less a bunch of idiots yelling at each other over pokemon, the shit in this drama was literally toxic.
(I left this comment on Hiten’s video, and I figured I should add it here for context as well):
I have been out of the Ranting Community for a few years now (many old time Ranters May remember me as Grinding Gears). I disappeared back in 2016 due to semi-real life, but it was also for being targeted irl by people who found my address. I wouldn’t know until about 2.5 years later that it was the old ranting Hug-box echo chamber (Raging Red Heads (Miki & Shiva) Junkie (Miki’s BF at the time) IcyHazard, and LunaKaramura (BoxOvFox now) who found my address to “make me so stressed out that my cancer comes back and kills me. So, yeah, I didn’t make ranting videos after that for the sole safety of myself and my family because they’re all psychos. (An insider told me all of this info with screenshots, and when I confronted Luna about it in a public discord I found out they shared with me, they didn’t even deny it and simply said “bitch, let it go. Lmao”).
So, yeah. TL;DR. Ranters are psychos and think you deserve to die just because you make fun of them on the Internet, and will go to some fucked up lengths to do so.
Also, the only reason why I didn’t do anything when I found was because it was 2.5 years after the fact. Police wouldn’t be able to do anything because of Statute of Limitations.
Anyway, glad to see that all of this is finally starting to get called out and these psychos are being taken down one by one.
Down with the Ranting Community in general.
Edit: To the point about Box/Luna accusing you of “recording calls to blackmail people”…. Well, you know how people will tend to accuse others of things they themselves (or others in their circle) do. Just saying.
aint you the girl that made those journals on DA about the ranters and misdirection comics about them and claimed you were gonna make this big video about them?
@@hearmiiout7602 I made a few journals when necessary. No, I didn’t make comics about them. And no I didn’t say there was going to be a big video about them. (Project 86 is going to be a big video about the piece of work that was the catalyst for the drama from August of 2016. It’s not a big video about them).
But… nahhhhh committing federal crimes and attempted murder isn’t as important as petty little spats on the Internet by calling people “poo-poo heads”~! ^u^
@@MaddiiCake and did you also made those click bait troll videos to get the attention of the group you didn't like when a girl who goes by the name of lou lou made a video about you? plus it was obvious it was about them. there was one comic strip you made on da before it was delete after getting caught.
@@hearmiiout7602 Clickbait is when a title or thumbnail isn’t what the video is about, hence the name for a user to click on it because they were baited into watching said video. The titles of those videos were exactly what I talked about, thus no misleading whatsoever. I don’t make money off of videos and my channel isn’t one that Susan Wikipedia would like very much, so there would be no possible way for me to have benefitted from a clickbait video anyway.
But… if You mean the videos that were made after Icy said “I dare you to make videos on us” and then proceeded to REEEEE about me making videos that were pseudo about them only because they’re narcissists that think (and to this day still think Project 86 is going to be about one of them). Then, yes, those were the ones I made.
And the comic strip of Demon!Saki-that which was created as a crude and mud-slinging defaming representation of Saki (despite the title of the deviation being an anagram of Kura while not even looking like Kura’s design in the first place)-eating a Snicker’s bar… and was deleted because Icy REEE’d because she can’t handle the fact that I can take a joke that’s made at my expense despite the intention of the drawing was to piss me off. (I’ll say it before, again, and 100 times over…. If the only way for her to make actual good quality art is to piss her off… then I would continue pissing her off, which I did in the following years. That crude defaming representation of Saki was some top tier quality art that outshone anything in Icy’s Gallery at the time (I even told her that myself in a call she recorded with me, Mavi, and her BF Creepswork).
But again…. Petty drama of people calling each other poo-poo heads is much worse than hiring a hit or Doxxing someone’s phone number and address, and just trying to get someone killed because, y’know, how dare they call you a poo-poo head~ ^u^
@@MaddiiCake you know i almost forgot how utterly passive aggressive you are and thinking its cute.
I understand how you feel completely I remember when my ex boyfriend tried to smear my reputation after our break up his friends even tried to frame me for cybercrimes.
I’ve been to hesitant to comment on this since I only talked about this in a few replies…
But I NEVER liked Junkie. Ever since he made my bf look a lot worse in one of his “Ranters Gone Not Forgetton” videos. Mainly after critiquing his old videos. The critiques didn’t bother us, it was mainly how two face the video got after he was done critiquing he made it seem like my bf was a dick to him in calls when my bf told me he and Junkie were very chill with another and laughed at his humor.
Of course I just thought they both had a miscommunication since my bf tends to well have a wise ass sense of humor and I feel like that should only be with close friends. So me being a supportive friend at the time for him (this occurred before we started dating) decided to comment and provide context so Junkie could understand my bf’s jokes and what he meant he’s using parts of his past self to poke fun with a character. At first Junkie was all “Oh hey I’m glad he’s improving and good for him!” And I thought it was a miscommunication but then THE DUDE HAD THE NERVE TO DELETE MY FUCKING COMMENT THE NEXT TIME I CHECKED.
Not only that my bf felt guilty for making Junkie feel uncomfortable with a joke and he tried to dm him to give him an apology but the bastard just ignores him.
Now looking back at that video, it really doesn’t age well. I love how this dude had the balls to say how my bf was spiteful towards his friends, when look what he did to fucking Manga Kamen.
Seriously, go fuck yourself Junkie.
Also, dude it my bf’s comment made you feel uncomfortable, you could had IDK MAYBE DM HIM. There was no need to make that comment public 🙄 sure the joke was kind of edgy but he said you had that humor before and in calls he said you thought you would get his humor since you acted differently towards him in calls.
Aside from that, there was something about Junkie that I always had a gut feeling about. He always came off as those “holier than thou” people where they act like a fake entitled nice person just for money and views. I thought I was just being too pitty but I told my bf to not worry about Junkie because one day, he will piss off the wrong person and get Karma. And alas, here we are :3
Tired of people treating him like he’s the Jesus of the CC, he reminds me so much of Repzilla. >___<
Call me over protective gf but this dude nearly destroyed my bf’s passions to make videos. But honestly, I’m glad he’s not doing ranting stuff anymore. This community has always been a toxic cesspool that turns people to the worse and it really shows.
Which ranters gone not forgotten video was it?
@@youreverydayblackmage not sure if I really want to say who since he’s been burnt out be there cesspool of this community since, (unless he wants to comment here himself) all I can say he really did grow up and learned from his past mistakes. And it just pisses me off that Junkie made him look a lot worse than before.
But that’s the common thing about commentators as JAR said, they can really twist your words and over exaggerate things for views.
To admit, I felt for this trap when it came to controversy around JAR and Hopeless Peachess and blindly took their sides. Now I do think there are things JAR should improve on but at least he doesn’t fake a nice guy persona as Junkie does. (I will say his anti sjw videos didn’t age well and I get peoples critiques on them BUT then again, I too was a massive anti sjw piece of shit too at that time too. So I can’t really be one to judge, I do see he’s at least trying to improve and did make a genuine apology on things )
@Deiscan ah okie dokie
@@little-miss-horror6036 ah okie dokie
@Deiscan you are correct that's who's she's talking about & here I am~
14:58 Okay no lie, I jumped because that feminine sounding voice who jumped in sounded exactly like someone who had personally hurt me and my friends severely and I was about to say "OH HELL NO, THEY'RE INVOLVED IN THIS TOO???". I'm just hoping its not since I'm not yet done watching this video.
MOOD
Holy shit Junkies sounds like my sister’s controlling boyfriend.
Yikes 😱
Hey fam hope your sister is going to be okay. Sending my best wishes.
the shit show afterwards is gonna be amazing
You are most patient robot JAR
Waiting the almost the whole year for collaboration
I feel very disappointed of Junkie, BoxovFox and specially Seahorse
Junkie for contribute misread information during Peaches drama, Box for persuade JAR's editors to quit and Seahorse making excuses and betraying JAR trust.
I'm sorry you had to deal with that.
Sounds like Justice Will FINALLY be served.
Now that's music to my ears.
That really does suck though I watched the entire Sonic93 drama and thought boxovfox had so much potential it's a shame, but if you're doing fine JAR than that's all and well
I can't believe junkie and box did that.
I've lost all respect for them.
I can believe it, Junkie leaking the script was the main if not the sole reason Hopeless Peaches got harrassed and targetted by Creepshow art and her goons. He never apologised for it, simply ran off like everyone would forget.
I don't forget a snake.
@JustACommenter What did he do during the Spoctor Drama?
@JustACommenter ah look! Another person who’s only here to comment!
@JustACommenter Ah, okay.
I am…so sorry you had to deal with this, JAR.
its funny how box went on to be like "it wasnt blackmail, i was making a boundary." and yet, JAR's ultimatum abt posting a video abt HIS past on the BARE MINIMUM condition that "ppl dont lie or block you" isnt setting a boundary? so, if JAR is blackmailing ppl by setting boundaries then that means box did too lmao
This has more turns and twist as if it's a whole season of Kakegurui
“Until I listen to the call for myself and this is how it started out…” *ad plays*
“This is how it started out”
*Ad time*
Seriously though, I hope you’re doing better. This all seems like such a nightmare, not to mention what it all started with…
Box of fox calling themselves a good person sounds scarily like Onision calling himself honest XD
U have my full support JAR u have every right to share you're story
I find it funny how these people did videos on a user a year or two ago about someone backstabbing and being awful to her friends, yet now they do the same thing behind the scenes and since then have been in drama. With dead or infrequent channels to boot.
This may be just a weird assumption, but what if "Seahorse" was freaking out with you to not upload the video because it would out something very insane or something that he did? And he told these people aka BoxOvFox, Junkie and others about this, to play the victim card and to make sure what he did with what you are mentioning in your video wasn't his fault or something? This is just a crazy assumption I'm going with, but what if he's just asking you for more time to gather some more "victims" to fall for his lies...I dunno just a crazy assumption, you can think this is stupid. I'm so sorry you had to go through all of this JAR.
Well, that certainly clears up a lot of things; and I do mean A LOT of things. My heart goes out to you man; nobody should be subjected to that level of bullshit.
Throughout the drama i felt so bad for Kamen because I have seen a lot of people making claims on him with no proof whatsoever. And he is literally the only person I had a neutral stans on through out the entire situation. Sorry I should have been neutral towards everyone and that is a big mistake on my part. I still feel bad for Peaches, Jar and anyone else that was attacked. None of you deserved this kind of backlash. Criticism? Yes, but not h@rassment.
This is the second testimonial about Junkie being a duplicitous cur so far. I'm only remaining subscribed to him to get his side, but I doubt I will remain subbed to him considering the evidence you provided. As for Box, it's petty, yes, but she genuinely wants to remove herself from everything, which should be respected. People need to lay off of these creators regardless.
Shit like this just astounds me....Like....all this fucking drama and for what and why reason? Also it's suspicious they're so gung ho against you releasing a video about your past...like...were they involved? Did they know the people involved? Why are they so threatened by it being released?
Ah, yes. The Sonic93 story arc, where absolutely everyone was recording absolutely everyone else, and Ghost & Box had a "safe space" for people to share their secrets. Silver the Hedgehog was a mistake.
Boxovfox became sonic 93 and hearing there is a lot more about her that is terrible, I believe the situation was only use to cover her own tracks. Sonic93 is now laughing from behind the screen knowing the person that cause most of her downfall is suffering the same fate.
@@pippo17173 Let's not go crazy. Box had very, very, very little to do with Sonic93 canceling herself. If Sprite hadn't admitted to trying to trick Ghost into a gotcha moment, their discord wouldn't have turned into gossip central for every small creator that Sonic93 had ever screamed at.
I know this isn’t related to the topic at hand, but remember the mini drama Jar had with Doodletoons because she tried to debunk his points about a Top 10 video about the worlds most destructive Pokémon? That was kinda dumb but pretty harmless drama
Really when jar’s video comes out Im sure most will stand by him. But damn there was a lot of drama going on in the background for that video and I feel really bad for u there. Worse is that even after some dramas finally be resolved now there’s junkie, Carmin rider with her Twitter nonsense and Kai with his copyright beef. Shame that trouble follows u and manga Kamen so much otherwise you guys would be big chilling most of the time . Hopefully things go the as planned Jar and your patience is amazing considering the bs you went through.
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@@Succatag67789 Random history but ok
@@acemaison2834 even more history ua-cam.com/video/EhEINCwp9wY/v-deo.html
I think Carmen Rider is a girl, I get that she may be doing some bad stuff rn but you should still respect her pronouns and gender. That sucks though that both of them are also doing stupid stuff rn, can’t trust anyone nowadays
@@leoultimaupgraded9914 oh yea ur right and thanks I’ll fix that . Sorry about misconceptions
Gotta say you honestly have some gusto to do the things that you do. At some point, back I've debated about joining the commentary community but I quickly realized I wanted to discuss topics related to art and not people. I deal with a lot of pointing fingers and "he said, she said, they said" etc at work with kiddos and I can't imagine that sort of arguing scaled up and having to wade through it as an adult.
It's certainly too rough for me, but I do appreciated level headed individuals like yourself who don't cherry pick things said, chats written, etc. out of context. It's refreshing to indulge in content I feel takes into consideration all sides of the story, and even from there I will pull my own conclusions after what has all been shared.
Thank you for not self deleting and still being here JAR! I look forward to your next video~ 😊
Im so sorry jar that your having to go through this ive been a fan for a long time and will continue to be a fan
There's something I've noticed about the two backstabbers involved here - and I don't care how that sounds. I've had my own experiences like this and if I had any conversation with JAR, I would tell him screw these A-holes and upload yesterday.
Junkies partner Mori is a real piece of work too. And stay cautious around Eme, JAR. He's not as great as he pretends to be.
Oof.
I apologise for the comment I made on the last video, after this I am honestly in pure shock. I am speechless at Junkie and Box like what the actual fuck you two? I'm sorry you've had to deal with this shit for a long time now, honestly you should just upload the video when you want to because these people really don't deserve any more chances imo. I am in support of you and I hope this entire mess clears up soon because this all sounds just so horrible, same for MangaKamen, ya'll deserve a big ass cake after all this
It's cool, I'm used to people thinking I'm a nutty and bad person.
@@JUSTAROBOT_AKA_JAR sending all appreciation and support to you Jar! You really don't deserve this entire ordeal
What was their plan? To just keep delaying you for two months at a time for all eternity? They didn't seem to think this thing through at all.
Yo'. Hopefully you're gonna' be alright , man.
It's alright to leak private messages when it's absolutely necessary to show the truth in the instance said person is lying about you , and there is no shame in that , man.
When it comes to Junkie (as much as I would like to) , I'm going to keep my mouth shut on anything mentioning him for my own personal reasons that you know of.
Sadly , I have been where you are before as have alot of people. FuchsiaButter , BoxOvFox , MadLibbs , Nezzie Monster , Majesty , and more have spread false information on myself and those I care about before just to harm us and had it make absolutely no sense at all when all was said and done. The issue with when there are large commentators against small commentators is that people see the subscriber amount as how trustworthy they are , rather than how many fans they have accumulated. Thusly , everybody will usually just take their side of the story blindly without a care in the world.
I used to not understand why you used a robot-filter and I thought it was a little dumb back in the day ; but properly understanding why now ... It makes sense as to why you would. I'm sorry you had to go through this all , man.
3:20 - That is absolutely incredible.
Man ... Seahorse's computer be that edgy kid in the back of class ; but they were a trooper and kept trying despite those odds (XD).
I don't get why people still try to hold the Tobi drama over your head. You're human , and everything you did right and everything you did wrong in that drama is old news. They need to just move on at this point , man ; but we know the CC ... They never will.
... Seahorse literally here saying you don't listen to people when you literally came to my rescue after I ATTACKED YOU WITH NO EVIDENCE , JUST PARANOIA ... It would have been much easier for you to just curb-stomp me ; but you came to my aid when everybody started taking turns on bashing me. You even got alot of extra heat for that and got involved in more drama for just being a decent guy who went out of his way to help. If I were in your shoes , I don't know if I'd be able to help out somebody who made false claims on me due to paranoia just a few months prior when they were getting destroyed.
Aye. I remember that whole fiasco with Luke. You have Kai and Omnia and Majesty and Luke and all the Neo+Art-CC youTubers speaking about how you're racist non-stop , which I never saw personally in any of your videos. It made absolutely no sense as to why they would actually do as such. If there was definitive proof you were racist , I don't think you'd still be using your Just a Robot account to say the very least. People need to take a step back and properly look over all evidence first.
BOXOVFOX! YES! I recently scared them off youTube and made them put their Twitter to private 'cause of what I have on them (XD)! This is going to be gooooooooooooooood.
BoxOvFox really just dug their hole deeper by trying to get your editor to stop working with you. Like ... Did they not think there would be consequences to their actions? 25:39 sums up 90% of BoxOvFox's claims. 25:56 made me bust a gut.
27:56 BoxOvFox did the same with FryFilms and others because they were still associated with myself during the Nil vs Majesty drama. It really seems as though it's a repeating pattern for BoxOvFox to continue without realising the ramifications that shall soon follow due to how they're going about situations.
29:45 YOOOOO! MY MAIN MAN EME! WASSUP?!
31:52 YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!
32:08 SAVAGE! :D
33:18 Best ending.
it me.
@@princeeme1229 IT YOU!
You’ve been mvp finding out info. I wanna say props for that Nil. 🙌
Damn, I never thought Jar would lose his fucking mind over this (Not that I have a problem). I feel really sorry for what him and MangaKamen had gone through😔. What's with them always going after them? Like come on bruh😒
@@Q-Bey I'm not an MVP at finding stuff. That title actually goes to Eme in this specific scenario. They found most the people.
Gone and should be forgotten: TheNamesJunkie
JAR, why is UA-cam like a shitty high school drama?
Because it is, unfortunately! Playing stupid games, to win stupid prizes!
*High School Never Ends intensifies*
Probably because it’s flooded with children who think they know what they’re talking about and adults acting like children that never mentally matured.
Gosh, the messes this community gets into. The CC (and considering how much overlap there is constantly, I consider it one community, not many) has always seemed to be a manufactory for drama, and has seemed to really ramp up production in the past few years.
I've often found myself hoping that I could find a handful of non-malicious, non-hypocritical, non-"jump to conclusions", non-"holier-than-thou", willing to fix their mistakes... commentators and just sit in those small circles and enjoy myself, but at this point it seems like almost everyone fails to check at least one(averaging three) of those boxes. Almost like such attitudes are a pre-req for commentators to work hard enough to succeed.
I really hope all of these issues between parties can resolve eventually, and stay resolved, because it constantly feels like a school debate club where the supervisor is going "Okay, I know you are 'friends' or at least friendly with some of each other, but this week, you three are going to try to ruin the lives of you three, and if someone doesn't end up threatening legal proceedings, sharing childhood issues or starting a school-wide brawl by the end of this, you are all getting suspended."
Also, wow, the moment you mentioned court, I had a foreboding feeling that I knew where this is going. The additional detail you mentioned after... Yeah 0_0 I see the pattern continued out of sight.
Now that I watched this vid, I realised that BoxOvFox's and Holy Majesty's Discord server are gone from my server list lol
holy smokes, I thought you either forgot about it or had second thoughts, no idea things were this bad behind the scenes
I'm sorry to hear your video about your past is taking a lot longer than expected all because of this BS. After hearing about what TheNamesJunkie did, I'm disappointed in him.
With friends like these who needs enemies