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I lived in Sarasota/Bradenton or seven years and absolutely loved it. The heat and humidity didn't bother me actually even had true Floridians ask me how I tolerated the heat so easily but am lucky I guess in some ways because I had to leave the State because of work but now I am older and very sick actually am terminally ill the way I see it God got me out before my illness took over because I can't take the heat anymore especially the humidity interferes with what lung function I do have left. I love this channel you are just awesome I have learned so much yet thought I already knew lots. I sure do appreciate your hard work and have sent several people to your channel. I hope and pray for your continued success!!
If you only wanted to buy one welder but have both 6 & 12v batteries could you wire 2 6v batteries in series could u treat it then no different then a 12v?
I recieved my welder (the red one) a couple days ago. I already saved my car battery. Knowing that this welder is only for regular car lead acids I decided to experiment and tried it on my dead rv 12v deep cycle batteries that have been sitting for 3 years in the elements. Well what do you know, It worked on them too! Sweet.
Awesome Steve! Thank you so much for watching and sharing your fantastic results, we really appreciate it, have a great week my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Steve for liberty I just came across this channel and subscribed. What is the make and model of these two welders? I cant find them in the videos. Thanks.
I just did this today to a 6-year-old battery that was on its way out and Stranded my niece twice. The battery was maintaining 12.3 volts but now it's rocking over 12.7 volts after shock therapy and a load test!!! Thank you sweet project cars
Our pleasure tom! Glad we could help. Thank you for watching and sharing your results, we appreciate it, hope you have a great week. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Wow! This freaking works!!! Spent all weekend doing this to 6 batteries on my golf cart and it's unreal how much the batteries came to life. It's like I have a brand new golf cart!
Glad to hear, DropD! Thank you so much for watching and sharing your fantastic results, we really appreciate it, have a great week my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
I would say, definitely have some gloves that are leather and some safety glasses just in case, might as well be in a well ventilated area to bare minimum have a mask on
Julio is a keeper. Mike, this welder will pay for itself after recuperating one battery! I have several flooded 12 volt batteries lying around. Thank you, my friend, for helping us save money! You are truly appreciated!
Wow, we really thank you for that comment, it makes all we do worth it when we read comments like yours my friend. And we think we will keep Hoolio around for a while, he's a good guy! Have a great day! mad Mike the hammer SPC
@@SweetProjectCars I ordered the welder you indicated, will the 160amp welder work on a standard 12volt? The 200 amp welder was unavailable at the time I ordered, the only welder I was able to purchase on your list was the red 160 amp.
@@joellipperini Did the 160amp work for Car Batteries too? or do you need the 200amp? I have both motorcycle and car batteries....wondering if I need 2 welders, or if one of them will work for both?
I bought the DEKOPRO 160Amp, batteries in the 36volt golf cart charged to about 90% but the batteries in my 48volt cart charged 100%. Very happy person here. Can't thank you enough, Gary O
@@faisalfaixal2376 if you can control the voltage, and keep it under 16 volts, 13-14 v being ideal, and you can use anywhere from 30-200 amps if needed to "wake it up".
It works. Got a golf cart with battery’s that were 5 years old and weren’t charged for 2 years . Took many hours to do 6 batteries but saved 4 out of six.
Awesome Austin!! That is a big savings for sure!! Thank you so much for watching and sharing your results, we truly appreciate it, have a great week my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
I spent a weekend reviving 6 batteries after one took my wife to work, but was completely dead and would not bring her home again. I have a 200 Amp Tig Welder I used and it starts at 9 amps. The lowest setting worked for a few of them and only one did I have to turn up over 30 amps. I am pleasantly surprised this worked. Thanks for sharing. I was dreading having to replace the batteries for my diesel pickup.
Glad we could help my friend! Thank you for watching and for sharing your great results, we really appreciate it, hope you have a fantastic week. mad Mike the hammer SPC
The difference between the red and the yellow welder is duty cycle. The voltages and amperages are almost identical but the red one has a larger duty cycle. That means it can run longer at the higher amperage (say 100 amps). So if you really need to wake up a big boy battery (I found this out on an 8d…1400 cold cranking amps) with the yellow one you might time out the duty cycle before getting the full 5 minutes. Hope that helps, I see a lot of questions about it in the comments.
So would you want the larger one for a 12V Deep Cycle Group 31 100AH battery? ...or is the lower duty cycle one still fine because even though the reserve capacity is higher the cranking amps available is lower?
Please note that its smart to insure that any ignition source is far away as the fumes are explosive. Great vid. Never knew you could do this though I suspected it might be possible. As a mechanic for 40 years I could have done a lot of good had I known this back when I started. Thankyou !
@@SweetProjectCars hi this is a great video! Just wondering on the welder to you have the negative coming from the positive plug coming from the welder or negative coming from the negative plug since they are reversible?
Well all I can say is thank you for a great hack. I got the "red" 200 amp welder last week and this past weekend I had an old battery sitting in the shop since 2019,,,it had a 2016 battery date. Went through the steps here on the video and when completed I put it on a trickle charger overnight. Came back the next afternoon and did a battery load test ( 3x to make sure I was actually getting a good reading )and it passed , it was Rock solid good. Now to go through the rest of my scrap batteries to see which ones will wake up.....but that one battery that has been revived just covered the cost of this welder. Thanks again for this great hack.
Awesome!! Glad we could help. Thank you for watching and sharing your results, we really appreciate it, have a great day my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
looking at the comments I think i have something that may help. The welder matters. There is a comment below stating they charged and now the battery is backwards with pos and neg reversed. I think this is because they used a welder capable of mig or tig welding aluminum, whether on a wire feed gun attachment, or just through the actual welder. On these welders, in order to do aluminum, the leads are reversed so you would get their issue. so in the end, I think regardless of welder, you must make sure that your positive lead (stick attachment lead), is plugged into the welder on the positive terminal, and the negative or ground be connected to the welder with the negative connection. To do aluminum with a welder that is capable, one wound put positive on negative and the ground would then go to positive. Make sense? So make sure guys n gals... that both at the battery and at the machine the positive is connected to the welding stick lead and the negative is connected to ground or negative....Hope that helped?
Our videos are very product/tool specific, we share only what we have tested an know works every time. Thank you for watching and sharing Daddski 1, we appreciate your input. Have a fantastic day my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Thanks for the great Info. And thanks to Julio for finding an even less expensive way to save your batteries at about half the cost of the other heavy duty charger. And I love that you can also use it for some welding.
Our pleasure rotfan77!! That is exactly why we did this update for viewers so they can do this more economical process and have a welder to use as well, it's a "win - win" :) Thank you so much for watching and sharing, hope you have a fantastic weekend my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
This worked well for me with Trojan 8V golf cart batteries, with the following modification, I had to hook 2 batteries together in series to get any amperage flow. With the Titanium Stick 225, the thermal light came on immediately (also indicates a grounding issue). Tried a different welder and it didn't work either. Switched to the 2 - 8v batteries in series and it clicked over and started working. Thank you!
I did the baking soda method and revived 2 out of 5 of the old batteries I had. I called it a success. Using the high powered welder to charge the battery instead of the normal trickle charger is genius. Thus taking away the need to use the baking soda to activate it.
Baking soda neutralizes sulfuric acid. In other words, it would take the electro out of electrolyte. Haha I don't see how baking soda could activate a lead acid battery. I have used water and baking soda to clean out an old battery.Kept flushing it until it no longer bubbled. Then thoroughly flushed out the battery with clean water. Should use distilled the last few times before refilling it. Charged it it for 24 hours on 2 amp and it worked for, well I don't know. I moved away 2 1/2 years later.
Purchased the YESWELDER that you have in the link for deep cycles. Turning it on the first time it worked fined and got good bubbling for 5 minutes turned it off and waited 10 minutes but that was it, cannot get any bubbling to happen after that no matter what I do with the welder, checked the connections and they are fine. Used a multimeter to see if any voltage was going into the battery when turning on the welder and it would jump up to 18 volts and then drop down to the batteries 12 volt.
Try it on another battery to test and make sure the welder is working correctly. That's what we do. Thank you for watching and asking. mad Mike the hammer SPC
@Sweet Project Cars Just did another six deep cycle 6v that where dead (.5v) and they are now bubbling like a soda :) on the original cart charger. You truly have something here that not a lot of people know and i learned first hand. i got both of the welders and like you said on the video i used the red on my car battery that used to be 1.4 v and now is at 12.6v with plenty of cranking power and the smaller welder on a utility cart that has 6 6v deep cycle 225 ah batteries that where not charging when i would plug the charger. i noticed after running the shock treatment for only 2 min at 22 on the small welder the charger was able to recognize them and charge them again. After the shock treatment i connected everything back in the Cart and they registered and started charging then a couple min later the charger was showing that they where fully charged, i took it out for a spin and then a minute in and it died on me so i plugged it in for charge again and ones it was showing fully charged i took it out again and this time it run for about 15 min, now i plugged it again and its been charging for about 11 hours and the batteries are bubbling like a soda however its taking a way longer charge and the charger is still showing 2/6 charged which means the batteries just need to cycle. Again I'm very grateful for sharing your findings with all of us and id like to thank you again. By the way i use jumper cables to connect them and also learned a valuable lesson not to crank the power too high or it might fry your battery :) (i actually did fry a car battery from a jeep by cranking it to 200 and battery got really hot and few cells stopped working )
You got it! We know this process works just try it yourself, you will love the results SnowCold. Thanks for watching, have a great week. mad Mike the hammer SPC
I have been using 12v unit adj to recover units for years. I have been reviving batteries forever with non computer chargers. Until this moment, I did not put them together. I am going to try. 2 to 200 amps, with full amp control. With the hf welder, extraction. I dont rich expensive gear. (I don't use cheap Chinese stuff for gold exstraction.) After bringing them up some. I have found a pulse 4 amp charger that seems to restore them to 80 to 90 per capacity. This a fantastic repair. thank mike
I would suggest a simple voltage check with a meter before and after the process and a simple battery stress test as well. Those would affirm the process.
Well Tony, do as you wish, but we don't need to affirm anything to anyone because we've been doing this process for years and years and years and we know it works when done as shown and works every time. Thanks for watching. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Which welder would I buy for larger batteries out of heavy equipment and trucks? They are 12V flooded lead acid batteries built the same as standard car batteries, but 2-6 times larger.
Ive been doing this for 6 years i set mine to 20amps with voltmeter on the battery i sit it in till it reaches 14.4v and stop the charging process it can desulfate and charge the batteries bcause inverter arc welder doesnt have filter capacitor at the output and it puts out very high frequency hv pulses
Good info, Bernalyn. Is the high frequency HV pulse what makes it more effective at desulfating than a 200amp boost charger? I just bought a used 2/40/200 amp boost charger (manual / analog type) after seeing Mike's older method. I have 12V car and 6V golf cart batteries to recondition.
What about doing this then draining the batteries to get the sulfur sludge out, and then throw in distilled water for a clean out then put new acid into the batteries? Then even do this with new acid... I know it may not be needed but could that help even further? Even doing all that extra between buying a few more gallons of D.water and 3 gallons of new acid is at most another 100 bucks. I know old school rule was never to drain the acid out but i feel with this process it might help infuse new acid to the batteries. ? Thanks either way great video!
It's not necessary, but if it makes you feel better, have at it! Remember, the acid doesn't evaporate, it's still there just need to add fresh amzn.to/3gb9Ni0 before beginning the process then at the resting times if needed. Thank you for watching, have a fantastic day my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
For anyone that is stressing if their welder is able to do this or not you must have a DC inverter welder do not do this with a regular ac welder. The reason this works is because DC inverter welders send The amount of current to whatever you set it at, it automatically varies the voltage to meet that current demand. Where as a typical battery charger may be rated at 200a jump but what happens is that with all of this calcification it will raise the internal resistance of your battery. Let's say you put it in 200 amp jump mode, but its only outputting 14-16 volts or so by the time you calculate ohms law theoretically even if you're in 200 amp mode that charger will only be delivering only a few amps to your battery until the resistance is lowered by cranking on the starter which will allow the full 200a jump start to do it's job and will only then be able to deliver the 200amps but it goes directly to the starter. Now with the weld welder on the other hand, he doesn't give a crap about your batteries internal resistance. Because if your battery has a high internal resistance guess what? it's going to raise the voltage so that it can send the full amount of current that you set it to this is how it works. On mine I was watching as I was restoring my battery and in the beginning the voltage was as high as 66 volts and I was worried but this is how it works to break that crap up because in the beginning your battery has a very high resistance whereas a normal 200 amp battery charger starter wouldn't be able to save your battery this will
Hoolio is a keeper when he shows up or isn't on vacation LOL. Thanks Chris. No need for a before and after, we know it works, try it and you will see it does too. Have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
For Australia where we use 220V. Would it make a difference for the welders I need to use? For example the DEKOPRO 110/220V MMA Welder,160A it would be 60 duty cycles on 220v Specification: Input Voltage: Ac110/220V Current Range:10-160(A) Rated Duty Cycle(%): 40/60
One more question... We own a Tiara Yacht... with dead batteries 😊 6x a 12V 105Ah ... I removed the sticker... But they are completely sealed on top... ?? I can see the filling holes but there is no way to get in... any tips??
Hello my friend, can you please send pictures to us at sweetprojectcars@gmail.com We will see if we can get you pointed in the right direction. Thank you for watching and asking, we really appreciate it, have a great day DeFi! mad Mike the hammer SPC
Very good but some welding machines out put is a c current and some are d c current out put you don't want to put ac current inside of a battery that DC current inside
You are correct George! DC output, that's why we listed the welders that we use specifically for this process in the .....More of the videos description. Thank you for watching, have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Hooked Grandpa's old lead-acid golf cart batteries to my Miller Square wave 350 it worked wonderful been riding this golf cart around for weeks I did a 10-mile Loop the other day
Sweeeeet, Thomas! Thank you for watching and sharing your awesome results, we really appreciate it, have a fantastic day my friend and enjoy that golf cart. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Haha i have been mentioning these welders in different youtube channels a lot of late . They are the most robust power supply on the market and cheap as chips . A few channels are going to start re engineering them for different projects including tesla coils and and hho generator. Good work in spreading the word !
This process is called "Equalizing" the battery and is standard maintenance process used on led-acid batteries. Most of the time they will put a constant voltage Equalizing charge on it of 15v-16.5v for about an hour depending on the temperatures. At lower temps you can do it at higher voltages. What you're doing is basically the same thing but for a much shorter period of time and using higher voltages. Its actually a really great idea in my opinion because sometimes even at 16.5 volts you still can't push the current through the sulfated layer on the plates. They recommend to do this once every 1-3 months to keep them fresh on batteries that aren't used very often. If it's an AGM battery you need to be more careful to not overheat it. Thanks for the great video.
Yep,did this when I was in charge of maintaining forklift batteries. Had industrial chargers that could equalize,wanted to say they did around 205 amps for equalizing,was years ago.
Is it amps or voltage on that welder's lcd-display? How much voltage does the welder put in that battery? If I understand your comment correctly, 16.5 Volt 8s a maximum. But the welder does 200 Volt, does'nt it?
I have a 58 month old Exide 60ah Lead acid battery used in VW Polo TDI 1.2, properly maintained with 1st top up with distilled water at 36th month and 2nd top up at 58th month but still it died, Now at what power should I use the welder ? Yesterday my battery died, when I tested on multimeter on car engine turned off the voltage showed 12.6volts and on alternator charging it was 14.4volts And on cranking the starter the voltage dropped down to 8volts which jus could not start the engine , but sometimes it starts easily , sometimes it doesn't . Kindly advise 🙏
Start the welder on lowest setting, then gradually turn it up until you have a consistent boil on the cells, then make sure you use this amzn.to/3kmCThX after doing the process. Thanks for watching and sharing, have a great day my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
When you are adjusting the dial on the welder, are you adjusting the welding amps or the voltage. So is the 38 that the welder is cranked up to indicating 38 volts into 8 or 12 volt battery for 5 minutes on and then 10 minutes cool down. I h ave been using an additional 12 volt car charger along with my standard 48 volt charger that comes with my golf cart, 6 batteries.
Turn both dials to zero, then start turning the amps dial until you get a consistent boil on all cells, watch this update for more info ua-cam.com/video/TxrR1aepKlM/v-deo.html watch and re-watch all of the videos so you can get this down and first and foremost, make sure you are using the tools we use, they are very explicit Gary. Thank you for watching, have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Any time you work on your vehicle there are obvious safety precautions, you don't want to hover over the cells and look in them while you are doing the process. Thanks for watching, have a great day. mad Mike
You are understanding correctly Pete! Watch our newest video on this process ua-cam.com/video/KzOQH1twpI8/v-deo.html Thanks for watching, have a great day my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
At the start of this video you state that these are the only welders that you found that work. I would like to know what they are. Specifically the one to charge 6 volts.
Welder for Deep Cycle ONLY 6 Volt & 12V Batteries amzn.to/3yW4ihK or amzn.to/30k7YNg Use This for all Standard 12-volt Batteries amzn.to/2K1UsWQ ***If the above welder is unavailable, either one of these will work **amzn.to/3mqhebK** or **amzn.to/3sH4COq** *** and just a reminder, all of the products/tools we use in our videos can always be found in the SHOW MORE of the videos description, if you can't find it let us know and we will help you. Thanks for watching. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Ordered my inverter welder today. Have bought pulse Tex maintainer which has been in place a couple years now. Not seen any real world improvement with it. Bought two more desulfator chargers with near endless hours ran on deep cycle batteries with very little improvement. This method looks promising but still up in the air about it. At I will have small stick welder that can be used portablely with genny. I’ll try this a couple times and if no improvement I will change out the electrolyte after boiling a couple times in distilled water. Also get specific gravity readings through out servicing. Thx for video
Hi Sweet Project Cars, just come here from the link you sent me from the other video, thank you for that. Trying my stick welder. The lead that would be attached to the body of the work, has a red rubber cover on the clip. I did put this on to the positive terminal. I noticed that your machine has a black handle on that part and you put it on the negative terminal. This would have been my intuitive way also. It is a very old battery and still have three other better one's to try. Anyway, it started bubbling, 2 at first, then up to 5. The battery got fairly hot. It is in a very breezy part of the carport. When it cools down, I might try the other polarity, and stand well clear, which I do anyway. It went from 4.3 v to 3.8 v. This is fun but I do take precautions seriously. Cheers.
Harry, this video shows specific welders that we use and only recommend, please follow the video to a T, there is no other alternative, use the exact same tools, products and method, we've spent years perfecting this process. It works flawlessly every single time using either of these welders for standard battery amzn.to/2K1UsWQ or deep cycle amzn.to/3yW4ihK Thanks for watching, have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
We leave that to our viewers, we aren't out to prove anything, we share this because we know it works. Thanks for watching, we appreciate it, have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
I know next to nothing about welding. Bought a "Stark AC welder" a few years ago did not use it at all. Pulled it out and tried this method with 70amps. Thought I did something wrong. I heard a pop and the clamp that I used (may be it was too thin) burned off. But I tested the battery and WOWW!!! its up to 800 plus cranking amps! Thats from a max of 250 CAs after several attempts to charge it after using your previous "bubbling method". Mad Mike big props...this freaking works!
Good deal, glad it worked, surprised you got it to work with AC voltage, are you sure it wasn't on DC voltage? Thanks so much glad we could help. mad Mike the hammer SPC
just did a small 12 v..had 1.5 showing.. started charging, nearly nothing, but a little..cranked all the way up on welder, not much, but increasing..got better, but battery charger would't charge.. kept working with it and suddenly steam started shooting out of vents.. turned down..soon couldn't put welder on battery.. then charger would tAKE over. to my amazement, it worked. gratis
Please follow the video to a T, there is no other alternative, use the exact same tools, products and method, we've spent years perfecting this process. Thanks for watching and asking Don, have a great week. mad Mike the hammer SPC
With this method, if you can't get all the cells to boil then the battery is un-repairable. Thank you for watching and asking. Have a great day Brian. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Hello from Argentina!! I love that tip. Will try it with a dead batery that i have and ley You know if it's work and came back from the death. Keep the good work and thanks for all your help to the diyers and afficionates!!
Hey Mad Mike, Thanks for the great video! UA-cam is awesome for sharing knowledge for all us DIYers. My wife says I need to take a break from my addiction to it. But seriously, I have a half dozen golf cart batteries and slew of other batteries I never returned for cores over the years and if I can save them I may be able to treat her to a date night or two. Happy wife, happy life! So my question is, what makes one welder suitable for the deep cycle batteries and not standard batteries and vice versa? Do they operate differently or is it amperage or adjust ability? Thanks!
Well Scott, we like to take the guess work out for our viewers, we've tried and tested many, many different welders over the years on the different style batteries and our recommendations are what we know without a doubt work, and work every time and are safe for both you and your batteries. Thank you for watching and sharing, we truly appreciate our great subscribers like you, hope you have a fantastic day my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
I have a battery that is over 10 years old sitting in the carport and I have it on the cement floor and I have heard that the cement floor destroys the battery completely so my question is can this battery still be revived or have you ever done a battery that sat on the cement floor for years thank You sir great information .Also should the water be replaced with newer distilled water and I know that it could be still acidic and what is the best way to discard this old water
Give it a shot, sounds like you've got nothing to lose my friend. There's no need to replace the water, just top the cells off to within an inch of the top with this amzn.to/3gb9Ni0 then as necessary during the resting times. Hope this helps, thank you for watching and asking, have a great week and all the best on your project. mad Mike the hammer SPC
@@SweetProjectCars well you can’t be mad mike you sound like a very nice person and you got back to my question thank You very but I will certainly call you Mr Hammer it still sounds tough now we just need to get both of our Countries Back in order WWG1WGA 🇨🇦🇺🇸
Thank you very much.I can confirm that this method works.I will try to give info how i did it so maybe someone will find it helpfull.My battery is 75Ah 12V one.It worked perfectly for 3 years without any maintenance at all.First i added 100ml of water to have it enough and over all cells for about half of inch.One cell in my battery was bad.I saw no bubling on charging using my welder on 30A.So i cranked it up to 80A.I keep it running for short time till battery temperature started rising up to 35deg (body temp).Then i made a pause till battery colled down completely.Then i did same thing again.This about temperature is IMPORTANT ..... it must be done as i described.I repeated this for about 15 times.Then i turned it back in to my car.It started at half of key turn.I am testing it today and tomorow i will know.....after cold night.....is this permanent solution or i have to repeat all for more times than i did it now.Battery was not capable to start the car before i tried this.Thank you again and Happy New Year!
@@SweetProjectCars It didnt restore full capacity....but was in better condition next day.....so i decided to repeat all over again till i see bubling in all cells to be the same.And it happened after many repeats (to avoid over heating - lowest current setting on my welder is 30A).Now it holds as new.
I've been watching your videos since 2016. I have always been Absolutely Amazed at your great knowledge and experience. Thank you Very Much Sir. Simply The Best!
After doing this process use this charger to slowly full charge the battery amzn.to/3kmCThX Thank you for watching, have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
I'd love if you measured the current with a hall effect Meter and voltage applied .. it. Would be far more effective for viewers to know it's all about these two measurements no matter what the source is
The newer model Amico ARC200DC has 2 knobs. The one on the left says "ARC FORCE". The one on the right says "115/230 V". Do you leave the one on the right on low (115) and the one on the left on low and adjust as needed?
Leave the knob on the left at 1 then slowly turn up the other knob until you get a consistent boil on all of the cells Scott. Thanks for watching, have a great day. mad Mike
I topped my off with distilled water but it got boiling good at put some fluid on the floor of my garage. I am assuming that it took some acid with the water when it boiled over. Do I need to add acid now? How do I know how much acid to add if any? Also once I have all the cells boiling good after 5 cycles do I still need to trickle charge it?
It's not necessary to add acid Dennis, but if it would make you feel better, have at it. You need this amzn.to/3kmCThX to finish the complete process, please follow the video instruction as shown using all of the products/tools we use in order to get the same results. Thanks for the view, have a great week. mad Mike the hammer SPC
I ordered the welder last week from Amazon and restored my battery today. I had one hole that was a little stubborn to bubble but after cranking up the power, it was resurrected. Thank you for the video good sir!
The welders in the video has only one nob to turn but the Amico welders have two nobs. which nob on the Amico should i turn for battery to start bubbling and at what number do I leave the other nob turned to? I no nothing about welders, i need your help.
I have to know. Are you like legit off grid were you can't get internet signal from home and you need to go towards the city to get internet connection. Or more like off the grid like solar power and your own batteries?
You can use whatever you want to use Monty, we are just sharing what we have tried, tested and know works also, it's safe for both you and your batteries. Thanks for watching, have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
@@SweetProjectCars can you share what amps to set inverter at for each type of dead sulficated battery work? In theory deep cycles have thick plates need higher volts to reach full charge, then lower volt range to maintain full charge or float; vs. a starter battery which has thinner plates and does not need the higher volt range a deep cycle battery needs to fully charge and takes less time to reach full charge but still needs a lower float stage of using a trickle charger. So not all of those inverter welders are available on the links, however I tried this method on engine starter battery first but at an amp setting below what the video displays trips the circuit. What amps are you using for each type of battery? Are you using 220v outlet? What is load rating of your outlet breaker to get the 120v outlet cord on inverter to work?
Okay, I bought a 200A DC inverter welder yesterday since the original battery in my 2015 TDi gave up the ghost in the cold weather. Rather than spend $200+ on another battery, I figured I'd buy a tool and at least try to revive this thing, plus the two 9 y/o batteries in my Cummins are about done as well. I topped off the level in the TDi battery and zapped it 4 times last night (it cooled off quick in the cold weather). When I was done the battery was at 12.92V. The car fired right up. This AM it also fired right up (20°F). We'll see how long this "fix" last for. I'll zap the truck batteries in the Spring when I need the truck again. BTW, the electrolyte looked completely brown clay colored when done. If this holds out until Spring, I'll flush and put fresh electrolyte in it... it was nasty looking! Reply later if anyone wants a future update on how it worked out longer term.
@@SweetProjectCars Well sadly I woke up to a very weak battery, by the time I went to leave for work today, it wouldn't start the car. Napa is now the proud owner of the TDi battery...
thanks for the tip, mike... i tried on my car 2 years old battery, because it was hesitant to start in the morning, using arc 160 dc welder, and it worked... been 3 days now.. just for info, i measured the charging voltage, it was 15.6 volts, on the lowest amps setting. i used the schedule of 3 minutes on - 5 minutes off, 6 times, because i was cautious of the boiling acid, and the battery was very hot to touch.
STUBBORN CELL - To get my stubborn cell to start bubbling I cranked my welder up to 80 for 5 minutes but it is not quite waking up as it still will not bubble at 20. Can I go higher? Is this high setting hard on the good cells?
You can go up to 90, but what we say is to make sure to let the battery cool down then do the full process again to see if it wakes it, like the next day, it won't harm the good cells. Thank you for watching and asking. Have a great weekend my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Will the cheaper wielder (Deckpro 160 Amp) work with 8V golf cart batteries? Love this video and hoping to make it work with my (6) 8 volt golf cart batteries…that would make my day! Thank you Sweet Project Cars for the time and effort you put into the video and all of your comments. 🙏🏼👍🏼💪🏼
Yes it will Kris! Just cut all timelines in half for that size battery, sorry for the delay in responding my friend, hope you have a fantastic day. mad Mike
Hey I have one cell its the one at the end by positive terminal that isn't really bubbling like the other and the battery only lasted a couple of days. Alternator is good and I cranny the welder up all the way and it still won't bubble hardly, I've done all my batteries this way and they all worked but I can't get this one for some reason, what can I do?please help asap, thank you
Sounds like your battery is toast jay. You can do the complete process up to 5 full times, but if it doesn't work after that, it's toast. Thanks for watching and asking, have a great week my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Oh man, I just bought a new interstate battery from Costco and gave them my old one that had a 42 Month warranty instead of a 36 Month on the new one. Dang! But i was impressed that I got 48 Months on the 42 Month battery before it got weak and sulfated. I almost feel like going back to Costco and getting the old one back and giving the rejuvenation treatment a try.
Great video, a welder as well as a battery charger, "two birds with one stone" comes to mind, keep up the good work, Paul from the other side of the pond.
Glad you liked it Paul! Thanks for watching and sharing, we appreciate it and welcome from across the pond :) Hope you have a fantastic weekend my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Hi Mike. I tried this process and yes it did work, but only for a DAY. Also, I cycled my battery EIGHT times with my welder and it boiled like crazy. The battery would not stay charged past 2 days! lol. My conclusion is I need to put in some new electrolyte and then it should hold a charge. HEADS UP. Any stick welder will work as long as the duty cycle can handle the 200 amps for 5 minutes. In addition to, I let it cool for 30 mins as the Texas heat is tough.
We only recommend the welders shown in the ...more of the video description, we've done all of the trying/testing for you and we know that it works and is safe for both you and your batteries my friend. Thanks for watching and asking, have a great week. mad Mike & team
Got the latest grey Amico welder (which is a nice little welder for sure) that was recommended took an old ancient Legend battery out of my friends barn which was totally dead and sitting on the bare ground for a long time in a frigid climate, hooked it up and turned the knob till it started boiling (about 90 amps or so) I followed the procedure to a "T" and after cooling I charged with a NAPA 2 amp trickle charge for 24 hours it did bring the battery up to the spot right between "replace" and "good" on the NAPA charge gauge and I tried it quick on my 16 HP JD mower which it easily started again and again with no trouble.....I was wondering if Julio ever recommends doing the procedure twice or if there is any detriment to doing it twice if one winds up with a marginal result. Oh BTW a couple things I noticed was if you try a battery and it won't boil regardless of how hard you hit it including (200 amps) its toast take it to the junk yard as the physical electrical pathway internally has been compromised somehow also I had trouble with the battery boiling over as it became warmer about (125 degrees) this was easily corrected with my wife's turkey baster by extracting a little bit (she'll never miss it) LOL .......Julio what do you think? 2nd time around with the procedure? also I ordered the battery charger recommended but still waiting for it . I will follow up with how this works
I must admit that I have used this method before and although it does not restore the battery to it's former cycling performance, it's definitely worth pursuing if you get through a lot of 12v batteries. Over the years I have refined this method of using a large capacitor bank in parallel with a high current charger, to dump multi-hundred amp pulses into the battery to break off the cell sulphation in much the same way, without the risk of thermal run-away.
We've had batteries that have lasted years and years, you may have to do the process every couple years, but still a huge savings in the long run. Thanks for sharing. Have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Well Mike, that's great will try that. on another note I had great success with another two batteries, one which I put in my JD gator and used for last two days starts first crack.. Happy new year from Ireland. D..
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Hi - I tried this on my battery - but 1 cell just didn't bubble the same as the others, even after the 5th round. Does this mean the battery is toast? Game over? Thanks
You can do the complete 5 step process up to 5 times, if it doesn't wake up after that, your battery is toast my friend. Thank you for watching, hope you have a great week. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Mike, I’ve got (4) scissor lift 6v batteries (cr-205). I’ve topped the cells off and I am now on my 8th cycle of bubbling with your instructions with the welder (MMA 160A). After the batteries have sat for a 24 hour period, they only read 5.9-6v instead of the 6.3ish they should be reading. I tried using a 6v noco genius trickle charger but it goes red (charging) for about 36 hrs then shuts off like it didn’t work. Do you have any suggestions? Or are these batteries just toast? Thanks in advance.
Try one of the batteries in your lift, if you've done 8 cycles, try one of them, if it doesn't work for you the batteries just may be toast, it doesn't happen very often this works more times than not. Give one a whirl my friend. Thank you for watching and asking, have a great week Jacob. mad Mike
@@SweetProjectCars okay, I tried and they are not holding charge. But there’s a bunch of powder in the battery tray of the lift. I assume dehydrated battery acid? Is it possible when I added distilled water I diluted the cells from a lack of acid and I now need to empty them and buy some more acid?
UPDATE: I solved the issue. I changed the acid out and batteries that read 5.9 now read 6.35 volts! $70 for 5 gallons of acid at a battery supply store. Side note: one of the batteries somehow reversed polarity after changing the acid out. So I am now working to deeply discharge it and charge it back to reverse the polarity back to positive positive, negative negative. Thanks for your videos!
Hi Sweet Project Cars.... My name is Greg and I'm 75 years old. Enjoyed your video on deep cell batteries I have a golf cart with batteries from Sept. 2012 and have not been able to afford new batteries so when I watch all three of your videos I decided to purchase the yellow welder. But no longer sold so I went with the YESWELDER ARC Welder 165Amp Digital Inverter IGBT Stick MMA Welder,110/220V Dual Voltage Hot Start ARC Force Portable Welding Machine which you recommended. I'm confused as to what power to set. My cart only runs for about 10min then rapidly starts slowing down. Could you do a video on the grey welder. thank you .....
Hello Greg, you want to start out on the lowest setting and gradually turn it up until you get a rapid boil, then follow the video process. I hope this helps, and remember make sure you recap and unplug the welder before disconnecting the cables. Thanks for watching and asking. mad Mike the hammer SPC
If this works as you say then lead acid becomes the best value for off grid power again rather than lithium.... So the batteries you zapped still holding good charge 6 months later?
What can I do if a have a shortened out cell. I mean with this process you create lead ,,mud" at the bottom of the cell and at some point it will be high enough to touch the cells and short them out. Is there anything I can do then?
My friend, if you can get the life of a battery doubled or tripled and that happens to your battery and you have to replace it, just be happy that you got to use the battery 2 or 3 times longer all for free. Thanks for watching, have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
@@SweetProjectCars well the battery is from my Ford Focus that was 5 years old at that moment and so was the battery. I was just dissappointed in all my other beater cars the batteries are at least a decade old
Many of us have a battery charger (or it is fairly cheap to buy) but few of us have stick welders (and they a much more to buy) so why not just stick with the battery charger method?
Because this is a way better option for this process greg, it's easier and is more economical. Thanks for watching and asking, have a great week. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Hey, it's me giving you an update about my battery charging attempt that I wrote about below. I checked my battery before the 5th round of charge and it showed 12.73 Volts. I charged it for the 5th time and tested the voltage again which was the same 12.73 volts. Installed it in my BMW 740IL which takes a lot of power to crank and it started right up. A happy ending. I just hope for it to hold its charges for a long time. Thank you Sweet Project Cars.
Some say if it boils when charging,that cell is dead. Here, i hear the exact opposite. Does this realt work? Coz i have 3 dead batteries in my parking space
I live off-grid in the PNW. I have a micro hydro-electric power plant that I use to charge six 6-volt deep cycle batteries (Trojan T105). The batteries typically last about 5 years. They are expensive to replace. I am going to try this method to bring the old sets back to life. I need a welder anyway, so... I'll let you know how it goes.
It's a win win Cregg, you get a welder to use for repairs and rejuvenating your batteries! Thanks for watching and sharing, have a great day and all the best on your project my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Lol I did this several years ago. Totally worked for me. I literally held my tungsten on one side and put my ground clamp on the other. I watched my voltage and did bursts of power rolling on and off in 5 second intervals. Did it for about 5 min
Let me make sure I got this straight on RV Derp Cycle Batteries start with the lowest setting on the charger first and run the first cycle with the hour rest then move the charger up to the next setting and repeat it once till you are up to the 200 amp setting ? Is that correct ? Thanks for the great videos !
Michael, we start out on the lowest setting then gradually turn it up until we get a rapid boil on all of the cells, then follow the process shown in the video and remember make sure you recap and unplug the welder before disconnecting the cables. Hope this helps, thanks for watching and asking, have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
@@SweetProjectCars Thank you for the swift reply I will be using the recommended charger and I will follow the directions as noted . Thanks again for the great videos !
If you have all cells bubbling fast from the start and you complete your whole process one time is there any use to do the whole process again and if so what keeps improving or will it start to do damage.
You do it until you are satisfied with the battery result, sometimes it will wake it up after one time doing the process, some take 2 or 3 times. Thanks Calvin. Have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
I’m doing a 6V deep cycle battery right now and I’m getting zero to very light boiling. Does that mean it won’t work on this particular battery? FYI, I did another 6V deep cycle yesterday and brought that one back to life.
Hello Paul, you can do the entire 5 step process up to 5 times, if it doesn't wake up your battery after that, the battery is toast my friend. Thanks for watching and sharing, have a great week and all the best on your project. mad Mike the hammer SPC
I did this with a deep cycle 12 V boat battery today using the recommended Deko welding machine and it restored it back to new condition. Hope it lasts awhile.
Glad to hear it dawgduo! Great work my friend! Thank you for watching and sharing your results, we really appreciate it, hope you have a fantastic week. mad Mike the hammer SPC
after the final boiling process, have you ever dumped out the old acid? seems like you should be getting rid of that old dirty acid and adding new acid . your thoughts??
Not necessary. We've found that when you analyze until paralyzed you don't accomplish many things. Our channel is based on simplicity that works. Great question though, thanks for asking. Happy New Year. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Did this with the battery out of my wife's car, opened it up an there was barely visible water. Kept adding water until it was about a half inch from the opening turned the welder on (red one you have) and nothing. Turned it up a bit and the water started overflowing. Any idea why? After the water leveled out it was bubbling a bet. After five rounds all but one bubble well the odd one out bubbled but dot as well. Will check the voltage I a few days to make sure it's holding. Thank you.
Depending on the battery, before starting the charging process you want to be about a quarter of an inch above the plates inside, and turn the charger up slowly, turn it up too much and it will overflow especially if there is too much fluid in it. Thanks for watching Scott! Have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
This amzn.to/2K1UsWQ is the new recommended one. Thanks for asking, and remember all of the tools/products used in our videos can always be found in the SHOW MORE of the videos description, let us know if you need help finding it. Thanks for watching and asking. Have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
From what I've seen on UA-cam and tried myself minimum amps required to start bubbling is 50amps. However this amount will not be sufficient enough to desulfate the plates inside a lead acid battery. Also some batteries require a discharge before being put back to use. So go through this process and fully charge the battery then put a load to measure voltage drop and check where it settles (12.6V - load = resting voltage) light or actual load tester (tool) for a few seconds then remove the load and see if the voltage returns to 12+ V. It won't be the same as before the test but it is a good indicator that the battery is in functional state. Then proceed to discharge it approximately to around 10.5V then recharge it until full 12.6+V and should be good as new. Also like you replied some batteries are not capable of being reconditioned due to internal damage.
Is there a cheaper welder that will do this? My grandpa passed and left a ton of golf cart batties and 2 golf carts in need of some batties, would be amazing to wake up the batties and see if they live again! Bringing my grandpas ranch back to life!
The welders we share are the one's we recommend, you will pay for that welder over and over again with the savings you have in golf cart batteries! Please follow the video to a T, there is no other alternative, use the exact same tools, products and method, as shown here 3c5.com/4u6dj We've spent years perfecting this process. Thanks for watching and asking, have a great week. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Maybe this question has been asked before...but... Why would one welder work for this process but another wont? Seems straightforward with an inverter DC stick welder with the proper amperage.
Well, it's no different than going to buy two porterhouse steaks, each from different butchers, they look almost exactly the same but taste completely different. We have checked and tested almost every welding unit out there and the one's that we suggest can be safely used. Of course, you can use anything you want but we have seen what happens to batteries when a unit is used that is different than what we recommend. Thank you for watching Bill. mad Mike the hammer SPC
We will await your video showing the before and after. We aren't here to prove anything to anyone, we know it works, as a channel with 700 videos, we aren't out to harm or play head games with anyone. Give it a shot! Thanks. mad Mike the hammer SPC
We've had success with batteries that have been sitting Patrick! Give it a shot, you have nothing to lose my friend. Follow the video to a T and use the exact same tools/products we use. Thanks for watching, have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Please follow the video to a T, there is no other alternative, use the exact same tools, products and method, we've spent years perfecting this process. Thanks for watching and asking, have a great week. mad Mike the hammer SPC
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Does this work for 8volt golf cart battery or do you recommend different welder
If you only wanted to buy one welder but have both 6 & 12v batteries could you wire 2 6v batteries in series could u treat it then no different then a 12v?
Can I charge 2 Volt deep cycle alkaline batteries using a similar procedure?
I recieved my welder (the red one) a couple days ago. I already saved my car battery. Knowing that this welder is only for regular car lead acids I decided to experiment and tried it on my dead rv 12v deep cycle batteries that have been sitting for 3 years in the elements. Well what do you know, It worked on them too! Sweet.
Awesome Steve! Thank you so much for watching and sharing your fantastic results, we really appreciate it, have a great week my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
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I just came across this channel and subscribed. What is the make and model of these two welders? I cant find them in the videos. Thanks.
@@mrlawski1014 in the video description, press the 'read more' and you should get the rest of the welder's description.
@@toddthurston8317 Thanks, I'm not always this helpless. Appreciate your help.
What is the output voltage of your welding inverter machine ???
I just did this today to a 6-year-old battery that was on its way out and Stranded my niece twice. The battery was maintaining 12.3 volts but now it's rocking over 12.7 volts after shock therapy and a load test!!! Thank you sweet project cars
Our pleasure tom! Glad we could help. Thank you for watching and sharing your results, we appreciate it, hope you have a great week. mad Mike the hammer SPC
What brand welder for 6 volt
"rocking over 12.7 volts"
you almost want to pat it "who's a good boy!"
Wow! This freaking works!!! Spent all weekend doing this to 6 batteries on my golf cart and it's unreal how much the batteries came to life. It's like I have a brand new golf cart!
Glad to hear, DropD! Thank you so much for watching and sharing your fantastic results, we really appreciate it, have a great week my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
What did you use to fully charge the 6 v battery after processing with the welder?
I would say, definitely have some gloves that are leather and some safety glasses just in case, might as well be in a well ventilated area to bare minimum have a mask on
How are those batteries holding up now?
Julio is a keeper. Mike, this welder will pay for itself after recuperating one battery! I have several flooded 12 volt batteries lying around. Thank you, my friend, for helping us save money! You are truly appreciated!
Wow, we really thank you for that comment, it makes all we do worth it when we read comments like yours my friend. And we think we will keep Hoolio around for a while, he's a good guy! Have a great day! mad Mike the hammer SPC
Did you buy the welder and try it? Results?
@@SweetProjectCars I ordered the welder you indicated, will the 160amp welder work on a standard 12volt? The 200 amp welder was unavailable at the time I ordered, the only welder I was able to purchase on your list was the red 160 amp.
When he cuts to the Julio audio clips I just about laughed a lung out through my nose !!!!
@@joellipperini Did the 160amp work for Car Batteries too? or do you need the 200amp? I have both motorcycle and car batteries....wondering if I need 2 welders, or if one of them will work for both?
I bought the DEKOPRO 160Amp, batteries in the 36volt golf cart charged to about 90% but the batteries in my 48volt cart charged 100%. Very happy person here. Can't thank you enough, Gary O
Glad to hear Gary!! Thank you so much for watching and sharing your stupendous results, hope you have a great week my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
I am a believer. I have saved 5 batteries already. Yes, it does hold charges.Thank you!
Wonderful! Thanks for watching and sharing your great results Tim! Have a fantastic day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Tim - have you tried this with smaller batteries?
can i use any dc welder
Hey can I try this with something else elif you don't have a welder? I mean I have a big Miller but my 220 extension cord is too short
@@faisalfaixal2376 if you can control the voltage, and keep it under 16 volts, 13-14 v being ideal, and you can use anywhere from 30-200 amps if needed to "wake it up".
It works. Got a golf cart with battery’s that were 5 years old and weren’t charged for 2 years . Took many hours to do 6 batteries but saved 4 out of six.
Awesome Austin!! That is a big savings for sure!! Thank you so much for watching and sharing your results, we truly appreciate it, have a great week my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Are they still working?
I spent a weekend reviving 6 batteries after one took my wife to work, but was completely dead and would not bring her home again. I have a 200 Amp Tig Welder I used and it starts at 9 amps. The lowest setting worked for a few of them and only one did I have to turn up over 30 amps. I am pleasantly surprised this worked. Thanks for sharing. I was dreading having to replace the batteries for my diesel pickup.
Glad we could help my friend! Thank you for watching and for sharing your great results, we really appreciate it, hope you have a fantastic week. mad Mike the hammer SPC
The difference between the red and the yellow welder is duty cycle. The voltages and amperages are almost identical but the red one has a larger duty cycle. That means it can run longer at the higher amperage (say 100 amps). So if you really need to wake up a big boy battery (I found this out on an 8d…1400 cold cranking amps) with the yellow one you might time out the duty cycle before getting the full 5 minutes. Hope that helps, I see a lot of questions about it in the comments.
Thank you very much for your input, we really appreciate it my friend, hope you have a great week. mad Mike the hammer SPC
So would you want the larger one for a 12V Deep Cycle Group 31 100AH battery? ...or is the lower duty cycle one still fine because even though the reserve capacity is higher the cranking amps available is lower?
what settings did you use for the 8D battery? Still 5 minutes and 10 minutes off
What about voltage? no one says anything about it, what volts these stick dc welders output?
@@CHRIS75MASTER its known as the closed circuit voltage (CCV). For welders this size generally the DV voltage will be between 18-24 volts
Please note that its smart to insure that any ignition source is far away as the fumes are explosive.
Great vid.
Never knew you could do this though I suspected it might be possible.
As a mechanic for 40 years I could have done a lot of good had I known this back when I started.
Thankyou !
Thank you for watching and sharing Loren! Have a great weekend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
@@SweetProjectCars hi this is a great video! Just wondering on the welder to you have the negative coming from the positive plug coming from the welder or negative coming from the negative plug since they are reversible?
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Well all I can say is thank you for a great hack. I got the "red" 200 amp welder last week and this past weekend I had an old battery sitting in the shop since 2019,,,it had a 2016 battery date.
Went through the steps here on the video and when completed I put it on a trickle charger overnight. Came back the next afternoon and did a battery load test ( 3x to make sure I was actually getting a good reading )and it passed , it was Rock solid good. Now to go through the rest of my scrap batteries to see which ones will wake up.....but that one battery that has been revived just covered the cost of this welder. Thanks again for this great hack.
Awesome!! Glad we could help. Thank you for watching and sharing your results, we really appreciate it, have a great day my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
How long has the battery been working after being resuscitated?
looking at the comments I think i have something that may help. The welder matters. There is a comment below stating they charged and now the battery is backwards with pos and neg reversed. I think this is because they used a welder capable of mig or tig welding aluminum, whether on a wire feed gun attachment, or just through the actual welder. On these welders, in order to do aluminum, the leads are reversed so you would get their issue. so in the end, I think regardless of welder, you must make sure that your positive lead (stick attachment lead), is plugged into the welder on the positive terminal, and the negative or ground be connected to the welder with the negative connection. To do aluminum with a welder that is capable, one wound put positive on negative and the ground would then go to positive. Make sense? So make sure guys n gals... that both at the battery and at the machine the positive is connected to the welding stick lead and the negative is connected to ground or negative....Hope that helped?
Our videos are very product/tool specific, we share only what we have tested an know works every time. Thank you for watching and sharing Daddski 1, we appreciate your input. Have a fantastic day my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Can I use a Mig Welder for this? Not sure how to bypass the wire feed gun in order to attach the lead to the positive.
Thanks for the great Info. And thanks to Julio for finding an even less expensive way to save your batteries at about half the cost of the other heavy duty charger. And I love that you can also use it for some welding.
Our pleasure rotfan77!! That is exactly why we did this update for viewers so they can do this more economical process and have a welder to use as well, it's a "win - win" :) Thank you so much for watching and sharing, hope you have a fantastic weekend my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
This worked well for me with Trojan 8V golf cart batteries, with the following modification, I had to hook 2 batteries together in series to get any amperage flow. With the Titanium Stick 225, the thermal light came on immediately (also indicates a grounding issue). Tried a different welder and it didn't work either. Switched to the 2 - 8v batteries in series and it clicked over and started working. Thank you!
Great to hear!! Thank you for watching and sharing, have a fantastic day my friend. mad Mike & team
I did the baking soda method and revived 2 out of 5 of the old batteries I had. I called it a success. Using the high powered welder to charge the battery instead of the normal trickle charger is genius. Thus taking away the need to use the baking soda to activate it.
No baking soda required, not necessary. Thanks for your comment. Have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Baking soda neutralizes sulfuric acid. In other words, it would take the electro out of electrolyte. Haha
I don't see how baking soda could activate a lead acid battery.
I have used water and baking soda to clean out an old battery.Kept flushing it until it no longer bubbled. Then thoroughly flushed out the battery with clean water. Should use distilled the last few times before refilling it. Charged it it for 24 hours on 2 amp and it worked for, well I don't know. I moved away 2 1/2 years later.
@@markmcconnell8705 Does that mean the heavy lead acid battery is then lyter?, lol.
@@markmcconnell8705 Did you have at least one dead cell before you cleaned out the battery and refilled it?
@@markmcconnell8705 Exactly. Battery killer.
Purchased the YESWELDER that you have in the link for deep cycles. Turning it on the first time it worked fined and got good bubbling for 5 minutes turned it off and waited 10 minutes but that was it, cannot get any bubbling to happen after that no matter what I do with the welder, checked the connections and they are fine. Used a multimeter to see if any voltage was going into the battery when turning on the welder and it would jump up to 18 volts and then drop down to the batteries 12 volt.
Try it on another battery to test and make sure the welder is working correctly. That's what we do. Thank you for watching and asking. mad Mike the hammer SPC
It worked!! I pulled two one reading .36v and I did 3 five min shock and it bumped it to 10 v but stoped to 7.5v after resting
Good deal, glad we could help you! Thanks for sharing. Have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
So, your 12v battery peaks at10v and drops back to 7.5v. What can it be used for now?
@Sweet Project Cars Just did another six deep cycle 6v that where dead (.5v) and they are now bubbling like a soda :) on the original cart charger. You truly have something here that not a lot of people know and i learned first hand. i got both of the welders and like you said on the video i used the red on my car battery that used to be 1.4 v and now is at 12.6v with plenty of cranking power and the smaller welder on a utility cart that has 6 6v deep cycle 225 ah batteries that where not charging when i would plug the charger. i noticed after running the shock treatment for only 2 min at 22 on the small welder the charger was able to recognize them and charge them again. After the shock treatment i connected everything back in the Cart and they registered and started charging then a couple min later the charger was showing that they where fully charged, i took it out for a spin and then a minute in and it died on me so i plugged it in for charge again and ones it was showing fully charged i took it out again and this time it run for about 15 min, now i plugged it again and its been charging for about 11 hours and the batteries are bubbling like a soda however its taking a way longer charge and the charger is still showing 2/6 charged which means the batteries just need to cycle. Again I'm very grateful for sharing your findings with all of us and id like to thank you again. By the way i use jumper cables to connect them and also learned a valuable lesson not to crank the power too high or it might fry your battery :) (i actually did fry a car battery from a jeep by cranking it to 200 and battery got really hot and few cells stopped working )
you may haven't tried load testing it in before and after, but if the batteries will work again then yeah, just continue using them
You got it! We know this process works just try it yourself, you will love the results SnowCold. Thanks for watching, have a great week. mad Mike the hammer SPC
I have been using 12v unit adj to recover units for years.
I have been reviving batteries forever with non computer chargers.
Until this moment, I did not put them together. I am going to try. 2 to 200 amps, with full amp control. With the hf welder, extraction. I dont rich expensive gear. (I don't use cheap Chinese stuff for gold exstraction.)
After bringing them up some. I have found a pulse 4 amp charger that seems to restore them to 80 to 90 per capacity.
This a fantastic repair. thank mike
Thank you for watching and sharing, we appreciate the input Mike, have a fantastic weekend my friend. mad Mike
I would suggest a simple voltage check with a meter before and after the process and a simple battery stress test as well. Those would affirm the process.
Well Tony, do as you wish, but we don't need to affirm anything to anyone because we've been doing this process for years and years and years and we know it works when done as shown and works every time. Thanks for watching. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Which welder would I buy for larger batteries out of heavy equipment and trucks? They are 12V flooded lead acid batteries built the same as standard car batteries, but 2-6 times larger.
Use the one for standard 12v, everything is the same for that size battery my friend. Thanks for watching. mad Mike
Ive been doing this for 6 years i set mine to 20amps with voltmeter on the battery i sit it in till it reaches 14.4v and stop the charging process it can desulfate and charge the batteries bcause inverter arc welder doesnt have filter capacitor at the output and it puts out very high frequency hv pulses
Thanks for sharing. Have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Good info, Bernalyn. Is the high frequency HV pulse what makes it more effective at desulfating than a 200amp boost charger? I just bought a used 2/40/200 amp boost charger (manual / analog type) after seeing Mike's older method. I have 12V car and 6V golf cart batteries to recondition.
@@jarodofficer yes, the pulses are what shakes things loose so they can re-dissolve back into the electrolyte.
What about doing this then draining the batteries to get the sulfur sludge out, and then throw in distilled water for a clean out then put new acid into the batteries? Then even do this with new acid... I know it may not be needed but could that help even further? Even doing all that extra between buying a few more gallons of D.water and 3 gallons of new acid is at most another 100 bucks. I know old school rule was never to drain the acid out but i feel with this process it might help infuse new acid to the batteries. ? Thanks either way great video!
It's not necessary, but if it makes you feel better, have at it! Remember, the acid doesn't evaporate, it's still there just need to add fresh amzn.to/3gb9Ni0 before beginning the process then at the resting times if needed. Thank you for watching, have a fantastic day my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
For anyone that is stressing if their welder is able to do this or not you must have a DC inverter welder do not do this with a regular ac welder. The reason this works is because DC inverter welders send The amount of current to whatever you set it at, it automatically varies the voltage to meet that current demand. Where as a typical battery charger may be rated at 200a jump but what happens is that with all of this calcification it will raise the internal resistance of your battery. Let's say you put it in 200 amp jump mode, but its only outputting 14-16 volts or so by the time you calculate ohms law theoretically even if you're in 200 amp mode that charger will only be delivering only a few amps to your battery until the resistance is lowered by cranking on the starter which will allow the full 200a jump start to do it's job and will only then be able to deliver the 200amps but it goes directly to the starter. Now with the weld welder on the other hand, he doesn't give a crap about your batteries internal resistance. Because if your battery has a high internal resistance guess what? it's going to raise the voltage so that it can send the full amount of current that you set it to this is how it works. On mine I was watching as I was restoring my battery and in the beginning the voltage was as high as 66 volts and I was worried but this is how it works to break that crap up because in the beginning your battery has a very high resistance whereas a normal 200 amp battery charger starter wouldn't be able to save your battery this will
Thank you for watching and sharing Drew, have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Nice idea using the dc welder
Julio is a keeper 👍
Would be great if you'd actually do a before and after test though
Hoolio is a keeper when he shows up or isn't on vacation LOL. Thanks Chris. No need for a before and after, we know it works, try it and you will see it does too. Have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
For Australia where we use 220V. Would it make a difference for the welders I need to use? For example the DEKOPRO 110/220V MMA Welder,160A it would be 60 duty cycles on 220v
Specification:
Input Voltage: Ac110/220V
Current Range:10-160(A)
Rated Duty Cycle(%): 40/60
No, the welders come with a 220 plug my friend. Thanks for watching and asking, have a great day. mad Mike
One more question... We own a Tiara Yacht... with dead batteries 😊 6x a 12V 105Ah ... I removed the sticker... But they are completely sealed on top... ?? I can see the filling holes but there is no way to get in... any tips??
Hello my friend, can you please send pictures to us at sweetprojectcars@gmail.com We will see if we can get you pointed in the right direction. Thank you for watching and asking, we really appreciate it, have a great day DeFi! mad Mike the hammer SPC
@@SweetProjectCars I will do... Thanks for the help!!
Very good but some welding machines out put is a c current and some are d c current out put you don't want to put ac current inside of a battery that DC current inside
You are correct George! DC output, that's why we listed the welders that we use specifically for this process in the .....More of the videos description. Thank you for watching, have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Hooked Grandpa's old lead-acid golf cart batteries to my Miller Square wave 350 it worked wonderful been riding this golf cart around for weeks I did a 10-mile Loop the other day
Sweeeeet, Thomas! Thank you for watching and sharing your awesome results, we really appreciate it, have a fantastic day my friend and enjoy that golf cart. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Haha i have been mentioning these welders in different youtube channels a lot of late . They are the most robust power supply on the market and cheap as chips . A few channels are going to start re engineering them for different projects including tesla coils and and hho generator. Good work in spreading the word !
Thank you for watching and sharing. Have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
This process is called "Equalizing" the battery and is standard maintenance process used on led-acid batteries. Most of the time they will put a constant voltage Equalizing charge on it of 15v-16.5v for about an hour depending on the temperatures. At lower temps you can do it at higher voltages. What you're doing is basically the same thing but for a much shorter period of time and using higher voltages. Its actually a really great idea in my opinion because sometimes even at 16.5 volts you still can't push the current through the sulfated layer on the plates. They recommend to do this once every 1-3 months to keep them fresh on batteries that aren't used very often. If it's an AGM battery you need to be more careful to not overheat it. Thanks for the great video.
Our pleasure. Thanks for sharing! Have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Yep,did this when I was in charge of maintaining forklift batteries. Had industrial chargers that could equalize,wanted to say they did around 205 amps for equalizing,was years ago.
Is it amps or voltage on that welder's lcd-display?
How much voltage does the welder put in that battery? If I understand your comment correctly, 16.5 Volt 8s a maximum. But the welder does 200 Volt, does'nt it?
I have a 58 month old Exide 60ah Lead acid battery used in VW Polo TDI 1.2, properly maintained with 1st top up with distilled water at 36th month and 2nd top up at 58th month but still it died,
Now at what power should I use the welder ?
Yesterday my battery died, when I tested on multimeter
on car engine turned off the voltage showed 12.6volts
and on alternator charging it was 14.4volts
And on cranking the starter the voltage dropped down to 8volts which jus could not start the engine , but sometimes it starts easily , sometimes it doesn't .
Kindly advise 🙏
Start the welder on lowest setting, then gradually turn it up until you have a consistent boil on the cells, then make sure you use this amzn.to/3kmCThX after doing the process. Thanks for watching and sharing, have a great day my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
When you are adjusting the dial on the welder, are you adjusting the welding amps or the voltage. So is the 38 that the welder is cranked up to indicating 38 volts into 8 or 12 volt battery for 5 minutes on and then 10 minutes cool down. I h ave been using an additional 12 volt car charger along with my standard 48 volt charger that comes with my golf cart, 6 batteries.
Turn both dials to zero, then start turning the amps dial until you get a consistent boil on all cells, watch this update for more info ua-cam.com/video/TxrR1aepKlM/v-deo.html watch and re-watch all of the videos so you can get this down and first and foremost, make sure you are using the tools we use, they are very explicit Gary. Thank you for watching, have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Good advice for those who already have a DC welder.......but I still would use a face shield when looking down into the fill holes...
Any time you work on your vehicle there are obvious safety precautions, you don't want to hover over the cells and look in them while you are doing the process. Thanks for watching, have a great day. mad Mike
Nice video, but one correction the meter is reading amps not volts. The voltage output in the yellow is about 20.8v to to 26v.
Thank you for watching and sharing Adam. Have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
I got a question, can i use any electronic welder??? I got the cheap one from harbor freight will that work???
So let me understand? We're using a MIG welder to charge the battery instead of a battery charger?
You are understanding correctly Pete! Watch our newest video on this process ua-cam.com/video/KzOQH1twpI8/v-deo.html Thanks for watching, have a great day my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
At the start of this video you state that these are the only welders that you found that work. I would like to know what they are. Specifically the one to charge 6 volts.
Welder for Deep Cycle ONLY 6 Volt & 12V Batteries amzn.to/3yW4ihK or amzn.to/30k7YNg
Use This for all Standard 12-volt Batteries amzn.to/2K1UsWQ
***If the above welder is unavailable, either one of these will work **amzn.to/3mqhebK** or **amzn.to/3sH4COq** *** and just a reminder, all of the products/tools we use in our videos can always be found in the SHOW MORE of the videos description, if you can't find it let us know and we will help you. Thanks for watching. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Ordered my inverter welder today. Have bought pulse Tex maintainer which has been in place a couple years now. Not seen any real world improvement with it. Bought two more desulfator chargers with near endless hours ran on deep cycle batteries with very little improvement. This method looks promising but still up in the air about it. At I will have small stick welder that can be used portablely with genny. I’ll try this a couple times and if no improvement I will change out the electrolyte after boiling a couple times in distilled water. Also get specific gravity readings through out servicing. Thx for video
Happy to help Tommy! Thank you for watching and sharing, have a great day and all the best on your project my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Hi Sweet Project Cars, just come here from the link you sent me from the other video, thank you for that. Trying my stick welder. The lead that would be attached to the body of the work, has a red rubber cover on the clip. I did put this on to the positive terminal. I noticed that your machine has a black handle on that part and you put it on the negative terminal. This would have been my intuitive way also. It is a very old battery and still have three other better one's to try. Anyway, it started bubbling, 2 at first, then up to 5. The battery got fairly hot. It is in a very breezy part of the carport. When it cools down, I might try the other polarity, and stand well clear, which I do anyway. It went from 4.3 v to 3.8 v. This is fun but I do take precautions seriously. Cheers.
Harry, this video shows specific welders that we use and only recommend, please follow the video to a T, there is no other alternative, use the exact same tools, products and method, we've spent years perfecting this process. It works flawlessly every single time using either of these welders for standard battery amzn.to/2K1UsWQ or deep cycle amzn.to/3yW4ihK Thanks for watching, have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Would be great if you could do a load testing of the battery before and after. Thank you love your show.
We leave that to our viewers, we aren't out to prove anything, we share this because we know it works. Thanks for watching, we appreciate it, have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
I know next to nothing about welding. Bought a "Stark AC welder" a few years ago did not use it at all. Pulled it out and tried this method with 70amps. Thought I did something wrong. I heard a pop and the clamp that I used (may be it was too thin) burned off. But I tested the battery and WOWW!!! its up to 800 plus cranking amps! Thats from a max of 250 CAs after several attempts to charge it after using your previous "bubbling method". Mad Mike big props...this freaking works!
Good deal, glad it worked, surprised you got it to work with AC voltage, are you sure it wasn't on DC voltage? Thanks so much glad we could help. mad Mike the hammer SPC
just did a small 12 v..had 1.5 showing.. started charging, nearly nothing, but a little..cranked all the way up on welder, not much, but increasing..got better, but battery charger would't charge.. kept working with it and suddenly steam started shooting out of vents.. turned down..soon couldn't put welder on battery.. then charger would tAKE over. to my amazement, it worked. gratis
Awesome James! Thank you for watching and sharing your results, we really appreciate it, have a fantastic day my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
The smaller weld won't do 12 volt?
And the larger welder can't adjust down for the 6 volt battery?
I'd like to have only one welder etc...
Please follow the video to a T, there is no other alternative, use the exact same tools, products and method, we've spent years perfecting this process. Thanks for watching and asking Don, have a great week. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Thank you for the great video. I tried your process and was able to get all the cells the boil except for the two ends. Any suggestions?
With this method, if you can't get all the cells to boil then the battery is un-repairable. Thank you for watching and asking. Have a great day Brian. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Hello from Argentina!! I love that tip. Will try it with a dead batery that i have and ley You know if it's work and came back from the death. Keep the good work and thanks for all your help to the diyers and afficionates!!
Thank you very much! Glad to have you with us from Argentina my friend. Have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Hey Mad Mike, Thanks for the great video! UA-cam is awesome for sharing knowledge for all us DIYers. My wife says I need to take a break from my addiction to it. But seriously, I have a half dozen golf cart batteries and slew of other batteries I never returned for cores over the years and if I can save them I may be able to treat her to a date night or two. Happy wife, happy life! So my question is, what makes one welder suitable for the deep cycle batteries and not standard batteries and vice versa? Do they operate differently or is it amperage or adjust ability? Thanks!
Well Scott, we like to take the guess work out for our viewers, we've tried and tested many, many different welders over the years on the different style batteries and our recommendations are what we know without a doubt work, and work every time and are safe for both you and your batteries. Thank you for watching and sharing, we truly appreciate our great subscribers like you, hope you have a fantastic day my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
I have a battery that is over 10 years old sitting in the carport and I have it on the cement floor and I have heard that the cement floor destroys the battery completely so my question is can this battery still be revived or have you ever done a battery that sat on the cement floor for years thank You sir great information .Also should the water be replaced with newer distilled water and I know that it could be still acidic and what is the best way to discard this old water
Give it a shot, sounds like you've got nothing to lose my friend. There's no need to replace the water, just top the cells off to within an inch of the top with this amzn.to/3gb9Ni0 then as necessary during the resting times. Hope this helps, thank you for watching and asking, have a great week and all the best on your project. mad Mike the hammer SPC
@@SweetProjectCars well you can’t be mad mike you sound like a very nice person and you got back to my question thank You very but I will certainly call you Mr Hammer it still sounds tough now we just need to get both of our Countries Back in order WWG1WGA 🇨🇦🇺🇸
Thank you very much.I can confirm that this method works.I will try to give info how i did it so maybe someone will find it helpfull.My battery is 75Ah 12V one.It worked perfectly for 3 years without any maintenance at all.First i added 100ml of water to have it enough and over all cells for about half of inch.One cell in my battery was bad.I saw no bubling on charging using my welder on 30A.So i cranked it up to 80A.I keep it running for short time till battery temperature started rising up to 35deg (body temp).Then i made a pause till battery colled down completely.Then i did same thing again.This about temperature is IMPORTANT ..... it must be done as i described.I repeated this for about 15 times.Then i turned it back in to my car.It started at half of key turn.I am testing it today and tomorow i will know.....after cold night.....is this permanent solution or i have to repeat all for more times than i did it now.Battery was not capable to start the car before i tried this.Thank you again and Happy New Year!
Awesome Miki! Thanks for sharing your results, we appreciate it. Have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
@@SweetProjectCars It didnt restore full capacity....but was in better condition next day.....so i decided to repeat all over again till i see bubling in all cells to be the same.And it happened after many repeats (to avoid over heating - lowest current setting on my welder is 30A).Now it holds as new.
I've been watching your videos since 2016. I have always been Absolutely Amazed at your great knowledge and experience. Thank you Very Much Sir. Simply The Best!
So nice of you Loren! Thank you for watching and for your kind words, makes all we do worth it. Have a great week my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Agreed
Hey , how u doin 👍
How to charge the battery after this process , new electrolyte and then put in car to charge from alternator or trickle charge ?
After doing this process use this charger to slowly full charge the battery amzn.to/3kmCThX Thank you for watching, have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
I'd love if you measured the current with a hall effect Meter and voltage applied .. it. Would be far more effective for viewers to know it's all about these two measurements no matter what the source is
We only share what we know works, no need for that, but be our guest, shoot the video to us when you get it done :) Thanks. mad Mike the hammer SPC
The newer model Amico ARC200DC has 2 knobs. The one on the left says "ARC FORCE". The one on the right says "115/230 V". Do you leave the one on the right on low (115) and the one on the left on low and adjust as needed?
Leave the knob on the left at 1 then slowly turn up the other knob until you get a consistent boil on all of the cells Scott. Thanks for watching, have a great day. mad Mike
I topped my off with distilled water but it got boiling good at put some fluid on the floor of my garage. I am assuming that it took some acid with the water when it boiled over. Do I need to add acid now? How do I know how much acid to add if any? Also once I have all the cells boiling good after 5 cycles do I still need to trickle charge it?
It's not necessary to add acid Dennis, but if it would make you feel better, have at it. You need this amzn.to/3kmCThX to finish the complete process, please follow the video instruction as shown using all of the products/tools we use in order to get the same results. Thanks for the view, have a great week. mad Mike the hammer SPC
I ordered the welder last week from Amazon and restored my battery today. I had one hole that was a little stubborn to bubble but after cranking up the power, it was resurrected.
Thank you for the video good sir!
Awesome, Aaron! Thank you so much for watching and sharing your results, great job my friend! Hope you have a fantastic day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Can you post the link from Amazon please ?
The welders in the video has only one nob to turn but the Amico welders have two nobs. which nob on the Amico should i turn for battery to start bubbling and at what number do I leave the other nob turned to? I no nothing about welders, i need your help.
This may be beyond your capabilities, it might be safest if you don't try this process my friend. Have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Definitely trying this asap... this will help the battery situation since we're off grid😉thanks!👍🏻
Thank you very much. Have a fantastic day my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
I have to know. Are you like legit off grid were you can't get internet signal from home and you need to go towards the city to get internet connection. Or more like off the grid like solar power and your own batteries?
Solar and amenities for me but still off-grid 😅
Not clear on why I need two different welders? One variable machine cannot be adjusted to work on starter battery and deep cycle both?
You can use whatever you want to use Monty, we are just sharing what we have tried, tested and know works also, it's safe for both you and your batteries. Thanks for watching, have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
@@SweetProjectCars can you share what amps to set inverter at for each type of dead sulficated battery work? In theory deep cycles have thick plates need higher volts to reach full charge, then lower volt range to maintain full charge or float; vs. a starter battery which has thinner plates and does not need the higher volt range a deep cycle battery needs to fully charge and takes less time to reach full charge but still needs a lower float stage of using a trickle charger.
So not all of those inverter welders are available on the links, however I tried this method on engine starter battery first but at an amp setting below what the video displays trips the circuit. What amps are you using for each type of battery? Are you using 220v outlet? What is load rating of your outlet breaker to get the 120v outlet cord on inverter to work?
Okay, I bought a 200A DC inverter welder yesterday since the original battery in my 2015 TDi gave up the ghost in the cold weather. Rather than spend $200+ on another battery, I figured I'd buy a tool and at least try to revive this thing, plus the two 9 y/o batteries in my Cummins are about done as well. I topped off the level in the TDi battery and zapped it 4 times last night (it cooled off quick in the cold weather). When I was done the battery was at 12.92V. The car fired right up. This AM it also fired right up (20°F). We'll see how long this "fix" last for. I'll zap the truck batteries in the Spring when I need the truck again.
BTW, the electrolyte looked completely brown clay colored when done. If this holds out until Spring, I'll flush and put fresh electrolyte in it... it was nasty looking! Reply later if anyone wants a future update on how it worked out longer term.
Great to hear SS! Thank you for watching and sharing, we really appreciate it, have a fantastic day my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
@@SweetProjectCars Well sadly I woke up to a very weak battery, by the time I went to leave for work today, it wouldn't start the car. Napa is now the proud owner of the TDi battery...
thanks for the tip, mike...
i tried on my car 2 years old battery, because it was hesitant to start in the morning, using arc 160 dc welder, and it worked... been 3 days now..
just for info, i measured the charging voltage, it was 15.6 volts, on the lowest amps setting.
i used the schedule of 3 minutes on - 5 minutes off, 6 times, because i was cautious of the boiling acid, and the battery was very hot to touch.
Thank you for watching and sharing, we truly appreciate it my friend. Have a fantastic weekend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
STUBBORN CELL - To get my stubborn cell to start bubbling I cranked my welder up to 80 for 5 minutes but it is not quite waking up as it still will not bubble at 20.
Can I go higher?
Is this high setting hard on the good cells?
You can go up to 90, but what we say is to make sure to let the battery cool down then do the full process again to see if it wakes it, like the next day, it won't harm the good cells. Thank you for watching and asking. Have a great weekend my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Will the cheaper wielder (Deckpro 160 Amp) work with 8V golf cart batteries? Love this video and hoping to make it work with my (6) 8 volt golf cart batteries…that would make my day! Thank you Sweet Project Cars for the time and effort you put into the video and all of your comments. 🙏🏼👍🏼💪🏼
Yes it will Kris! Just cut all timelines in half for that size battery, sorry for the delay in responding my friend, hope you have a fantastic day. mad Mike
Hey I have one cell its the one at the end by positive terminal that isn't really bubbling like the other and the battery only lasted a couple of days. Alternator is good and I cranny the welder up all the way and it still won't bubble hardly, I've done all my batteries this way and they all worked but I can't get this one for some reason, what can I do?please help asap, thank you
Sounds like your battery is toast jay. You can do the complete process up to 5 full times, but if it doesn't work after that, it's toast. Thanks for watching and asking, have a great week my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Oh man, I just bought a new interstate battery from Costco and gave them my old one that had a 42 Month warranty instead of a 36 Month on the new one. Dang! But i was impressed that I got 48 Months on the 42 Month battery before it got weak and sulfated.
I almost feel like going back to Costco and getting the old one back and giving the rejuvenation treatment a try.
Great video, a welder as well as a battery charger, "two birds with one stone" comes to mind, keep up the good work, Paul from the other side of the pond.
Glad you liked it Paul! Thanks for watching and sharing, we appreciate it and welcome from across the pond :) Hope you have a fantastic weekend my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Thankyou for mentioning my name in all your videos. You the best !! love your channel.
Any time! LOL, thank you for watching and sharing Julio!! So glad to have you here with us my friend. Have a stupendous day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Hi Mike. I tried this process and yes it did work, but only for a DAY. Also, I cycled my battery EIGHT times with my welder and it boiled like crazy. The battery would not stay charged past 2 days! lol. My conclusion is I need to put in some new electrolyte and then it should hold a charge. HEADS UP. Any stick welder will work as long as the duty cycle can handle the 200 amps for 5 minutes. In addition to, I let it cool for 30 mins as the Texas heat is tough.
Thanks for watching and sharing, and you are correct, this is a process that should be monitored. Have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Did you add electrolyte? Did it work? If so, please describe your process
if the mat from the battery is gone, it wil not hold any voltage anymore. Its like clay, or fiberglas in the gell batterys.
Did it work with new electrolyte?
Can you do this with an old style buzz box welder with adjustable dial?
We only recommend the welders shown in the ...more of the video description, we've done all of the trying/testing for you and we know that it works and is safe for both you and your batteries my friend. Thanks for watching and asking, have a great week. mad Mike & team
I’ve done this with mixed results. I think it’s worth a try especially if you already have a welder. I wear safety glasses and do it outside.
Thanks for watching and sharing, have a great day. mad Mike & team
Got the latest grey Amico welder (which is a nice little welder for sure) that was recommended took an old ancient Legend battery out of my friends barn which was totally dead and sitting on the bare ground for a long time in a frigid climate, hooked it up and turned the knob till it started boiling (about 90 amps or so) I followed the procedure to a "T" and after cooling I charged with a NAPA 2 amp trickle charge for 24 hours it did bring the battery up to the spot right between "replace" and "good" on the NAPA charge gauge and
I tried it quick on my 16 HP JD mower which it easily started again and again with no trouble.....I was wondering if Julio ever recommends doing the procedure twice or if there is any detriment to doing it twice if one winds up with a marginal result. Oh BTW a couple things I noticed was if you try a battery and it won't boil regardless of how hard you hit it including (200 amps) its toast take it to the junk yard as the physical electrical pathway internally has been compromised somehow also I had trouble with the battery boiling over as it became warmer about (125 degrees) this was easily corrected with my wife's turkey baster by extracting a little bit (she'll never miss it) LOL .......Julio what do you think? 2nd time around with the procedure? also I ordered the battery charger recommended but still waiting for it . I will follow up with how this works
Thank you so much for watching and for sharing your results Darrell! Hope you have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
yea you can do it more then once
I must admit that I have used this method before and although it does not restore the battery to it's former cycling performance, it's definitely worth pursuing if you get through a lot of 12v batteries.
Over the years I have refined this method of using a large capacitor bank in parallel with a high current charger, to dump multi-hundred amp pulses into the battery to break off the cell sulphation in much the same way, without the risk of thermal run-away.
We've had batteries that have lasted years and years, you may have to do the process every couple years, but still a huge savings in the long run. Thanks for sharing. Have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Do you have a circuit diagram? I have some large capacitors and a large battery charger.
Well Mike, that's great will try that. on another note I had great success with another two batteries, one which I put in my JD gator and used for last two days starts first crack.. Happy new year from Ireland. D..
Possible to get more info of how ?
I've also seen someone build a high voltage pulse generator. He claimed 90% batteries come back to factory parameters...
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Thank you very much! We are glad to have you here with us, we truly appreciate it my friend. Have a fantastic day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
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Hi - I tried this on my battery - but 1 cell just didn't bubble the same as the others, even after the 5th round. Does this mean the battery is toast? Game over? Thanks
You can do the complete 5 step process up to 5 times, if it doesn't wake up after that, your battery is toast my friend. Thank you for watching, hope you have a great week. mad Mike the hammer SPC
@@SweetProjectCars Thanks Mike, appreciate the reply
Mike, I’ve got (4) scissor lift 6v batteries (cr-205). I’ve topped the cells off and I am now on my 8th cycle of bubbling with your instructions with the welder (MMA 160A). After the batteries have sat for a 24 hour period, they only read 5.9-6v instead of the 6.3ish they should be reading. I tried using a 6v noco genius trickle charger but it goes red (charging) for about 36 hrs then shuts off like it didn’t work. Do you have any suggestions? Or are these batteries just toast? Thanks in advance.
Try one of the batteries in your lift, if you've done 8 cycles, try one of them, if it doesn't work for you the batteries just may be toast, it doesn't happen very often this works more times than not. Give one a whirl my friend. Thank you for watching and asking, have a great week Jacob. mad Mike
@@SweetProjectCars okay, I tried and they are not holding charge. But there’s a bunch of powder in the battery tray of the lift. I assume dehydrated battery acid? Is it possible when I added distilled water I diluted the cells from a lack of acid and I now need to empty them and buy some more acid?
UPDATE: I solved the issue. I changed the acid out and batteries that read 5.9 now read 6.35 volts! $70 for 5 gallons of acid at a battery supply store.
Side note: one of the batteries somehow reversed polarity after changing the acid out. So I am now working to deeply discharge it and charge it back to reverse the polarity back to positive positive, negative negative.
Thanks for your videos!
Hi Sweet Project Cars.... My name is Greg and I'm 75 years old. Enjoyed your video on deep cell batteries I have a golf cart with batteries from Sept. 2012 and have not been able to afford new batteries so when I watch all three of your videos I decided to purchase the yellow welder. But no longer sold so I went with the YESWELDER ARC Welder 165Amp Digital Inverter IGBT Stick MMA Welder,110/220V Dual Voltage Hot Start ARC Force Portable Welding Machine which you recommended. I'm confused as to what power to set. My cart only runs for about 10min then rapidly starts slowing down. Could you do a video on the grey welder. thank you .....
I mean the Blue welder
Hello Greg, you want to start out on the lowest setting and gradually turn it up until you get a rapid boil, then follow the video process. I hope this helps, and remember make sure you recap and unplug the welder before disconnecting the cables. Thanks for watching and asking. mad Mike the hammer SPC
If this works as you say then lead acid becomes the best value for off grid power again rather than lithium.... So the batteries you zapped still holding good charge 6 months later?
Hello Jedics, we have batteries that are still working after 20 years. Hope this answers your question, thanks for watching. mad Mike the hammer SPC
@@SweetProjectCars Would dumping out the water and sediment after this process, then replacing the water also improve the batteries life?
What can I do if a have a shortened out cell. I mean with this process you create lead ,,mud" at the bottom of the cell and at some point it will be high enough to touch the cells and short them out. Is there anything I can do then?
My friend, if you can get the life of a battery doubled or tripled and that happens to your battery and you have to replace it, just be happy that you got to use the battery 2 or 3 times longer all for free. Thanks for watching, have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
@@SweetProjectCars well the battery is from my Ford Focus that was 5 years old at that moment and so was the battery. I was just dissappointed in all my other beater cars the batteries are at least a decade old
Many of us have a battery charger (or it is fairly cheap to buy) but few of us have stick welders (and they a much more to buy) so why not just stick with the battery charger method?
Because this is a way better option for this process greg, it's easier and is more economical. Thanks for watching and asking, have a great week. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Hey, it's me giving you an update about my battery charging attempt that I wrote about below. I checked my battery before the 5th round of charge and it showed 12.73 Volts. I charged it for the 5th time and tested the voltage again which was the same 12.73 volts. Installed it in my BMW 740IL which takes a lot of power to crank and it started right up. A happy ending. I just hope for it to hold its charges for a long time. Thank you Sweet Project Cars.
Awesome! Thank you for watching and sharing my friend. Glad to hear. Have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Some say sediment builds up in the bottom of the old battery, and needs to be cleaned out. What do you think?
charles we have never messed with that ...just do this process and you will love the results my friend
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Thanks "Julio"
Absolutely! We will pass that along William, thanks for watching. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Some say if it boils when charging,that cell is dead. Here, i hear the exact opposite. Does this realt work? Coz i have 3 dead batteries in my parking space
We wouldn't share something here if it didn't work xat xat. Thanks for watching, have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
I live off-grid in the PNW. I have a micro hydro-electric power plant that I use to charge six 6-volt deep cycle batteries (Trojan T105). The batteries typically last about 5 years. They are expensive to replace.
I am going to try this method to bring the old sets back to life. I need a welder anyway, so...
I'll let you know how it goes.
It's a win win Cregg, you get a welder to use for repairs and rejuvenating your batteries! Thanks for watching and sharing, have a great day and all the best on your project my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
How'd that go?? I can get cheap used T-105's in my area.
Lol I did this several years ago. Totally worked for me. I literally held my tungsten on one side and put my ground clamp on the other. I watched my voltage and did bursts of power rolling on and off in 5 second intervals. Did it for about 5 min
Awesome Brian! Thank you for watching and sharing, we truly appreciate it. Have a great day my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Let me make sure I got this straight on RV Derp Cycle Batteries start with the lowest setting on the charger first and run the first cycle with the hour rest then move the charger up to the next setting and repeat it once till you are up to the 200 amp setting ? Is that correct ?
Thanks for the great videos !
Michael, we start out on the lowest setting then gradually turn it up until we get a rapid boil on all of the cells, then follow the process shown in the video and remember make sure you recap and unplug the welder before disconnecting the cables. Hope this helps, thanks for watching and asking, have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
@@SweetProjectCars
Thank you for the swift reply I will be using the recommended charger and I will follow the directions as noted .
Thanks again for the great videos !
If you have all cells bubbling fast from the start and you complete your whole process one time is there any use to do the whole process again and if so what keeps improving or will it start to do damage.
You do it until you are satisfied with the battery result, sometimes it will wake it up after one time doing the process, some take 2 or 3 times. Thanks Calvin. Have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
I’m doing a 6V deep cycle battery right now and I’m getting zero to very light boiling. Does that mean it won’t work on this particular battery? FYI, I did another 6V deep cycle yesterday and brought that one back to life.
Hello Paul, you can do the entire 5 step process up to 5 times, if it doesn't wake up your battery after that, the battery is toast my friend. Thanks for watching and sharing, have a great week and all the best on your project. mad Mike the hammer SPC
I did this with a deep cycle 12 V boat battery today using the recommended Deko welding machine and it restored it back to new condition. Hope it lasts awhile.
Glad to hear it dawgduo! Great work my friend! Thank you for watching and sharing your results, we really appreciate it, hope you have a fantastic week. mad Mike the hammer SPC
after the final boiling process, have you ever dumped out the old acid? seems like you should be getting rid of that old dirty acid and adding new acid . your thoughts??
Not necessary. We've found that when you analyze until paralyzed you don't accomplish many things. Our channel is based on simplicity that works. Great question though, thanks for asking. Happy New Year. mad Mike the hammer SPC
@@SweetProjectCars Love that philosophy! 👏👍
Did this with the battery out of my wife's car, opened it up an there was barely visible water. Kept adding water until it was about a half inch from the opening turned the welder on (red one you have) and nothing. Turned it up a bit and the water started overflowing. Any idea why? After the water leveled out it was bubbling a bet. After five rounds all but one bubble well the odd one out bubbled but dot as well. Will check the voltage I a few days to make sure it's holding. Thank you.
Depending on the battery, before starting the charging process you want to be about a quarter of an inch above the plates inside, and turn the charger up slowly, turn it up too much and it will overflow especially if there is too much fluid in it. Thanks for watching Scott! Have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Bubbles displace liquid, they form all down inside the battery and bubble up. Too much fluid and it overflows.
what brand and size is the "red" welder used on the auto batteries
This amzn.to/2K1UsWQ is the new recommended one. Thanks for asking, and remember all of the tools/products used in our videos can always be found in the SHOW MORE of the videos description, let us know if you need help finding it. Thanks for watching and asking. Have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
From what I've seen on UA-cam and tried myself minimum amps required to start bubbling is 50amps. However this amount will not be sufficient enough to desulfate the plates inside a lead acid battery. Also some batteries require a discharge before being put back to use. So go through this process and fully charge the battery then put a load to measure voltage drop and check where it settles (12.6V - load = resting voltage) light or actual load tester (tool) for a few seconds then remove the load and see if the voltage returns to 12+ V. It won't be the same as before the test but it is a good indicator that the battery is in functional state. Then proceed to discharge it approximately to around 10.5V then recharge it until full 12.6+V and should be good as new. Also like you replied some batteries are not capable of being reconditioned due to internal damage.
Thank you for watching and sharing, we appreciate your input Frankie! Have a fantastic week my friend. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Is there a cheaper welder that will do this?
My grandpa passed and left a ton of golf cart batties and 2 golf carts in need of some batties, would be amazing to wake up the batties and see if they live again! Bringing my grandpas ranch back to life!
The welders we share are the one's we recommend, you will pay for that welder over and over again with the savings you have in golf cart batteries! Please follow the video to a T, there is no other alternative, use the exact same tools,
products and method, as shown here 3c5.com/4u6dj We've spent years perfecting this process. Thanks for watching and asking, have a great week. mad Mike the hammer SPC
@@SweetProjectCars Ok I'll have to buy the one you showed. Would anything bad happen if the deep cycle welder was hooked up to a normal car battery?
Maybe this question has been asked before...but... Why would one welder work for this process but another wont? Seems straightforward with an inverter DC stick welder with the proper amperage.
Well, it's no different than going to buy two porterhouse steaks, each from different butchers, they look almost exactly the same but taste completely different. We have checked and tested almost every welding unit out there and the one's that we suggest can be safely used. Of course, you can use anything you want but we have seen what happens to batteries when a unit is used that is different than what we recommend. Thank you for watching Bill. mad Mike the hammer SPC
How about before and after load or resistance test? Actually show it "works"
We will await your video showing the before and after. We aren't here to prove anything to anyone, we know it works, as a channel with 700 videos, we aren't out to harm or play head games with anyone. Give it a shot! Thanks. mad Mike the hammer SPC
its basic low-tech electrochemistry man, forcing the sulfate back into solution and off the plates
Tnx for sharing sir. Battery companies wouldn't like that 🤣🤣🤣
you are very right
Will this work for the battery of a 1998 crown vic that's been sitting unused for more than 16 months?
We've had success with batteries that have been sitting Patrick! Give it a shot, you have nothing to lose my friend. Follow the video to a T and use the exact same tools/products we use. Thanks for watching, have a great day. mad Mike the hammer SPC
Will this welder work? Forney Easy Weld 140 MP, Multi-Process Welder
Please follow the video to a T, there is no other alternative, use the exact same tools, products and method, we've spent years perfecting this process. Thanks for watching and asking, have a great week. mad Mike the hammer SPC
I use my welder and it works too on regular 12v car battery will this work for agm batteries too?