As a black person I really appreciate this. For some reason a lot of people are too afraid to learn the differences drawing black people, when really learning these differences actually just makes us more comfortable and together as a humanity.
Exactly this. Its a really neat tool. It won't apply to all black faces and it doesn't need to, because styles are different and real humans are different. It won't be all black people in art as even the samples display, this is predominantly people with pronounced upper lips instead of lower lips. But it is fascinating how much this works to immediately convey a sense of "hey that character immediately looks of African descent."
Mr popo is the perfect black character since his the literal black guy. Edit: ya know, now I start to wonder is the blue mr popo can be considered white washing
Especially since learning about the variety of human forms from observation allows us to portray actual humans rather than racist caricatures. The "antiracist" triangle is just the consequence of the shape of the upper jaw, which does go forward, regardless of race (but does tend to be more forward among black people). The anime profile very often seemed off to me because there is this excessively receding lower face.
It's super useful. I used to just draw POC characters how I draw white ones but colour swapped, but now I'm learning how to better visually represent different groups
There's this Japanese UA-camr, Shogo, and he once explained that masks were accepted more readily in Japan, because people communicate more with their eyes in Japan (he may have said in east Asia, I don't remember all details). And that made me think that anime eyes were so big, because they were the most important thing in the face to convey the emotions of a character. And the rest of the face is like built around them.
Ok... I'm an artist from Poland and NEVER in my entire life heard about this weird triangle with nose and chin. All my art teachers was saying that we have to learn to draw from nature, from real people. And only if we are very good at realistic proportions of human being we can draw in some kind of style.
@@RogerCharlamangethe triangle is absolutely a thing thats taught, but it's mainly taught in internet art circles, how to draw Anime/manga books, and kids who are copying animation to learn to draw
@@RogerCharlamangethe triangle thing is very much a thing in online internet circles. alot of ppl praise really weird and questionable guidelines and ‘correct’ art to match the guidelines even if it looked fine before,,
When I was young my art class consisted of the my entire black history club for some reason. I drew a black character and one of the members said... "You don't know how to draw black people do you?" I thought, "I'm black I can draw black people however I want." not realizing what he was talking about... this video is what he was talking about. I'm currently an art director for a small project working with character design, but I was always a strict art rule follower so realizing that I could have just broken the triangle rule is liberating. It's crazy how long I've been trying to follow this rule despite my own face not following it and not realizing it was ruining my art.
Same story. I remember going to my church's summer camp, doing art, people being impressed by the skills but curious why no one looked "Black." I took it as a slight at the time but it was an honest take from non-artists who wondered why this kid wasn't drawing people that looked like him or anyone in the community
I think it's fine to generally go for more "catlike" anatomy with black characters as long as it's your own personal preference and not a dumbass "rule" (which in your case it wasn't) - Atsushi Okubo (featured on the left side of Ethan's anime examples) does the usual anime stylization when drawing black characters, with some variance in hair & lips, but black people tend to love those characters - and I think there's a visually noticeable difference between having a personal preference, a style that's clearly purposeful, and ignoring general ethnic traits because of white-centric art rules.
it's funny that i already don't use the triangle rule, but what i actually did learn from this video was to make 2 separate circles for the skull, even tho he doesn't aknowledge that for the whole video
That's because he did a separated vid for it! And I really appreciate how he constantly repeats his lessons in almost every video he makes. That's a great teacher quality right there.
I heard that Vincent Van Gogh said basically "Now that I've learned how to draw things correctly, why should anyone get to tell me I can't draw them however I want?" Which, I'd never be able to find the quote again, but I like the principle. In my way of thinking, the path of art goes through basic stages. First, you doodle -- no knowledge of the rules or any sense of structure, just establishing some basic skills. Then you're an amateur, with no rules but you're actively trying to achieve something with your art, even if you have no idea how to do it. Neither of these are bad, by the way: If you're going to get anywhere with your art, you need to pass through these stages first, and if you decide to never go any further, so what? If you're enjoying the art form, just keep on enjoying it. No one gets to say that you "should" (let alone "must") work your way up to a higher level. (Just like people who are enjoying Rock Band or Guitar Hero don't need to work on learning a "real" instrument, and people who are writing hobbyist fanfiction don't need to switch to "real" writing, and those who enjoy singing in the shower don't need to go sign up for voice lessons just because they like to sing. There's pleasure and benefit to be had at all levels, and sometimes the beginners have an unusual style that the masters can't even mimic.) Anyway, then you learn a few rules, and move into basically the sophomore stage: You know a lot of rules, but at this point you're convinced that the rules are Rules -- that if you're a Good Artist you must collect and follow All the Rules. Slavish devotion to "rules" without grasping the underlying principles of why those "rules" exist. Then, eventually, if you keep going, keep improving, you get to the stage beyond sophomore... maybe a junior, if we follow that terminology. Or an Apprentice. At this point, you've learned to see beyond the rules, at least a little bit. You've learned that rules are good, but that there are times when you bend them, or break them, or throw them out altogether because they're not applicable to the project you're working on. But you still see the rules as *basically* rules. When you move up to senior/craftsman level, you've got a good grasp of the role of "rules" -- how they got developed and why, and their place in the grand scheme of things. You know that you don't have to abide by them, you know how to break them for effect, how to choose which rules to follow and when, etc. Finally, at the Master Craftsman level, you no longer think about them in terms of rules; there's no need for you to specifically apply any structure, because you're skilled enough that you've internalized whichever underlying principles the rules taught you, and can create art naturally, no more conscious of the "rule" part of the process than I am of the way I'm moving my fingers to type on these keys (at least, until I made my brain pay attention to them again). So the basic progression I've noticed is that you start out unaware of the rules, then you learn them, then you *overapply* them, then you realize they're "more like guidelines," then you determine where and how to make use of them, and then, having learned all that the rules have to teach you, you move beyond them using some or all of the underlying principles that people pass along as "rules."
Yeah... but I think the fact that she called the "wrong" version "gorilla proportions".... it really shows that it wasn't an innocent mistake on her part.
it was just a poor choice of words, i think y'all need to learn to give people benefit of the doubt. also it did look like a gorilla in all fairness, and not because the character has black features or is black, but because the jaw was literally gigantic and protruding
Actually, look at our primate cousin and you'll see their chin protrude forward while humans show receding chins which in the world of humans tends to be appealing versus protruding chins or eyebrows in general
@@HERTZZBR You might need help, racism is quite literally intentional. Calling an innocent mistake or thought racist when there was no ill is exactly the kind of bullshit that makes people into actual racists.
Art drama can easily be avoided. Since the biggest drama is my own art being awful and ruining my mental health everyday. Not getting better and drawing the way you want after 4 years of only practice and learning . I learned nothing and lost my creativity
@@sael5084 You sound like every artist in this generation, and like most of them you draw good stuff so it comes out like pity begging. Love yourself and love your work
@DemsW thanks but not really I don't enjoy drawing at all. I can't draw the way I want. I can't draw what I imagine at all. Even with reference I can hardly do something recognizable. I lost my creative touch I had when first starting art. I wasted 4 years and can't draw freely like others do. I have high ambition but limited by bad art skills. I can't love what I sincerely dislike. Others pitying Me won't help. I would appreciate criticism though and pointing out my flaws
It’s more racist lmao. The triangle he came up is basically “how to draw a racial stereotype side profile” lol Edit: the people in the replies are so factually wrong and racist that’s it’s almost comical. Am I watching a comedy skit? Yes, big lips exist. And? Monobrows exist, doesn’t mean every fucking Mexican has one. Or that it’s more accurate to draw a Mexican with a monobrow because some Mexicans might have a monobrow. You realise that is literally a support of racist stereotypes right? “Racist stereotypes came from real traits some black people might have had so therefore the stereotype is accurate” my god. You know how absolutely fucked that logic is right. I can twist that around and say calling black people a race of thieves is not racist because some black people stole things so attributing the stereotype to them is totally fine because the stereotype must have came from somewhere. It’s a completely racist argument which is being used to unironically justify racist ideals. And yeah, some black people have big lips. AND? Big lips don’t push your face out like that. Never will. And I’ve never seen a black person in my life with a face that exaggerated. And Afro’s haven’t been a racial stereotype since the 1960’s. So no idea why you brought that up. According to anthropologist, all human races are 99.9% genetically identical. Why are physiologically the same species. Wanna know why? Because there is no such thing as race. It’s a made up myth. Human is a species, homo sapien is a race. All humans alive today are Homo sapiens. We are the last human species alive on the planet. So Saying that “black people have different physiology” so that’s why I’m wrong is LITERALLY what the nazi’s were trying to prove with eugenics. You people are racist. You are basically saying black people are a different species. Yeah no, they share the same skeletal structure of every other human race on the planet and all your attempts to say black people have fat lips and big noses is just racist. Some do, but you’ll see more without them if you bothered to pay attention to your “fellow man” more. To quote whoever said that.
@@zzodysseuszz No. Many black people just have different facial structures from white people, and other black people. That stereotype was made to mock their facial differences, not to gaslight everyone into believing the difference exists in the first place. The difference DOES exist. It still exists, and not drawing it makes alot of black characters not look black. Of course, as demonstrated in the video, not every person or character has those facial features so it's not always necessary, but people shouldn't be afraid to make black characters look black just because those features were mocked in the past. just don't make some shit like mr popo lmfao it's not that hard
honestly the solution to most disputes. "your racist words don't exactly make you a racist, they are the result of you being taught racist things. it's how you move forward with this new information that determines who you are"
@@revelmonger All Lives Matter is a reactionary dog-whistle for white nationalism. You aren't fooling anyone. You're either painfully stupid or too scared to be an open racist. Everyone knows all lives matter. So why do darker-skinned people get disproportionately targeted by the law? Who does redlining usually effect? Sad, sad little person.
Props to you Ethan for turning this into a genuine constructive conversation and learning experience. We appreciate your presence in the community fr 🦅
I agree. Instead of worrying about whether kooleen should be accused or defended, we should be worrying about updating the flawed rule itself. It's interesting cause philosophers did the same process in their arguments, the process being called 'dialectics'. please look it up if you dont know 🙏💖💖
I'm a Mexican guy with very brown features, and hell this is the best advice I ever heard from someone in the industry. guidelines just make things easier and more uniform, but if they're antiquated or the style doesn't hold it up, kick it to the curb! plus I'm also southern so maybe we're just artistically built DIFFERENT
even though what kooleen did mightve not been intentionally racist i dont think shes that great of a source to go to when trying to improve your art unless your trying to follow her artstyle. she seems to only draw one specific type of thing and barely try to go out her comfort zone and thus ends up misguiding her fans but that could just be me im not sure how to properly articulate my thoughts and feelings about it but yeah
I'd like to mention I'm black and I've used this thing because I thought it was supposed to be used for every race I didn't notice the difference in facial structure from a white person and a black person 😅 edit: What have i done
@@monsterking7676the reason why people mostly think of black people with that tutorial is that she says that lips never go further beyond noses, "no matter how big and juicy those lips are". Lips that go beyond nose tips is mostly common among black people. She also said "wtf gorilla lookin mf" next to the "wrong" one so it reminded people of phrenology
@@wetbaklavabut it is such a lame excuse for hating because she says those things about everyone or every drawing A mindless dumb comment shouldn’t be taken as an excuse to cancel someone lol
as a black guy whos 36 and has been drawing on and off and frustrated up until recently as in the past decade i deeply appreciate you breaking this down enough that i could pick this up. drawing someone that looked black for the longest was quite difficult since all of my references were anime faces from the late 90s and early 2000s internet
My style is semi realistic mixed with anime, any racial diversity was so difficult ! According the the drawing tutorials my proportions where wrong, so my drawings never looked right, I’m so glad we’ve reached a new age, finally I can get educated on diverse proportions
Ethan threw himself into the drama i love it Edit: she didn’t just “make a mistake” she called black features gorilla looking, Ethan I’m a big fan but she still did say some racist things
I discovered this when I was drawing my brother's face (we're black) and his lips protrudes through the guide line. So you can make your own rules by studying from life, that's how the masters do it.
I'm not even black and i have a tiny nose basically and a soft chin so the triangle wouldn't work for me not because I have big lips or bimaxillary protrusion, but simply because my other traits sit that way compared to my pretty average lips. This is the first time I've heard about this triangle and it's weird to me that it's used so much. I guess that's why so many anime oc look the exact same, that's literally half of their face
"The triangle is racist" is probably a statement that can transcend various contexts, and it's something that only Ethan can absent mindedly come up with while still making sense 😭😭😭 this is what wisdom looks like
As someone who wants to draw more black characters, this was very educational! Edit: For the record, I don’t think this is like the bible for drawing black people, but I def think it’s a nice starting point for beginners like me. He also mentioned a few black artists that I started following, that have a plethora of variations on how to draw a black person’s face
if you wanna learn to draw black characters, find black art tutorials by black people. you’ll get better tips and tricks that way edit: y’all are taking this so seriously… ask who you want about whatever you want. i’m just saying if you want some expertise on how to draw and stylise a certain race, try finding artists of that race- just like ethan suggested. if you don’t want to then don’t 💀
When I read the title the first thing that came to mind was the Bermuda Triangle. Like there was a part of the ocean where everyone who wanders into it becomes lost but only if you're Hispanic.
It's easy to say that "one rule fits all" is a thoughtless assumption, but not many go out of their way to actually make new rules and guidelines like Ethan does👍
From an artist perspective, thanks for reminding people that rules are meant to be bent and broken. Understand them and know their utility but also move beyond them so that you aren't limited by them. Art is supposed to be unlimited creativity.
I honestly LOVE the style of the “anti-racist triangle” even on non-black characters. Characters with a forward mouth, even if they don’t have big lips, it makes them look… plump? Probably the wrong word but it really lends to circular shaped designs and just adds a super nice pop
As a white person with this face shape this is really reassuring 😭 I can't even imagine what POC have to deal with when so many of their natural features are seen as ugly or incorrect when they're NORMAL and cute!
I always wondered why that "rule" never worked for me. Why the people I drew didn't really look like me so I would push the rule but still couldn't quite get it to work. This is incredibly helpful!
This isn't poking a wasp nest, you are downright teabagging the hive and I salute you for your sense of humor. Take my like and shine on, you crazy diamond.
There are no hard and fast rules with drawing anything organic really. Just different shape designs and proportions. My professor used to make us do mass quick studies of different faces, and I realised that there is no one way to draw facial features or structure. It all depends on the character and shape design you are trying to create. Knowing how to draw different variations just adds to your arsenal.
Guess everyone online that does art advice is supposed to be expected to have a college degree in the arts or they shouldn't be allowed to make tutorials?
@@breewashere Are you implying the person you're replying to is saying that? Because they absolutely did not say that. In fact I more got the idea that you should get tips from different kinds of people as it allows for a better understanding than getting it from just one UA-cam artist.
Yeah. Loomis heads and whatever other techniques really are just placeholders for perspective + proportions. The important details will 100% depend on the subject.
@@TheVillainousSoul yeah! I think I’m just echoing what ethan kind of implied in the video. You can use the racist triangle. You can use anti-racist triangle. But the point really is to collect as many "triangles" as you can cause the human form is incredibly diverse and nuanced.
The person who made that initial tutorial had written “wtf gorilla lookin mf” next to the “wrong” one, and while fixing the portrait of the black woman she had made the lips and the nose smaller too (in an attempt to give critique). It seems like a mistake due to ignorance but what she did in response to all of this was to ignore this issue for two weeks although she was aware of it, while producing 4 different unrelated videos. That is what made people think that she truly was racist. Yes, as a content creator you certainly can make a mistake but ignoring it when you have such a huge platform and influence and then writing a very vague, defensive and misleading apology is not it. Let this be a lesson for all content creators. Don’t ignore your mistakes. Own them and fix them.
Honestly I was on the whole she was probably just ignorant and wasn't actually trying to bash the race but the drawing, and from her "apology" she did say exactly that. But I do agree that it looked bad for her to not only take a hot minute to even say anything about it, but to also post "normal" videos in between? Like gurl..
@@arantzap yeapp and everyone thought that we were mad simply bc she made art roast vids with consent and we didn't get her humor. It was deliberately misleading. She also said that people who were still mad at her were "irrelevant"... The ones who accepted her "apology" were all mostly white kids who couldn't unferstand the gravity of the situation 😭
@@stephenlee1108 Exactlyyyy initially I said the same thing and just expected from her to take accountability, properly apologize and fix her content. She pretty much ignored it and that was when I lost all the respect that I had towards her. The apology felt like "ugh ok fine you won't shut up about it there ya yo I apologized"
And then she proceeded to totally misunderstand why people were mad in the first place Edit: and her white fans accepted the apology that wasn’t even made for them
Even if Kooleen wasn't being intentionally racist, it can be incredibly hurtful for someone to call your features gorilla-looking. So I 100% understand why people got upset. That being said, I think she has suffered enough backlash now.
This is my take on it as well. I wouldn’t appreciate features commonly prevalent in my race being called gorilla looking (also when you account how that word is negatively used to describe with black features, too), and I also believe she was being so … so ignorant. Of course people are going to get upset. She’s made some other - at best, ignorant remarks - and at worst, overtly racist ones (not knowing what fades were in a fan’s artwork & “correcting them” in her version). Even if ill intent was or wasn’t there, it leaves a bad taste in your mouth.
@@vanilla7994when does it become racist? Cause she was saying things that were popular durinf slavery time to dehumnnise black people? That's like a man hearing something sexist and saying it's ignorant. It's dismissive af
If you're missing the point of what ethan is doing in this vid, he's basically teaching us to see events like this as an opportunity to talk things out in the community, wherever is a mistake, is an opportunity to learn, not to fight.
People have sad lives man, they’re lonely, so they cling to any chance to get attention whether it’s positive or negative. Cancelling people for stupid bs all the time
@@Rain-nm1ee an artist with a very large online following telling her fans that their art is bad and inaccurate because it doesn't adhere to the strict guidelines that she personally abides by is a topic that many in the art community are interested in. If you're not, move on. But it's guaranteed there's something that you care about that most people don't give a shit about.
@@user-jb1mb5xh9tArt should be realistic in terms of adhering to racial traits. There is no racist triangle, people just want to be white. That's how our society is engineered.
im both an artist AND high and its hilarious to me too. basically hes giving a solution to a problem where some artists will draw black characters with the proportions of white characters, when most black people dont have the same facial proportions as white people. hes using guidelines to show how to tweak the proportions of a character's face to make them actually look black. and hes being really casual funny about it to boot
Honestly I wish people would observe real life instead of trying to jump straight to trying to learn to draw by tracing anime characters. I have friends whose art skills haven't progressed in 20 years or more because they learned from copying manga stuff and never started out with observing the actual world, so they don't know what they don't know.
I would probably input that this formatted state is based on a specific medium, simplified art for animation or production art when their is a deadline. Draw fast so a few rules need to be used to keep the art consistent and reproducible. This also serves as a guide for those just starting. In reality, people are all kinds of shapes, sizes, and forms and art is meant to be explored. Certain to develop your own style you observe reality, but art isn't all based on reality. He's just showing a general pattern that can be deduced and used in art, and definitely a nice reference to learn from 😊
This is why realism is important for any kind of artist. When I learned realism it instilled in me the importantance of different features and learning as much as you can about the body bc so you can do anatomy regardless of style. They teach you this in animation as well so that you can copy any style for diff projects and produce consistent images. And so you can have variety in character design. Same face syndrome is unfortunate. That's just the artist culture I was exposed to growing up
this is very true. i do a lot of low resolution pixel art for a game i'm making and even though a face can be like 5 pixels tall you HAVE to think about the underlying features and shapes or it just won't look good. i've drawn a whole realistic sketch just to decide if i wanna remove ONE pixel from a character's chin or not, almost like that spongebob clip of him drawing a whole face just to draw a circle.
Zoomer poser artists would much rather cry and comfort each other about their lack of skills on Twitter than learning the fundamentals like anatomy properly.
@@ejsafara456Ethan gives all the context really A lot of current art comes from japanese tradition, which teaches that the lips shouldn’t go past the nose and chin. Is not racist, is just a way to visualize things. But people on the internet love criticizing others to feel better at themselves so they instantly called Kooleen racist for telling someone to follow that rule. She added “gorilla looking mf”, but like, she says that kind of things about LITERALLY EVERY DRAWING EVER.
The way you talk always calms me down and makes me laugh while I learn stuff, you help me a lot to not be too uptight/stonefaced about my art :) you're the cool art uncle to me
I think people just need to realize that there are multiple ways of drawing faces. I primarily draw African features and follow the single triangle rule because that's just what I'm used to and my characters still look like they're black, I didn't even know this was a topic of debate.
people's issues are more on the "gorilla lookin mf" rather than kooleen drawing the same face shape ive seen most say that she can draw whatever she wants to and it would have been fine, but the problem lies with the fact that she deliberately went ahead to call that face shape "wrong"
Honestly, a character can have what ever face you want them to have, its only racism if you decide that every black person has to have this extruded lip, or every asian person has to have buck teeth or every white person has a longer neck. These traits don’t exist across entire populations, some do such as eye shape and skin tones, but secondary facial features dont.
@@RusticRonniefacts. East African people like Somalis and Ethiopian most of the time have sharp noses and not a typical flat African nose. Some Asian also have sharp noses too
@@aspenmp4222 I just struggle drawing side profiles. And instead of actually taking the time to practice, I opted to never draw side profiles and struggle with how weird it looks.
2:26 “i love to hate everybody. it’s like i got so much hatred in me it’s like- AAAH it’s like what do i do with this, you know?” **holding a fluffy pen**
Speak on it Ethan, I grew up drawing Black and White characters as great as can be "equally" but I cant lie I subbed a year ago because you made black characters look Amazing and not to over the top in facial features but still true to the Look, DBZ is wrong for that Mr. POPO. lol
@@breewashere During ww2 and after, foreign countries brought racist caricatures of black people to japan, the reason that this is barely corrected in modern day japan is because japan has horrible english education, and in general has one of the lowest english literacy rates in asia, and since most japanese people have never seen a black person in their life (Japan has many strict rules against immigration), and even with acess to social media, most social medias used by japanese people do not interfere with the western social media such as nico nico video, LINE, pixiv, even in this day and age many japanese are not very aware of the outside world. Particularly older generations would not know the history or negative connotation the caricatures have and just assume it's some cartoony style thing. Also Mr. Popo isn't really a black man, he's just an alien thing.
Im pale as a sheet and the racist triangle doesnt fit me because my chin juts out real far. I think people just need to realize that people arent a monolith and you cant expect everyone to draw the same as you or hope to draw the same as you. If we arent loose with art we lose the passion and meaning behind it
I come from Mexican and Native American ancestors and I have something more similar to the second facial structure. Kind of upsetting that people are saying that ONLY black people have it, as I’ve seen white people with it and black people without. Not to mention all the other races and ethnicities.
@@Z_ayyYe, i try to just ignore those kind of people. Just got to Remember that the people thinking everything is about race, and something being exclusive to certain of them, are just people that never go outside their room, lol. Way better to think that we all share the human experience😂
The hurry past Mr. Popo 🤣 Yeah, he's not so great to look at with adult eyes. There's no fixing that. I've heard he was supposed to be based on Mahakala but I'm getting minstrel actor in a genie outfit.
As a human with a nose, chin and lips, I appreciate this video. Thanks Ethan for spreading awareness. Cats are cute, but not when they take over human features and dominate the world with triangles. 😂❤
It's bizarre because like, it's not even only black people that can have that facial structure. It's much more common, but it's not exclusively black people. So the idea that its wrong is even more absurd because anyone can have that facial structure.
Just... y'all. Please take your time to learn the basics as well as what was address in this video: learn from DIFFERENT, multiple artists. There will always be some sort of short-cut way of drawing parts of human anatomy, but it's so so SO helpful to understand shapes, line, value, dimension, perspective, motion, etc. The whole stinkin' shabang. Learning the rules to break them is true to everything you do-Art or not. Really helps you avoid having very linear philosophy over your art knowledge and skillset.
Ethan is a sub-par amateur artist, the talking parrot catering to zoomer artists wasting their time on Twitter in their echo chambers comforting each other in their lack of art skills. You people should stop watching Ethan and go look at established artists perfecting their craft instead of poser artists trying to monetize every avenue like UA-cam, selling brushes, terrible artbooks, etc.
This new triangle is very helpful. The original triangle doesn’t fit most faces. Many of my friends are hispanic and they all have different face shapes so this triangle kind of helps to do their shapes. Also I hope people start drawing bigger noses more often because we always draw small noses but most people around me have big noses
The thing about this is that the former head shape isn't even exclusive to black characters or black people, funnily enough a lot of men across races have that feature, i found that to be the case with Southeast to East Asian men; the line doesn't consider outliers or nuances, it favors general facial aesthetics, facial features people are generally attracted to, and racial dimorphism actually can aid attractiveness if it doesn't show extremes, everything closer to averageness while teetering on some uniqueness, whether it be ALMOST exclusive European traits or ALMOST exclusive African traits (what people don't seem to understand is that there is no exclusivity across races because race is a social construct structured on vague bases); so it'll be interesting to see his take on this. Somehow I predicted this video, its likely point, and some variation of this title. Yes, I am bragging.
@@melancholygirl7793 i mean, one, gorillas notably have a protruding jaw from their nose, some humans naturally have that kinda feature since we originate from the same ancestor as other primates, though obviously more anatomically relevant to humans; two, it's less of awful strange, at least to me, and more of Kooleen doesn't draw her characters to look like her or as if she has a superior headshape, she knows she doesn't look like the characters she draws and that's ok, she doesn't draw her characters to pander to any real person, just a general niche type of person: pretty asian men and women in manhwa. It doesn't really mean anything that she has the side profile she critiqued, as she was talking about anatomy in art based on humans, not how possible human anatomy is wrong (even though the original drawing was anatomically incorrect for a human regardless of race/ethnic features). Though, it does go to show it isn't exclusive to black people at all so I think people are just scared that black people are being called gorillas without thinking that maybe it wasn't a targeted thing. Sorry if it seems I gave you two cents when you only gave me one, I just thought this would be food for thought.
If people keep reacting like that to people drawing black people, no one's gonna want to draw them. Too much risk. Why the fuck would you ever draw them if you get skewered no matter what you do?
@bloodyidit4506 are you being obtuse? Kooleen had plainly said that anybody drawn passed the triangle is "gorilla looking" when that is a feature commonly seen on black people. There are TONS of artists who draw black people and are completely able to not get in trouble, because frankly it is incredibly easy to not insult features while drawing. Do I think she is racist? I don't believe so, but she still did racist actions and that's not ok.
it's good that some artists are starting to incorporate more various proportions into their art, because some use facial templates that make their characters all look the same, when human faces and bodies can be so diverse
I’ve definitely used this rule to draw characters before. Never really thought much of it, what landed Kooleen in trouble was 1) using the word gorilla 2) fixing someone else’s art depicting a black person 3) deleting her post instead of addressing the controversy. Though I think she’s actually addressed things now. In any case it was interesting to see you provide advice on other ways to draw new faces.
i dont think the 2nd point is inherently bad, but if you don't know how to draw black people and then "fix" it by taking prominate black features away, that's a problem
@@thomgizzizStumbled upon this video again a year later. I wasn't trying to make an argument I was just clarifying why people took issue with her not stating my own opinion on the matter.
The intro was so strong, I just had to watch. Thanks white man. 😤 No but in all seriousness, as a black woman who is a little late (I'm 28) on the "learning digital art train" this was a very fun and helpful video. Keep it up. ( ˶˙ᵕ˙˶ )
I actually wasn't gonna watch this video cause I was fatigued from hearing about the drama, but I am SO glad I clicked this one! While everyone was talking about the issue, Ethan is the first person I've seen to offer up a solution. Because tbh, that rule is something a LOT of beginner artists are taught and do follow, and, to my limited knowledge, there wasn't a nice easy shorthand for drawing ethnic features in the same way. I am so glad we have this now! Big thank you to all the artists who figured it out, and to Ethan for spreading the word
@@nina-uu5enI don't think they are justifying lol, I think we should start calling that standard ish anime face "cat looking mf" instead as an insult. I never understood why cats tho, puppies are better s/
Being hilarious but super mature about the situation at the same time. Using it as a teaching moment (super helpful one at that) instead of dragging people through the mud. Love it, LOVE YOU, SIR.🤌✨❤️
The bottom lip to the eyebrow angle is something I’ve never seen another artist mention. Ethan is something else entirely, always making his content entertaining as well as educational. It’s invisible to the eye, but he’s always wearing this 👑
It is because it isn't a thing he took a bunch of pictures and tried his best to find a rule but it isn't universal and that is why nobody talks about it. Also this new age art style doesn't look good, kind of looks like they ripped of gorlliaz
Yeah the original "rule" wasn't even a rule, but part of tips of making anime styled character. Specifically it was said as tip for drawing good looking (ikemen/ikejou) character, it's a good idea to have their side profile like that but it was never limited to it.
Ethan stated worked for productions which dictate designers abide by it, in which case it does become a rule. I think it is good to produce content which creates a dialogue about it so people can consider if it's actually crucial to the aesthetic of the animation, in which case, ok, or not and it was less consciously favored
@@iimmannii well, public productions wants to make money and get famous so it makes sense they would use certain art styles and standards that's usually well liked by people (though ofc not always the case). But generally, all these helping guidelines and art rules are still more of suggestions tips and tricks than a must. Even my previous comment was from a Japanese art book that my friend told me about long ago.
@@skye387 I disagree that the average western animation consumer is highly intentional regarding articulating reasoning behind which art styles and standards are aesthetic. The people making these decisions are the designers, and designers who work in animation are known to have a bad tendency to exploit popular stylistic choices. This is in part because the domination of certain art schools in the animation world (Caltech). You can see a very small but loud minority of animation consumers complain about this on Tumblr etc., but this does not represent most viewers. I believe that after the basic conceptual design of 'cute, round,' or 'sharp, gothic,' not much else is being absorbed by the consumer and, as such, we can challenge these limiting rules like the one which the video overviews.
@@iimmanniiexactly, this man is speaking of a technique that is gonna apply to these production level artists, encouraging them to utilize a very simple guideline change to be inclusive effortlessly. very very lovely to see and very simple to use across a team project
@@iimmanniiNone of you poser artists will ever make it in those kinds of professional industries like Disney, Pixar, Marvel, etc, so abiding by their rules is of no concern for you below than amateur artists.
this was really cool man i’m not even an artist but it was really engaging how everything was explained and the multiple demonstrations helped me see what was really going on-plus i feel like this is the slightest peek into the world of little techniques that artists and designers use to make their styles and just in general i love seeing ppl talk about what they’re passionate about
I know the other technique to never be racist. Just never acknowledge their existence or talk about them or speak to them. I solved the world's problems. This goes for any race including your own. Then again you could refer to their entire human race as donuts and never speak on a particular color of donut, treat every donut equal. Even the stupid donuts.
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The only way to stop a bad guy with a triangle is a good guy with a triangle.
Now that's a Marvel movie I'd watch!
Two guys with the same weapon, who will win?
I love/hate this
i giggled
i believe that's the plot of the zelda games
As a black person I really appreciate this. For some reason a lot of people are too afraid to learn the differences drawing black people, when really learning these differences actually just makes us more comfortable and together as a humanity.
Exactly this. Its a really neat tool. It won't apply to all black faces and it doesn't need to, because styles are different and real humans are different. It won't be all black people in art as even the samples display, this is predominantly people with pronounced upper lips instead of lower lips. But it is fascinating how much this works to immediately convey a sense of "hey that character immediately looks of African descent."
Mr popo is the perfect black character since his the literal black guy.
Edit: ya know, now I start to wonder is the blue mr popo can be considered white washing
Especially since learning about the variety of human forms from observation allows us to portray actual humans rather than racist caricatures.
The "antiracist" triangle is just the consequence of the shape of the upper jaw, which does go forward, regardless of race (but does tend to be more forward among black people). The anime profile very often seemed off to me because there is this excessively receding lower face.
It's super useful. I used to just draw POC characters how I draw white ones but colour swapped, but now I'm learning how to better visually represent different groups
And talking about it actually helps more than just keep quiet
There's this Japanese UA-camr, Shogo, and he once explained that masks were accepted more readily in Japan, because people communicate more with their eyes in Japan (he may have said in east Asia, I don't remember all details). And that made me think that anime eyes were so big, because they were the most important thing in the face to convey the emotions of a character. And the rest of the face is like built around them.
Shogo is pretty great.
@@unripetheberrby6283 Isn't he? Such a wholesome guy 😌
@@lupine9514Yeah, that's what our guy Ethan also talked about. I just wanted to add my own two cents x)
@@julyol119I am sorry I didn't watch the video when i was reading your comment :'D when i saw the part i was about to delete my message, very sorry!
@@lupine9514 No no, don't be! It would have been really cool information, if it wasn't in the video. Never feel bad about sharing cool stuff :)))
Ok... I'm an artist from Poland and NEVER in my entire life heard about this weird triangle with nose and chin. All my art teachers was saying that we have to learn to draw from nature, from real people. And only if we are very good at realistic proportions of human being we can draw in some kind of style.
Cause he's making dumb shit up lol
@@RogerCharlamangethe triangle is absolutely a thing thats taught, but it's mainly taught in internet art circles, how to draw Anime/manga books, and kids who are copying animation to learn to draw
This shit is only for losers that base their entire style on anime and manga.
It comes from Anime apparently. Here in America I’d assume there are a lot more terminally online art teachers than there are in Poland.
@@RogerCharlamangethe triangle thing is very much a thing in online internet circles. alot of ppl praise really weird and questionable guidelines and ‘correct’ art to match the guidelines even if it looked fine before,,
Racism is over you’re welcome. that was too easy🦅🇺🇸🦅
world peace is now restored
@@mawcha One day triangles will save the world
Great Job Sir. Now let's talk about the worldhunger square 👍👍
bring back the nascar jacket
@@xenolinkytblet's hope it isn't the big one with the eye
“This cat is racist as hell” is probably the best line I’ve heard in a while 😂😂
The accent just made it perfection
Absolutely LMAO
4:16
@@sanriobraincellI love people who go on comments that quote the video and reply with the timestamp thank you for your service
Lovecraft's cat:
When I was young my art class consisted of the my entire black history club for some reason. I drew a black character and one of the members said... "You don't know how to draw black people do you?" I thought, "I'm black I can draw black people however I want." not realizing what he was talking about... this video is what he was talking about. I'm currently an art director for a small project working with character design, but I was always a strict art rule follower so realizing that I could have just broken the triangle rule is liberating. It's crazy how long I've been trying to follow this rule despite my own face not following it and not realizing it was ruining my art.
Made me smile
Fly my beautiful butterfly and make art good
That's such a beautiful story and if it were fiction I'd say it's a story of discovering self love
Same story. I remember going to my church's summer camp, doing art, people being impressed by the skills but curious why no one looked "Black." I took it as a slight at the time but it was an honest take from non-artists who wondered why this kid wasn't drawing people that looked like him or anyone in the community
I think it's fine to generally go for more "catlike" anatomy with black characters as long as it's your own personal preference and not a dumbass "rule" (which in your case it wasn't) - Atsushi Okubo (featured on the left side of Ethan's anime examples) does the usual anime stylization when drawing black characters, with some variance in hair & lips, but black people tend to love those characters - and I think there's a visually noticeable difference between having a personal preference, a style that's clearly purposeful, and ignoring general ethnic traits because of white-centric art rules.
Genuine question: Why didn't you just use references? Isn't that a golden rule?
the way he started this vid was CRAZY
We solved racism with one extra triangle. We did it boys and girls
no more rasicm
Lmao
We artists doing some weird things😂😂
Racism is over
You just put the Ceo of the n-word pass out of business
it's funny that i already don't use the triangle rule, but what i actually did learn from this video was to make 2 separate circles for the skull, even tho he doesn't aknowledge that for the whole video
Same lmao
@@clydesdale1775 Me too. Hadn’t even thought about it until I saw him do it and suddenly my mind was blown
i deadass was like “that’s so clever wtf
That's because he did a separated vid for it! And I really appreciate how he constantly repeats his lessons in almost every video he makes. That's a great teacher quality right there.
sameeee
My professor always told me “you should learn the rules of anatomy before you can break them.”it’s helped me a lot.
my art professor said that as well; “i want you to know the human anatomy down to the skeleton before you make it your own”
I heard that Vincent Van Gogh said basically "Now that I've learned how to draw things correctly, why should anyone get to tell me I can't draw them however I want?" Which, I'd never be able to find the quote again, but I like the principle.
In my way of thinking, the path of art goes through basic stages. First, you doodle -- no knowledge of the rules or any sense of structure, just establishing some basic skills. Then you're an amateur, with no rules but you're actively trying to achieve something with your art, even if you have no idea how to do it. Neither of these are bad, by the way: If you're going to get anywhere with your art, you need to pass through these stages first, and if you decide to never go any further, so what? If you're enjoying the art form, just keep on enjoying it. No one gets to say that you "should" (let alone "must") work your way up to a higher level.
(Just like people who are enjoying Rock Band or Guitar Hero don't need to work on learning a "real" instrument, and people who are writing hobbyist fanfiction don't need to switch to "real" writing, and those who enjoy singing in the shower don't need to go sign up for voice lessons just because they like to sing. There's pleasure and benefit to be had at all levels, and sometimes the beginners have an unusual style that the masters can't even mimic.)
Anyway, then you learn a few rules, and move into basically the sophomore stage: You know a lot of rules, but at this point you're convinced that the rules are Rules -- that if you're a Good Artist you must collect and follow All the Rules. Slavish devotion to "rules" without grasping the underlying principles of why those "rules" exist.
Then, eventually, if you keep going, keep improving, you get to the stage beyond sophomore... maybe a junior, if we follow that terminology. Or an Apprentice. At this point, you've learned to see beyond the rules, at least a little bit. You've learned that rules are good, but that there are times when you bend them, or break them, or throw them out altogether because they're not applicable to the project you're working on. But you still see the rules as *basically* rules.
When you move up to senior/craftsman level, you've got a good grasp of the role of "rules" -- how they got developed and why, and their place in the grand scheme of things. You know that you don't have to abide by them, you know how to break them for effect, how to choose which rules to follow and when, etc.
Finally, at the Master Craftsman level, you no longer think about them in terms of rules; there's no need for you to specifically apply any structure, because you're skilled enough that you've internalized whichever underlying principles the rules taught you, and can create art naturally, no more conscious of the "rule" part of the process than I am of the way I'm moving my fingers to type on these keys (at least, until I made my brain pay attention to them again).
So the basic progression I've noticed is that you start out unaware of the rules, then you learn them, then you *overapply* them, then you realize they're "more like guidelines," then you determine where and how to make use of them, and then, having learned all that the rules have to teach you, you move beyond them using some or all of the underlying principles that people pass along as "rules."
@@eti313 So you can create an intentional exception on purpose.
@@DoveJSBut you could also just intentionally do whatever you want anyway
@DeathnoteBB for example: medieval bestiary if you don't know how an animal looks.
Yeah... but I think the fact that she called the "wrong" version "gorilla proportions".... it really shows that it wasn't an innocent mistake on her part.
Right
it was just a poor choice of words, i think y'all need to learn to give people benefit of the doubt. also it did look like a gorilla in all fairness, and not because the character has black features or is black, but because the jaw was literally gigantic and protruding
@@diorsse still racist af, even if not intentionally
Actually, look at our primate cousin and you'll see their chin protrude forward while humans show receding chins which in the world of humans tends to be appealing versus protruding chins or eyebrows in general
@@HERTZZBR You might need help, racism is quite literally intentional. Calling an innocent mistake or thought racist when there was no ill is exactly the kind of bullshit that makes people into actual racists.
i expected this to go differently
instead he exposed racist cats and taught an art lesson💀
Lmao
"This cat is racist as hell" had me dead
Thats ethan to you!!
racist cats
like Lovecraft's cat?
@@babynyxe4784you mean heck lol
Ethan making himself chuckle with his words will never not be funny to me. His smile is the light in the darkness that is art drama
Yess! It always makes me smile too :)
Here are some of those moments for the both of us:
0:30 2:25 3:13 6:01
Honorable mention: 15:28
Art drama can easily be avoided. Since the biggest drama is my own art being awful and ruining my mental health everyday. Not getting better and drawing the way you want after 4 years of only practice and learning . I learned nothing and lost my creativity
Thanks for the timestamps
@@sael5084 You sound like every artist in this generation, and like most of them you draw good stuff so it comes out like pity begging.
Love yourself and love your work
@DemsW thanks but not really I don't enjoy drawing at all. I can't draw the way I want. I can't draw what I imagine at all. Even with reference I can hardly do something recognizable. I lost my creative touch I had when first starting art. I wasted 4 years and can't draw freely like others do. I have high ambition but limited by bad art skills. I can't love what I sincerely dislike. Others pitying Me won't help. I would appreciate criticism though and pointing out my flaws
THANK YOU FOR THE ANTI RACIST TRIANGLE IT HELPED
Fr!
yes frr
It’s more racist lmao. The triangle he came up is basically “how to draw a racial stereotype side profile” lol
Edit: the people in the replies are so factually wrong and racist that’s it’s almost comical. Am I watching a comedy skit? Yes, big lips exist. And? Monobrows exist, doesn’t mean every fucking Mexican has one. Or that it’s more accurate to draw a Mexican with a monobrow because some Mexicans might have a monobrow. You realise that is literally a support of racist stereotypes right? “Racist stereotypes came from real traits some black people might have had so therefore the stereotype is accurate” my god. You know how absolutely fucked that logic is right. I can twist that around and say calling black people a race of thieves is not racist because some black people stole things so attributing the stereotype to them is totally fine because the stereotype must have came from somewhere. It’s a completely racist argument which is being used to unironically justify racist ideals.
And yeah, some black people have big lips. AND? Big lips don’t push your face out like that. Never will. And I’ve never seen a black person in my life with a face that exaggerated.
And Afro’s haven’t been a racial stereotype since the 1960’s. So no idea why you brought that up.
According to anthropologist, all human races are 99.9% genetically identical. Why are physiologically the same species. Wanna know why? Because there is no such thing as race. It’s a made up myth. Human is a species, homo sapien is a race. All humans alive today are Homo sapiens. We are the last human species alive on the planet. So Saying that “black people have different physiology” so that’s why I’m wrong is LITERALLY what the nazi’s were trying to prove with eugenics. You people are racist. You are basically saying black people are a different species. Yeah no, they share the same skeletal structure of every other human race on the planet and all your attempts to say black people have fat lips and big noses is just racist. Some do, but you’ll see more without them if you bothered to pay attention to your “fellow man” more. To quote whoever said that.
@@zzodysseuszzit's true
Big ass lips do exist
@@zzodysseuszz No. Many black people just have different facial structures from white people, and other black people. That stereotype was made to mock their facial differences, not to gaslight everyone into believing the difference exists in the first place. The difference DOES exist. It still exists, and not drawing it makes alot of black characters not look black. Of course, as demonstrated in the video, not every person or character has those facial features so it's not always necessary, but people shouldn't be afraid to make black characters look black just because those features were mocked in the past.
just don't make some shit like mr popo lmfao it's not that hard
"i love to hate. i have so much hatred inside of me that im like aaaaa what do i do with this?" i felt that to the bottom of my heart
Too funny
"Do I think the artist who corrected this is racist? No, I think the triangle is racist"
bro is 4 parallel universes ahead of us💀
honestly the solution to most disputes. "your racist words don't exactly make you a racist, they are the result of you being taught racist things. it's how you move forward with this new information that determines who you are"
@@AJ-em2rbAnd still, sadly, people would willingly go on protecting white nationalism.
@@manashieldmediaYeah, black nationalism is terrible as well. Trying to group ourselves against the "other" is the problem. #AllLivesMatter
@@revelmonger All Lives Matter is a reactionary dog-whistle for white nationalism. You aren't fooling anyone. You're either painfully stupid or too scared to be an open racist. Everyone knows all lives matter. So why do darker-skinned people get disproportionately targeted by the law? Who does redlining usually effect? Sad, sad little person.
@@revelmongerwhat exactly do you mean by black nationalism
Teacher: “you need an attention-grabbing opener for your essay”
Ethan Becker: “0:00”
I'm getting flashbacks from that one Cut video😭
I subbed just because of the intro
@@starscream4812👀
HEELPP
Aye, I'm like number 1000
Props to you Ethan for turning this into a genuine constructive conversation and learning experience. We appreciate your presence in the community fr 🦅
omg it's samdoesarts lessgo
you draw the same art style allways in video
SAMMMM
I agree. Instead of worrying about whether kooleen should be accused or defended, we should be worrying about updating the flawed rule itself. It's interesting cause philosophers did the same process in their arguments, the process being called 'dialectics'. please look it up if you dont know 🙏💖💖
@@Jorothegoodest8375well no shit everyone has an art style?? 😭
I'm a Mexican guy with very brown features, and hell this is the best advice I ever heard from someone in the industry. guidelines just make things easier and more uniform, but if they're antiquated or the style doesn't hold it up, kick it to the curb! plus I'm also southern so maybe we're just artistically built DIFFERENT
even though what kooleen did mightve not been intentionally racist i dont think shes that great of a source to go to when trying to improve your art unless your trying to follow her artstyle. she seems to only draw one specific type of thing and barely try to go out her comfort zone and thus ends up misguiding her fans but that could just be me im not sure how to properly articulate my thoughts and feelings about it but yeah
I watch her for the commentary not for the tutorials, it wouldn't be a good idea learning like that, you only learn one thing and become complacent
no you worded it well
Thank you for having such a great viewpoint lol
This was just my thought as well
Yeah. She seems very limited and her art tips aren’t universal at all.
I'd like to mention I'm black and I've used this thing because I thought it was supposed to be used for every race I didn't notice the difference in facial structure from a white person and a black person 😅
edit: What have i done
I'm white, and i also never noticed the differences, i started to learn more about other features of races because i want to become a comic artist
@@monsterking7676the reason why people mostly think of black people with that tutorial is that she says that lips never go further beyond noses, "no matter how big and juicy those lips are". Lips that go beyond nose tips is mostly common among black people. She also said "wtf gorilla lookin mf" next to the "wrong" one so it reminded people of phrenology
Yeah, I always thought that the triangle was to determine how far the nose, lips, and chin are going to be from the actual face.
I’ve always used slanted for anime style and vertical for realism
@@wetbaklavabut it is such a lame excuse for hating because she says those things about everyone or every drawing
A mindless dumb comment shouldn’t be taken as an excuse to cancel someone lol
as a black guy whos 36 and has been drawing on and off and frustrated up until recently as in the past decade i deeply appreciate you breaking this down enough that i could pick this up. drawing someone that looked black for the longest was quite difficult since all of my references were anime faces from the late 90s and early 2000s internet
My style is semi realistic mixed with anime, any racial diversity was so difficult ! According the the drawing tutorials my proportions where wrong, so my drawings never looked right, I’m so glad we’ve reached a new age, finally I can get educated on diverse proportions
My issue is my references were either me or my siblings so all I can draw are black girls. I struggle drawing white people
@imontosomething2609 its easy. Just make us look less cool than the black characters.
@@letsrock12345 ayo?
Just get two cats, one black and one white. Hell throw in an orange one. That should help
It's hilarious that kooleen is mainly known for the racist triangle online
Lmao yes that triangle thing only made her more famous and get more views
Serves her right imo. Her trademarks atp are : boring same face syndrome and racist triangle girly
@@rrroxlanabut for the wrong reasons
Ethan threw himself into the drama i love it
Edit: she didn’t just “make a mistake” she called black features gorilla looking, Ethan I’m a big fan but she still did say some racist things
He was just in a silly goofy mood 🤷
😂
Twitter was acting crazy when they thought he was siding with Kooleen
same
Yeah I was worried he was gonna miss our point because he's usually really good with these things 😭
I discovered this when I was drawing my brother's face (we're black) and his lips protrudes through the guide line. So you can make your own rules by studying from life, that's how the masters do it.
THATS RACISMS AND A HATE CRIME
yes it's called bimaxillary protrusion and it's a very common trait in SE asians descent and african descent.
I'm not even black and i have a tiny nose basically and a soft chin so the triangle wouldn't work for me not because I have big lips or bimaxillary protrusion, but simply because my other traits sit that way compared to my pretty average lips. This is the first time I've heard about this triangle and it's weird to me that it's used so much. I guess that's why so many anime oc look the exact same, that's literally half of their face
"The triangle is racist" is probably a statement that can transcend various contexts, and it's something that only Ethan can absent mindedly come up with while still making sense 😭😭😭 this is what wisdom looks like
me, going on a rant about how the illuminati is an antisemitic conspiracy
Anything is racist has long as humans exist
@@sael5084 That is racist to humans sir.
@@Ender__Wa aliens are racist too for not coming here
@@Ender__Wa I wish I could live in a time where evolved Twitter can cancel a future actual alien
"This cat is racist as hell."
Pardon me while I clean the coffee I spat all over my monitor.
spitting your drink is a very english thing to do
0:01 dawg that escalated quickly 🧍🏿♀️
🤣
Ye
As someone who wants to draw more black characters, this was very educational!
Edit: For the record, I don’t think this is like the bible for drawing black people, but I def think it’s a nice starting point for beginners like me. He also mentioned a few black artists that I started following, that have a plethora of variations on how to draw a black person’s face
if you wanna learn to draw black characters, find black art tutorials by black people. you’ll get better tips and tricks that way
edit: y’all are taking this so seriously… ask who you want about whatever you want. i’m just saying if you want some expertise on how to draw and stylise a certain race, try finding artists of that race- just like ethan suggested. if you don’t want to then don’t 💀
@@cryingwatercoloursThanks I won't go to black artist to draw other races than black.
@@cryingwatercoloursagree
@@cryingwatercoloursyou don't have to be black to teach how to draw black people properly tho💀
@@iamaboy163 sinix is good
I'm just imagining me drawing a face and mumbling "boom racist triangle" under my breath while I'm doing the guide lines-
and then your classmate goes "Sorry what?"
@@inazonitobe737 I did it in real life and accidentally got a laugh out of the whole class-
I now refer to parts of the human face as "the tink" and I don't even know if I'm doing it right.
@@FTZPLTC
Right
Wrong
Tink ✅
💀 this comment killed me
Thats one fucking way to start a video
When I read the title the first thing that came to mind was the Bermuda Triangle. Like there was a part of the ocean where everyone who wanders into it becomes lost but only if you're Hispanic.
"But only if you're hispanic" 💀💀💀💀 that feels both accurate but like such an inaccurate statement at the same time
My greatest childhood fear (I'm not Hispanic)
My greatest fear (I'm Hispanic)
the Bermuda triangle is racist 💀
I feel like I am lacking vital context. Hispanic...... ?
It's easy to say that "one rule fits all" is a thoughtless assumption, but not many go out of their way to actually make new rules and guidelines like Ethan does👍
There's a misconception to understanding what the rules are actually there for. They're meant to guide not to restrict.
From an artist perspective, thanks for reminding people that rules are meant to be bent and broken. Understand them and know their utility but also move beyond them so that you aren't limited by them. Art is supposed to be unlimited creativity.
Your thumbnails and introd always give me a heartattack. I forget you're in character every time!
Ikr I wanted to show my gf this bc I keep giggling at it but I'm afraid if this is her first video of his she's gonna get the wrong idea lmao
I honestly LOVE the style of the “anti-racist triangle” even on non-black characters. Characters with a forward mouth, even if they don’t have big lips, it makes them look… plump? Probably the wrong word but it really lends to circular shaped designs and just adds a super nice pop
I agree!! It make them look sweet and approachable, and even a bit childlike! It kinda reminds me of some ghibli characters!
@@quite_contrary_9956 YES ITS VERY GHIBLI YOURE RIGHT
As a white person with this face shape this is really reassuring 😭 I can't even imagine what POC have to deal with when so many of their natural features are seen as ugly or incorrect when they're NORMAL and cute!
Nah i totally get what you mean, it looks adorable
@@zoesilver5828 totally natural and cute features!! i wish i had that face shape frfr
I always wondered why that "rule" never worked for me. Why the people I drew didn't really look like me so I would push the rule but still couldn't quite get it to work. This is incredibly helpful!
Ethan feels like the art community dad that settles all drama
Cuz he is
More of a drunken uncle
he's like the camp counselor that really doesn't want to be here but has to settle the conflict anyway
"back of the skull, pay the troll toll" is my new favourite art tip
This isn't poking a wasp nest, you are downright teabagging the hive and I salute you for your sense of humor. Take my like and shine on, you crazy diamond.
There are no hard and fast rules with drawing anything organic really. Just different shape designs and proportions. My professor used to make us do mass quick studies of different faces, and I realised that there is no one way to draw facial features or structure. It all depends on the character and shape design you are trying to create. Knowing how to draw different variations just adds to your arsenal.
Guess everyone online that does art advice is supposed to be expected to have a college degree in the arts or they shouldn't be allowed to make tutorials?
@@breewashere Are you implying the person you're replying to is saying that? Because they absolutely did not say that. In fact I more got the idea that you should get tips from different kinds of people as it allows for a better understanding than getting it from just one UA-cam artist.
Yeah. Loomis heads and whatever other techniques really are just placeholders for perspective + proportions. The important details will 100% depend on the subject.
@@breewashere uhhh are u ok?
@@TheVillainousSoul yeah! I think I’m just echoing what ethan kind of implied in the video. You can use the racist triangle. You can use anti-racist triangle. But the point really is to collect as many "triangles" as you can cause the human form is incredibly diverse and nuanced.
Isosceles, acute, obtuse, now racist. The triangle is like the turkey of the shape realm.
180 degrees of pure bigotry
@@preddyshite6342 bahahaha
Obtuse, rubber goose, green moose, guava juice, giant snake, birthday cake, large fries, CHOCOLATE SHAKE!!!
long ago, the four nations lived in harmony. then, everything changed when the racist nation attacked
As a competitive racist, it's nice when people give me all this new tech for free.
3:03 THE PAUSE😭
The person who made that initial tutorial had written “wtf gorilla lookin mf” next to the “wrong” one, and while fixing the portrait of the black woman she had made the lips and the nose smaller too (in an attempt to give critique). It seems like a mistake due to ignorance but what she did in response to all of this was to ignore this issue for two weeks although she was aware of it, while producing 4 different unrelated videos. That is what made people think that she truly was racist.
Yes, as a content creator you certainly can make a mistake but ignoring it when you have such a huge platform and influence and then writing a very vague, defensive and misleading apology is not it.
Let this be a lesson for all content creators. Don’t ignore your mistakes. Own them and fix them.
yeah and her response 50 years later was like its offensive humor but also she didnt know it was offensive ¿?
Honestly I was on the whole she was probably just ignorant and wasn't actually trying to bash the race but the drawing, and from her "apology" she did say exactly that. But I do agree that it looked bad for her to not only take a hot minute to even say anything about it, but to also post "normal" videos in between? Like gurl..
@@arantzap yeapp and everyone thought that we were mad simply bc she made art roast vids with consent and we didn't get her humor. It was deliberately misleading. She also said that people who were still mad at her were "irrelevant"... The ones who accepted her "apology" were all mostly white kids who couldn't unferstand the gravity of the situation 😭
@@stephenlee1108 Exactlyyyy initially I said the same thing and just expected from her to take accountability, properly apologize and fix her content. She pretty much ignored it and that was when I lost all the respect that I had towards her. The apology felt like "ugh ok fine you won't shut up about it there ya yo I apologized"
And then she proceeded to totally misunderstand why people were mad in the first place
Edit: and her white fans accepted the apology that wasn’t even made for them
Love ethans ability to be the most unserious-serious artist out there. Perfectly balanced
4:16 - "This cat is racist as hell!" That made my day! OMG😂
To be fair, cats are very racist.
same
@@zooble_. W pfp 😅
These are soooooo cute!! I'm definitely going to be experimenting with my own style when I get the time ❤
Even if Kooleen wasn't being intentionally racist, it can be incredibly hurtful for someone to call your features gorilla-looking. So I 100% understand why people got upset. That being said, I think she has suffered enough backlash now.
This is my take on it as well. I wouldn’t appreciate features commonly prevalent in my race being called gorilla looking (also when you account how that word is negatively used to describe with black features, too), and I also believe she was being so … so ignorant. Of course people are going to get upset. She’s made some other - at best, ignorant remarks - and at worst, overtly racist ones (not knowing what fades were in a fan’s artwork & “correcting them” in her version). Even if ill intent was or wasn’t there, it leaves a bad taste in your mouth.
@@vanilla7994 yeah it seems like she's a pretty stupid person
My face don’t follow the racist triangle lol Now I understand why I didn’t like my side profile before
@@vanilla7994when does it become racist? Cause she was saying things that were popular durinf slavery time to dehumnnise black people?
That's like a man hearing something sexist and saying it's ignorant. It's dismissive af
@@lordtettelet me educate you it did happen during slavery time so they did called black people feature gorilla looking
If you're missing the point of what ethan is doing in this vid, he's basically teaching us to see events like this as an opportunity to talk things out in the community, wherever is a mistake, is an opportunity to learn, not to fight.
Amen.
People have sad lives man, they’re lonely, so they cling to any chance to get attention whether it’s positive or negative. Cancelling people for stupid bs all the time
I mean. You'll still get called a racist for drawing anatomically correct characters. People like outrage more than they like accuracy.
@@Rain-nm1ee an artist with a very large online following telling her fans that their art is bad and inaccurate because it doesn't adhere to the strict guidelines that she personally abides by is a topic that many in the art community are interested in. If you're not, move on. But it's guaranteed there's something that you care about that most people don't give a shit about.
@@user-jb1mb5xh9tArt should be realistic in terms of adhering to racial traits. There is no racist triangle, people just want to be white. That's how our society is engineered.
As someone who has never even remotely dabbled in art or animation of any kind...this video was incredibly hilarious to stumble upon while high.
Similar situation here, I understood nothing other than "triangles are racist"
same here, hello travellers
Aamen
Same. I have no fucking clue what he's talking about.
im both an artist AND high and its hilarious to me too.
basically hes giving a solution to a problem where some artists will draw black characters with the proportions of white characters, when most black people dont have the same facial proportions as white people. hes using guidelines to show how to tweak the proportions of a character's face to make them actually look black. and hes being really casual funny about it to boot
I can honestly say I have never used this rule. This rule sounds like a rule for people who didn't learn to draw by observing from life.
Honestly I wish people would observe real life instead of trying to jump straight to trying to learn to draw by tracing anime characters. I have friends whose art skills haven't progressed in 20 years or more because they learned from copying manga stuff and never started out with observing the actual world, so they don't know what they don't know.
I would probably input that this formatted state is based on a specific medium, simplified art for animation or production art when their is a deadline. Draw fast so a few rules need to be used to keep the art consistent and reproducible. This also serves as a guide for those just starting. In reality, people are all kinds of shapes, sizes, and forms and art is meant to be explored. Certain to develop your own style you observe reality, but art isn't all based on reality. He's just showing a general pattern that can be deduced and used in art, and definitely a nice reference to learn from 😊
Because it is.
This is why realism is important for any kind of artist. When I learned realism it instilled in me the importantance of different features and learning as much as you can about the body bc so you can do anatomy regardless of style. They teach you this in animation as well so that you can copy any style for diff projects and produce consistent images. And so you can have variety in character design. Same face syndrome is unfortunate. That's just the artist culture I was exposed to growing up
Agreed! Way more variety in realism!
this is very true. i do a lot of low resolution pixel art for a game i'm making and even though a face can be like 5 pixels tall you HAVE to think about the underlying features and shapes or it just won't look good. i've drawn a whole realistic sketch just to decide if i wanna remove ONE pixel from a character's chin or not, almost like that spongebob clip of him drawing a whole face just to draw a circle.
@@albingrahn5576 i do pixel art too and i 100% confirm that starting with concept art and simplifying it later makes a HUGE difference!
Zoomer poser artists would much rather cry and comfort each other about their lack of skills on Twitter than learning the fundamentals like anatomy properly.
I would say that it is the fundamentals, the real is your reference, the realism a style.
I was low key hoping you’d do a video on this, since you’ve mentioned her before
He didn't mention kooleeen, unfortunately 😢
he actually did a whole video roasting kooleen before this video lmao
@@maxlovesbeanswasn’t that a joke going on between them(kinda like the one with koleen and Sam does art)
wait whats happening? why is a triangle racist?
@@ejsafara456Ethan gives all the context really
A lot of current art comes from japanese tradition, which teaches that the lips shouldn’t go past the nose and chin.
Is not racist, is just a way to visualize things.
But people on the internet love criticizing others to feel better at themselves so they instantly called Kooleen racist for telling someone to follow that rule.
She added “gorilla looking mf”, but like, she says that kind of things about LITERALLY EVERY DRAWING EVER.
I didn’t understand any of this video and I don’t know why it was recommended because I’ve never watched art content on YT. 10/10 would watch again.
The way you talk always calms me down and makes me laugh while I learn stuff, you help me a lot to not be too uptight/stonefaced about my art :) you're the cool art uncle to me
I think people just need to realize that there are multiple ways of drawing faces. I primarily draw African features and follow the single triangle rule because that's just what I'm used to and my characters still look like they're black, I didn't even know this was a topic of debate.
I did the same but most of the time I don’t often use the triangle method
people's issues are more on the "gorilla lookin mf" rather than kooleen drawing the same face shape
ive seen most say that she can draw whatever she wants to and it would have been fine, but the problem lies with the fact that she deliberately went ahead to call that face shape "wrong"
Honestly, a character can have what ever face you want them to have, its only racism if you decide that every black person has to have this extruded lip, or every asian person has to have buck teeth or every white person has a longer neck.
These traits don’t exist across entire populations, some do such as eye shape and skin tones, but secondary facial features dont.
@@RusticRonniefacts. East African people like Somalis and Ethiopian most of the time have sharp noses and not a typical flat African nose. Some Asian also have sharp noses too
@@aspenmp4222 I just struggle drawing side profiles. And instead of actually taking the time to practice, I opted to never draw side profiles and struggle with how weird it looks.
2:26 “i love to hate everybody. it’s like i got so much hatred in me it’s like- AAAH it’s like what do i do with this, you know?” **holding a fluffy pen**
Speak on it Ethan, I grew up drawing Black and White characters as great as can be "equally" but I cant lie I subbed a year ago because you made black characters look Amazing and not to over the top in facial features but still true to the Look, DBZ is wrong for that Mr. POPO. lol
Idk wtf they were thinking with that design.
@@breewashere During ww2 and after, foreign countries brought racist caricatures of black people to japan, the reason that this is barely corrected in modern day japan is because japan has horrible english education, and in general has one of the lowest english literacy rates in asia, and since most japanese people have never seen a black person in their life (Japan has many strict rules against immigration), and even with acess to social media, most social medias used by japanese people do not interfere with the western social media such as nico nico video, LINE, pixiv, even in this day and age many japanese are not very aware of the outside world. Particularly older generations would not know the history or negative connotation the caricatures have and just assume it's some cartoony style thing.
Also Mr. Popo isn't really a black man, he's just an alien thing.
DB was wrong for Staff Officer Black
💀 It was... truly a time. Caricatures really creep into anything and anywhere.
yet mr. popo is an iconic character despite you saying toriyama is wrong for his design
Im pale as a sheet and the racist triangle doesnt fit me because my chin juts out real far. I think people just need to realize that people arent a monolith and you cant expect everyone to draw the same as you or hope to draw the same as you. If we arent loose with art we lose the passion and meaning behind it
0:10 You can just tell he was about laugh
i love how people like to pretend that this is only for black characters. im not black and i have that nose and lips and overall face structure lol
Literally, all people have to do is go outside and look at other people. Idk why people were ever following this rule in the first place.
Exactly and I'm black and I got the first one
I come from Mexican and Native American ancestors and I have something more similar to the second facial structure. Kind of upsetting that people are saying that ONLY black people have it, as I’ve seen white people with it and black people without. Not to mention all the other races and ethnicities.
@@Z_ayyyou're talking to twitter zoomers users
Aka the people who were contained on Tumblr and broke containment and ruined a generation of kids
@@Z_ayyYe, i try to just ignore those kind of people. Just got to Remember that the people thinking everything is about race, and something being exclusive to certain of them, are just people that never go outside their room, lol. Way better to think that we all share the human experience😂
He's gonna get away with it by being cute again
The mobs are harsh, but he stays silly!
cute with his disney looking eyes!
goofy his way out of the drama
@@ki2348How else does one get out of drama amirite?
I bet he has more fanboys than fangirls 👀
The hurry past Mr. Popo 🤣 Yeah, he's not so great to look at with adult eyes. There's no fixing that. I've heard he was supposed to be based on Mahakala but I'm getting minstrel actor in a genie outfit.
As a human with a nose, chin and lips, I appreciate this video. Thanks Ethan for spreading awareness. Cats are cute, but not when they take over human features and dominate the world with triangles. 😂❤
Holy shit, the Illuminati's are cats.
It's bizarre because like, it's not even only black people that can have that facial structure. It's much more common, but it's not exclusively black people. So the idea that its wrong is even more absurd because anyone can have that facial structure.
Half my very Irish uncles have it, it's not that rare a facial build!
It's prevalent in blacks
@@couldntbeproved1392in...blacks...?
@@rmslefttoe9024 yeah, and?
Guarantee you don't know and haven't seen many "Blacks" because nobody in my very African family has that profile. @@couldntbeproved1392
Just... y'all. Please take your time to learn the basics as well as what was address in this video: learn from DIFFERENT, multiple artists. There will always be some sort of short-cut way of drawing parts of human anatomy, but it's so so SO helpful to understand shapes, line, value, dimension, perspective, motion, etc. The whole stinkin' shabang. Learning the rules to break them is true to everything you do-Art or not. Really helps you avoid having very linear philosophy over your art knowledge and skillset.
been 5 months and this is still one of my favourite art videos.
edgy in the most wholesome and educational way.
Ethan Becker truly embodies "It's not racism if i make fun of everybody equally"
agreed
Never punch down… unless you brought enough cans of whoopass for the whole class.
How it should be
Ethan is a sub-par amateur artist, the talking parrot catering to zoomer artists wasting their time on Twitter in their echo chambers comforting each other in their lack of art skills. You people should stop watching Ethan and go look at established artists perfecting their craft instead of poser artists trying to monetize every avenue like UA-cam, selling brushes, terrible artbooks, etc.
cringe
This new triangle is very helpful. The original triangle doesn’t fit most faces. Many of my friends are hispanic and they all have different face shapes so this triangle kind of helps to do their shapes.
Also I hope people start drawing bigger noses more often because we always draw small noses but most people around me have big noses
Another one is the face shapes. Most of the anime characters has heartshape faces. Round face shape characters are always underrated.
This video actually helped me a lot when it comes to the process of drawing side profiles. I've always struggled with it but this really helped!
I need to try this lol-
This can also help to add some diversity to facial features
fr im gonna try this in the morning.
4:15 the cut to "THIS CAT IS RACIST AS HELL" *killed me*
The thing about this is that the former head shape isn't even exclusive to black characters or black people, funnily enough a lot of men across races have that feature, i found that to be the case with Southeast to East Asian men; the line doesn't consider outliers or nuances, it favors general facial aesthetics, facial features people are generally attracted to, and racial dimorphism actually can aid attractiveness if it doesn't show extremes, everything closer to averageness while teetering on some uniqueness, whether it be ALMOST exclusive European traits or ALMOST exclusive African traits (what people don't seem to understand is that there is no exclusivity across races because race is a social construct structured on vague bases); so it'll be interesting to see his take on this. Somehow I predicted this video, its likely point, and some variation of this title. Yes, I am bragging.
I believe someone pointed out that Kooleen has a similar side profile to the "gorilla" which makes it awful strange.
@@melancholygirl7793 i mean, one, gorillas notably have a protruding jaw from their nose, some humans naturally have that kinda feature since we originate from the same ancestor as other primates, though obviously more anatomically relevant to humans; two, it's less of awful strange, at least to me, and more of Kooleen doesn't draw her characters to look like her or as if she has a superior headshape, she knows she doesn't look like the characters she draws and that's ok, she doesn't draw her characters to pander to any real person, just a general niche type of person: pretty asian men and women in manhwa. It doesn't really mean anything that she has the side profile she critiqued, as she was talking about anatomy in art based on humans, not how possible human anatomy is wrong (even though the original drawing was anatomically incorrect for a human regardless of race/ethnic features). Though, it does go to show it isn't exclusive to black people at all so I think people are just scared that black people are being called gorillas without thinking that maybe it wasn't a targeted thing. Sorry if it seems I gave you two cents when you only gave me one, I just thought this would be food for thought.
If people keep reacting like that to people drawing black people, no one's gonna want to draw them.
Too much risk. Why the fuck would you ever draw them if you get skewered no matter what you do?
@@bloodyidit4506 Then don’t do insensitive things towards black people…
@bloodyidit4506 are you being obtuse? Kooleen had plainly said that anybody drawn passed the triangle is "gorilla looking" when that is a feature commonly seen on black people. There are TONS of artists who draw black people and are completely able to not get in trouble, because frankly it is incredibly easy to not insult features while drawing. Do I think she is racist? I don't believe so, but she still did racist actions and that's not ok.
it's good that some artists are starting to incorporate more various proportions into their art, because some use facial templates that make their characters all look the same, when human faces and bodies can be so diverse
I’ve definitely used this rule to draw characters before. Never really thought much of it, what landed Kooleen in trouble was 1) using the word gorilla 2) fixing someone else’s art depicting a black person 3) deleting her post instead of addressing the controversy. Though I think she’s actually addressed things now. In any case it was interesting to see you provide advice on other ways to draw new faces.
So a bunch of perceived offense. AKA people looking for stuff to complain about, AKA Karens. You aren't making a good argument here.
Zoomers have to accept that each race has facial traits unique or prevalent to their race and stop crying about it.
i dont think the 2nd point is inherently bad, but if you don't know how to draw black people and then "fix" it by taking prominate black features away, that's a problem
She also said that she never draws ugly people and then never draws anyone who is black. Awesome!!!
@@thomgizzizStumbled upon this video again a year later. I wasn't trying to make an argument I was just clarifying why people took issue with her not stating my own opinion on the matter.
9:17 I suddenly saw Homer Simpson’s luscious lips and I couldn’t unsee it, so I’m putting this here so it gets stuck in someone else’s mind too.
"This cat is racist as hell" got me way more than it has any right to
The intro was so strong, I just had to watch. Thanks white man. 😤
No but in all seriousness, as a black woman who is a little late (I'm 28) on the "learning digital art train" this was a very fun and helpful video. Keep it up. ( ˶˙ᵕ˙˶ )
It’s never too late to learn!!!
that opening line is crazy 😭😭
you better pray no one takes that out of context 💀
twitter already has
@@scremmy_drawsfr? 😭
@@scremmy_drawsit's not even twitter anymore 💀💀💀 it's literally, enough said there
'You're gonna be goin' to heck for eternal darnation... maybe."
Almost spit out my coffee
BLACK FACE OFF 💀💀 OH MY GOD I LOVE BEING BLACK THAT FUCKING KILLED ME 😂
I actually wasn't gonna watch this video cause I was fatigued from hearing about the drama, but I am SO glad I clicked this one! While everyone was talking about the issue, Ethan is the first person I've seen to offer up a solution. Because tbh, that rule is something a LOT of beginner artists are taught and do follow, and, to my limited knowledge, there wasn't a nice easy shorthand for drawing ethnic features in the same way. I am so glad we have this now! Big thank you to all the artists who figured it out, and to Ethan for spreading the word
I mean, the problem wasn't just the triangle, is calling everything outside of it a "gorilla looking mf"
I mean if one triangle is made to resemble cats...we could simply reverse the insult
Cat looking mf
@@toyaleejb7714no way you're justifying her insulting black features 😭
@@nina-uu5enI don't think they are justifying lol, I think we should start calling that standard ish anime face "cat looking mf" instead as an insult. I never understood why cats tho, puppies are better s/
i mean they have d8ffrent features right, like how is that wrong??@@nina-uu5en
that start was crazy 😂
Looks like kooleen needs to bring out a ukulele
STOP 💀
if she does she would achieve the ultimate controversy form
Toxic gossip train..
Toxic triangle train
heading down the tracks of misinformation 💀
kooleen's wig snatched
The art Community always delivers ☕
Kooleen's smegsy dragged
@@AdoboSoGuud Kooleen's lip thing wasn't even original tbh. She's just an Angel Ganev wannabe.
@@z_.5557 Ohh I love ANGEL Ganev. But hers looked so soggy 😨
Being hilarious but super mature about the situation at the same time. Using it as a teaching moment (super helpful one at that) instead of dragging people through the mud. Love it, LOVE YOU, SIR.🤌✨❤️
11:02 “that’s how that person is, that’s how” is a quote I will carry with me for a while
The bottom lip to the eyebrow angle is something I’ve never seen another artist mention. Ethan is something else entirely, always making his content entertaining as well as educational. It’s invisible to the eye, but he’s always wearing this 👑
It is because it isn't a thing he took a bunch of pictures and tried his best to find a rule but it isn't universal and that is why nobody talks about it. Also this new age art style doesn't look good, kind of looks like they ripped of gorlliaz
@@thomgizzizGorillaz type is sick though. I like the new aged look. Wow, look at that. Art is subjective.
Yeah the original "rule" wasn't even a rule, but part of tips of making anime styled character. Specifically it was said as tip for drawing good looking (ikemen/ikejou) character, it's a good idea to have their side profile like that but it was never limited to it.
Ethan stated worked for productions which dictate designers abide by it, in which case it does become a rule. I think it is good to produce content which creates a dialogue about it so people can consider if it's actually crucial to the aesthetic of the animation, in which case, ok, or not and it was less consciously favored
@@iimmannii well, public productions wants to make money and get famous so it makes sense they would use certain art styles and standards that's usually well liked by people (though ofc not always the case).
But generally, all these helping guidelines and art rules are still more of suggestions tips and tricks than a must.
Even my previous comment was from a Japanese art book that my friend told me about long ago.
@@skye387 I disagree that the average western animation consumer is highly intentional regarding articulating reasoning behind which art styles and standards are aesthetic.
The people making these decisions are the designers, and designers who work in animation are known to have a bad tendency to exploit popular stylistic choices. This is in part because the domination of certain art schools in the animation world (Caltech). You can see a very small but loud minority of animation consumers complain about this on Tumblr etc., but this does not represent most viewers.
I believe that after the basic conceptual design of 'cute, round,' or 'sharp, gothic,' not much else is being absorbed by the consumer and, as such, we can challenge these limiting rules like the one which the video overviews.
@@iimmanniiexactly, this man is speaking of a technique that is gonna apply to these production level artists, encouraging them to utilize a very simple guideline change to be inclusive effortlessly. very very lovely to see and very simple to use across a team project
@@iimmanniiNone of you poser artists will ever make it in those kinds of professional industries like Disney, Pixar, Marvel, etc, so abiding by their rules is of no concern for you below than amateur artists.
3:04 he must’ve been through Popo’s training
13th rule of Popo’s training: NEVER correct Popo
i was a bit worried where this would go at first with the title and intro, but this was genuinely a great video
What a way to say "I hate everyone" in cursive
this was really cool man i’m not even an artist but it was really engaging how everything was explained and the multiple demonstrations helped me see what was really going on-plus i feel like this is the slightest peek into the world of little techniques that artists and designers use to make their styles and just in general i love seeing ppl talk about what they’re passionate about
The main thing this video taught me was how versatile the word "dink" is 😂😂
Well this was refreshing to watch. I'm not an animator, just a black guy.
bro teached me litreally not only how to not be racist but also how to draw side profiles i always was struggling with. cool, sub.
I know the other technique to never be racist. Just never acknowledge their existence or talk about them or speak to them. I solved the world's problems. This goes for any race including your own. Then again you could refer to their entire human race as donuts and never speak on a particular color of donut, treat every donut equal. Even the stupid donuts.
Yes Ethan continue teaching the art community slayyy also I remember when he tried this "hack" on his trying art advice series
"This cat is racist as hell." That made me laugh out loud while my cat is sitting on my lap 😂 Great video, thank you!
I've never used the racist triangle