How to start a car that has been sitting for years Episode 151 Autorestomod
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- Опубліковано 4 лют 2014
- This week Jeff and Vinnie show you how to start a classic car that has been sitting for years. They discuss gas tanks, cranking procedures, and how to prime an oil pump in a classic car. They also show how to remove a distributor so that it is easy to put back in the car.
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As usual, spot on and sage advice on many overlooked things when getting a "sitter" "running again.
Using this to get the 428 in my '67 Thunderbird going again, much appreciated
Just bought a 73 corvette been sitting for YEARS gonna try to get her started up wish me luck
I hope it does well for you!
You may also come across an engine that has been stored ouside and you may have sludge issues. Unless you decide to strip it, you might want to pull the rocker gear and clean things up, which leaves the sump. Sticking a finger through the drain plug, will tell you if you have sludge sitting at the bottom. Using some tubing/funnel, you can poor some solvent into the sump direct, let it sit and drain. Yeah, you could remove the sump as well. Prior to fitting the rocker gear, its possible to squirt some oil onto the cam, so you know its not starting dry. The joys of old cars!, cheers Rob.
Good points bumming!
Great episode. Can't wait till you do the wheel cleaning episode. Got my eye on some 17 X 8 Cobra wheels and on another set of wheels. Both need some cleaning. Great stuff guys.
Never put solvents/detergents in an engine. It will clog up the oil passages. Also never use starting fluid, carb, break cleaner. Put a small amount of gas in carb it will do the same thing and won't cause problems.
Going to buy a 1974 Toyota Carina that was sitting a few years. Thanks for the infos!
Good stuff. Lots of useful info.
Excelente vídeo! Thank you guys for this excellent tips.
Our pleasure!
My chevy c30 has been sitting since 2014 hopefully it starts in the first couple of cranks.
When you shoot some carb cleaner or squirt a little gas into the carb, remember to stay clear of it when starting the engine because often it "coughs" or backfires straight up and will burn your face if you are too close. Try not to spill any outside the carb... If it does catch fire keep cranking it a little, so that the vacuum sucks the fire into the engine...
Great points!
@@AutoRestoMod great advice.One small point.. Not a good look leaning your fuel tank on a car .I do realize you probably put it on their gently however.Thanks for your great advice and video.
I didn't know Dr.Phil was a mechanic on the side as well.
Yup!
i have a bronco that has been sitting for 10 years or so.I am able to turn the crank over but before starting i was told to spray some fogging oil into it or marvel into the spark plug hole and then take your drill and counterclockwise turn the distributor till you see oil through out and then try to give her a start,thoughts jeff?
Sweet i have that same drill, good to know it can do this.
I’m thinking of buying a car that has say for over 15 years I’m wondering what seals I would have to worry about and if I should be worried about any electrical problems?
Will a new battery be temporary help for a failing fuel pump?
Can the NPD have parts for 85 grand marquis LS? Trying restore my seats. The leather is ripped up
You guys fell for the common myth of the "freeze plug". These plugs are not put into the block to provide freeze protection. True, the often pop out if the water in the block freezes but as anyone who has dealt with a frozen engine block knows, this does little to prevent the block from cracking. The "freeze plug" is more properly called a "core plug" and is simply there to plug holes in the casting left over from the supports for internal sand molds (water passages, etc.). The "freeze" refers to the process of the molten metal freezing back into solid, after which the plug is installed once machining is complete. The plug as frozen water protection is a legendary myth.
Vinnie fell for the freeze plug. And yeah Jeff met him make the crater! LOL
As long as it's not a sink hole full of Corvettes!
Except that while they may pop out in the event of a freeze, that is not their purpose as people commonly think. "Freeze" refers to the metal solidifying after casting.
martin tiffany Rather than asking the old man who was the foundry worker, it's better to ask the engineer who designed the casting. :-)
martin tiffany You're assuming I'm trying to troll or being hostile. I'm not. I'm just participating in a discussion. Since I work quite often with engineers who design castings, we often laugh about the old "freeze plug" myth so it's something I see great humor in. So in that sense, I do know what I'm talking about. Remember, the people running the foundries are typically "technicians" while the ones designing the castings are "engineers". There's a big difference between the two.
How to get a 2005 Malibu classic to start that has been sitting for 2 years. I put a brand new battery so it’s not that.
Does it spin over?
For small block Fords, I put a socket on a long 1/4" extension. For security, I run electrical tape on it so it doesn't fall off. Also remind everyone to spin the drill the direction of the distributor, or you're not pumping oil.
yep, we should have clarified that Wiz. Luckily you did!
Hey Vinnie, Whatsa freezeplug????
any suggestions on how to start a chrysler 300 2006 thats been sitting for 2 years in florida....i first want to bomb the car because i dont know whats been living in it for the last 2 years....the car was running fine before i parked it.....
What's up guys ! Love the show I just subscribe keep it up!
I'm catching up XD
my 1971 ford torino has been sitting for around 2-3 years in a garage, i was wondering if the seals in it would be okay still
Sometimes things will be fine. Usually if stuff goes south it will be the power valve, or the accelerator pump.
I have a 73 454 vette. Its a pain to cold start. Have to crank almost to dead battery to get started. Don’t believe its flooding. I start every other week. I will check the fuel pump to ensure its working. I have a question:
1. When pumping the gas, does it go straight into the intake or fill the carb bowls up or both? Im asking because i was wondering if i should pour gas directly in the carb or pouring to fill the bowl up? Any advice would help. Im bout ready to throw the Quad away and go holley fuel injection on it.
Cold start really needs a choke. If yours is not there then that may be part of the issue. The bowls on the carburetor need to be full in order for you to be able to to start the car (not completely full but mostly). When it is cold go out and don't start the car, but look at the top of the carb. open the throttle completely and see if the flap on the front bowls close. If they don't the choke is not set up. Then look down into the carb pull the throttle back and see if gas is squirting. If it isn't you have an issue of the fuel either leaking out or evaporating and that this what the problem is. Also, your plugs might be fouled. If you pull a plug and it is all black and either wet or sooty, you are running too rich.
@@AutoRestoMod thank you so much for taking the time to reply!🙏💪🏼. The bowl has fuel, it squirts. I am going to check the fuel pump, and the filter on the Rochester. I have never tuned the car up so I just ordered a tune up kit. I will keep you posted and love your Chanel.
I have a Big Block 427 chevy engine that was rebuilt in 1992 and never ran, do you recommend taking it apart and/or replacing any of the internals or just fill with fluids and try it out?
Try rotating it without plugs in the engine. If it rotates without any real grunting, you are good. If it is a little hard to turn, put Marvel Mystery oil down the bores and try in a couple of days. We'll be doing an episode on using the mobile phone bore scope to investigate engine bore issues in the next month or so.
I'm about to try starting a 1985 Corvette that sat in a garage since 2002. It's fuel injected. Any words of wisdom before I screw this up? Thanks!
I've got an 82 sitting since 98.. trying to figure out where to start myself
Did you ever get it started i have a caprice that been sitting for 2 years
this is what I call a comedy!
hello i have a 74 chevy truck that has been sitting for at least 3 years would you recommend me doing this to it also?
+Rockin Pip Depends on the fuel. We would definately start it on a can of fresh gas. Check the carb for leaks etc. then, depending on the amount of old fuel in the tank (1/4 tank or less) you might be able to add some gas to the existing fuel and get it to go fine.
there really wasnt any fuel in it just in the corner a bit of varnish like thick stuff but very little the tank looked good do you think i can just put some new fuel in it and give her a try and dont worry about putting any mystery oil into the cylinders?
We'd try hand cranking the engine first using a wrench on the center bolt of the crank shaft (spark plugs out). Then do a compression check, if all the cylinders check out, fire it. Check the carburetor. If it has a Holley the Accelerator pump diaphragm may be dried out as well as the power valve. Can't speak to Edelbrock carbs.
Would this process work on a car thats been sitting for 20 years? I have a old 1961 vauxhall victor f type that has been passed down to me for my first car and it has been parked in a garage for 20 years but was running perfectly before then. Any tips on first startup advice? I have purchased all new dizzy cap and points, battery etc but im a little scared to turn her over in case i cause any damage to the engine if it was seized etc, so any tips to see if it is suitable for running would be brilliant! Thanks in advance :)
+Darryl Williams Take all the plugs out and try to hand crank it with a wrench on the main crank bolt. If it won't turn over use some WD40 down the spark plug holes. Try it every few days, if you get lucky it will break free and turn. Replace the freeze plugs if so equipped. The will probably pop when pressure is applied.
AutoRestoMod Muscle Car Resto and Modifications Great advice! thank you so much i shall try this soon and will let you know how i go on :) thanks again
Great you can reach Jeff at: jford@autorestomod.com
would I go through same procedure in a Chevy Silverado 96
Biggest issue might be the injectors and the old fuel in them. We'd have the system flushed and make sure the injectors are cleaned.
Need some help. 1975 pontiac Catalina with a 400 bb. car sit for 10 years. I started by changing the oil and filter a carburetor rebuild put marvels mystery oil in the carburetor before rebuild and in the plug wells in the cylinders. New battery new starter. A complete tune up along with new cap & rotor button new ignition control module. I did start the car before the carburetor rebuild only to let it run for about 10 15 seconds. Now that it's ready to start how what are your recommendations I don't want to foul my plug's what should I use to prime the carburetor. I tried to start it a couple of times by using starting fluid using a very little I didn't want to flood it. Im not using the fuel in the gas tank it's old and don't 👃 like gas. It did try to fire and put a white puff of exhaust out Im sure it's old fuel and a combination of marvels. It was late and I stopped. Im dyeing to start her up and hear her run but Im taking no shortcuts and doing it correctly.
We would hand turn the engine first. But it sounds like you have already used the starter. Sounds like you are ready to go! Good luck!
So how do you do this at the sellers property? Either they agree to you riping thier vehicle apart, or do you pass
That depends on the car and desire FOR the car. I'd really never tear a car down at a sellers place. But if it doesn't run adjust your offer accordingly. Get it home, even if it is on a rollback.
i just found a lincoln continental 1975 sitting in a abandoned garage i'm gonna try to start it up
DO IT!
Concise..well spoken..for kicks, ask the big young guy if he has a prosthetic leg.... With a real foot..hey, I'm silly today... really like you guys..
They are real feet. I've seen them. They stink.
Is MMO better than just using fogging oil?
We've always used the Marvel Mystery and had excellent results.
hi if i lose the rotor position what sould i do ?
xristos antono Take out the lug on number one cylinder on the compression stroke and rotate the engine with a coat hanger down in the hole. When the stroke starts to go back down, rotate the engine backwards until you find top dead center. If the pointer is on the engine timing cover and the balancer is in good shape you should be able to verify on the balancer. Then install the distributor with the rotor pointed at number one plug postion
Fuel stabilizer -- a cheap and easy way to save some work on a vehicle that will sit for a while. But you two are good Drs. Frankenstein bringing that back to the land of the living. Of course, that leaves Minion as Igor. Not hating, just sayin'.
LOL! Glad someone got the reference! Like so many folks we parked the car thinking we'd "get back to it" in a few days. Well, you see how THAT worked out. Two years later and we're doing an episode on starting a car that has sat up for a while...We'll also be going a little deeper this coming week since the weather is going to kill doing any wheel painting.
signs that you need to change valve gasket? I punch the gas and get that "hiccup" pop noise?
+Lee Bailey That could be an accelerator pump issue too. Check your timing as well.
Where did you get that external starter ????PPLLLZZZZ
Not sure where Vinnie got that one BUT. Amazon carries one: Sunpro Actron CP7853 Remote Starter Switch for 6V and 12V Automotive Starting Systems, Black
Should pour some oil in each plug to lubricate the cylinder
It has been sitting and has no oil to lubricate once started
Yes.
Hello, I don't have a classic car, but I do have a Jetta that hasn't run in about 10 years due to financial issues and me being an idiot teenager when I got it. My first car. I've done all the prep work, replaced a seized fuel pump, new plugs installed, fuel pressure and compression are fine, new battery and what not. She turns over fine, some combustion happens, but she doesn't quite make it to that point where she runs on her own, she doesn't roar to life, so to speak. I'm by no means a mechanic. I can replace just about everything, I just can't diagnose a problem. If you could point me in the right direction, my car and I would be eternally grateful.
Chris Finke Contact Jeff directly at: jford@autorestomod.com he'll try and help. Send him the year jetta, if it is EFI or not etc.
Are you car instructors for tv redaction?
Sitting for years after being on the road is one thing .. how about a rebuild that's never been fired? I'm specifically worried about the 5 year old cam assembly lube (I've regularly given the bores a squirt of 30W and turned the engine over by hand). Almost ready to fire her up and can't decide whether to pull the lifters and give the lobes another smear - or just fire it up.
If it is on the stand and you are worried, pull the cam and re-lube it. Can't hurt and your brain will thank you for reducing the worry.
Naw, she's in frame now. Just buttoning up the last of the hoses and hardware this week - and you're right - I tell myself if I don't do it it'll probably eat at my brain. FWIW, have the recommended oil in the pan, but after the first up to temperature run it'll be sipping a diesel spec 20W50 (never sure if the fresh rings will like the heavy juice on the first start) oh, forget the brand now but I've had good luck keeping flat cams alive with it, and the bottom end shells look like new ten years later..
Yeah, the higher ZDDP of the diesel oil will help. We like using break in oil for that reason.
What kind of car?
oh a Ford falcon, nice, I'm working on a fairlane..
Btw I found external starter thxxxx
8:19
You're welcome.
For what?
aaayyyyee thats why im here thanks
I'm trying to start an 89 jaguar xjs v12 with 15k miles thats been sitting since 1995
Fresh fuel in the tank, purge the pump. Prime the system until you get fresh fuel. It might run a little rough at first. Note that all the things we discuss in here work there too.
I have a 1984 range rover 5l V8, im petrified to try start her. Its gonna be such a mission :(
Just take it slow and follow what we have shown here.
AutoRestoMod Muscle Car Resto and Modifications XD thanks! not sure i can do it but yeah hehehehe
That motor doesn't seem to have been sitting for very long.
It had sat for over five years at that point.
@ 1:56 all the effort being put into that engine and no new plug wires? Come on man, spring for a new set already.
from Dirt LOLOL
LOL, The set on the car have almost zero miles on them. We did a story for a magazine about 4 years ago, the wires were install and Jeff drove the car maybe three times before the water pump grounded it. But a new set of wires can be a good idea.
“Freeze plugs”are a myth. That is NOT a tell tale sign of a frozen block
Those “freeze plugs” you talk about is actually a called “core plugs.” They are made from brass or steel and are caps used to plug the holes in some cylinder heads and engine blocks from the casting process.
Again, not a good way to tell if the block had water in it and froze. You would need to have the block specifically checked from a machine shop to be 100% certain.
True. Some people call refrigerators Frigidaire. or facial tissues Kleenex. We all grow up with phrases taught to us buy our elders. But you are right technically it is a core plug.
its hank schrieder
I have been told I resemble Hank Schrader and Bill Clinton...
MY motor wont turn over by hand.
Marvel mystery oil down the spark plug holes, not a ton just about two table spoons full. let it sit for a few days. Then try to rotate by hand, go backwards first then forwards. Keep doing that for a couple weeks. Then if that doesn't work pull the heads and take a look.
I wouldn't have turned it over by hand until you prime the oil pump, sprayed some mystery oil in the cylinders etc. etc... Sorry, have to give you a thumbs down because you could have fucked up the rings and toasted the bearings by turning that engine over dry.
Sok. We should have erred on the side of caution so you are entitled to that one. Very good point.
tone down on the corny humor..comes off false and staged..and cringe worthy..but..that is my opinion..otherwise the real material is okay to watch and learn from..thx
We have, the video is from a few years back. We do listen.