Black Widow Pitch Meeting
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Scarlett Johansson’s Black Widow has been in the MCU for multiple movies since her debut in Iron Man 2 many years ago. While other characters have had the chance to shine in multiple solo outings, Natasha Romanoff was never given the opportunity to take the reins in a big screen adventure of her own. Until now… Several years after the character’s on-screen death. Better late than neveR?
Black Widow definitely raises some questions. Like why DID it take so long for them to make this? How is Natasha surviving all these explosions, car crashes and falls as a non-superpowered character? How many people died in that avalanche? Why did Natasha and her mom swap faces? How does that weird pheromone thing work? How did only the good guys survive that massive base collapse and fall? How did Natasha get away from Ross?
To answer all these questions and more, step inside the Pitch Meeting that led to Black Widow! It’ll be super easy, barely an inconvenience.
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Black Widow survived more falls in her movie than she did in Endgame.
@vilcantroper she probably died from the power of the cliff and the symbolism of the sacrifice rather than the fall
To soon!
Lmao this is so true 🤣🤣
Lol
too soon
“Everyone knows how she’s dies so let’s just make her invincible”
Spittin Facts!!
Yeah, she should've died many times over. Especially the car crash and the entire end scene.
I kept expecting Mobius to open a TVA portal to reset reality when she died in any of the dozen of ways that should have killed her.
Ah yes just like Achilles in troy
@@grayski3324 you do realize she’s been conditioned
I love that the only actor with an actual Eastern European accent had no lines at all
😭😂
Who that be?
@@Nan420 drekov's daughter
@@thesenate8268 oh yes right. She does say "Is he gone" that's her only line I guess.. lol
"Why would I bother watching a movie about a character that’s dead?"
“Because ScarJo’s costume is TIGHT!”
This should have been added
Actually a correct use of the word tight
Hey nowwww!
Wonder womans costume is much better
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 but Scarlett Johnson’s costume is TIGHT, too! I need you to get aaaaall the way off my back for having this joke he just as applicable with Wonder Woman
"we're gonna do a Deadpool."
"Oh great!"
"No the bad one."
"Oh no..."
And they totally ripped off Stryker from X2, down to Dreykov copying his physique and glasses, using their mute and scarred children with heterochromia as the center of a mind control plot.
Its super Easy barely an inconvenience 😝
Sorry but i'm still confused wich one is the better Deadpool? Wolverine Origins: young Ryan Reynolds 2009 or old Ryan Reynolds 2016 that looks like a male d$$k
I can't find a more accurate way to describe the "Taskmaster" in Black Widow.......
@@TheElectricMayhem I mean, Stryker was passionate, he would monologue like he was performing on stage, with gusto and fire, while Dreykov was cold, the embodiment of a chilling Russian. But it goes to show chunkier British actors are who you want to play your American and Russian masterminds.
"So what's the mission?"
"Sign up for Disney Plus."
LOL!
I actually cracked up there
one of the best lines ever written!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I LOL to that phrase
It’s not bad if you already have it
And have friends
Over as if 4 friend a solid 5 $ saved per person
“oh he’s great, can he do a Russian accent?”
“doesn’t matter”
“it matters a little”
“nope! so…”
i’m crying
And here I was wondering why there would be an American amidst all of that! Rofl
Ray Winstone plays Ray Winstone, in a movie about Ray Winstone.
Oh Cool, which one is that.
All of them.
Did anyone else hope this movie was gonna be about Widow and Hawkeye and how they met? Because that would have been sick to get a backstory on their friendship
Would have been more enjoyable
Yea, Budapest
I was hoping it would never be made
No.
Not to mention it would have added more emotion to her ultimate sacrifice in End Game when you rewatch it. Instead we got a soulless throw-away plot
"I was thinking we could make a Black Widow movie."
"Sounds like something we should've done back in 2010."
Haha 2016 at the most lol
It's definitely gonna feel like a 2010 movie.
@@SourRobo8364 in 2010 this movie wouldve never reached theatres
Isn't that the Iron Man 2 Movie?
@@akshy471 why so?
Can't believe he didn't mention how Task Master basically lost 30lbs as soon as they revealed she was a woman.
Instant weight loss capsules
@Alan wow wow wow wow
Wait, did Taskmaster lose weight?
CALLED IT
I thought Olga was OK at the end of Hitman, though??
I did think it was weird how she and her sister tried to murder each other with zero explanation on first sight of one another… and then also call a truce with zero explanation, instantly being on each other’s side now.
Also, there’s a word for “intentional collateral damage”: murder.
Didn’t know you could murder buildings…
I agree. Felt like "Hey Avenger sister, I sent you this stuff because I need your help, but first, let's do some cool fighting for no reason"
@@schattentaenzerin "You could have just asked"
"You never know someone until you fight them"
@@bitharne she knew the girl was in there
Bruh, I've realized, you need a lot of drugs to now enjoy these movies. The drugs help you ignore all the inconsistencies... Or exacerbates them since you still notice them no matter how many drugs you've used....
Honestly, I didn't even realize the vest was from Infinity War. I just thought they were ripping on '90s artists' obsessions with vests, pouches and shoulder pads.
Same
I watched it today and struggled to remember where she even was at the beginning of Infinity War. I can't keep track of what people *wear*
I thought it was one of the contemporary nods to the feminist gripe about no pockets on women's clothing.
Should of seen the shoulder pads in the 80's, they were something else.
"Can he do a Russian accent?"
"It doesn't matter."
"It matters a little."
can he do a boston accent in the departed? doesnt matter
incidentally, he has also played beowulf.
@@hydroponichomesteader6852 It would have been better if they had just forgone the Russian accents with some nod to them being trained to not have an accent or to have and unobtrusive accent. Fake ones are really obvious and bad.
BEOWULF!!!
No
"Why didn’t we release this movie before Endgame?"
"Because it’s actually just an origin story for her sister."
Will admit though Pugh is a fine piece of ass I wouldn't mind making sweet love by the fire to.
@@EddyA1337 sir?
@@EddyA1337 Down bad
@@EddyA1337 wtf
@@EddyA1337 I'd give her the best 10 seconds of my life
"Well, the child didn't really die, so morally we're all good."
"Well..."
It was lowkey, but the quick "Well..." before moving on to the next point as if noting happened killed me for some reason.
"oh can he speak with a Russian accent"
"Nope doesn't matter'
"It kinda does"
"No"
-"I figured we could get more grounded with the Black Widow movie, you know?"
Deadass was expecting:
"Yeah so the bad guy is up in a skybase and 50% of the movie is just Black Widow falling"
-"Oh how very grounded"
Well, 50% of it was grounded...
@@JonathanSladkoTV a cup half full kind of guy
Hey, looking at how black widow was shot in previous movies, we can be lucky the whole part of her falling wasn't a close-up of her ass all the time.
Why do people say Deadass?
That’s why the blonde was added 😂
Honestly I wait for the pitch meetings more than most of the movies themselves.
Same
Likewise, they're FAR more entertaining than the actual movie/show!
Me too
".....Yeah-yeah-yeah!"
are you telepath or something
The sign up for Disney plus joke actually got me laughing because it’s so true. Disney has made it so that to be able to keep up with the mcu you basically have to own a Disney plus account
And then the actual MCU shows on Disney plus are effectively underwhelming previews for future MCU stuff.
Actually they’ve stated that they’re not gonna leave movie viewers totally in the dark.
I know I just watch UA-cam reviews instead. The star wars shows does make it tempting, but not worth it for me.
Or have access to the pirate bay...
@@videogamenostalgia loki was really good though.
Taskmaster got turned into a bland, silent character in this movie, and I'm still pissed about that -.- lol
But Winter Soldier was a quiet, stoic unstoppable assassin and that movie was good so they just had to do the same thing again! \s
Same
@@chrislaf winter soldier is the same in comics, but taskmaster is not.
A lot of comic villains have similar "snarky but bitter smart guy" characterizations in Marvel comics. If they had made her a wit-spewing Deadpool knock-off everyone would have hated that too.
The bland and silent aspect wasn't an inherent quality of Taskmaster. They were under mind control. She stopped being silent and began showing emotion the moment the mind control was removed. We'll see what happens with the character going forward. Mind you, she'll probably need to go see Bucky's therapist.
Headcanon: Every single ‘I don’t know’ in this series is really just a stand-in for stuff Ryan was forced to remove from the sketches by major studio execs.
I never missed when I'm shooting something or someone
Hahaha
@@leroyvermilion7708 by THE major studio exec
@@leroyvermilion7708 I believe you missed it
that would be better than the sheer incompetence behind most of them lol
"He's from some of the OTHER MOVIES."
-The entire MCU in one sentence
It’s almost like these movies are prequels or sequels of the other and that’s how movies work.
@@mr.stuffdoer8483 relax shill
@@coreywallace2052 is TIGHT!
@@mr.stuffdoer8483 its almost like you missed the joke
I can't believe this ended up just being a commercial for _yet another_ tv show
So did you reduce every previous movie down to it's post credit scene, also? Maybe you should just not watch those?
@@broomemike1 The difference is a lot of those other movies still have quality to them, while this one’s only quality was a good supporting character which they immediately used as a cash grab
@@jlupus8804 Is this your first Marvel movie? One thing will always lead to another, it’s kind of their thing. If you looked at every Marvel movie in that way you’d have a lot more complaining to do. “Omg I can’t believe this is leading toward yet another marvel property.” It’s never ending lol
@@georgeplunkitt5565 yes and no. The other movies were for the most part good movies that had post credit scenes setting up future movies.
This was a bland movie using a new character to point people to Disney Plus. It feels different.
"And then Dreykov reveals that he has been making use of the one natural resource the world has too much of."
"Solar energy?"
"Girls"
"Oh, yeah yeah yeah!"
That part was so weird. I don’t even know what they were going for.
I watched this in theaters with a couple of friends and we all collectively said "based" after that line
It was supposed to simultaneously be a misogynistic comment and a critique on the societal neglect of abandoned children, especially girls.
“I mean a Deadpool in an X-Men: Origins way.”
Faith in the character has just vanished.
They can't do that! Deadpool already traveled back in time to kill that character, so he doesn't exist in this time line anymore.
Well I mean yeah, it's task master in name and powers only, so yes just like X men origins
That part was really disappointing but, at the very least, she's freed from the mind control at the end. So there's opportunity to have the character reappear later with a very different personality that's closer to the comics/cartoons/etc. It was still a weird ass decision to begin with, though.
@@Liesmith424 There's a whole Google's worth of information about why Scarjo died instead of Jeremy. A lot of it contradictory and uninformative. If I may project for a moment, I think most of us would've liked a recurring Black Widow franchise. The impression I get is that Scarjo wasn't interested in continuing in Marvel. Maybe she'll be the female Dr. Doolittle in the reboot of the movie liked by literally no one.
It works better if you are not a fan of taskmaster cause this movie taskmaster actually have personal connection to natasha.
Marvel: Let’s make Taskmaster kind of a disappointment.
Marvel Writer: Super Easy Barely An Inconvenience!
Yes, let's have the Taskmaster be a female, for no reason other than as a shocking swerve!
Kind of?
I honestly wasn't disappointed
I liked it!🤷♂️
Making taskmaster a woman did nothing to change the character so that part I don’t care about but making her a robot and then eliminating her by end of movie for a one time use villain is a travesty
As soon as i saw Taskmaster, my brain went: "I bet that's gonna secretly be the daughter who survived somehow" and then I immediately thought "Haha, that would be so ridiculous XD"..... :(
Man what a missed opportunity!... It really would have been a freaking awesome twist that when Black Widow smashed the vile on Taskmaster, it is revealed that she wasn't under mind control at all... she was just evil like her father, and that would have led to a great final battle between the two.
She wouldn't even have to be evil.... she would only need to be pissed off that black widow, ya know, tried to kill her and completely fucked her life up???
Exactly!
IMPOSSIBLE!!1! All women everywhere are all inherently noble, good, and perfect. And if you imply that any woman at any time could be less than perfect, then you are a misogynist hate troll.
I feel like that would've confused the tone and made it seem retroactively justified that she blew up that building, a lot of the point of this movie was her atoning for her mistakes
"why?"
"because its been a couple minutes since the last fight scene" BRILLIANT
I didn't understand that scene either, like why are they instantly trying to kill each other then 2 seconds later they are ok?
@@AlejandroMorales-zj9sl that happens in EVERY Marvel movie whenever good characters who are gonna be working together meet for the first time
@@AlejandroMorales-zj9sl I took as like a "thing" they do as sisters. They have to fight til one of them submits each time they see each other after a long time or something
That was simply a Widow greeting, nothing more.
As I was watching that scene all I could think is what's Ryan George gonna say lol!
I love how Yelena mocks Natasha for not confirming a body when the building exploded ... Then they don't confirm a body after the helicopter crash.
Rumor has it that the corpse was supposed to fall on the ground
maybe that's why she chose to stay
@@kaboomgaming4255 yes
Whoopsie!
Leads me to think he's not dead. It's too exact of a foreshadow/callback.
Black Widow had an amazing story. Just a shame we didn't actually get to see any of it.
We needed a prequel but we needed Scarlet Johanson
Pitch Meetings should probably start getting a cut of the movie’s profits because some people will watch the movie just to see the pitch meeting
Or watch the pitch meeting so they don't have to watch a movie.
When I watched black widow in the theater the first thing that came to mind after was "the pitch meeting for this movie full of plot holes is going to be tight" and I was not disappointed
Is it weird that no one seems to really care about plot holes anymore? I remember a time when plot holes in blockbusters was considered bad..
@@atomicviking2497 because too many people will defend Marvel movies
@@atomicviking2497 you cant say anything about a marvel movie.
Plot holes literally do not exist. It's a convention made up by artsy 'critics' born after 1990 to justify their petty existence due to the fact their lives will never be as good as the people making the actual movie.
@@justafidemyself Plot holes don't matter as long as the movie's entertaining.
"Pheromones"
"She can't just walk to the edge of the room.."
"Pheromones"
"Fair enough".
He's lucky none of them are trained to use sniper rifles...
@@antiochus87 well they couldn't use that cuz *pheromones*
@@Chillllllllllllllllllllllll "Oh very powerful pheromones!"
Seriously, if a black widow took a shot from across the street? Several floors up?
Pher enough
@@antiochus87 yeah,but you see...
*Pheromones*
7:22 When I watched it, having watched Falcon & Winter Soldier a while prior, it ended up having the impact I think they intended, just in reverse. I was shocked seeing them give Elaine’s character more screen time.
Ryan, I gotta know. Do other Screen Rant writers help you with the writing... or do you write all your own pitch meetings? If you do all the writing, you are one of the best comedians around. Also, your personal channel is great too 👍
I read an interview with him a little while ago and I think he does it all. It's comedic genius... Can't get enough of these pitch meetings.
He has stated that he is a one-man crew
His consistency is remarkable.
Nonstop gold every time.
Hi personal channel is further proof of genius
"And then Wonder Woman did super well", "Stop talking!" Died.
I didn't got that
@@KritikuNgaFerizaji it's dc movie
@@skeleton_ajay1118 I have seen wonder woman both of them I know 😂 what I didn’t know is that why did Ryan say stop when the other Ryan mentioned Wonder Woman
@@KritikuNgaFerizaji because....
@@siddharthdash8946 oh, ok!
Pitch meeting: *Spoilers Ahead*
Me an intellectual: I know. She dies
🤣🤣🤣🤣
WOAH... SPOILER
Wait a minute Spoilers are TIGHT
Me: Wowowowow
Wait, her character dies?!
Wow wow wow wow wow
“A non-superpowered hero would have died many times in this movie.”
“Yeah but we know when she dies so we can’t have that.”
Such a missed Skrull opportunity
Thank god finally I get to know where that Black Widow's vest is from.👍
"What's the Mission?"
"Sign up for Disney +"
this had me lol.
It’s not bad if you already have it
And have friends
Over as if 4 friend a solid 5 $ saved per person
And once you signed up you need to pay for Premium access anyway
@@jv-nn4uu ah right good to know. Thought it might be permanently locked behind another paywall 😏
Not even sure why they needed to plug it here. The sheer brilliance of _Loki_ is advertisement *enough* for many, dammit.
Studio guy: “Why did it take us so long to do this?”
Writer: “I don’t know”
Fair enough
Yep, I wouldn't be surprised if that WAS the real pitch for this movie! 😂
@@user-wr2uy9pj4m I don’t know & Fair enough
Is more appropriate for the style of this channel.
@@hermask815 that's why I said it
Writer: "Money"
Studio guy: " Oh.. U have my undying attention"
Loved it!!! That calling Taskmaster the Deadpool from X-Men Origins: Wolverine (2009), Genius!!! This video made a lot of good points
One mistake: Yelena was freed at the beginning of the movie so the pheromone lock was already disabled. Plus, I doubt she could smell Draykov from outside the plane. But as always, great stuff!
I don't think the mind control has anything to do with the pheromone lock. All the Widows had the pheromone lock, including Natasha who was not brainwashed. Pheromones can travel for miles, and their presence can be sensed rather than smelled. According to Melina (Natasha and Yelena's surrogate mom), the only way to disengage the pheromone lock is to sever the nerve. So unless Yelena severed her own nerve offscreen, then her being able to blow up Dreykov's aircraft is a plothole.
“Wasn’t she just captured Ross, what happens next ?”
“I don’t know”
“Fair enough”
LOL
Yeah, that was weird how they just skipped ahead.
How she's gonna scape? oh it's gonna be super easy barely an inconveninence"
@M Ralte But... Vision wasn't captured. He was always Team Iron Man. Even when he and Wanda were seeing each other, he was never wanted or on the run. Wanda was but not him.
@@ViewtifulDarnell He means that in infinity war steve, falcon, and Natasha save wanda and vision from the black order even though wanda and vision should be way stronger than them
@@4hm4d101
Should be, but Vision was caught off guard and Wanda barely understood her powers back then. She understands her powers a lot more now after WandaVision, and especially after reading the Darkhold, she’ll definitely be a force to be reckoned with.
"Surgical head-smashing is tight!"
You've done it again...
He always done it right 😐
Wow wow wow. Wow.
Hail Satan!
It worked for squidward...
does it every time tho
didnt fail once
6:33
I was legit watching this on Disney Plus, and saying “Convenient that no sky debris falls on them! Well, they have plot armor, so why would I even question it?”
The debris also completely avoids the road.
@@greggs1067 What luck!
The definition of equality would have been to give her a shirtless scene so we could see her abs. Every Marvel movie that's been successful has that scene. Maybe Captain Marvel 2 and Black Widow 2 should make a note of that.
"Did you see Avengers: Endgame? Because I have terrible news!" I just laughed so hard that I snorted! 😂🤣😂🤣
she had to diee , else she'd be melted.
Snorting is tight
@@DMS-pq8 wow wow wow wow
This snorter music is funny because i laugh!💩🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@DMS-pq8 DMS1983 IS LAUGHING AND SNORTING TOO HAHA🤣
After this movie I wonder just how Hawkeye got the soul stone, because if this movie proves ANYTHING it's that she would have survived that fall.
*cough* *cough* PLOT *cough*
☠️☠️☠️☠️
Maybe she had 9 lives like a cat and in endgame it was har last and we should call har cat woman insted
Wow. This is so good at observation it should have been in the pitch meeting.
She sacrificed herself on purpose
Fun fact: the Winter Soldier was also an "X-Men Origins Deadpool character."
Except Winter Soldier was mostly comic accurate and his emotional connection with the protagonist and the audience was much more genuine, having already been established in a previous movie, but sure. Totally the same thing as in Black Widow.
Lol no he wasn’t. He was like that in the comics and that was before the movie.
@@parkeranimations3671 Just quoting the video. "Oh so turn the character into a mind-controlled killing machine with no speaking lines or personality traits, yeah that works too." That's what the Winter Soldier was in The Winter Soldier.
That's true. I think it worked for the movie.
But in the comics he had a bit more attitude and even a whole romance with Natasha while they were both brainwashed operatives.
@@elheber What? Bucky had actual dialogue.
Gotta love how convenient the face switching masks are even though we were never told where they came from and why they show up randomly. Also I love how those bullets didn't go through the helicopter where Yelana was sitting but everywhere else the bullets shredded through the chopper. Lol
"Cuz it's been a couple minutes since the last action scene."
God, this. So much this. I actually paused the movie at this point and went.. wait, why are they fighting? They know who each other is, and Natasha was basically invited to come visit her.
Maybe that's how they greet each other in the Widow society 😌
Oh my Gosh Eno you can't just ask people why they're fighting
Yeah and the overall pacing for those couple of first scenes was horrendous (ACTION, ACTION, ACTION, 10sec of character building, ACTION). It got way better after though
They were fighting probably because they are not sure if either one of them is on a mission to kill the other. idk I'm just guessing.
1 word: "Beacuse"
Writer: "Taskmaster is actually the little girl from the explosion"
Studio guy: "cool, so who is gonna play the 9-10 year old girl 8 years later?"
Writer: "i was thinking olga kurylenko, which is five years older than scarlett johansson and in her 40s"
lmao
are you shitting me so they picked a 40 year old actor to play a 19 year old
that's a really weird choice, and she's not even speaking in the movie
Jesus, that was Olga? They uglied her up horribly.
I always thought task master was some random mercenary dude
1:31...
"Cause We've Been Leaning Into That, for TheLast Five Years or So"
😂😂😂
I was really hoping you'd have mentioned the giant sky fortress that somehow managed to evade detection for decades and how a massive structure plummeting to earth would have caused a nuclear bomb sized explosion in Age of Ultron but in Black Widow it was totally fine.
didn't you see how slowly that massive structure fell into the earth? :|
The size of the city that Ultron was going to drop was incomparable to the 'giant' sky fortress though.. The sky fortress was itty bitty compared to the city.
By this point I've stopped watching movies. I just watch the Pitch Meetings.
same 🙄 at least Ryan is reliably entertaining
I was watching the movie seeing if I can guess everything that would come up in the pitch meeting lol
I didn't even care about spoiler reviews. I'd watch the critical drinkers review before the film.
We beg to differ
Big time saver. Plus there's the fact that most movies are garbage.
"If you can smell him, you can't hurt him."
Kilgrave: "Amateur."
Guy spittin' orders. Even from mile away u can't disobey him.
That guy has low key probably the most devastating superpower you can have. He could have built an army of superheroes/villains. He could have become president. Hell, he could have taken over the world.
Instead he just psychologically tortures people for fun.
Lol!
@@darthvectivus7220 He does become president for life in Marvel 1602.
@@darthvectivus7220 especially the way he died to Jessica Jones in the series was just laughable. Here's a man able to control anyone with cunning plans by the wazoo usually, but no, all he wanted was a hug.
Every time Ryan does a pitch meeting I find myself relieved I didn't waste time or money on a bad movie.
I had kind of got into the movie, not like it was good but I was engaged enough that I forgot she was canonically dead, and the scene of them celebrating their victory as a family at the end and saying they were going to stick together from then on, then hard cut to her tombstone was the funniest thing I've seen in a movie in a long time.
"The Avengers: The Age of Disney+"
Working title.
Nothing was more aggravating than being the one person in my group of friends that has seen F&tWS and immediately recognized Valentina, only to see blank looks on the others' faces.
“Natasha escapes with the vials and goes to see her fake sister and they start fighting when they see each other”
“Why”
“Unclear”
"the viles" Those are reprehensible people aren't they? :-)
"cuz it's been a still minutes since the last action"
For a second I was like WTF are "The Viles". I dont remember seeing that character in the movie, Then I realized you meant "The Vials" LMAOOO
Ohh grammar nazis who mask their spelling corrections in flippant comments are TIGHT.
@@Steelburgh
“Whoops”
“Whoopsie”
❤the jab at Perlmutter.
Yep, some female-led superhero movies bombed impressively. Mostly the ones where the writers/producers apparently agreed that since the lead was super-sexy, the entire plot should consist of her doing suggestive poses in painted-on outfits.
Most recently, the issue with female-led superhero movies is that they're trying so hard to make the point that women are as good (or better) than men, but then they kneecap the writing because they think any character development or struggle that the MC has to go through will undercut the message.
Look at Captain Marvel, sure it did well at the box office, but that's probably because it was released after one of the most popular Avenger's movies of all time and Marvel was still the hottest thing at the Cinema. But it's been heavily criticized and any projects with Captain Marvel have been scrapped or postponed until she can't even be the solo MC in her own sequel.
But if they just let their characters have some vulnerability and character development, then maybe they'd have a chance at writing some good plot (ie. Wonder Woman).
I still can't process Ryan didn't include the mocking of Yelena for poses of ScarJo.... Super funny video btw... 😅😅
You forgot to mention that the movie ends by saying that Natasha has two families, but in endgame she says that the Avengers are her only family.... :/
Whoops!
@@dsolomon Whoopsie!
@Jimmy J Whoops
Maybe they got dusted during snap?
@@akashr2856 yeah the end credits scene makes it seem like at least her sister probably was snapped
Hmmm, that scene with Natasha falling... And she hit everything on her way down, I feel even super soldiers would've been hospitalized... For an hour tops.
Cap has fallen from higher altitudes without any problems tho
@@olimpiano8760 Cap kinda has the most perfect version of the super soldier serum running through him tho. this version of black widow does not.
It was said in the movie that the Widows (or atleast Natasha) were chosen because of her genetical superiority. So I guess she is better than a regular human.
Natasha has something even better than super powers: Plot armor!
@@kenanburakkaplan4087 I took that to mean shes like peak human, like Olympic athlete level, not super soldier level.
When the Pitch Meeting is better than the actual movie 🍿
That's always the case.
The better the movie, the more hilarious it is. But the worse the movie... The more hilarious it is.
Not a hard thing to do with the mcu
Can I request you do Into The Woods as the next one? I know it's a bit old now, but you would have a field day looking at that. It's just.... unbelievable.
"Hey, it must be difficult putting up new Pitch Meetings within like a day or two of a movie's initial release."
"Nope, super easy, barely an inconvenience!"
How do they even do that their faster than honest trailers
Oh really?
Doesn't hurt when your script is a Mad Libs that you basically just put names and plot elements into.
@@note4note804 I think it's also helpful that most movie scripts _themselves_ these days are basically Mad Libs, and so they easily fall right into the Pitch Meeting formula.
Because most reviewers see movies before they are released. I saw Black Widow a few days before the release and I know someone who saw it two weeks in advance. Plenty of time to have the video ready to go before the release.
"It doesn't matter."
"Well, it matters a little."
"NOPE!"
heh
"That's what we're going with". Lol, these are fantastic!
Now I’m genuinely wondering whether anyone actually bothered to tell the director that Black Widow _doesn’t_ have superpowers.
"Natasha killed a child?"
Wow, that adds a huge and interesting moral dilemma to the character. What are you going to do with-
"Well, she didn't really die, so it's alright."
Thanks for getting my hopes up, movie.
The moral dilemma was still there. She consciously put a child's in harms way, and expected her to die as colleteral damage.
@@ImAlsoMerobiba it's there, but they don't do anythign with it, so it might as well not be.
@@ImAlsoMerobiba atleast they were loyal to her comics -source material
And she doesn't even want revenge from Natasha
@@whatdidyousay1235 idk bro (i don't watch the movie), but if you got brainwashed winter soldier style by someone who you suppose to avenge to. I feel like it's doesn't matter either
Literally couldn’t stop laughing at how widow was just blown up, and thrown around n still survived 💀💀💀💀
When she fell off the building, hit everything on the way down and landed on her feet!!!
@@thirdofherne9232 and in the next scene she was running as if she is on her morning jog! marvel really did a terrible job with this movie! its timing, writing, directing, everything is just a mess! left a sour taste just like how WW84 ruined WW for the audience!.. yes its a movie about superbeings but the only superbeing in this movie was ALEXEI and rest all were simply enhanced, peak of human potential ability beings, yet survived the explosions, falls, bullets, sky diving through debris, and shake it off like deadpool could do. utterly disappointed, this movie could have been marvel's first directive approach as a crime thriller, the gruesome past of widows and atrocities upon them, but no, they had to joke about the uterus removal like as if its getting a tattoo job done! the visualization of that one scene would have took the movie to whole different level, instead of tapping into the pain of the widows past life and trainings, we got this piece of hurried crap for money grab.
Yeah, feels like the saw the later episodes of Die Hard. :D
You should see the old Green Hornet movie serial. In one cliffhanger, the car they are in gets blown up as they cross a bridge and they fall to their doom. How did they survive? Next chapter shows them lying on the ground apparently dead near the smashed car. They get up after a moment and leave. That's it.
Mary Sue confirmed.
Thanks for making feel like I'm not the only one who had these concerns. You touched on like all the stuff I was thinking about
PITCH MEETING IDEA: Mitchells vs. The Machines
FUNNIEST MOVIE I HAVE EVER WATCHED!! IT WAS #1 ON NETFLIX FOR LIKE A WEEK AND IT IS STILL ON NETFLIX!!
The movie should have been much darker and violent than it was. Black Widow has one of the most sinister and tragic backstories in Marvel, but they just had to turn it into another flashy-unrealistic action movie. Should have been more about the tragedy and emotion rather than action.
it still has to be rated E because Disney.
That would have made her look vulnerable, though. For some reason, Twitter feminists hate that and that scares Hollywood into not giving women weaknesses, which is sad because vulnerabilities make us empathize with characters. It’s a shame women can’t be portrayed as anything other than a “badass who don’t need no man”. What endeared us to Tony, Steve, and Thor were their moments of weakness and overcoming obstacles, making us feel the triumph that they felt.
Really? I found it very compelling and emotional?
...but money
Chuck being dark, the stakes were so low and things went on just for the sake of the plot
“So morally, we’re all good”.....
“Well??”
🤣🤣🤣🤣👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
😂😂😂, yeah yeah yeah!!
I didn’t wonder about her vest and it’s been a while since seeing Endgame so I thoroughly enjoyed the vest fixation before having the connection made for me.
It was better when it was just a thing the two sisters liked, rather than explicitly tying it into another film, honestly.
What the heck it was Sunday and there was no pitch meeting why?
The Pheromones thing was definitely the dumbest aspect of this movie.
Like that creepy date scene in oceans 13 with Damon and the big nose
It was the Taskmaster for me. :( although the pheromone shield was pretty lame
I have to say the pheromones are actually very important in the comics so I personally think they were the most accurate thing they could have done for a black widow movie
Task Master reveal was disappointing af as well
dumbest scene in any movie i think
Watching Ryan George spoil movies for us is TIGHT!
Yes sir, it is!
I’m gunna need ya to get all the way off his back.
I saw it
@@sheahunsinger9801 "ok let me get off of that thing"
yeah yeah yeah!
These guys are both so hilarious, but even funnier together, it's kind of a miracle they even found each other in this big old world. It must have been pretty difficult to find each other.
Super-easy, barely an inconvenience.
Oh really?
Yeah they were both living with secret Russian spy families as children that just happened to be next-door neighbors. And they still didn't meet each other but then one day they both went to summer camp together in Siberia and realized that they have the same parents IRL. So they hatched a plan to get them back together by pretending to be the other person at the end of summer camp, and then they'd have to get back together just to switch them back.
"Countessa Valentina shows up with a mission for her"
"What's the mission?"
"Subscribe to Disney+!"
I swear, I've watched this video probably ten times or so and still every time I hear that exchange I snort my Mountain Dew Summer Freeze Zero Sugar drink all over my keyboard.
Why won't you do an "Idiocracy" pitch meeting? That -movie- documentary definitely deserves its own pitch meeting!
We’re living it. No need to pitch it again
I want a Campus Law pitch meeting
Lebowski pitch meeting man
Lol good recommendation
Maybe for the eugeny undertones?
Cap: "You here with a mission sir?"
Fury: "I am. Sign up for Disney Plus."
Sounds like a terrible mission, possibly financially not very good depending on the country you’re in but okay once you start it and it works kinda
Absolutely nailed it! Black Widow was 2hr and 14mins of my life I’ll never get back.
This Pitch Meeting was better than the movie itself.
Facts my brother (or sister)
Black Widow has more powers than Hulk by this point.
While hulk gets weaker, natasha seems going the opposite way. Well I mean ulin the first avenger movie, natasha survives a hand slap from hulk.
At this rate in a few years they will reveal she was a supersoldier the whole time
@@showmeyourmoves8551 that's the reason why hulk chose nat to nut
I regret saying this already
@@danielej5856 omfg
@@philipthesquid4979 In the comics she is
I am so impressed on how quickly Ryan George made this video.. almost as impressive as Natasha falling off 10 story buildings, hitting things on the way down, and landing on her feet!
The fact that Captain America fell a shorter distance and took longer to get up🤦🏽♂️
And yet somehow endgame's fall kills her...
@@ihavenocommonsensebut2008 yeah, the logic is just a little, y'know... Off 🤔😅
@@hassathunter2464 I have no idea how that works. Marvel physics are confusing 😣
@@hassathunter2464 that cliff had anti plot armor magic
I wonder what he is going to do for Loki. Ryan is variant and have a parallel universe of more Ryans producing a pitch meetings.
Pheromones aren't actually felt through the olfactory nerves.
You actually have receptors in your mouth.
Sounds like you need to keep a distance from Pheromone Guy..or wear a gas mask
@@wikansaktianto9215 Or at least stop licking them
Seems like the movie has some rly bad writing.
WHOOPSIE
@@ashmitbajpai390 You cant make dinosaurs from frog DNA either, but I've never seen anyone say Jurassic Park was a bad movie because of it.
Most of the times I prefer the pitch meeting over the actual movie.
Esp with this one, well, and probably The Eternals, too.
You should definitely watch Black Widow though and especially Eternals
@@valkyrie9646 black widow is a fine movie. This pitch meeting episode is a proof enough as there are less shading here than any other film.
I don’t even watch Disney movies anymore but still enjoy the pitch meetings
@@valkyrie9646 The Eternals is directed by Chloe Zhao, a brilliant film maker, and has an outstanding cast, that film should be one of the best movies in the MCU by far.
taskmaster this cold bad ass calculating mercenary .. can copy the fighting and skill set of any person it sees. Reduced to a mind control chump. Dammit we got X-men origins Deadpooled.
For freaking real
@@philipseitz95 I mean it's not much of a reduction. The copying thing is still there. Still bad ass. And a pretty minor character. People are only pretending to now suddenly care about the character.
@@johnnymittle exactly. Also they could still make the og taskmaster appear somewhere else I mean there can be multiple people with same alias and plus he could be a mutant or mutate or whatever the f he is when they introduce those. Love his personality though, it would've been a waste imo to have his appearance be in this movie, would much rather see him go against Spiderman or Deadpool.
@@johnnymittle yeah I hear ya… but it was my favorite villain as a kid… so I did and do care
He should've mentioned that the widows literally attacked her one at a time in the end scene XD
6:32 When I saw it I was thinking she wouldn't be able to kill him though because of the pheromones. A couple thing that could have it make sense is that Yelena got freed from the brainwash. The other thing that I think makes a bit more sense is that she was attacking the plane more so than him. Maybe the pheromones didn't reach outside the plane.
The quality of these pitch meetings has been increasing over time, gets criticism right, entertaining, and quite funny.
More shitty Hollywood movies becomes ....better pitch meetings we get!
Also the cast is great
@@johnnytee911 A star studded cast.
@@johnnytee911 Yeah, I mean they managed to make a movie full of plot holes relatively entertaining
"He can't hurt him because of pheromones "
"aah.. Smelling good for most of your life is tight!"
ajsjsjdj literally could use a sniper
I smell a marketing opportunity...
"Just stop talking" 🤣 🤣
I literally watched the film today, so I could enjoy the pitch meeting without the feeling of beeing spoilerd.