Luo [of Kenya] vs Jonam [of Uganda] Language Comparison
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- This video entails a comparison between Luo of Kenya and the Jonam tribe of Northern Uganda. It captures the surprising resemblance and difference between what is clearly long-lost brothers
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I'm from Mt Kenya area. Uhuru Kenyatta made me appreciate the Luo people. I'm thankful that you are part of our nation Kenya 🇰🇪 and our larger nation, Africa 🌍
Thank you so much. Much love❤️
So Glad to hear this My In-laws from Mt. Kenya. Truth is what Uhuru Kenyatta did for this Country will go down into History. If many others put Politics aside and learn the lessons you did between the Myths of Kikuyu - Luo Friendship, that is a Diamond in our Lives.
🤣🤣 ur very funny man,. What did uhuru do
@@johnolang I guess the 'handshake' and the concept behind the subsequent _building bridges_ initiative. He and Raila were invited to speak about it at the US national prayer breakfast. I think he tried to reverse the division that had been brought about in his father's regime, by Moi (given that the Kikuyu and Luo were his biggest political threats) and himself along with others. I think the cold war between USSR and the west played a role. It was very active in Africa. A lot of propaganda had been planted over decades, even oaths taken. The name Raila could not be uttered on the mountain. Yet he got 700,000+ votes from the region this time and could have gone neck - neck with Ruto had he started campaigning even half as early as he did. Anyone can say they're a Raila supporter without any backlash. Not enough progress, but that's a good beginning. Uhuru's family walked the talk too, with a Luo daughter in law. Ruto unfortunately did a lot of damage because he camped there for 5 years saying things like "watu wa kung'oa reli", introducing the idea of Raila as anti-Christ (lol) etc
@@panafrican.nation I get u sir, may the spirit of unity prevail in our nation
Am Opiyo Morrish, an Acholi from Gulu City, northern Uganda. We are the same blood, same language. May God bless LUO all over the world.
Apwoyo matek Opiyo. I will come back to Gulu. Kindly share my videos with your friends and family. I need more luos here.
I'm oyango Fredrick from Nairobi proud to be luo
I love the Luo nation. Very beautiful and honest genuine people. Saying out loud from the Kamba nation in Makueni county Kenya.
And the luo love you too Kasee😉😉
You're our friends. Take it to the bank lol 😂😂🤣. Our brothers and sisters
@@judithodwar7112 Sure we are in it together
You are our friends 💯
We love you too our kamba brother from makueni
In kampala, I lived with 3 neighbours an Acholi lady, a Japhadhola lady, and a Kenyan man, these three used to have conversations amongst themselves each speaking their own language and they understood each Oktoberfest very well, even laughed in their conversations
It's surprising how close the languages despite the tribes being geographically apart
Very beautiful
I am a Kenyan Luo, unapologetic and proud. Over time, I thought we were very close to the Acholi. I believe this was due to the fact that Acholi appears to be a more dominant and visible Luo sub-group in Uganda.
However, my subsequent appraisal persuades me that we, Kenyan Luo, are culturally and linguistically closest to Jonam. It is baffling that such uncanny concurrence in language and customs still exist after migrational separation of very many years and geographical distance.
I applaud the UA-camr for this very exciting project. Long may it continue. Apwoyo ahinya, Jodalawa.
Unapologetic and proud ? Omera 🤣
Have you compared the Alur?. They are closest to Luos than all our Ugandan cousins
Hahaha unapologetic and proud😂😂
Yes, Gilbert, I have compared the Alur. check out for the videos
Great points for those studying this language and its peoples!
Point of clarification, ching ,lwet and baat are all luo words with different meanings
Ching-- Hand(elbow plus fingers)
Baat--Arm(from shoulder to the fingers)
Lwet--finger
However different dialects use one of the above to mean the whole arm without specification of parts.Just the same as 'Thigo' and 'dho ot', have different meanings.
'Dho ot' is that opening,entrance or space used to have access in a house or room, while 'Thigo' is that system comprising the frame and wood ie door used for closing the entrance (dho ot). Luo has all words for almost everything that our ancestors possessed only that the breaking away to different directions led to disappearance of some words or one item being called by different names in different dialects, yet those words mean different parts of that item.
I am Kenyan luo from Alego.
Such an amazing insight. I didn't really know that there's a difference between "dhot ot" and "thigo". I thought they were two different words with the same meaning
Yes! We say Ching/chinga in ugenya
Thigo is merely a shutter. The frame not included. It was wicker door made from a pliable plant called "Olando". It was tied with a rope to the last wall post before the opening (dhot, dho ot)on either side in the evening. In the day it was untied and rested on one of the walls. In other words thigo was mobile not fastened to any frame. In my part of Luoland, finger is " lith lwedo". Toe is " lith tieli". Lwedo is simply ✋.
Dhakona is broken Luo. Husband is "dichuo", "jaot, wuon par". My grandmother "Dana".
Iron roofed house is " od opanga".
We need a standardised Luo dictionary to help promote and develop our language further. Any linguists out there willing to undertake this project?
Well, let's hope someone will actually go for it
What about the Bible in Luo? I wonder if they have translated Bibles in Uganda.
More like a standardised written language.
this is very good idea bro, Im Luo man from mara Tanzania
Jonam's dholuo is typically Kenyan dholuo, infact all their words are ours.
I love this. Wow!
Yeah, surprisingly so. It was one of the best language interviews I've had
My grandmother originally hails from there, she is Jonam, unfortunately, I didn't get the chance to meet her
Nooo...all our words are theirs😅😅😅we came from those areas
Say, all our words are theirs. We came from there not the other round. 🙂🙂🙂
The lady is not very good at speakinJonam, but all the words are similar just that she doesn't know some of them. 95% are similar. Next time try to interview two people.
Ugandan luo is the original version of luo, otherwise thanks for this interview I'm not luo but I like the language and the people, they are true friends they don't pretend.if they like you they like you if they don't like you they will olways tell you straight in your eyes.
Thanks Michael, much love❤️. On this occassion we love you and we’re telling it to you straight 😅
That's one reason they might not rule Kenya, so sad honest is feared in Kenya. When you are honest people look like you're from Jupiter. That's why Kenyans say Hii ni Kenya to meaning no justice will be done hope for change only Luos can do that.
So you are not Luo but you know the original and copy versions of Luo? Crazy
@@sylusouma6231
I have encountered many Kenyans from other communities and foreigners who speak better Luo than I do.
@@michaelopere5424 if you learn some semantics and morphology, you will realize that there is nothing like a "correct" form of a language. What exists are dialects that are brought by environmental factors. A Dr taught me this in UoN.
You doing such an incredible job. I have SUBSCRIBED!!!! Love how the luo nation is all over Africa
Thank you Dan. Surprisingly luos are scattered allover East Africa
Am pastor Mike from uganda , a langi by tribe from northern uganda, I love how we share alot , we are one with kenyan , God bless you brother , next time I come to kenya I know I will be home
Hello man of God,
Yeah, surprisingly we have so much in common and, yes, you'll feel at home among the luo of Kenya 😊
hello servant of God. my opinion is that we are one African family only tht we were splited and forced to have these artificial boundaries by colonialists so tht they could easily steal our resources and they went to extent of destroying our culture and identity bt our God is great we are back to retrace our route and fix our ancient unity
Also found out that Luos used to count using base five, but they mixed it up later on. At 5 (abich) they start adding again. Abich+achiel= Abichel =Auchiel, Abich+Ariyo= Abiriyo, and so forth. At 9 its abich+angwen =Abingwen. Just like the Roman numerals, V=5 and then 6 is V+1= V1, and 7 is V11, 8 V111 and so on.
Excellent observation
Yeah, seems like 5 was the reference point
@@KPtravels001 and we lost Abi+dek which I later on learned is now Aboro.
In Siaya County ching (hand), lwedo (finger)
This is awesome 👍
When learning Dholuo, I came across the etymology of chiega, which is chiek (arouse or stimulate). Very disturbing but interesting. Dichuo is also chuoyo (poker) quite disturbing but factually correct . This is a very informative and interesting channel for those who love African languages, especially those in the diaspora.
Interesting
😅🤣🤣🤣 Please don`t read too much into stimulants and pokers
@@Infinity74856 Chiega + Chuora (very interesting, Kenyan Luos became more direct after Sudan)
@@Infinity74856 Actually I've been corrected- arousers +pokers!
Let me just read the comments here😊. Sina maoni
Man! this is amazing! It's so rare to watch a 30-minute video, but I just watched this, and it went so fast... This is great, I'm subscribing immediately!
Thank you so much Newton. It's fulfilling knowing how close we are to other tribes geographically away from us. I got so excited 😊. Thanks for the subscription and kindly share with your friends. Let's get all possible luos on board. Reunion starts with having the knowledge
Wow this is close. Jogo wacho mana dholuo
This is the most beautiful thing I have seen this year. I had no idea there were luos out there who literally spoke like me. Thank you so much. Love you guys to bits. I am a very proud kenyan luo lady from kisumo "kisumu" dala pacha. 16:43
Erokamano nyamera nyar odhus winam😀. I never knew too until last year(2022). And that's why I'm motivated to do this. I realized how ignorant were about luo history and knowledge. The schools lied to us. They didn't teach us true history. And that's why I take it as my responsibility to help educate the luo. Kindly subscribe and share my videos with your friends and family. The more luos we have here the better . Erokamano maduong' Nya kisumo
Thanks for the comparison I learnt a lot, Acholi from Agago , Uganda
Apwoyo Okidi. Kindly share my videos with friends and family. Let’s reach as many luos as possible
I'm proud to be a luo from Alur, junam, Acholic and luo from Kenya thank you Mr Peter
You're welcome Osbon. Help me reach more luos by sharing my channel
Wuo Ogot, what a great job you are doing. Let us give thanks to nyar Jonam for helping with translation too. Erokamano nyamera. Corrections;
1000 is "gana" in Luo proper. Roofing iron sheet is "opanga"
Hahahaha she did well. Chunye yom😀😀. Thanks for the correction. Though I think "alufu" and "mabati" are used more often. But I agree that "gana" and "opanga" are the ideal luo words
I think our language is dying slowly, we are losing some luo words to Swahili/English words eg opanga to mabati. And I'm worried that in the next 50yrs it'll be a fully eroded language. Our luo scholars should not let this happen please, come up with a Dholuo dictionary to guide the future generations.
I am not sure if “gana” and “opanga” are really dho luo words rather kishwahili and bantu adaptations…think about igana from the kikuyu and panga=metal=mabati. I am from Nairobi, Kenya born in Uganda, and my father drwas his origins from Kasipul.
This channel is really very interesting..Thanks my Luo bro for starting this Luo History Education channel. The Journey started in Bar El Gazel and ended up in Uganda, Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda, Congo-Kinshasa, Ethiopia, Central African Republic, Cameroon, Nigeria, Togo, Ghana, Gabon, and Equatorial Guinea. What a journey for we the Luo. Afoyo wun kpo/ceke/ciki/weng.
You're welcome. Kindly share my videos with your friends and family. I need more luos on board
From Taita Taveta here , appreciate this topic. Love you both, very genuine Kenyans
Jonam sounds more like the luo from siaya county than the rest of luo in Kenya. I realized there are words jo homabay don’t pronounce the same as the luo of siaya county and jonam
And Gloria’s skin is beautiful and glowing! She is a beauty to behold
Gloria's skin aside😉😉, could you give me an instance of a word that's pronounced differently between johomabay and Josiaya?
Faiza you are very right, the janam dholuo is the same as dholuo spoken in Siaya. An example dipo in Siaya the other luos ie central and South Nyanza say laro . There are quite a number
Ndalo - puodho
Odins - bando
Osirgoho- chieth gweno
Akut - aluro - the bird
@@TheNyahero those luo you are reffering to all originate from siaya. So whenbyou say they are different i am left perplex. The best i know is that all those wordings from central and southern also exist in siaya people. I think its just the choice of wordings to use
@@mjukuuwakwetu356 you are right but the that choosing of words is what make the difference example in Central Nyanza where I was brought up we call it dhoot while in my second home in Siaya we commonly call it thigo and this applies to many uncounted words but nonetheless all are dholuo
South Nyanza, Gem and Kisumu pronounce words in a similar manner. Ugenya, Alego and Imbo not only pronounce words very differently from the group mentioned above, but they are also different from themselves.
"Aluori" has more than one meaning (as per Tz luo) it depend on how you pronounce it.
1st - I fear you
2nd - "I have surrounded you'
Yes. Kenya luo&Tz luo is same tribe. So everything is 100% same across the border
Luo ke is thoroughly rich, if brought that to this present conversation would bring total confusing. For aluori would mean: I fear you
I give you respect
I surround you
Remember Luo ke & Tz migrated from different clans of luos collecting cultures and dialect from the same most of which they have kept, and use interchangeablelly eg dho ot= thigo, aora=kulo . The northern luos had their various clans staying pure ice in ug and SS. But all the same Luo is one apart from little influence.
Let's continue
@@okumuokelo4494 do you think the farther a group is from Bahr El Ghazal the more dilute the language is due to influence of the tribes they meet along the way?
@@KPtravels001 all Luos have borrowed from their neighbors. That is why, for example, we have an easier time understanding Jonam than Acholi. However, Luo's from our point of origin have neighbors that speak Languages that are related to Luo. The borrowing stays within closely related Nilotic family.
On the other hand, Luos who neighbor Bantus will borrow from their Bantu neighbors causing the language to drift further from its Nilotic origins. That is why Kenyan Luos from south nyanza wills say "Bando" for maize from "Chibando" in Kisii and "Marieba" for Cassava, also from Kisii.
@@vowuor oooh Jesus!!! It's starting to make more sense now😂
This is arguably the best research/ connection, and comparative study ever done that shows our deep connection and how the great migration ruined many culture, we need more of this, our deep connection should be done beyond East Africa.
Thank you. The journey of a thousand miles has started already
My brother and sister, am very grateful! Kettle did I know we are on pipo. Am japadhola thanks for the program
Thank you Purity. I had fun interviewing padhola in Tororo too. We Are One BIG LUO NATION
Kindly share my videos with other luos. Let’s reach out to all luos in the world if possible.
Wow 🤩 y’all language it the same like my language . I’m from shilluk or collo nyikang in South Sudan.
@Aduong, we'll come to you next 😂😂
Yea you guys are closely related...
@@KPtravels001 okay no problem I can’t wait.
They all came from South Sudan bro.
I think we need to come together and form a kingdom of all tribe related.
An Okumu jaLuo from Tanzania I'm currently in Uganda and I have managed to interact with luos even I have been at funeral in Padhola land I'm remote village we speak normally the slit difference is how some words are commonly being used but you find it's still the same. The only luo I found it difficult some I could get the 70% are Langi or lang'o . But Jo Alur, Jo Achol , Jo padhola, jo kumam and jonam 95- 99% I get them . Another difference I think Ugandan luo speak original words .
Wow! I found it very interesting to have brothers and sisters in Uganda and TZ. Am a Luo from Siaya County in Kenya.
Yup they speak the original luo
My home is Kisumu county but I'm currently in Europe. I'm always fascinated by the luo from my maternal grandma's side of Alego in Siaya. They speak deep luo vocaublaries like "ndalo" which we call "puodho". They might understand Jo nam even more. I always stay in Kyanja, Kampala during my annual leave. I'm now motivated to travel up North with Pakwach as the first visit and if safe ancestral lands of South Sudan in the near future. It feels so good to be around people you feel connected with. While here just meeting a Kenyan, Ugandan, or Tanzanian brings joy.
The lady is beautiful
Yeah, it is very surprising seeing how much we have in common despite being geographically apart for many years
Jonam sound like we Luos of Ugenya.Very educative video and now I'm drooling over the girl.Luos are trully beautiful.
Hahahaha pleeeeeeease 😂😂😂. Is it the video or girl? Anyway, I think I need to make a list of all the candidates and present to her for assessment
I like this let us unify all Luos together and develop the Luo Nation..There are 20million Luos in East and Central Africa..Fake tyranny of numbers will die
Hahahaha well it's possible to unite without politicizing 😂😂.
This is quite wonderful.Kindly KOgot let's liaise mondo wakonyre kodi e kaka waluongo some of the stuff in Luo....
Very very interesting.Keep it up!
Most interesting channel ever. Thank u so much brother Peter.
Thank you nyamera. Help me share it widely.
Great video and the similarities in the languages are great...basically one language with some differences in accent. In Acholi which is also one of the tribes that make up the Luo, we use mia acel.
Thanks Newton. I wonder how “mia” infiltrated almost all luo subtribes even though it’s a borrowed word
@@KPtravels001 that's quite surprising. Even Acholi say mwaka to mean year and kalam to mean pen
Piny obed yom nyamera 😂😂😂 kudos Luo Nation greetings from Kenya
@@cavineowaka6749 mwaka is from kiswahilli but proper Acoli word is oro. Kalam could be swahilli too, I will check on this.
Every words jonam said is literally my language anyuak
That means Anyuak is also very close to luo of Kenya 🤝
@@KPtravels001 yes Anyuak is also very similar to Dholuo of Kenya
Am kenyan Luo and am happy to know Luo nation is so wide a cross east africa
Wonderful
Am a jonam from Pakwach Distrust,along the River Nile, Uganda. In 2013 I had a chat at Whitesands Hotel, Mombasa, with Dr Okum, the CEO Centre for Corporate Governance. He was surprised we didn’t need interpreter to communicate.
So amazing bro I'm so proud to be a luo uganda we're all one family.
Thank you so much. We’re one big family. Please share my videos with your friends and family. I need all possible luos onboard
@@KPtravels001 asante bi Mia support bende
Bi Mia support
This is so informative, i have been to Pakwach and Panyimur i love our luo dialect....keep it up buddy .....ero kamano
Thank you Fredrick . I'm rejoining the dots
all these are interesting really thanks our brother for bringing us together through camparision thanks so much
You're welcome. A step at a time. I'm sad that I spent my entire childhood thinking that we [luo of Kenya &TZ] are the only luo in the world
This was mind blowing. I would love to make a trip like this one day!
Do it😊. It's amazing. A journey of self discovery
I am from Karachuonyo. I have enjoyed the presentation. I have been to Pader, Apach, Lira and also met people from Pandhola. Never have I found those that are closer to Luo in Kenya than Janam.
Some words like "chinge" which is fingers is also used in Ugenya.
God willing I may visit the place in the future.
Thank you so much. I also find Jonam the closest of all the Luo tribes. Please share this video with friends. Let's have all possible luos onboard
Iam from ugenya
Ugenya Luo clan in Kenya understand jonam very well because they belong to jokomolo
We all came from Gipiri and Labongo. So Labongo and his family went east of the Nile moving southwards and then Eastwards into Kenya. Therefore Gipiri and Labongo were the ancestral father's of all Luo . Gipiri and his family also crossed the river nile to the west side of pakwach and became ancestor of the present Alur of northwestern Uganda and the large
Population in northwestern DRC .
Their problem was about the spear ans rhe bead. So Labongo formed the Acholi , Japadhola and Kenya Lou. One of the man couldn't cross into kenya he had a wound on his leg he could work and he told the group i have dhola which is wound and remained behind and his group was called japadhola meaning poeple of the wound .
True. Gipiirs descendants were not permitted to cross to the east of the nile due to the curse at Wang Lee. Likewise Labongos followers were not allowed to cross to the west side of the nile. Gipiirs followers inter-married with the Lendu and Okebo people to produce Alur.
Well, some good articulation of history here. Betty and Odoch, could you both send me a private message? I need some clarification
I worked briefly in Jonam and was surprised when I travelled through Kisumu and heard people speak what sounded like Jonam. This is the comparison I was waiting for. Well done.
Mr Peter is doing great job uniting luo community alur,padhola,acholi,jonam,langi we luo in Kenya almost over 90% jonam language is the same and alur let's unite together as one community
Thank you so much 🙏. It my pleasure to be able to awaken the awareness of every single luo in every single country. Kindly share my videos with as many friends and family as possible.
Yes..! well done..!! Aciro [Gloria].. iloko/iweco ma ber adha-n-dha.. ma kwe.. [an Acoli trying hard to say something in the other (blood) dialect]..
Fantastic "mixing".. LUO LANGUAGES..
Luo (Kenya).. Acoli/Acholi.. Alur.. Jonam.. Japadhola.. Lango.. and many more..
Let's ALL [us LUO PEOPLES] get involved and intensify the "research" program..
Wonderfully.. wonderfully.. useful for the [our] youth & children..
Thank you...
OAO (= Oceng (Ochieng) Abonyo Oyugi) [Eng]
She's very eloquent 🤗
We also call hand ching in kenya
The love have seen everyone showing on the comment section as African we need to learn and put our own indigenous languages mainstream...cudnt know language cud bring kambasa ,luhyas and even Kikuyus on comment section where the language isn't even theirs but a different tribe massive unity
This is Soo similar keep doing this nilitic dialect comparisons hope u can go to Tanzania Nd do with them too
I could go to Tanzania but it's not necessary because luo of Kenya & TZ is one group. Same language, same dialect, same accent. To be honest, they even have relatives on both sides of the border and cross often to attend weddings, burials etc
@@KPtravels001 yeah it doesn't make sense
Keep this up im half kenyan luo but I don’t know luo but i yarn to learn i guess this is how i will learn so keep posting such videos
I have your back 😉😉
Donje uru echannel Na umia 200 subscriber Jo Luo mag Uganda gi Kenya gi Tanzania 🇰🇪🇺🇬🇹🇿,amoso Uwu gi Hera
I am a Nyaugenya & understood almost every word she said including chinga (lweta). The similarities are mind-boggling.
Yeah, Jonam is the closest to luo of Kenya
This is a great piece for Luo Nation 🙏
On behalf of everyone who participated, THANK YOU 🙏
Could you send me a private message? I want to inquire on how I can get copyright permission for some luo music 😊
Best interview very pofessional and is on another level
Thank you so much. We try to give our best
I believe you are right 'Mia' must have been a borrowed word from Kiswahili. In Ugenya the word 'chinga' is used. You are doing a good job. Use this forum to push for an integration of Luo speaking languages in all the African nations. Keep it up, wuod Luo. Nyasaye ogwedhi .
Dholuo should adopt the lost "Dak"
Try the nuer/dinka of south Sudan, I never knew we could be sharing so much together.
Are they really luos?
@@KPtravels001 not really but they're river lake nilotes and almost everything you were discussing is very similar to what the Nuer and dinka would say.
They are closely related to Luos. Nuer is much closer to Luos then Dinka is. It is said that Nuer once lived with the Luos in Southern Kodorfan before the Luo Moved to Bahr el Ghazal . Also that many nuer s were incorporated into Luo at some point.
They are very close to luos.. especially the nuer. But in this regard even Turkana is closer to luo than it appears. Words are different but within there is some common origin.
@@cls4786 very true compare Acholi dressing and Turkana very identical
You're doing an incredible job. I'm Luo from Homabay-kenya.
Adwoko erokamano nyamera. An Jahomabay an bende
Alaf liz umeolewa...nikutafte..
It's amazing, Kenya luo same us Acholi of Ug, waya(aunt), near(uncle), Kwara(my grand father), Dana/ada (grandma), etc, thanks bro for d show
Yeah, I often feel so thrilled to have the reality (of how close we're) reveal itself before my eyes.
Hey am Japadhola try we please much love
I love all luo blood were ever you are , and I wish if we can establish a connection and learn more and more . Am an Acholi of northern Uganda in Gulu.
A connection has started already 😉😉
This is so nice,i've learnt alot.keep it up and mosnwa owete gi nyiminewa go te,much love.
Thank you so much Belinda. Kindly share with your friends and let's get every luo on board
I'll also pass the greetings to every luo group(s) I meet
Very clear for us, we are watching it with my villagers and my children & for educating our Luo children in Gambella , Ethiopia. Dho Luo mar Kenya ki (gi) Dhi Jonam Achiel ki Dha Anywaa ( Dhok marwa).
Wooow, this comment got me. I’m happy to be impacting the lives of the luo children in Gambella. Hopefully I’ll meet some of them when I come over for the Anywaa/Anyuak interview
@@KPtravels001
Ina pwøc (Erokamano).
Long before Dr Livingstone and Speke investigate the source of the Nile (by following the River Nile), they were preceded by the Luo who gave themselves the name Lwo (which means "follow") due to following the Nile. As a result the Lwo beat the Wazungus to the lake (lake Victoria)
Ofcourse the colonialists’ version of “discovering Nam Lolwe” is hogwash. Every African tribe around the lake knew the lake before the arrival of the wazungu
I am a language enthusiast and passion about languages: I speak 6 languages but still want to learn more languages..
Dreams are valid 😍
I'm Kisii and enjoying this so much...i think much more because of her, she's very pretty for sure!! All in all, i love you my brothers and sisters.❤❤❤
hahaha focus boychild 🤣🤣
Anyway thanks so much omonto minto
Lol😅😅
your name Matara - does it have a meaning?
The Luo of Sakwa - Siaya County might want to know!
Please reduce the volume of the background music so that we can hear you clearly without undue interference.
Alright.
It's really nice showing how wonderful the luo people are. But i think he's mainly focused on specific countries cuz we know that another large luo group is the Balanda boor and the Chilluk of S.Sudan which he's been forgetting in all his videos which is really sad in some way 😢
I haven't forgotten brother. South Sudan was at war when I wanted to come and I was told to wait until everything is settled.
Actually "Chinga" is Kenyan Luo used in Alego/Ugenya/Gem/Yimbo. That is the real Luo word used by most Luos in Uganda and Sudan
Thanks. I think I'm a little ignorant about luo dialect of Alego
@@KPtravels001 not just Alego. Alego, Ugenya, Gem, and Yimbo make up almost a third of Luo land. One out of 3 Luos in Kenya talk this way ...
'Lwet' is 'finger nails'
@@Julesamon in which dialect? It is clear that there is no universally “correct” usage.
@@Julesamon kogno oe kok is finger nail.lwet is hand.
Jonam are actually Jo Alego and ugenya even the dialect
Yes, it was much easier to converse with them
Very true... I'm from Alego and I can relate.
Am aluo from kenya i like how our luo's in Uganda pronounced their words
Yeah, I was amazed too
Peana microphone na adabu bana😂, I think it good to focus on the interviewee when talking to them, otherwise very good insights.🎉🎉🎉
Hahahaha focus is on the camera not the girl 😂😂
Omera am so happy, I was in pakwach 2009, and I could hear dholuo being spoken next go in for luo wau or shluku of South sudan at gambella border of Ethiopia and s.sudan.
I’m happy too to be part of this. The luo of Ethiopia are next
Am very happy to see my luo people from Uganda,much love 😘.
They are obviously happy to see you too😉😉
Why don't you come to luo of Gambella Ethiopia one day?
I will. I've just finished with luo if Uganda so definitely I'll be in Ethiopia sooner than you imagine
Ethiopia has luos, sikua najua...
@JERRY COLLINS OMONDI very intriguing...kwa hivyo Luis wamesambaa kote.... lakini Ethiopia aiii, walifika uko aje, alaf lugha yao wakenya wanaweza elewa...
@JERRY COLLINS OMONDI incredible...
Wow!!!!....is the "joNam" the twin sibling with whom the Southern Lwo of Kenya separated!!!! Note: the Kenya Luo often refer to themselves in the same word ," JONAM or singularly " JANAM"
Well, this is the closest I ever felt. I had a field day among Jonam. I had free conversations in luo
Nimefurahi Sana wajaluo wa TANZANIA we are the original one tuko sawasawa na wajaluo wa Kenya hata Uganda MUNGU AWABARIKI KWA KUUNGANISHA Wajaluo wote
Wow am a luyha but i had to watch to the end, i love to see that we have part of us in uganda, i felt the culture from here, i would love to travel there, thank you so much
Thank you so much. It was amazing finding out that these people exist
All western tribes in western kenya are ìn Eastern uganda, eg iteso ,turkan,samia,saboti,gisu/bukusu,aluru,luos japadhola,wahayo
Very informative and educative
Glad it was helpful! Kindly share with your friends and family. I need more luos here.
Great similarities, but to me the Pakwach's dialect blends well with that of Ugenya and Alego.
More than South Nyanza? I think it blends with both South and Central Nyanza luo
@@KPtravels001 central Nyanza yes, most Pakwach's words are similar to thier dialects and, their tongue is much faster than southerners... yaani gi rudho wach.
@@anderikusjuadi hahahaha are you from the South or Central?
fingers- Ching/lweti,is the true luo words.hand- bat
You are right very close to Alego and Ugenya
I am luo of Ethiopia called Anywaa. You speak my language. I can clearly understand you. Specially the number counting of Jonam.
I’m coming for you next😂
Another nyar luo in the house, very close to luo kenya,❤❤
So close! Closer than I ever imagined😊
I have really enjoyed the show. You have done it well. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you
Oh my goodness,I love this,I have been thinking that the closest Luo Language in Uganda is Luo padhola,oh my goodness little did I know Luo Jonam is the closest,I am Kenyan Luo and I think she speaks closer Luo to that we speak in Kenya.
No, you have been wrong all along 😂😂
I'm a luo of Kager and we use both Lweta and Chinga for my hand.
Yeah, sound like both are used among the luo of Kenya. Unfortunately, I didn’t about “ching” before the making of these videos
Awesome work👍👏👌
Thank you so much
we in ugenya understand the lady very well
I bet so. I still feel Jonam is the closest to Kenyan luo more than all but you probably understand her more than me😀
Yes 👍
Kp, thanks for these series. Really eye opening, pls in your research try to find out why Luo of Kenya is 90%+ mutually intelligible to Dho Jonam and also very close to Padhola, but differ slightly to other Luo languages and some highly. Is it because of the migration patterns or time period of separations?. This is one area I would like to have a clear view on.
It has something to do with the migration patterns.
Majority of people who moved to Kenya were from the Jonam group
@@KPtravels001 I see
@@georgetacful it's alleged that luo of Kenya are a cocktail of different luo tribes
There were several groups of Luo during the migration period and even prior to migration
Thank you Kogot for the very good job you are doing. When i first watched this episode with Gloria the views weren't much and neither were the comments. Now that i interact with both the video and the very many comments i realize i've never come across something on youtube that has broadened my mind, my view and outlook on language like your videos Kogot. This is the exact definition of opening a can of worms. That's because i'm now so inquisitive regarding this subject and the inquisitiveness only leads to another chain of inquisitiveness. I'm now asking the same question you asked Kogot, i.e is it possible the further away Luos moved from Bahr Ghazal the more the language altered? How for example do you explain this very slight difference between Jonam and Kenyan Luo? While on that same question i've to also take into account the Padhola episode which is also close but not as close as this one with Jonam.This episode with Gloria nyar jonam and her family is so interesting you'd be forgiven to think Gloria lied to us she's from Uganda and not from Kenya. Even the behaviour, the commitment, the excitement, the genuineness, the high spirits etc is so Luo. When she said chunya yoma yoma, acam/ acham ayieng' i was like what was that? I'd be lying to say i don't understand what those two statements mean even if that's not how i would talk. Honestly I don't know how many times i've replayed this particular episode. It's quite an interesting one and i'm sure it was even for you Kogot. Youu realize the difference is so negligible that if the two of you didn't have an intermediary language English then without much struggle would actually converse and understand one another. How i wish UA-cam had an option of liking a video a thousand times. This would be it. Miwa paybill ja homabay. Kogot your work needs support however little, but in the meantime jaluo mora mora maneno video oher to ochwal ne nyawadgi. Afuoyo/Apuoyo
From my interactions with the luo, I deduce that Joka Jok were Acholi, Joka Owiny were padhola, while Joka Omollo were Jonam (and Alur in general).
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I agree with you I speak luo kenya, I speak adhola luo, I speak some kumam but I can categorically say jonam and Luo Kenya are closest...yet they aren't neighbours geographically.
Yeah, I had a field day in Pakwach, Northern Uganda. I had natural conversations on the road and in shops and restaurants without being noticed as a foreigner.
Justo is on point. I have noticed that the interviewer is form Southern or Central Nyanza and therefore what he refers to as Kenya Luo is actually not representing Northern Luo (Siaya). Siaya Luo agrees more with Jonam Luo than is the case with Southern Luo. This then mean that since Siaya is closer to Uganda, they have similar words unlike those who travelled down South who lost the meanings of words. For instance, THIGO is the real door which is swung to open or close the entrance. DHO-OT the opening of the house, i.e. the 'mouth' of the house. Kenyans from the South Nyanza have a lot to learn from Siaya.
That’s true Alex. I feel South Nyanza have lost bit of the language
@@KPtravels001 south nyanza are majorly suba who have also lost a language and culture.
@@GodfreyAirado you know Suba population is pretty small? Read more about Southern Nyanza Luos
I'm Kumam from Uganda, My language will have a mix of both Ateso/K'jong & Luo dialects. So was literally picking everything that you guys were saying. Lwet means fingernails.
Thanks for clarifying this. I feel like I need a second video with the Kumam to explore their history
I thought lwet is the arm while fingernails are 'kogno/koke'🤭
@@dorineawino7449 fingernail = kok/ kogno, hand = lwed/ lwedo/ ching, arm = bad ( luo from Kenya)
@@dorineawino7449arm is bat. Lwedo is hand. Finger lith lwedo or ching in Ugenya/Alego
Chinga is a variant from Alego, Ugenya, quite different from lwedo used in south nyanza. This is interesting and good job my brother.
Thanks for the info! And I’m glad you like what I do😊
@Kp travels .... Dear Peter,,, am having a suggestion that work on a mega Luo/Lwo dictionary that consists of words from all the Luo ethnic groups from Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, Congo, S. Sudan, Sudan and Ethiopia ..... Then can be circulated accross..
That's a good suggestion. But that needs a dedicated budget. I'll consider it in the future
The Luo groups speak similar dialects but because of migration and dispersal to different locations and directions, this made them to mingle with other societies which were not Luos. Hence giving birth to mixed races .e.g the Luo of Kenya mixed the wasamia group around Nyanza province. However, the indignant Luo words key vocabularies still remain undiluted,/ untempered with.,,,👍👍👍😍💞
Yeah the separation might have led to differences in some vocabulary
United n intermarriage with kisii,samia,and wanga, people in mumiasi thats why u hear names like ousi,okumu,ouma,akinyi odyek,Owir,Awori,oparanya etc
Mostly bantu people we don't commonly use the word O in names
The Luo of Kenya today is highly spoken in contracted form
I agree. And Swahili words obviously cropping in
It's so amazing but as I can see the originality of luos came from south Sudan and moved to Uganda and settled in Kenya 🇰🇪 the boundaries of colonists who made a part the brotherness but in real sense they're the same I love the luo people
Luo is one big nation. Bigger than we imagined
Beautiful people,I just subscribed and shared enough
Thank you so much. A journey of a 1000 miles has just started
This was amazing! I understood everything they were saying.
Because you are their sister 😜
But I have a feeling, people of South nyanza have an accent that isn't shared with people from Alego and Ugenya. We tend to use contractions more, like, 'kiny nabi' , in South nyanza, 'Abiro kiny'
And who is "we" in your sentence?
@@KPtravels001 Ooh, sorry, I meant majority of Ugenya, especially young guys.
Kiny nabi would come from one who is passing a message. While abiro kiny comes from someone who's been made to respond to question. Am jalego born in S. Nyanza
@@okumuokelo4494 hahahaha I'm loving this. Your grammatical analysis of the luo language is amazing. "Kiny nabi" is a sentence while "abiro kiny" is a response to a question
@@maasaimaasai2895 great. I just wanted to know if the "we" is Acholi, Alur etc.
It's high time we form Luo kingdom we are one, I wish our ancestors could have in one place.
Yeah, we're heading there🤗
I feel you, the colonial borders did us dirty. We can start by forming cross border Luo organisations then keep making small progress.
Not a kingdom but a nation. A Luo nation. A kingdom requires a geographical location complete with a king/queen. A nation, on the other hand, knows no geographical bounds and is all in the hearts and minds of the people.
@@georgeodhiambo598 Omondi's proposal is a Luo Nation with our own governance and teritory. We can curve out this from the current nations/countries we live in, that I support. Hearts and mind is a little vague
@@peterobila1243 I know that and that's what I was responding to. There is a difference between a nation on the one hand, and a country and its variants on the other. A nation is created out of a strong sense of belonging to a group of people. It does not even require the existence of a country into which people are "forced" to exist under coercive powers of a state. A nation is built out of a bond to which people willingly and joyfully become a part of because they believe in it.
In this day and age, it is very easy to trace and find people with whom you share common and binding interests to create a nation without the concurrence of any coercive state power. Neither a coercive state power in the existing countries nor a some coercive state power associated with the nation to be created out of the lost but found new interactions of a people. The more I read about the current situation and physical disparity and dispersion of who are natural members of the Luo Nation, the more I realize that the first step is to create networks for building the "nation" rather than seeking a physical "country" first. There are communities that fall under the Luo Nation in Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, Sudan, Ethiopia, DRC, Chad, etc. Others have suggested that some are even traceable in West Africa (Cameroun, Senegal, Nigeria, etc). It is unimaginable how a geographical country or kingdom could be established under those spaces currently occupied by the various Luo Nation units. But it is very easy to build the necessary bonds of nationhood without regard to the geographical space one may find himself in. The future of nationhood will be found in cyberspace. Geographical space will be a secondary issue.
Luos, in its wider sense have a factor which is both a strength and a weakness. Together they are many, actually very many. But they are also highly dispersed. Being dispersed makes them a minority in the many countries over which they are spread. So the greatest benefit will be realized when they turn their wide dispersion into a strength rather than a weakness. Nationhood is a heart and mind matter. It is an emotional thing. A feeling thing.
Remember that the Jews survived and indeed thrived two thousand years of nationhood without a country/state of their own. They created their sense of purpose around the Jewish Nation and made their presence be felt. Luos are better off because although they are dispersed, the various branches all have ancestral land wherever they are settled.
Ching' is also used in Kenya to mean lwedo. Apart from ochiko, abung'wen and ongachiel are also used for 9 but considered archaic.
Yeah, I think I haven't the Kenyan luo as much as I thought because I never heard anyone use this word
@@KPtravels001 mostly uswd by jo ugenya
@@KPtravels001 aching' means aluedo
Jo luo ma ugenya be luongo fingers ni chingi.
@@KPtravels001 kel nyathino kisumu.
I'm Luo from Ethiopia Anywaa, I can hear you really... and I have good video.. how can I send it to you..
Luo is one.
God will unit us all of us one day ❤️.
Thanks so much Opara. Kindly send me a private message on email or Facebook and I'll direct you how to send me the video
Very interesting!!!!!
Thank you. Kindly share with friends and family. We need as many luos here as possible
I now confirm that the South Nyanza Luos actually lack luo Vocabulary. North Nyanza Luos actually have "CHING" as a word for lwedo as well. People from Siaya will tel you that "LWEDO" is more of the whole hand. Fingers + Palm + all the way to elbow. CHING is more of fingers + (maybe the palm) only. So yes CHING is luo. These are vocabs that when I speak with South Nyanzans, they think I am speaking Luhya. Kumbe they are the original words.
Then what will one say about "lith luedo or lith lueti" am in TZ.
Exactly, I've always told some of them but they seem adamant.!!
@@francisgendo7297 that's top of the finger
I mean tip
Hahaha luhya is luhya😂.
Genetically , Jonam/ Alur are closest to Joluo of Kenya than all the other luo groups - Woods et al 2005
I would need to read more on this😊😊. I'm not sure if I should trust it
Woods who et al. Also who is the publisher?
Genetics and language are two different things. If it was linguistically then that would make sense.
Could you have a link to that publication I am very much interested
Padhola, but remember kenya luo has all clans, acholi,even karamojong.
God bless. the Luo nation
May it be so
Good job bro, we are all one
Thank you. Kindly help me share widely
Nice video but the background audio was too loud especially when she was speaking
Yeah many people have said that. Do you if it's possible to remove it while the video stays on UA-cam?