Hey Eddie I just wanted to thank you for this great install video! It helped me prep for the install and made the actual installation a piece of cake. I really appreciate the effort you put into this and ALL your videos. So professional and such a great help! Thanks again and please keep the amazing videos coming my brother!
I love this video. This is one of the most accurate depictions of how any install I attempt goes. You meet a challenge at every step and it never goes as planned.
Just ordered mine. Almost made the mistake of getting some body mounted sliders. These are a good price for frame mounted. Thanks for the install video. Hopefully I dont have to move those washers but if I do I now know how to fix the problem as well as the torque specs. Another great video!
I like LoD stuff. I had their front bumper on my JK for 7 yrs. the finish held up well and it was a very strong bumper. I have been looking at their sliders too. They look great and seem to go on pretty easy...
I’m installing different sliders on a Gladiator and have to remove the body bolts to install. It’s been an incredible amount of effort to remove them without snapping one due to the loctite. Seeing you just spin them loose made me super jealous. My stubby Milwaukee doesn’t have enough so it’s 100 times back and forth with a socket wrench.
Oh my god, when you opened that, I thought it was a rats nest or something! LoD is one hell of a brand though, I love their products. I installed a rocker guard similar to that on my TJ. My factory Rubicon rocker panel was bending up the body and actually made a significant crease. Not noticeable, very small, but installing some frame mounted ones sure helped. Hoping to get a JL Rubicon soon. Your guys' videos motivate me to keep building my tj! Thanks and keep up the good work!
I have these same rockers on my JK..I had to drill and tap new holes. Looks like they made install a lot more simple!!! Thank goodness...mine was a pain
A good company always cares about their packaging...I deal with a lot of manufacturers and its amazing how many will ship 100k worth of material in cardboard versus plywood crates
Just discovered your channel yesterday. LOVE IT! You actually post mistakes, issues, etc. That's awesome for us. I'm thinking of buying my first Jeep so I have a few questions. 1. How much in after market products do you think you've spent? 2. Any strategies for saving gas. I read they are guzzlers. 3. Are you a mechanic? You have a huge garage and many vehicles. I am horrible with this sort of stuff and it makes to nervous to buy and install parts.
Glad you found our channel! I you haven't done so already, we'd be grateful if you could please subscribe to it. Regarding your questions: 1. We've done a lot since posting this video and where we're at now would probably set you back about $15k or more. 2. Stick with factory size tires and run all terrain tires or street type tires. The bigger you go the more you'll burn and the more aggressive the tread, the more rolling resistance you'll have as well. 3. I am not a mechanic but I have been working on Jeeps for well over 20 years. Like you, I once was new to all this stuff and you only learn by doing.
Do you have pinch seam covers installed? In the install portion of the video I see bare white on the pinch seam but at the end it looks like it's covered up with a black pinch seam cover.
wayalife.com/showthread.php/54558-BLACKED-OUT-JL-Wrangler-Pinch-Seams I was wondering the same. And then I found this article they posted. They used black vinyl.
I personally would leave the decorative plates off. Looks like they would hold mud and rocks that might fly out on the highway and break someone’s windshield. Great video. Thanks for sharing.
Wow! easy install!! They look great. Pro Tip: When you are pushing your ratchet you might want to keep your hand open and push with your palm and without closing your fist around it. That way incase the ratchet slips you won't kill your knuckles! ;-)
Just found your channel ( can’t stop watching your content). Really looking to getting into a jeep JL 2 door wrangler with a soft top ( like the ability to remove the rear windows and not the entire top in order to give my dogs access to some wind). I’m switching from my vw vanagon ( time for 4WD) . My current dilema is the only roof rack that has seriously caught my attanetion has been the LOD destroyer sliding rack. I’ve noticed they don’t make these for the 2 door and I am wondering if you know if a similar roof rack exist.
Time will tell for sure. I'm guessing they do it this way now because so many people like to color match the trim to the body of their Jeep. Fortunately, most of the hits we see are either on the very bottom of the sliders or directly on the side of them. Either way, if we jack them up, you'll be sure to see it here on this channel :)
Sorry, just re-read your post and a bit more carefully this time and what I can tell you is that they'll hold up about as well as the factory bolts have held up on our JK. Over the last 11+ years, they've taken a beating and I have had to file the sides of the bolts down to make them usable but, they are still usable. A couple are just now getting thin enough that I'll most likely replace them but, that is after a lot of abuse. Needless to say, I'm not too worried about them.
Great video. Just a couple comments: 1) it shouldn't be necessary to loosen the body bolt. I had trouble getting the sliders on over the body bolt washers, but I called LoD and they advised rocking the sliders back and forth and it worked. Those big body bolts are very hard to loosen and can break if you're not very careful. 2) This is WAY easier to do with two people.
If you say so. I may just be new to all this Jeep stuff but I'm pretty sure I tried just about everything prior to loosening up the body mount bolts. That being said, a second set of hands will always make any install a lot easier.
Haha. I'm sure you're right. Just wanted to point out to noobs like me that rocking it would be something to try before committing to loosening those bolts.
I wondered if just a very slight turn on the bolt and then a prybar to move the washer into position might work. Breaking that bolt scares me, as I would hate to have to start cutting holes in my new Jeep.
Holy shit. The new design of the frame rail and body mounts allowed for a 100% bolt-on installation. JL strikes again as being exceptionally mod-friendly. EDIT: I didn't wait for the passenger side...so 99% bolt-on. lol
LOL!! Technically, you don't really need that one bolt on the passenger side - well, unless you know you'll be beating on these sliders like I know we well. :)
Nice Install, they look good. I noticed on toward the end of you video that it looks like you painted the along pinch seam black and filled the holes in with painted bolts. Nice Finishing touch! Great Video.
Love your videos (&jl) sooo much! I sure hope all of that packaging crap at the beginning is biodegradable. Sheesh! 😄👍 Getting the materials to build your DIY top hoist for my Willys today...wish me luck! 🙂
I'm running 3.5" lift with 37' tires. I'm thinking the right combo would be a 4" lift with 37" tires for no rubbing on the rear seam. Great videos btw. I must say your way ahead of the game than all these other UA-camr's. I enjoy watching the JK Experience. Did you hire professional camera guy when making all the videos or did you do all that yourself?
I like that you really know your shit when it comes to the Jeeps. Harris said it right, I'll watch your video before buying anything because you have already tested the products and explain what works vs. what doesn't.
If you're referring to the plastic fender liner, I just used a heat gun to reshape it. So happy to hear you enjoy our videos too. Cindy, my wife, she does all the filming and editing.
They look good! I recently installed a bumper that required some drilling and was victim of hot sharp shrapnel metal pieces as well so i know your pain haha!
Two questions< 1. can you complete the installation without drilling the chassis? 2. Is there enough space on top of the slider to step on it? (you kindda mention it but I cannot see if it is a tight fit or enough to step on) Would like to add if snow will accumulate on top as to prevent you from stepping on them. Thanks
You don't have to drill all the holes like I show in the video but it is helpful to do the ones I show. Yes, there is enough space on top to use these as a step. Granted, it's not a big step but I used them all the time to do things like wipe down the top of the roof when washing my Jeep. I have not had issues with snow accumulating on top or at least, enough to be a problem.
Eddie, I installed LoD Signature Rock rails today. Thank you for your video. Followed your guidance and made the whole process much easier. The instructions for LoD leave something to be desired. I notice in your after photos that you have a black trim piece on the exposed pinch seam. What is that? Is that another piece that can be installed? Did you paint it? Looks great. I would like to do the same. Please let me know what you used. Thanks. Really appreciate your channel and all of your guidance.
So glad to hear our video was helpful to you. The black trim was just some black vinyl. You can buy it on a roll on Amazon. However, I have painted the trim on my white JK and it worked out great too.
Great video the LOD rocker guards look beefy. Your trans cross member looks a little beat up not as bad as LiteBrites JL but im sure you will be doing a replacement video in the near future.
For the 3 body bolts on each side...are they all the same part number? (Looking to buy extras). The body bolts closer to the front of the vehicle seem different than the rest. Was wondering if you knew
Hey Eddie, thanks for a great video. Can you do a pro and con between these LOD sliders and the Evo ones you have now. I'm trying to decide between the two. Thanks
I might be able to do that but I can tell you that both are good rock sliders. The EVO's sit higher up and that's a good thing but they're a lot more work to install and you have to drill into the body. The LOD's sit lower but they do mount onto the frame and are easier to install.
For one, no, it will not. For two, it would actually INCREASE the chance of doing damage to your rocker panels. At least, that's what I have seen on the JK over the last 10 years. The problem is, the body mounts on the JL are isolators, not pucks like they were back in the TJ days and they allow for a significant amount of movement. Big hits to frame mounted rocker guards would cause them to impact the Rubicon guards and that in turn would still cause them to contact the body. But again, that's just what I've seen.
@@wayalife o.k. I was just curious. I own neither a JK or JL but plan to in the near future. BTW I own a 1992 YJ that I bought new and still use it as a daily driver. (327,000 miles). For the most part, it's still stock except for 31" tires and used engine. Someday I would like to modify it and make it more off-road worthy when I get another jeep.
Sounds like none of what you've been seeing comes from FCA. I'm using their specs that I got from them and have posted here on my forum jlwrangler.com/showthread.php?1167-TORQUE-SPECS-JL-WRANGLER-Reference-Guide&p=12862&posted=1#post12862
Great video! I'm going to assume that all of the OEM bolts on the JL are metric. Why do aftermarket vendors insist on using SAE hardware? It's annoying!
Eddie, what are your thoughts on 'rock sliders' that mount to the large body bolts? I purchased the JCR sliders and found that they mount to two of the three body bolts on each side of my gladiator. I'm super nervous about messing with those bolts. I've read too many scary stories about them not being heated properly before removal ect... Did I make a mistake?? I have held off from installing so far. I plan to go to the jeep dealer to do it.
Not really. They're just rock sliders. If the bolts come loose, I'll make sure to tighten them up a bit more. If it becomes an ongoing thing, I'll consider using some loctite at that time but from past experience running rocker guards like this, it hasn't been an issue.
First off, I love your videos and I find them very informative. I was wondering about the pinch seam. The factory rockguards seem to close them somewhat to the elements, so I was thinking if adding a cover of some sorts along the seam would be good to cover against possible rust forming? I live in Iceland and I will be doing quite a bit of driving in snow and on glacial mountain trails, the air will be salty near the coastline (obviously) so having that exposed seam would not be good if it opens the car to rusting.
Actually, I've always found the factory rocker guards catch rocks and mud that sit in between the two. In fact, you can see some of it in this video and that's after me trying my hardest to hose it out. If anything, I think you'd be better off without it on. With that said, if you look at the last scenes of this video, the pinch seams are black. I applied a strip of vinyl wrap along the edge and folded it up the back side. If you shrink it in place with a heat gun, it'll give a good seal and that might help you out.
What I can tell you is that they'll hold up about as well as the factory bolts have held up on our JK. Over the last 11+ years, they've taken a beating and I have had to file the sides of the bolts down to make them usable but, they are still usable. A couple are just now getting thin enough that I'll most likely replace them but, that is after a lot of abuse. Needless to say, I'm not too worried about them. As far as getting hung up goes, they shouldn't any more than the transfer case skid bar.
Great video as always. Did you happen to see the Ace Engineering ones? I bought some for my wife’s JL but I like that this install doesn’t require totally removing the body mount bolts. Any thoughts on an install that requires removing the body bolts vs this type of install?
Unfortunately, I have no experience with their sliders and don't really know how they bolt up. That being said, I would think that removing the body mount bolts shouldn't be an issue so long as you tighten them back to torque spec. As far as the sliders go, so long as most of the load is being supported by the frame, you should be good there as well.
Edie! Amazing video thanks for the instructions. Can you please share what you used to cover the body seam? Looks like you have some sort of black body seam cover.. Not sure if you purchased that separately or it came with the sliders?? Also do you think these will work with the Ecodiesel Rubicon? Thanks in advance and greetings from Arizona :D
I'm not sure what you're referring to. Aside from a skid for the oil pan and transmission coolers, the JL comes with a gas tank skid and one for the transfer case and right from the factory. The ones on my 11 year old JK have held up well.
Wayalife I was watching the Lite Brite channel. Just like the factory sliders and skids, they don’t seem to hold up to real world heavy duty use. So more heavy duty sliders and bottom skids seems like it is needed. ua-cam.com/video/vRVjzcTUnNo/v-deo.html
Apparently, you haven't watched any of the non JL videos we've posted over the last 10 years. Perhaps you should as in them, you will see the kind of wheeling we've done with FACTORY skid plates. Sure they're a bit beat up now but to suggest something more heavy duty is "needed" is a bit of a stretch or at least, to me anyway.
@@wayalife Thats good to hear. Thanks for sharing your experience! I think ill skip them too. The passenger side optional hole specifically calls out for off road use, but not the two extra self tappers. Did not seem like a good idea to unnecessarily drill through the seam weld of the frame for those guys, so ill skip it.
I noticed you vinyl wrapped the bottom portion, I think that’s so smart. I am 100% going to order these sliders, how have they held up since having them and using them?
The sliders hold up well and do a great job of protecting your Jeep. That said, if you play on really tough rocks, the bolts and facia plates will get beat up. Not that big of a deal but something to be aware of.
Whats your opinion on the Aires or Rock Ridge powered side steps? I currently have them on my rubicon just for ease of use when getting in, and for my parents to also make it just that more easier on my 2 inch lifted JL Rubi with 37's
Clearly, you bought them to satisfy a need and unless there's something about them that you're not happy with, it shouldn't matter what I might think of them.
Eddie, great video. I’m installing mine as soon as they show up. A few questions: Did you worry about breaking the body mount bolts? Plenty of videos to indicate that may be an issue. Name/manufacturer the touch up paint you use. Amazon? Right angle drill - manufacturer - model. Keep up the great videos.
Not sure what people have been doing to break body mount bolts but as you can see in this video, I had no issues. The touch up paint I use is amzn.to/2Y67iVM The right angle drill is an old Harbor Freight air drill I got maybe 20 years ago. I would recommend something more like this now. amzn.to/2Nb3HF3
Appreciate your videos so much. How important would you say that hole you had to drill on the passenger side is? For now these will primarily be a step for my wife, I just feel like I might as well get something good on there the first time to future-proof it.
Great video. Have the same rails coming next week. I too have a white jlur and the pinch seems have to be covered up. How is the vinyl holding up? From one shot it looked like you wrapped a screw also or was it black? If you have a vid of installing the vinyl I would love to see. I have also found black metal strips that screw on to cover the area for around $85. Considered plastic dip too.
Another great vid. My first impression here is that the Rubicon sliders are much more fragile than I had originally thought. I'm not planning to do any rock crawling so I bought a set of Roam Offroad's Armor Sidesteps. From what you've shown me, these side steps actually look like better protection than the Rubicon rock rails. Of course they aren't even close to the protection offered by the LoDs. Speaking of the LoDs. I'm curious to see how well those allen key'ed screws hold up when they get scraped across the rocks. Will they shear off at all?
The side trim is more cosmetic than anything. You could easily remove them for serious play or replace them if they get too beat up. Most trail hits happen directly underneath or on the side so it shouldn't be too much of a problem. That being said, if we jack ours up, you can be sure to see it here on this channel :)
I'm not a fan of skid plate systems as they tend to be way too big, way too heavy, retain way too much heat and make it difficult to service your Jeep or at least, not without having to do a lot of work first. If the bolt heads get jacked up, they're near impossible to remove too. This is all from first hand experience and dealing with other peoples Jeeps over the years. For me, I have found the factory skids to be more than adequate. Sure, they get beat up but I have yet to have one fail on me on any of the 4 JK's I've owned and over the last 11+ years. What I do want is some kind of protection for the transmission if only because the cooler lines are so exposed - that is a real problem for me. Oil pan protection would be nice too but not as critical.
Finally, someone that cleans the vehicle before installing a new part...
They look Awesome! Gonna order me a set you sold me on them.
I really think you'll be very happy with them.
I don't own a jeep yet. Planning to get on for my 60th birthday. In the meantime I come to watch your Awsome Videos !
Awesome :)
Hey Eddie I just wanted to thank you for this great install video! It helped me prep for the install and made the actual installation a piece of cake. I really appreciate the effort you put into this and ALL your videos. So professional and such a great help! Thanks again and please keep the amazing videos coming my brother!
Kirk Wohler awesome - so glad to hear it 😎
I love this video. This is one of the most accurate depictions of how any install I attempt goes. You meet a challenge at every step and it never goes as planned.
Awesome! So glad you found our video to be informative 😎
This may be the best DIY video ever made.
Truly humbled that you would say as much, thank you.
Such a helpful video, clear and well done. And I love how your music is easy on the ears, cheers!
Glad it was helpful!
Just ordered mine. Almost made the mistake of getting some body mounted sliders. These are a good price for frame mounted. Thanks for the install video. Hopefully I dont have to move those washers but if I do I now know how to fix the problem as well as the torque specs. Another great video!
Happy to know that our video was helpful to you 😎
You make it look so easy in most of your videos. Glad to see that you are human after all!
LOL - nobody's perfect 😁
More than anything I'm jealous of the size of your garage and all the tools in it!!!!!!
LOL - to be fair, it's taken a long time to get this garage and the tools inside of it.
I installed these as my first mod. Took me about 2 hrs by my self. They are Tough tough tough ! And a nice little step for shorty.
Did you have to drill too?
Great video. I am waiting for my LoD JL sliders to be delivered, and when they are I’ll use this video for the install. Educational AND entertaining!
Awesome, glad that we could be of help :)
You’re very professional. Great videos and content.
Thank you, we're glad to hear you enjoy our videos.
After deciding these are what I wanted from seeing this video, I re-watched it to assist with the install. Thanks for the help!
Awesome! So glad to hear that our video was helpful to you :)
Great timing. I'm waiting on my LOD bumpers and rock sliders to arrive this week. Thanks for the tutorial, should makes things go easier.
Glad to hear our video will be able to help you out :)
Best JL channel on you tube by far
Thank you, we're truly flattered that you say as much.
I like LoD stuff. I had their front bumper on my JK for 7 yrs. the finish held up well and it was a very strong bumper. I have been looking at their sliders too. They look great and seem to go on pretty easy...
LoD makes quality products for sure and right here in the USA :)
I’m installing different sliders on a Gladiator and have to remove the body bolts to install. It’s been an incredible amount of effort to remove them without snapping one due to the loctite. Seeing you just spin them loose made me super jealous. My stubby Milwaukee doesn’t have enough so it’s 100 times back and forth with a socket wrench.
Bummer to hear you're having problems. Hope all goes well.
Always enjoy your videos! Thanks for making them.
We're so glad to hear it :)
Oh my god, when you opened that, I thought it was a rats nest or something! LoD is one hell of a brand though, I love their products. I installed a rocker guard similar to that on my TJ. My factory Rubicon rocker panel was bending up the body and actually made a significant crease. Not noticeable, very small, but installing some frame mounted ones sure helped. Hoping to get a JL Rubicon soon. Your guys' videos motivate me to keep building my tj! Thanks and keep up the good work!
LOL!! I'm not gonna lie, trying to get LoD parts out of their boxes is kind of a pain. But, everything came out lookin good.
I have LoD signature series on my JKU sport. They are indeed a pain to get out but no worries about shipping and the things are built like a tank.
Those rock sliders are awesome now I want some. Great install video.
Thank you :)
Could Not be a better Video on Opening a Box .... Awesome Job! 😃
LOL!! Thanks :)
Looks nice! Will have to consider. Girlfriend would love a little step and I surely like the much more secure frame mount! Thank you for the videos!
The step really is handy and being frame mounted, it really is a hell of a lot stronger.
Trust me, we gf's (or at least this one) love the step! BF is 6'2" I'm 5'1" haha. As far as I'm concerned rocker = step.
I have these same rockers on my JK..I had to drill and tap new holes. Looks like they made install a lot more simple!!! Thank goodness...mine was a pain
Yeah, I installed a set on my JK's back in the day as well and they did take a bit more work. These are way easier.
As always great editing and video! Still looking forward to that garage tour! You have my dream garage!
LOL!! Thanks - we just have so many videos that we need to get done first.
A good company always cares about their packaging...I deal with a lot of manufacturers and its amazing how many will ship 100k worth of material in cardboard versus plywood crates
Still the best JL content out there 🤙🏻
Thank you. We really do appreciate it.
Petting the dog is a important step for assembly the rockguard! ;)
By the way, you make a great job anytime! :D
LOL!! Yes it is :)
As always, love your install videos!!
Thank you :)
Looks Great. Keep up the good work . The music is pretty darn good.
LOL! Glad you liked it :)
Just discovered your channel yesterday. LOVE IT!
You actually post mistakes, issues, etc. That's awesome for us.
I'm thinking of buying my first Jeep so I have a few questions.
1. How much in after market products do you think you've spent?
2. Any strategies for saving gas. I read they are guzzlers.
3. Are you a mechanic? You have a huge garage and many vehicles. I am horrible with this sort of stuff and it makes to nervous to buy and install parts.
Glad you found our channel! I you haven't done so already, we'd be grateful if you could please subscribe to it. Regarding your questions:
1. We've done a lot since posting this video and where we're at now would probably set you back about $15k or more.
2. Stick with factory size tires and run all terrain tires or street type tires. The bigger you go the more you'll burn and the more aggressive the tread, the more rolling resistance you'll have as well.
3. I am not a mechanic but I have been working on Jeeps for well over 20 years. Like you, I once was new to all this stuff and you only learn by doing.
Always great vids for install. Thanks
Glad you like them!
Those rocker guards are definitely a major upgrade.
Especially from the factory set. :)
Do you have pinch seam covers installed? In the install portion of the video I see bare white on the pinch seam but at the end it looks like it's covered up with a black pinch seam cover.
wayalife.com/showthread.php/54558-BLACKED-OUT-JL-Wrangler-Pinch-Seams
I was wondering the same. And then I found this article they posted. They used black vinyl.
I personally would leave the decorative plates off. Looks like they would hold mud and rocks that might fly out on the highway and break someone’s windshield. Great video. Thanks for sharing.
It looks really good. I like it.
Great install vid! I have the JCR classic sliders on my JLU. Similar look but mount different. They did great in Moab this year, took a beating
Great job. Thanks for the video 👍
Wow! easy install!! They look great. Pro Tip: When you are pushing your ratchet you might want to keep your hand open and push with your palm and without closing your fist around it. That way incase the ratchet slips you won't kill your knuckles! ;-)
Just found your channel ( can’t stop watching your content). Really looking to getting into a jeep JL 2 door wrangler with a soft top ( like the ability to remove the rear windows and not the entire top in order to give my dogs access to some wind). I’m switching from my vw vanagon ( time for 4WD) . My current dilema is the only roof rack that has seriously caught my attanetion has been the LOD destroyer sliding rack. I’ve noticed they don’t make these for the 2 door and I am wondering if you know if a similar roof rack exist.
Happy to hear you enjoy our videos. Regarding roof racks, it's tough as there really isn't a whole lot out there for a 2-door.
Good looking sliders! I wonder how those bolt heads on the bottom of the frame rail will hold up.
Time will tell for sure. I'm guessing they do it this way now because so many people like to color match the trim to the body of their Jeep. Fortunately, most of the hits we see are either on the very bottom of the sliders or directly on the side of them. Either way, if we jack them up, you'll be sure to see it here on this channel :)
Sorry, just re-read your post and a bit more carefully this time and what I can tell you is that they'll hold up about as well as the factory bolts have held up on our JK. Over the last 11+ years, they've taken a beating and I have had to file the sides of the bolts down to make them usable but, they are still usable. A couple are just now getting thin enough that I'll most likely replace them but, that is after a lot of abuse. Needless to say, I'm not too worried about them.
Nice, they look awesome!!
Thank you :)
great video !! & i'm surprised about how you organize your tools and equipment!
LOL!! It's the only way to know where everything is when you need it :)
The factory slider are good show pieces, I like the clean look. they didn't made it frame mounted to save weight I guess, they are really quite light.
why its important the hole that you drilled?.. and you dont miss the step ?
Great video. Just a couple comments: 1) it shouldn't be necessary to loosen the body bolt. I had trouble getting the sliders on over the body bolt washers, but I called LoD and they advised rocking the sliders back and forth and it worked. Those big body bolts are very hard to loosen and can break if you're not very careful. 2) This is WAY easier to do with two people.
If you say so. I may just be new to all this Jeep stuff but I'm pretty sure I tried just about everything prior to loosening up the body mount bolts. That being said, a second set of hands will always make any install a lot easier.
Haha. I'm sure you're right. Just wanted to point out to noobs like me that rocking it would be something to try before committing to loosening those bolts.
I wondered if just a very slight turn on the bolt and then a prybar to move the washer into position might work. Breaking that bolt scares me, as I would hate to have to start cutting holes in my new Jeep.
Awesome my brother 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Holy shit. The new design of the frame rail and body mounts allowed for a 100% bolt-on installation.
JL strikes again as being exceptionally mod-friendly.
EDIT: I didn't wait for the passenger side...so 99% bolt-on. lol
LOL!! Technically, you don't really need that one bolt on the passenger side - well, unless you know you'll be beating on these sliders like I know we well. :)
@@wayalife yea on my JK I had to drill and tap new holes on both sides!!! They made it a lot easier to install on the JL
Nice Install, they look good. I noticed on toward the end of you video that it looks like you painted the along pinch seam black and filled the holes in with painted bolts. Nice Finishing touch! Great Video.
Yup, I blacked out the pinch seams and you can see more pics of it here: jlwrangler.com/showthread.php?1998-BLACKED-OUT-JL-Wrangler-Pinch-Seams
Wayalife I was thinking the same thing .
The blacked out pinch seams are a great touch. Well done!
Love your videos (&jl) sooo much!
I sure hope all of that packaging crap at the beginning is biodegradable. Sheesh! 😄👍
Getting the materials to build your DIY top hoist for my Willys today...wish me luck! 🙂
LOL - so glad to hear you enjoy our videos and good luck to you :)
Another awesome video. I noticed you have every tool imaginable. Are you a mechanic by trade? Can't wait to get my JL. It will be my first jeep ever.
Nah, I've just been doing this for well over 20 years now. I've just added to the collection as the need arose. I think you'll love your new JL :)
Aaaayyyy new videeooo. It’s a good day
Glad to hear our videos make for a good day :)
Eddie, do you have any videos of cutting off the metal seam with the rear tire hits the frame when articulating?
On my old JK, that was necessary to do but I did not have to trim the seam on this JL.
I'm running 3.5" lift with 37' tires. I'm thinking the right combo would be a 4" lift with 37" tires for no rubbing on the rear seam. Great videos btw. I must say your way ahead of the game than all these other UA-camr's. I enjoy watching the JK Experience. Did you hire professional camera guy when making all the videos or did you do all that yourself?
I like that you really know your shit when it comes to the Jeeps. Harris said it right, I'll watch your video before buying anything because you have already tested the products and explain what works vs. what doesn't.
If you're referring to the plastic fender liner, I just used a heat gun to reshape it. So happy to hear you enjoy our videos too. Cindy, my wife, she does all the filming and editing.
Since you have had these sliders for a while, have you found it necessary to go back and drill the 2 optional holes for the self tapping bolts? @16:55
Nope, can't say that I've seen any need for the extra bolts.
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They look good! I recently installed a bumper that required some drilling and was victim of hot sharp shrapnel metal pieces as well so i know your pain haha!
Two questions< 1. can you complete the installation without drilling the chassis? 2. Is there enough space on top of the slider to step on it? (you kindda mention it but I cannot see if it is a tight fit or enough to step on) Would like to add if snow will accumulate on top as to prevent you from stepping on them. Thanks
You don't have to drill all the holes like I show in the video but it is helpful to do the ones I show. Yes, there is enough space on top to use these as a step. Granted, it's not a big step but I used them all the time to do things like wipe down the top of the roof when washing my Jeep. I have not had issues with snow accumulating on top or at least, enough to be a problem.
Thanks! How wide are they 3", 4"? (mean on top surface)@@wayalife
@@pedromassabie3600 I would say about 4" of a useable step.
Grate widow and tips ,, love watching them ,, keep it coming 🍻
Eddie,
I installed LoD Signature Rock rails today. Thank you for your video. Followed your guidance and made the whole process much easier. The instructions for LoD leave something to be desired.
I notice in your after photos that you have a black trim piece on the exposed pinch seam. What is that? Is that another piece that can be installed? Did you paint it? Looks great. I would like to do the same. Please let me know what you used.
Thanks. Really appreciate your channel and all of your guidance.
So glad to hear our video was helpful to you. The black trim was just some black vinyl. You can buy it on a roll on Amazon. However, I have painted the trim on my white JK and it worked out great too.
I like the look but aren't those bolt heads going to get mangled on the rocks?
Yup, they will. That is a down side to them but fortunately, they're just cosmetic. I ended up taking them off.
Great video the LOD rocker guards look beefy. Your trans cross member looks a little beat up not as bad as LiteBrites JL but im sure you will be doing a replacement video in the near future.
For the 3 body bolts on each side...are they all the same part number? (Looking to buy extras). The body bolts closer to the front of the vehicle seem different than the rest. Was wondering if you knew
The front ones are slightly different.
@@wayalife do you happen to know the formal names of those, or the part numbers?
Hey Eddie, thanks for a great video. Can you do a pro and con between these LOD sliders and the Evo ones you have now. I'm trying to decide between the two. Thanks
I might be able to do that but I can tell you that both are good rock sliders. The EVO's sit higher up and that's a good thing but they're a lot more work to install and you have to drill into the body. The LOD's sit lower but they do mount onto the frame and are easier to install.
Do they make this part for the gladiator. Love the look but would need it longer to fix my gladiator.
Unfortunately, I don't think they do but they should.
@@wayalife thanks for replying. Great videos btw. I guess I’ll keep shopping around.
Great video, I'm surprised LOD doesn't supply lock washers with their hardware.
Not sure why they would be needed but, okay.
Would the new lod's fit over the stock rocker guards without having to remove or modify? That way you could have double protection.
For one, no, it will not. For two, it would actually INCREASE the chance of doing damage to your rocker panels. At least, that's what I have seen on the JK over the last 10 years. The problem is, the body mounts on the JL are isolators, not pucks like they were back in the TJ days and they allow for a significant amount of movement. Big hits to frame mounted rocker guards would cause them to impact the Rubicon guards and that in turn would still cause them to contact the body. But again, that's just what I've seen.
@@wayalife o.k. I was just curious. I own neither a JK or JL but plan to in the near future. BTW I own a 1992 YJ that I bought new and still use it as a daily driver. (327,000 miles). For the most part, it's still stock except for 31" tires and used engine. Someday I would like to modify it and make it more off-road worthy when I get another jeep.
Great videos!!
Thank you :)
Where did you find the torque specks for the body mount bolts on the JL? Everything I have seen shows 80 ft lbs.
Sounds like none of what you've been seeing comes from FCA. I'm using their specs that I got from them and have posted here on my forum jlwrangler.com/showthread.php?1167-TORQUE-SPECS-JL-WRANGLER-Reference-Guide&p=12862&posted=1#post12862
Great video! I'm going to assume that all of the OEM bolts on the JL are metric. Why do aftermarket vendors insist on using SAE hardware? It's annoying!
Metric bolts are more expensive. In many cases, a LOT more expensive.
Eddie, what are your thoughts on 'rock sliders' that mount to the large body bolts? I purchased the JCR sliders and found that they mount to two of the three body bolts on each side of my gladiator. I'm super nervous about messing with those bolts. I've read too many scary stories about them not being heated properly before removal ect...
Did I make a mistake?? I have held off from installing so far. I plan to go to the jeep dealer to do it.
There is some truth to what you've heard and I have personally seen where the bolts can break during removal.
Awesome have a great day
any issues not using locking hardware or loctite on the hardware?
Not really. They're just rock sliders. If the bolts come loose, I'll make sure to tighten them up a bit more. If it becomes an ongoing thing, I'll consider using some loctite at that time but from past experience running rocker guards like this, it hasn't been an issue.
@@wayalife Sounds good! good looking sliders!!!
Question? What did you use to cover the body holes ? It looks like a vinyl or something thanks great video.
I used black vinyl.
@@wayalife Thank you for quick response, got a link to where you got it?
So how long did it take to install. start to finish
Hard to say as everything takes a lot longer to do when filming. Maybe 2 hours or so?
First off, I love your videos and I find them very informative.
I was wondering about the pinch seam. The factory rockguards seem to close them somewhat to the elements, so I was thinking if adding a cover of some sorts along the seam would be good to cover against possible rust forming?
I live in Iceland and I will be doing quite a bit of driving in snow and on glacial mountain trails, the air will be salty near the coastline (obviously) so having that exposed seam would not be good if it opens the car to rusting.
Actually, I've always found the factory rocker guards catch rocks and mud that sit in between the two. In fact, you can see some of it in this video and that's after me trying my hardest to hose it out. If anything, I think you'd be better off without it on. With that said, if you look at the last scenes of this video, the pinch seams are black. I applied a strip of vinyl wrap along the edge and folded it up the back side. If you shrink it in place with a heat gun, it'll give a good seal and that might help you out.
Wayalife hi, can you tell me what type of vinyl wrap you used?
Maybe I never noticed it in prior videos, but my opinion of you just jumped up a few notches after noticing the Trump sign in the background! 😉
Are you concerned about the exposed bolt heads on the bottom of the frame? Seems like they will easily get hung up, or damaged on rocks.
What I can tell you is that they'll hold up about as well as the factory bolts have held up on our JK. Over the last 11+ years, they've taken a beating and I have had to file the sides of the bolts down to make them usable but, they are still usable. A couple are just now getting thin enough that I'll most likely replace them but, that is after a lot of abuse. Needless to say, I'm not too worried about them. As far as getting hung up goes, they shouldn't any more than the transfer case skid bar.
How have these rockers held up? Have they helped prevent damage to the rocker area as well as the pinch seams?
I don't have them anymore as we're testing out something else but they held up great and a friend is still using them today.
How are these for using as a step on a lifted Jeep?
I personally thought they worked great.
Great video as always. Did you happen to see the Ace Engineering ones? I bought some for my wife’s JL but I like that this install doesn’t require totally removing the body mount bolts. Any thoughts on an install that requires removing the body bolts vs this type of install?
Unfortunately, I have no experience with their sliders and don't really know how they bolt up. That being said, I would think that removing the body mount bolts shouldn't be an issue so long as you tighten them back to torque spec. As far as the sliders go, so long as most of the load is being supported by the frame, you should be good there as well.
Edie! Amazing video thanks for the instructions. Can you please share what you used to cover the body seam?
Looks like you have some sort of black body seam cover.. Not sure if you purchased that separately or it came with the sliders?? Also do you think these will work with the Ecodiesel Rubicon?
Thanks in advance and greetings from Arizona :D
Yes, they would work on a diesel and the cover is just black vinyl that I bought and applied to the seam.
Why don’t you have skid plates? With LOD sliders would skid plates still fit?
I'm not sure what you're referring to. Aside from a skid for the oil pan and transmission coolers, the JL comes with a gas tank skid and one for the transfer case and right from the factory. The ones on my 11 year old JK have held up well.
Wayalife I was watching the Lite Brite channel. Just like the factory sliders and skids, they don’t seem to hold up to real world heavy duty use. So more heavy duty sliders and bottom skids seems like it is needed. ua-cam.com/video/vRVjzcTUnNo/v-deo.html
Apparently, you haven't watched any of the non JL videos we've posted over the last 10 years. Perhaps you should as in them, you will see the kind of wheeling we've done with FACTORY skid plates. Sure they're a bit beat up now but to suggest something more heavy duty is "needed" is a bit of a stretch or at least, to me anyway.
Old video, but curious. Did you ever end up installing those extra self tapping bolts?
I did not and really, have found that the rocker guards work fine without them.
@@wayalife Thats good to hear. Thanks for sharing your experience! I think ill skip them too. The passenger side optional hole specifically calls out for off road use, but not the two extra self tappers. Did not seem like a good idea to unnecessarily drill through the seam weld of the frame for those guys, so ill skip it.
Is this solid enough to use as a hi-lift mount point using a strap around the slider?
Yup :)
I noticed you vinyl wrapped the bottom portion, I think that’s so smart. I am 100% going to order these sliders, how have they held up since having them and using them?
The sliders hold up well and do a great job of protecting your Jeep. That said, if you play on really tough rocks, the bolts and facia plates will get beat up. Not that big of a deal but something to be aware of.
Do the rock sliders get in the way. When entering or exiting the Jeep???
Not in but depending on how you exit your JL, you may find that your leg will make contact with it. No big deal unless it's muddy.
Love your install vids. Liked this right up until you had to break out with the pneumatic drill.
LOL - it's what I had handy :)
Whats your opinion on the Aires or Rock Ridge powered side steps? I currently have them on my rubicon just for ease of use when getting in, and for my parents to also make it just that more easier on my 2 inch lifted JL Rubi with 37's
Clearly, you bought them to satisfy a need and unless there's something about them that you're not happy with, it shouldn't matter what I might think of them.
Eddie, great video. I’m installing mine as soon as they show up.
A few questions:
Did you worry about breaking the body mount bolts? Plenty of videos to indicate that may be an issue.
Name/manufacturer the touch up paint you use. Amazon?
Right angle drill - manufacturer - model.
Keep up the great videos.
Not sure what people have been doing to break body mount bolts but as you can see in this video, I had no issues.
The touch up paint I use is amzn.to/2Y67iVM
The right angle drill is an old Harbor Freight air drill I got maybe 20 years ago. I would recommend something more like this now. amzn.to/2Nb3HF3
Appreciate your videos so much. How important would you say that hole you had to drill on the passenger side is? For now these will primarily be a step for my wife, I just feel like I might as well get something good on there the first time to future-proof it.
It's not critical especially if you're just using it as a step but definitely something I would make time to do sooner or later.
Hi where I can get that step can you send me exactly the name and brand thanks
Great video. Have the same rails coming next week. I too have a white jlur and the pinch seems have to be covered up. How is the vinyl holding up? From one shot it looked like you wrapped a screw also or was it black? If you have a vid of installing the vinyl I would love to see. I have also found black metal strips that screw on to cover the area for around $85. Considered plastic dip too.
The vinyl is holding up great but I have painted the trim on my JK in the past. There's no way I would pay $85 just to black them out.
I may give the vinyl a shot. Looks like the curved edges might be a pain. Did you wrap the backside of seam as well?
Yup, sure did. :)
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Another great vid.
My first impression here is that the Rubicon sliders are much more fragile than I had originally thought. I'm not planning to do any rock crawling so I bought a set of Roam Offroad's Armor Sidesteps. From what you've shown me, these side steps actually look like better protection than the Rubicon rock rails. Of course they aren't even close to the protection offered by the LoDs.
Speaking of the LoDs. I'm curious to see how well those allen key'ed screws hold up when they get scraped across the rocks. Will they shear off at all?
The side trim is more cosmetic than anything. You could easily remove them for serious play or replace them if they get too beat up. Most trail hits happen directly underneath or on the side so it shouldn't be too much of a problem. That being said, if we jack ours up, you can be sure to see it here on this channel :)
Can you confirm how you knew that the body bolts should be torqued back to 92 ft-lb?
Factory Service Manual
Great video! Love these rocker guards - are you going to put a skid plate system on? BTW - great looking dog.
I'm not a fan of skid plate systems as they tend to be way too big, way too heavy, retain way too much heat and make it difficult to service your Jeep or at least, not without having to do a lot of work first. If the bolt heads get jacked up, they're near impossible to remove too. This is all from first hand experience and dealing with other peoples Jeeps over the years. For me, I have found the factory skids to be more than adequate. Sure, they get beat up but I have yet to have one fail on me on any of the 4 JK's I've owned and over the last 11+ years. What I do want is some kind of protection for the transmission if only because the cooler lines are so exposed - that is a real problem for me. Oil pan protection would be nice too but not as critical.
What’s that Milwaukee electric screwdriver called
Are you referring to the electric ratchet? amzn.to/2BKODrM
Question -= how well did they work as a step?
They work pretty well for me and anyone who's ridden in our Jeep.
Are these available for 2 Dr also ?
Not as of yet but I'm sure they'll be coming out soon.