600cc vs 1000cc Motorcycles - Everything You Need to Know
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As someone who went from 600s to a 1000 and back to a 600. I think for the street and honing skills the 600 is perfect. I found myself being a bit more timid in the twistys on the 1000 and my skills stopped progressing. Once I got another 600 I feel way more confident in the twistys and putting power down mid corner and corner exit.
Maybe I'm just a weenie tho
Edit: side note all my bikes have been early to mid 2000s with no rider assists or modern improvements so take that as you will
I fully get this. My 05 ZX10R was a bit sketchy coming out of turns, but I didn’t feel comfortable trying to get used to it.
@@bobfromlogistics the 1000cc I was referring to was a 04 zx10r that put down 165 to the rear wheel. I down sized down to a 90hp 03 cbr f4i and it's more relaxed controls and near half the power for me feels like a sweet spot.
What fuckin mad lad.
I went from a Daytona 675 to a 2005 Zx10r, it was a great bike but similarly I didnt feel like I was able to use it on the road, I got rid and got a Sportster 1200 which was a big shift the other way, I now have a 2005 cbr600r and I’m much happier winding that out on the roads without fearing death like on the ninja
@@ryanhyde4337 in conclusion the problem seems to be the short wheelbase batshit gen 1 zx10rs lmao
Should I turbo a grom?
Yes
I'm thinking the same thing. Turbo Grom as my first beginner bike. Lol
Only if you want to experience Warp Speed in real life...
Thinking I should engine swap it got ideas?
@@Bugside 🫠
I don’t always feel like being miserable on a sport bike on the street, but when I do, I like the payoff of liter class power.
real
So as I understand it. You have to get a 1000 so you won't get bored. Then you get a 600 once you get the skillz.
Went down from 1000 to 600 and am loving it. On track I can manhandle the 600, am way faster and having more fun, plus I save money on tires, brakes, etc. On the street, I’d take the litre bike, less buzzy, more torque - if you’re breaking the speed limit, do it right.
Are you recommending a turbo busa?
Sweet, I really appreciate the knowledge being dispensed here. Thanks and am looking forward to more lessons on engine configurations .
So having owned a gsxr 750, and 2 1000s I completely agree on the 750, it's a nice bridge! Still miss my 750!
I love everything about my 2022 750 :)
750 is an amazing bike for ripping track and twisty.
Loved my 750 for this very reason. Took my mates r6 for a ride and hated it for the street/local mountain roads.
That being said my next bike will be a litre bike, purely for the usable torque and cause I'm damn heavy
My 750 made me not want liter bikes anymore.
Jesus man, I just like riding. It really doesn't even matter what it is anymore, I find the good side of any machine, warts and all. That's being said, both a 600 and a Liter bike would be great fun to have in my garage and great fun to ride.
Well said, why does anyone care what u ride, ride ur own ride and be happy no matter what it is. Some people like 600’s some like 1000’s. Who cares, one doesn’t deserve to bash the other. Jus enjoy ur ride and ride safe
I like the low end performance of the liter bikes. Its a lot of fun when some asshole in a car gets on your tail but then loses all hope when you pull away as if he's standing still.
My starter track bike was a 2010 ninja 650, yes boring bike but very great power level and forgiving on missing downshifts with a rather flat power band, the only downside is weight was a little bit of an issue but that was easy to fix by stripping it down if the stuff you don’t need on a bike for the track. Now I’m running a 2015 Zx6 and love it, I recently fully race prepped it and think it’s one of the better 600cc track bikes due to the extra punch it gives over some of the 600cc bikes. But it definitely is more for a skilled track rider (not claiming to be fast lol) to ride fast, so I couldn’t imagine a 1000.
I'm a beginner rider so I'm just gojng to skip the 600 and liter bikes and go straight for the Turbo busa
Saves time and money long term. You'll either save on modding and swapping bikes, or you'll get to heaven sooner....
Right on time. Needed this. Thanks YN!
Very good breakdown! Great job!
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If you're being honest with yourself a 600 is more than fast enough on the street
Even short shifting a 600 barely cracking the throttle you are going to be twice as fast as any normal road car
600s have power to weight ratios that most cars would need around 500 horsepower to match just to put it in context.
Couldn't agree more, unless you're mad enough to do long trips on a sports bike the 600 class is most definitely more than enough for the street for sure, they're still a bit overpowered, they hit 60mph/100kph in 2 seconds, that's quicker than a litre bike but they're so much more fun in the twisties than the big bores, win win in my book
Sarge would ride a 600. !
@@502Imcomingthrough i Have 2004 600rr, 2004 z1000 is slower but more comfortable... 600 is more then enough i never had problem keeping up with bigger bikes to 120mph on the street (sv1000, ducati 998, multistrada 1290 etc..) the trafic or the limit of the surface and rider makes bigger difference then extra hp that you rarely use.. i rather have lighter bike, that can rew 30% more and i need to be more involved if i want to go fast because i need to shift more often and make sure that iam in the best rew range... and power is not everything, just doing high speed acceleration runs gets boring on any bike (even busa after some time) the corners are the real enjoyment of riding a bike and if i can be faster in corners with 500cc then most people with liter superbikes... i dont really see much advantage having this much power but everyone enjoys something different... some people really love 50cc two stokes and they enjoy every second/minute of that bike... to me 600 has the best handling/speed ratio and i dont wanna sacriface handling for more speed if i allready have too much speed
Still have my first bike from about 5 years ago. Went with the 2002 CBR954RR and I’m in love with it. Enough power to do whatever I want, and can still man handle it when needed
Nice, I just bought a 929rr a few months ago as kind of my “first” bike
The heart says yes, but the wallet says no...
Honestly, this helps me understand the positioning of my Ducati Supersport 950s more. No joke, this makes sense.
I’m just chilling over here with my ninja 400🤣
I literally just went from a ninja 650 straight to a liter bike little over a year of riding under my belt. Got a 22 ZX10R I really wish I would have bought a 636 or 750. I too am worried about my progression stopping or taking longer because it's such a monster.
On my 650 I was getting pretty cocky on it because I felt very comfortable on it
I am on a 650 and was debating of getting a new r1 or zx10r so i am in the same boat you just were in
I started on a ninja 500 and upgraded to the Fz1 shortly after a year of riding too.. I regret nothing but I do agree the confidence level is much lower on a 1000cc but it also humbles me and keeps me within my limits. However, I do wish I could have kept my 500 just to mess around and really test my limits legally.
@@sevro161 I love my new 2022 zx10r all black with red accents. Get a slip-on exhaust air filter ECU flash. They're heavily restricted. Fun bike power for day's.
@@KenBurr ya dude for sure, I still have my 2021 ninja 650 trying to sell atm, with a yr and some odd months of riding it, it has 8,466 miles on it rain or shine I rode it to work. Gas is hella lot cheaper for that thing than my pickup trk. 🤣
I went from a Honda CB600FA (Hornet) to a Kawasaki Z1000SX and although bigger and heavier the Z feels so well balanced and manoeuvrable, and so much more stable, relaxing and effortless at speed because I don’t need to wring it’s neck to overtake etc. Maybe also because the Hornet was a naked bike, it got knocked around more in the wind. Should add that before buying the Z I also bought a Suzuki M109R so compared with that, a 1000cc bike feels like a 650 would compared with a 1000.
I love this channel because he is so honest
Awesome to watch this video after a track day with my zx10r, being one of the slowests… but “ow dude what a bike”, “I now I now it’s amazing” *me hiding my lap times*
The sole reason why I'm getting my license here in Sweden for a bike for the first time next year...is that I have calmed down with the way I drive.
My sole goal with getting the license is that my dream have always been A Hayabusa (no turbo) ever since gen one. 4 kids later and lots of cooling down with street racing cars that I stopped. I feel mature enough. So going 600 first..then in the end...oh yes she will be mine...oh yes! She will be mine! I just have to own one and have it in my shop to drool over. Haha
Maturity is just a person being able to adjust to society better because of experience. And maybe a little less ' hey look at me ' gravings but i find that this depends on your personal character just as much as age.
people still have the same kid inside of them and under the right circumstances the kid will come out.
And i can tell you being on a motorcycle is the right circumstance for me!
So if you where a dangerous driver than your probably still the same but just got bored of street racing so you can let it go now! A new spark ignites the same fire..
Maybe you do have more to live for now, good for you! But deep down there is a good reason why you still want that hayabusa..
He’s got sole, but he’s not a soldier
Ett stort lycka till! Jag började med en Ninja 650 -21 och lär uppgradera så småningom. Du gör rätt i att börja med en 600cc för att sedan gradvis öka. Kör försiktigt!
@@SmOkELMi I plan for some track days too. My neighbour where I have my shop have an R1 tracktoy. Haha
@@stefanburemo9661 track days are the best. That's where you'll get the most out of your bike as well as mastering maneuvering abilities. I can easily smoke many 1000cc bikes on the track, that is thanks to the track days that are available.
You gotta love the classical music in the background, made the whole thing for me:)
Ouuu been waiting for a video like this
Why… There is about a million of them on UA-cam. And they are stupid bikes, that should never been on the road in the first place. They are specifically made to be used on a track of full RPM all the time.
ZZR600 guy here, still thinking about that ZZR 11, 12 or 1400… but for now just saving while enjoying the 600 A LOT
1000cc V-twin and V4 is where it's at! Aprilia RSV1000, RSV4, Ducati V2/V4 models etc. Heaps of torque for road-riding, no need to rev it out. And the italian V-twins will still rev out quite high if you feel like! And of course V4's ... Best of both worlds.
I'm watching this even though i don't plan to get an upgrade, I'm contentex with my R3 . Our road here is mostly canyons.
yo yo Noob. First bike was a gsxr 750, the last bike I had was a zx9. I know this from receipts not bc I remember!!! Rear-ended while on it in '07 , so now I get my Sportbike fix, online watching some fella form Texas. I watch you a ton
Of corse mr Giggy was nekkid
In Germany, you can legally enjoy the full capability of a liter bike on the interstate.
Ah... the shopping drawing board continues to be worked on. Next, you should do this for cruisers...
monster can in the ram duct is perfect!
r1 is reasonable upgrade for its crossplane. crossplane just sounds good
Just bought a 2009 r6. Still have my 2018 sv650 for a daily. Started on a 2014 cb500f 4 years ago. The 600 is certainly fast enough for now
@Piña-TV price, miles, condition, original fairings, been dropped, what if any mods?
@@streetbike_jpod I started on a 2008 SV650 and recently got a 2009 R6 just like you. Can confirm, the 600 is definitely fast enough 😁
A 600 is fast enough forever lol
I would be seen on a 750 GXR or any V4. The lower rpm touque of a V4 is a riot, and the throatier sound of the 750 with a little more low end grunt is better than having to wind out a 600. But I am a street guy - not a track guy.
But if you gave me a Daytona....
I’m a Kawasaki guy full disclosure but I’m tried of the Italians getting the upper hand on the Japanese manufactures!
I love my Ninja 1000SX for the street, but have my eye on a ZX-6R for the track someday.
Im all time have been see your videos
Got an MV F3 675 2015 and a 2020 BMW S1000rr. Honestly the BMW is so fucking good it's almost too easy to ride, will make you look and feel a lot better than you actually are. But the MV is just pure passion, way scarier when you're pushing to the limits, but also makes you feel more alive.
For both the road and track the BMW makes way more sense in every single way... but at the same time you can't beat the audacity and fun factor of an Italian bike.
600s will always have my heart. I love the way they scream
I want a liter bike, but my 600 is definitely enough for the street. Only down side is I have to downshift to quickly pass cars on the interstate/highway but I’m so used to it that it doesn’t even bother me anymore
That's the fun part! 1000s don't require any effort
Agreed. My 99 R6 is more than enough for everyday riding.
If you get a bike that is made to be use on the streets, and not for full rpm on a track. You don't have this problem, or any of the other problems you have. The bike is made to track riding and racing on a track.
Honestly, I recently picked up an ‘18 R6 and I can pass on the interstate with a 75mph speed limit with ease in 6th gear… I literally just roll onto the throttle and I easily pass at 85
Well I just got my first bike this year 2021cbr300r abs. Looking to upgrade next year or this year if the deal is right. My brain has been going and going on what to get. I’m lost😂. I love riding and want a good bike that’s going to last and have more power than the 300 because at highway speeds my bike isn’t the best. Any thoughts?
0:18 aww the bird 🙂🥰🥰
“Well that’s a decision you’re gonna have to make between yourself & God”
😂😂😂
A Yamaha R9 with the CP-3 engine at 130-135 bhp would be fantastic, what do you guys think?
this is the most popular opinion ive ever heard lol don't say this like you just thought it up
Maybe get MV to step it up
Get the Tracer 9 gt. It'll do everything you want in the twistys, but you can be comfortable getting to them, and you can bring stuff!
@@phantom_10792 Money
It was annouced this week that the R9 is delayed 1 year ☹️. It will be first shown in Japan motorshow in 2023. Delievery won't be before in 2024. Due problems getting parts
Actually the cbr600rr's last sold version for the USA market weighs 435lbs wet and the 2017-2022 sc77(cbr1000"rr") weighs 424lbs. Close your mouth when you breath next time.
My R6 has had its entire clutch replaced at 11k miles, and almost every friction seeing part has worn in under 6k miles, it has been on track for half its life.
My cbr1000rr SP2(411lbs wet last weigh in) has quarter of its life on track and has a total of over 22k miles. Every friction seeing part has yet to have any issue, the entire bike is still within factory spec with no mechanical issues to show for it. Not only do I not need a clutch on it at 11k miles, but its valves(possibly the only SP2 in the world to see a valve job) were still in factory spec after I procrastinated in doing them at 20k instead of 16k.
The R6 is vastly superior to the previous gen cbr600 just as a package for what it comes with which is why I bought it, but the Honda as a whole has been a more reliable machine. It is my idea on the matter, that Honda simply engineers their bikes better, with better materials than yamaha who CLEARLY cuts corners on production cost, that said if you actually want to learn how to be fast on a 1000, the sc77 platform *without a tune*, is very welcoming to the new 1000 rider on TRACK. 150-155whp, lots of torque, and a chassis that simply handles better than any other bike ive been on, with maybe the exception of the modern rsv4 factory(yes ive been on the bland bmw, the feel is similar except the honda doesnt fry ecu's every 5k miles.)
The R6 is the primary track weapon simply because I learn more on it than any 1000 would teach me, and to be fair I want to sell my SP2 for an R7, but I would never bad mouth Honda, as they still make bikes that are better than what 95% of the USA market needs.
The current 1000rr is so slept on for some reason. I was surprised by how comfy that bike was relative to the class.
Wait till I tune up my tractor < I’ll show you guys some hi revs
600 wins. Game over. And just to throw it down in this comment that nobody will read.... my favorite bike of all time was the FZR-400. Carried my 250lb ass down the 405, lane splitting like a fucking psycho. Weight. Weight is the difference. And holy fuck I want that streetfighter. I can totally slum it with a bigger engine :P
I have a Z900.
I miss my gsxr400 i had in the 80s.
Loved that damn bike.
Every now n then i look fr a bimota with fzr400 engine...wetdream time.
In singapore they had gpz400r's i nearly had heartfailure lol. Not available in australia dMnit
I ride an FZR 400. Had a RZ 350 before that. Great fast small machines!
I've owned 2 ZX10's and 2 636's. I hate to say it, but I definitely prefer my current 636 to the ZX10 platform...
can you tell me why ? i am currently in the situation of buying a 1000 or 600
solid!
Slight typo I think on the Ducati L Twin part, you’ve put HP instead of TQ
Poor MV Agusta :
- their F3 is used more times than I could count in the background of this video
- MV is still making new F3s (now only in 800cc capacity)
- you currently can buy F3s in 3 different varients in the Rosso, RR and RC (a limited edition launched last month)
- the F3 has that triple engine Yammie loves...
and it doesn't get an mention in the 600/1000 alternative section!
Of course - all will be forgiven when you release a review of the latest version of the F3 and how it stands in this crazy world of 600cc squid bikes being replaced by twins.
PS - I'm aware there's a review of the old F3 800 RC by Yammie (which if I recall correctly he said was his favourite bike at the time?).
I wish too for more comprehensive MV Agusta reviews
I'm thinking about getting a bike for track days, any recommendations?
How would older 80s and 90s bikes compared in this debate? I know the ninja had so many variations for example, some more for speed, some more for comfort
Bought a Daytona 675R as my first bike 3 months ago, I'm still alive.
Have you taken the first swing in your drive way yet?
6:35 Too bad that newer version of the 600rr still isn't coming to the States - It's SOOO Awesome. People rave the R7 as a lighter and nimble alternative to the clunkier inline 4 supersports; but the 600rr is lighter and thinner than all of them, including the r7!
With the r6 dead, and the 600rr only available in Japan, we're only left with two bikes: the gsxr600, which hasn't been updated in, like, 50 years; and the zx6r...so...we only have the zx6r left in the States for newer the 600cc class :(
Just liked the video due to the interest in the powernumbers difference from Europe to the US for example the Zx10r does 213hp in Europe or the Honda cbr 600r does 117hp but the R1 claimed 199hp or the Ducati V4s does 215,5😁
The numbers listed in the US are listed as HP delivered at the wheel. Europe tends to be listed as HP delivered from the crank. In the past there have also been bikes that have different ECU restrictions based on different global market regions.
How much would it cost for a un-phallused exhaust?
I have a GSXR 750, ZX10R KRT, and a Hayabusa and I prefer the 750 around town but the Busa on long runs (200 miles plus)
Wish I could find a gsxr750 in NH for sale lol it’d be sold tomorrow
I think everyone just needs both😅❤
Why wouldn’t you want abs on the Kawasaki? I thought it was generally safer to have it than not?
Anyone ever see Maxwrist on a H2 getting destroyed by a guy on a Ninja 400. Guy on the 400 was toying with him at will.
Hey yam just wanted to thank you for getting me into motorcycles. I stumbled upon your videos a couple months ago and I now am a proud owner of a pos fz6
Genuine question, why won't I want ABS on the zx6r as a beginner rider? 8:09
Love my gsxr 750, my first bike and still learning but feel very comfortable and am able to grow
I have a Zx6r and as soon as you hit 10k rpms you just teleport from there😂. It’s a great bike I have some mods to it but at the end of the day its the rider not the bike
I came from riding Harley’s and stuff so would the 600cc be a better fit or 1000cc I was looking at r1m or cbr1000rr-r
I am barely getting into bikes, learning to ride only because I got a really good deal on a 87 Kawasaki zl1000. It’s quite the experience for sure. Probably not the best bike to learn on but I got it really cheap. Any tips would be greatly appreciated .
Are you still alive
Beginner Question....
Is scrambler 1200 an appropriate beginner bike?
Personally I really like 12 and 1400s not because of the power but just because I am a 6 ft 4 in and it's way more comfortable than trying to deal a 600 personally this is why I'm sad Kawasaki discontinued the 1400 line
I'm 6'5, 225 pounds and feel the same way. Love the bigger GT sport bikes. Ninja ZX-12R was my favorite.
I am not 6 ft 4 in but it sounds legit
@@Suspicious_Moai I am 9ft7, 1290lbs and i feel the same way. As a W40k Primarch, my custom Assault bike was my favourite. Cheers
A supercharged ZZR1400 (ZX14R) would have been great.
@@THEREALZENFORCE wow man sounds legit as well
If you’re going to buy a highly uncomfortable bike that has to be wound out to get the power might as well get a 1000.
W
What?
Idk man I have one but you don't have to wind it up. Pretty much will snap your hands off at most rpm's.
also if u want a 600 you dont have to get a sport... the hornet 600 and fzs600 have a similar engine, similar character and are way comfier :)
@@AZ-wc5ot i love those kinds of bikes. superbike engine in naked frame is best combination.
@@SoulTouchMusic93 im trying to get one right now :) selling my own smaller bike but god is it annoying... 3 cool hornets got sold before i could get to them :(
I don't know what it feels like to chase that "peak power" spot in rev range. My Bandit may only peak at 78 ft-lbs, but I get at least 60 ft-lbs at 2000RPM and get to keep that torque all the way to redline. Power, on tap, all the time... just not as much as these sport bikes.
I wanna know what you think of ktms 1290 cc engines on rc8 and super duke
Look i have a Zx10r a zx6r and a ninja 400… among other bikes…
My favorite track bike is the 600…
My frontal male genitalia won’t allow me to take the zx10r to Jennings gp 😅
I had a 1986 750cc gsxr with 4 carbs. That thing was terrifying. I let a whole bunch of guys from my dad's generation ride it and they were scared shitless. There's a point where the average rider doesn't have the mental and physical reaction speed for them. I was close in my early 20s. Brain and body were fast enough. But I'm no rossi. Just an average guy and even in my 30s it would have been too insane. I could still ride it but I'd only open it up on long straights. HP is a stupid comparison because of how long the Rev range is per gear and there's 6 of them. A large hp motor with low revs is far easier
Why the hate on da cbr?!? Did I miss something
I tasted a PC41 CBR600F like 5 years ago, and I can't seem to get the same rush with any other bike .. long story short, I have bought two.
What did it taste like
@@MuhButtsBeenWiped Like a watered down CBR 600 rr haha
@@HelibertATheSushi 😆
as a newer rider, u def wanna have ABS.U dont want something scaring u (which will happen as a new rider) and u locking up the brakes and going down
“That’s a decision you have to make between yourself and god” 😂
*God
We want more supermoto/dualsport/eduro staff from you
Apparently the view count says otherwise. Yam & Spite did a vid a couple weeks ago about it. View count and duration goes way down on the dirt stuff. It depressed me too.
There are another channels with that topic...and they are pretty good...YN didn't get well with dual/supermoto topic
Thats pretty damn good for the new Ninja 636 with 134 hp seeing as tho the 01' R1 I used to ride had 150 hp with No Rider Aides Like The New ZX6
Talk about 1200s! And don’t forget to mention ktm RC8R 1190!!
The real answer to this debate is ‘super-mids’. GSXR 750, Ducati 848, 899, MV F3 800, etc.
I went from a 2015 ninja 300 to a 2006 R1 I mean I still have both. R1 is pretty intimidating and scary to ride. But best decision I ever made was buying the R1. Just gotta get it really down and respect the bike.
The fact you guys can even come up with these ideas for videos is astonishing. Great job guy keep it up 👌
Revolutionary
It's the most basic shit .
how thirsty the bike can be for fuel is also a factor. That’s why I’ll take an MT-07 any day 😂
I rode a ZZR 600, Back in '91. I hadn't rode for a while, and had some Money. And even though it had only 98 PS, and weight about 240 Kilos,plus me(100kg), in my opinion it was FAST-accually it was the fastest 600 Bike,when it came out.
Thinking, that a todays 600 has about 130ps, and weighting way less than 200 kg...they are REALLY fast. And 1000 ccm
Bikes have the Same or even MORE PS as GP Bikes had,not SO long ago....
I would not dare to Ride one...
Greetings from Germany, O
"You can't make use of all the power on a 1000cc bike." Um.....sure. I never do that. Ever. Nope. Never happened. {fingers crossed behind back}
Why wouldn’t you want ABS on the zx6r yam daddy?
Can someone explain to me why you wouldn't want abs?
Be careful when quoting high rpm’s for peak torque and hp numbers. A better way to look at it is % of the way through the rev range. The other consideration is torque at the wheel, rather than at the engine. You can hear a bike down so that even a low torque motor has highly torque at the wheel.
When compared to their 2 cyl counterparts - The 600cc in-line 4’s tend to have shorter gearing and cater for the higher rpm’s, and they still go faster in the low gears because of those extra rpm’s.
The limit with all bikes - esp. in the first few gears is how much torque it takes to wheelie. That is as much as you can put down at any given point. So a 600 can accelerate at the same rate as a 1000 up to a point (I would assume ~150km/hr ish and third gear) before it’s torque at the wheel is lower than the torque required to wheelie. At this point the 1000 walks away.
The other big point - not many 600’s have rider aids. I would argue the 1000’s are a safer option for track work these days because of it.
Weight - not much in it anymore. The feel of extra weight is mainly down to the extra rotational mass in the heavier duty drivetrain.
I would agree. the whole torque argument is a red herring. the only stat that matters is horsepower. the idea of a r7 having higher torque lower in the rpms somehow makes it faster than a r6 is misleading and not true. Like you said, its all about horsepower and how the bike is geared.
Where are the affordable middleweight Sport Bikes with fairings and around 120-150 hp ? There is not a lot to choose from at the moment - and nothing in this segment from Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha, Kawasaki 😓🙈
Revving out and hearing the sound is half the fun of 600s. Don't touch 4th until triple digits. I don't think I'd be using much passed 2nd gear on a liter bike, sounds boring. Engine braking with rev matching is another thing to think about. Cruising at 60 in 6th gear isn't going to give much opportunity there. Flipping into 2nd from 3rd at 80 starts slowing you down real quick. It's fun.
You're right. I really think the power delivery sounds bad on paper, but the experience itself is very much different. Revving it out all the way is super satisfying and you 100% get used to the power delivery the more you ride a 600. Love my r6
600 for starters and 1000 for advanced freeway/highway drivers
So their all awesome.
I am more than satisfied with my ZX6R, 11/10 bike for me, cannot find a single reason to bitch about it, it's heaven
Yes, you will want ABS on your ZX6. Seriously, get ABS on your next bike if it’s available regardless of what make/model it is.
I want to get my first bike. I’m thinking going with a 300. People tell me k should just get a 600 but I’ve never ridden before so I would like to get comfortable.
My brother has a 1999 zx9r I'll probably learn on. I figure it should be fine because its an entire 100cc below a liter. And where its older, It probably doesn't have much power. Plus don't want to get into bad habits of using rider aids, so definitely better to learn without abs/traction control or anything of that nature. I've ridden mountain bikes my whole life so it should be no problem for me.
Mountain bikes, or bicycles, are absolutely nothing like motorcycles. You’re dealing with hundreds of pounds of metal, over 400 pounds typically on 900cc’s. 100cc off of 1 liter is practically nothing. The 600cc zx6r I drove that was a 2,000 was nuts, I don’t think you realize how much power that actually is.
@@extremeencounter7458 both have 2 wheels, suspension, and handlebars. They're practically identical. Just try reading this and my original comment in a sarcastic tone.