In what scenario could Bears trade up for Marvin Harrison Jr. in NFL Draft? | Parkins & Spiegel
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- Danny Parkins and Matt Spiegel debated whether it would be wise for the Bears to trade up from No. 9 overall in the NFL Draft to land Ohio State star receiver Marvin Harrison Jr. In what scenario could that perhaps come to fruition?
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ITS PRONOUNCED OH-DUNE-ZAY lmfao
Not that funny
No, it's pronounced OH-DOOMA-ZAY lol
Why is it Chicago sports media and Bears fans always underrate the WR position? You’d rather roll the dice on lesser talent lower in the draft? Marvin Harrison Jr. is the most polished route runner in the draft. He’s virtually uncoverable, and he catches everything that comes his way. He was a pro bowl caliber receiver in college. You pair him with Caleb Williams and the rest of that offense, and there’s no stopping this offense for years to come.
It’s not a question of undervaluing him, but it’s also incredibly difficult to see how the Bears could realistically trade up to get him considering the farthest he’ll slip is to the Cardinals at pick 4. So if the Bears want MHJr, their only potential trade partner is the Patriots who you gotta imagine would be hesitant to trade out of the top 5 because they want to be able to get a top QB. It’s just a really hard circle you’re trying to square there.
@@luisklein2006Nah the Cards could trade out
To a team who wants JJ at 4*
@@luisklein2006 Unless a team trades up to 4 to get a QB, the Bears have no shot at MHJ. Even the Bears really don't have the draft capital this year to move up.
Stop making lame ass excuses💫 Go and get Nabers, Marvin Harrison Jr.
Stop making lame ass excuses and get the best WR to hit the Draft in a long ass time!
Caleb friendliest option? Trade down a few places to draft the best pass-blocking prospect we've seen in years in Olu Fashanu, and use those assets + to then draft a Keon Coleman or one of the middle group WRs that could still develop into a WR 1-2.
Would love to see Keon Coleman on the bears. A big n tall receiver to.go with DJ moore!!
We need ELITE receivers to compete with the rest of the league and raise our ceiling. It should look like the Bengals burrow year 2 with Boyd, Chase, Higgins. He had the WORST o line in the league and made it to the superbowl. Its about WEAPONS and QB play
Olu isn’t better than joe alt
I completely agree with your assessment in Olu at pass pro, but there's a league of difference in separation/getting open between MHJ and Keon Coleman. As a WR, MHJ is elite and Coleman is not. Regardless of position, MHJ is the best player in this draft. My point is when you get a rare chance to obtain an elite player, take that chance. An elite player has more of an impact than 2 good players, especially within the context of maintaining roster salaries.
Ive been in the camp of trading down taking a pass rusher then a wr with the newly aquiered pick but if all it took was to add a 2 from next year to get mhj thats a no brainer imo. I imagine it would take at least 1 more pick on top of that to move up though
MHJ is the best prospect in this draft. If the importance of the position didn’t matter he’s the best prospect in this draft class and he would go #1. Malik is the 2nd best WR and Rome is 3rd. I would trade up only for MHJ, but I would be ok with either of the 3.
Simms has him as the #3 WR in the draft.
MHJ isn’t the best prospect in the draft based on his attitude alone.
Q: In what scenario could Bears trade up for Marvin Harrison Jr. in NFL Draft?
A: There is no scenario, it's not gonna happen. Stop with the clickbait.
I would give up the 2nd rounder to trade up for Marvin in a heartbeat. Dude is gonna be a top wr for the next decade. It's a no brainer.
One pick can protect and insure every other move we have made. Trade up for Alt. Caleb + Keenan + TE + RB + new OC + New WR are all wasted WHEN (NOT IF) we get an injury to the O-line. Move Braxton to guard/swing tackle. Davis to back-up.
MHJ is getting less scrutiny because the media chose not to.
No kidding, Caleb Williams did 10× what MHjr did to present himself to teams and Caleb still catches everything from teams .
With the way MHJ rolls, when his contract is up, he would demand max money and break the bank. Just like Tyreke Hill did making the Chiefs have to trade him. He might be great on the field, but off of the field, he will be a diva.
I'm with Speigs. hold at 9 unless the top 3WRs are off the board, then trade down for a WR and more pics
What’s the hit rate for seconders especially unknown from a year now
QBs aren't going 1-4, and MH is gone in top 5. This is just dumb. Get over it...
Chargers might wanna trade back and get more picks or stick and pick Alt at 5 then giants pick Nabers then we trace up with Titans
Personally, im hoping they package that 2nd round pick from next year with one of the 5ths they have next year to move into the 2nd round this year. This draft is loaded in the first 3 rounds, id rather have picks this year. Plus it was shocking that Ian Cunningham didnt get hired to be a GM this year. After another season that trends in a positive direction, he'll almost certainly get hired as a GM next off-season and then we will get a 3rd round comp pick in back to back drafts. I think if the top 3 WRs are gone by pick 9, you trade back a few spots and take a DT/edge. There will be WRs available in round 2 or 3.
Let's assume players reach their projection, would you trade:
Rome Odunze (2024 9th) + Your starting Center for the next 10 years (2025 Panthers second) for MHJ?
It is likely that we hope Nabers or Jr fall to 9th and if not trade back a couple and or just draft the best Edge Rusher. If you all want to win we can grab a good #3 WR later and get a dominant edge which is what we need to win our division. Do not neglect the Line
If the Bears offer the Cardinals # 9 and BOTH 2025 2nd round picks for # 4, I think the Cardinals do it. It would be worth it for the Bears. Quality over Quantity. MHJ is a once in a lifetime generational talent. Caleb Williams with MHJ, DJ Moore, Allen, Kmet, Swift, Herbet. Can be an unstoppable offense.
They would have a chance to get Randy Moss. I’d make that move everyday day, any day
trading up for a WR is such a risky move that will end up having fans look at Poles like he’s Pace. Just trade back a spot or two and draft an EDGE.
People need to understand, there has to be a team who wants to trade up. If not, then you're putting out a flyer and not getting what you think. You're not gonna put out a flyer, trade to 14 and pick up a 2nd rounder lol.
None he’s coming to AZ 😂😂
Yea so kyler Murray can’t even see him in open field 😂😂he’s short asl he’s gonna piss Marvin or mark my words
All Murray wide receivers didn’t even like him 😂
What would be really good for the Bears is if someone trades up for jj McCarthy at 4 (unlikely). Then Bears trade up woth Chargers probably for a first. Which we could assume woth Caleb Williams and MHJ, would be in the low to mid 20s
No chance. Don’t have the capital.
If they plan on taking worthy i hope to god it’s not in the first and it’s in a trade down somewhere in the 2nd
I’m waiting on Rice to choose in 3rd. If Dallas Turner is available at 9, you take him
An ill advised scenario. We need to fix our offensive line
RU fking kidding? The 🐻s should absolutely give up a second round pick next year for Marvin Harrison Junior. If there was ever a no-brainer, that is definitely one of them. Who wouldn’t give up a second round pick for a potentially generational talent, especially at wide receiver? Cmon maaaaaan!
he said that he wants to go to the cardinals he want to play in a warm climant
Hold at 9 and grab a blue chip player if available.
Simms has him as the #3 WR in the draft.
Bears need to draft Brock Bowers who can do it all and fits in today's NFL prototype-winning offense.! If not they need to get the best player on the OL at number 9!
Marvin Harrison Jr. about to Randy Moss the league!!! And the "40" means NOTHING!!! I rather get another Offensive Lineman over a WR! This draft order is gonna be interesting this year! As usual
I like Tyrique Stevenson but he was not the best rookie corner last year.
I think he was ranked 2nd, pretty sure Gonzalez was #1.
I wouldn’t do it. Only because Brian Thomas Jr. will be available after a trade down
Look at Super Bowl champs of the last decade. Teams like KC yes have won with that top dog No. 1 receiver.. but they have also won without them. If I’m the Bears I’m doing as others here have suggested and trading down. The O Line talent towards the top of this draft is insane. You want an “e”nsurance policy that Caleb Williams has an environment to THRIVE you continue to upgrade that O Line both in talent and depth. Right now the two most physically imposing OL I’ve seen are Fuaga and Jackson Powers-Johnson from Oregon. Talk about demolishing opponents JPJ has pancaked more guys then IHOP. Seriously look at his vids they’re unreal. I’m all in on him if we can get a decent trade down Bears 9 and 75 for IN/NO/LV 14 and 45ish. JPJ at 15 and either receiver or edge at 45 Keon Coleman, Marshawn Kneeland those kind of guys rated highly by DJ Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks former scouts themselves.
Really wish you guys wouldn't get my hopes up lol
we need an edge way more than we need a receiver at this point. trade down get an edge, and a LT or WR with the new picks u got from trading down. i think that's the most responsible play. even if we just got brendan rice that would be huge with caleb
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If MHJ is there are 7 and it only costs Carolina’s 2nd next year to move up, I would do it
MHJ will be gone by #4 or #5 !! Bet the farm on it.
A-dun-Zay 😵💫
it might happen alot but never for the bears
If Rome Odunze is available at No. 9 he will be the draft pick.
Do we have medical on Caleb now
Trade UP???
Ok my issue with taking a WR at 9 is that who is going to accept less targets? Allen carches around 100+ passes on a good year. DJ will catch what, 100 passes? Kmet 60-70? Theres not enough targets for another superstar and keep everyone happy to draft a WR3. JSN in Seattle was drafted late 1st round with 2 established guys and id say his season was a bit of a disappointment. Thats my concern if Odunze is there at 9.
Jared verse at 9
I want MHJ make the WR room the best in the league
It is fun and to think about. MHJ, Moore and Allen. 🤤
These guys sound like they talk about football but didn’t play at a high level
if they both are coming to chicago why would they participate in pro day. why show the league their skill sets and medical history
But Caleb has worked rice
No no no no! He has 16% drop rate. Why jump through hoops and trade valuable assets just for an overhyped WR. The Bears should stay pat and pick on their picks. No moving around. NIL money got all the good players going back to school. No hidden gems in later rounds this year.
Poles has missed on Jones and Scott. He's got to hit a homerun on which ever WR he pick's. I would trade up for MHJ.
Scott was just a rookie and they're still a little hope for Jones
Scott was not a miss jag off
Poles is giving you an offense of DJMoore, Keenan Allen, with Caleb Williams next season. That’s all Poles.
Scott is NOT a miss… he’s a piece they’re going to integrate… he’ll be a good 4 wr… hella speed… new QB… he’ll be good
If we do take another WR Scott would be the most explosive receiver out of the 4 imagine having to guard DJ moore keenan Allen MHJ/Odunze/Nabers and you put Tyler Scott in on their 4th CB. He could have 6 50+ yd tds this year easily
the best support for a rookie quarterback is a defense that can get off the field on third down. we need to figure out that Edge spot.
You’ve got a point, but a stout O-line is pretty important too. Tough decision
THEY ALREADY HAVE A GOOD DEFENSE!!!
Id trade a 2nd in 2025 for Marvin Harrison Jr absolutely! You guys are crazy. He's one of the cleanest and also the greatest WR we've seen come out in years. Remember you also have to look at the 2025 class and whos available. The Bears are planning on drafting much lower in the years to come. You go up and grab that generational player now. You will have no shot to get high enough to do it in the future. 100% trade up for MHJ.
You would have to trade up to #3 to get him & it would cost the bears a #1 pick
@kevinvonderscher3971 I'd hesitate to give up a 1 but if the Cardinals trade down to Minny, I could see a deal happening with the Chargers for a 2nd. Althiugh our 1st will be a late 1 anyway and we will likely have a high 2 (Carolinas). We would basically be trading up slightly in 2024 to obtain what you couldn't in 2025 talent wise. How many drafts offer a #1 receiver in the late 1st or early 2nd. Not often.
In the scenario where Poles loses his faculties ...
Too many good WR. There’s no scenario where we get Williams and Harrison.
If odunze is gone trade down and take Brian Thomas jr
Shane Waldron loves to use 3 TE sets in Seattle… drafting TE Brock Bowers at pick #9 makes sense
TF are we talkikg about here? Give up what is needed to get MHJ, period. Nabers would be the next best option.
If Ryan Poles has a top-ten pick next year, he ought to be fired.
GO get MHJ.
It's a no brainer.
They should have kept fields traded down an took marv
No I wouldn’t trade up because nabers and Rome odunze is just as good and they are actually better in a lot of ways
By all accounts, Ryan Poles is a long term team builder. Not a win-at-all-cost gm. Trading up for a wr1 when there are 3-wr1's in the draft and one may fall to your team is NOT a move you want to make for the long term. It would cost team capital in future draft picks. Anyone that advocates it is brain dead as far as building a team for the long term. If Odunze is there at #9, you pick him and smile. Plus, by all accounts, Odunze a team captain at Washington, (Since when are top wr's team captains?) looks like he is as good of a person as he is a player. Add him to the great DJ Moore at wr who also is a great person is about as good of a win/win as you could expect to hope for. IF the Bears luck out and come out of this draft with Caleb Williams AND Odunze, you will have to say it is the best draft for the Bears since Gale Sayers and Dick Butkis.
If the Bears are trading up for any player, it better be Joe Alt.
Thank God you're not the GM😂
@@moemo284 he has a great point. Alt would be a #1 overall in many drafts. A premium LT is much harder to find then a great WR
Why do you absolutely insist on saying Odunze's name wrong. If it's just a bit, it's lame af. Otherwise be a professional.
I would trade OUR second rounder next or yr or 3rd rounder next yr to move up 2 spots for him not Carolina’s that’s way too much for only 2 spots when Carolina will most likely have a top 40 pick next yr
Cards are picking MH jr at #4 !! This is all draft chatter BS to get clicks & views.
MHJ isn't fast , he isn't going to show scouts he isn't fast so accept it and move on . Bears need a fast receiver. Why are they stuck on these slow receivers .Are these guys really wanting to trade up for another slow receiver. No thank you why do you want to give up extra draft picks for receivers that don't get Yards After the Catch. No thank you, get some speed .
The team has zero on talent evaluation, with Justin gone, the only thing we know is they want a white to be the face of the faranchise. It’s a simple calculation. Brian Urlacher was a freaking Saftey in college. Rosevelt Colvin was a beast. They didn’t want to pay Rosey. They wanted to play Brian. If it’s my decision, I would have kept them both.
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