Are Bears expectations too high? | Parkins & Spiegel
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
- On the Parkins & Spiegel Show, Danny Parkins and Mark Grote debated whether expectations are too high for the Bears in a tough NFC North. What should we reasonably expect from the Bears?
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I'd Like to see Caleb Williams play a few NFL games before we anoint him anything..
Caleb will be the Packers' kryptonite. He's Rodgers 2.0, an improved version. We might be disappointed by losing at the end of the season, however it happens, but CW is going to change the way the Bears play football... And how they're looked at by the entire NFL. 🐻 👇
Packers already have Rodgers 2.0 lmao
@@whambam21 ha! You’ll see what I mean…
@@thenewholistic Jordan Love is and will always be better than Caleb.
@@whambam21 they wish lolololz
If he sweeps the Packers, this city will treat those 8 wins as a Super Bowl win
True that my friend! Bear 🐻 Down peckers Suck Big Time! FGB all day long
Speak for yourself
Floor is 8 wins ceiling is 11. In my humble opinion
The floor is the playoffs with this team. The infrastructure has been established and the Superbowl window has now opened. I expect CW to show why he has been labeled as a generational talent.
@@charlesmustang Williams can show he is the guy and still throw the game ending interceptions especially in the beginning of the season when he still has need to play hero ball mode. 11 wins gets you playoffs but 8 is the most realistic given a rookie QB regardless of how much ppl want to think he will be the goat
I think floor is 8. The ceiling is there is none. Imo if they're very above .500 at the trade deadline, they probably look to trade one of their 2nd rounders for another pass rusher and they go for it. Especially if it's someone they feel like they can sign to an extension like Sweat. Or if it's just a rental, maybe you use a 3rd pick if possible. They will probably get a comp 3rd rounder assuming Ian Cunningham leaves to be someone's GM in the off-season
@@tonyk7387 Cunningham signed an extension not likely he is leaving for the next 3 yrs and that will more than likely be when better teams are looking to change up the GM room right now it's the same bottom teams looking for gms
@@nickfranco2671 right okay I knew that but I thought it was only until the end of next year which now thinking about it, that wouldn't make much sense. But yeah fair point. Although if the right team offers him a deal and they're set up well with draft capital I could see him leaving. It's not often that a good team fires their GM so no matter how long he stays with the Bears.. the chances of the eventual options being a top team is slim
Expectations have gone through the roof nation wide. Fair or not, if the Bears don't make the playoffs THIS SEASON it's going to be a failure.
Yes, expectations are too high. I don't care that Caleb Williams was picked 1st overall. I don't care that Rome Odunze is a promising 1st round pick. The fact of the matter is that they're still both rookies who haven't played a single game in the NFL. We expect them to be great. We expected Fields to be great, and after three seasons, he was still a bust. This is their rookie year. We have no idea how they're going to adapt to the speed and play of the NFL.
Not to mention that while the WR room looks great on paper, Keenan Allen is still injury prone and is likely in the last few years of his career. If the QB cannot adapt to the NFL, then it won't matter that he's on the team anyway.
Don't disregard the holes that are still on the defensive and offensive lines either. Sure, we have a little more depth this season than last season, but Bates and Coleman aren't a sure thing at Center. If they can't perform then Williams is going to be running for his life all season, especially if Jenkins gets injured, Davis has a year like last year, and/or Jones doesn't take a step up.
On the defensive side, we're relying on Gervon Dexter to take a step up and stop being so damn slow now that Justin Jones is gone, and we still don't have a competent pass rusher opposite of Sweat.
On top of all of that, we're still talking about a franchise that has never been able to competently develop a QB. Why should they start now?
So are expectations too high? Absolutely. This team looks good on paper, but there are still holes in the roster and entire units that are still questionable at best (the trenches). To be excited to see what the team can do is one thing, but to expect a winning season from a team that has only had 6 winning seasons in the past two decades, still has questionable offensive and defensive lines, is depending on rookies to win them games, and has never developed a QB in their entire history is, quite frankly, ridiculous.
Can we look at the roster and have hope for a winning season? Of course we can, but don't expect it.
Oh, and if they do underperform because we have a shitty offensive and defensive line and the quarterback is a rookie, firing Eberflus would only be setting Williams up for failure like they did with Fields. We already know that throwing a QB a new playbook after his rookie year is a recipe for disaster, so why would Poles want to make the same mistake all over again?
Something being overlooked by you guys is that Fluus does not have a winning record yet. He did not get enough blame for last year. Coming out flat in the beggining of the year and losing to the pack.....
My prediction last year was 7-10 nailed it! This year I'm going with 9-8 starting to sniff playoffs
That was also my initial guess looking at the schedule. In the "needs help to advance" category in the last week of the season.
Coaching lost us 3 games last year - Eberfluus is damn lucky for Montez Sweat.
Caleb needs to be better than CJ last year or it’ll most likely have been a mistake
But what they’re omitting is the domino affect of the HC being fired. So, the HC is fired going into next year… you either have to reverse engineer the search & find a HC that fits into the team (current OC,Defensive strategy,etc) vs finding best HC & letting him imprint his vision on organization… anyway your 1st overall pick QB of future is now on his 2nd HC in his 2nd year already (that’s a bad recipe & what the Bears & other bad teams do) & now your brain trust is completely out of sync… unless,Waldon is just amazing he’ll be fired the following season to enable the new HC to get this guy in there & have some autonomy- putting Poles on the clock (2 HC & 2OC) that’s all before you find another DC & hope he’s good. Before u know it it’s year 3or4 of Caleb’s rookie deal & depending on new regime is taking to their positions everyone is out of sync. The thing to do was to fire Eberflus along with bringing in Williams & Waldon(or another OC) & find a DC that has same defensive philosophy (that’s easier to do)
Yes, the don't have 2 elements you need. They not great on o line and d line .. until those units get stronger they limited. So 8 to 10 wins is wat I see. I think the o line gonna limit how great the offense can be and when they go up against good o lines ( Last GB game the def gonna be limited)
I don't buy having the best defense in the division. We are one Montez Sweat injury away to being below average imo. As a whole the Bears should 100% be better than last year.
This division will be shaken up this year. We see it every year and if Caleb is what we all think it’s the bears future. Will see.
I think it’s entirely on Caleb. If we win 8 games, it’s because he played mediocre. If he’s above average or great, we’re winning 9+. Caleb wont take any blame, but it’s all on him on how we do
I think we need to pump the brakes on the exuberance. We got our souls crushed thanks to the Packers in the first couple weeks of the season last year.
I’m still trying to figure out who’s the bigger nutcracker is. 😅
Bro by week one???? Lower your expectations dude. We got a lot of fresh blood they need time to develop. And holding flus to that too is absurd. We started over. New offensive coordinator and new qb. Is there a chance we’re good this year yes, but to hold everyone’s jobs to that with all these changes is ridiculous and unrealistic. We wound the clock back wake up.
Bears will win 12 games. They are stacked on offense, an above average defense, and a generational punter. Plus, an easy first half schedule.
Generational punter 😂😂😂
Defense should be top 10. Should be
Czech having been the best player on the field all his life has never really been challenged. But now he moves up to NF L which matches his ability. No one knows how he will react to games where he will not be the best player on the field . Will he accept the interceptions that will occur and the tough defeats? Only time will tell
If healthy, very realistic to see double digit wins with minimum 3-3 in division. Yes, Det the favorite in division, but Bears a difficult match up for them and Minn. need at least one GB victory. Let’s change the tide!
It's funny how the media comes up with all these expectations then act like the Bears were the ones who claimed these expectations.. Just let them play and wait until after the season to see if they met these expectations YOU THE MEDIA came up with.
10 or 11 wins
I really hope so they say it last year
Such a terrible thought process. If we were not fans of this team, and this wasn't "our" team, we would all be agreeing that this team is a playoff team.
CW will throw for 4,000 yds, 30 tds, and 10 picks. Look at other rookie qbs in the past with less talent.
From a year 3 jump to down by week 5 is a huge jump of expectation for a rookie
I’m a fan of Caleb even before he was drafted but he’s put those expectations out there with what he has already said
It’s all about injuries. If we have our squad out there w 8 wins the hell ya people will be upset. But we lose major pieces in the trenches or weapons then I can except 8 Ws if Caleb plays alright
10-7 is a realistic goal. 🐻 down
I want a Danny Parkins FS1 show.
Give him the morning segment and dump Carton.
Parkins is awful he legitimately thinks 8 wins is a bust for a season that has questionable o and d line along with a rookie QB regardless of how we think Williams will play he is a rookie who shows in his own highlights that he will throw picks at the NFL level due to the open window difference. Plus he has the same fumble issue that fields had which everyone expects to still be there given it rarely changes. Blaming the HC for an expectation the fans put on them is down right stupid thinking and parkins should actually have a thought instead of blowing Williams
8 games is a loser. Very upset. Get some balls ! BEARS FANS !
Yeah IDC if u have a worst season then last year after bringing all the weapons and a full season with sweat on the other side with the deffense.....nd the praise of Caleb being generation saposely.....would be a disaster
Enough of Caleb lets talk about how well we will run the ball an give Caleb time to throw the ball Bears football.
Lions are going to regress. Book it.
Well if I were an NFL Player nothing less than wanting a SUPER BOWL RING would be unacceptable. So as a fan I expect my team to strive for a Championship every year.
20-0
No they are not
Playoffs or BUST. Poles is gone no one getting 4 to 5 years. Wins over everything💯
Ridiculous
CW has to be better than CJ Stroud - he is “generational!”
Ridiculous
@@KellenMaicher I’m just repeating what we were told/sold!