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Pantera Review Prt 1
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- Опубліковано 12 сер 2024
- *** My thoughts on the the Pantera for the half dozen loads I sprayed with it. Keep in mind this is Part 1 of a 2 part series. So make sure you hit the subscribe button and stay tuned.
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CEO: So boys! What does Mitchell think of our new expensive premium product you promised to be the best on the market?
Mike: (bitching in the distance)
Engineers: (heavily sweating) he... he likes the view boss (nervous grin)
Hahahah 😂 best comment of the day!
I love how honest he is! Keep it going Mike
Honest Mike" "thats what i like about this guy keep it real brother
Thanks!
Cheers Mike i really appreciate the reply @@mikemitchell2554
I am sure the amazone guy is going to turn up one day and say, well you dont need to flip 6 screens to do that, just press this button here :)
And yet another great review!
Thanks Mike🙌
as allways, thanks for sharing. you got some awesome content mike!
We have exactly the same buttons in our Case tractor from 1989 and our dealer has tractors from the 1960s with exactly the same buttons
Really enjoy the reviews
Thanks for the thorough explanation Mike hopefully the manufacturer's watch your channel.
I have this same machine can spray for around 16hrs per tank of diesel. It’s quiet comfortable. Great gps, great Bluetooth radio , has 3inch fill and it’s very reliable and has a 3 year warranty, our machine has completed 1900hrs in about 19 months and we love it.
Yeah I dunno 🤷♂️ I was told that the EU sprayer is different from this one, they added some more power and made some tweeks to the NA sprayers .
I know the GPS is bad because it's Waas, and that's a terrible signal, teh worst you can run around here, but it can be upgraded like anything.
There is 3in load, but only on the side, which we don't use.
Another great indepth review
Hey you Mitchell's....we gotta talk the vid from yesterday...you guys were on a road trip 6 hours.....then when you panned a little to see your Lady real quick...her hair was perfect....wha...in Texas down here....we don't get that...yeah...thanks for taking us in the fields with ya....Im just a crane operator and heavy equip type....did you Dozing, gets so tiring...not farming crops. I pretend Im a farmer growing sweet corn with Dyna Grow fert.....but thats a wanna be.....so thanks and the details are pertinent to us operators.....if ya ever jump in a crane....be sure to ask hey....wheres the LMI override button....he he....so cool vids man
You will use and need the step when you top up the hydraulic oil rank. You will also get a more responsive transmission if you set the cruise control to the “+” setting. We use around 160litres of diesel doing around 500 acres, but ours was one of the last without def.
i guess this is exactly the type of thing they want to hear, from a farmer who is pushing their products to the max over massive amount of acres in limited time periods.
Great video Mike
Amazing Work
Mike you are awesome 👏🏻
You know Mike at the end of the day is really worth the free demo personally I think it's a waste of time it's like when they want to a more combine time is money we haven't got time for that stuff want to do a school show you how to stuff works what that time of the year you're busy you want to go and get things done and then the Bin
That road goes on forever and forever and forever .....
Good video! Well I guess the Pantera is primarly build for Europe what means narrow roads, limited top speed and small fields. A custom sprayer guy there is probably pretty happy with that exact fill feature but in your operation spraying full loads 9,9 times out of 10 it doesnt make much sense! Greetings from Uruguay
Yo ando con una za-ts 4200 en un JD 4730 y está espectacular, pero es una buena abonadora en un buen autopropulsado. La cabina del pantera parece la de los Stara brazucas
I have issues with your comments. I have worked my entire life trying to over complicate things and over design things and this, in my view is a perfect design. One for us engineers to strive for. I would have never thought of putting mini compartments inside of another compartment. Shear genius! Having the electric ball valve on the other side of from the control panel is easily fixed by adding another $10K-$20K screen in the front and provides us engineers more things to program and build. Great idea for a new feature! Thanks. The origami step is a beautiful design for making sure your not inebriated before allowing you to drive. Again, pure genius! For having to constantly move the boom up and down, .. seems like a land owner issue to me. You can easily fixed this by renting a few really large Caterpillar scrapers. This would give you something to do instead of farming and allow you to diversify your skills. :) :) :)
BTW, how much of what you learn here is from doing it and how much is from reading the manual while running it?
😂! What's a manual? 🤔🤷♂️
Oh, that's a funny comment! 😆👍
You can also have a John Deere 4600 Command Center monitor and John Deere GPS in it as a option if you don't like using the Topcon monitor.
Doesn't seem like Mike is going to be purchasing this unit any time soon
In the comments section of the video when it 1st showed up he said straight away it was a no-sale. So this review isn't a surprise.🗑 It's too bad. It would have been nice to hear that he'd found his 'forever sprayer'.😋💔
Send it packin. The Yer A Peeinz struck out with this one.
Hi Mikey...
One of the best sprayers on the market, is the American made AG Truck. Here in Australia, on our farm we run three vector 300's. Waiting for the bigger model to arrive for a field test, the AG TRK 430 with a 9ltr Cummings..
Look's like a bad ass machine. If the cup houlder is good Mike probably orders 3.
@@2000vph that's for sure.. and don't forget the sound system..😄
More manufacturers should let you demo their stuff. You give such an honest review good and bad points with no butt kissing.
Manufacturers.....their.......points.
@@anderleof Slightly drunk.......stupid auto correct on my phone.......but well spotted and corrected
Saludos desde Segovia los pulverizadores amazone son muy eficaces en las dosis me parece la mejor opción
great revue looks hard to just spay now do you remember the good old days where you fold the booms in and out manually and hoped for the best lol
I wonder if you'd be able to demo a Hardi Rubicon 9000, that looks like a big unit for a big farm, 9000 liter tank up to a 52m front mounted boom, does look expensive though
And the Hardi Rubicon comes with 4.35 times bigger diesel fuel tank than this Amazone Pantera.
The Hardi Rubicon has a 1000 liter (264 gal.) diesel fuel tank vs. only 230 liter (61 gal.) on this Amazone Pantera 4503.
Hardi Rubicon has a max road speed 35 mph (max) and a max spray speed of 20 mph.
Btw. the Hardi Rubicon uses Hardi HC 9600 display, which is a custom Ag Leader display.
Mike, how do you like the Ag Leader InCommand 1200 compared to the Raven Viper 4?
Seems to be a consensus! I think it's between the Rubicon and the JD R4060 for a farm this size. This thing is simply half the sprayer you need...
I also think the Rubicon's Cummins 8.9l 370hp diesel will pull any hill you have there...
@@ITubeTooInc Wow 230l fuel tank is ridiculous. But I guess on the bright side you can fill it with an ATV with a barrel in the back.
Hope you get a new Claas Lexion 8800 this year for testing
fuqSus they’re upgrading their fleet of JD’s to Fendt 9T Ideal
In my opinion a RoGator with a Viper 4 is the most user friendly and one of the most efficient high clearance sprayers out there
Viper 4s are awesome!
Well, the Welker fam is loving the Case Patriot. Maybe Case has fixed all the issues that you were having.
Very interesting vid👍I want to like Amazone but not well executed, I reckon Rogator is quicker in operation though would like drive new version.
Hey Mike. You should try the new Horsch Leeb PT. Horsch says it's the best sprayer.
It seems to be a rough ride by watching you in the field with it.
I believe I would be calling in two trucks. One for that really slow sprayer and one for that over heating 720. And saying so long to both of them.
Yeah.. I am looking at my options
Mike Mitchell Good luck buddy.
Yeah between the speed and the fuel thats a "no go" right off the rip. The extra BS just to get going adds to it. I will say, it is a visually appeasing sprayer the color combo and design is very cool, but besides that im not impressed. Im curious about the Hardi, but ive heard the visibility is terrible.
I can see you are using the Amazone Pantera 4503-W (Wide) version with a track width adjustment: of 2.25 - 3.00 m. The standard 4503 version only has a track width of 1.80 - 2.40 m in comparison. There's also a 4503-H (Heigh) version with up to 1.70 m clearance vs. 1.20 m for 4503 and 4503-W. But the track width is only a maximum of 2.60 m at full height for the 4503-H.
The Hardi Rubicon has a track width of 3.0 - 4.0 m in comparison and a clearance height of 1.85 m. That's the same track width as Apache 1240 btw.
I used to run a Patriot 3310. It definitely was much easier to run than technological death star of a sprayer that you got there. Granted the 3310 had no balls in the hills, but definitely not as complicated.
Hi Mike just watched this video. Machine does seem over complex. And that monitor does seem like overkill for what your needing to do with it. After running my apaches and terra gators. As to the monitor i have viper 4, topcon x30 and x20. I find now that i have the x30 set up its easy to use for me easier than the viper 4 it seems when i get in the viper 4 machines i think i have way to many pages to go thru to get a job set up lol. All in what you get use to i guess. I run the x30 in the machine i run because of the custom work it remembers all my guide lines so when i use my crop spec real time variable rate sensors i can run the same wheel tracts when i make multiple trips. As to the autosteer doing bad things at high speed thats all in how its adjusted i have got my so close now that i can follow a john deere rtk system and all i'm running is wasp Otherwise the viper 4 would be all we would run. Look forward to your next video.
Think i will stick to my old Outback S3. Pull in the field and go...No screwing around.
IF you puch an hold the button on the backside of the stick in every button get another function and you dont have to mess with that button that change color.
Greetings from Germany!
GWT123 wow! That’s weird
Filling that diesel tank up 4 times a day would be deal breaker for me.
It’s designed for mini farms located in Europe. Might be a good sprayer for people in California or NY/NJ/PA. Your operation has dedicated mixing/water trucks. So it’s not ideal solution for big land farmers. Plus your a super user so auto mixing feature will drive you crazy. I do love the boom lights be really cool if they had colors. Think disco field party with hot chicks. Ok maybe not
Reminds me of a Deutz Monitor
It’d be pretty cool if you demo a hagie sprayer
Does it ever glitch like the viper 4. I had been spraying right along. Started a field in the afternoon and booms wouldn’t turn on. Product control turned off all the sections. Took a call to support to figure it out. Also I’ll take my rogator over that pantara any day. 8.3 Cummins engine. I can run 36 mph and joy stick is super easy to use. A camera on the tires is nice feature though.
you must have a demo of an Agrifac Endurance 2
Case 44 series end of story mike
This was so clear....for Mike the hole sprayser is one class to slow...but okay. I guess you will know what sprayer you will use in the future. Not an Amazone. Can you try Hardi in Canada ?
that 25 mph is something from Europe sinds you aren't allowed to go faster than that in a lot of countries. and great vid keep it up
I thought most European brands like Fendt went faster than most american tractors. Our 8530 is pushing it to do 26 lol
Wil Hudson Yes, tractors are capable of going up to 37 mph (60 kph) But at least in Germany you than have to pay tolls on some federal roads. Also your tractor (and trailer) have to undergo a half annually safety inspection, additionally to your yearly technical inspection (if your tractor is over 10t of weight). So yes, technically European tractors are able to drive fairly quick, but due to some regulations it‘s just to much of a hustle for most and they end up limiting their top speed electronically to avoid it. Although many contractors with big fleets often times exploid this top speed because for them time is even more money than for the normal farmer.
@@Hudsonfarms0530 just the tractors are allowed to faster then 40kph / 26mph
Up to 60kpm in Germany.
Combines and other self propelled farming vehicles not.
Otherwise you would need a truck lincens and insurance and all the pain that comes with it.
@@henningquast8456 over here in Belgium every agricultural vehicle is limited to 45kph even with the insurance of a truck and and with a truck license.
There is a 30mph / 50kmh version, i'm quite sure that the dealer can update. As it is limited in software only.
You don’t need to depress the break to move. Well not on mine anyway. Also mine goes 53kph or about 32mph. They have changed the boom lights now. Not so complicated to get too.
try a damman. my internship has a 3 axle one, 33 meters wide (because of small, not wide fields they rent) but 12.000 liter tank. (a 9000 and a 3000 liter tank if im right)
Try a front boom sprayer next
Hi Mike.. Hope you're having a great Saturday.. Thank you for the review... Lots of plastic on new equipment 🤔
Hi Mike. my 4502 W wil do 53 km/ph on eco. or 60 when its of.
8:55 you should demo on of those
If you have to choose one right now pantera or Apache?
Are u going to demo a hardi Saritor or Rubicon? We have a Saritor with a 48.5m (160ft) on oyr farn and it is a sweet machine.
Would you try a challenger sprayer
Watching your sprayer videos while running my sprayer is not good. I hear your beepers and I panic looking at my monitors to make sure it's not my machine. Glad over complicated monitors bother you too. I was worried it was just me.
Did you find another apartment for those raccoons? Lol Great video. God bless you all.
Do an r4060 review
Seems to me like jd sprayers still top notch units and great all round machines with mint power
Those Case Patriots kick butt
Mike do you testing a Fendt Sprayer too ?
wants 18th century sight tube with little red ball u cant see after a year but doesnt want 18th century buttons haha
Haha 😂 not a ball, they stick.. Just a tube, I can replace it for $2 half way through the season.
When you said it won't go to 1205 you weren't kidding eh? The monitor said 1204 haha!
Have you looked at the hagie sprayers?
Its a gps. It should already know where your at and how you got there. Why do you have so much info to type in when u get there? 😉
Are you going to demo the new jonh deere sprayer also?
The reason you have to go down the ladder backwards Mike is simple, SAFETY, in the UK, when you have to take a test on a computer and then an assessment on site, you have to climb into your vehicle and have 3 points of contact to access and exit your vehicle, it's far safer to exit plant equipment backwards, yes I know it's different on farms, but England is mad for rules, I don't agree with all of them, but if you don't pass your exams, get your sperate licence for EVERY piece of equipment, you don't work. Period.
Try fendt rogator 665 or 655 :)
So Mike, I've seen people discussing it in replies to each other's comments, but I've never seen anyone directly ask you: Any thoughts on the Dammann DT 3500 H S5 (triple axle, 12.000l tank) and the Fendt Rogator 6000 (likely contender to be the most user-friendly and comfortable)? If you got the chance to test them, would you? Both only have a small fuel tank (250l and 310l respectively), but both do 50kmh according to the book. I'd be curious to see what you think.
Mike have you ever run any Versatile tractors?
I think your blood pressure increased a little in the end?😄
Gotta try a new holland sprayer
You might like it
Same as Miller Nitro.
Great sprayer.
Hey mike I’ll drive it if you want
The flashers seem excessively loud
"if we put a nice seat on this steaming pile of 💩, a guy like mikey will still like it."
it's almost like agco knows it's customer base really really well
A short guy like me will.
I couldn’t run that thing id be all confused because I’m color blind.
Отличный аппарат!!!Пантера вне конкуренции! Сколько по времени у вас занимает заправка?
Hey Mike love your videos man. I live in the states in southwest Iowa. That sprayer kind of looks and sounds like a piece of crap. I would take my R4038 John Deere any day over that thing. I'm a certified applicator and I hope to never run into one of those things.
Hey Mike, have you ever thought about demoing a Hagie sts sprayer,
I have, but no one has brought me one 🤷♂️
Pls Test a Fendt Rogator Sprayer
Yeah, that is the only one 💪🏻
You should be using your global home screen. And you also don’t have the monitor set up right.
I didn't set it up, I expect that to be done by the manufacturer - who was down with 3 people representing them and 1 from the dealer.
Mike, it seems like you need a sprayer built on a truck chassis. That way you could do 70mph down the roads to get to your fields. With the crops you grow, how much clearance do you really need?
I have sprayed alot acres in a truck mounted sprayer back in the day
Mike Mitchell Talk to the Welkers about test driving the Big Brutt as it has awesome speed.😂🤣
Trucks are rough as guts in the field
And they really only have 8in of clearance under the front axle
2wd and little tyres add to the problems
We still have the V8 Mercedes sitting out the back of the shed returning to dust
Had a 3000lt tank and a 60ft boom with blog dobber markers
No exhaust no clutch and no brakes
That old bitch was totally different to modern equipment no being gentle and looking after the gear
Hit a hill in the field? Smash it back to bog cog and put the pedal though the floor and hold on if you stop your stuffed
We had 2 seat belts out of a Datsun pick-up that crossed over so it was sort like a farmer's 6 point harness
They make much better trucks now around the hinos and izusu 4x4 trucks
But they still use little truck tyres
Even tug along sprayers are rough compared to self propelled sprayers
Tractors just aren't ment to do 40kph 24mph across a field
Mazzotti maf 6240😎
Mind boggling German kit!!😂🤣Apache picked it's feet up!!👍👌😎
Hey Mike ..................... have you seen anything on the new John Deere X11 harvesters????? They look pretty impressive from what I've seen so far!!
I asked him the other day he said he was disappointed. As am i. Seems Claas and Fendt and New Holland still own the market.
Mike!!!!! that thing has me frusterated and i am not even in the cab!!!The flimsy storage covers everywhere,the latches,waiting for the very dangerous ladder to go up,Who has 2 inch FILL!!?And the icons and symbols and navigation of the monitor function....I can feel the frusteration in your voice.Too bad you have to empty your bank account to run a machine that runs like nothing else. Mike please beg your brother for a day in the 4060.Wanna see what you think of it.
I think that day will come forsure, the Trident 🔱 and Rogator are up first, but I have to take time off now and focus on my wedding 😂..
What is the cam lock cover for under the water meter on the left side of the machine? It must be a loading port also.
Yes, I believe it is
In the AGRITECHNICA video of the spreayer the guy said that you could load from there. Is that one a 3 inch port?
Trey the agrifac endorance 8000
But Mike, you have all the time in world to go spray. What's a extra few minutes to get moving? Lol
You can really see that this sprayer is originally made for the EU market
Are you guys going to pull that power pole and meter out of the old farmhouse site?
Yes
Изучение инструкции по эксплуатации сделает управление опрыскивателем максимально комфортным !
Mike.....which is your favourite sprayer?? It’s all too easy to pick the shit out of everything....
I know this video is about the Pantera but how many acres can you do in a day with the spray plane and how does it compare to the sprayers?
Depending completely on the wind and weather.. Like an SP unit u can double shift and run in the wind... We don't have 2 pilots, and spraying half a day in the plane is as exhausting as spraying 16hrs in the SP unit..
But hopefully as much to over double one SP unit..