How to Build Boxes for Furniture - An Intermediate Woodworking Guide
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
- Building boxes and cabinet making for woodworkers at an intermediate level.
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In this video I'm going over some tips and tricks for how I build boxes that are going to be incorporated into furniture projects. In addition to building a pair of mitered boxes, for a modern furniture project...one from plywood and one from hardwood...I also talk about box making in general, that will hopefully benefit you regardless of what style of woodworking you're into.
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Lets pause for a moment to appreciate the amount of time, and material resources, this guy has devoted to show the rest of us how to properly build boxes. I feel very humbled by this video.
You're too kind :)
Amen brother.
+1
Loved this breakdown of "plywood vs hardwood." As someone with limited tools due to space issues, this definitely helps. I think I'm a plywood guy yearning to be a hardwood guy. One day!
Now is the time to do it, from what I hear plywood is getting pricey!
+1
I haven't fully red this book ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxbnOKZBE4evMO5V2vroHeCjq6d_MV6wJO yet but it is a good basic understanding of the different woods that all woodworkers should know.
Thanks for the shout Chris! Great rundown on box building!
Thanks Brother :)
@@Foureyes.Furniture and then the pretty bad
We love you
This video is 3 years old and and a great watch for any amateur wood worker who is trying to up their skills, the detail and time that 4eyes has put into this is to be commended but the little tips setting the saw to just past 45 is a great trick that I would not have known had he not mentioned it. This is why you need to subscribe to this channel. He builds great furniture, whether it is to your particular liking or not is not as relevant as the great information and techniques that are shared. PS i love your designs they are very much to my likening. Plans are available on the website for those interested.
An especially great trick if you saw is capped at 45 lol
i've ended up into the world of woodworking by accident (literally) and im a beginner, and to find your and shaun's channel has been so helpful, and honestly, you guys have been inspiring not only because of woodworking, but also, because of the video editing, music, camera settings, script, sketchups drawings (mybe not sketchup), video description and links, and all the details that comes with making this video. so i guess i just can say THANK YOU GUYS! greetings from Chile
Thanks Rodrigo. If it's Chris is Sketchup...if it's Shaun its Fusion :)
The 44.9 degree miter trick all on its own makes this video awesome! Great content throughout. Thanks for sharing👍
I've spent most of my life working doing commercial construction work, and some experience in residential construction.
Framing ( wood and metal), concrete, drywall ( hanging and finishing), building and the installation of custom cabinets, finish carpentry, and painting.
I've been making the transition from construction work to wanting to build custom furniture.
I've started off with smaller projects such as making jewelry boxes and ring boxes. Trying to hone in my skills a little more building and making smaller projects first.
I've found your videos extremely helpful, even with some of the experience that I have.
I'm always opening to learning something new, and or different ways.
Thank you.
Thanks Eric...glad you found us and that the videos are helpful to you. Appreciate the kind words. :)
Wow. This is such high quality content I feel like I should have paid to watch this and the panel video that brought me here.
The two of you put so much valuable knowledge into every step of the way. I watched both just expecting to enjoy your content, in addition to that I feel like I've learned something for every stage of these processes. Keep up the fantastic work fellas.
Absolutely killer content as always! I really love this deep dive idea. I'd love to see one on templates on how to route them!
The level of detail while keeping it simple is unmatched for a video like this, such a great video!
What an awesome video! Experience is the most difficult part of teaching anything because there are so many variables that go unnoticed -- especially after years growing expertise. A lot of UA-camrs miss including a bit of the stuff they learned in the beginning of their woodworking experience, overlooking details that may not be crucial, but are impactful to the final project. You do an exceptional job of covering questions that pop into my head as I'm watching, which is (believe it or not) a gift. This is the quality that separates mere teachers from great teachers that can neither be taught nor truly learned. Giving the gift of knowledge that can allow a student to use your experience and knowledge as a solid foundation to their own journey to mastery is a demonstration of true altruism. If more people understood the true value of extraordinary teachers, we (Americans) wouldn't be so quick to view teachers as disposable and pay them like burger-flippers. The challenge for students is to find the teacher with both the expertise AND the gift. I hope everyone watching this channel will share it with everyone you know who is remotely interested in woodworking or what quality furniture looks like during its construction and maybe some of them will migrate away from big box stores and invest in the kind of handmade furniture that craftsmen and women can and do create. Or, learn to craft some for themselves.
I recently had to give up riding a motorcycle, which was a big part of my daily mental health care. I just rediscovered woodworking which I'd been taught in a public school as a kid. I thought it was a lot of fun, then, and built some stuff that I was pretty proud of back then. When the class was finished, I moved onto other stuff: music, journalism, history, literature in high school and college, completely forgetting about my experiences in both wood and metals when I was young.
I gravitated toward professions that were pretty far removed from trades, though my dad had been a professional welder/steel fabricator. And the further I got from doing creative stuff, the more anxious and aimless I felt. It never occurred to me that the problem might be in that tendency away from making stuff that might be the root of the problem. All I felt was that despite holding an advanced degree and doing everything in my power to convince myself that I was much too smart for trade work, I was miserable and continued effort to engage in everything designed to make me compliant and engaged with my work, from self-help and business success books to corporate classes and workshops we think will mold our behavior and make us better people, finally to prescription medication and intensive therapy -- none of which accomplished the goal of making me a well-balanced employee, citizen, or human being.
I don't know if it's all as simple as taking up woodworking or rediscovering my love of the outdoors or even buying another motorcycle. But, somehow, I feel like it's all part of a bigger trend that subordinates people who aren't professionals simply because they're not then using that criteria as a rule to elevate the money-makers above the service providers, creators, and teachers that made our society. Literally.
I know this is far afield of the subject of this video, but not so far as you think. In the not too distant future we will have automated a majority of jobs to the point that we'll be faced with the very serious dilemma of redefining what it means to work. My job won't exist. Ironically, the sponsor of this video, Policy Genius, is a great example of this trend. But, like all static troves of information, it will never be a true substitute for the insurance agent that has your back. All coverages are NOT created equal. All variables that can be covered by one or another policy cannot be homogenized to the point of one size fits all for the sake of efficiency and market share. But that's the trend. We do these things at our own peril. When robots and computers, 3D printers and CNC machines take over woodworking and the craftsman no longer has access to the base materials of his work, we will have lost yet another art vital to the progress of humanity.
We are not designed to sit in offices and cubies monitoring the WEENUS. And it's especially destructive when corporate leadership lauds performance based solely on company growth, as if connecting with and providing for their clients and customers meant nothing. Beauty is important. In a world of robot craftsmen and women, there can never again be another Da Vinci, Frank Lloyd Wright, or Carroll Shelby.
Thank you for allowing us to share your knowledge and experience, it's a tremendous gift and priceless. I'm here to save my soul and will be for a while. Thanks for letting me hang out, too. I'll try not to get in the way. Cheers!
Just wanted to comment on how clean and organized your shop is. I know a lot of people don’t think it’s too important but in my opinion, it’s a huge deal. Your workspace should reflect your product, and it’s clear that it does in your case. Also, a clean shop is so much more welcoming and helps start your day on a positive note, at least that’s my philosophy. I have a lot of respect for neatness
So glad to hear somebody like you say wood movement is overblown, especially if you’re starting with properly dried materials
YES! I was just thinking this morning that it’s been too long since a new Foureyes video came out!
perfect timing...we got another one coming out in about a week as well...a bit one :)
Chris Salomone NICE!!
I have been having issues with my boxes and I feel like I’m just not setting my blade angles correctly. Thank you for showing how you set and use your tools!
44.9 degrees! Its those little tips that elevate the content Mr Salomone. Thanks!
Great info, Chris. I'm 71 and have been a hobbyist woodworker for over 30 years and I'm still always looking for tips and new ideas to learn. Thanks. Yes, thicknii (wink). No scrapsketball? Take care. Bill
Yessss. Haven’t even watched it yet but this is what I’ve been hoping for. My boxes are always terrible!
Hope it helps :)
@@Foureyes.Furniture You can never have too many clamps.
Thank you for being so generous with your knowledge. And please stop apologizing. You are entitled to your bias (preference), though you didn’t have the appearance of it. You did not communicate a prejudice for or against any particular material or practice. You did give a truly informative Peace on the basics of box building.
Very helpful video. I am very much a novice and have often wondered why people seem to use plywood such a lot but I think I truly understand now.
I recently came across your channel and I'm really enjoying the content. As someone who started working with wood in high school back in 1980 (yeah, I'm old), I really enjoy your presentation style. I've learned something in every video I've watched, and even if I'm not much of a mid-century modern furniture guy, I have mad respect for the pieces you guys create. As an award-winning video editor, I will also say your videos and story telling is quite good. I watch more of your content than pretty much all other woodworking channels combined because of the way you craft each story, in addition to crafting the piece. You also deal with the craft of woodworking in a sensible and non-dogmatic manner, which is refreshing. I now design technical systems and I always tell my customers that all design is a compromise. There are many ways accomplish a system and which way you choose is based on what is most important to you. You articulated it well at the end of this video. Which is better, plywood or hardwood? It depends. What matters more to you and to this project? Both are valid options and while we may have our biases, the true craftsman can create a beautiful piece from either material. Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge and experience in a compelling and artful manner.
This vibe is so relaxing.
Fantastic video! Love your use of "thicknigh" (multiple thicknesses) :P
Those boxes are luscious
Great content. And you are one of the few to speak the truth about wood movement. People always speak about it like if it would move and walk by its own while it is just a bit of expansion/contraction
How much wood moves depends on a number of things. When wood does move on you a lot you'll learn a hard lesson then too.
@@1pcfred I know but still is not like it will move as I said, and walk. Even in the most extremes cases if done correctly is not a big deal.
A thurogh guide like this on making hard wood panels for rough wood, could be nice 👍👍
Excellent. That’s it.
Great tip on the caps inside the mitres rather than out!
That tip on cutting your bevels just proud of 45 is a lifesaver.
Nice video thanks from south India
Thickni will soon be in the dictionary, never fails to make me smile. Lots of good info, makes me more inclined to try different things. Thank you.
Truth...hardwood is better. Thanks for all those great tips Four...I’m pleased to meet you. And that destructive test on the box really gave some perspective on how strong the glued mitre is. Good stuff!
As a weekend diy guy making random boxes and shelves. This is great
Great points, Chris, and well organized video format. I've been using plywood quite a bit lately and have felt the need to do some hardwood projects, my house is starting to feel like a baltic birch museum. I like the idea of using thicker hardwood for edging as well, need to try that one. Thanks!
I am building my first furniture grade box now, and even for a simpel box, there are so many decisions to be made. Thank your for clearing that up, in a easy to understand way 👍
Glad it was helpful!
Very informative video..beginner here. Thanks for the video
Awesome video mate! Great explanations for those of us who are starting out.
Chris's heisenberg transformation has completed
Say my name.
Liked how you talked over your content on the past 4 eyes videos then this one and there was less of it. I know it’s tuff and a lot that goes into this just there’s 4 videos in one here. It’s not as calming as your other content but that’s just me. I will continue to keep watching. Peace!
wow, this is not a tutorial this is a masterclass!
Thank you Heisenberg
Really appreciate the video, and will be applying some of these ideas for a tortoise enclosure that is going to be 5' by 3'. I think I would like to work with hardwood but due to moisture in the tortoise enclosure - even with sealing the wood and adding a pvc liner, I think my project is going to be better suited to plywood this time.
thank you very much! Im building a computer monitor stand and this video was very helpful
I love these straightforward videos. You should create an online course. Seriously, you offer tons of amazing advice!
The plan builds are kind of that. We’re actually thinking about doing that once we have a good catalog of plans put together.
@@Foureyes.FurnitureMe avisem pois o seu trabalho é dedicação, inspira a ser perfeccionista, não disponho das ferramentas, mas temos que fazer com o que temos da melhor forma possível, sempre melhor! Gratidão pela didática que nos apresenta. Parabéns!
Thanks
Excellent explanation! Tnx a lot.
Bien Echo 😉👍🏽 Nicely Done 🪚🔨📐 Keep Up The Good Work
Fantastic advice, thankyou. Simple, articulate and very useful. You also invented a new word 'thick-ni'. 😄👍
Excellent video!
You guys are damn good at what you do. From craftsmen, to show runners, to teachers. I wouldn’t watch a bunch of soy-infused hipster dorks any other way. Kudos to your acumen.
I love these youtubers who enter a craft for a handful of years, a craft that is been around for hundreds of years, and now they think there going to teach us how to do it better. Clearly they are catering to the ignorant
Very nice and informative video guys!
I particularly appreciated the strength test. A few years ago I saw a lecture by a well regarded structural engineer who was custom designing a canopy that would employ laminated glass as a structural element. There were no mathematical formulas for this so he basically did the same thing. He had a glass shop built a few representative assemblies and then they loaded them to failure... several times until he was satisfied.
Wow...I haven't stopped into your channel for a while...you were still working in your garage. Nice to see the way you've grown!
Welcome back...it's good to have you! :)
Thanks bro love your videos.
Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute...... this dude pulled out a Mario Brothers ruler! All the woodpeckers hanging there on the wall, but no he chose Mario Brothers !! love these guys even more now
I always pay attention to Nike sneakers in your videos, as I am a huge fan of shoes, but my preference is Reebok Club C 85, in my opinion this is a great model that has not lost its relevance after 35 years.
You are a great teacher. Very well planned lesson
Miter joints are great for contrasting splines!
Bald and beard suits you perfectly!!!!!!!
Explained and shown so well, thank you.
Love these videos and thank you for doing them!
Careful of overusing "that said".
Great topic
Before watching your video
I love your idea
I comment again after watching :)
Very good video. I learned new ways to do things and that is always enjoyable . Thank you.
This is the box master class
That's a lot of details 👍🏻🪛🪚🔨
Loving the “Thickni” wink! Thanks again!
Another great video & so many helpful tips!! And the interaction with each other will never get old!!!!! Hoping all is well guys, Dirty Jersey out!!!
Very helpful comparison! Thank you very much.
I think you convinced me to try hardwood on a kitchen cabinet I’m building - the whole kitchen is made from 3/4” (18mm) domestic ply but I’m thinking about using some 4/4 hard maple I have from another project. The cabinet will be the focal point when coming into the kitchen so I may rebuild it in hardwood... Thanks!
Is it just one cabinet? Or your kitchen cabinets? If the latter, that is actually a situation where I’d probably go with plywood and a hardwood edge
This one cabinet is all I’m making out of solid maple. The rest of the kitchen is already done using plywood and edge banding :-)
Chris speaks with a melody in his voice
I did used to write and sing songs. I guess I'm not totally out of the game :)
This is great. I appreciate you taking the time to break this down into so many minutiae. Some of this material is in books but video gives greater context. Wow.
I really like how your channel has changed lately. Good wörk!
Thanks!
Those miter tips,👍
Great video! Really good to hear your thoughts on the when’s and what’s, and the why’s , whatever that means. Cheers x 4
Best video you’ve ever made. Thank you.
thanks a lot for sharing your experiences! Love the shy/proud angle concept!
“…whatever thicknii are available…” 19:26
I surely can’t be the only one who loved this delivery and wink???
❤😂
hermano sos un crack! me despejaste un montón de dudas
Excellent video. Thank you!
I made a credenza based on one of your designs as my first woodworking project last year. I used butt joints and my box turned out good but it had 91 and 89 degree corners. I had to use a circular saw because my dads table saw he let me use was only had 12 inches on each side of the blade. When I Assembled it I used glue and screws then covered the cheap plywood in walnut veneer. I tried making drawers but they don’t work that well.
I even liked the ad!
Always find your videos helpful; thanks!
Super helpful video! Definitely will save for future reference.
Thanks
@21:32: that is NOT a dead blow hammer. Dead blow hammers do NOT bounce back as seen when this rubber hammer bounces back every time. Dead blow hammers have some sort of heavy shot, lead or steel, inside that moves to the impact face when the hammer impacts something. This causes all of the energy of the blow to go into the impacted item. When your hammer bounces back, energy has been stored in the hammer and is released when it bonces back. Steel hammers do this to a lesser degree than anything elastic as rubber, because steel, as much as elastic to a small extent as well. That energy stored in the hammer, causing bounce back, does not transfer to the impacted item. The idea of making the miters 44.9° vs. trying for exactly 45° is a great idea. Now that you have pointed this out, it is obvious. I don't know why I didn't think of it. Thanks for pointing that out.
Thanks Chris.
Thanks!
Great video Chris - wish I had a clear explanation of this topic when I started woodworking.
Great video Chris! Starting my wood working journey and videos lime these really help. Appreciate all the work you guys put into these.
I love dovetails in youtube videos, I can’t be bothered to make them myself tbh as you wont see them anyway after the white paint 😁
Dovetails were popular before we had effective modern adhesives. Back then they really did not have much choice but to use them. Yellow glue is stronger than wood though.
Great video
Awesome video
Literally decided to subscribe by minute 3 of this video
Great video, found it very informative! Thanks for posting, always enjoyable.
Super informative and helpful. Thank you! Would love to see more videos like this.
Glad it was helpful!
Great video. Saving this for reference, thank you.
"Shop Accidents that may happen," he must be talking to you Mr. Boyd.
I just found your channel. Your tone, creativity, and production value are amazing. Thanks so much for the work you're putting in and your relaxed attitude. It is so refreshing!
My first test is to just make a basic box so great video!!! 19:30 made me laugh!!