Toyota Tundra TRD Pro | Not for Amateurs
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
- We drive the new 2022 Toyota Tundra TRD Pro Hybrid to determine if this is a legit off-road truck. We discuss the pros and cons and technical details of how the truck works and the changes to suspension and interior. This is based on the new Land Cruiser in terms of design. Would you choose this over the Ford F150 Raptor, RAM TRX, and, Chevy Silverado Trail Boss?
#tundra #toyota #TRDpro
Index:
00:00 Interior Impressions and Technology
1:45 Mechanical Impressions
5:10 Drive Off Road
9:26 Final Thoughts - Авто та транспорт
"The light bar is super impressive, it really lights up the road under the right conditions... like on the interstate"
Every jackass is gonna drive with them on blinding everyone
Ah, I see you've seen every brodozer ever.
Is that why I randomly go blind from someone behind me while minding my business driving on the highway at night?
I personally want to punch every muthafuckah who drives at night with their high beams on whist behind or approaching oncoming traffic. It rude and unthoughtful!
Especially at night.
I can already see one of these coming up behind me in the rearview mirror on the highway when doing the speed limit and still catching up like I’m standing still in my little 90s 800kg hatchback. High beams and LED bar on so that I have to start wearing a welding helmet to be able to see anything
Nah that’s your Jeep drivers. Tundra drivers pass on the shoulder for no reason at all
You can already see it. I already have. That light bar is obnoxious on the highway, and the owner was too proud of it to turn the damn thing off. Thank God for tinted windows, they were the only thing that saved my vision that morning.
You should probably gtfo of the left lane then....
Move out of the way then? No one drives the speed limit. If you want to move out of the way and no one will want to sit behind you
@@cummins24421 😂😂😂 especially doing the damn speed limit
as a Miata driver - i look forward to having that light bar behind me shining into my mirrors while i drive in the city
I literally just bought an ND and didn’t consider this, damn.
@@dancarlos1216 With your purchase decision track record in mind, would you like to buy some life insurance?
@@dancarlos1216 auto dimming rear view mirrors help. 20% tint helps massively too when the top is up. But absolutely, so many bright LED headlights out there now.
nothing like a twin turbo v6 breathing in your neck at each stoplight
@@GOLD_FEVER I also ride supersport motorcycles street and track, I’m a bit of a risk taker lol
“It’s your brand preference “ - the most honest review ever !
Always has been ya?
And that is Toyota! Compare this with the Ford raptor 10 years from now. I see this retaining its value much better.
@@commoncents5191 I love my Taco!
Jack & Mark, would you consider another minute or two on the mechanical segment? Adding tidbits like the potential level of difficulty for changing the oil filter, draining coolant, replacing starter etc? Right to repair seems to be dwindling nowadays. With "family vehicles" like the Tundra I see people owning them longer than their "fleet oriented" (Ford) competitors. Food for thought.
Would also be nice to see payload capacity and gvwr (even though it will be a sample size of 1). It's hard to find this information online.
We can look at that going forward.
@@savagegeese also showing potential weak spots like plastic parts that shouldn’t be plastic. Things that affect long term reliability. Please be the first reviewers to do this!
That was Turbowski's job...
+1 I would like that information
I bet those new upgrades really make a giant difference running over curbs at the local Whole foods. Personally i’d just buy a Ridgeline or Taco and spend the leftover cash on a lifetime supply of T-supplements.
Average size American does not fit in a Tacoma. Or at least not very well. May as well save money and buy a Corolla. Has more space up front.
@@gs98999 I am a 6'1" American but I fit fine in mine due to bad posture.
@@gs98999 Except the dash sticks into the door opening by about 6 feet. I had one as a rental, at 5’11”, I was constantly smashing my knee into the corner of the dash on entry.
There’s also the complete lack of power…
damn, you need t-sups? feels bad man.
Ridgeline?!?!?!
I agree with the final assessment. All pickups these days are solid vehicles, with each manufacturer going about it in slightly different ways. Mark is right, it is now down to whatever truck tickles your fancy the most. You will likely be happy with any major brand. I'm a "Ford guy" that also owns 4 GM trucks. Whatever gets the job done....
I can't speak to low end trims, but if you go from a Ford/GM/Dodge to a Tundra you will quickly notice a lot of features and creature comforts you took for granted to be missing.
Bruh. This was the most rushed video with the least analysis I’ve seen from them. Review, it’s not the best. It’s not the worst. Conclusion, buy the brand u like, they’re all the same at this point.
@@mannykings5 he said it was gonna have the least analysis. Go watch the other Tundra video.
It would be really nice if they didn't just go with the oversight that all trucks are very good. All trucks are very comfortable for sure But in terms of the vehicle nickel and diming you in front and components like the three big American companies have over the years especially in the 4 Wheel Dr. models is not even comparable. I'll be curious to see how the competition stacks up after five years which is where trucks really start to shine and what they're built for, last 10 years With minimal drama and maintenance
This New Tundra Pro takes assholery to a whole new level unseen since the inspection of the original, humble-man, Tundra of yesteryears.
@DOGS LOL The problem with the small trucks is that they're so insanely priced today that it almost makes sense to just go for the 1500 truck instead.
I totally can’t wait to drop 68 G’s plus dealer extra sauce on this V6 truck. That’s happening just as soon as I get out of my mom’s basement and of course it depends how much I’ll get on my trade-in, a Schwin ‘76 Sting-Ray bicycle.
Please do more Q&As they are so informative, and funny 😁
Huge fan, Love you guys! Audio levels seem low on this one, have to turn it way up and then the commercials come on and blast me out. Keep up the great and hilarious content!
I have a white Tundra with a 13" lightbar mounted on the front. A limited slip(Locker someday?) A black hood accent and Falken wildpeak a/t tyres. Which have been the best set off tyres I've ever owned. Also, a Moonroof with the slide down rear window. Except my Tundra is a 2005 Limited with a 4.7L 2uz-fe V8 producing around 260hp as advertised. More around 220hp. Just hit 250k miles two days ago. We had a birthday party for her. Got her a oil change and all that good stuff. Yes the frame is rusted in some areas. Yes my gas cap lock also rusted off so it now just flops in the wins, hanging from one screw because the other screw rusted and broke. I still love the old girl.
really enjoyed this video. I would never own a truck like this but I love you guys presentation of it. Thank you
I'm surprised the fox shocks in this didn't get more praise. On my previous gen Sequoia they are amazing both off road and on road. It's IRS however.
The new tundra is super sick, truth be told, I’d like to see Toyota do something similar with the Tacoma. Parallel hybrid, turbo and what not
No it isn’t lol. Looks so awful.
They will add the v6 turbo within 3 years.
According to carbuzz recent article with the engineer on the new Tacoma, “it will not be as polarizing as the Tundra”.
New Tundra/Sequoia both look great indeed. They are styled as an evolution of the Tacoma design which to me has been the best looking truck for the past decade now. So it will be interesting to see what direction Toyota takes with the next one. Turbo 4 is a guaranteed lock. Parallel hybrid not so sure..
@@kenkozawa9810 Everyone seems to think they’ll offer a tuned down turbo v-6 paired to a hybrid, an twin turbo i4 and an electric. They know it’s their #1 seller. I think we’ll see a few Tundra ques mixed with the a Tacoma. If they go to radical, it could impact sales. This is why I think it won’t be as big as an exterior change as people are thinking.
I have spent a lot of time on old, bad forest service roads in the middle of nowhere for my job for many years. Tundras are a no go, they’re just too big to fit on those roads (most new trucks have this problem). My work trucks were F150s and eventually TRD Tacomas and they were used hard. Hands down the Tacoma was the most capable vehicle I drove but it had a flaw where driving over washboard roads the front and back sensors in the diffs would get out of sync and it would kill the 4x4 and the dealer would have to reset the computers. Overall the F150, especially the 2012 with the V8, was the best truck. Comfy, reliable off road, and was nice on long highway drives. I honestly miss that truck.
You must be kidding. That same year I've found to be a dog. Broke every time it was needed. Last thing was the steering shaft that is out of line for only Ford reasons seizing and trying to kill me. Prior to that by six months it was the power train and alternator. This truck has 58k kilometres and is essentially a throw away. Rams are rush buckets near any salt or salt water and GM is proudly the best of the worse. Had them all and now drive the Tundra because of the others.
@@dukekelloway5328 I understand that. It’s why we switched to Tacomas, other than the one issue I had, they were incredibly tough, capable, and reliable trucks. If I was going to own one myself it would be an older Tundra. I just don’t care for how big and bulky the all newer trucks have gotten for what I use them for. I did really like that older ford but maybe it was because it was owned and maintained by a government agency and the shops had a blank check to replace whatever they wanted on it whenever. Probably why I never had problems. But when we switched to newer ecoboost F150s they had problems and that’s why we went with Toyotas.
@@brandenj576 best toyota tundras 2002-2006 . Bullet proof 4.7L engine . ive seen them multiple times with 1 million miles , and theyre smaller than the new tacomas
@6:07, you didnt have to line up the drone shot with the interior sound. But you did anyway, thats the attention to detail that stands far and above the other outlets. Bravo
That’s a very easy edit, but not all channels bother with it.
@@Ethan7s when your dealing with gigabytes of footage. It’s def easier to throw in a random shot or flyby
@@KevinBurkeRacing true enough
Mark I love the sarcasm in the begging of the video
Enjoy your banter. Just two dudes talking cars. No BS. All about the joy of behind the wheel…
I personally say this is a win for Toyota. The new power train is sketchy sure but I’ve heard mostly good things when it works, and tbh this is more than enough truck without having to launch it off a sand dune or a mountain
I honestly would spring for an older TRD Pro because the reliability factor is there. The only 2 problems the previous generation has is rust (just undercoat every year) and sometimes the starter motor fails and it's a total PITA to remedy but that's highly unlikely.
Honestly the new Tundra looks great ino. Makes me very excited for the 6th gen 4Runner
I like my 2016 f150 eco, because it's paid off!
Had the same Red Vinyl in my ‘76 Pontiac LeMans.
Not sure if anyone has ever said it, but I REALLY love the end theme. Just gives me a shot of dopamine and I’m ready to tackle the day lol thank you for the review. I’ve wanted one but just can’t justify the coin. Rather mod a lower trim level.
They actually have a video on it - I think it's about nostalgia and how it's from a game Mark is nostalgic about
End theme makes me want to load up some Gran Turismo.
I'd buy this over the American trucks any day of the week. Better looks, better build quality, better reliability.
Yeah the Toyota plant in San Antonio, Texas can't make enough of them.
Perfect music lol. Instant like.
Trucks🤦🏻♂️ garbage cans with wheels and I’m here watching this review because tiffs channel is so good.
Love those camo seats
I like the intro to every video. It gives me a few seconds to thumbs up👍
The new Tundra body style is hot like the old Mustang 2 body style. Nailed it. 🙃
WHOA!!! Why am I not seeing a review of that golf cart?!? REVIEW THE CART!!!
Like on the interstate! 😂
They won’t even remember that the damn light is on!
Mark, when is the Sequoia review coming? I can't wait to see you guys review it.
My reliability preference is most important ✌🏾
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A green one of these sold in my area for $111k, I shit you not.
@Nomen Clature I've seen 3 hummer EVs and at least 20 different TRXs in my area there are a lot of idiots with too much money.
Seen two on the lot at $97k
I like this Toyota TuRD.
Is the EZ-Go golf cart in the final thoughts a teaser for an upcoming review? You could take her for some laps around Del Webb Huntley!
I drive around Del Webb at 75MPH in that and no one can stop me.
I keep going back and forth on getting ‘22 and up TRD Pro or a Tremor. I have a Raptor, but I don’t Baja it lol.. Normal off-road stuff and drive it around town! It’s cool to have, but the longer I have it the less practical it is for what I do 🤷🏽♂️
I really like the design of the Tundra, these trucks are just so god damn big now.
The new Tundra is literally the same size as a 2nd gen Tacoma DCLB. It got smaller.
The previous Tundra is markedly bigger.
@@AscendingBliss Cool. Both too damn big.
We seem to be on the same ideology...no one seems to notice. My grandfather owned an 83 Chevy custom deluxe with a 305. That pos was almost identically wide as my crew cab Tacoma and wasn't as powerful with that small V8 as my 4.0 V6. The dumbness around this type of thing is profound. But hey wtf do I know?
@@AscendingBliss The new tundra is longer, wider, and taller than the last generation.
Best looking truck on the market...
Jack & Mark,
Would you consider the gen three tundra or the Nissan Titan Xd if you need to tow 10k and have bed space but went reliability?
It’s Friday! New Savage Geese and the weekend is close!
This truck is definitely on my short list. I want to wait a bit to see how they handle some of the minor issues and maybe watch a few more reviews, but at the end of the day, it's a Toyota so it'll have the best reliability out of the bunch and the best resale, no question (also Toyota has been in the hybrid game the longest). And you're correct, this truck has it all, good economy, good tech and more than enough power for most towing needs. Best part is the led light bar, it's perfect to searing eyeballs for on coming traffic. Thanks for the video gents.
What other trucks do you have on your list?
@@moloono1 I like this new 7.3 gasser in the F250, but I feel like it will only be beneficial if I was towing ALL the time, which I won't be. Plus, I'm not that sold on the reliability of a Ford. I also like the Rivian, but that thing won't be able to tow for more than 25 miles, lol!
@@BarnStangz Nice! I agree on the Rivian, ha ha. The hybrid Tundra might be good for your needs. Hopefully you find something that works.
@@moloono1 Thanks pal, yeah, I don't know I'm going to do yet.... I do know that I'll wait until the auto loan bubble bursts some more, I think we're going to see some good deals in 2023.
Yeah no V8, we get it. But living in the mountain west, I greatly appreciate a twin turbo engine, all of the power available at any elevation. Maybe I'll reconsider if it blows up but so far it's been rock solid.
Interesting point. Thanks for mentioning.
This need the generator like the F150 Powerstroke has, it's so very useful if you do any kind of field work with tools.
are you a person that does any kind of field work with tools... that doesn't already have a stand alone generator? and would like to run a 30k engine to power your tools? Also, this Tundra DOES have a generator, the word your looking for is "inverter", specifically, a higher wattage inverter, because Ford's "generator" is just its engine... which the Tundra also has one.
Apparently there are levels to reviews. Thank you sir.
Wonder what Toyota is up to on the tie rod ends if you look at the aluminum part basically the ball joint they’re running like a aluminum extension maybe it’s for weight or vibration?
I'm not good with curbs. This should do the job.
I respect Toyota but the MPG is so horrible I would rather have a reliable 6.2 v8 which gets about the same mileage. Also the old Tundra wasn't as bulletproof as people say.
Pointing out the bad is more helpful. No tow hooks, poor approach and rear angles, warning beeps that won't turn off, such as when putting something heavy on the back seat. The fuel mileage is no where close to what's reported unless you drive like a little old lady.
I was thinking the same thing. Usually SavageGeese is good about going into the important details. This review seems like they phoned it in. I've also read that the interior lighting is poor in the cab.
I have a new CBI bumper with tow hooks and winch coming for mine. And approach angles was easily fixed by taking off the garbage factory 33” tires and swapping to 35x12.5s. Putting a 2” preload lift on this weekend that will even further increase clearance.
Again too damn close to my paid for Tacoma...not enough upside.
@@PolishGator as they said watch the other tundra videos. This was just an overview of the changes to this specific model. Savage geese never really feels phoned in imo. Where else are you going to watch a 20min review of an npc cuv and not get bored?
Thank god, my T levels were getting dangerously low.
To confirm, the turning radius in the TRD pro model is better than the rest of the line up? I have the platinum trim and I desire that tighter turn for easier parking like my old Trailboss. If that’s true I’m in!
It’s a wider turn radius because it has a wider track. The steering change that they were talking about is just that it takes less revolutions of the steering wheel to get to full lock
You guys bouncing all over the cabin on a off road course and try to have a normal conversation is what I come to this channel for
I think I will be trading in my 19 platinum for a limited. The upper versions don’t seem worth the premium price tags.
At least you have resale value for the higher models, but other than that, your right!
as long as they dont reduce the hight of the hood and the ridiculous visibility out front they can do what they want. Its simply such a huge flaw
I see the same issue with the Tacoma
Can you add the light bar grill to any Tundra aftermarket?
@savagegeese what’s the story with the BMW race car at the end of the video? Jack and Mark go to the local cars and coffee to talk about how much they track their BMW?
Did Toyota finally get rid of the X-REAS suspension design? X-REAS is a design with hydraulic lines connecting the opposite diagonal struts of the vehicle to prevent body roll, but it's prone to leak as the vehicle gets age.
I said it before and I'll say it again: Given they painted the anti-sway bar red, they should've at least offered it as E-KDSS from the Land Cruiser 300. Of all the world where KDSS will be most useful, it's on American roads. Not sure why Toyota had to cut costs there...I'm sure people buying this would not mind the extra cost for having KDSS... The infrastructure is all in place so here's to hoping it'll come in due time.
@Nomen Clature What's another $1K for KDSS? I'm sure most wouldn't mind that additional cost.
We have KDSS on our GX460 and I can really tell the difference between ours and my dad’s 4Runner without it.
Where can I get that blue SG shirt!?
How long will I keep my 2020 Tundra, before I buy a new Ford or GM truck that still has a V8?
Good video
Hello Savagegeese, great material! I really enjoy your straightforward, well researched, informative style. Total pro. Thank you.
As aside; I just found your channel and haven't searched for videos about emissions (i.e., "climate change" related car stuff). Is that a topic you've covered?
so, is there an optional package that includes all the decals that let everyone know i'm a pro?
It’s almost like Toyota throttles production numbers for these trucks to keep their “exclusivity” high. You would think with the amount of interest of the TRD pro they would build more of them than SR5s.
That or the over $20k price difference
Waiting for dealerships in my local area to get one so i can buy one alredy.
I currently have a 17 Tundra. I'm going to wait a few years/ models to see how they refine and tackle any new issues that come up with the new powertrain. If the reliability comes close to the previous gen I can definitely see my self in a next gen pro.
I want one with the black interior. 😩
E+LSD reminds me of my prom night
The perfect truck for the upcoming Monkey Pox apocalypse.
Who are these idiots that are deciding that the hood should be raised into your field of view?
Training us for future vehicles with no windows just a TV screen.
Yes it’s stupid but I guess it’s another way they try to trick owners into thing it’s bigger and more truck like then it is. Same with the engine startup. Seems like they try to make the smallest engines the loudest so you “feel” like it’s a “truck”. It’s all this bs placebo crap to sell a half assed trucks to fools.
Toyota went for the Hood tax people like on peterbilts 🤣
Getting either this or a Dodge Dakota
Raptor money without all the performance and suspension and tires ? That’s kinda how I see it 🤷🏻♂️
Yeah. I'm a Tundra guy. Hard pass all around on 22
@@jeremy9071 myself also, love my 2019 my dealer won’t leave me alone about buying it back 😂
@@truesf345 same here. Have a 21 bought 11/20. Just flipped 9k. Lol. But they tried pulling bait and switch bullshit. Told them no less than 50k. Amd wasn't about haggling because I don't need to sell.
Please do the Sequoia..
Perfect to smuggle drugs through the jungle in Minecraft.
They need to make a trd AM
I still think most prefer the 3UR FE!!👍👍✌✌
Meh. While it was certainly a great, albeit thirsty motor the only thing it really does better is sound.
@@joshtavenner3073 V8's and loud pipes, who needs a stereo??
@@joshtavenner3073 and not blowing turbos
My Ram 2500 Longhorn MegaCab with the Cummins gets the same mileage but with an asston more capability.
Does the TRD Amateur cost less than the TRD Pro?
I need 8' beds on my truck 😭
10:38 So after the C6 video you guys now say "Chivy" too? I know some internally do.
They caught the bug
Needs a bigger grille. Much bigger..... plus a standard baby-changing station behind third-row reclining seats.
When you say the transmission is far better than the one in the F150 are you referring to the shift action or the reliability or both?
I would say shift action since it’s too soon to judge reliability
My local dealer is selling one for over $90k. F**K that.
Seen comments here about 110k and above lol
Just wait it out.
Which coincidentally to me was the draw of the Tundra. Outlasting the BIG 3 at less of a price....now who knows?
Weird that the spare isn't the same tire as the other four.
One big issue for me is that Tundra lacks the ability to raise the back seat. Such a small thing.., but for me it automatically rules out the Toyota as an option.
What half ton truck does allow you to raise the back seats?
Need an AT4x review
When I shopped before I bought my 2019 the Ford was a much nicer truck inside at the same price point, but it is an American truck and I was buying to keep mine, which is just impossible with American trucks unless you don't mind constant shop issues and massive expense when they refuse warranty repairs as the motors blow up due to the ridiculous emissions equipment in them.
Buy a made in Texas Tacoma or tundra. Mine is made in the lone star state by Texans.
So if you floor it but the battery is empty, just it feel anemic? What if you're towing while the battery runs to empty? I'm interested in the sequoia with this drivetrain but the inconsistency feels like it could be not ideal.
It’s not a plug in hybrid so the battery should never be “empty”
The battery charges every time you slow down because the motor becomes a generator, also when the gas engine runs it charges the battery as well. The batteries never go low enough to not be usable for acceleration.
@@Tool0GT92 but if your on the highway constantly accelerating or going up a grade and towing it’s gonna run out eventually. These aren’t locomotives with a Diesel engine running a generator for power…
@@FishFind3000 the engine would be running when you go uphill so it would be charging the battery. My wife has a rav4 hybrid its an amazing system, the engineers have really got it down.
If you need a lot of power or towing it just won't use the battery as much, it will never deplete it completely
@@Tool0GT92 I really struggle with the physics of "it'll never drain completely" given the distances that you may be under throttle. I guess maybe if you coast or partial throttle it charges it up. Can't see the fuel consumption being amazing then? Tough for me to work out.
The pick up truck! Americas next generation minivan. Millennial soccer moms rejoice!
It’s definitely grown on mw
As a filthy hiker, you would have to hold a gatling gun to my head for me to choose a bright red or white leather interior.
Tell me this won't be used by trail pros without telling me this won't be used by trail pros.
...that offroad golf cart at the end tho...
I think this Tundra will prove to be reliable. Just prepare to spend the money when the hybrid system dies.
32 gal tank plus 20mpg = sexy
I'm just here for the suspension porn.
Nice
I could easily drive my subaru crosstrek on that "off-road" track.
A camry could run that track haha
ive taken my g37x coupe fishing on worse terrain than that
That’s realistically the off road use a truck would do. Taking care of your property and and grabbing trailers. Anything more extreme use a Jeep or a side by side
I feel like you should get more plastic for that kind of money and maybe new ideas, like ones that Ford didn't come up with 10 years ago.
I'm not sure the grill is big enough to compete with the usual suspects. Also, why did they leave the "u" out of "TuRD". Confusing for the consumer.