Trade Breakdowns: Devils Acquire Timo Meier & Lightning Trade For Tanner Jeannot w/ Steve Dangle
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Steve Dangle breaks down the two blockbuster trades that went down Sunday evening. The first deal saw the New Jersey Devils acquire San Jose Sharks forwards Timo Meier in a 13-piece trade! Then, the Tampa Bay Lightning traded 5 picks in order to acquire forward Tanner Jeannot from the Nashville Predators. Do these moves make sense? Who won the trades. Find out all that and more!
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Man the trade tree for the Meier deal is going to be insane
Happy as a Devils fan😈 that we secured the best forward by far on the trade block who fits our system perfectly aka Timo Meier! 🖤🖤🖤🔥
See you in 2045 to see the conclusion of that!
It’s actually crazy that this deal is also connected to the Langenbrunner Nieuwendyk trade between Dallas and NJ in 2002.
Safe to say, that tree isn’t gonna die any time soon lol
The worst part, because of Timur Ibragimov it's technically part of the Karlsson trade tree
@@varsity_13 To infinity and beyond!
As a Devils fan, I couldn't be happier. That first round match up against the Rags is looking like an INSANE rivalry series already
The irony that if Steve did a trade tree on this it would be long because it dates back to the 90s/2000s because the pick used on Muk has a tree that extends to the Trade that brought Jamie Langenbrunner to NJ from Dallas
It starts with Jason Arnott for Bill Guerin trade. I begging Steve to make that trade tree because it's absolutly huge. Both for New Jersey and Edmonton.
Huge for the devils to get Meier without having to give up any big pieces. Bolts overpaid for Jeannot, but they also overpaid for Goodrow, Coleman, Hagel, etc. I'm fine with it.
Not an overpay if it works 😎
“they”?
@@conorwreckoner they, the bolts?
Coleman has rings to prove he wasn't "overpaid" for.
@Green Ranger over White Ranger "casual fans"....says the man spewing erroneousness.
Welcome to real life where
Coleman's mulitple shining championship rings 💍 proves you are wrong.
COULDN’T BE ANY HAPPIER THAT TIMO MEIER IS NOW A NEW JERSEY DEVIL! 😈🖤🔥🔥🔥 LFGDDDDD!
Preds fan here. I am in a daze after this weekend.
Nino gets traded to a divisional rival
Only GM the team has known in its 25 year history is stepping down
New GM coming right before free agency (Oh, and he's the first coach the team knew)
Jeannot gets traded in a deal that, if everything pans out well for the Preds, could rival the Forsberg-Erat trade
I also went to a soccer game on Saturday. I have no idea how to react to things.
Sharks got robber and Tampa did too. Yea, Tampa will probably beat the leafs with Tanner, but in 3 years they will be garbage and leafs will FINALLY lose to Buffalo in the first round.
You are forgetting about Tampa farm system which is full of up and coming talent. I don't think they are worried about draft picks. Also point and palat weren't high draft picks and they are beyond flourishing
doesn't matter we've won bk2bk and gone to three straight finals I'll take a rebuild
the crazy part to me is the 50% retention
without that it's a meh trade, no clue how it outbid Carolina or Vegas were offering other than literal smoke and mirrors with all these players making it look bigger than it actually is(pretty sure a 1st, 2nd, and Jarvis/Suzuki is better than a guy down in the KHL...)
but with that huge retention, this is a BAD deal
Dude I agree. When they said team 1 and team 2
100% canes were the team with recent first (Suzuki, Jarvis) and first and mid prospect
If im the Canes I offer Suzuki/Necas/2023 first + Conditional 2024 first
@@Nxrthluvsyouthen it's a good thing you aren't the Canes, Necas is literally tied for Carolina's best player.
@@like17badgers oh lmao I thought he was struggling. I was thinking Jarvis was the better player
TB trade says to me there not concerned about the Leafs there concerned about Boston. There getting bigger to compete against the jugernot Boston team.
I challenge everyone to ask their moms to read of the names in this trade and see how many they get wrong, bonus points if they're not a hockey fan. It's hard enough when your familiar with Timo, Andreas, and Fabian, but when you aren't familiar with any of the names it gets funnier. Out of the major trades I've seen, this one is hands down the hardest to read out
This is part of a Trade Tree from the Bill Guerin for Jason Arnott trade in the late 90's. You should totally do THAT trade tree this offseason
Is that via JT Miller/Blake Coleman? If not, that would also be an interesting avenue
The east is going crazy on this deadline, and the west is just "I sleep"
It seems like most of the top west players on non-playoff teams are heading East
I hope the sharks trade the conditional 1st/2nd and put more conditions on it
I'm elated as a Devils fan! LGD
I really wish Washington would stop waiting and start selling. I don't expect everyone to go but a good half the roster could be sold right now and they could start focusing on the future
Without an extension there was only so much the Sharks were going to get. I got the impression that was more on Timo than on Grier being unwilling to let teams talk to him but idk.
TBH Fabian Zetterlund has the potantial to be mroe then 20 points in 5 games he can sakte win board battles has a rocket of a shot and hes built like a tank at 5'11 and 220lbs
Brutal for SJ. Nashville got a better return for Tanner Jeannot for God sake.
Tampa is already pre tough and now they are a lot tougher…hopefully the leafs can get another bottom 6 guy with grit
you got noel acheri n ryan oreilly
@@v0LcaN_o___ Noel is solid and so is O’reilly but O’reilly isn’t a hitter he’s just tough and annoying to play against. I’m talking about like a Tom Wilson, barbashev woulda been perfect as well but he’s in Vegas now. We need someone who can play tough and puts on a lot of pressure
the devils getting the ECHL goalie makes sense bc Blackwood is back on IR so they had to call up Schmid again from the AHL (shoutout to his first NHL shutout)
That goalie is getting a AHL job next year and Schmid will backup Vitek next year. Blackwood is a goner, hopefully he'll bounce back elsewhere.
It was a hefty price for sure but JBB has earned my trust. Also it looks like the leafs were in a bidding war with tampa. JBB has overpaid every single trade deadline. We shall see.
PLEASE TELL ME YOU DIDNT FINISH THE PODCAST BEFORE THE MCCABE TRADE
Tampa has a huge list of players they have overpaid for- you can see them all engraved somewhere
Back to back engravings
Don’t forget the back to back championships they won 😎
I would rather trade zetterlund over mercer and sharangovich.. zetts had a great start to the year but kinda fell flat.
Surprised the Devils didn't have to give one oh their big D prospects Luke Hughes or Nemec
Luke and Nemec are NOT nor have ever been on the block.
It will somehow work out for Tampa but that doesn’t mean it was a great deal for them. Five draft picks for Jeannot is pretty steep no matter how Lightning fans galaxy brain it.
Meier to Devils is a solid trade for Jersey. Not even a fan of theirs but that is good work from Fitzgerald.
I’m a lightening fan and I’m not thrilled by it. That’s a lot of picks for a bottom 6 guy.
Unless they Jeannot something we don't, this was a weird trade.
Jeannot is Tom Wilson redux. Kills over 2 minutes in PK per game. Jeannot is also, remember, shooting 5% this season. If Tampa is deploying him as Tom Wilson in Washington, that’s going to go well upward.
Wilson is UFA next summer. Could you imagine if he was available at the deadline next year? Washington could demand his weight in picks!
Jeannot is going to crush the leafs defense. TB is just going to HIT the leafs into the ground and have ZERO pushback.
Bud......Devils were the front runner all along what are you doing with your life 😂 How did you not know that? Goodness
Kane to the Preds? They now have the draft stock to get him
To play devils advocate as a sharks fan. It's in the Sharks interest to have not gotten Mercer in this trade. If they are going to do even a partial rebuild, NJ keeping mercer and anyone else people thought they would have to trade, gives a higher probability of that conditional draft pick to be a first. So although it's not as flashy up front, if they can draft well ((yes I know magic beans)), this is one of those trades that no one will really know if it was s fleecing or not for several more years.
Those 1sts tampa traded are all top 10 protected tho
Good lord. Even after listening to you go through it all, I'm still lost. I'll wait for the Trade Tree video
Whatch the Leafs also not just got a d man they need but also someone like Tannor Jannot wouldn't shock me
I won't tell you good luck with the Timo Meier trade tree. I will tell you good luck with the Tanner Jeannot trade tree. Julien BriseBois must really hate the NHL draft. I'd almost say that Jeannot is the kind of addition the Leafs need, but for heavens sake, not at that price!
Not just cause I’m a Devils 😈 fan, but in general Timo Meier >>>>>>>>>>>>> Patrick Kane.
0:08
When he said that "timo is a new jersey devil" you could see and hear the scars of the 2000s devils team on his soul lol
No you couldn't
The Tanner Jeannot trade hasn’t worked out at ALL for Tampa. Jeannot only has three assists in sixteen games for Tampa, zero goals. And they gave up FIVE DRAFT PICKS. The Islanders gave up a 2024 third round pick to get Pierre Engvall from Toronto and Engvall has been lighting it up for the Islanders. He has five goals and seven points in twelve games for the Islanders. He’s been providing some much needed offense to a team that has struggled to score this year.
Edit: And now the Lightning were a first round exit. They have zero draft picks for the first FIVE ROUNDS in 2023 without winning a playoff series.
Another edit: Steve kind of jinxed Andrei Vasilevskiy. He just had back surgery and will miss the first two months of the season. That could be a DEVASTATING injury for the Lightning. We all know how important he is to that team. 60 game goalie year after year. Vezina Trophy winner in 2019 and 2021 Conn Smythe Trophy winner.
as a Devils fan (lol) I wish we gave up Holtz instead of Muk but what can you do.
6'4 defenceman who can skate and has gangly long arms don't grow on tree's and I think he'll eventually be a 2nd pairing defenceman for the sharks.
Holtz's hasn't changed much from the draft other then becoming a slightly better skater while Muk has improved every year since the draft.
My Devils top prospects before the trade would have been
1. Hughes
2. Nemec
3. Muk
4.Gritsyuk
5. Holtz
Having Luke Hughes, Simon Nemec, and Kevin Bahl who is a similar build made him pretty expendable
Jack Hughes, Jesper Bratt, Timo Meier. Wtf
I'm a Sharks fan and I'm pretty underwhelmed by the return. Part of the reason is because I probably had my expectations too high and I don't really know the prospects we got. Pronman from The Athletic is a little higher on the return than others I've seen, but I was hoping for better pieces. We'll see what else Grier does this deadline. I'm hoping for a Karlsson trade but it is probably unlikely.
Zetterlund is good 200ft player covers a lot of space on the ice, has a decent shot, Sharks could develop or flip him couple years later for another 1st round pick.
Okhotiuk is young, but he could be your 3rd pair shutdown guy for the next decade, played 10 games for the Devils this season and made 31 hits, also he doesn't afraid to drop the gloves.
Shakir played 67 out of 68 games for his KHL team, scored 25 points (1st among D), his average TOI is about 17 minutes per game, and he is ready to grind his NHL spot through the minors.
Zetterlund could turn into something special
Yea Zetts is essentially the same size as Timo and is talented. He hits, can score and goes to the dirty areas. He'll be missed in NJ
Thanks for the insight, yall
@@Heytherebuds i agree except Zetterlund is stockier ahs he is 2 inches shorter then timo but the same weight. dudes built like a tank-
Fire Grier into the sun for all I care. He’s lost me entirely. That trade for Meier was trash.
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With the devils trading Mukhamadullin: He didn't have much of a chance to make the Devils roster, I mean- look at their D prospects. They'll have Luke Hughes and Simon Nemec full time quite soon, they've got more D prospects left, and they have Marino, Hamilton, and Siegenthaler locked up long term. I don't see it as any kind of loss for NJ, really.
We loved him here in Nashville but that doesn't discount the fact that he's been on a milk carton all fkn year. His rookie season also came during a year in which Duchene, Forsberg, Josi, Grandlund, and even Johansen were having career years or a rebound to form. I think it may be an aberration...time will tell...in the meantime here you go Trotzy...here's your assets!!!! Fk yeah... I'll take it after letting a first round pick walk in waivers to Seattle...Tolvy is on a 30 goal pace with them. So yes...we deserved this!!!! Moreover, I'm still upset that we only got a 2nd in next year's draft for Nino...wtf...I seem to recall giving away 1sts for Gaustad and Hartman in years past...and how could you not get one for this deep draft year...hopefully reminiscent of another in Nashville in 2003. Been a STH for 23 years...overjoyed to see this overpayment.
This should be a lesson for the leafs! Do what it takes! Bye knies bye picks. Bring on a stud!! This is our time!
NJ needs to sign him LT. They'll have 36 million in cap space. Him and Bratt. STEVE YOU FORGOT SJ RETAINS 50% I think both teams won in a way. Without Zetterlund I'd say SJ got fleeced
The Devils did give up a roster player, and two players who have seen NHL time on ice this season, but nobody who played in Saturday night's 7-0 win against Philadelphia got traded.
I agree with the assertion that it's a lot - and Harrington's already gone to Anaheim on waivers - but it's not the Big Stuff. Muk was at best the Devils' #3 D prospect (and was the third first-round pick the Devils made in that draft), and he could hit it big with the Sharks (and I hope he does), but he was a player New Jersey could afford to give up in this deal. I hope all four players that San Jose got do fabulously there, but they were still all pieces New Jersey could afford without the cupboard being anything close to bare.
Sharks fan since their just before their first ever playoff appearance here. I'm pretty underwhelmed with the return package for Meier. I don't like seeing such a high value guy get moved, but a tear down is needed to get this organization where it needs to be with whatever re-blank adjective you choose to use here. Meier is the guy you move to get an A+ level prospect back. You get a piece back that can change the organization going forward. Instead we got magic beans, conditional magic beans, a project with some decent upside (but is still a project), a guy who might be playable at the NHL level, and a cap guy. I get the desire to try and move out some guys that don't have a future with the organization and bring in some guys that probably do, but I don't feel this was anything close to a great trade for Grier.
It seemed from his comments last night that there was no appetite to actually sign Meier after this season and so his comments a month or two ago about extending Meier was a bluff, and he got called on it. Then got out played by a more experienced GM with the game of chicken in demanding better value coming to San Jose. But best case scenario is it gets close to even in 4-6 years down the road. Today though, absolute landslide by Jersey. The franchise with one of the best prospect pools in the league got away with trading magic beans and their 5th best prospect for the HIGHEST IN DEMAND guy at the deadline.
NJD can and will resign Meier will be resigned. Tatar, Haula, Severson and Blackwood will have to go, but they've got the prospects to make it up, and they keep they're core. They'll be able resign Bratt and Meier. The future is bright for the Devils
I think Zetterlund would be taken in the first round of his draft year as well.
What an epic trade tree this is gonna be.
Like that was many times before, Steve knows nothing but very loudly told stories. Hey, Steve, breaking news, you are bad again.
Great trade by Jersey, stupid trade for Tampa. Cal Foote and 5 picks for a goon. That is more than what Devils gave up for a sure fire top 3 forward in Meier.
I'm surprised the Leafs couldn't beat that price.
Which one?
Anyone else think the sharks would have gotten more from the leafs? Feel like the sharks played way too much hard ball and then teams like the leafs went elsewhere.
Mega trade for NJ. They gonna be a powerhouse for the next years for sure! And I'm sure Meier will re-sign with the Devils.
But I also wanna mention Johnny Gaudreau. This idiot could've been with NJ instead. :D
Good god Tampa paid a lot for Jeannot
We need this beautiful horrible trade tree. I have no suggestion on where to start
Sharks got r8ped
Tampa felt like they needed to add so badly they decided to fleece themselves 😂
Not fleeced if he actually succeeds. The maple laughs will lose to in the first round again . To the bolts . AGAIN
Heard this "Tampa got fleeced." for a few years in a row now, and still have yet to see it take place. Goodrow, Coleman, Hagel, Paul and now Tanner Jeannot.... Something tells me you're WRONG.
@@Deepfriedpajamas02 only it will be quicker.
Why are Leafs fans always wrong???
As a Devils fan, as much as I wanted Timo Meier on the team, I really didn't want to see either Mercer or Nemec moved in order to acquire him.
The fact that we were competing for his services with the Hurricanes, Golden Knights and the late-entry Blues only made the last several weeks even more excruciating.
I love this trade. I'll love it even more if Tom Fitzgerald is able to get Timo's signature on an extension and if we're able to keep Jesper Bratt long-term as well.
Fitz is super smart. Mercer or Nemec were never, ever getting moved here. I’m sure he didn’t even remotely consider that
@@danpic9835 I also think we got a little lucky, Vegas was motivated but doesn't have the assets and Carolina is conservative by nature, they reportedly had a good offer on the table but wouldn't go that extra mile.
So what happens in a scenario where the Lightning finish bottom 10 in the league in 2024? (I know this is very VERY unlikely).
The Blackhawks have the lightning's 1st round pick in 2024, but it is top 10 protected. If the lightning pick in the top 10 in 2024 then the pick is supposed to move to an unprotected 2025 pick (I thought?). How does that work now with the predators having that 2025 pick?
Big fan of the show.
As a NJ Devils STH, thank you very much in breaking down the details of this trade. I now have a better understanding of the trade.
Continued success on your show.
If I was a sharks fan, I'd be alright with the return. No high end talent, yes, but a ton of roster filling. Zetterlund is a bottom 6 spark plug of an energy guy who will give you an identical performance at 10 min a night as he will at 20, he seems to never get gassed.
Okhotyuk is currently a tweener, but projects as a reasonable 3rd pair, hard hitting, defensive defensemen.
And Mukhamadulin is probably going to land as a top 4 defensemen, with a slight chance at being a top 2.
So all in all, no big pieces, sure, but filling out the roster with young talent. You need trades like this that put flesh on the bones of a team just like you need the big pieces.
Normally the buying club gets the superstar, but it looks like Vancouver got the best player in their deal with Islanders. What a genius trade for them.
Steve, as a Sharks fan, I just have one question..... Can you ask Hat Guy what is the correct alcohol to chug over the next couple years?
First time I’m first commenter in UA-cam video
... quick on draw !
Looks like all the teams in the East are going all in
going to be fun. and a lot of tears
what a move from nashville. they'll be mid to bottom tier for a while but if they draft well they can bounce back in 3-5 years.
Tampa overpaid so badly it's kinda funny.
Leafs will lose again to Tampa it’s kinda funny.
This has been one of the most active trade deadline seasons I can remember in a long time. Maybe I am wrong, but it just seems that way.
Even the Caps have been rumored to be in on Chychrun now with the extra draft picks they have. Still could see some big trades this week
I didn’t like Grier’s first draft and now his first deadline deal is pretty underwhelming.
Good day to be a Preds fan. lol
Hatakka has been injured for most of this season but could be a strong addition for the Devils when he's healthy.
GIMME FUEL GIMME FIRE GIMME TIMO F****** MEIER
I am gonna miss Jeannot but that is a HAUL for him. Dear god!!!
Man, imagine the trade tree in 10 years!
nah he's crazy for reading that entire draft condition paragraph
Make a new trade tree video please
I wonder how the biggest devils fan Adam Wylde thinks of the trade
he is getting more than 8mil
Lightning NEEDS defenceman
Dubas always over pays!
Holtz was who I wanted. Too bad.
Watch him not re sign
57gp 5g 9a = 6 players
*sad Sharks fan here*
I think Sharks fans will be happy in the end
You’re wrong.
@@davebpilot7406 That's it? You're not going to expand on that answer? New Jersey already developed some of those players. They have one of the deepest prospect pools in the league and the Sharks just got a chunk of it.
This is making the bruins trade look even better now.
Honestly so glad these videos are coming here instead of on a certain other channel. Way to go on owning your own opinions Steve. Happy for you!
I'm curious how much longer Steve will be with another network considering the success of SDPN. Be curious to see how things go from here.
He probably makes more for hosting watch a game videos then his own channel
@@xTzFerocity he gets to make content with actual footage with that other network so I feel like he’d stick around
@@motelbobby4104 You're probably right. And that would be tough to turn away from.
@@froboy252 Yeah haha that's a fair point and probably reason enough to never leave
Tampa.... Tf??? Did the preds really get a better return then the sharks did for Meier?
Tampa will beat Toronto again. Who cares?
HELL YEAH LGD!!
So whats Ken Holland's excuses again?
meep
Tanner jeano no no no no please no not to Tampa no
So what does toronto need to do now :)
That's exactly what I read about that trade