Why Is Romance Named After The Romans?
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History of Romance: www.merriam-webster.com/words...
Roman Foods: bigseventravel.com/strange-in...
Romanticism: www.britannica.com/art/Romant...
Rome On Etymonline: www.etymonline.com/word/Rome?...
History of the word Romantic: www.classichistory.net/archive...
The Etymology of Romance: / the-etymology-of-romance
The romance Languages: www.babbel.com/en/magazine/ro...
Chivalry: www.history.com/news/chivalry...
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An interesting coincidence is that the Latin word for love, “amor,” is the Latin word for the city, “Roma,” spelled backwards.
Huh. Interesting.
Co-incidence? Colleen Mccullough thought Amor was the 'secret name's of Roma.
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YO THAT BLEW MY MIND
idk if I missed it in the video but here's an interesting thing I found:
english: ancient rome
french: rome antique
french: romantique
english: romantic
In Dutch, a novel (book) is still called a 'roman'...
German too. It doesn't have to be "romantic" in the English sense, just a long-form book, and now I see how they're related.
I was about to say the same thing, Dutch too.
Norwegian too
That's what we call them in Bosnia (and presumably Croatia, Serbia and Montengro too). I've been wondering for years why that was, and this video finally explained it. We also call a comic book a "roman".
In Russian too
Hi Patrick! Fun fact : In French, the word for "novel" is "roman" :) now I know why !
In Croatian too. Novel - roman :)
Just like everything else, we have Julius Caesar to thank for romance.
Et the French don't forget
Did you even see this video? *smh
@@MagnumInnominandum If I hadn't then how would I have made this joke? The video states that word came from the Roman influence on what we now call French, which at the time was Gaul, which was... wait for it... conquered by Julius Caesar. Perhaps, had he not done so, we might get Germanic on St. Valentine's Day instead.
@@WaterShowsProd J.C. was a bit too specific I thought as He was never mentioned. Sorry to bust your balls. We just have a different sense of the content I suppose.
@@MagnumInnominandum Apparently not.
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In German, the word 'Roman' means novel (as in book).
Same in French
Same in Croatia!
Yeah, I can confirm it's the same in Dutch too. I wonder if this Roman has the same etymological origin as Romantic Roman.
Swedish too
Same in Dutch
Roman's Romantic = love, power, spirit
Goth's Gothic = dark, angst, rebel
When someone who speaks Spanish, Italian or Portuguese find each other in the comment section
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Draw me like one of your Romanz girls.
LOL 😂
Oh, now I have Lady Gaga "Bad Romance" stuck in my mind
Ra-ra roma-ma, roma, ro-ma-ma, ga-ga, oh-la-la, want your bad romance
Romance in Polish is "Romans".
Romans in Polish is "Rzymianie".
Rome in Polish is "Rzym".
Bro mandarin is easier to learn than polish 🤦♂️ I’ve tried
how do you pronounce 'Rzym'?
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It's impossible to spell it out phonetically. Audio is the only way. Google Translate pronounced it correctly.
Polish is truly a hard language.
@@meetaverma8372 Dunno. How do you pronounce Troughton? I mean, if you're going to rag on the Polish language, try pronouncing some English words as written, first.
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You left out my favourite Romance language! It's Romansh, spoken mainly in the Canton of the Grisons in Switzerland, the country's fourth official language, along with French, Italian, and German.
Rome is obviously named after a time-traveling Romulan who visited Earth at some point.
Ah, a fellow Trekkie!
Maybe it's called Rome because they named it after some tribal leader of the tribe that founded Rome. Making the myth slightly true. Because a good chunk of myths were from events that became heavily exaggerated
Hey! I really liked this video. It's very interesting topic. I enjoyed watching.
Thans!
Thank you for this video. I have always wondered how these words were related.
Xidnaf has a pretty good old video on this too if anyone's looking for even more confirmation
Thanks for this explanation! This is one of those things I have consistently wondered about over the years but have never bothered to Google.
10:10 That romantic comic cracks me up. xD
In bases of word ramanse lays romanicus ‘in roman style’, and phrase romanice scribere ‘writing in roman’ (galloroman, commonfolks language). Basing on them in old french emerched word ronmanz (later: romance) meaning language of common folk (referring to people from northern france), which evolved into ‘story’ and alter in 'novel' and ‘love adventure’.
I found it in some ethymology site.
The last drawing 😻
I find it interesting how the idea of chivalry and knights saving women (damsels in distress) still caries on to this day in modern stories like Superman saving Lois Lane.
Well, many of the adventures and romances were written to improve the chivalry of the noble class and present them with the ideal what a "knight in shining armor" had to be. A good chunk of Arturian stories were written in that spirit.
I'm sure that the Romans invented love.
yeah, because before the roman empire they all married for hate
Romans after inventing love:
**BUSINESS is BOOMIN**
Greeks invented sex.
Romans discovered you could have it with women, and invented love.
@@DISTurbedwaffle918 burn lol
@@meetaverma8372 No, in ancient times everybody married for livestock animals. Plus the woman was just a piece of property passed from her father to her new husband.
I didnt know gouls were actually real and even had their own goulish country thats now modern day France! The more you know I guess.
I suppose it's possible many GAULS became GHOULS. But I wouldn't bet money on it.
The husband and I are using this preferred term now. If it was a country full of ghouls maybe they got what was coming to them...
Your description of Romantic period composers is misleading. It was focused on emotional expression.
3:55 haha you made a typo! Everybody! Look at the typo! The r is supposed to be an e!
you made a typo its e-a not r-a
@@marceltelang7825 what are *you* talking about? Ashley hasn't made any typos. Name explain, on the other hand, has. In the video it's. Thr instead of The.
@@ashleylentz2651 oh I didn't notice the thr I got confused because. Name explain said Vernecular not Vernacular
I was literally thinking about why those words sound so similar.
i was just thinking about this yesterday and then this pops up on my recommended 😭
In Portuguese, romance is a polysemic word. It’s used to describe love affairs; novels (book) in general; narrative pieces written in a romance language, in prose or in verse; and a bunch of other things related to literature and even music.
I used to wonder what the connection between romance and the Romance languages was.
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Not strictly true, the vast majority, if not the entirety, of latin influence in english comes from the norman french who conquered the land, alongside later influence from other romance languages and the use of latin as an ecclesiastical and scientific language. I would guess this is probably due to the fact that when rome conquered what we would now call england, it was populated by britonnic peoples (such as the modern welsh). The germanic anglo-saxons would largely come after rome fell, as rome was quite successful at repelling them up until that point.
that is interestings!
Not to mention those "Romanz books" live on in that the word for Novel in many languages is still "Roman" or how the literary term for a coming of age story is a "bildungsroman". Roman basically came to mean novel as in book and that's where romantic comes from, saying a relationship is like something out of a book basically.
I wouldn't use Beethoven as a symbol of romantic composers, given that he marks the very transition from classicism to romanticism in music. Tchaikovsky would be a more appropriate and almost as popular alternative imo
Nice to see someone who knows his Western Art Music.
From what I remember in music history class, Beethoven started as a baroque composer and later in his life his style changed to being more close to a romantic composer, making him one of the earliest romantic composers
Not baroque, but classical. That period ended 20 years prior to his birth with the death of JS Bach. It can be said that Beethoven was the first romantic composer, but citing him as an example of the famous/peak romantic style isn't very appropriate
Beethoven is between, almost anyone after him is romantic, like Chopin.
Exactly. Excluding the ones after the end of the romantic period, of course
5:05 In german novels are called "Romane" singular "Roman" to this day.
who can forget the new romantic music of the 1980's
Native Gauls spoke a Celtic tongue, not a Latin tongue.
Up to a point. Once conquered they slowly started adapting the new language and by the time the Roman empire fell the latinisation of Gaul was vast
@@sebasbot01 okay, but NATIVE Gauls spoke a Celtic language.
@Вхламинго okay, but i'm talking about NATIVE Gauls
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Native Gauls learned Latin after being conquered, chucklefuck.
Man do I miss the 4-6min videos
Just like german, french and dutch the word "roman" means "novel".
Interesting :)
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Picard?!🖖✌
The only part about the story of Romulus and Remus that is fantastical is the "being breast fed by a she wolf" part, which is a pretty obvious embellishment told to make their leaders seem stronger. The rest of the story is completely grounded and normal sounding. Two brothers decided to build a city (normal in those days), and fought over it.
10:10 Sexy.
Patrick looks pretty good too. But it's hard to resist a silverback.
I thought romanticism also simply meant stores about adventures rather than simply stores about courtship?
I think of all the things I learned in this video, my biggest takeaway is that Patrick is a romantic legless ghost as proven around 10:16. I guess we never have gotten a full body shot of the man. 🤷🏽 🤣👍🏼
I had no idea that it was actually French who gave it the name. Wow
The true meaning of chivalry has nothing to do with love but the concept of knights' obligation to their land and king.
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What the................................
"Roman" is the French wprd for "Novel" (ie the form of writing).
Thr!
I feel like an idiot. ROME-ROMEANCE. It's in the freaking name. Oh wow.
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Wait, the Gaul's are Celtic so... eh or are you talking about after the roman invasion?
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For the algorithm.
Why is Romania (the name) similar to the name of the Roman Empire?
Essentially, it was a key province in the Roman Empire, but was a strategic nightmare, being surrounded on three fronts by barbarian lands. Thus, it was heavily occupied by the Roman military, much like the Rhineland and Valentia (Northern England and part of Wales). Roman forts became the foundation for towns and cities in the region, Roman citizens established long term populations, native Dacians were Romanized, and Dacia was remote enough that the fall of the West was a distant cataclysm while Roman authority remained strong in the much closer Byzantine Empire. Then, as the Ottomans butchered and oppressed their way into Europe, the occupants, then called Wallachians grew increasingly desirous of the better times. So, when they gained independence from the Ottomans, they proclaimed their renewed country Romania, the land of the Romans, and are one of the only countries that actually teaches Latin (though a local dialect) as a second language.
Now do why a salad name after caesar
It's kinda misleading to say the Gauls spoke Romanus. The Gauls had their own language: Gaulish. It was a Celtic language that only became extinct in the 6th century AD, just barely overlapping with the advent of Old French.
Yeah, what he actually SHOULD HAVE said is "the Roman Gauls spoke a language called Romanus"
Yes, but the gaulish language was already fading by that time, and the gauls themselves were assimilated to roman culture and refer to themselves as romans. For example, the "Gallic Empire" (a rebel state which existed during the third century crisis) was never called "gallic" by its contemporaries, as it was just a powerbase for a series of Roman military leaders and aristocrats declared themselves emperors.
It's pronounced Gaul like "gall," not "ghoul!" 😜
Why is it not North Vespucci, Central Vespucci, South Vespucci and The United States of Vespucci? Just saying
we need more romances written for the male millennial.
You're right, more people should learn about the greatest civilization in human history.
But that’s over 1300+ years between the fall of Rome to the love novels. That’s a really long pay-off. The Romans really know how to build indestructible buildings and play the long game.
The German word for novel is Roman.
So in the future after the "great reset" and a new dark age "Engliz" may pertain to "romantic love" because of the many love stories written in the languages descended from the great extinct lingua franca that was the English language.
Or "amence" or "amentic" after the fallen American Empire.
In Portuguese the word for novel is 'Romance' (for example: Graphic Novel = Romance Gráfico)
Video Idea: Why Did Persia change it's name to Iran?
Already been done pretty well by another channel: ua-cam.com/video/zoyctsgMwq0/v-deo.html
It was never called Persia by its own people. Persia was a Greek exonym for the country, much like Parthia was.
5:54 ...yea people just fell in love with those and it wasn't colonially exported LMFAO
Historically speaking, the Romans invented love, the gauls did not know what love was, until after they got integrated
And the Persians focused so much on attacking the beautiful glorious empire of rome, that they did not know what love was until 1999, and the Germans haven't even discovered happiness yet,
Well... the Romans sure didn’t discriminate... i’ll give them that
Haven’t watched the video yet but I’m pretty sure it’s called Romania because it’s located where the Byzantines went after the empire fell
Edit: I read the title wrong and thought it said Romania
For the record
Romania was called "Romania" by a few Italian travellers going to Transylvania, Wallachia and Moldovia who called the three kingdoms "Romania" since Rome owned a tiny portion of the area which was formerly known as Dacia, since the native Dacians lived there.
We Came As Romanz
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And bromance comes from Brome
Bro, the Empire is pretty chill.
Romantic means a lot more than sexual love. A sort-of anti-intellectual cultural and artistic movement, for instance. And Pepe le Pew is an awful sexual assaulter.
He just taking care of business
I dated with girlfriend
Before wathcing video: I think romance was named after the the Romance languages, which people think sounds "lovely". The Romance languages are undoubtably named after their geographical origin, Rome.
Romans were not from Rome, they came from Roma.
Because Greeks got Greek tragedy 🎭 so we had to give the Romans something
Just a joke calm down Jennifer go Rome somewhere else.
Bad Romance
And also, I don't think there're any real French speaking countries in Asia. Probably bcs how much they hate France & how France basically gave up on geopolitical positions in A/P area most former French colonies no longer speak French in any significant extent. (Not official language, not business language, not language of teaching for the majority of the education system, probably not even the most popular foreign language).