Great Video, you give an excellent presentation. Just picked up my Bike today and they made some nice changes. Much better rack, leather screw in grips, a new fork that performs better and is blacked out. Also, the instructions for the controller indicate that P3 is used to switch from imitation torque sensor (p3=1) to Speed control pedal assist (p3=0). Using normal speed control PAS with the bike unlocked would give you a PAS 1 of 18mph. The Imitation torque sensor is really good on this bike and allows perfect control at any speed but you have the option.
@@kurgin the Rack is full size now with two levels, I was told they needed the bigger rack to attach a pull trailer they are now selling. I’m not sure who makes the fork, only that it performs a bit better than the Mizo.
In a nutshell: P2 = 0 - Your PAS levels are governed by speed. P2 = 1 - Your PAS levels are governed by watts. Although I'm not sure why they label P2 = 1 as "imitation torque sensor", Because all it's doing is limiting each pedal assist level to a certain number of watts lol, Like P2 = 0 limits each level to a certain speed... That's it.
I thought they weren't shipping the new model until October or November? Did you get your bike sooner because you opted to pick it up? I just ordered mine and opted to pick it up because I only live a few hours away. That would be SO AWESOME if I got it sooner than November.
@@jaymartinson3236I ordered mine about a week ago and the shipment isn't coming til Jan smh. Already feels like forever. I live in the north east so by Jan I may not even be able to ride it till spring!😫
Make sure you set the p5 setting to 6 NOT 16!!! Also turn in the motor temp sensor...it has one! I made a video about all these settings! ua-cam.com/video/QPCzym77gx0/v-deo.html
Sir, YOUR THE BEST! Thank you for helping us out with this! Can't tell you how much, how many times I've appreciated your sharing your experience and honesty!
Thanks for this. I appreciate having this information. I had my first ride on my freedom yesterday. I am not disappointed. I enjoy all your videos. Keep up the good work.
Thank you SOoooo MUCH!!!! I got my new Freedom 2 days ago but unfortunately that was the same day I had cataract surgery so I haven't got much time in yet. This video is perfect!!!! Thanks again!! P.S. ~ An hour later: I just got my bike up to 40mph and it maintained it. I'm a little guy so I'm sure the weight played a big factor but even so ~ WOW!!!! 🚀🚀🚀
Been learning from you since the start with Rad Rover, I sold my rad that was fully upgraded from watching your videos, now I’m buying a e-cells five star pretty much the same as the wired as u know only there are benefits that the wired doesn’t have like the potted controller, Anyway, I hope that you get an E cells five star and do a review on it also,it’s a very big seller right now👍
Thank you for this information. I am curious to know if any of your other viewers have reported the issue that I had with the wired freedom. The magnets in the motor had become loose at around 300 miles and were making a terrible raspy grinding noise when subjecting it to Power. Wired sent me a new motor core, and I replaced it myself. It wasn’t too difficult. Otherwise, I really like this bike. It’s almost too good, because it’s easy to cheat and not get the required exercise that I need
I was told by the Owners (I picked my bike up yesterday)that they are fully aware of some issues with the first batch and have had discussions with the motor manufacturer and have been assured it will not happen again and are replacing or repairing any affected motors from the first batch. The new batch motors are branded Hentac, a brand from Hangtei, presumably a higher grade.
My Fabulous Ebike EMX Xtreme has the same display but in the vertical rather than the horizontal format. I presume it works the same but perhaps with different factory settings. Seems like a good idea to take a picture of (or otherwise record) the default settings before any tweaking!
CC, here is an update for your subscribers…. I was having an ISSUE with the GRAPHIC BATTERY STATE OF CHARGE not even closely representing the condition of my battery, and so sent an email to Wired. Steven, quickly and graciously responded with this fix… 1). Set P5 setting to 6 instead of 16. -- 2). With the bike on the kick stand lean it left so the back tire is off the ground. -- 3). Put in PAS 1. -- 4). Carefully making certain the rear tire is free and not making contact with ground, advance to full throttle for ten seconds. -- 5. Make certain back tire is stopped before again making ground contact. THIS FIXED MY ISSUE!!!
I had a BeeCool Adventurer that was stolen and replaced it a Wired Freedom. I wanted to purchase from a company that had good first person customer service. The Wired folks are the best!!!
6:25 There has been a change in batteries from LG to Samsung and that P5 need to be set to 8 with Samsung. Great video! Lots of help this provides and thank you!
This needs to be the top reply. Without changing this parameter, the battery will show 0 bars left on the display while the battery button still shows it's half full. Wired supposedly emailed their customers with the info, but my son (who has a Cruiser) never got the email but happened to notice a post on Reddit ebikes.
Awesome information! Thank you for sharing this. It’s so much easier to learn from you than it is for me to read through the manual. I’m really enjoying all of your videos! You’re a great guy and would enjoy meeting you. I can easily call you friend!🙂
New bikes are also an improved frame geometry with much more clearance, 11 cog in the rear and an Acera derailleur and new rack and rear fender. They keep improving the design.
FYI, newer 2024’s, P5 default is 06 and the motor now appears to have a temp sensor C8 = 1 turns on MOTT My bike battery arrived 100% charged 😮. So due to it being winter I get to tilt the thing and run it down to 50% for storage.
L4 parameter is used to adjust the delay time of automatic shutdown of the LCD, the default value is 5, and the range of adjust is 5-120 minutes. 4.1. When L4=5, the delay time is 5 minutes. 4.2. When L4=6, the delay time is 6 minutes. 4.3. When L4=7, the delay time is 7 minutes. …………. 4.4. When L4=120, the delay time is 120 minutes.
Thank you for the great video. I watched it hoping there was a setting to make the throttle more responsive (no delay) and more sensitive (act less like a light switch).
The C15 setting is actually to fine tune the walk assist mode speed. You can enable walk assist by pressing and holding the down key on the key pad. The bike will then power up the motor to run at either 4, 5, or 6 kph depending on what the C15 setting is set to. C15 setting options are either 4, 5, or 6 depending on desired speed.
My biggest problem with this is that I have a gearless hubmotor. Running a 1500w 24" rear off of a 48v 20ah. Trying to get the best possible output out of the bike. Currently building a custom E-Chopper. Currently getting around 30mph. would like to get more. The reason for this is in preparation for building bigger bikes.
@11:18 I think the password setting is useful. If your area has a lot of thieves, then this will deter them. I would rather replace the controller/display verses replacing the entire stolen bike (there is a 1000x more likely chance the bike is stolen verses the password being forgotten).
@@jaymartinson3236 Yes, it is. Also if you forget it. I could easily crack it within a thousand guesses. Some people would rather throw the $2000 bike away in the trash before guessing a thousand times.
@@charliechuckleberry5307personally I just get bicycle insurance. I've seen a lot of stolen bikes around here up for sale on Facebook marketplace. When I respond, the seller doesn't have the battery pack or the keys or battery. Doesn't stop them from selling it though.
The copy settings for controllers is probably for factory uses. They probably wholesale these controllers to Wired and other PEV makers too, so those companies will probably set their own values and then copy them to all of their other controllers without having to input in 1 by 1 for each vehicle, making it a lot faster and lower chances for the wrong input.
The realms c11 allows you to copy from another controller is because those missing L settings are for bonding to another controller. Honestly perfect for the citizen bike.
Could you do a video on the updated 2024 Wired Freedom Display programming? The menus changed (for the better) and no longer have the esoteric programming of the previous model.
Apparently the bikes that just shipped in August have Samsung batteries instead of LG. This means in programming P5 needs to be changed to 8 instead of 16 or your battery levels on the display won't be accurate. I was wondering what was going on. I got my freedom bike yesterday and noticed my battery showed half full after just a few miles of riding on a full charge. I thought I had a bad battery until I received an email from Wired explaining the issue and the fix.
Thanks for this tremendously helpful video! I hope it is okay to request some clarification on C5... I think you are saying selections 3 through 10 allow you to set the "instant on" from dead-start start-up power where 3 would be the lowest power and 10 gives full power. 0,1, and 2 are special in that they give you full power but it provides a ramp up to that point. The ramp itself I would assume is a slower at 0 and is fastest at 2 with selection 1 being somewhere in between. Do I have this correct? Many Thanks!!!
How do I get to the wired freedom chat room? I moved the C5 setting to 1 to slow down the takeoff speed and now the throttle won't work at all even when changing C5 back to 4
I have quik question, on the windone E2 dirt bike version, how do you set the battery percentage on the display in the settings? I can't figure it out.....
Hi I'm new to e bikes.. And after watching about 15 videos on this wfreedom e bike I'm pretty sure i'm going to buy one.. I just want to say thank you for the video I appreciate it. I will definitely be using these settings... Because everything on my own I Is multitudes full potential.. I have a Honda Rockets with a 232 Big Bor kit in it and it will 92 HPM.. and Trust me that's pretty sketchy on small tires.. 😂😂 I have one last question... Do you think we will able to mod this wired freedom with a 72 V battery in the future for more speed..?
It's probably possible to mod it in that way, but the cost to do so wouldn't make sense. If you wanted to spend that kind of money you might be better off putting a whole second battery, controller, and display for a front wheel motor--like CitizenCycle has on his bike that he built... or just sell it and buy a faster electric moped or a motorcycle. Honestly, though... This bike is plenty fast. 38-40mph is really pushing the limits of a bicycle. Any faster and you have all sorts of other things to worry about like the integrity of the tires, etc.
All your videos are so informative and interesting. I am interested in the Wired Freedom, does it have Cruise Control so you don’t have to hold the throttle at all times ? Thanks
@@ozzy6058 you need to link a second controller display that's not password or known password to reset the other controller display. I've never done this procedure but I do know it can be done
Can you do this for the lectric xpremium? I can't get over 24 with gear changes, tire pressure, tire size lies, speed sensor relocation. etc. Power cuts off too soon.
Hi Brian, Thanks again for a great tutorial I have the LCD8HU monitor on my Fabulous Elite ebike and would like to change how long the monitor stays on while stopped but I don't see any settings to do this.....😢 Have you found any way to change this? JP
I appreciate the time and effort you put in to do this, could you do one for the Baolujie sold on Amazon? I think it has the same 4:18 controller as the Philodo. Thanks
"GREAT" informative vid as usual . I do have 2 questions for you about the Wired Freedom , can you reset the trip distance and I was looking into adding a dual battery but couldn't seem to find the xt60 plug that was on their first generation . Can you help ???????????? So far love the new bike !!!!!!!!!!
Is it the same screen as the Fabulons bicycles? i just by today my new ROAD WARRIOR STEP 2024 60V 20 amp battery, 60V 1000 w motor today ! are its settings good for my bike too? Thank you
I had a quick question…in your video you said that the bike came to you with P5 set at 16, and I found the two bikes I just received came with P5 set at 6. Should I change them to 16 or leave it at 6? Thank you for your help
I’m interested in this bike but was looking for a torque sensor bike, I was told this bike can imitate a torque sensor through the control screen settings? I have a lectric bikes now. Which has Candace sensors also and they seem to give you a percentage of power constantly so even if you get over the speed for the pas your in, and you pedaling it still helps you. (I like this) I also have a Magicycle Deer that also has a Candace sensor but that one when you hit pas level ceiling the power cuts out totally so you feel like the brakes were applied. So it’s all or nothing. Putting that bike up for sale, and I’m looking at this one. Could you explain how the sensor works on this bike?
Hello Sir and Thank You. I watched dozens of your videos before buying my Fabulous 750 Trail Bike. It has the same display but I realize the factory settings may differ. Looking to contact you on an issue that I simply cannot find an answer to. As follows: My battery is a 48V 20ah. When I use a multimeter on the bench (battery off bike) I get readings from all 3 sets of contacts. The center contacts (battery has full charge) shows 48.1 V. When I put the battery on the bike, using this display you have described here, the voltage on the display shows 54V. Can you shed any light on this issue? I thought my battery on a multimeter off the bike should register 54V when fully charged. Thank You
My display shows just an orange/yellow bar. Even with a battery showing three bars, the display only shows the one bar, snd it's orange/yellow What setting on my display is incorrect? I tried the P5 setting on 8, 6, and 16, but no change. Any ideas? Thanks
@@jeremywheeler2122 I added a second 60V battery and did not change any settings, They each were on their own charger. All i added was a splitter to keep both batteries even at all times. works great
I watched this when you first posted it and I FINALLY got my Wired Freedom yesterday so I had to watch it again today. I was wondering my I couldn't get my speed past 33-34 MPH. I'm gonna go with a 2 for the most power and fastest "slow" ramp-up of power (if that makes sense). I can't remember what I set it to to get 33-34 MPH but it was less than 10. Tried 10 right off the bat and, yeah, almost got thrown off LOL. I'm used to it now but I have this strange habit of sometimes using the throttle with only my right hand holding the handlebars. That could catch me off guard. Hey, question for you, if you're still reading. My battery voltage was factory set for the one that represents 60v but the battery meter showed half on a full charge and then it actually started going UP as I rode it. Very strange. Any experience with this strange behavior? And thanks for the informative video! 😃
Glad you got yours, hope you love it! for top speed make sure speed limit is set to the max, tires are inflated firm, battery fully charged, and then the rest will probably depends on rider weight.. I have not see any strange behavior on the battery indicator before.
@@CitizenCycle925 I found out what it was. The speed limit was fine. I thought C5 was only intensity. I realized you said it has to do with the amount of power that can go to the motor. It's on 2 now like I said I was going to try and I have access to all the power but it ramps up, which is perfect for me. I had it up to 38 MPH. Yeah, that power meter thing concerns me. I'll have to ask Dan about that.
"My battery voltage was factory set for the one that represents 60v but the battery meter showed half on a full charge" Like jfly2249 says, you now have to set P5 to 8 (instead of 16) to get a more accurate battery reading on the newer bikes since they started using Samsung instead of an LG battery pack.
Citizen, I think Wired gave you bum info about P3. I don't think it will choose whether the throttle matches PAS or always has full throttle available. That's controlled by C4 as you correctly state later in the video. I think P3 will choose between PAS modes. Most bikes PAS mode is speed based, and that is the way it would work with P3 set at 0. With P3 set to 1 like you are using it, then it is in KT's "imitation torque control" power limiting mode instead. I prefer the power limiting mode. It makes powerful ebikes feel smoother. You kind of mention the power limiting when you talk about C14 since it is only functional when using power limiting mode. So if you switch P3 from 1 to 0 then I bet your throttle works the same but the PAS switches to speed limited instead of power limited.
Tell me, I bought this display, but it does not work from a voltage below 47 volts, what is the reason?, the display on the back says 72 volts, it should also work from 24 volts?
Hey bro I have a fully charge battery but my bar on the display screen is reading 1. I have p5 set at 16 and I change it to 17 and 18 and it still displayed 1 bar. I set it back to 16 until I hear from you. Thanks.
Hey got a freedom and in first three rides my power decreased. After initial take off power to where it maxes 13 mph, need help getting it back to normal. Says to be full charged and I set it to your spec suggestions, still takes off but quits picking up after 12 mph what do I focus on ?
Have you ridden it more than a couple miles? When I first rode mine i noticed it wouldn't go over 15. Then wouldn't go over 20, then 25 etc. The motor had kind of a gradual build up before it allowed me to reach max speed. Has yours ever hit max speed?
@@CitizenCycle925 ridden 3 or 4 times and after a mile or 2 it either shuts off or drops power to about nothing, on the display it gives me 3 different low speeds but nothing over 13 and is not reaching 13 even
Io ho una batteria 48 v 20 ampere ,che valore deve avere P5? Se salgo con l'assistenza oltre 1 le barre della batteria scendono all'istante,se torno a 1 risalgono le barre,puoi aiutarmi a mettere l'impostazione corretta?grazie
The issue i have is when i set the speed to UK legal limit it still assists or the assist comes up on the display after 15.5/16mph it is a 250w legal motor with a 36v 15 ah battery its hard to judge if there is still assist being given to the motor past the assigned speed as this i fitted to my Velomobile which is aerodynamically fast anyway and i have still all the gearing ie 9 rear as it is a cassette motor hub which i built into the rim and triple front crank set 36,48,62 so i can get up to 40+mph and cruise on the flat between18 and 25 mph obviously i want to keep to UK rules. But as we all know most bikes can be then pedalled a lot faster after the assist cuts out at set limits but as I've said to people the bike is getting you up to 16 mph with no effort then you can increase your speed through your own leg power but you haven't had to do this from a standing start
But, does each level of pedal assist have a speed limit? In other words, if I'm pedaling along at 25 mph (I like to pedal when I ride so as to greatly extend my range, not just throttle around like a moped), and I need a little boost to stay at that comfortable speed, but only a little, can I utilize PAS 1 at that high of speed? Or, is it set up like some e-bikes (so I've been told) that limit each pedal assist level to a certain top speed (which in my opinion would be really dumb)?
pretty much the same except P5 should be set to 6 so the battery indicator will be accurate, and C8 should be set to 1 since the 2024 versions have a motor temperature sensor. other than that, the settings are the some.
No, you can adjust cutoff voltage up and down a little bit with C12, but the 60v controller won't run very far on the 52v battery. Wouldn't be worth the weight of hauling it imo
I’d be curious to see the results of adding a front hub motor and what wattage motor would work best too. I’d imagine setting the power ramp up to the rear hub motor at a more conservative setting would be a good idea though. Don’t want to lift the front wheel off the ground and having it spin up to a speed that loses traction when it touches down. That would be a recipe for disaster. Although the extra weight up from may help a little.
not for me, i have not had any clearance issues although i have hear this complaint, from what i understand it can be corrected with a slightly longer rear shock which Wired has been providing.
the new version shipping now has a longer frame and plenty of clearance. they upgraded the cassette to 11-34 shimano and acera derailer. to top it off a larger better rack that's super beefy.
I saw 2300 watts trying to beat the rain home today, just HAD to get up that hill QUICKLY! THANK YOU AGAIN...I'm thinking you hear that
A LOT😊
does this display show more than 1999 watts?
@@sinduriy yes , the display shows well over 2000 watts
@ericberg7364 excellent, otherwise lcd3 showed only 2.000 watts. Thx man
Great Video, you give an excellent presentation. Just picked up my Bike today and they made some nice changes. Much better rack, leather screw in grips, a new fork that performs better and is blacked out. Also, the instructions for the controller indicate that P3 is used to switch from imitation torque sensor (p3=1) to Speed control pedal assist (p3=0). Using normal speed control PAS with the bike unlocked would give you a PAS 1 of 18mph. The Imitation torque sensor is really good on this bike and allows perfect control at any speed but you have the option.
hey which fork and rack did you get?
@@kurgin the Rack is full size now with two levels, I was told they needed the bigger rack to attach a pull trailer they are now selling. I’m not sure who makes the fork, only that it performs a bit better than the Mizo.
In a nutshell: P2 = 0 - Your PAS levels are governed by speed. P2 = 1 - Your PAS levels are governed by watts. Although I'm not sure why they label P2 = 1 as "imitation torque sensor", Because all it's doing is limiting each pedal assist level to a certain number of watts lol, Like P2 = 0 limits each level to a certain speed... That's it.
I thought they weren't shipping the new model until October or November? Did you get your bike sooner because you opted to pick it up? I just ordered mine and opted to pick it up because I only live a few hours away. That would be SO AWESOME if I got it sooner than November.
@@jaymartinson3236I ordered mine about a week ago and the shipment isn't coming til Jan smh. Already feels like forever. I live in the north east so by Jan I may not even be able to ride it till spring!😫
My Freedom bike is being delivered on Saturday, so this is freakishly good timing! Thanks for all the excellent content!
Fun bike, hope you enjoy, be safe!
@@CitizenCycle925i have the ER on speed dial!
I think you'll love it. I'm totally happy with mine, WIRED FREEDOM.
Just got mine last week. It's a good bike
I just received my a few days ago. Wow is this bike fast. Your going to love it!
Just had my 2024 wired freedom delivered yesterday. Thanks for this great video. I am using it as we speak.
Make sure you set the p5 setting to 6 NOT 16!!! Also turn in the motor temp sensor...it has one! I made a video about all these settings!
ua-cam.com/video/QPCzym77gx0/v-deo.html
Sir, YOUR THE BEST! Thank you for helping us out with this! Can't tell you how much, how many times I've appreciated your sharing your experience and honesty!
I aim to share all the info I can!
I was just coming here to say this❤
Could I change the P5 and use a 72v battery with stock controller?
I may need to contact WIRED before I risk it. Already have the 20ah 72v battery
@@ericberg7364did you get an answer?
Thanks for this. I appreciate having this information. I had my first ride on my freedom yesterday. I am not disappointed. I enjoy all your videos. Keep up the good work.
I just got my c eired freedom delivered yesterday and lve already found your video so helpful . THANKS
Thank you SOoooo MUCH!!!! I got my new Freedom 2 days ago but unfortunately that was the same day I had cataract surgery so I haven't got much time in yet. This video is perfect!!!! Thanks again!!
P.S. ~ An hour later: I just got my bike up to 40mph and it maintained it. I'm a little guy so I'm sure the weight played a big factor but even so ~ WOW!!!! 🚀🚀🚀
Can you see now? I love my cataract surgery every day still! I can see great without glasses now.
Yes: I can see clearly now the fog is gone!!! One eye is even better than 20/20 (15/20). I only use glasses for reading.@@tenncutt
Some really interesting settings available. They’re seeming to get more advanced with more options every month or two. Thank you for sharing.
Been learning from you since the start with Rad Rover, I sold my rad that was fully upgraded from watching your videos, now I’m buying a e-cells five star pretty much the same as the wired as u know only there are benefits that the wired doesn’t have like the potted controller, Anyway, I hope that you get an E cells five star and do a review on it also,it’s a very big seller right now👍
Thank you for this information. I am curious to know if any of your other viewers have reported the issue that I had with the wired freedom. The magnets in the motor had become loose at around 300 miles and were making a terrible raspy grinding noise when subjecting it to Power. Wired sent me a new motor core, and I replaced it myself. It wasn’t too difficult. Otherwise, I really like this bike. It’s almost too good, because it’s easy to cheat and not get the required exercise that I need
I was told by the Owners (I picked my bike up yesterday)that they are fully aware of some issues with the first batch and have had discussions with the motor manufacturer and have been assured it will not happen again and are replacing or repairing any affected motors from the first batch. The new batch motors are branded Hentac, a brand from Hangtei, presumably a higher grade.
My Fabulous Ebike EMX Xtreme has the same display but in the vertical rather than the horizontal format. I presume it works the same but perhaps with different factory settings. Seems like a good idea to take a picture of (or otherwise record) the default settings before any tweaking!
CC, here is an update for your subscribers…. I was having an ISSUE with the GRAPHIC BATTERY STATE OF CHARGE not even closely representing the condition of my battery, and so sent an email to Wired. Steven, quickly and graciously responded with this fix… 1). Set P5 setting to 6 instead of 16. -- 2). With the bike on the kick stand lean it left so the back tire is off the ground. -- 3). Put in PAS 1. -- 4). Carefully making certain the rear tire is free and not making contact with ground, advance to full throttle for ten seconds. -- 5. Make certain back tire is stopped before again making ground contact. THIS FIXED MY ISSUE!!!
I had a BeeCool Adventurer that was stolen and replaced it a Wired Freedom. I wanted to purchase from a company that had good first person customer service. The Wired folks are the best!!!
Io ho una batteria 48v 20 ampere che valore mi consigli in P5?grazie
You Rock CC... Thanks... My new freedom is in the mail upgrading from Blackbird, can't wait...
6:25 There has been a change in batteries from LG to Samsung and that P5 need to be set to 8 with Samsung.
Great video! Lots of help this provides and thank you!
This needs to be the top reply. Without changing this parameter, the battery will show 0 bars left on the display while the battery button still shows it's half full. Wired supposedly emailed their customers with the info, but my son (who has a Cruiser) never got the email but happened to notice a post on Reddit ebikes.
For those just seeing this now, the factory recommendation is now setting 2024 Samsung battery bikes to P5=6.
@@gutturfI got the email and adjusted and Im pretty sure it was 8?
By the way, love your videos, just got my titan freedom delivered, wow, great bike
great info... don't have a wired I'm rocking my modded out rover 5 but it is awesome how you are always looking out for your subscribers...
Awesome information! Thank you for sharing this. It’s so much easier to learn from you than it is for me to read through the manual.
I’m really enjoying all of your videos!
You’re a great guy and would enjoy meeting you. I can easily call you friend!🙂
New bikes are also an improved frame geometry with much more clearance, 11 cog in the rear and an Acera derailleur and new rack and rear fender. They keep improving the design.
my freedom came the other day and has an altus derailer. I can't seem to get it to go into 1st gear. adjustment screw is doing nothing.
This vid will come in very handy! Thank you so much!!!
Very well articulated. Thank you
FYI, newer 2024’s, P5 default is 06 and the motor now appears to have a temp sensor C8 = 1 turns on MOTT
My bike battery arrived 100% charged 😮. So due to it being winter I get to tilt the thing and run it down to 50% for storage.
L4 parameter is used to adjust the delay time of automatic shutdown of the LCD, the
default value is 5, and the range of adjust is 5-120 minutes.
4.1. When L4=5, the delay time is 5 minutes.
4.2. When L4=6, the delay time is 6 minutes.
4.3. When L4=7, the delay time is 7 minutes.
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4.4. When L4=120, the delay time is 120 minutes.
Great instructional video. Thank you.
Thank you for the great video. I watched it hoping there was a setting to make the throttle more responsive (no delay) and more sensitive (act less like a light switch).
Absolutely incredible video and very useful for all. Thank you
Thank you lots for making this video! It helps alot!
The C15 setting is actually to fine tune the walk assist mode speed. You can enable walk assist by pressing and holding the down key on the key pad. The bike will then power up the motor to run at either 4, 5, or 6 kph depending on what the C15 setting is set to. C15 setting options are either 4, 5, or 6 depending on desired speed.
Thank you so much I just got my cruiser and this was so helpful
My biggest problem with this is that I have a gearless hubmotor. Running a 1500w 24" rear off of a 48v 20ah. Trying to get the best possible output out of the bike. Currently building a custom E-Chopper. Currently getting around 30mph. would like to get more. The reason for this is in preparation for building bigger bikes.
Just received my Cruiser.. Thank you for the great video….
@11:18 I think the password setting is useful. If your area has a lot of thieves, then this will deter them. I would rather replace the controller/display verses replacing the entire stolen bike (there is a 1000x more likely chance the bike is stolen verses the password being forgotten).
I wonder what kind of password it is? 4 digit pin? That would be easy to remember.
@@jaymartinson3236 Yes, it is. Also if you forget it. I could easily crack it within a thousand guesses. Some people would rather throw the $2000 bike away in the trash before guessing a thousand times.
@@charliechuckleberry5307personally I just get bicycle insurance. I've seen a lot of stolen bikes around here up for sale on Facebook marketplace. When I respond, the seller doesn't have the battery pack or the keys or battery. Doesn't stop them from selling it though.
C15 is the Walk Assist Speed in kph . You can choose between 4,5, or 6. Default is 6 which I find to fast.
The copy settings for controllers is probably for factory uses. They probably wholesale these controllers to Wired and other PEV makers too, so those companies will probably set their own values and then copy them to all of their other controllers without having to input in 1 by 1 for each vehicle, making it a lot faster and lower chances for the wrong input.
The realms c11 allows you to copy from another controller is because those missing L settings are for bonding to another controller. Honestly perfect for the citizen bike.
Nice review. Very helpful.
thank you !!! mine came with only peddle assist.. got it going now .. !!! gave Thumbs UP!!!
Are you going to make a video on the new 2024 controller how to turn down the power on pedal assist but have full power with throttle
Could you do a video on the updated 2024 Wired Freedom Display programming? The menus changed (for the better) and no longer have the esoteric programming of the previous model.
The page citizencycle did one. It's called "Wired e-bike programming guide". Hope this helps
Apparently the bikes that just shipped in August have Samsung batteries instead of LG. This means in programming P5 needs to be changed to 8 instead of 16 or your battery levels on the display won't be accurate.
I was wondering what was going on. I got my freedom bike yesterday and noticed my battery showed half full after just a few miles of riding on a full charge. I thought I had a bad battery until I received an email from Wired explaining the issue and the fix.
Thanks for this tremendously helpful video! I hope it is okay to request some clarification on C5... I think you are saying selections 3 through 10 allow you to set the "instant on" from dead-start start-up power where 3 would be the lowest power and 10 gives full power. 0,1, and 2 are special in that they give you full power but it provides a ramp up to that point. The ramp itself I would assume is a slower at 0 and is fastest at 2 with selection 1 being somewhere in between. Do I have this correct? Many Thanks!!!
How do I get to the wired freedom chat room?
I moved the C5 setting to 1 to slow down the takeoff speed and now the throttle won't work at all even when changing C5 back to 4
I also tried the C10 setting to Y but it didn't reset at all.
I have quik question, on the windone E2 dirt bike version, how do you set the battery percentage on the display in the settings? I can't figure it out.....
i use your videos, i got the cruiser in titian color. Thank you very much for the great videos
Hi I'm new to e bikes.. And after watching about 15 videos on this wfreedom e bike I'm pretty sure i'm going to buy one.. I just want to say thank you for the video I appreciate it. I will definitely be using these settings... Because everything on my own I Is multitudes full potential.. I have a Honda Rockets with a 232 Big Bor kit in it and it will 92 HPM.. and Trust me that's pretty sketchy on small tires.. 😂😂 I have one last question... Do you think we will able to mod this wired freedom with a 72 V battery in the future for more speed..?
It's probably possible to mod it in that way, but the cost to do so wouldn't make sense.
If you wanted to spend that kind of money you might be better off putting a whole second battery, controller, and display for a front wheel motor--like CitizenCycle has on his bike that he built... or just sell it and buy a faster electric moped or a motorcycle.
Honestly, though... This bike is plenty fast. 38-40mph is really pushing the limits of a bicycle. Any faster and you have all sorts of other things to worry about like the integrity of the tires, etc.
All your videos are so informative and interesting. I am interested in the Wired Freedom, does it have Cruise Control so you don’t have to hold the throttle at all times ? Thanks
It would be great if you could do a video on setting up the front suspension . Or front and rear . Bet you’ll get a lot of hits
C11 connection protocol you can tell copy or reset a new password on a control you lost pw via second display
How do I reset it?
@@ozzy6058 you need to link a second controller display that's not password or known password to reset the other controller display.
I've never done this procedure but I do know it can be done
Can you do this for the lectric xpremium? I can't get over 24 with gear changes, tire pressure, tire size lies, speed sensor relocation. etc. Power cuts off too soon.
Hi Brian,
Thanks again for a great tutorial
I have the LCD8HU monitor on my Fabulous Elite ebike and would like to change how long the monitor stays on while stopped but I don't see any settings to do this.....😢
Have you found any way to change this?
JP
I appreciate the time and effort you put in to do this, could you do one for the Baolujie sold on Amazon? I think it has the same 4:18 controller as the Philodo. Thanks
What battery you using for that settings? 60v?
Great video, thanks 👍
Thank you sir for explaining all that...........
Thank you so much this is perfect
"GREAT" informative vid as usual . I do have 2 questions for you about the Wired Freedom , can you reset the trip distance and I was looking into adding a dual battery but couldn't seem to find the xt60 plug that was on their first generation . Can you help ???????????? So far love the new bike !!!!!!!!!!
I wish you would make a video on getting mounted and get off Wired Freedom. . I have a bad back . Was wondering how difficult it is
Can you do a video on the five star? I’m guessing the settings would be the same
Is it the same screen as the Fabulons bicycles? i just by today my new ROAD WARRIOR STEP 2024 60V 20 amp battery, 60V 1000 w motor today ! are its settings good for my bike too? Thank you
Thank you.... however, you didnt show or say how you back out / save and close. ???
Just hold the power button for a few seconds to save your settings and exit
I had a quick question…in your video you said that the bike came to you with P5 set at 16, and I found the two bikes I just received came with P5 set at 6. Should I change them to 16 or leave it at 6? Thank you for your help
Leave at 6
I’m interested in this bike but was looking for a torque sensor bike, I was told this bike can imitate a torque sensor through the control screen settings? I have a lectric bikes now. Which has Candace sensors also and they seem to give you a percentage of power constantly so even if you get over the speed for the pas your in, and you pedaling it still helps you. (I like this) I also have a Magicycle Deer that also has a Candace sensor but that one when you hit pas level ceiling the power cuts out totally so you feel like the brakes were applied. So it’s all or nothing. Putting that bike up for sale, and I’m looking at this one. Could you explain how the sensor works on this bike?
Thank you! Super helpful!
Hello Sir and Thank You. I watched dozens of your videos before buying my Fabulous 750 Trail Bike. It has the same display but I realize the factory settings may differ. Looking to contact you on an issue that I simply cannot find an answer to. As follows: My battery is a 48V 20ah. When I use a multimeter on the bench (battery off bike) I get readings from all 3 sets of contacts. The center contacts (battery has full charge) shows 48.1 V. When I put the battery on the bike, using this display you have described here, the voltage on the display shows 54V. Can you shed any light on this issue? I thought my battery on a multimeter off the bike should register 54V when fully charged. Thank You
Thankyou for this. Is there ANY difference in the Display on the revised 2024 Freedom?
same programming setting. the 2024 does have a motor temp indicator but display looks same other than that.
Excellent info ,thanks
What does the speed magnet do, should it be at at 1 or 6?
thanks for this video. got her all set to rip now.
Hi, I have a question about up grade kit, I have 2018 rad rover with the Original motor, how your set for this ? Thanks.
My display shows just an
orange/yellow bar. Even with a battery showing three bars, the display only shows the one bar, snd it's orange/yellow
What setting on my display is incorrect?
I tried the P5 setting on 8, 6, and 16, but no change.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Change P5 to 6 and prop the bike up on kickstand and run full throttle thru all the pedal assist levels, I think that calibrates it.
@@CitizenCycle925 , I think you might be right.
I used the factory reset and took the bike for a run.
The battery status is once again proper.
Thanks!
If I add a second battery (60V 20ah) and run them both into the controller, should I change the P5 setting? great video
Did you ever figure this out on your own? I'd like to do the same. I have a order 24 version
@@jeremywheeler2122 I added a second 60V battery and did not change any settings, They each were on their own charger. All i added was a splitter to keep both batteries even at all times. works great
I watched this when you first posted it and I FINALLY got my Wired Freedom yesterday so I had to watch it again today. I was wondering my I couldn't get my speed past 33-34 MPH. I'm gonna go with a 2 for the most power and fastest "slow" ramp-up of power (if that makes sense). I can't remember what I set it to to get 33-34 MPH but it was less than 10. Tried 10 right off the bat and, yeah, almost got thrown off LOL. I'm used to it now but I have this strange habit of sometimes using the throttle with only my right hand holding the handlebars. That could catch me off guard.
Hey, question for you, if you're still reading. My battery voltage was factory set for the one that represents 60v but the battery meter showed half on a full charge and then it actually started going UP as I rode it. Very strange. Any experience with this strange behavior? And thanks for the informative video! 😃
Glad you got yours, hope you love it! for top speed make sure speed limit is set to the max, tires are inflated firm, battery fully charged, and then the rest will probably depends on rider weight.. I have not see any strange behavior on the battery indicator before.
@@CitizenCycle925 I found out what it was. The speed limit was fine. I thought C5 was only intensity. I realized you said it has to do with the amount of power that can go to the motor. It's on 2 now like I said I was going to try and I have access to all the power but it ramps up, which is perfect for me. I had it up to 38 MPH. Yeah, that power meter thing concerns me. I'll have to ask Dan about that.
P5=8 for Samsung
"My battery voltage was factory set for the one that represents 60v but the battery meter showed half on a full charge" Like jfly2249 says, you now have to set P5 to 8 (instead of 16) to get a more accurate battery reading on the newer bikes since they started using Samsung instead of an LG battery pack.
Quick question... do you have a reseller who sells this bike in Australia ??
Citizen, I think Wired gave you bum info about P3. I don't think it will choose whether the throttle matches PAS or always has full throttle available. That's controlled by C4 as you correctly state later in the video.
I think P3 will choose between PAS modes. Most bikes PAS mode is speed based, and that is the way it would work with P3 set at 0. With P3 set to 1 like you are using it, then it is in KT's "imitation torque control" power limiting mode instead. I prefer the power limiting mode. It makes powerful ebikes feel smoother. You kind of mention the power limiting when you talk about C14 since it is only functional when using power limiting mode.
So if you switch P3 from 1 to 0 then I bet your throttle works the same but the PAS switches to speed limited instead of power limited.
I’m a fat almost 300 pound dude and this bike is perfect. The seat is Heaven to my cheeks 👍
Hahaha Seat's not that bad I guess 🙂 better than a lot of bikes I get.
Wire told me to leave P5 on number 6. On the 2024 model
This is correct..and it DOES have a motor temperature sensor! I made a video about it.....ua-cam.com/video/QPCzym77gx0/v-deo.html
Tell me, I bought this display, but it does not work from a voltage below 47 volts, what is the reason?, the display on the back says 72 volts, it should also work from 24 volts?
I have 60v 40ah custom made battery, what p5 I need to set?
Help me please 🙏
That's sick, I didn't know it had cruise. I'll just relax my legs on the bars and take a nap🥱😴
Thanks you!
Hey bro I have a fully charge battery but my bar on the display screen is reading 1. I have p5 set at 16 and I change it to 17 and 18 and it still displayed 1 bar. I set it back to 16 until I hear from you. Thanks.
Look at the label on your battery pack and if it says Samsung then set P5 to 8 instead.
@@CitizenCycle925 I will check when I get back home. thank you.
It's working now. Thanks for the guidance.
@@CitizenCycle925
@@CitizenCycle925 15:12
Thank u!!!
I want to change the speed limit to 50 km/h (now it is 72 km/h) but I cannot change anything in the controller's settings.
What can I do?
are you holding the right brake while you do settings?
@@timothywarehime5956 Thank you.
I tried that too and I can't change the settings.
Dope video.
Hey got a freedom and in first three rides my power decreased. After initial take off power to where it maxes 13 mph, need help getting it back to normal. Says to be full charged and I set it to your spec suggestions, still takes off but quits picking up after 12 mph what do I focus on ?
Have you ridden it more than a couple miles? When I first rode mine i noticed it wouldn't go over 15. Then wouldn't go over 20, then 25 etc. The motor had kind of a gradual build up before it allowed me to reach max speed. Has yours ever hit max speed?
@@CitizenCycle925 yes
@@CitizenCycle925 ridden 3 or 4 times and after a mile or 2 it either shuts off or drops power to about nothing, on the display it gives me 3 different low speeds but nothing over 13 and is not reaching 13 even
I have a question do have to relace wheel on rad rover 6 plus to install 750 watt bag and motor
Io ho una batteria 48 v 20 ampere ,che valore deve avere P5? Se salgo con l'assistenza oltre 1 le barre della batteria scendono all'istante,se torno a 1 risalgono le barre,puoi aiutarmi a mettere l'impostazione corretta?grazie
The issue i have is when i set the speed to UK legal limit it still assists or the assist comes up on the display after 15.5/16mph it is a 250w legal motor with a 36v 15 ah battery its hard to judge if there is still assist being given to the motor past the assigned speed as this i fitted to my Velomobile which is aerodynamically fast anyway and i have still all the gearing ie 9 rear as it is a cassette motor hub which i built into the rim and triple front crank set 36,48,62 so i can get up to 40+mph and cruise on the flat between18 and 25 mph obviously i want to keep to UK rules. But as we all know most bikes can be then pedalled a lot faster after the assist cuts out at set limits but as I've said to people the bike is getting you up to 16 mph with no effort then you can increase your speed through your own leg power but you haven't had to do this from a standing start
If you have the Engwe Engine Pro Upgraded ebike can you do a video like this for that bike?
My P5 setting on the bike I just picked up now in March 2024 equals 6. Should that be correct?
Yes, that's correct
@@CitizenCycle925Yes. These are different batteries, according to Tami
At what mileage should I lube the hub motor?
But, does each level of pedal assist have a speed limit?
In other words, if I'm pedaling along at 25 mph (I like to pedal when I ride so as to greatly extend my range, not just throttle around like a moped), and I need a little boost to stay at that comfortable speed, but only a little, can I utilize PAS 1 at that high of speed? Or, is it set up like some e-bikes (so I've been told) that limit each pedal assist level to a certain top speed (which in my opinion would be really dumb)?
That's the old version of the Wired Freedom. Do these settings also apply to the '24 version?
pretty much the same except P5 should be set to 6 so the battery indicator will be accurate, and C8 should be set to 1 since the 2024 versions have a motor temperature sensor. other than that, the settings are the some.
Does anyone one know how to use the wired freedom 2024 black version 1 battery throttle?Only pedal assist is working.
my P5 setting came set at 06 not 16. should I change it
Will this work with Velotric Discover 1?
Great job on this video. Do you know if you could select a battery voltage so I could use a 52 volt battery as a back up ?
No, you can adjust cutoff voltage up and down a little bit with C12, but the 60v controller won't run very far on the 52v battery. Wouldn't be worth the weight of hauling it imo
LCD screen has a 0 and it shows Throttle comes on but bike does not move?? . Ideas??
If pedal assist number is set to 0 throttle won't be active, bump pedal assist to 1 and try throttle.
TY it Worked :)
@@CitizenCycle925
Thinking about how a 750 or 1000 watt front hub motor would be on my wicked cruiser? Anyone here done that?
I’d be curious to see the results of adding a front hub motor and what wattage motor would work best too. I’d imagine setting the power ramp up to the rear hub motor at a more conservative setting would be a good idea though. Don’t want to lift the front wheel off the ground and having it spin up to a speed that loses traction when it touches down. That would be a recipe for disaster. Although the extra weight up from may help a little.
If C5 is at 3 or 4 does that limit total power?
yes settings 3 thru 9 limit the power, 10 is full power, 0,1,2 are full power but have a slower start.
How do you remove the speed limit cap?
Hi. Is the rear tire rubbing on the 40 amp control box?
not for me, i have not had any clearance issues although i have hear this complaint, from what i understand it can be corrected with a slightly longer rear shock which Wired has been providing.
the new version shipping now has a longer frame and plenty of clearance. they upgraded the cassette to 11-34 shimano and acera derailer. to top it off a larger better rack that's super beefy.