Logseq: Rating Notes Apps (out of 100)
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
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Logseq: a digital notetaking app that's free, local, open source, and has nearly infinite plugins. But does that make it a good Second Brain? We talk to Ramses Oudt, Logseq Expert, to find out.
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00:00 Introducing Logseq
00:20 Factor 1: Search (Finding Notes)
01:38 Factor 2: Reusability (Copy, Paste, Embeds)
02:20 Factor 3: Access (Offline, Mobile, Sync)
03:47 Factor 4: Share (Publishing, Collaboration)
05:49 Factor 5: Ease of Use (Editing, Outlines, Markdown)
07:00 Factor 6: Upgrading (Plugins, Advanced Features)
08:29 Factor 7: Transfer (Local Files, Export)
09:49 Factor 8: Connect (Backlinks, Publish)
11:08 Factor 9: Capture (Webpages, Audio, PDF, Video)
12:50 Factor 10: Organize (Links, Tags, Metadata)
14:32 Bonus Factor: Security (Local Files, Encryption)
15:39 Final Ratings: Logseq
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Love Logseq. Needs some more polish but it’s close to perfect for my brain and way of thinking
Using Logseq changed my work life. Went from not confident in my organization to completely in charge of documentation both personally and for my team at work.
Would rate the security a 10 just because it is FOSS. It's one of the main selling points of this software. Since the source code is for everyone to see, any vulnerabilities present in the software that the devs may have missed out, will be pointed out immediately by the community, comparing it to something like Obsidian, Notion, etc. where you have to TRUST the devs to not screw up and release a version without vulnerabilities.
It is also "secure" (or future-proof) in a sense that when all comes to worst and Logseq has to shutdown, since it's FOSS, it's more likely that the community will fork it and continue development from there. Since it also has an APGL license, the forks must also have an AGPL license, protecting logseq forks from ever being proprietary.
Nah about what?
@@AbatuBlouu
Don't idealize open source, there's not many people reading the code and they don't find all the bugs / backdoors. Case in point, they find bugs daily in the linux kernel which probably has more eyes on it than any other software projects. Of course a kernel is more complex than a note taking app.
@@jeroboam4486 oh its definitely an ideal, it's just that security isn't the reason. Freedom is. Better security potential is a nice consequence though.
I think that the most underrated logseq feature is the time-centered note organization provided by the journals.
It's life-changing to have a white canvas that invites you to write no matter what have in your mind and still, with a couple hashtags (even if they don´t conduit to anything yet) be able to get all your notes organized by topic or time to use this information later. This is the main difference between obsidian and logseq and for mi, Logseq/roam has the most natural logic of organization to build a second brain.
Oh yeah, only a few weeks in and I am already starting to see patterns of my life through the graph view, making me understand where my time is being spent and what are the things i am doing or have done
What a wonderfully edited video! I'm very happy to see you interviewing so many figures in the PKM community, and continue to grow your coverage of the many, many concerns of personal knowledge management
Would love to see this scoring matched with some kind of general form people could fill in to see how it compares to the end users. While I love Logseq the rating is a bit high if I look at it from a point of a less technical person. But I consider that just a matter of time and feedback from critical people.
Excellent video, and I might steal some of those visualization idea's
Hi Bas! Thanks for all your work! I realy level up my usage of logseq and switch from evernote! Keep going 💪💪💪
@@daliboroslav Always great to hear!
Logseq es la mejor opción para "Second Brian". Gracias a ambos.
Planning for my UA-cam channel has entirely moved to logseq. Thank s a lot for this team.
I hope you're making a series out of it and then a recap of those interview sessions for different tools. These are very biased ratings, and it would be good to know, how each tool is shining or failing in each category based on that feedback and maybe your experience.
Yup, this is the best perspective of from an expert with deep expertise. We are working our way towards having all the initial introductions before comparing!
@@TiagoForte Thank you, Tiago, or whoever handles the account! I'm trying Obsidian right now, with a bit of support via Nick Milo's Linking Your Thinking approach. Visually, he provided the best color scheme for Obsidian notes, and the integration of other tools becomes important when capturing ideas.
The feature in Logseq regarding UA-cam video timestamps is wonderful, as my major source of information gathering comes from UA-cam videos, followed by podcasts websites. It's so critical to have these options to not only write down the notes, but also connect them to the actual source material's location, where the information is found.
As I noticed there are a tons of similarities between Obsidian and LogSeq. I watched the video with Nick Milo from this channel as well.
Now I would love to see a video about the differences between these two apps.
I think the biggest difference for me has been the ability to embed notes at a block level inside of other notes and any edits made are made to all versions of that block. Same with pages.
@@jwack ok, that makes it extremely interesting for me. I am usually a librarian (according to Tiagos categorization), but there is something which catch is my interest of these outliner Apps for years.
i use both. logseq is better to just open up and begin. obsidian better for longer notes, and probably better overall
@@paulywalnutz5855 i see the never-end setup possibility as one of the biggest obsidian cons. Logseq is a simpler and natural notetaking canvas that encourages writing and prevents you from losing yourself in the possibility of improving the organization of your information rather than using it. They aren't the same and overall, there is no one better than the other.
Exactly! Plus No folders at all and building your structure from bottom up is lifechanging!
For longer texts you can hit TD and bullets are gone. Easy
I was having difficulties with Logseq because I was looking for files and folders... now I have to rethink the way I work with my notes! Thanks for this video, nobody shows me how really Logseq works. Also, I can use PARA method also, just adding a link the de PARA category.
Glad I could help!
Thanks for the sharing. I was looking for an app like this, from several months
Thank you for this video
I'm looking forward to the OneNote episode.
Thank you 👍👏Nice Idea, i will try it
11:44 That’s useful and cool!
can i ask, what do you,* if anything, use for chat/communication/team interaction/workflow/project management?
*mr. oudt or anyone involved or commenting...
really nice, would you do the same with Obsidian ?
since there is no folders, how wouuld you use logseq for the PARA method?
Namespaces/hierarchies. You'd name a page projects/project1. Of course, if you have non-note files you want to include you'd have to store those somewhere else.
2:12 Knowledge Reuse.
7:01 Knowledge update.
12:50 Knowledge structure.
I like Logseq, but for me it lacks better Zotero integration. Obsidian has some cool plugins, so I stick with it.
Please do something like this with Anytype!
So an open-source Obsidian?
Would have liked to have seen printing options covered.
Microsoft Loop will take a shot sometime soon to the BASB and Zettelkasten methodologies, that's exciting
first!
Offline first makes the difference for me.
Logseq is the best
Surprised you’re not familiar with markdown syntax as so many other note taking and writing apps can utilize
I have a feeling he knows, but was just asking so it can be clarified for viewers who might not know.
Looks like you're going for an Apple-style qulity only content.
Is this Elon Musk interviewing Ben Affleck?
I don't quite see the point in having a member of the team rating the very product they are working on. Of course it's going to be a favourable score...
There is no way to do this objectively. A person not connected to the tool will not know all the features. A person from outside the team, a professional user, will still favor the application they're using. Plus, there are unlimited ways to use the tools - feature A may be brilliant for you, but it will be bad for my workflow, and vice versa.
Thanks @panpiotrs! This is exactly why we have the most deeply qualified person be introducing the app - we'd rather be comprehensive and overly positive than not show off the depth that only someone deeply familiar with the app can convey, especially if it's someone's first introduction to the app.
The tradeoff of greater familiarity is being more positive overall. We'll do a more critical analysis of the apps we're rating in the future. If you want to get a more critical take in the meantime, just subtract 2 points from all the ratings here and you'll approximate a more critical rating! :)
I’m currently reading your book ‘Building a Second Brain.’ What are some apps that you would recommend for building a Second Brain?
A '7' for Access is generous considering there isn't an Android app
There is, and works well
@@albertoleal7387 if there is it’s not in the Play Store
@@MrSaeedted it’s in Logseq downloads page as apk
Thank you. But this is super biased
from another comment (not us): "There is no way to do this objectively. A person not connected to the tool will not know all the features. A person from outside the team, a professional user, will still favor the application they're using. Plus, there are unlimited ways to use the tools - feature A may be brilliant for you, but it will be bad for my workflow, and vice versa."
Thanks for watching! :)