Brilliant review. Yes, folks are still finding this video. As an American, I can only say, you've done a proper job comparing these products. And sans the showboating, fanfare, and obnoxious music of the other channels. Keep up the great work! Everyone, consider a $1 /month patreon subscription to facilitate this gentleman to produce more videos.
I have watched thousands of videos on UA-cam. I have never left one comment ever. This is the best informational video I have ever seen. Perfect. No flaws at all. Everything I needed to know in one video. Great job
Finally, someone doing a respectable high effort "scientific" review rather than all the YT amateur attempts that get far too many undeserved views for their 10 minute unexperienced "review". Great job that earned my Subscribe.
cheers for that and welcome to the channel. the science side is pretty basic on the channel.. the more I learn about this stuff the more I realise the less i know... but part of the fun in doing it is learning as well.
Greetings from Metro Atlanta GA, USA! This was an excellent comparison testing of three highly rated ceramic car coating/maintence products! Kudos to you for the hard work and thoughtful consideration of all three companies. You've given car owners around the world very good, unbiased, and helpful opinion on these products. Again, job very well done! Thank you!
Nice review, thank you for doing it. few notes i'd like to share, CQUK doesnt need to wait for wipe off, almost wipe on wipe off , Gliss is not ceramic base , its a Fluorine base made for topping to add water spot protection ,gloss, slickness and hydrophobic, gloss measuring you must test in exact spot each time otherwise you wont get same reading , the painted surface is not flat completely to get exact measures. all in all very good video.
great stuff guys. your right about the gloss meter. you cant really use it on non flat car panels with any accuracy, you can totally change the reading with just a tiny lean of the tool. needs to sit flat. even on flat test panels you can create a large variance in the readings from downward pressure. so for me the most important thing was to try and take a hell of a lot of readings. sometimes 60 per test. and then use averages. so I was kind of obtaining overall average before a test overall average after it. One other thing is you cannot compare gloss readings on different calibrations sets either. so comparisons were only made within each test set. so many other limitations really. One thing that came out of this testing that was consistent over 2 different panels CQUK after a 1 week cure has a very high level of gloss. Had a lot going for it as a single coating that does everything well.. I know you guys are pushing the boundaries and I think all 3 companies are doing a great job and the products all have their little advantages and disadvantages.
Forensic Detailing Channel thank you, you doing great job as well, we will show new cquk update soon after 6 years we had same formula. Hope you can test that too.
Hi Jon as usual a super video, I have to thank you for all the hundreds of hours of work you've put in and given it to people like me. I looked into patreon to support you but at the moment even the minimum is more than we can give, but in the future I will support you. Keep up the great work I hope that eventually you make a good living from it, you fully deserve it.
@@ForensicDetailing Thanks Jon but your the nicest of all and thousands of your people would agree, your often mentioned on Detailing World and always saying how good and impartial you are, always before I buy anything detailing I look for one of your videos even the wife joins in sometimes, we often literally laugh so hard we cry, I suffer high blood pressure and you my friend help bring it down, double score detailing and better health can't be bad hey. The laughing bit is me, I have a REALLY wild imagination and for instance when you said on the drying towel test use it as a matador, my wild went mad seeing a red towel and the car chasing it as we tried to dry it, I tell the wife and we're laughing like you'd never believe. But on another note your methods and testing is truly awesome how to get to work out what to do and make the test valid is astounding. Your brain must never stop working things out. Before I found you like a microfiber cloth was just that, heck did I think for a moment so much work went into developing every detailing product. And as much as they develop you sort of undeveloped if I'm getting that right? I'm trying to say you take it back from finished then backwards to where it began, even to the origin of the materials.
From a Guy with 5 cars this was an eye-opener. the word "Ceramic" was mentioned to me yesterday on the Golf Course so I looked it up and found your video. Brilliant Video !! From a guy like me who cleans cars almost every day. One Hell of a lot of Preparation and cleaning though before you can apply, but WHAT A PRODUCT !! I am 70 yoa. and never heard of it. So its the 7 "P's" Prior Planning & Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance. I can Manage that especially on my 5.3Ltr. Twin Turbo, Quad. Exhaust, 8 cylinder, Supercharged, XKR Jaguar Convertible with Red Metallic Paint & Cream Leather. Keep up the Good Work with your Video's. Kind Regards, Keith
I commend you for doing the hard work of comparing these. My cars coated with gtechniq (pro grade) and its been preforming great for a year. These top coats are by far the best investment people put in their car yet it seems no one has compared them up until now. I hope your video reaches many.
Probably the best comparison/review of top-tier ceramic coatings I've seen. Looking forward to the review of lesser known ones, like MR-FIX 9H and alike, which I think have seen in the background in your previous video.
This is the most helpful, and articulate Video I have found on Ceramic coatings across the entire internet. I have learned so much more and understand Ceramic coatings greater. Very well done good sir!
A very well presented & non biased test & you’ve taken a lot of time & effort doing this test. Very easy for people to make their own mind up as to which product to buy. Great video
I applied Eco V3, in two layers, on my Lexus in Sept/Oct 2017. The coating made it through a road salt covered Canadian winter brilliantly. For only being washed twice in that time period of 6-7 months, the coating performing very well, with water beading like it was freshly applied. Also excellent gloss and very easy application. I am very happy with Eco V3. The previous winter, I tried the CarPro CQuartz (non UK version) and application was very difficult in an uncontrolled environment and the product failed to survive a Canadian winter. Thumbs up to ExoV3! Unfortunately I have traded the Lexus in so I will now have to prep and coat the replacement GLK and perhaps try the GEON line! Thanks for the great videos!
I purchased Crystal Serum Light rather than C1, as it is their highest end consumer coating and is only $10 on average more than C1, while still being the same price or cheaper than Mohs and CQUK. It holds up better and you really don't need EXO as a topper for it if you use C2V3 spray. It has been very good over the 6 months I have used it, only once applying the C2V3 spray topper on it. This is from late summer, through fall with regular washes with Gtechniq GWash and then less regular washing in winter on salty roads. Car is driven daily, on all road conditions (including salt and snow) and not garaged. It has done well, and should last the longest of any of the coatings on the market according to my research. It was also the cheapest option for me in the USA. That said, I would probably go with Mohs and Skin next time around, because it has the ultimate in water relepelancy, but I question durability.
Great video, thanks for taking the time to do the research! It would be interesting to see a side by side of how the US and UK version of CQuartz compare. Have you tried mixing and matching different base and top coats with different maintenance sprays? I'm curious if you could create a hybrid system that beats the individual sets.
Jon, thanks for putting in so much effort in this and all your videos. You provide astonishing attention to detail and unbiased testing, whilst delivering your content in plain English.
Great info! I've used CQuk on my Black 2016 Mustang. It was an incredible chore to buff it off after application, with the resistance and stickiness nearly yanking the microfiber out of my hands. It also had incredible high spots, likely due to the difficulty wiping it off. I adored the shine, but it only seemed to last about 3 months in the Chicago spring before needing to spring for more Reload and kept pumping. After one panel, I needed to dilute it to keep it from streaking over the black paint. I can tell you that CQuk did not fair well in the Chicago winter, although not sure if thats a fair judgement of the product - nothing fairs well in the Chicago winter. I'm planning on picking up the Gyeon kit and applying that once the sun finally comes back. Thanks for helping me along to that choice!
@@ukswiftersThe lol, no. I sold the car and moved on. Black on a year round car in the Midwest is a futile endeavor. Since then, I've moved on from full coatings to using ceramic detailing sprays. The winters are too brutal and I've not seen a single coating last at all. And, they've come a long, long way. Good shine, protects decently for about a month and very easy to apply/reapply. Great bang for buck and time.
Just became a Patreon supporter for you as you put tons of work into your videos! Last September I ordered CarPro Cquartz and was told it's a bit thicker and will last longer than the UK version, but needs to be at least 68 degrees so I will need to wait until March/April to apply. I am in the Chicago USA and can't wait to use it. Wished you had used the CarPro Cquartz in your testing. Thank you Christopher
christopher thanks so much mate. welcome aboard as a patreon, support like that means a hell of a lot to me. thank you so much. I think just being in the UK it was perhaps more relevent to me, but hopefully we can take a look at cquartz as well at some point.
Hey thanks for making this channel ! about 8 years ago I purchased 3lbs of pure carnauba wax I tried to make my own and failed it was clumpy and chalky and I put it up on a shelf. I couldn't find and good "recipes" or" how to" until your channel came about ! I was inspired by the guy in UK that charges 40000 pounds to do a21 step wash and wax for supercars and hand rubs wax in by hand and I think they said the wax was like £10,000 for 2 lb's of it. so any how I thought ......I can do that ....and have some of the best wax on earth eh ! so I got me some carnauba and at the time the only thing I could find was use turpentine.... so I failed ....but now you inspired me to go back at making my own wax ! thank you.
hey drew if your in the US theres less of a wax making scene as far as I know.. but try and get some oderless keresene or a heavy and light combo of a hydrocarbon solvent.. start from there mate. wax/oil/solvent
Awesome vid, great info, have one question, ? if CQUK is a great base and Skin is a great Top coat, can Skin be subbed for Gliss, ? Has anyone tried that ? or would the chemicals not be compatible to risk trying it ? And I guess the other issue is getting Skin seperate... Also see that CarPro now has Skin too, is this the same chemical copy or a spin off to compete with Gyeon type Skin ?...
:) a lot asked this..yer compatiblity risk is the thing mate you answered it yourself. you dont want to be going off piste and experienting accross brands really.. might work but consequnces are too big if it does not work.. best to use a system thats been developed and tested to give X results. great question though daryl thanks m8
Okay I have used 2 of 3 shown (C Quartz and Gtech.) I agree with the results. However, I also have a cure for the sticky after application for C Quartz. Funny thing is that you can apply Pinnacle Coating V3 (2nd) right after application of C Quartz (1st) and hand buff both. All was done on a 2 ft square area at time. The end result is that my plush microfiber towels or any microfiber towel will slide off via gravity. This is on my porsche front hood. So, what you also get are 2 different molecule reflective surfaces. And for some reason it now looks like the paint has depth. I tested this on 4 Porsche cars year 2000 to 2015 911's with identical results. You don't have to believe me, but you do have to test this for yourself. I got a wonderful depth and it stands apart from the rest.
Beautiful. Just beautiful, my friend. This is how you do a side by side review. I used the old MOHS alone in the past and experienced similar results. It isn't really very hydrophobic after a couple weeks. It seems to benefit a lot from a top coat and I don't really see a problem with that. They serve different purposes. The only thing I can't find much information on is how long after a base coat of CQuartz, for example, that one should wait to apply Gliss. I have some and have just been waiting to find a solid answer before offering it to a client. I've applied Syncro and you're supposed to wait an hour between base coats and 4 more hours before the Skin top coat (probably overkill, to be honest, but it is the oem recommendation). I assume it depends on which base coat you're using of course and how fast it cures and outgases etc., but it seems odd that Carpro doesn't mention anything about this that I can find. Syncro or more specifically Skin, by the way, is one of the slickest things I've ever encountered. It was somewhere between silk and Teflon with how soft and slippery it felt on the customer's car I applied it to. Definitely the most impressive consumer level coating I've seen to date.
Very informative video. I had Gyeon Mohs on my vehicle on top of Xpel Ultimate, but after having the vehicle rewrapped with Xpel Ultimate the ceramic coating now is Ceramic Pro. The vehicle looks totally different now, much glossier but also warmer looking, almost like a carnauba wax coat. Have you ever tested Ceramic Pro? or will you in the future? Thanx for your time
Impressive review!! It seems that many detailers in UK are moving from a UK product to a non UK product. But if you put Gtechniq Crystal Serum Light or Ultra with Exo V3 which is the top coat with 5 to 10 years of warranty the others will fail to catch up.
This begins to be a bit ridiculous, first a base coating then a top coating and on it a QD coating and everything should be maintained with a special shampoo. origin idea of coating is long since gone.
i think a lot of peeps feel this way. part of me does. but i think if your in to this whole detailing thing, then this package does kind of give you the performance to justify it.. perhaps not for everyone though
I agree that the maintenance schedules of ceramics is a little crazy. That being said, I’ve had Syncro on my truck for a year (20,000 mi) and only put cure on it one time. I wash it with Geon bathe weekly. I feel like it is working as well as the day I put it on with the only additional cost other than the kit of the bathe.
It has been that way for quite a long time, though (20+ years). I'm now almost 50, so when I was a kid my dad taught me how to use Turtle Wax (Wash car, apply, buff off, done). They switched to NuFinish (same wash, apply, buff off, done but with an easier buff off and longer lasting). When I was in my 30s, I got into sealants... Zaino was my favorite that I was still using just a year ago. Once you go away from a product w/ a light abrasive and cleaner properties, you now have to add claying and polishing. You had to mix it with a curing agent, shake, wait 15 minutes, apply, buff and repeat at least once... maybe more. Then you had different layers, special wash soaps, detailing spray, etc. It took me ages to get comfortable with the Zaino steps. I just applied my first Gyeon Synchro (MOHS + Skin + Cure)... well... actually I'm 3 coats into the MOHS. Skin and Cure coming soon, after a 24 hour wait. It's actually simpler than the Zaino system, IMHO. The only real difference is all of the wait times in the Gyeon system (not sure of the others). I've had to take the car out of use for several days to get the whole process done and cured to avoid water streaking.
Excellent review, I've been thinking of moving up to a ceramic coating. The thing that puts me off is i dont have a garage to put my car in and let it cure and steer clear of water spotting . Great channel, thanks for all the info you give out 👍
Love this video! I've watched it at least 10 times. Any chance you can do an updated 2021 version with some fireball dok do with typhoon top coat going against these guys? Fireball ceramic is my go to when the client is able to pay for a big hitter. What grade steel panels are you using?
I am a detailer and I'm still skeptical about ceramic Coatings but I am investigating more and more into them. And you have given us a great detailed video on this and breaking it down. So a big thanks to you for doing that! I do have a question that maybe you can answer, can you mix certain brand of top coat with another brand base coat? I guess in a sense creating your own package?
thanks buddy.. yes you can mix and match.. a few peeps have asked and Ive given some longer replies down below. but I wouldnt recomend mixing and matching generally. So people were thinking perhaps.. cquk looks really cool (it is really cool) as its way more repellent than MOHS. so perhaps thinking to combo skin with CQUK. The thing is I wouldnt personally go that way. because what CQUK has in terms of repellency I think it might be loosing in hardness (for example)... also CQUK could potentially reject skin and skin wont set properly on top of it. In terms of combo'ing I think you have the perfect combo in MOHS and SKIN. And CQUK is a pretty awesome standalone product , as CQUK seems to have good surface characertics already its a bit less worthwhile to have a top coat on it generally.. and gtechniq seeming to be very easy to apply and also cool in lots of way. so theres lots of things to think about if you combo things, but you will also loose support from the manufacturer if you dont use it as specified.. but I guess there could be some cool combos out there if your willing to take the risk. but have a good think about what the products are giving you before you combo as well.
Forensic Detailing Channel ok great and thank you. I did consciously think that it would not be a good idea 2 mix them but I wasn't for sure. Kind of like mixing different brand of synthetic oils for your car together. It may be okay but it doesn't make me feel completely comfortable in doing so.
I used the rising star ceramic coat on my truck and after 4 months it was holding up better than any of these were as far as no top coat goes. Its spread on wipe off. And cost less. I traded the truck after 4 months so idk if it's still holding up. I will say one thing about it. I was working with a utility knife and hit the paint. I just used a towel and rubbed the scratch and it was gone. So I ordered it again for the new truck but I'm waiting for it to stop snowing so I can put it on.
Imagine giving much time in knowing how different brand of ceramic coatings works. You should have published a book about this. :D Though I'd go with Carpro, loved carpro products.
Hi. Great video. I’ve recently had (professionally applied) Gtechniq’s ‘Lite (possibly not released when you did your comparison) with exel v0.4 topcoat to my Porsche GTS with outstanding results. I plan on sticking with the brand when it come to maintenance with the use of their C2v3 Liquid Crystal Spray you feature. Can we have an updated 2021 comparison? Lovin the channel with your no-nonsense, clear recommendations and great tips. Keep it up! 👍
Great review. So much work that must have gone into this is greatly appreciated. Gtechniq have got a new Crystal Serum Light which is a step up from C1 so maybe that would have done better??
I suppose we're all looking for the holy grail. A product that is easy to apply, lasts years and looks great. I've had silixia on my car since Oct and it's still going great and I wash it weekly. Put it on my mates brand new Giulia in July and he's not impressed. Keep up the good vids 👍
Brilliant video. Could you mix and match these products? I'm thinking CQUK base coat with Gyeon Skin as a top coat and CarPro Hydro2 as a maintenance layer, as it seems to be much slicker than Reload in my experience
I have the Wolfgang Uber CC on my truck. It's been on the truck for about 15 + months. I have not used any top coats, only gave it an Iron X treatment and several washes with Car Pro Reset this past summer. May be losing it's sheeting ability on the lower sections but it still retains it's gloss. Videos on my channel
Hey Forensic guy, can you explain to me why I found that when Gyeon Mohs drys it crusted the same as Gliss while UK3.0 dries like a crystal? I would think that Mohs and 3.0 would both crystallize near the same (crust around bottle threads) and Skin and Gliss would just dry like milk sort of? I’m thinking that 3.0 is the beat base and Skin is the best Top coat and the best spray on is Hydrosilex Recharge. That combo seems to be superior in the respective categories. I always put on 3 coats of the base coat even though I’m told by the maker that I can do 3 but they found no benefit from it and only recommend 2 coats of base. They also say that after the base and top coat that I don’t need to do Reload/Cure but I feel it is needed before the car hits the road.
MOHS is different chemically from any other ceramic Ive used. Its totally different to CQUK and C1. Skin and Gliss are different chemically as well. I dont think CQUK is as hard as mohs. whatever MOHS is, its like a dead rock hard, way more crystaline way more brital thing and it has virtually zero hydrophobic qualities. but get the skin on top and you have a very cool package i think. if you go offpiste and put gliss on CQUK will it bond properly to a hydrophobic coating.. Its like unknown.. so for me I want to use it the way its been developed to be used so I know Im going to get proven tested results kind of thing...
id like to john its just very time consuming. perhaps next time I could do the same set of tests, with less footage and editing but with different packages.
Csl is based off the c1 formulation all they do is add more solevants to give it more slickness and let the application Spread further. C1 with two layers of exo is still a 5 year coating as is csl and two layers of exo. I’m a accredited Detailer for them and this is directly from them
david sotelo I've heard of guys doing two layers of csl, I don't think it gives you huge improvements or longer life drastically. But, I'd stick with one layer of Csl and two layers of exo
Good video and nice to have an up to date opinion. Ive been using CQUK for years as a base on many cars and stuck with it based on how scratch repellent it is, Ive always topped this after every wash with a detailing spray with good beading - Sonax Turbo Detailer does it for me as I need something to remove watermarks and keep it looking pristine, Ive not waxed a car for 5 years (5 years this week in fact!) because of BSD and Turbo Detailer. The original C1 was king but Gtechniq pulled it with it being a bit unforgiving I think, but what a product.
Hi John, great video once again. I understand you need to draw a line somewhere, but I’m wondering why the Nanolex SI3D wasn’t included in the test. I’ve heard of great results with that one.
you could argue for a case for IGL, kamakazee, siramik, nanolex loads of others.. but I could really only compare 3. And perhaps its fair to say these are the 3 biggest offerings. If I had done nanolex, imagine how many "what no gtechniq" or no carpro responses there would be.
Agree with your thought about CQUK application. Very problematic to me as a newbie to ceramic coatings and i am living in a tropical climates area. The humidity and high temperature made it even worse. But once i mastered, it seems to be worth especially for being a standalone product. Btw, this video is very informative. I love how you made it scientifically way to test and compare. Not only opinion based review like many other test out there.
Great video. Jam packed with information. I have been on the fence with trying a ceramic coating. This really helped give me a perspective on the different options.
Also surprised GTec did not fair better. Its on my car but I also give it a wax over every couple of months as well. I was sold on CC,ings and they have their place for those with less time, but now of the opinion as a person that wants to maintain the car regularly, I will fully polish the car and remove the CC and stay with good wax only. I like the GTec Wheel Armour G1, excellent product and will keep that, but the paintwork will be “Back to Wax” which is also easy with the front end PPF. I will apply CC to other peoples car with less time as it would suit them more. Very good Video again Jon, for me it has reassured me in my decision a good wax will be better for me, easier, quicker and more satisfaction. Just my choice and honest opinion only.
cheers tats, theres so many cans of worms when you do this stuff that is the reason very few delve into it. my life would be a lot easier to just do seperate videos of all 3 packages and give you the basic info with a big broad smile on my face and tell you they are all amazing go buy them. I didnt create FDC to roll that way though. so we attempt to provide some comparisons, we try and do it in an unbias way and then peeps can watch and make of it what they will.. I dont know about like whats best.. but Ive got a new car coming this week and I want the syncro kit to go on it. rather than a sealant or a wax. righly or wrongly.. time will tell if it was the right thing to do.. but its a the sign of a cool product that I want to use it as well.
Thanks for a very comprehensive view on ceramic coatings. I purchased my vehicle two years ago and it had a coating as part of the final package, can I use these products ,base coat, top coat and maintenance or just Maint coat.?Thank you.
Great video Jon - getting pretty slick with the production of late👍 The thing that strikes me about these multi layer coating packages is the final performance will be down to the top layer. I’m not bothered about 2 year protection qualities as I like to try something different and have a play every few months, so just getting Gliss or Skin alone would do the job for me perfectly. Saying that, even adding Cure alone every couple of weeks after a wash would do the job. In the Spring I’m giving Can Coat a try and will maintain with Cure. After that may progress something more full blown. I know Gtechniq have newer offerings in their range with regards to the base coats, but it’s definitely time to replace C2v3. Been out for years! (As has C1)
cheers chris you a legend. I think if your gonna use a ceramic you really do want a good base coat high solids product to get the most out of it. they are what give the long term protection.. but some of these high solid have perhaps duller surface characterisitcs and these top coats can bring the product alive in terms of gloss and repellency. cquk does a good job though at doing all of this in a single package.
The thing about ceramic coatings is that only a detailing enthusiast will go the all the trouble of the the prep etc to apply one. You then have something that just needs to be maintained with washing and the occasional top up with one of the hydrophobic sprays. A lot of detailing enthusiasts would miss the higher maintenance required with traditional waxes and sealants. Also stick a full blown coating on and your committed to that for a couple of years. I probably put on 10-20 different LSP’s a year! Coatings best application is for someone who can’t be arsed to look after their car and get one applied by a pro. Then when it’s finally cleaned again in 6 months or something, it will still look decent.
Truly excellent video, thanks for putting it together. I have Gyeon Mohs (old version) and can coat on my car to test. With cure, I have found that diluting it 1:1 with distilled water helps eliminate the tendency to streak.
hey there, no but this may well come. next year soonish hopefully. in the meantime your in decent hands with C5, Dlux or Gyeon Rim. (c5 easiest to level)
Another great review and thank you for putting in the time, effort and money to do this. Having used both the Gyeon and Gtechniq products, I honestly think you made a mistake applying the EXO V3, I still expect to see some hydrophobic properties 12 months after application where I would be thinking about applying a top up coat. For the EXO to lose properties after 1 month just isn’t right. The base and top coat need to be applied within a few hours of each other to work correctly. Gtechniq CSL would have been a more comparable and fair test than the old C1. I do agree the Gyeon product is a better product though. Keep up the great work. James
Yo Jim, when I showed those water sheeting off the bonnet. the bonnet had not been wiped down with a detergent for about a week. just been sitting there and had been rained on etc.. If I clean down EXO it will come back to life a little bit. But Skin does not clog up even if you dont clean it. like I say I think EXO delivers on most of its claims.. but I really believe skin is light years ahead. just feels incredible, looks incredible and keeps going and going. To be fair its hot off the press , and g techniq will not doubt be bringing out more products or versions and things will swing around.
Maybe that’s why I’m seeing a difference, I always check the sheeting after I’ve given it a wash, I usually let the hose flood water over the bonnet to see if it’s still sheeting ok.
I had Exo v3 (two layers) applied by a professional in August. Its hydrophobicity is very close to day one. It has tailed off a bit on the back and lower sills. I'm very impressed with the performance. The car has had no more than 6 washes and was still beading and sheeting over Christmas and into January, with the car having gone at least 5 weeks without a wash. Gyeon Skin is newer and may well be a better product but the Exo doesn't seem to be performing as it should be in this test. Exo V2 was poor in my opinion but one of the latest version's best qualities is how resistant it is to clogging. I'll definitely look into the Gyeon and Carpro Gliss though when the car next needs coating.
John Greno nah US products are more in likelihood made in China. Look at all Apple products. They have a reputation for extreme bottom lining at the expense of their customers
Great video and thanks for being so methodical in your approach. Time for an updated version using CQUK V3.0 though ;) On a side note, I couldn't believe how good the resistance to water spotting was on CQUK alone! Amazing product and IMO, no need to add any other coat on top considering it performs so well on its own.
Another amazing video Jon! I have a few questions as I am looking to apply a ceramic coating in the near future. 1.) I picked up the carpro uk edition with the reload spray. Based on it's strong performance alone, do you personally think adding gloss is worth the time and money? 2. I can almost guarantee the answer is "not recommended" do you think a base coat of one brand could be combined with a top coat or finishing spray of another brand. I would say the manufacturers have specifically formulated their line of products to work best with themselves. 3.) Do you think multiple base coats can increase longevity? The majority of time and effort seems to be in prep. In your opinion would it be worth it to do 2 or 3 coats of a base coat? 4.) Related to my last question. I plan on using the cquarts on my wheels as well. If it's not worth doing multiple coats on the body work, would it maybe be worth it on wheels due to the agressive environment they encounter? 5.) I was wondering if you were planning on doing hardness testing on these products. Do you think that is important? 6.) My biggest question with ceramics is scratch resistance. How to correct when they do happen? And how to strip/remove a failing ceramic coat to apply a new one. Lastly, is the m135i what you drive now? I have an estoril blue m235i and I love it. I follow the forum "2 addicts" religiously. There is a lengthy, informative post in the detailing section about ceramics. I posted links to all of your videos relating to ceramics there because I think you do a great job. Are you in that forum by any chance? I'd love to hear and additional commentary you have on that post Cheers Jack
Great review Jon...im a master car detailer...i know you have reviewed 9h Mr Fix before....but after much research...speaking to chinese ceramic coat manufacturers...and a thorough understanding of manufacturing costs...ceramic coat only actually costs a few cents/ per 30ml...250+ x price mark up...the bottle and the packaging actually costs 5 x more than the ceramic coat liquid itself....would love to see an unbiased...un price/brand discriminatory test between 9h Mr Fix VS an expensive brand....ive done several cars now using 9h Mr Fix...seems super high gloss...durable long lasting...super hydrophobic...i havent yet been able to use or purchase Gyeon or Modesta...as im not a certified installer
Have you ever thought about doing a video on glass coating? Not sure if you have done one (carpro fly by 30/forte,gtechniq clear vision smart glass, gyeon view etc..) or a trim coating?
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Thx for the review. It was very useful! Can you please comment comparing Sonax ceramic coating with these 3, or Sonax is not in their league? Thank you! Regards from Macedonia
at around 14 minutes Im talking about top coats and said C1 a couple times but meant c2 :(
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Brilliant comparison 🙌🏼, can we please get a 2021 update 🥳🥳🥳
Scott H over at Perfection Correction (I think lol) is doing a bunch of product comparisons on his channel right now!
2021
This project was a huge undertaking that produced arguably the best non-biased comparison out there. JMO.
Possibly the best review of any product I have ever seen! Unbiased, measurable and considered! Thanks so much!
Brilliant review. Yes, folks are still finding this video. As an American, I can only say, you've done a proper job comparing these products. And sans the showboating, fanfare, and obnoxious music of the other channels. Keep up the great work! Everyone, consider a $1 /month patreon subscription to facilitate this gentleman to produce more videos.
I have watched thousands of videos on UA-cam. I have never left one comment ever. This is the best informational video I have ever seen. Perfect. No flaws at all. Everything I needed to know in one video. Great job
very kind words thank you royal wraps appreciate it.
Finally, someone doing a respectable high effort "scientific" review rather than all the YT amateur attempts that get far too many undeserved views for their 10 minute unexperienced "review". Great job that earned my Subscribe.
cheers for that and welcome to the channel. the science side is pretty basic on the channel.. the more I learn about this stuff the more I realise the less i know... but part of the fun in doing it is learning as well.
Greetings from Metro Atlanta GA, USA! This was an excellent comparison testing of three highly rated ceramic car coating/maintence products! Kudos to you for the hard work and thoughtful consideration of all three companies. You've given car owners around the world very good, unbiased, and helpful opinion on these products. Again, job very well done! Thank you!
Nice review, thank you for doing it. few notes i'd like to share, CQUK doesnt need to wait for wipe off, almost wipe on wipe off , Gliss is not ceramic base , its a Fluorine base made for topping to add water spot protection ,gloss, slickness and hydrophobic, gloss measuring you must test in exact spot each time otherwise you wont get same reading , the painted surface is not flat completely to get exact measures. all in all very good video.
great stuff guys. your right about the gloss meter. you cant really use it on non flat car panels with any accuracy, you can totally change the reading with just a tiny lean of the tool. needs to sit flat. even on flat test panels you can create a large variance in the readings from downward pressure. so for me the most important thing was to try and take a hell of a lot of readings. sometimes 60 per test. and then use averages. so I was kind of obtaining overall average before a test overall average after it. One other thing is you cannot compare gloss readings on different calibrations sets either. so comparisons were only made within each test set. so many other limitations really.
One thing that came out of this testing that was consistent over 2 different panels CQUK after a 1 week cure has a very high level of gloss. Had a lot going for it as a single coating that does everything well..
I know you guys are pushing the boundaries and I think all 3 companies are doing a great job and the products all have their little advantages and disadvantages.
Forensic Detailing Channel thank you, you doing great job as well, we will show new cquk update soon after 6 years we had same formula. Hope you can test that too.
looking forward to it guys, would be fantastic to do a review of it for the channel
Approximately when do you think the version 2 of cquk will be in stores? Summer 2018?
CarPro You mean once applies you dont need to buff it off?
Hi Jon as usual a super video, I have to thank you for all the hundreds of hours of work you've put in and given it to people like me. I looked into patreon to support you but at the moment even the minimum is more than we can give, but in the future I will support you. Keep up the great work I hope that eventually you make a good living from it, you fully deserve it.
thanks andrew honestly mate guys like you are the reason I do this. theres so many nice people out there.
@@ForensicDetailing Thanks Jon but your the nicest of all and thousands of your people would agree, your often mentioned on Detailing World and always saying how good and impartial you are, always before I buy anything detailing I look for one of your videos even the wife joins in sometimes, we often literally laugh so hard we cry, I suffer high blood pressure and you my friend help bring it down, double score detailing and better health can't be bad hey. The laughing bit is me, I have a REALLY wild imagination and for instance when you said on the drying towel test use it as a matador, my wild went mad seeing a red towel and the car chasing it as we tried to dry it, I tell the wife and we're laughing like you'd never believe.
But on another note your methods and testing is truly awesome how to get to work out what to do and make the test valid is astounding. Your brain must never stop working things out.
Before I found you like a microfiber cloth was just that, heck did I think for a moment so much work went into developing every detailing product.
And as much as they develop you sort of undeveloped if I'm getting that right? I'm trying to say you take it back from finished then backwards to where it began, even to the origin of the materials.
Would love to see a new version of this with all the updated products and formulas
dude your testing methodology is really awesome
From a Guy with 5 cars this was an eye-opener. the word "Ceramic" was mentioned to me yesterday on the Golf Course so I looked it up and found your video. Brilliant Video !! From a guy like me who cleans cars almost every day. One Hell of a lot of Preparation and cleaning though before you can apply, but WHAT A PRODUCT !! I am 70 yoa. and never heard of it. So its the 7 "P's" Prior Planning & Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance. I can Manage that especially on my 5.3Ltr. Twin Turbo, Quad. Exhaust, 8 cylinder, Supercharged, XKR Jaguar Convertible with Red Metallic Paint & Cream Leather. Keep up the Good Work with your Video's. Kind Regards, Keith
I commend you for doing the hard work of comparing these. My cars coated with gtechniq (pro grade) and its been preforming great for a year. These top coats are by far the best investment people put in their car yet it seems no one has compared them up until now. I hope your video reaches many.
thanks ralph I appreciate you taking the time to say that.
Probably the best comparison/review of top-tier ceramic coatings I've seen. Looking forward to the review of lesser known ones, like MR-FIX 9H and alike, which I think have seen in the background in your previous video.
Yes, very interested to watch a so complete comparison with cheap ceramic coatings like the 9H.MrFix :-)
He’s already looked at the cheap ceramic coats and has stated they aren’t very good.
This is the most helpful, and articulate Video I have found on Ceramic coatings across the entire internet. I have learned so much more and understand Ceramic coatings greater. Very well done good sir!
A very well presented & non biased test & you’ve taken a lot of time & effort doing this test. Very easy for people to make their own mind up as to which product to buy. Great video
thanks Si
I applied Eco V3, in two layers, on my Lexus in Sept/Oct 2017. The coating made it through a road salt covered Canadian winter brilliantly. For only being washed twice in that time period of 6-7 months, the coating performing very well, with water beading like it was freshly applied. Also excellent gloss and very easy application. I am very happy with Eco V3. The previous winter, I tried the CarPro CQuartz (non UK version) and application was very difficult in an uncontrolled environment and the product failed to survive a Canadian winter. Thumbs up to ExoV3! Unfortunately I have traded the Lexus in so I will now have to prep and coat the replacement GLK and perhaps try the GEON line!
Thanks for the great videos!
I purchased Crystal Serum Light rather than C1, as it is their highest end consumer coating and is only $10 on average more than C1, while still being the same price or cheaper than Mohs and CQUK. It holds up better and you really don't need EXO as a topper for it if you use C2V3 spray. It has been very good over the 6 months I have used it, only once applying the C2V3 spray topper on it. This is from late summer, through fall with regular washes with Gtechniq GWash and then less regular washing in winter on salty roads. Car is driven daily, on all road conditions (including salt and snow) and not garaged. It has done well, and should last the longest of any of the coatings on the market according to my research. It was also the cheapest option for me in the USA.
That said, I would probably go with Mohs and Skin next time around, because it has the ultimate in water relepelancy, but I question durability.
Yeah maybe I'm wrong but I was under the impression c1 was old news, surprised to see him review that instead of csl.
Any issues with water spotting? I am thinking of doing CSL and exov3. Is he reviewing exov3?
Great video, thanks for taking the time to do the research! It would be interesting to see a side by side of how the US and UK version of CQuartz compare. Have you tried mixing and matching different base and top coats with different maintenance sprays? I'm curious if you could create a hybrid system that beats the individual sets.
Jon, thanks for putting in so much effort in this and all your videos. You provide astonishing attention to detail and unbiased testing, whilst delivering your content in plain English.
Great info! I've used CQuk on my Black 2016 Mustang. It was an incredible chore to buff it off after application, with the resistance and stickiness nearly yanking the microfiber out of my hands. It also had incredible high spots, likely due to the difficulty wiping it off. I adored the shine, but it only seemed to last about 3 months in the Chicago spring before needing to spring for more Reload and kept pumping. After one panel, I needed to dilute it to keep it from streaking over the black paint. I can tell you that CQuk did not fair well in the Chicago winter, although not sure if thats a fair judgement of the product - nothing fairs well in the Chicago winter. I'm planning on picking up the Gyeon kit and applying that once the sun finally comes back. Thanks for helping me along to that choice!
4 years ago so a long shot. Did you ever try the gyeon kit? If so, how did it survive?
@@ukswiftersThe lol, no. I sold the car and moved on. Black on a year round car in the Midwest is a futile endeavor. Since then, I've moved on from full coatings to using ceramic detailing sprays. The winters are too brutal and I've not seen a single coating last at all. And, they've come a long, long way. Good shine, protects decently for about a month and very easy to apply/reapply. Great bang for buck and time.
Just became a Patreon supporter for you as you put tons of work into your videos! Last September I ordered CarPro Cquartz and was told it's a bit thicker and will last longer than the UK version, but needs to be at least 68 degrees so I will need to wait until March/April to apply. I am in the Chicago USA and can't wait to use it. Wished you had used the CarPro Cquartz in your testing. Thank you Christopher
christopher thanks so much mate. welcome aboard as a patreon, support like that means a hell of a lot to me. thank you so much.
I think just being in the UK it was perhaps more relevent to me, but hopefully we can take a look at cquartz as well at some point.
There are no great options in my country but can I go with meguiars m688??
Hey thanks for making this channel ! about 8 years ago I purchased 3lbs of pure carnauba wax I tried to make my own and failed it was clumpy and chalky and I put it up on a shelf. I couldn't find and good "recipes" or" how to" until your channel came about ! I was inspired by the guy in UK that charges 40000 pounds to do a21 step wash and wax for supercars and hand rubs wax in by hand and I think they said the wax was like £10,000 for 2 lb's of it. so any how I thought ......I can do that ....and have some of the best wax on earth eh ! so I got me some carnauba and at the time the only thing I could find was use turpentine.... so I failed ....but now you inspired me to go back at making my own wax ! thank you.
hey drew if your in the US theres less of a wax making scene as far as I know.. but try and get some oderless keresene or a heavy and light combo of a hydrocarbon solvent.. start from there mate. wax/oil/solvent
Awesome vid, great info, have one question, ? if CQUK is a great base and Skin is a great Top coat, can Skin be subbed for Gliss, ? Has anyone tried that ? or would the chemicals not be compatible to risk trying it ? And I guess the other issue is getting Skin seperate... Also see that CarPro now has Skin too, is this the same chemical copy or a spin off to compete with Gyeon type Skin ?...
:) a lot asked this..yer compatiblity risk is the thing mate you answered it yourself. you dont want to be going off piste and experienting accross brands really.. might work but consequnces are too big if it does not work.. best to use a system thats been developed and tested to give X results. great question though daryl thanks m8
Thank you for taking the time to do such a detailed experiment.. Is it advisable to mix and match the products? Cquartz base with Skin top coat?
I wonder this swell, what would happen if you do this?
By far one of the best reviews I have seen with clear unbiased recommendation. Thanks for demystifying what I agree from research being the best!
thanks for the kind words raj
Okay I have used 2 of 3 shown (C Quartz and Gtech.) I agree with the results. However, I also have a cure for the sticky after application for C Quartz. Funny thing is that you can apply Pinnacle Coating V3 (2nd) right after application of C Quartz (1st) and hand buff both. All was done on a 2 ft square area at time. The end result is that my plush microfiber towels or any microfiber towel will slide off via gravity. This is on my porsche front hood. So, what you also get are 2 different molecule reflective surfaces. And for some reason it now looks like the paint has depth. I tested this on 4 Porsche cars year 2000 to 2015 911's with identical results. You don't have to believe me, but you do have to test this for yourself. I got a wonderful depth and it stands apart from the rest.
Absolutely fantastic video!!!!! I could not decide which coating to use until I watched it Subscribed!
I applied Syncro a small 4 weeks ago and its realy nice coating pakkage. So easy to aply and remove and the looks and water behavior are insane.
This has to be the best video on testing and results and comparisons. Visuals demonstrations. Definitely subd
Beautiful. Just beautiful, my friend. This is how you do a side by side review.
I used the old MOHS alone in the past and experienced similar results. It isn't really very hydrophobic after a couple weeks. It seems to benefit a lot from a top coat and I don't really see a problem with that. They serve different purposes.
The only thing I can't find much information on is how long after a base coat of CQuartz, for example, that one should wait to apply Gliss. I have some and have just been waiting to find a solid answer before offering it to a client. I've applied Syncro and you're supposed to wait an hour between base coats and 4 more hours before the Skin top coat (probably overkill, to be honest, but it is the oem recommendation). I assume it depends on which base coat you're using of course and how fast it cures and outgases etc., but it seems odd that Carpro doesn't mention anything about this that I can find.
Syncro or more specifically Skin, by the way, is one of the slickest things I've ever encountered. It was somewhere between silk and Teflon with how soft and slippery it felt on the customer's car I applied it to. Definitely the most impressive consumer level coating I've seen to date.
4 hours after base coat goes down you can apply gliss i think mate. totally agree about slickness of skin.. its teflon smooth yer
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That was my assumption. I feel more confident knowing that 4 hours seems to be the consensus. Thanks!
Very informative video. I had Gyeon Mohs on my vehicle on top of Xpel Ultimate, but after having the vehicle rewrapped with Xpel Ultimate the ceramic coating now is Ceramic Pro. The vehicle looks totally different now, much glossier but also warmer looking, almost like a carnauba wax coat. Have you ever tested Ceramic Pro? or will you in the future? Thanx for your time
Impressive review!! It seems that many detailers in UK are moving from a UK product to a non UK product. But if you put Gtechniq Crystal Serum Light or Ultra with Exo V3 which is the top coat with 5 to 10 years of warranty the others will fail to catch up.
White Pearl What kind of warranty that is? Maybe you need pay once a year to maintain coat and warranty
Probably the best review i have ever watched!
very kind words thank you
This begins to be a bit ridiculous, first a base coating then a top coating and on it a QD coating and everything should be maintained with a special shampoo.
origin idea of coating is long since gone.
i think a lot of peeps feel this way. part of me does. but i think if your in to this whole detailing thing, then this package does kind of give you the performance to justify it.. perhaps not for everyone though
Now it seems we need to spend more money to protect the ceramic coating that is protecting the paint!
I agree that the maintenance schedules of ceramics is a little crazy. That being said, I’ve had Syncro on my truck for a year (20,000 mi) and only put cure on it one time. I wash it with Geon bathe weekly. I feel like it is working as well as the day I put it on with the only additional cost other than the kit of the bathe.
It has been that way for quite a long time, though (20+ years). I'm now almost 50, so when I was a kid my dad taught me how to use Turtle Wax (Wash car, apply, buff off, done). They switched to NuFinish (same wash, apply, buff off, done but with an easier buff off and longer lasting). When I was in my 30s, I got into sealants... Zaino was my favorite that I was still using just a year ago. Once you go away from a product w/ a light abrasive and cleaner properties, you now have to add claying and polishing. You had to mix it with a curing agent, shake, wait 15 minutes, apply, buff and repeat at least once... maybe more. Then you had different layers, special wash soaps, detailing spray, etc. It took me ages to get comfortable with the Zaino steps. I just applied my first Gyeon Synchro (MOHS + Skin + Cure)... well... actually I'm 3 coats into the MOHS. Skin and Cure coming soon, after a 24 hour wait. It's actually simpler than the Zaino system, IMHO. The only real difference is all of the wait times in the Gyeon system (not sure of the others). I've had to take the car out of use for several days to get the whole process done and cured to avoid water streaking.
It's great you are making detailing more quantitative as I find subjectivity can get in the way of progress
Excellent review, I've been thinking of moving up to a ceramic coating. The thing that puts me off is i dont have a garage to put my car in and let it cure and steer clear of water spotting . Great channel, thanks for all the info you give out 👍
Wow - Your video was just what I was looking for, a very objective and scientific testing. Thank you!
What an effort. Excellent comparison. Got GTECHNIQ C1 coated here in Pakistan.
Thank you umer greetings to you and the wonderful people of pakistan
Love this video! I've watched it at least 10 times. Any chance you can do an updated 2021 version with some fireball dok do with typhoon top coat going against these guys? Fireball ceramic is my go to when the client is able to pay for a big hitter. What grade steel panels are you using?
Excellent video btw. Very detailed well presented.
Another good forensic video, i love how you structure the test and the criteria. Very informative, love your productions.
Cquartz UK 3.0 is a beast! I have had it last over 3 years easily. I have applied it a lot and it never had but amazing results.
I think this is your best review. Thanks for posting it ... very concise.
Very methodical work. Well done.
Thank you mate for your honesty and all those tests you did for us.
I am a detailer and I'm still skeptical about ceramic Coatings but I am investigating more and more into them. And you have given us a great detailed video on this and breaking it down. So a big thanks to you for doing that! I do have a question that maybe you can answer, can you mix certain brand of top coat with another brand base coat? I guess in a sense creating your own package?
thanks buddy.. yes you can mix and match.. a few peeps have asked and Ive given some longer replies down below. but I wouldnt recomend mixing and matching generally.
So people were thinking perhaps.. cquk looks really cool (it is really cool) as its way more repellent than MOHS. so perhaps thinking to combo skin with CQUK. The thing is I wouldnt personally go that way. because what CQUK has in terms of repellency I think it might be loosing in hardness (for example)... also CQUK could potentially reject skin and skin wont set properly on top of it. In terms of combo'ing I think you have the perfect combo in MOHS and SKIN. And CQUK is a pretty awesome standalone product , as CQUK seems to have good surface characertics already its a bit less worthwhile to have a top coat on it generally.. and gtechniq seeming to be very easy to apply and also cool in lots of way.
so theres lots of things to think about if you combo things, but you will also loose support from the manufacturer if you dont use it as specified.. but I guess there could be some cool combos out there if your willing to take the risk. but have a good think about what the products are giving you before you combo as well.
Forensic Detailing Channel ok great and thank you. I did consciously think that it would not be a good idea 2 mix them but I wasn't for sure. Kind of like mixing different brand of synthetic oils for your car together. It may be okay but it doesn't make me feel completely comfortable in doing so.
Would you use skin on top of Cquartz UK3.0?
Lol that is what I want to do. Rain drops would hover over the paint and never touch it. 😂😂
Ammo skin?
I used the rising star ceramic coat on my truck and after 4 months it was holding up better than any of these were as far as no top coat goes. Its spread on wipe off. And cost less. I traded the truck after 4 months so idk if it's still holding up. I will say one thing about it. I was working with a utility knife and hit the paint. I just used a towel and rubbed the scratch and it was gone. So I ordered it again for the new truck but I'm waiting for it to stop snowing so I can put it on.
Imagine giving much time in knowing how different brand of ceramic coatings works. You should have published a book about this. :D Though I'd go with Carpro, loved carpro products.
great video, going to amazon myself a geon syncro kit now that my paint is polished.
C2v3 is for me is outstanding £6 for 100mil an it looks an feels great after application thanks for another great video
Hi.
Great video.
I’ve recently had (professionally applied) Gtechniq’s ‘Lite (possibly not released when you did your comparison) with exel v0.4 topcoat to my Porsche GTS with outstanding results. I plan on sticking with the brand when it come to maintenance with the use of their C2v3 Liquid Crystal Spray you feature. Can we have an updated 2021 comparison?
Lovin the channel with your no-nonsense, clear recommendations and great tips. Keep it up! 👍
Man! This is a FANTASTIC video! Great work
Thanks for watching
Great video. These types of ceramic products were first to market. How do the current spray ceramic products compare?
Wow, it's like you read my mind. I was just looking for which ceramic coat I should go for.
Great review. So much work that must have gone into this is greatly appreciated. Gtechniq have got a new Crystal Serum Light which is a step up from C1 so maybe that would have done better??
quite possibly, although I still think C1 has a lot going for it as a good all around base coat. will no doubt try CSL one day as well.
I suppose we're all looking for the holy grail. A product that is easy to apply, lasts years and looks great. I've had silixia on my car since Oct and it's still going great and I wash it weekly. Put it on my mates brand new Giulia in July and he's not impressed. Keep up the good vids 👍
Brilliant video.
Could you mix and match these products? I'm thinking CQUK base coat with Gyeon Skin as a top coat and CarPro Hydro2 as a maintenance layer, as it seems to be much slicker than Reload in my experience
can you do an update on this video if the products have changed?
One of your best Videos John ! Any new and improved products in the Ceramic coat world?????
Im not sure mate, theres so many coatings on the market now, its hard to know.
Fantastic review! Thank you taking the time to put this together!!!
I have the Wolfgang Uber CC on my truck. It's been on the truck for about 15 + months. I have not used any top coats, only gave it an Iron X treatment and several washes with Car Pro Reset this past summer. May be losing it's sheeting ability on the lower sections but it still retains it's gloss. Videos on my channel
Pronounced Mowz as in Mohs’ scale of hardness. Love the channel btw.
Hey Forensic guy, can you explain to me why I found that when Gyeon Mohs drys it crusted the same as Gliss while UK3.0 dries like a crystal? I would think that Mohs and 3.0 would both crystallize near the same (crust around bottle threads) and Skin and Gliss would just dry like milk sort of? I’m thinking that 3.0 is the beat base and Skin is the best Top coat and the best spray on is Hydrosilex Recharge. That combo seems to be superior in the respective categories. I always put on 3 coats of the base coat even though I’m told by the maker that I can do 3 but they found no benefit from it and only recommend 2 coats of base. They also say that after the base and top coat that I don’t need to do Reload/Cure but I feel it is needed before the car hits the road.
MOHS is different chemically from any other ceramic Ive used. Its totally different to CQUK and C1. Skin and Gliss are different chemically as well. I dont think CQUK is as hard as mohs. whatever MOHS is, its like a dead rock hard, way more crystaline way more brital thing and it has virtually zero hydrophobic qualities. but get the skin on top and you have a very cool package i think. if you go offpiste and put gliss on CQUK will it bond properly to a hydrophobic coating.. Its like unknown.. so for me I want to use it the way its been developed to be used so I know Im going to get proven tested results kind of thing...
This is an excellent video but would you do a comparison with Gtechniq Crystal serum light
id like to john its just very time consuming. perhaps next time I could do the same set of tests, with less footage and editing but with different packages.
Csl is based off the c1 formulation all they do is add more solevants to give it more slickness and let the application Spread further. C1 with two layers of exo is still a 5 year coating as is csl and two layers of exo. I’m a accredited Detailer for them and this is directly from them
I’d like to see the crystal serum 9 years tested against the other products. Thanks for all your efforts great video
@@riseandshinedetailing9658 any sense if doing two coats of crystal serum light?
david sotelo I've heard of guys doing two layers of csl, I don't think it gives you huge improvements or longer life drastically. But, I'd stick with one layer of Csl and two layers of exo
surprised by exo loosing its beading
Good video and nice to have an up to date opinion. Ive been using CQUK for years as a base on many cars and stuck with it based on how scratch repellent it is, Ive always topped this after every wash with a detailing spray with good beading - Sonax Turbo Detailer does it for me as I need something to remove watermarks and keep it looking pristine, Ive not waxed a car for 5 years (5 years this week in fact!) because of BSD and Turbo Detailer. The original C1 was king but Gtechniq pulled it with it being a bit unforgiving I think, but what a product.
Hi John, great video once again. I understand you need to draw a line somewhere, but I’m wondering why the Nanolex SI3D wasn’t included in the test. I’ve heard of great results with that one.
you could argue for a case for IGL, kamakazee, siramik, nanolex loads of others.. but I could really only compare 3. And perhaps its fair to say these are the 3 biggest offerings. If I had done nanolex, imagine how many "what no gtechniq" or no carpro responses there would be.
Agree with your thought about CQUK application.
Very problematic to me as a newbie to ceramic coatings and i am living in a tropical climates area. The humidity and high temperature made it even worse. But once i mastered, it seems to be worth especially for being a standalone product.
Btw, this video is very informative. I love how you made it scientifically way to test and compare. Not only opinion based review like many other test out there.
thanks buddy
Great video. Jam packed with information. I have been on the fence with trying a ceramic coating. This really helped give me a perspective on the different options.
Best test or comperison of ceramic coatings until today. + Thumbs up for your effort
really kind thank you
Safe to say that ceramic pro is dead? I just bought a set and thinking if i should ditch it for gyeon
not sure mate. I just rule certain companies or products out generally in life by the way they advertise. hard to explain without writing an essay..
You should do an updated video for ceramics.
Great video my friend!
Cheers ... keep them coming!
What about a glass coat comparison video?!
thanks good idea mate, and merry xmas. will think about a glass comparison at some point for sure
Also surprised GTec did not fair better. Its on my car but I also give it a wax over every couple of months as well.
I was sold on CC,ings and they have their place for those with less time, but now of the opinion as a person that wants to maintain the car regularly, I will fully polish the car and remove the CC and stay with good wax only.
I like the GTec Wheel Armour G1, excellent product and will keep that, but the paintwork will be “Back to Wax” which is also easy with the front end PPF.
I will apply CC to other peoples car with less time as it would suit them more.
Very good Video again Jon, for me it has reassured me in my decision a good wax will be better for me, easier, quicker and more satisfaction. Just my choice and honest opinion only.
cheers tats, theres so many cans of worms when you do this stuff that is the reason very few delve into it. my life would be a lot easier to just do seperate videos of all 3 packages and give you the basic info with a big broad smile on my face and tell you they are all amazing go buy them. I didnt create FDC to roll that way though. so we attempt to provide some comparisons, we try and do it in an unbias way and then peeps can watch and make of it what they will..
I dont know about like whats best.. but Ive got a new car coming this week and I want the syncro kit to go on it. rather than a sealant or a wax. righly or wrongly.. time will tell if it was the right thing to do.. but its a the sign of a cool product that I want to use it as well.
Thanks for a very comprehensive view on ceramic coatings. I purchased my vehicle two years ago and it had a coating as part of the final package, can I use these products ,base coat, top coat and maintenance or just Maint coat.?Thank you.
great vid! is ceramic coating add gloss more than wax or sealants?
Thanks.
i have started you gyeon in the last few weeks . Mohs is very easy to use ,skin needs a thin layer . great video
Excellent review jon.you can see the time and effort that you have put in to do this video.fantastic work!!!!.
Great video Jon - getting pretty slick with the production of late👍 The thing that strikes me about these multi layer coating packages is the final performance will be down to the top layer. I’m not bothered about 2 year protection qualities as I like to try something different and have a play every few months, so just getting Gliss or Skin alone would do the job for me perfectly. Saying that, even adding Cure alone every couple of weeks after a wash would do the job. In the Spring I’m giving Can Coat a try and will maintain with Cure. After that may progress something more full blown. I know Gtechniq have newer offerings in their range with regards to the base coats, but it’s definitely time to replace C2v3. Been out for years! (As has C1)
cheers chris you a legend. I think if your gonna use a ceramic you really do want a good base coat high solids product to get the most out of it. they are what give the long term protection.. but some of these high solid have perhaps duller surface characterisitcs and these top coats can bring the product alive in terms of gloss and repellency. cquk does a good job though at doing all of this in a single package.
The thing about ceramic coatings is that only a detailing enthusiast will go the all the trouble of the the prep etc to apply one. You then have something that just needs to be maintained with washing and the occasional top up with one of the hydrophobic sprays. A lot of detailing enthusiasts would miss the higher maintenance required with traditional waxes and sealants. Also stick a full blown coating on and your committed to that for a couple of years. I probably put on 10-20 different LSP’s a year! Coatings best application is for someone who can’t be arsed to look after their car and get one applied by a pro. Then when it’s finally cleaned again in 6 months or something, it will still look decent.
Truly excellent video, thanks for putting it together. I have Gyeon Mohs (old version) and can coat on my car to test. With cure, I have found that diluting it 1:1 with distilled water helps eliminate the tendency to streak.
Good video! Do you have a video for the best wheel coatings?
hey there, no but this may well come. next year soonish hopefully. in the meantime your in decent hands with C5, Dlux or Gyeon Rim. (c5 easiest to level)
Another great review and thank you for putting in the time, effort and money to do this.
Having used both the Gyeon and Gtechniq products, I honestly think you made a mistake applying the EXO V3, I still expect to see some hydrophobic properties 12 months after application where I would be thinking about applying a top up coat. For the EXO to lose properties after 1 month just isn’t right. The base and top coat need to be applied within a few hours of each other to work correctly. Gtechniq CSL would have been a more comparable and fair test than the old C1.
I do agree the Gyeon product is a better product though. Keep up the great work. James
Yo Jim, when I showed those water sheeting off the bonnet. the bonnet had not been wiped down with a detergent for about a week. just been sitting there and had been rained on etc.. If I clean down EXO it will come back to life a little bit. But Skin does not clog up even if you dont clean it. like I say I think EXO delivers on most of its claims.. but I really believe skin is light years ahead. just feels incredible, looks incredible and keeps going and going. To be fair its hot off the press , and g techniq will not doubt be bringing out more products or versions and things will swing around.
Maybe that’s why I’m seeing a difference, I always check the sheeting after I’ve given it a wash, I usually let the hose flood water over the bonnet to see if it’s still sheeting ok.
I had Exo v3 (two layers) applied by a professional in August. Its hydrophobicity is very close to day one. It has tailed off a bit on the back and lower sills. I'm very impressed with the performance.
The car has had no more than 6 washes and was still beading and sheeting over Christmas and into January, with the car having gone at least 5 weeks without a wash. Gyeon Skin is newer and may well be a better product but the Exo doesn't seem to be performing as it should be in this test. Exo V2 was poor in my opinion but one of the latest version's best qualities is how resistant it is to clogging.
I'll definitely look into the Gyeon and Carpro Gliss though when the car next needs coating.
the best and the most thorough products reviews on youtube for sure. Have you heard about Kamikaze coatings?
You are doing God's work
would like to see the ease of application and durability of tac systems quartz shine/magic etc and see how it compares to other major brands
KILLER KILLER KILLER VIDEO , once again awesome in depth review!!!
I sure wish you could test some US products. You always do such a great job of explaining and reviewing products. I enjoy your videos, Thank you!
John Greno nah US products are more in likelihood made in China. Look at all Apple products. They have a reputation for extreme bottom lining at the expense of their customers
Amazing amount of work put into this video and first I've ever seen on your channel. Keep up the amazing work
You're investing serious money into this channel! You also take the time to prepare your subjects and edit the videos, so l'm following your content.
Great video and thanks for being so methodical in your approach. Time for an updated version using CQUK V3.0 though ;)
On a side note, I couldn't believe how good the resistance to water spotting was on CQUK alone! Amazing product and IMO, no need to add any other coat on top considering it performs so well on its own.
Another amazing video Jon! I have a few questions as I am looking to apply a ceramic coating in the near future.
1.) I picked up the carpro uk edition with the reload spray. Based on it's strong performance alone, do you personally think adding gloss is worth the time and money?
2. I can almost guarantee the answer is "not recommended" do you think a base coat of one brand could be combined with a top coat or finishing spray of another brand. I would say the manufacturers have specifically formulated their line of products to work best with themselves.
3.) Do you think multiple base coats can increase longevity? The majority of time and effort seems to be in prep. In your opinion would it be worth it to do 2 or 3 coats of a base coat?
4.) Related to my last question. I plan on using the cquarts on my wheels as well. If it's not worth doing multiple coats on the body work, would it maybe be worth it on wheels due to the agressive environment they encounter?
5.) I was wondering if you were planning on doing hardness testing on these products. Do you think that is important?
6.) My biggest question with ceramics is scratch resistance. How to correct when they do happen? And how to strip/remove a failing ceramic coat to apply a new one.
Lastly, is the m135i what you drive now? I have an estoril blue m235i and I love it. I follow the forum "2 addicts" religiously. There is a lengthy, informative post in the detailing section about ceramics. I posted links to all of your videos relating to ceramics there because I think you do a great job.
Are you in that forum by any chance? I'd love to hear and additional commentary you have on that post
Cheers
Jack
Great review Jon...im a master car detailer...i know you have reviewed 9h Mr Fix before....but after much research...speaking to chinese ceramic coat manufacturers...and a thorough understanding of manufacturing costs...ceramic coat only actually costs a few cents/ per 30ml...250+ x price mark up...the bottle and the packaging actually costs 5 x more than the ceramic coat liquid itself....would love to see an unbiased...un price/brand discriminatory test between 9h Mr Fix VS an expensive brand....ive done several cars now using 9h Mr Fix...seems super high gloss...durable long lasting...super hydrophobic...i havent yet been able to use or purchase Gyeon or Modesta...as im not a certified installer
Have you ever thought about doing a video on glass coating? Not sure if you have done one (carpro fly by 30/forte,gtechniq clear vision smart glass, gyeon view etc..) or a trim coating?
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Thx for the review. It was very useful! Can you please comment comparing Sonax ceramic coating with these 3, or Sonax is not in their league?
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I'm using Pearl Nano 5 year coating I'm gonna try the Car pro and the Gyeon to compare. I would like to try the SKIN as a top coat as well. thanks