@@fishels3895 the first gen s550 are the best looking by far. Wider body, sits lower, better taillights, front ends are debatable. But looks aside driving them is no competition. The s550 outclasses previous mustangs in every way. It actually handles like a sports car.
It will do the straight line 100 times better than the s550. Put a gen2 coyote in a S197 and you have the perfect combo to go low 7s with a blower fairly easy compared to ho much more its gonna take the s550 to hit low 7s.
S197 will always look more aggressive and meaner in my opinion. The 15+ still hasn’t grown on me yet. I still like them but just not as much as the 13/14
I respect your opinion but this wasn't much of a one vs one video... this is more of a "you should get this"... there wasn't much comparison. What about the fact that the S197 is lighter, and have reported better times in both 1/4 and 1/2 mile? I will admit that the interiors are better, but thats with every new generation of car... so that's to be expected.
The S197 is only lighter by 40-80 pounds depending on which package you get from the S550. Explain to me what difference 80lbs heavier does???? These cars are not too far from each other when it comes to performance, that said, It's easy for a broken in S197 to beat a 0 mile S550. But once that S550 has broken in, say bye bye, S197 does not have a chance. But it all comes down to what mods you have. Just CAI can make the difference in both cars. Type in the search S197 vs S550, 80% of the videos you see the S550 smokes S197. Before my S550, I had 2013 S197, and believe me, S550 is better all around. It really just comes down to your personal like in the body style. And that is a personal opinion, not a fact.
Kristofer Pribble Better yet, here you go bro. blog.caranddriver.com/dont-worry-yall-2015-mustang-curb-weights-revealed-gains-are-minimal/ Keep buying into that weight bullshit that everybody was talking about at the beginning of 2015. Keep listening to the haters.
Kristofer Pribble Hell, all you have to do is search in google 2015 mustang gt weight and in a different tab search the same for 2014 mustang gt weight and bang you get the TRUE facts. Smh!!! Hope this info helps you bro!
The point is that you "have to get used to" the S550 front end, the S197s always looked good. I really hope whoever designed the new Mustang front end is off of the design team.
I'm a Hellcat guy and find these videos fascinating! Great info & summaries.🤔 Amazing how much strength is in the stock Mustang engine architecture and driveline.😮 Plus...so refreshing to see an adult put out this information. Nice!
S197 was a work of love. Since the introduction of the concept car, later the 2005, rebirth of the gt500, the redesign in 2010, the new engine in 2011, all the while maintaining the retro look and feel. The S550 is a nice sportscar it just doesnt look or feel like a mustang, the same way anything after 1970 didnt, until the 2005-2014. The GT350 looked great, they just messed up the front end in the v6 and L4 and GT. The 2018 is a significant improvement in the looks department. I was tempted by the 2018 and I will buy a 2019 bullit next year, but I think 2005 to 2014 will age much, much better than the newer ones.
mihkal Have you driven a regular GT350? That's a mean sounding animal. I'd trade that 2011 Shelby for a 18 or 19 GT500 when that comes out but that's just me!
I actually have a friend who has one. It just haven't gotten around to driving it lol it does sounds amazing though. As far as the 18-19 Shelby goes I'm sure they'll be monsters but I rather mod my 11 to my taste lol too much sentimental value lol worked my ass off to get it lol
Great video, thanks for posting. I'm out there shopping and this info helps. Is the overall NVH improved on the S550 versus the S197? You did reference the balance of the S550 engine, so the engine is smoother because it revs higher?? Thanks very much.
Great video! Have been thinking about one and this video pretty much convinced me! Best part is i work for a ford dealer definitely will get a good deal on one !
hey man love your videos, very informative! you mentioned the calibration being off on the roush cars that you can get from places like Lebanon ford. Is this something that an aftermarket tune could fix? I was considering going that route but maybe just get a stock GT and then adding a sc later with tune would be better.
Spot on. Good info too. Didn't know a 15x10 winter fit. Guess when u do get one I'll have to sell off my current drag pack. So much for using on the new ride
Man i talked too much shit! I was at the dealer in August and they had just taken a black 550 off the truck. I looked at it ...well to make a long story short I drove in with a 2014 S197 and drove out with a 2019 S550 GT! What a car,I went back to a 6speed stick and Im loving every minute of it,the autos may be faster but you cant get that sound without a stick! My wife and I are old but we still have that need for speed!
What? LOL have you not watched any of my videos? Truth be told. the s550 is simply better in many ways. Ford got it right with the motor, suspension and interior of this car.
+Alejandro Flores no I have man and I agree it's upgraded quite a bit just pride of being a S197 owner hurts to admit it's not as good when I could have gone with the 550. The supercharged option is badass didn't have that when I was in the market
I find hilarious how yolo and Alex are completely polar opposites lol. one's a cocky fuck and the other a humble dude. Keep up the videos man, great funny, educational shit on here.
Hey Alex, how can I request for your tuning? I've got a Coyote-swap 94 and ready to do some data logging with my SCT4. Great videos, btw! Very informative and entertaining.
Just ran a datalog tonight on a tune you wrote on Friday. Did a 4 gear pull and I was surprised to see almost 30 degrees timing. Damn! I backed off the throttle at 7100... didn't know where the limit was. The tune is super smooth. Just came from that Walmart of tuning with the so called fastest 2015 coyote with the 11-14 motor.
Thanks for speaking on this. I want my own personal S197 or S550 California Special, and I love the looks of the S197 CS/GT, but the S550 with a stick is such a dream to drive. Plus the coming 18' CS/GT has the 10-speed.😁
Hey, VMP is great company I do business with them.I really enjoy watching your Videos and the information provided for us ford mustang guys keep up the great work.
Hi Alex, At around 8:40 you mentioned disconnecting a harness. Where is this harness located on the F150? I recently dynoed my 2015 F150 with the Roush 2.3L TVS kit and at 4700 rpm it looked like it was pulling timing or traction control kicked in. Is this the symptom you were talking about when you said 'wiggs out'?
I've watched a few of your videos but this one is the one that made me subscribe. I'm looking to get a mustang sometime and this is nothing but good information here. As mentioned elsewhere in the comments, wish you had talked more about the pros of the 11-14 vs the 15+, but I guess there aren't many from the way you were talking in this video. That's ass about the Brembos not coming in automatic... wonder if it was the same for the '13-'14? Finding an automatic mustang is really hard.
Camaro Joey I'll tell you that the 13/14 is the way to go, cause the s197 platform has been proven to last and has been improved on. You have all the ambient lighting and track apps you need and plus this is the last true mustang made. The 2015 and up stangs do ride good but to me it rides like a wanna be sports car. I had a 08 ls3 c6 vette and before I sold it I rode in a 2016 mustang gt and it didn't wow me at all. Good riding car but I have a 535i as a daily driver and it felt like driving a sedan/luxury ish car. Drove a 13 gt black with the peanut butter interior and has been riding in it since lol. Whatever decision you make it's the right one because it's a stang.
Lazy question, once I change injectors, smaller pulley, throttle body, intake, tune to 91 octane, will I pass smog? I know I can go to stock with the programmer but will it pass tje sniff test?
Im an old guy,I drive a 2014 s197.I prefer the older look as compared to the S550.I have road tested the S550,everything you have said about the S550 is true.In my opinion the newer mustangs have the European look which the younger crowd like. I liked the car,but not good enough to trade my S197 for.
Well, just my two cents worth, the reason I bought my 2012 WAS the retro style. After all ,it is a Mustang. That being said, the S550's are a much improved package. Maybe someone will make an IRS system for the S197. I could really go for that!
2014 S197 mustang. Last mustang I’ll ever buy I love it and gonna keep it till I die or give it to my kid....it’ll be a garage queen im gonna look into collecting a new corvette for another muscle
Ditto, minus the garage queen part of the equation. I searched long and hard for my 2013 Grabber Blue Boss 302. Now I plan to keep it and drive it until it dies, or I do. It'll probably become a weekend car at some point, but I think it'd be pretty cool to see if I can take it from there 30,000 miles that I bought it with to 200,000+ miles eventually. The car loves to run. I plan to indulge it.
@@Bertinator-nm9ld hell yeah, I drive my 12 gt everyday, literally everyday I plan to run it as long as I can then just swap the block for a Gen 2 and keep it alive 🤙
hey Alex, excuse me English is my second language I didn't get the last part for the stick Shift guys What did You mean with (buy a supply compound )? Thanks
He said "bias ply". That is the "old" style tire that works well for drag racing. If I recall correctly, the advantage of a bias ply drag radial is the massive distortion and increase of the contact patch at launch. A dragster on bias ply rear tires is "slapping" the leading edge of rubber onto the pavement for better grip; Radial belted tires are designed to have minimal distortion. For the past 30 to 50 years-ish, cars and light trucks come with steel-belted radial tires that have a lot of desirable attributes if you do anything but drive in a straight line. There is plenty of info and links on the "tire" article in Wikipedia if you want to learn more.
I don't regret it! You said this car has the "Stop the Hop" IRS kit from Steeda. I was wondering if that was the kit with the Subframe Support Braces and Adjustable Rear Toe Links.
I like the 13 all the way to 18 mustang. I think I would buy a 15 or newer for that independent rear suspension. Depends on my budget when I'm ready to upgrade to one. Another great video sir
Luv this vid. Thanks Alex. I traded my 12 s197 brembo for an s550 and I miss the rawness of the s197. But in the s550 I don’t feel like I’m going to hit a pole if I get on it in the rain or around a corner. Oddly though I miss the thrill of nearly hitting a pole in the s197....
Nice thanks! I really like both cars but give the edge to the S197 in the sound department with the right exhaust setup. Your videos are very informative, I have taken a lot of your information into consideration and can definitely see myself contacting you in the future for mods whenever I make my purchase.
The only S197's that ever sounded good were the 05-10's with the 3V. The coyotes all sound like complete ass. I miss my 2009 with a set of Roush Extreme Catbacks (I do have two vids on my channel of the setup). That car sounded insane when it revved to 7k RPM. I have yet to find an exhaust for a Coyote that doesn't sound like complete ass at WOT. Too much rasp and "european tones" in the exhaust note to ever make it sound like the 3V did.
@@UrPeaceKeeper Have you ever given a listen to a BOSS 302 with GT500 axle backs and the side dump restrictor plates removed? That's one deep and throaty V8 exhaust setup!
Something about that body style on the S550 the rear part of body from fenders back just dont look right, i am considering one though trading my paid for 2014 on one from that place that does superchargers in the financing
We have a 16GT prem that my wife drives. I had an 08 Bullitt That was cammed with other bolt ons, 3.73 gear. My Bullitt was a funner car to drive. Felt like it handled better as well. I will agree the 16 has a much better interior feel and look, and yes the body grew on me. What I don't like is how big the nose seems when your in the driver seat. Never the less your videos are very informative. Thanks for the input. Matter fact, my old Bullitt was sold about 2 months ago to a very good friend that lives in Jax. It's a black one with 20" DF5 silver wheels and it sounds amazing. Just in case you see it rolling around.
When I went to get my 13 there was a 16 available but I like the look of the S197 more ... and you'd have to do a lot more weight reduction on the s550 (which ultimately why I went with the s197) I didn't know there was the much of a difference between the two other than cosmetics .... and watching reviews the s550 was the only one out the big three that gained weight and was slower to 60 (stock form) but I may consider getting one or at least a GT350 but I'd have to see what the 18s are going to do ...
I own a 16 mustang GT PP and I really like the handling and smoother ride.. is it possible to get 525hp at the crank NA style...could I port the heads swap intake...any suggestions
I had a 2014 GT premium w/track pack, but a blind old bat ran a light and totalled her. Now i have a 2016 GT premium w/track pack. i like the rear end of the 2014 better, and The 2014 has the advantage in a straight line race due to the live axle, but was at a major disadvantage when it came to turning. Yea it can do 1/10 of a second faster and the axle is stronger, but the daily driveability is inferior to the S550 and with a half shaft upgrade it can take just as much, if not more, power than the S197 I like the front of the S550 better. She looks much more aggressive from the front, she handles like a completely different animal, the interior is superior, the engine and it's components are superior, it can take more timing, and the ECU is better. S197 When choosing between the 2, the only reason, IMO, to choose the S197 is for looks.
Ta'Darrius Stanley Yeah bro. I got my 07' GT in 2013 and I felt bad about all the talk about my car being scrap metal compared to all the newer versions.
I’m so torn on what to buy right now i just sold my boosted s197 much like your 2011 black car im not sure if I should get a 15-17 gt stick car an boost it or get a 2020 10 speed an boost it I want something I could easily daily without worrying about it blowing apart at 650-750 wheel
I love my 2012 Boss, I grew up with the 60's mustang so I like the S197s retro look and the Boss has a great raw race car feel but there is no doubt that Ford has improved the newer cars, Keep up the great informative videos.
I have a boss and wife has a S550 5.0 loaded out. it's nice and all but I prefer the boss. I feel more connected to the car in the boss as opposed to hers. they are nice but not my cup of tea I'd get rid of hers before the boss
I have a 13 GT, please explain in a little more detail the purpose behind holding the traction control button and brake for 7 seconds. What's the benefit?
Danno Walters No real benefit just in the s197 you have to hold the brake and double tap the traction control button for (advanced track sport plus) mode instead of having to just flick a toggle switch to cut off all traction control and not just (traction control off)
THAT is what I like best about the 2013-14 is the RETRO styling with modern lights. It really was the last of the Mustang's....
retro styling was garbage... that's why their sales tanked
Texarmageddon the sales of the best looking most retro S197’s, the 05-09 were some of the best sales numbers Ford has seen in the last 20 years.
Jedi391 exactly. You better believe those cars will be the new classics in 20 years
I agree with you totally. I went with the 2014 just because of the old school look
@@fishels3895 the first gen s550 are the best looking by far. Wider body, sits lower, better taillights, front ends are debatable. But looks aside driving them is no competition. The s550 outclasses previous mustangs in every way. It actually handles like a sports car.
Dude, i love the old school Pony look. I just had to buy a 2014 the last of a dying classic great car.
Danie James same i own a 2014 gt and would never trade it for a s550 even if it were brand new. Mine has 39k miles
I own a 18 gt, I prefer them because the interior
But the 14s look great
@*Big Bad Wolf* but the interior is awful in 14. I agree with you tho
i guess it's kind of randomly asking but do anyone know a good site to watch new tv shows online?
That title though... Came here for a comparison, left with an S550 review.
It’s pretty obvious which ones better
@@nativezs8879 your opinion.
S197 all the way baby!
It will do the straight line 100 times better than the s550. Put a gen2 coyote in a S197 and you have the perfect combo to go low 7s with a blower fairly easy compared to ho much more its gonna take the s550 to hit low 7s.
i still love my 14 gt. good video!
2014's S197s are the best of all the Mustang in general aside from the earlier foxbodys of the 90's.
2013-2014 mustangs are the best ever hands down.. the mix between modern and classic is amazing
S197 will always look more aggressive and meaner in my opinion. The 15+ still hasn’t grown on me yet. I still like them but just not as much as the 13/14
Tuned 3.7 I can see where your coming from. I’m the same but I have a “12 5.0 lol
@@ThrashMetalAJM i hated the s550 when it first came out and i like it now too lmao🤣
@@Fr3sh-Kush i dont hate the s550 but it isnt for me. ill always be s197
Spoken by the man with the s550 profile pic
@@reidzitzelberg7329 did you notice I posted my comment 3 years ago bud?
I love the S197's! The 13-14's were the best looking Mustangs ever built!
I respect your opinion but this wasn't much of a one vs one video... this is more of a "you should get this"... there wasn't much comparison. What about the fact that the S197 is lighter, and have reported better times in both 1/4 and 1/2 mile? I will admit that the interiors are better, but thats with every new generation of car... so that's to be expected.
The S197 is only lighter by 40-80 pounds depending on which package you get from the S550. Explain to me what difference 80lbs heavier does???? These cars are not too far from each other when it comes to performance, that said, It's easy for a broken in S197 to beat a 0 mile S550. But once that S550 has broken in, say bye bye, S197 does not have a chance. But it all comes down to what mods you have. Just CAI can make the difference in both cars. Type in the search S197 vs S550, 80% of the videos you see the S550 smokes S197. Before my S550, I had 2013 S197, and believe me, S550 is better all around. It really just comes down to your personal like in the body style. And that is a personal opinion, not a fact.
MustafaGT 2013 gt is listed at 3550 the 2015 4 banger weighs 3530 and the 2015 mustang gt is listed at 3800.. do some research bro
If i were you I double check your info bro.
Kristofer Pribble Better yet, here you go bro.
blog.caranddriver.com/dont-worry-yall-2015-mustang-curb-weights-revealed-gains-are-minimal/
Keep buying into that weight bullshit that everybody was talking about at the beginning of 2015. Keep listening to the haters.
Kristofer Pribble Hell, all you have to do is search in google 2015 mustang gt weight and in a different tab search the same for 2014 mustang gt weight and bang you get the TRUE facts. Smh!!! Hope this info helps you bro!
I like going back and re-watching your videos. Good info Alex. Thank you!
I’ll never get rid of my 13 Gt 6speed ! Great video though !!
One of the best yrs. of the S197 mustangs.
I really tried to like the S550 exterior, but that short bus-riding fishface design just gets to me if I stare at it for too long.
By far the most informative video on the subject. Thank you sir!
Yes newer is always better. But for me the retro looks of the S197 is much better.
The point is that you "have to get used to" the S550 front end, the S197s always looked good. I really hope whoever designed the new Mustang front end is off of the design team.
S197 looks like trash especially the 05-10
Great job on the review, Alex. It's the info we car guys want to know. Best review out there on the S550.
Thank you for the educational clip, Alex. I learned some cool stuff and I feel good about my S550.
It’s 2020 now, the S550 is still a fucking Fusion 😆
Alex great video again bro 👍 thanks for all your suggestions and tips on the Ford Mustangs your great help and knowledgeable.
This is the absolute best Mustang channel on you tube !
I'm a Hellcat guy and find these videos fascinating! Great info & summaries.🤔 Amazing how much strength is in the stock Mustang engine architecture and driveline.😮 Plus...so refreshing to see an adult put out this information. Nice!
Yeah I can see that plus Imma A mustang Guy(Fan of S197)
Great videos very knowledgeable keep up the great work we appreciate it.
S197 was a work of love. Since the introduction of the concept car, later the 2005, rebirth of the gt500, the redesign in 2010, the new engine in 2011, all the while maintaining the retro look and feel. The S550 is a nice sportscar it just doesnt look or feel like a mustang, the same way anything after 1970 didnt, until the 2005-2014. The GT350 looked great, they just messed up the front end in the v6 and L4 and GT. The 2018 is a significant improvement in the looks department. I was tempted by the 2018 and I will buy a 2019 bullit next year, but I think 2005 to 2014 will age much, much better than the newer ones.
I already got the s550 but still watch for knowledge. Fuccin badass videos!
Still love my S197 Boss 302. I can dig the look of the new ones though, I like the '18's even more! Great videos!
i dont think i could ever trade in my 2011 shelby for the newer ones.. just love that car too much lol
Good choice
mihkal Have you driven a regular GT350? That's a mean sounding animal. I'd trade that 2011 Shelby for a 18 or 19 GT500 when that comes out but that's just me!
I actually have a friend who has one. It just haven't gotten around to driving it lol it does sounds amazing though. As far as the 18-19 Shelby goes I'm sure they'll be monsters but I rather mod my 11 to my taste lol too much sentimental value lol worked my ass off to get it lol
I’m totally content with my 2010 GT. It’s not a 5.0,but with just a few bolt on mods and exhaust,it makes for a great,fun car to drive.
Those Mod motors can Rock! I was into the Lincoln Mk8 DOHC, the 4V predescessor to the Cobra and Coyote. No VVT however.
@@markhall34343.7 faster tho
Great video, thanks for posting. I'm out there shopping and this info helps. Is the overall NVH improved on the S550 versus the S197? You did reference the balance of the S550 engine, so the engine is smoother because it revs higher?? Thanks very much.
Another great vid, man!
Great video! Have been thinking about one and this video pretty much convinced me! Best part is i work for a ford dealer definitely will get a good deal on one !
No love for the S197!
I love 2014 S197 GT500 it feels like more manly and more of muscle than A S550 I wish Ford brings back the S197 Mustangs(S197 Version 2)
@@spaceman9929 Yeah those are the best yrs. model designs
hey man love your videos, very informative! you mentioned the calibration being off on the roush cars that you can get from places like Lebanon ford. Is this something that an aftermarket tune could fix? I was considering going that route but maybe just get a stock GT and then adding a sc later with tune would be better.
Great Video Thanks for posting!
Spot on. Good info too. Didn't know a 15x10 winter fit. Guess when u do get one I'll have to sell off my current drag pack. So much for using on the new ride
Man i talked too much shit! I was at the dealer in August and they had just taken a black 550 off the truck. I looked at it ...well to make a long story short I drove in with a 2014 S197 and drove out with a 2019 S550 GT! What a car,I went back to a 6speed stick and Im loving every minute of it,the autos may be faster but you cant get that sound without a stick! My wife and I are old but we still have that need for speed!
Damn bro I’m debating on a gen 2 with 17k miles with some cosmetic things done vs a gen 3 2k miles both same price and both manuals
Bro no love at all for the S197 killin me here
What? LOL have you not watched any of my videos?
Truth be told. the s550 is simply better in many ways. Ford got it right with the motor, suspension and interior of this car.
+Alejandro Flores no I have man and I agree it's upgraded quite a bit just pride of being a S197 owner hurts to admit it's not as good when I could have gone with the 550. The supercharged option is badass didn't have that when I was in the market
ozz mann I feel your pain man, I have an 11 s197. I absolutely LOVE my car!
Thanks man i was trying to decide which to get im taking your advice 15 or 16 and im in ga going to bring it to you to put a vmp super on it.....
I'm happy with my 14, love the look of the 13's and 14, jmo.
I find hilarious how yolo and Alex are completely polar opposites lol. one's a cocky fuck and the other a humble dude. Keep up the videos man, great funny, educational shit on here.
Hey Alex, how can I request for your tuning? I've got a Coyote-swap 94 and ready to do some data logging with my SCT4.
Great videos, btw! Very informative and entertaining.
Just ran a datalog tonight on a tune you wrote on Friday. Did a 4 gear pull and I was surprised to see almost 30 degrees timing. Damn! I backed off the throttle at 7100... didn't know where the limit was. The tune is super smooth. Just came from that Walmart of tuning with the so called fastest 2015 coyote with the 11-14 motor.
Awesome video!
Thanks for speaking on this. I want my own personal S197 or S550 California Special, and I love the looks of the S197 CS/GT, but the S550 with a stick is such a dream to drive. Plus the coming 18' CS/GT has the 10-speed.😁
One of my fav things about my 2010 is the fact that it looks so much like the 69 with a modern touch.
Great info! I like the looks of S197 and the S550, but this video pushed me towards the newer one.
Hey, VMP is great company I do business with them.I really enjoy watching your Videos and the information provided for us ford mustang guys keep up the great work.
Nice video. I have a question for you. If you could get a 14 with 35k miles for 23k or a 16 with 73k miles for 24.5k, which would you choose?
Hi Alex, At around 8:40 you mentioned disconnecting a harness. Where is this harness located on the F150? I recently dynoed my 2015 F150 with the Roush 2.3L TVS kit and at 4700 rpm it looked like it was pulling timing or traction control kicked in. Is this the symptom you were talking about when you said 'wiggs out'?
Great videos keep it up
Hey Alex would you rather get a 03-04 Cobra or a 11-17 5.0?
thanks man really helped !
Awesome video. Thanks for your input..
Very nice description..
SOAB! I've been wondering wtf that jumper plug was since I bought the car. Thanks Alex!
Damn... very good video
I've watched a few of your videos but this one is the one that made me subscribe. I'm looking to get a mustang sometime and this is nothing but good information here. As mentioned elsewhere in the comments, wish you had talked more about the pros of the 11-14 vs the 15+, but I guess there aren't many from the way you were talking in this video.
That's ass about the Brembos not coming in automatic... wonder if it was the same for the '13-'14? Finding an automatic mustang is really hard.
Camaro Joey I'll tell you that the 13/14 is the way to go, cause the s197 platform has been proven to last and has been improved on. You have all the ambient lighting and track apps you need and plus this is the last true mustang made. The 2015 and up stangs do ride good but to me it rides like a wanna be sports car. I had a 08 ls3 c6 vette and before I sold it I rode in a 2016 mustang gt and it didn't wow me at all. Good riding car but I have a 535i as a daily driver and it felt like driving a sedan/luxury ish car. Drove a 13 gt black with the peanut butter interior and has been riding in it since lol. Whatever decision you make it's the right one because it's a stang.
What about a 12 to 13 Boss vs S550. Which motor is better?
Damn Alex, i love these videos !
Thanks man!
Alejandro Flores yeah man! monetize them videos and get that cash flow!
Do they have a fuse or a plug for the s197 models? like the 11-14
Lazy question, once I change injectors, smaller pulley, throttle body, intake, tune to 91 octane, will I pass smog? I know I can go to stock with the programmer but will it pass tje sniff test?
As far as traction control is there anything special I can unplug on a 08 GT?
I have a 2017 mustang gt premium and I want to buy a procharger is there anything I should know or any tips?
Im an old guy,I drive a 2014 s197.I prefer the older look as compared to the S550.I have road tested the S550,everything you have said about the S550 is true.In my opinion the newer mustangs have the European look which the younger crowd like. I liked the car,but not good enough to trade my S197 for.
George Edmonds lol has 2018 as his profile picture 😂looks like you like the European look
Ked24 yeah it took a while for me to warm up to it! Nice ride!
Appreciated your video though! so liked. Trying to be fair without judgment. Heheh
what grill inserts are those?
Is the 2012 mustang gt roush 1 a good car to buy it?
Well, just my two cents worth, the reason I bought my 2012 WAS the retro style. After all ,it is a Mustang. That being said, the S550's are a much improved package. Maybe someone will make an IRS system for the S197. I could really go for that!
The 2012s look great
2014 S197 mustang. Last mustang I’ll ever buy I love it and gonna keep it till I die or give it to my kid....it’ll be a garage queen im gonna look into collecting a new corvette for another muscle
Ditto, minus the garage queen part of the equation.
I searched long and hard for my 2013 Grabber Blue Boss 302. Now I plan to keep it and drive it until it dies, or I do.
It'll probably become a weekend car at some point, but I think it'd be pretty cool to see if I can take it from there 30,000 miles that I bought it with to 200,000+ miles eventually. The car loves to run. I plan to indulge it.
@@Bertinator-nm9ld hell yeah, I drive my 12 gt everyday, literally everyday I plan to run it as long as I can then just swap the block for a Gen 2 and keep it alive 🤙
@@Bertinator-nm9ld currently sits at 133k 😎
Love my 14 S197 6speed
hey Alex, excuse me English is my second language I didn't get the last part for the stick Shift guys What did You mean with (buy a supply compound )? Thanks
He said "bias ply". That is the "old" style tire that works well for drag racing. If I recall correctly, the advantage of a bias ply drag radial is the massive distortion and increase of the contact patch at launch. A dragster on bias ply rear tires is "slapping" the leading edge of rubber onto the pavement for better grip; Radial belted tires are designed to have minimal distortion. For the past 30 to 50 years-ish, cars and light trucks come with steel-belted radial tires that have a lot of desirable attributes if you do anything but drive in a straight line. There is plenty of info and links on the "tire" article in Wikipedia if you want to learn more.
What stage SC is that. And do you have a cam set up as well
FloAMGFitness stock cams..Stage 3.
Alejandro Flores good content!
I don't regret it! You said this car has the "Stop the Hop" IRS kit from Steeda. I was wondering if that was the kit with the Subframe Support Braces and Adjustable Rear Toe Links.
Great tips Alex. Sticking with my 96 cobra though,got plans for this baby.
Buy a coyote engine and put it in. LOL
I gave that a thought,if the funds are there.
What is your opinion on the Boss roadrunner engine vs the S550 motor? Which seems more balanced when tuning?
Ok My opinion is different if you wanted something muscle and manly get the shelby GT500 instead
I like the 13 all the way to 18 mustang. I think I would buy a 15 or newer for that independent rear suspension. Depends on my budget when I'm ready to upgrade to one. Another great video sir
11 to 14 s197 is best. Looks so much better 😍
Luv this vid. Thanks Alex. I traded my 12 s197 brembo for an s550 and I miss the rawness of the s197. But in the s550 I don’t feel like I’m going to hit a pole if I get on it in the rain or around a corner. Oddly though I miss the thrill of nearly hitting a pole in the s197....
I did just that in my 12 lol... had it for 9yrs... now looking at s550. Maybe itll keep me off them poles.
Stick shift s550 GT here...... If i run a bias ply slick on rear and a radial up front will it ride like shit?
To each it's own . I like my S197
Nice thanks! I really like both cars but give the edge to the S197 in the sound department with the right exhaust setup. Your videos are very informative, I have taken a lot of your information into consideration and can definitely see myself contacting you in the future for mods whenever I make my purchase.
The only S197's that ever sounded good were the 05-10's with the 3V. The coyotes all sound like complete ass. I miss my 2009 with a set of Roush Extreme Catbacks (I do have two vids on my channel of the setup). That car sounded insane when it revved to 7k RPM. I have yet to find an exhaust for a Coyote that doesn't sound like complete ass at WOT. Too much rasp and "european tones" in the exhaust note to ever make it sound like the 3V did.
@@UrPeaceKeeper Have you ever given a listen to a BOSS 302 with GT500 axle backs and the side dump restrictor plates removed? That's one deep and throaty V8 exhaust setup!
Something about that body style on the S550 the rear part of body from fenders back just dont look right, i am considering one though trading my paid for 2014 on one from that place that does superchargers in the financing
Boss 302 or the s550?
We have a 16GT prem that my wife drives. I had an 08 Bullitt That was cammed with other bolt ons, 3.73 gear. My Bullitt was a funner car to drive. Felt like it handled better as well. I will agree the 16 has a much better interior feel and look, and yes the body grew on me. What I don't like is how big the nose seems when your in the driver seat. Never the less your videos are very informative. Thanks for the input. Matter fact, my old Bullitt was sold about 2 months ago to a very good friend that lives in Jax. It's a black one with 20" DF5 silver wheels and it sounds amazing. Just in case you see it rolling around.
something is wrong with your 16 if an 08 built handled better, as a s197 fan,
that intro picture haha had me dying bro
Got a question for you
What's your opinion on swapping out a 4.6 with a 15-18 5.0 (this is going in a 98 gt vert
Adam Kruse love it
Alejandro Flores pm me for photo
When I went to get my 13 there was a 16 available but I like the look of the S197 more ... and you'd have to do a lot more weight reduction on the s550 (which ultimately why I went with the s197) I didn't know there was the much of a difference between the two other than cosmetics .... and watching reviews the s550 was the only one out the big three that gained weight and was slower to 60 (stock form) but I may consider getting one or at least a GT350 but I'd have to see what the 18s are going to do ...
What is your opinion on Dodge, more specifically the hell cats?
Im A Ford guy specially I like the design it looks like in the 1970s I wish Ford brings back the S197 Mustangs(S197 Version 2)
Will keep my 2014 S197 thanks..with a few little mods.
I own a 16 mustang GT PP and I really like the handling and smoother ride.. is it possible to get 525hp at the crank NA style...could I port the heads swap intake...any suggestions
Zelmar Hernandez e85... cams.. port the heads... cj intake.. it can be close to 500 rwhp
Alejandro Flores sweet! thanks....
U can def get in the 500s while still being NA if u have a 10 speed
thx for the info
I had a 2014 GT premium w/track pack, but a blind old bat ran a light and totalled her. Now i have a 2016 GT premium w/track pack. i like the rear end of the 2014 better, and The 2014 has the advantage in a straight line race due to the live axle, but was at a major disadvantage when it came to turning. Yea it can do 1/10 of a second faster and the axle is stronger, but the daily driveability is inferior to the S550 and with a half shaft upgrade it can take just as much, if not more, power than the S197
I like the front of the S550 better. She looks much more aggressive from the front, she handles like a completely different animal, the interior is superior, the engine and it's components are superior, it can take more timing, and the ECU is better. S197
When choosing between the 2, the only reason, IMO, to choose the S197 is for looks.
Before cars everyone had a mustang
11-14 owners are now experiencing what the 05-09 3V owners feel lol
Ta'Darrius Stanley lmfao nice try not even close. A 11-14 coyote doesn't blow tf after 450rwhp haha 😂
Ta'Darrius Stanley
Yeah bro. I got my 07' GT in 2013 and I felt bad about all the talk about my car being scrap metal compared to all the newer versions.
Ta'Darrius Stanley Except the 3V is the best looking Mustang built since the 69 fastbacks.
Jedi391 facts
3v are still sexy
I’m so torn on what to buy right now i just sold my boosted s197 much like your 2011 black car im not sure if I should get a 15-17 gt stick car an boost it or get a 2020 10 speed an boost it I want something I could easily daily without worrying about it blowing apart at 650-750 wheel
Idk man the 2018 look like shit except the angled taillights is what I like
You can daily both with the proper tune for your boost….But that A10 is 🔥🔥!
Alex what about the 2012-13 Boss 302 Engines that still are limited to 7700 RPMs but they do have better internals and heads etc. Thanks.
aaron18132 it's basically a 2015 e gine. except the boss cams are better than gt cams. You can make 800+whp easily when boosted
I love my 2012 Boss, I grew up with the 60's mustang so I like the S197s retro look and the Boss has a great raw race car feel but there is no doubt that Ford has improved the newer cars, Keep up the great informative videos.
alex can you use slicks in the back and the stock tire on the front?
Ricardo Simon I know I'm not Alex, but, yeah, you can. A lot of guys do that.
Thanks buddy
I have a boss and wife has a S550 5.0 loaded out. it's nice and all but I prefer the boss. I feel more connected to the car in the boss as opposed to hers. they are nice but not my cup of tea I'd get rid of hers before the boss
Nothing nice to say about the 11 to 14 mustang? Did Ford pay you to sweet talk the new gen mustang?
I have a 13 GT, please explain in a little more detail the purpose behind holding the traction control button and brake for 7 seconds. What's the benefit?
Danno Walters No real benefit just in the s197 you have to hold the brake and double tap the traction control button for (advanced track sport plus) mode instead of having to just flick a toggle switch to cut off all traction control and not just (traction control off)
What are good examples on why you'd want to turn the advance traction control off?
Alex, I hope you're gonna upgrade soon. Don't get a regular GT though, shoot for the Shelbys or the rumored Bullitt!