*Came in today and my friend and I both rode **Latest.Bike** Scooter around for about an hour. Was lots of fun and didn't drain the battery much at all!*
Side by side stance is not a safe way to ride. It shouldn't be considered a "preference". It gives you less stability and a higher chance of going over the handlebars during a sudden stop.
Great tips all around. However... I pretty strongly disagree about #11 -- side-by-side stance is much, much worse. The biggest reason being that standing side by side forces you to push & pull on the stem far more because you only have your ankle muscles to counter balance the momentum change. When one-forward/one-back stance you use your whole legs and bend your knees to dramatically change where you center of gravity is in relationship to the scooter -- it makes a huge difference to keeping weight off the stem and for being able to very strongly lean back against braking or in for acceleration.
Maybe I haven’t given it enough time to really take over for all conditions of riding for me. I noticed that for off road or when bumpy it’s great to do “skateboard” stance. However, commuting on mostly smooth surfaces and gradual curves, I get less tired with “side by side”, with weight equally distributed, given my commute is 15-16 miles one way. Maybe it’s also familiarity with the stand from Electric Unicycles I ride (EUCs) that force you into this position. And being a skier for years, never having tried snowboarding and skateboarding. I agree with you generally when it comes to performance, and especially on scooters with narrower decks.
Tested out a scooter the other day and the very experienced shop owner corrected me on my standing position and basically told me to stand same way as you surf/skate just like you've said but didn't say why. Thank you for explaining the reason why as I'm the kinda person that always needs to know why lol. I've screenshot your comment to read back :)
Good choice! I have a normal m365 that I use as a “guest scooter” when my friends want to join me. I’ve been thinking about upgrading it to Pro, to ride together longer. Cheers!
How do you go so smooth, my Xiaomi 4ultra is wobbly. I must hold it so hard to not wobble. Am I doing something wrong or can I make it harden to be less wobbly?
Great video! thanks for the tips...two questions...What brand were the elbow and knee pads you showed on the video? You also mentioned it's best for your stance to keep your weight toward the back of the scooter...is that assuming you have front wheel drive? I have a Glion Dolly (which has rear wheel drive) and if you don't put enough weight to the front of the scooter you run the risk of "a wheelie".
Look for “G-form Pro” knee pads (on amazon), they’re good. Regarding weight and stance: I think it’s important to place your feet towards the very back. This way you benefits from most important safety factor - if you have to suddenly brake, you won’t flip forwards. And in emergencies you might not have time to adjust, so it’s good to be prepared to always be able to brake hard. As for acceleration - I recommend leaning forward a bit (while not moving your feet). You can anticipate when you’ve decided to add power, and compensate by leaning forward a bit earlier. And you don’t have to move your feet this way between accelerating and braking
My problem is that my scooter shuts off when I go flying downhill, especially on large bridges. If I’m in third gear just tap my brakes for control going downhill. What is the correct way to use gears going downhill on an electric scooter. My Joyor y9 goes 28mph for 50.9 mile range. Thanks 🙏
Makes me kind of pissed that scooters in my country are locked to a maximum of 22km/h, due to the EU. And we cannot have seats on. A year or two back, the chance of getting caught on an illegal scooter was minimal, but today they have intensified the enforcement of the laws surrounding the scooters. It's just not worth it. Personally I have never driven scooters apart from two hours on Renta-bikes, when I visited Oslo a few months ago. Hoping to be able to afford one soon though, as they would really be of help to get around fast, safe, and cheaply.
miamigq22 Sure, I’ll try to! Originally, I wanted to make it feel less like a “paid advertising” promoting gear, and just describe general “types”. But some gear I’ve chosen so far I’m quite happy with, and community would benefit from seeing it, hopefully without feeling it’s a promotion of products :)
I don't understand the charge theory, therefore. To save battery life, should you charge the battery as soon as you finish using it, even if the battery isn't low? or should you allow the battery drop as low as possible before doing so? I've always heard you don't want to over charge the battery?
The lithium battery is happiest around 60% charge. The most ideal scenario is to charge it to 60% if you're below that after a ride, and stop, and then get it up to a high charge state right before you ride next time. But that's ideal, you probably don't need to stress too much about it. I'd do a happy balance between what's convenient and what's best for the battery. As long as you don't keep it at 0% or 100% for a long period of time, you're probably good
you definitely don't want to allow the battery to 'drop as low as possible', especially intentionally, this isn't a lead-acid battery that had 'memory effects' and needed to be cycled. It's bad for lithium batteries to be discharged deeply.
@@electricfuture7456 Was this upgrade a pretty straight forward bolt on? Have you had to change / repair a tube or tire and is it as awful as everyone says it is? I have repaired perhaps 100+ flat tires on a bicycle and it is usually not a big deal, though the smaller, stiffer tire might make a lot of difference.
Fixing flat tire on my Spider is pretty easy, there’s a good video about it that helped me: ua-cam.com/video/FQ5nu60uk7Q/v-deo.html . Having good tools help - the tire levers are mandatory, ideally metal not plastic too. Some people complaining don’t have the right tools. But it’s a bit harder than bicycle one. The brakes upgrade was pretty straight forward, but right out of the box the brakes rub on the motor. Some people add spacers between wheel and brake rotor, but I used a dremel to shave off a millimeter from the metal housing of the brakes. Worked great!
I just got my scooter 2 months ago and what’s the best way to get the bumps out because when ever I ride sometimes the wheel bar moves front and back and also sometimes the bumps even hurt I have a m365
Is it legal to ride on sidewalks where you are? I've been researching getting an electric scooter, and it seems like here in California you either have to have it on a road where the speed limit is 25 mph or less, or be in a bike lane / on a bike path. Being able to go wherever you would normally be able to walk sounds like a blast but it seems like most places prohibit that.
in new york its completely illegal. most people still do it because roads in new york are similiar to southeast asia (because 90 percent of the people who drive here learned in southeast asia)
@@843Reboot Me too XD I don't actually own any property but sometimes people are cool about it. Parking lots etc. are private property technically speaking.
On flat ground, it's more like 37-38mph for my weight (125lbs) when not low on battery. My Spider Limited is a little better than non-Limited too, voltage dips less under power due to bigger battery. 40+ is usually downhill, we have lots of long gradual hills here
You need to slow, move to the middle of the lane, and check EVERY intersection as you go through them. People can't see you in the bike lane and you're gonna ride a hood one of these days.
My commute is 15-16 miles one way, and 80% on fully separated bicycle trails. Thank you for your suggestion, but you’re assuming I don’t own a motorcycle already, which I do. Being forced to drive on roads 100% of the time isn’t as fun, and is more dangerous imo, with people texting from their heavy cars.
*Came in today and my friend and I both rode **Latest.Bike** Scooter around for about an hour. Was lots of fun and didn't drain the battery much at all!*
Side by side stance is not a safe way to ride. It shouldn't be considered a "preference". It gives you less stability and a higher chance of going over the handlebars during a sudden stop.
This video is so good! Especially the battery info...I've never heard that stuff... Thank you!!!
Excellent video. 63 year old debating purchase for commuting. The helmet info alone was worth the watch. Battery info great. Thanks.
Great tips all around. However...
I pretty strongly disagree about #11 -- side-by-side stance is much, much worse.
The biggest reason being that standing side by side forces you to push & pull on the stem far more because you only have your ankle muscles to counter balance the momentum change.
When one-forward/one-back stance you use your whole legs and bend your knees to dramatically change where you center of gravity is in relationship to the scooter -- it makes a huge difference to keeping weight off the stem and for being able to very strongly lean back against braking or in for acceleration.
Maybe I haven’t given it enough time to really take over for all conditions of riding for me. I noticed that for off road or when bumpy it’s great to do “skateboard” stance. However, commuting on mostly smooth surfaces and gradual curves, I get less tired with “side by side”, with weight equally distributed, given my commute is 15-16 miles one way. Maybe it’s also familiarity with the stand from Electric Unicycles I ride (EUCs) that force you into this position. And being a skier for years, never having tried snowboarding and skateboarding. I agree with you generally when it comes to performance, and especially on scooters with narrower decks.
Tested out a scooter the other day and the very experienced shop owner corrected me on my standing position and basically told me to stand same way as you surf/skate just like you've said but didn't say why. Thank you for explaining the reason why as I'm the kinda person that always needs to know why lol. I've screenshot your comment to read back :)
You are a scooter master , living the dream
just got my XiaoMi Pro, love your humbleness tutorial , best escooter tips on youtube
same here =) bought my PRO 4 days ago =)
mine should be coming tomorrow! :D
Great video! Could you please sent us the link of the page about all battery info, graphics, lifecycle etc?
Great advice mate! First time scooter owner of an M365 Pro and this is really excellent stuff!
Good choice! I have a normal m365 that I use as a “guest scooter” when my friends want to join me. I’ve been thinking about upgrading it to Pro, to ride together longer. Cheers!
I have M365 pro as well. After you unlock it, this thing flies.
Nice video covered everything very well
Cool video, with sensible and practical real world tips.
Hey this is in Bellevue/Redmond/MSFT campus area!! I do electric scooter videos too, but I ride around Seattle/Downtown area :) Dope Dualtron!!
Nice! I’m thinking about moving to Seattle area too within the next couple months :)
How do you know your battery's SoC percentage?
How do you go so smooth, my Xiaomi 4ultra is wobbly. I must hold it so hard to not wobble. Am I doing something wrong or can I make it harden to be less wobbly?
Where did you get the lights? They were so cool!
Nice to find another scooter channel from Bellevue!
Nice and very complete video. Thanks!!!
Glad you liked it!
Where did u buy the light i need that
Great video! thanks for the tips...two questions...What brand were the elbow and knee pads you showed on the video? You also mentioned it's best for your stance to keep your weight toward the back of the scooter...is that assuming you have front wheel drive? I have a Glion Dolly (which has rear wheel drive) and if you don't put enough weight to the front of the scooter you run the risk of "a wheelie".
Look for “G-form Pro” knee pads (on amazon), they’re good. Regarding weight and stance: I think it’s important to place your feet towards the very back. This way you benefits from most important safety factor - if you have to suddenly brake, you won’t flip forwards. And in emergencies you might not have time to adjust, so it’s good to be prepared to always be able to brake hard. As for acceleration - I recommend leaning forward a bit (while not moving your feet). You can anticipate when you’ve decided to add power, and compensate by leaning forward a bit earlier. And you don’t have to move your feet this way between accelerating and braking
ElectricFuture Thank you for the simple, logical answer. Much appreciated! Add one more subscriber to your list!
What brand are your gloves?
My problem is that my scooter shuts off when I go flying downhill, especially on large bridges. If I’m in third gear just tap my brakes for control going downhill. What is the correct way to use gears going downhill on an electric scooter. My Joyor y9 goes 28mph for 50.9 mile range. Thanks 🙏
Pretty awesome to see you keeping up with cars in traffic on the roads. That scooter looks powerful.
Makes me kind of pissed that scooters in my country are locked to a maximum of 22km/h, due to the EU. And we cannot have seats on. A year or two back, the chance of getting caught on an illegal scooter was minimal, but today they have intensified the enforcement of the laws surrounding the scooters. It's just not worth it. Personally I have never driven scooters apart from two hours on Renta-bikes, when I visited Oslo a few months ago. Hoping to be able to afford one soon though, as they would really be of help to get around fast, safe, and cheaply.
This was really informative. Thanks.
Great video! Could you please put names and Amazon links to the safety gear you use or recommend? 😃
miamigq22 Sure, I’ll try to! Originally, I wanted to make it feel less like a “paid advertising” promoting gear, and just describe general “types”. But some gear I’ve chosen so far I’m quite happy with, and community would benefit from seeing it, hopefully without feeling it’s a promotion of products :)
ElectricFuture totally agree, looking forward to the video!
I don't understand the charge theory, therefore. To save battery life, should you charge the battery as soon as you finish using it, even if the battery isn't low? or should you allow the battery drop as low as possible before doing so? I've always heard you don't want to over charge the battery?
The lithium battery is happiest around 60% charge. The most ideal scenario is to charge it to 60% if you're below that after a ride, and stop, and then get it up to a high charge state right before you ride next time. But that's ideal, you probably don't need to stress too much about it. I'd do a happy balance between what's convenient and what's best for the battery. As long as you don't keep it at 0% or 100% for a long period of time, you're probably good
you definitely don't want to allow the battery to 'drop as low as possible', especially intentionally, this isn't a lead-acid battery that had 'memory effects' and needed to be cycled. It's bad for lithium batteries to be discharged deeply.
@@electricfuture7456 thank you so much for the advice! Much appreciated! I thought it was the opposite!
@@electricfuture7456very interesting stuff and I appreciate your insight on the matter. How can I determine what 60% is for my particular battery?
I just got my first electric scooter- very helpful video - also recognized these streets
Looks like you removed the fenders from the scooter. Don't you leave in a wet climate? Why did you remove them?
I had them off for installing Xtech zoom hybrid hydraulic brakes on my Spider - I usually ride with fenders on :)
@@electricfuture7456 Was this upgrade a pretty straight forward bolt on? Have you had to change / repair a tube or tire and is it as awful as everyone says it is? I have repaired perhaps 100+ flat tires on a bicycle and it is usually not a big deal, though the smaller, stiffer tire might make a lot of difference.
Fixing flat tire on my Spider is pretty easy, there’s a good video about it that helped me: ua-cam.com/video/FQ5nu60uk7Q/v-deo.html . Having good tools help - the tire levers are mandatory, ideally metal not plastic too. Some people complaining don’t have the right tools. But it’s a bit harder than bicycle one. The brakes upgrade was pretty straight forward, but right out of the box the brakes rub on the motor. Some people add spacers between wheel and brake rotor, but I used a dremel to shave off a millimeter from the metal housing of the brakes. Worked great!
Very helpful and what type elbow and pads are you using? I didn't have much luck finding under clothing pads.
Look for “G-Form knee pads” on Amazon, I like them a lot. Make sure to get the right size so they’re not too tight, and don’t move around/slide off
@@electricfuture7456 Thanks can't wait to get these.
What are you riding at the end of the video? The hangers look like my Dragon gtr v2 but without the horn..
It’s the Turbowheel Swift at the end
Just got a Go ride 80 pro is arriving in the morning
Should of gave us some links to your gear you brought bro but good video
where’s that trail at around 9:10 looks really fun to ride around.
That’s Marymoor park in Redmond, WA!
ElectricFuture great thanks :) will check it out this week.
I just got my scooter 2 months ago and what’s the best way to get the bumps out because when ever I ride sometimes the wheel bar moves front and back and also sometimes the bumps even hurt I have a m365
A suspension, you can buy one for around 75 bucks on amazon
If there's one or two bump that you can anticipate i just jump with the scooter
14 is thebest tips : HAVE FUN
what is the electric scooter called the one that goes 40 mph
Varla
Lots of those clips were filmed right by my house ! DM me on IG and let's ride! @GingeronWheels
That'd be fun! Weekends are usually the best for me :) When it's not too wet outside, haha
@@electricfuture7456 I believe there is a group ride right in our neck of the woods next weekend. Join Seattle E-Riders on facebook!
I need to start a similar group in Miami. Tired of riding alone 😔
"But where do you attach the license plate?" Don't laugh, I bet it's coming.
I like your electric scooter so cool👍👍👍👍👍👍
Is it legal to ride on sidewalks where you are? I've been researching getting an electric scooter, and it seems like here in California you either have to have it on a road where the speed limit is 25 mph or less, or be in a bike lane / on a bike path. Being able to go wherever you would normally be able to walk sounds like a blast but it seems like most places prohibit that.
in new york its completely illegal. most people still do it because roads in new york are similiar to southeast asia (because 90 percent of the people who drive here learned in southeast asia)
@@843Reboot Makes sense. I finally bought one, and I keep it to private property or the street in my HOA.
@@rebeccarainharrod nice, wish i had private property
@@843Reboot Me too XD I don't actually own any property but sometimes people are cool about it. Parking lots etc. are private property technically speaking.
@@rebeccarainharrod never. out here you go to jail for that shit.
How do you get your Spider to go over 40mph?
On flat ground, it's more like 37-38mph for my weight (125lbs) when not low on battery. My Spider Limited is a little better than non-Limited too, voltage dips less under power due to bigger battery. 40+ is usually downhill, we have lots of long gradual hills here
Great video man. Thank you!
Outstanding tips!
Typical pilot, have to throw that in there somewhere. LET EM KNOW, LET EM KNOW! Great video by the way!
Do you need a drivers license for riding electric scooter?
I will take your advice.
Fantastic video! Thanks very much.
3:35 what u said?
The peripheral vision is great
like riding with super mario
I so much love it ....but that will be later🤔🤔🤔🤔
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you dont want snowboarding helmets because they're meant to be hit multiple times instead of single hits
You need to slow, move to the middle of the lane, and check EVERY intersection as you go through them. People can't see you in the bike lane and you're gonna ride a hood one of these days.
I am pilot tooo , loving my scooter and scooter "SMS" (Safety Management System)
Rule #1 do not park or store you're Scooter on white carpeting !
Also don’t roll it around your house or apartment unless you don’t mind having dirty black feet 👣
Nice video but you talk to fast and weak :D hard to hear what you are saying
My custom scooter is a disco scooter cops don't like it I get tickets all that time 34$
I keep my speed at 20 kmph
Yeah because just like a bicycle they want a red light at the back, and a white light at the front. Similar to vehicles…
U NEVER stand with feet side by side!! Never ever ever
I do sometimes when going slower
My quad gets soar after a while with my foot back on the foot mount thing on my Apollo Ghost
Seems to me as really Effing Stoopid to run on roads with cars in traffic. BUY a Real Scooter or Moto IF you must do that.
My commute is 15-16 miles one way, and 80% on fully separated bicycle trails. Thank you for your suggestion, but you’re assuming I don’t own a motorcycle already, which I do. Being forced to drive on roads 100% of the time isn’t as fun, and is more dangerous imo, with people texting from their heavy cars.