The car is TOO fast! IE Stage 1 vs Stage 2 Audi S3 Review
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- Опубліковано 14 лип 2024
- In this video I break down the differences i've experienced after going from stage 1 to stage 2 on my 2020 Audi S3 with Integrated Engineering, and whether or not I think you should do it.
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Stage 1 review: • IE Stage 1 Audi S3 / T...
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Current mods:
IE cold air intake
IE turbo inlet pipe
IE catted downpipe
IE stage 2 91 octane ecu tune
IE tcu tune
Res delete
Aodhan AH-X wheels, 18x8.5 +35
black emblems
badgeskins
0:00 - Quick highway pull
0:06 - Intro
3:04 - Sound discussion
4:26 - Cruising around in comfort
5:13 - Switching into sport mode
8:25 - Highway pull
9:18 - Power discussion
13:15 - This car is so fun
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What you're essentially saying about the power band going from stage 1 to stage 2 is that stage 2 has a significantly stronger mid range torque band. For me, when I went from stage 1 to stage 2, I thought the power difference was VERY noticeable. Like you said, the car gets into boost faster , and you feel that nice torque surge immediately and the engine just wants to stay in that sweet power band where the car just keeps pulling and pulling REALLY hard, especially in SPORT/DYNAMIC. I don't know about IE tuning but 034 's stage 2 tune is fantastic, very linear and very predictable - No dead spots, just a very healthy running engine. With stage 2 / 93 octane Im at just below 400 BHP and 420 FT/LBS torque and it's the torque in stage 2 that is so satisfying . I really love my stage 2 S3 now, it's perfect.
how has your car held up reliability wise and fuel efficiency?
Really good man! Definitely a significant change in sound. From the video, I could even notice a difference in comfort mode, compared to mine at least which has only stage 1 and no bolt-ons
yeah for sure! there's definitely a difference in comfort, but it's not overwhelming at all - just more rumble when cruising around which is perfect.
My only issue is the raspy sound at higher rpm, but i'm pretty confident the vibrant resonator will clean it up and hopefully will be the final setup for me (catbacks are super expensive and a lot of them are just too loud for me with the downpipe installed)
Hey Spooky, just watched the Stage 1 and Stage 2 videos ... really enjoyed them ... great explanation of the benefits, etc. Considering picking up an S3 as my next car so will be looking forward to future videos.
Love to hear it! I’ll try to start posting again soon, life gets busy sometimes haha but you’ll love an s3 for sure, it’s such an amazing all around car even in it’s stock form.
Thanks im contemplating stage 2 for my s3 i was wondering if it's worth it ive been stage 1 for about a year now and your vid has made everything clear thanks i had a tuned ls2 with 450 hp in my senator which was probably same engine in your camaro
You’ll love stage 2 for sure! I had a 19 ss, which has the LT1, but not too far off.
the camaro still pulled harder than my s3 on stage 2 but around town driving the s3 has it beat for sure haha
Great video man. The question EVERYONE has at Stage 1, " should i go stage 2 ". I am currently in this boat. However, i am tuned with 034 Motorsports. Their jump to Stage 2 with DP only adds about 10HP with the tune. I didnt realize IE adds like 50 HP more? Seems like a lot. Still not sure what to do though lol
thanks man!
with IE for the facelift s3 models (2019-2021) they were able to squeeze another 25-30hp (91/93) for their stage 2 tunes vs the pre facelift years
overall imo stage 2 was worth it but stage 1 is 100% the better value because of the power gains you get for the money vs the additional power you gain from stage 2
Thanks for listing the mods list. I couldn’t find badgeskins so I decided to go with Lamin-x Protective Films. Less than $20 a set, let’s see how they work out
Let me know how they turn out!
Quick tip! If you want your valves to be open all the time, you can disconnect the cable located near your exhaust tips on both sides! This will leave the flaps open even below 3000 RPM
thanks for the tip! you can also do it with an ODB11 i believe, i'm opting to keep it as is just so i can turn the volume down when i want to haha
@@JayChesterman I bet you'll be happy with a resonator back in. It'll quiet down a lot, no rasp. But, it'll be too quiet then. Yesterday, I did the OBD11 version of "valves open" on an IE DP, OE resonator, OE exhaust. It's a nice change, a little extra in the rpms that I'm using 90% of the time. Try it out before considering a full exhaust. Also, my "start" button pulses now :) Among other things, one was for my dog, too. Let's me lock the car while it's running, climate control going.
@@justingallagher4864 i ended up going with a vibrant resonator, i hated it when i had it installed initially but it's growing on me
the volume is good, its tame when driving normally and opens up when you're on the throttle in sport, but my issue is it's just too muffled sounding now
@@JayChestermanIt's so hard to make our cars sound good. When I did my first cold start on the downpipe, I actually laughed it sounded so bad to me. You came from an SS 1le, gosh so much car, and I came from a factory stroker V8 with ITBs. So yeah. That. I love the car, it's dope. My dog likes it, too - the turbo whistle helps her prep for the torque. She rides it out pretty well now. Dope dog, too.
Edit: I've grown to really like the sound of the car, and those valves open at the back cinched it for me. Ya know, until they don't.
@@justingallagher4864 yeah i'm definitely going to give the open valves a try at some point, the 1le was a blast for sure but as an overall daily driver the s3 has it beat haha especially at stage 2
yes, audi content creator in ontario🙌🏽
Winter is coming though 😆
I am IE Stage 1 2024 Audi S5 Sportback. Going Stage 2 IE after the downpipe, cold air intake and intercooler arrives. I did not do a res delete to my stocks, and I did choose for the IE ProCore downpipe which is high flow but with 400 CPSI (which translates to a much fuller exhaust note) as compared the the cast performance downpipe with 200 CPSI. Hence, I am hoping this overall setup will translate to a classy exhaust note and over-run crackles which wont be annoying.
it's going to sound incredible don't worry haha that turbocharged v6 is an amazing engine and sounds great even stock, you're going to love it!
@@JayChesterman 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
@@JayChesterman I saw your other video where you changed the crackle to noncrackle version. This convinced me to get the crackle tune instead. ua-cam.com/video/TTWzwiEIdLs/v-deo.html
@@sujitroutray1 the great thing about the IE tune is it's really easy to flash back and forth between crackles and no crackles too, so you can turn it on and off as you please
@@JayChesterman Oh yeah. By the way, flashing at a parking lot was dope. I always do it in my garage with the battery charger on
The build is super clean. Man I can’t wait to get my A3 tuned kinda stuck between IE,Unitronic or EQT
Thanks man! You’re going to love the tune on your A3 for sure, I went with IE for my
Intake and inlet originally because the local performance shop had recommended them, and the mobile flashing option was really enticing for me.
Whichever you go with you’ll be happy I’m sure when it came to tuning.
EQT is better in my opinion for resell value. More on the expensive side but the COBB with the tune holds value
@@Yan-st8cn EQT is a great option, Diego Arias here on youtube has been running with them since he first tuned his s3 and is now running a big turbo 500whp build tuned by EQT
i opted to go with IE because all of the other parts i've purchased have been through them, so i figured i'd go for a full IE build.
i do see a downside in terms of upgrade path from here though if i ever do decide to go bigger turbo, the IE stage 3 turbo kit doesn't yield huge gains over my current stage 2 setup and it'd be super expensive to do, so not really worth it from my point of view
I run eqt on my stage 2 gti and I love it
@@nick.mk7 that’s probably such a blast to drive haha
love the car my dream car
thank you! i've had it for a year and a half and still smile every time i get in, it's such a great overall daily driver.
You'll get one. Start saving up now!
bro 460 ft/lbs?!? isnt that more than a stage 2 RS3? thats wild man. i aint gunna lie after that video of yours i watched the other day these S3s have been on my mind 😂 m had me lookin at older RS3s cause theyll be in my price bracket for my next car... but maybe an S3 is the way to go.
It’s most likely lower but that’s what IE advertises for the stage 2 91 octane tune, my car is probably really close to a stock RS3 right now for 0-60 and 1/4 mile
IE stage 2 RS3 is advertised at 505hp / 537 ft/lbs torque on their 91 stage 2, it’s a whole new ball game 🤣
if I had rs3 money I’d definitely have an rs3 haha
I’m also going to get my car dynod at some point, im on a waiting list with a local dyno shop and they said it’ll probably be a 2 month wait but I’ll put up a video when I get it done showing the real dyno numbers
Hey Spooky, Amazing Car! How's she holding up now?
thank you! car is holding up great - absolutely no issues at all so far, i'll be making content again soon now that the winter is over
i'm going to be putting up a review of how the cars been as a daily driver for the last 7 or so months at stage 2
i am from Ontario and just bought a 2015 S3 with low Km's a few weeks ago just finnished getting all maintenance done plugs, fluids now to start collecting parts for stage 2 over the winter and hit the drag strip in the spring...where did you get the downpipe installed?
love the name man haha and are you in the GTA? i'm about 30-40 mins north
i've been getting all my work done at a vw/audi shop in Newmarket called eco wagens, super knowledgable guys and fair pricing, they did my downpipe
we should hit the strip together in the spring! one of my friends has been trying to get me to go (he's got an apr stage 2 golf r) but it's over 2 hour drive from me so i haven't been able to make the trip yet
you're going to love stage 2 though, eco wagens recommended i get a one step colder plug and i went with the rs3/rs7 ones, there's some controversy around them but they told me if i have any issues as a result of the plugs their insurance will pay for the repairs (including a blown engine if that were to happen)
@@JayChesterman thanks i just changed the name from Canadian Coyote as i was in the 5.0 mustang world for the last 7 years...i live northeast of Toronto in Kawartha lakes and i was just in Newmarket on monday getting the DSG, Haldex, rear diff fluids and filters serviced at Garage Auto sports...i will keep following the channel and let you know when i am hitting TMP in the spring be good to have more Audi's/VW's join forsure! great content btw keep it up!.... looks like you are really enjoying the stage 2.
@@SleeperS3 I came out of an ss 1le camaro before the s3 haha but I’m loving the stage 2, the car feels perfect now! still feels really close to stock when just cruising in comfort and the power is there when you want it
Hey. New to the MqB community. Can you say what bolt ons are required for IE’s stage 2?
intake and downpipe are required. they recommend an intercooler as well but i don't have one yet and you're most likely good without one unless you're in a super hot climate and/or planning to track the car.
What’s the next mod plans ?
I would recommend IE intercooler
IE intercooler is going to happen in the spring I think! I also want to do a front lip and rear diffuser to finish up the exterior
When you go to Stage 2, will a car like this pass the local required smog test? Or do you have to back it down to stock again to pass a smog test?
I’m not sure unfortunately, here in Canada where I’m at we dont need to do emissions testing anymore
I just bought a 2019 S3 also in ontario. I still have warranty on it will any of the mods you have void that?
Congrats on the car man! any tune is going to void the warranty, you should be ok with an intake/turbo inlet but anything that flashes the ecu will void warranty.
There is something called a piggyback tune that you can run and most likely be ok with warranty, but you'd have to pull it off the car any time you go to the dealer for services etc.
JB4 is the most popular with this platform, it's got pretty impressive gains as well from what i know.
I'm planning to do a video breaking down the mods i have and things to consider like warranty etc, so stay tuned!
@@JayChesterman Thank you, I love it so far but would like to do intake/turbo inlet and the res delete. Eventually tune it but I don’t want to void the warranty. Maybe I can at least do a piggyback for now
@@allennester6523 the intake, inlet and res delete will be a huge difference in driving experience from the stock sound - definitely a great starting point! keep me updated!
My 2019 A3 has 34k original miles on it. I still get regular services at the dealer. What happens when you bring it in for service? Are there any issues with having a tuned car?
if you still have warranty and you want to keep the warranty than I’d wait until it’s up, if you tune the car as soon as they plug it in at the dealer it’ll get flagged and void the warranty.
If it’s not under warranty though there’s no difference in service, but I would recommend doing services earlier than the reg maintenance schedule, ie do your oil changed a couple thousand miles sooner etc
@@JayChesterman is that because of the extra wear the engine will go through after the tune?
@@RichsRantMMAofficialchannel yeah, more output will be more wear but stage 1 has shown to be extremely reliable with regular maintenance, if my car has any issues I’ll be sure to make a video about it though 😄 these engines can handle a lot more power reliably
@@JayChesterman cool, thanks
Where did you get that air freshener ??
my gf got it on Etsy haha
Do I need and upgrade intercooler for the stage 2?
It’s recommended but not required, I don’t have one yet but if you live somewhere really hot you should probably do it
Nice video my man, but your going to have to go dyno the car to really make sure how many gains. A lot of these platforms inflate those numbers by a lot. Hope you do the dyno that way you can be for sure.
yeah agreed! I try to make a point to say it’s what IE is stating the numbers are, but real world is probably lower for sure
it works though, I bought the tune 🤣
I’m hoping they are at least close to those numbers my man! I have a 2017 S3 that I’m thinking of tuning stage 1 soon. I’ve done the MST turbo inlet upgrade with the cold air intake and APR coils which that alone I have noticed a big difference in the turbo punch. Look forward to seeing more of your content 👍
@@Mrkoolaid333 I’m actually going to try to book some dyno time soon, I’ll make a video when it happens.
But stage 1 completely changes the car man haha it’s night and day, you won’t regret it
Awesome thanks brother!
Best way is 1/4 times. Even dynos all read differently
to go stage 1 what do you need i have a 2016 s3 stock ?
you’ll need an intake and the stage 1 software from one of the tuners, if you just get the stage 1 ecu tune you’ll have to run the low torque tune, but if you purchase the DSG (transmission) tune as well you’ll be able run the high torque tune
@@JayChestermanthanks and for stage 2 ?
@@MiguelMendoza-re3nr stage two you need a downpipe and then the stage 2 tune, the dsg tune is required as well though, an intercooler is recommended but I don’t have one and havent had any issues
@@JayChesterman appreciate the help definitely want too go stage 1 here soon
@@MiguelMendoza-re3nr no problem man! and you’ll love stage 1 for sure, the car goes from a quick car to a fast car haha
Do you have draggy numbers?
no draggy yet, I’m planning to pick one up for the spring though
@@JayChesterman I'd love to know your draggy numbers when you get one 👍🏻
@@Kevin_MK7RSR I’ll definitely make a video when the time comes!
I’m looking at 2018 s3 ie stage 2 already on it with everything. Say is 400hp 426ftrq I’m looking for decent nice sport car and decent quick. Can has 64k and he asking 33k
Is that Canadian? Right now in my area (near Toronto in Ontario Canada) you can find low mileage 2020s for less than 33k USD, I’d prefer finding a well maintained one that’s never been tuned and mod it myself, just for a bit more peace of mind, but that’s just my opinion
a stage 2 s3 is plenty quick though haha and I came from a 455hp/tq v8 Camaro
@@JayChesterman that is here in us Colorado local to me. Says has all work done and info on it that’s a 2018 if look up 2020 here a lot more money
I personally would stay away from ANY tuned S3. You dont know how beat up it is, how hard it was driven. Buy one stock, never tuned, and do it yourself.@@BrendanDalponte
@@xxsekoxx yes I understand that but also save a good amount of money
Bro go for the AWE switch patch exhaust it sounds amazing check some of my shorts or videos if you like, I'm still deciding to go stage 2 with IE I'm loving stage 1 HT right now with it I'm worries about the sound I prefer a deeper tone to it
your car looks great man! and that exhaust sounds incredible, i have heard having a catback with a downpipe can be too loud so keep that in mind when you eventually go stage 2
i actually think the vibrant resonator i have now would be a perfect match with that awe switch path, it's just a matter of spending the money now haha i'm heading into winter here now where i live so i'll wait until spring to decide what to do