Is 3D Printing Miniatures For Me? | Lizard Looks
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- Опубліковано 13 січ 2024
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Turns out i can't generate a commision link but here's the stuff they sent me anyway:
PRINTER:
store.creality.com/uk/product...
WASHING CURING STATION:
store.creality.com/uk/product...
RESIN:
store.creality.com/uk/product...
HALF THE SIZE BUT HALF THE PRICE, STILL WITH ALL THE DETAIL:
PRINTER:
store.creality.com/uk/product...
WASHING AND CURING STATION:
store.creality.com/uk/product...
STL FILES FOR THE MINIS:
www.myminifactory.com/users/D...
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Couple of things from a 3d printing vet (been printing for 10+ years and ran a 3d printing company for 5yrs) that I haven't seen mentioned.
1. 3D printing isnt an addition to your miniature hobby, its a hobby in itself. It isnt plug and play, there are so many variables and you really need enough space to print and clean. And you need a seperate room for it. Don't put it in your living room, hobby room or bedroom, see point 2.
2. This shit is toxic, make no mistake. Lizard mentioned gloves, thats the bare minimum, invest in a good respirator, not just a facemask, that's not enough. You only get one set of lungs in this life! There isn't enough research yet on the long term effects of resin, right now it's sort of in the early asbestos stage. We weren't aware yet how much cancer it would cause long term. Treat this the same, especially the IPA with resin in it. Those fumes are gnarly. Can't stress enough, don;t cheap out on your lungs and get a respirator
3. Don;t fall for the carbon filters they sell you. They lessen the smell. But smell is not the same as toxic fumes. Just because you can't smell it, doesn't mean its not dangerous. And like before, the main culprit is your vat of IPA once resin builds up in it.
4. This shit is very toxic to the environment, don;'t just throw it in the sink or flush it down the toilet. Properly dispose of it, best is to put your IPA vat outside in the sun, let it evaporate and the resin inside cure. Onced hardened it can go in the garbage. Same with your supports, cure em, chuck em in the trash.
There is probably more, but seriously, PROTECT YOUR HEALTH. Resin printing is not for people that lack common sense. Once you're safe its an awesome hobby and you can print the most amazing shit!
@LizardofDoom Would love a pin mate :) let's keep people safe!
I really do appreciate you showing when things go wonky and how you fix it them. There's not enough of that.
Great video!
Thank you man like I’ve said before if I cut that out there’d be no content on this channel 😂
@@LizardofDoom and we definitely can't have THAT!!
3D printing is awesome, its like having your own toyshop at home being able to print out what you want and more importantly at whatever size you need, have fun bud 🙂
Thank you man I’m really looking forward to see what I can get out of it 🙂
You forgot to add "how many times you want"
That's what a lot of GW purists seem to forget too easily, nothing stops you from printing a full 1st company of terminators...
@@spuriusligustinus4509 very true
I would love to see the painting progression of King Kong in armor!!!
5/5 Lizards
got a couple of vids lined up but will get to starting it later in feb :)
Hi other Max, if you don't want to spend yuuuge amounts of money on isopropyl alcohol, when your tank is starting to get dirty, pour it into empty coke bottles and leave them on the windowsill for a few days (here in Australia) but probably closer to a few weeks over there in the sunny UK. It'll cure out all the resin in the alcohol and then you can filter the alcohol and use it again. Also, resin does not stick to silicone, so silicone mats and funnels are bigly! Also when your FEP wears out and starts sticking too hard and failing prints, you can put a bit of PTFE dry lubricant on it to get it to work for a last few prints while you wait for the new FEP to arrive (because you did not pre-order it and you need to print something for a deadline)
Also, for folks who want to spend more to start up with and less in the long run, DLP printers use LASERS and MIRRORS instead of an LCD screen that will burn out after ~1000ish hours whereas DLP printers last closer to 10,000. That said, in both cases you can just replace the LCD/Laser Emitter.
Some really good knowledge and advice thank you other Max!
That giant kong model looks epic!
Looking forward to that painting series.
I do too, it’s going to be a bit of a passion project
Apologies for the audio alignment error towards the end of the video! It goes back to normal after about 20 seconds.
It's handy to keep a little supply of the removed supports (washed and cured). If you need to do a vat clean, stand one of them in it first, run the clean, then the support becomes a little handle that you can use to help peel the layer out.
Great tip !
If you save your larger supports/raft you can put that in the corner of your vat when you run the tank clean feature. The cleaning layer cures around it so it can act as a handle to peel up the layer.
Very clever! Great tip!
Ay thats a good plan, no more rummaging in the tank with gloves.
I use a silicone dog food mat off of amazon as a place to catch my resin while doing work like removing things from my build plate, pouring resin back into bottle, and removing failed print. works great, easy to clean up with a paper towel and some isopropyl.
That's a great idea!
That Kong miniature is magnificent and yep, I for one would love to see how you go about painting that beauty. Great stuff, thank you )O(
You’re in luck 😂
What if King Kong was a Bloodthirster of Khorne? | Bananas for the Banana God
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@@LizardofDoom Yeah, just found the video. That's my viewing sorted tomorrow evening 👍
Both of my brothers have bought 3D printers, and while one of them isn't overly enamoured with his, the younger one says it's the best hobby purchase he's ever made. I've only had him print me some bits for conversions (heads, shields, alt weapons, that kind of thing), but he's printed himself literally hundreds of proxies to use in games. He even stole an old lab-coat from his work to wear while using it. His only regret is not getting a bigger one to print terrain and monsters in, so I'd say it's a pretty worthwhile investment, but I'm biased because I get free bits.
Oh damn, sounds like your brother is Doctor Goop in that lab coat 😂
But seriously, incredibly glad I have this machine!
That print looks excellent, looking forward to seeing it come together when you paint it!
I’m really going to deep dive in to everything on it and enjoy it 🙂
You are now the God of Goo !
All powerful and a little bit sticky!
Get yourself another sealed tank for prewashing your prints before you throw them in the wash station. Just dip them and swish around a bit. Also remove the supports before the main wash. Your main iso tank will last much, much longer.
Good tips!
You dont really need to do the full vat drain to clean it up as all should be bonded to the bottom layer. Keep hold of some old supports. pop one in the corner. Then do the vat clean. The bottom layer will bond to the support and you can pull the support up along with the sheet of the resin.
If things get really wrong, buy a box of 100-200ml syringes (as once they have been used once, they dont really keep unless you really wash the sh!t out of it. They are cheap and you should only need it them once in a blue moon. That way you wont need to use those funnels that are messy.
Also get some silicone sheets and use them as your "clean up" area. Its wipeable and also if any resin cures on it, it can be picked/flaked off.
Also if you have good results with a certain resin. dont change the brand/type without expecting a long time of dialling in settings, its not a forgiving process.
good knowledge :) thank you!
I think they're going to have to develop the technology a bit further - to a nespresso level of simplicity - before I would be tempted.
It’s a little bit fiddly but I’d say it’s not a million miles from an espresso just don’t drink the goo 😂
When you tank clean stick a bit of old cured support on the corner so you just pull on that to bring up the big old film of mistakes. Don't need to empty the tank this way.
Good tip 🙂
I have only been able to get into warhammer because of my 3d printer. I love the process and appreciate the value proposition. I'm an Astra Militarum man, so ive saved hundreds of dollars haha!
Thank you for the excellent video!
For an army like that this is the only way I’d consider it.
Thank you for watching the video 🙂
That giant Kong is amazing. I couldn’t see any print lines at all. I’ve ordered printed bits online that weren’t nearly this clean.
My honest opinion is that this is an incredibly good printer and they even do a smaller one that’s half the price and half the size but seems to be the same quality.
That King Kong series will be awesome! And I can already imagine the kitbashing galore you'll be able to do with your other projects now
I’m really looking forward to giving the ape my full effort. And you’re right it’s opened so many doors for kittens bashing!
@@LizardofDoom Oh no, not the kittens! You monster ;)
@@pieterschillemans5960 😂 best autocorrect
That is the printer I am saving up for. I have a Creality 06 and I love it. With all the crazy things going on with curtain miniature companies 3D printing is the best option. I disagree with it being expensive because the standard Harlot Mage is less than a starter box like Leviathan or Old World.
I think if you want an expansive army these days a printer is actually the cheap option
@@LizardofDoom I recently purchased a set of STL files for a Egyptian themed undead army for $42 USD and its a whole army. Pretty much ANYTHING you want for a Tomb Kings army is currently inside my computer and they blow "that company's" sculpts out of the water!
@@samanthalacroix2687 I for one can’t believe they just released the old sculpts again 😂
The only way I’d consider them is to 3D print an army
I think it's important to know 3D printing isn't for everyone but everyone should have access to it whether it be owning your own or having a friend/company that can print for you.
I've been printing stuff for years since the elegoo mars came out and how far printers have come since then thinking that my new elegoo Saturn 1 a few years ago was a the bee's knees to now you can get bigger better machines for cheaper.
Yes I've printed titans and stuff but I feel the best prints are either fully IP free custom models for proxying or bitz for kit bashing.
I often go through cycles of cranking prints out to then I have a fail and like now my Saturn has sat dormant since before Christmas.
Aye this has been a good experiment, I think I’m going to print a lot of monkeys. Definitely for me.
Amazing details from that printer!
Looks more like a Ultimasaurus skull pauldron but definitely triceratops-adjacent.
lol.
Beautiful mini though, can’t wait to see you tear into it.
It is a gorgeous mini, I’m really going to take my time with it!
So this is your Kong Mon'Keigh? 😅
You could say that yes 😂
Did you jump right into the print or did you do the test print supplied by the company?
I jumped right in to the print, I was too excited for monkeys 😂
He ALWAYS jumps in, without fail or hesitation
@@mattbuckley6928 insert “Shia LaBeouf DO IT” meme here
Reject grimdark, go back to monke!
Ooo ooo banana
Welcome to the dark side
The mighty goo wizard rises, ready to unleash his goo upon the world... yeah no this just sounds like one big euphamism, sorry mate
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Hi, I’ve been printing for a while and safety comes first. I didn’t see what mask you were using, among other things.
If one is not properly protected, then at some point one cannot print anymore. It’ll cause a sort of strong allergic reaction sooner or later.
I shall don my mask next time, the printer itself does have an excellent extraction fan 🙂
@@LizardofDoom when the printer is curing the layers, for sure the fan is putting in work. Post cure releases a bunch of VOC’s as does washing because, well, IPA.
Hardware stores should have half masks with the brown filters. Stay safe, man.
as someone who is heavily into 3d printing because I cannot afford actual kits, may I recommend some STL makers? it's fine if you wanna go out there and discover stuff for yourself
also because people don't wanna hear this: a 4k printer is great and costs $150-$200 US. that's less than a combat patrol and people cannot tell that my miniatures are 3d printed besides that they're alt sculpts. you don't have to spend $800 on a printer, that is a myth
by all means recomend away :)
@@LizardofDoom just for some that I personally enjoy, quartermaster 3d for guard, pipermakes for tau adjacent stuff, and anvil industry for modular minis
@@RenMomoDotPog good to know thank you, I’ll look them up 🙂
Redmakers, the Makers Cult, Red Pilgrim Miniatures, Marta_Punkgirl, One Page Rules (their Saurians range will blow your mind) and so, so many more...
3d printing terrain. Yes.
My experience is that 3d printing isn't as good as the injection plastic without spending way too much on the machine
This one is a little costly at £470 but they do a smaller version which prints in the same quality for £250, which is the price of six boxes of space marines and a character. Not bad.
@LizardofDoom Humm. Considering The Old World And Games Workshops' support of legacy factions (or lack thereof), 3D printing might be the only way i'm going to grow my Chaos Dwarfs
I own a humble Elegoo Mars 2 Pro (old model now) and some of the SM that I print can't be distinguished from GW models.
Your opinion was valid for old printers before the Mars 2 and equivalents but now it mostly depends on the quality of the sculpt.
@@spuriusligustinus4509 good to know
big monke
Ooo ooo
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3d figures with swords will break.
This resin actually has a nice bit of flex to it compared to the older brittler type.
you can try flexible resin
I use Elegoo ABS-like and have not had this issue. There are lots of different resins out there that are quite durable.