Here’s Why My E55 AMG Lost Horsepower On The Dyno & Why I Don’t Care + I Bought A New Car!
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
- My E55 AMG has more mods than last year yet put down less horsepower and torque on the dyno. Here's why and I bought a new car!
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How much did your babies mamma's, uncles, brothers dog's E55 with a blown engine make on the dyno? Or just your E55, haha.
4000 Lama-thrust, or 6000 Donkeykicks :P
Why not just do another pull on the same dynojet so you can see the total percentage gained easily?
1,300 catfish power to the wheels at 1,250 ft-lb of jackass torque
All what I know is I leave everyone behind when I launch my CL55 at any light!
This is such an epic comment, you have no idea. Always someone that someone knows or is related to.
FINALLY!!!! E55 content is the best content
Those rims are actually beautiful af
I totally agree 👍
What makes rims beautiful? Is it the size the color I want to know what’s good and what’s bad
@@highpreistgang it's all personal preference
They match the car. Post 2005 it seems that the factory wheels are better matched than whatever Joe goofball puts on. They give a shit, charge huge numbers for the upgrade or the package, and real designers match them to the car, the stance, everything.
The second you said 407k miles I thought e39 m5. The sound clip at end confirms it.
AK540i i’m a big MB fan but an E39 M5 is cooler than all of Alex’s other cars combined. It’s my dream sleeper
I immediately knew it had to be an E39 M5 because I’ve seen a fs on FCP Euros insta with over 400k miles and they’re generally decent cars. Plus the manual tip. As I knew there wasn’t going to be a manual E60 with over 300k, let alone over 400k.
sound clip you refer to is of a lazy v8 certainly not an m5
But did the M5 have a decrease in power output partway through it's production as per OJ's clue?
@@DiscoFang yah. This tidbit is the only thing that's making me doubt the e39 m5 pick
E39 M5. Sound clip at the end confirms it! Nice pick up you’ll love it!!
You're not wrong... that does sound exactly like an E39 M5.
Seems Legit.... Great Works like Always,
Pulls After Pulls, This car is a Brute..... What a Consistency!!!!!!
Why don't you name the E55 in honour to the AMG employee who built its engine?
That actually is a damn good idea
If he is even able to pronounce its name lol
Before he names the car, he should learn how to strap the car to the dyno.
Your videos inspired me to get an e55. Went with the sl55 TB/snout,same Chinese LT headers, 83mm pulley + cooling mods. No water/meth. Tune is dialed in. Car made 508rwhp/565rwtrq. On the 2nd full pull nearly back to back. Ambient air was 63* peak IAT was 138...
Love your videos Alex. I'm a lifelong Benz freak, really enjoy working on them. Good luck on your return trip!!
Definitely a BMW V8, probably an E39, but to be an M5 has to have an aftermarket exhaust as they sound different from stock.
The E39 is an awesome car...
Great content! Keep up this co-op!
Chilling the fuel makes a huge difference under boost and cools the air also. You will not be able to see a change in temps on the gauge but between the injector and the combustion chamber will drop significantly yielding more power and will help prevent any kind of detonation. If you are going to keep running the smaller pulley.
Enjoying the content & info as always!
Congrats on the E39 M5!
could be
With it's 3rd engine 🤭
What now?
Here is another thing you can do on valve covers you got 3 breathers for oil evaporation. This dumps hot dirty oil vapors in to your throttle body. Plug the inlets up at the throttle and use nice long hoses placing them back of the engine letting vapors vent outside like old school muscle cars. Not only will your sc be cleaner it will also run cooler also I never got any oil drip just make sure hoses are long enough so that you don't smell any vapor
I live in Aurora IL and work for the NAPA auto parts distribution center in Naperville. I love going to Iron Gate (Fluid MotorUnion). They are awesome people and have really nice cars!! Nice video!
Great video!
Several runs, clear video of all gauges, etc.
I would love to have seen the AFR overlay on the graphs. But UA-cam does a good job at 25% playback speed.
At 06:10 the AFR dips down to 10.54 at 130 mph and 6400 rpm.
There are 2 runs that sets of alarm bells with me. In both of those the AFR bounces, which is never good.
But as you say it's a tuned car so the tune is probably off a little.
But I would look into it and have the fluctuations ironed out. Just because it bounces way to much under max load.
Good luck with your new project car! =)
Greetings from Sweden.
I love your E55 that is so perfect I can't see you get anything better than that car
Your E55 sounds amazing man
Hi I'm new to your channel
Just get a killer chiller. Start off cold doesn’t peak as high due to starting off with low IAT’s and call it a day. I know it shuts off the KC when WOT, you got plenty of cold water and just keep your primary HE. I did what your set up is now just doesn’t do enough.
I think you may have a misconception concerning "boost". More boost does not necessarily mean more power. Boost is really a measurement of the difference in air flow the motor is "pumping" vs the amount of air flow your supercharger is producing. The excess air from the supercharger creates a back pressure which we commonly refer to as boost. Exhaust mods increase the ability of the motor to flow air and while boost pressure may lower you are capable of making more power if you are flowing more air. If boost drops off with an unrestricted inlet as engine rpm increases, that is a tell tale sign the supercharger volumetric efficiency (air cfm in vs. air cfm out) is dropping off. The Twin Screw (and YES the E55 has a Lyschom twin screw supercharger NOT a Roots Type) produces approx. the same boost at any engine rpm. Every revolution of the Twin Screw delivers the same cfm or liters per revolution i.e. 2L per revolution at 2000-6000. That’s why these superchargers are referred to as “positive displacement.”
Big ups to you Alex! Which video is the side view mirror swap?
Alex you should see if the clutch delete pulley does anything for the car? I also wonder if you have ever considered a supercharger upgrade.
Lovin the vids brother .. specially the Diesel ones .. keep 'em coming
Uploading on my birthday sure is a nice present!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!
Hey! Very unrelated comment but what in depth Mercedes scan tool do you recommend? What do you think about icarsoft mb II?
Your E55 is just perfection and goal af 😍😍❤️❤️❤️
I hear you alex, i raced my cls55 just to see what it does, i felt like the computer pulled a lot of timing on mine, my IATs were at 145 degrees, thats just with the upgraded pump, engine temps were in the 199-200s, on a hot las vegas weather 98 degree day, air density was around 5000ft, i did 3 runs and they were all in the 13.2x at 105.8 mph with a crappy 2.001 60ft, not really disappointed compared to the rest of the other cars , but the point is heat is our big enemy on this engines, i need to split the cooling system for sure.
Hi. Can you do a video on a R230 sl55? I know it shares the engine with the e55 but i need to know more about it. Currently owning a w208 clk55. Thanks
I think you need a good tune and a little more boost, somewhere around 15psi and you should be happy with that!!!
I love that steering wheel did you have it wrapped or did you buy it like that? if so where did you buy it?
What kind of rims are this on the E55? I’m looking for new rims for my CLS55 and I think these would fit perfectly.
Damn!! Does that thing sound good!! Especially when pulling!!
What was ambient temp during runs? Sorry for all the questions I’m having problems with my iat on wot run getting up to 165-175f full 3rd pull
Love the blower whine💪💪
That silver e55 amg that you did a Dyno comparison to a low mileage one
The e55 works for me. Lol I don't name machines 🤣
400k miles and my first guess was an air-cooled 911, but if the soundclip means anything there's no way. I know they made a change to fix oil consumption problems during production, but afaik they never changed the official power ratings, though the changes undoubtedly reduced power somewhat.
E39 M5, guessing by the sound clip at the end and the fact that you were like "I'm not saying it's not a BMW" lol
Intake temp is known to be a big deal, as there used to be a Moroso Cool Can the fuel line would run through but not that much help as the volume of fuel is about 1:11.5 to air. So cool the air. Obviously. But the differences can be astounding! My Magnum RT is another car altogether when the atmospheric conditions are right. Chilly days with cool maybe 50% humidity at anywhere between say 40 degrees and about 55 or so and the thing feels like a different engine. Summer time heat soak, it becomes a dog, no bottom end. But winter time not too cold because the humidity drops, and the tires will smoke from a 15 mph roll till the upshift. One time last week I cleared the computer and I don’t know why but it seemed to just explode. I’ve never had it shift into second and keep smoking the tires. The back end was loose at about 45 mph car speed(70 wheel speed) and I was smiling like that first lay with a new lady friend. You know what I mean. Smiles for miles. Smoke em if you got em.
Hey Alex, any suggestions on w212 love the AMG but looking into e550 was looking for a 2008 but left a dealer here in the Atlanta area that has a 2010. If you could send me a link on what to look for. Going through your UA-cam looking for a video. Thanks
Hey Alex how’s it going. Another great video. !! 460hp + on the dyno killer with the 400k+ milles is awesome 👏, the paint looks killer.... I want the car. Lol. I’ll take it off your hands. Lol. Keep up the great vids. - Jason
Thanks Jason!
Have you ever checked out the FI Interchillers? Maybe they could sponsor you :)
The AMG V12 is reduced in power, but in torque and not HP. The engine produces up to 1.300 NM torque, but is limted to 1.000 NM to protect the drivetrain. A drivetrain that could handle 1.300 NM would make the car to heavy.
It might have gotten more powerful bc the ME was Adapting the ignition angle to the lowered intake temp
I would like to know the measurements of that ice tank
I want to put it in c32amg
I checked vrp site but no demensions thanks
Had a SL55 that made 588 horsepower and 631 lb-ft of torque to the wheels on a Dynojet. This was with stock blower, 93 pump gas, no meth, no nitrous. The E55 looks great on the thumbnail 👍
what was done to it
My guess would be. 1994 Mercedes 500E..When Mercedes & Porsche collaborate this fine beast.My boss has this particular car. (This car is a monster)
Could slight loss of traction affect the numbers? Just curious. Over 500 ft/lbs of torque.....
Have you thought about a killer chiller for the e55 or something similar?
Correct me if I’m wrong, but it looks like I could be strapped down a little more/ doesn’t that affect the HP/TQ readings?
Does look dodgy, dunno if I'd like my car moving like that on a dyno but the place I use has a single roller setup so they are really well strapped down, maybe that colours my opinion.
Strapping a car down on the dyno for best result comes with some experience. The more power it makes the tigher you need to pull it down....otherwise it will usually end up with tire spin at the beginning of the run, especially if forced induction and end up recovering traction by redline. If you over tighten straps on a lower powered naturally aspirated vehicle you will reduce power due to increased friction. I've found that a good solution is to increase the traction on the roller rather than increasing load by tightening straps or adding straps. Napa belt dressing 1397 lightly sprayed on dyno rollers and tires after initial run gets most street cars hooked up.
12 hours: you're driving up from Montevideo or the car gets shipped over water. Hoping it's a 560 SEL
Hi Alex, may I have de model number of your Launch scaner that you appear holding it ? Thanks
The first runs it was climbing up on the front roller this gives you a higher number, you must strap it so it runs on both rollers
Lamborghini Countach? Just got myself an E55 thanks to your channel Alex, is an LSD worth considering as an upgrade in your opinion?
Yes
Hey Alex, why did you consider going to a different dyno? Ive always tried to stay in the same dyno as last time to try to keep the best reading for my gains/losses possible, i wouldnt really know just how much it would gain by switching and just like now it even read lower (even tho thats literally impossible, but thats my point). id consider myself a dyno nerd when it comes down to seeing an increase on a mod that was made to try to better conclude just how much better or worse it performs
Have you looked at your fuel pumps recently. Two AEM 340s work wonders
Do the vrpspeed 700 set up would be insane.
noticed your dash shows in MPH..for some reason my c180 kompressor in scotland uk only shows kmh even if you try and change it in the settings..really annoying..cheers for the video..
The local BMW repair shop here in Washington, UT has >>>THREE
what program for reading u use it is LAUNCH ?
Long tube headers make the engine run way more efficient so yeah you’re gonna loose boost pressure, I’ve had customers pissed off because their 76 pulley is only making 10lbs, even though it pulls way harder, obviously making more power, the internet is obsessed with numbers...sigh! One thing though you’re probably not gonna like that fixed pulley, it makes the engine way too aggressive as you’re pulling away in traffic, the drivability sucks to be honest not to mention it’ll make your blower sound like it’s chewing rocks but hey to each their own!
Shame you don’t have the original pulley but I’m sure there’s reliable documentation from non-dogs somewhere.
I bet just a modern ECU would do wonders for tuneability since you can control so many more variables.
BMW e39 m5 the only one with less power after the mid years production upgrades. Good choice
whats that handheld unit that ur using thx
You said BMW's dont make it to 400k miles, but there was a local E39 M5 around here with 397k not too long ago, and Atlanta just happens to be 12 hours from Chicago... Sound clip even sounds like an M5!
I guess you could say that the E55 is a.... Legit Street Car. 😁
i didnt know your e55 had quad zone clima
Good content btw Alex, keep going!
Is that a 2006 55
It's a 2003
lol the video title is hilarious i love it!
E39 epic choice I was really hoping you’d show yourself to have the two biggest Cahones on UA-cam by buying an e92/e60 m3/m5 right after the c63, the most popular “I’d love that car but it’s too scary” examples
Congrats on your e39 M5
I was waiting to see the fixed pulley run, what happened?
So long its a MB i keep follow your channel😉
Are tou running 100 % distilled water? Is that safe to do?
Could you imagine how much money would have been spent on a 407,000 mile BMW 😂🤣😂🤣
As a dieselnut, I am missing seeing content for your E320 CDI :( Would love you to buy a 2007 or newer OM642 diesel and talk about it's problems and if it is ever worth buying at any price, OR interview a fellow youtuber with the OM642 and talk about this topic. The rig with one that is darn unique as a family hauler is the R320 Wagon. You did go drive the gas version of this wagon, but could your wife ever be talked into a R320/R350 daily driver with the diesel? Love your channel. Look forward to Saturday Mornings to see your latest posts!!! You Rock!!!
That engine also landed in the 2007/2008 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland in the US, if she can't be talked into the R320/R350... It has a really good ride to it and can tow a rented travel trailer nicely since it has up to 7400 lbs capacity for the 4WD. jalopnik.com/at-12-000-might-this-2008-jeep-grand-cherokee-overlan-1823916813
Bmw m5 e39 over 400,000 miles and still running. I think in ohio or somewhere out east.
I guarandamntee the new car is a early 2000's Pontiac aztek. Why else would you take the BMW expert on the trip with you?
Alex’s m5! Welcome to the e39 club. Now you and i both have e55’s and e39 m5’s...
M5! I know that sound anywhere!
Any highway drone with this exhaust?
Do they do a larger crank pulley? That combined with the smaller s/c pulley you mentioned on getting should add up to even more boost.
yes, stock is about 154, max size with custom water pump pulley for fitment is 205
strong car lots of miles on it too. i made stock pulley power 461 on the dynamics 498hp on my dynojet my 122mph trap speed is more inline with the dynojet if i told someone at the track that knew cars my car makes 461hp and then i trap 122mph with a heavy car they would know my hp is off.
They were out of 72mm pulleys so I had to order a 74mm one. Now I know who got the 72mm before me :)
It shouldn't be difficult to determine which dyno is closer to being accurate - dyno a stock vehicle and compare to the known factory numbers. If you've got one dyno that's in the ballpark and another that's significantly lower or higher than where it should be, you know which one is more accurate.
I'd name it Black Pearl. Fits perfectly.
Why don't go for the AC connected to the heat exchanger and get crazy low Temps
Because that doesn't work this way, it would lower the Temps a bit, but not by much, the ac system is not that powerful really.
55 AMG power ! And the nick Black Demon ;)
Is it on Ogden in Naperville?
Alex, where are your EGR valves??
Hi Alex, how does one increase boost by changing pulleys, if the bypass valve opens at 0.8 bar . Thanks
Reduce pulley size at turbine or increase it at intake compressor, but you will get a bigger lag. To reduce lag the bypass would have to open up at first to increase spool up time and then shut after it is spooled up.
I have a 180mm pulley on the crank , complete exhaust system and tune and still 0.8 bar boost. I was hoping at least for 500hp
But got 421hp.
Perhaps a flash tune might be good for a few more...horses
Not sure about the factory power reduction due to a manual transmission, but I’m guessing a E60 M5?
Was Fluid ever out in plainfield at one time?
Enjoy your new Lexus LS
What wheels are those?
At the start when you said “400 thousand mile” I thought for sure it was the e55 you did a video on a couple of years back. Then you said manual transmission at the end so that is a no go!
Carbon Cinco has one with 400k miles + e39 m5 SO it might be his??
Love the baby momma, uncles, cousin and dog had more dyno power comment. HAHA
You’re loosing power because of the facelift bumper and mirrors. I heard those mods kill horsepower...