I'm a 56 yro F, 106lbs. I have been plant based my entire life. As an infant, my family tried feeding me meat based baby food and it made me vomit. The family Dr, said I would grow out of it and just feed me what would not make me sick. I subsisted on pb&j, cereal, pasta, baked potatoes and salad. At 17 my family took me back to the dr because they thought something was wrong with me even though I was not underweight for my height and an active teen. Turned out I am missing a digestive enzyme that breaks down animal proteins. I continue to thrive as a plant based adult. I have been bullied my entire life about how I eat. Just the other day, as I was leaving for my lunch break, a colleague said "ENJOY YOUR GRASS". I eat a significantly more diverse and balanced as an adult, but it took effort and a lot of self-educating. Thankfully it has become much more mainstream and trendy to be plant based in the world today.
Also, years ago, kids used to play RED LIGHT, GREEN LIGHT and have P.E. playing that game is like bringing out the hormone leptin .which takes appetite.. it makes them run hard, and then freeze... They dont need snacks after school Not hungry.. They waited for dinner.. 1/5 should be meat...not 1/4 or none Carbs should be at minimum
I too feel that being vegan/WFPB is much more freeing. I don’t have to decide if I am going to eat something or not. Is is vegan? Is it whole a food? Yesterday a client gave me two cookies from a chi-chi food place and I thanked her and gave them away to someone else as they weren’t vegan.
I think what these groups and doctors fail to realize is that they can be the ones who open the gate for a lot of these studies on these pediatric patients that are coming Into their facilities. Report success rates to and for these studies. Having an open mind, trying to implement subtle changes and educate these families on the benefits and further their resource outreach. Intervention medicine means informed consent, supporting their patients every atep of the way, having the patients' metabolic levels checked every 6 months, keeping open lines of communication and follow-ups on patient and family goals. Community, Healthcare, and Educational settings are our biggest audiences. Raising awareness and continuing to show up will be the biggest impact we can have on children and their families for and their future health and longevity. Thank you Chuck for always bringing amazing voices on the show. Thank you doc for your continued advocacy and shedding light on a sensitive and critical topic.
10:45 really sad it takes studies of people being ill to do this - because you need unwell people in order to have studies - and so they need to be ill to be studied. It's really unethical to me to rely on studies when we know mechanisms behind actions.
I was the ONLY heavy child out of 6 kids, and I was told pretty early in life (childhood) to go on "diets" or to avoid certain foods, or given diet advice by adults in our family. This led to me developing pretty serious and unhealthy habits with food and eating issues. In my thirties now, and STILL struggling with seriously disordered eating habits, even after I (thank God) stumbled upon the whole food plant based/vegan lifestyle and have been plant based for over 13 years now. Talking to kids about diet can be tough, can be a double edged 🗡️ when adults want to help but the kid becomes eating disordered. My hat's off to this doctor and many others who want to help and truly care and people, but it's not an easy task to know how to approach such vulnerable innocent children who don't understand what is happening to their own body.
Sadly down the road I see vegan kids eating as much junk even more actually. This is something Dr Barnard is ignorant to because he chooses to do so for other reasons
Even if there aren't any studies on children, kids are just little people. We are made the same way. So it makes logical sense that what works on an adult, would work on a child.
I thought so too until the doc went on to explain about getting enough nutrition/calories into a little tummy that is crowded with that good fiber! I learned a lot in this video!
Are there robust studies that demonstrate that gastric bypass surgery and drugs work long term in Obese children? Yet they are reluctant to teach calorie density to our children that only bring long-term health and wellness.
23:51 yes 'conditioning' younger generations. The issue is when we use the positive reinforcement like pavlov's dog. We're not dogs - why are we treating ourselves (as a society) so inhumanely - degrading ourselves to less than human?
22:50 there's only so much you can put on your plate. So obviously we're always limited. Someone who eats in one place is limited by the selection there. We're always limited, so I don't know the issue. But we can always fill our plates with the limited options too - like if you only have potatoes available - that's your meal. And as the Dr. said - we're supposed to be used to a starvation mode due to our ancestors with limited options - so it's not a big deal anyway to be limited.
In order to get the "proof" that the surgery works . . . wouldn't they need to do the surgery first then verify? And, changing the diet is so low risk. . .
I was in the bakery section of popular grocers' and it has the word HEALTHY on the packaging. It was oatmeal based. You don't get overweight overnight.
For kids I guess it would make sense to replace whole grains with refined, so white rice instead of brown, potatoes are fine, multigrain bread is fine, pasta of course. By not eating everything whole, kids can get more good calories without too much fiber, as long as they eat some veggies and fruit alongside those grains
That’s awesome. Thank goodness out here in Indonesia it’s not that bad yet but it’s probably would get there in the next 20-30yrs. Some pediatrician even recommend cheese & cow’s milk for infants at 6 months old.
Exactly why you need studies by unbiased doctors or people coming out themselves n speak if whole foods minimally processed like cows milk is bad or refined plant based baby formula will be. Good luck
By the way when there was no processed junk n communities who don't eat industry food thrive on cows milk n cheese. Just make sure plant based refined junk is not added to them
@@kundansaran8962 there’s no plant based refined anything around here that taste right. They all taste weird at least to me. Before there was processed crap, people here eat lots of veggies with sambal made with a bit of shrimp paste along with rice or cassava. Back then most people who haven’t got a lot of money but got a lot of kids, would only get to indulge in eating rich festive food when there were festivities or whenever there was someone threw party. These days everyday is festive day. It’s very much cause for concern.
@@kundansaran8962 well i don’t need it anymore. Both of my babies took after me and would only drink their mother’s milk. Now they’re both grown up and still eat their veggies just the way i fed them as a child. When my daughter didn’t wanna eat meat, i don’t make her eat it. I’ll let her eat what she wanted. When my son hated mcdonald’s chicken nuggets at his friends’ birthday parties i also allow him not eat things he hated, even the veggies he hated (which is only 1-2). He eats whatever else i cook. These days i cook veggies and rice and that’s what he’d eat along with shrimp paste chili sauce. We’re not vegan family but we eat mostly whole plant food like fruits, veggies & a whole lot of grains along with beans.
And check this out, in Los Angeles 15 years ago, entering into menopause, I went, for the only time in my life, to a psychologist for mood counselling. She had all this literature on the benefits of - milk!?!? A psychologist was advising people to drink milk. Good grief, first and last time I ever went to counselling. And guess what - I got through menopause with no medications or medical intervention (other than some acupuncture, which did help the several times I went). Why?? Because I have been meat- and dairy-free since I was 25 years old. Despite what shrinks or doctors - or family - would advise. By the way, none of my full-blooded sisters were as "lucky" as I have been with my health over the decades, and especially with menopause. They remain on the S.A.D. - Standard American Diet. Oy vey.
Very informative video, thank you. Instead of remarking to the doctor about how much more relatable his patients felt he was for losing 20 lbs and lowering his blood pressure, I would have liked to hear his experiences directly from the doctor. There is a strong push-back from people who don't want to believe it. Now 1 in five kids is obese - not fat, but obese. It is the new normal and people want to believe in those pills and don't have the guts to be different and don't have the gumption to learn something new. And sure as heck don't want to cook. They'd rather die than take their heads out of the sand. But never forget the elephant in the room when it coms to the medical industry: there is no money in counselling people on plant-based diets. Obviously some doctors, such s Dr. Ettinger here, are motivated by the truth. Read my lips: if they cure your hypertension through something so easy and simple, they just lost some future regular office visits and income from tests. Further, they would be telling their patients something the patients don't want to believe - please god anything other than give up cheeseburgers!! No pecuniary incentive, hard to do, will lose patients. Dr. Neal Barnard and his kind in the medical industry are saints. Just preaching the common-sense thing.
I wouldn’t doubt that the fast food industry also invest their profits into nursing homes and companies that produce medicine for diabetes and related disease caused by the very food that they serve. They’re setting us up like cattle instead it to be slaughtered , kept alive buying more and more medicine and needing more and more help from the very producers that put them there.💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Part of the confusion is the labels 🏷️ of theses diets …. Instead of understanding cause and affect people are just seeing labels 🏷️ If people understood over eating calories will eventually lead to intramyocellular lipids or plaque build up …………..its really simple to see, to just eat Whole Foods mostly plants And not a lot , basically just aim to get the essential nutrients some antioxidants and some prebiotics in every day 🤷🏽♂️
I cannot ask my kid to substitute a banana for the candy being given out to their classmates during school, I wish I could but it isn’t practical advise. I really need practical advise….holidays, school situations, extended family pressures.
It's wonderful to hear that there are doctors who dedicate their life to help children to lose weight. But I don't think plant based is the right choice for them. Their growing body needs much more protein than plants can offer. They should eat a lot of animal based foods to support their growing.
You know to get as much protein from Dal you need to way more of something that will cause other problems. This is why Indians balanced their protein intake from both plant and animal sources. Extremism will lead to other problems especially for kids and worse outcome will be them eating vegan junk because they will not get that satiety eating wfpbd. I guarantee this today
Not necessarily. Jane Esselstyn’s children were raised WFPB and all were elite athletes in high school. Plant chompers daughter has her own channel (can’t remember the name). She’s a mom who talks about feeding her young children WFPB. Lotos of research available children thrive on WFPB
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What a great doctor, more parents should consider what their children eat, problem solved. From Guyana.
I agree; grocery shopping is so much easier now that I mostly shop the produce section. That's one of my favorite thinbgs about wfpb :D
I'm a 56 yro F, 106lbs. I have been plant based my entire life. As an infant, my family tried feeding me meat based baby food and it made me vomit. The family Dr, said I would grow out of it and just feed me what would not make me sick. I subsisted on pb&j, cereal, pasta, baked potatoes and salad. At 17 my family took me back to the dr because they thought something was wrong with me even though I was not underweight for my height and an active teen. Turned out I am missing a digestive enzyme that breaks down animal proteins. I continue to thrive as a plant based adult. I have been bullied my entire life about how I eat. Just the other day, as I was leaving for my lunch break, a colleague said "ENJOY YOUR GRASS". I eat a significantly more diverse and balanced as an adult, but it took effort and a lot of self-educating. Thankfully it has become much more mainstream and trendy to be plant based in the world today.
Bananas and almonds, I never thought of that. Dates and almonds I do all the time. I shall check out bananas and almonds, thanks.
The fiber comment with Young kids was interesting! I never Thought of that.
The research study NEEDS to happen!
Also, years ago, kids used to play
RED LIGHT, GREEN LIGHT and have P.E.
playing that game is like bringing out the hormone leptin .which takes appetite..
it makes them run hard, and then freeze...
They dont need snacks after school
Not hungry..
They waited for dinner..
1/5 should be meat...not 1/4 or none
Carbs should be at minimum
Dr. Ettinger is an earth angel!
Expensive studies are fine but just try the wfpb diet for a couple of weeks, see what happens.
I too feel that being vegan/WFPB is much more freeing. I don’t have to decide if I am going to eat something or not. Is is vegan? Is it whole a food? Yesterday a client gave me two cookies from a chi-chi food place and I thanked her and gave them away to someone else as they weren’t vegan.
I think what these groups and doctors fail to realize is that they can be the ones who open the gate for a lot of these studies on these pediatric patients that are coming Into their facilities. Report success rates to and for these studies. Having an open mind, trying to implement subtle changes and educate these families on the benefits and further their resource outreach. Intervention medicine means informed consent, supporting their patients every atep of the way, having the patients' metabolic levels checked every 6 months, keeping open lines of communication and follow-ups on patient and family goals. Community, Healthcare, and Educational settings are our biggest audiences. Raising awareness and continuing to show up will be the biggest impact we can have on children and their families for and their future health and longevity.
Thank you Chuck for always bringing amazing voices on the show. Thank you doc for your continued advocacy and shedding light on a sensitive and critical topic.
10:45 really sad it takes studies of people being ill to do this - because you need unwell people in order to have studies - and so they need to be ill to be studied. It's really unethical to me to rely on studies when we know mechanisms behind actions.
I was the ONLY heavy child out of 6 kids, and I was told pretty early in life (childhood) to go on "diets" or to avoid certain foods, or given diet advice by adults in our family. This led to me developing pretty serious and unhealthy habits with food and eating issues. In my thirties now, and STILL struggling with seriously disordered eating habits, even after I (thank God) stumbled upon the whole food plant based/vegan lifestyle and have been plant based for over 13 years now. Talking to kids about diet can be tough, can be a double edged 🗡️ when adults want to help but the kid becomes eating disordered. My hat's off to this doctor and many others who want to help and truly care and people, but it's not an easy task to know how to approach such vulnerable innocent children who don't understand what is happening to their own body.
I pray for well meaning parents and doctors to have wisdom in how to approach this topic with innocent children in a healthy manner.
Sadly down the road I see vegan kids eating as much junk even more actually. This is something Dr Barnard is ignorant to because he chooses to do so for other reasons
Even if there aren't any studies on children, kids are just little people. We are made the same way. So it makes logical sense that what works on an adult, would work on a child.
I thought so too until the doc went on to explain about getting enough nutrition/calories into a little tummy that is crowded with that good fiber! I learned a lot in this video!
Are there robust studies that demonstrate that gastric bypass surgery and drugs work long term in Obese children? Yet they are reluctant to teach calorie density to our children that only bring long-term health and wellness.
Excellent interview. Thank you Leigh for all you are doing!
why does society hurt kids with health issues and then blame them (their genes) for it?
23:51 yes 'conditioning' younger generations. The issue is when we use the positive reinforcement like pavlov's dog. We're not dogs - why are we treating ourselves (as a society) so inhumanely - degrading ourselves to less than human?
Send wfpb recipes home from hospital with the parents of newborn babies.
22:50 there's only so much you can put on your plate. So obviously we're always limited. Someone who eats in one place is limited by the selection there. We're always limited, so I don't know the issue. But we can always fill our plates with the limited options too - like if you only have potatoes available - that's your meal. And as the Dr. said - we're supposed to be used to a starvation mode due to our ancestors with limited options - so it's not a big deal anyway to be limited.
In order to get the "proof" that the surgery works . . . wouldn't they need to do the surgery first then verify? And, changing the diet is so low risk. . .
I was in the bakery section of popular grocers' and it has the word HEALTHY on the packaging. It was oatmeal based. You don't get overweight overnight.
For kids I guess it would make sense to replace whole grains with refined, so white rice instead of brown, potatoes are fine, multigrain bread is fine, pasta of course. By not eating everything whole, kids can get more good calories without too much fiber, as long as they eat some veggies and fruit alongside those grains
Watching from Guyana.
Excellent
That’s awesome. Thank goodness out here in Indonesia it’s not that bad yet but it’s probably would get there in the next 20-30yrs. Some pediatrician even recommend cheese & cow’s milk for infants at 6 months old.
Exactly why you need studies by unbiased doctors or people coming out themselves n speak if whole foods minimally processed like cows milk is bad or refined plant based baby formula will be.
Good luck
By the way when there was no processed junk n communities who don't eat industry food thrive on cows milk n cheese.
Just make sure plant based refined junk is not added to them
@@kundansaran8962 there’s no plant based refined anything around here that taste right. They all taste weird at least to me. Before there was processed crap, people here eat lots of veggies with sambal made with a bit of shrimp paste along with rice or cassava. Back then most people who haven’t got a lot of money but got a lot of kids, would only get to indulge in eating rich festive food when there were festivities or whenever there was someone threw party. These days everyday is festive day. It’s very much cause for concern.
@@kundansaran8962 well i don’t need it anymore. Both of my babies took after me and would only drink their mother’s milk. Now they’re both grown up and still eat their veggies just the way i fed them as a child. When my daughter didn’t wanna eat meat, i don’t make her eat it. I’ll let her eat what she wanted. When my son hated mcdonald’s chicken nuggets at his friends’ birthday parties i also allow him not eat things he hated, even the veggies he hated (which is only 1-2). He eats whatever else i cook. These days i cook veggies and rice and that’s what he’d eat along with shrimp paste chili sauce. We’re not vegan family but we eat mostly whole plant food like fruits, veggies & a whole lot of grains along with beans.
And check this out, in Los Angeles 15 years ago, entering into menopause, I went, for the only time in my life, to a psychologist for mood counselling. She had all this literature on the benefits of - milk!?!? A psychologist was advising people to drink milk. Good grief, first and last time I ever went to counselling. And guess what - I got through menopause with no medications or medical intervention (other than some acupuncture, which did help the several times I went). Why?? Because I have been meat- and dairy-free since I was 25 years old. Despite what shrinks or doctors - or family - would advise. By the way, none of my full-blooded sisters were as "lucky" as I have been with my health over the decades, and especially with menopause. They remain on the S.A.D. - Standard American Diet. Oy vey.
Very informative video, thank you. Instead of remarking to the doctor about how much more relatable his patients felt he was for losing 20 lbs and lowering his blood pressure, I would have liked to hear his experiences directly from the doctor. There is a strong push-back from people who don't want to believe it. Now 1 in five kids is obese - not fat, but obese. It is the new normal and people want to believe in those pills and don't have the guts to be different and don't have the gumption to learn something new. And sure as heck don't want to cook. They'd rather die than take their heads out of the sand. But never forget the elephant in the room when it coms to the medical industry: there is no money in counselling people on plant-based diets. Obviously some doctors, such s Dr. Ettinger here, are motivated by the truth. Read my lips: if they cure your hypertension through something so easy and simple, they just lost some future regular office visits and income from tests. Further, they would be telling their patients something the patients don't want to believe - please god anything other than give up cheeseburgers!! No pecuniary incentive, hard to do, will lose patients. Dr. Neal Barnard and his kind in the medical industry are saints. Just preaching the common-sense thing.
I wouldn’t doubt that the fast food industry also invest their profits into nursing homes and companies that produce medicine for diabetes and related disease caused by the very food that they serve. They’re setting us up like cattle instead it to be slaughtered , kept alive buying more and more medicine and needing more and more help from the very producers that put them there.💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Who pays for all the bills for kids and adults who are overweight and unhealthy? Doctor appointments and drugs?? You and I do!!! 😂😂😂😂
Part of the confusion is the labels 🏷️ of theses diets ….
Instead of understanding cause and affect people are just seeing labels 🏷️
If people understood over eating calories will eventually lead to intramyocellular lipids or plaque build up …………..its really simple to see, to just eat Whole Foods mostly plants And not a lot , basically just aim to get the essential nutrients some antioxidants and some prebiotics in every day 🤷🏽♂️
broccoli and carrots do not have labels
What a hero in a den of vampires. Most have no idea what WFPBD can do.
I mean if you see they don't have research - look at what they're looking at and where they found it and what they missed.
I just can’t help thinking how much he reminds me of Michael Keaton 😂
don't pay for grades. I never did. All children got advanced degrees and more.
Banana and raw almond butter.
I cannot ask my kid to substitute a banana for the candy being given out to their classmates during school, I wish I could but it isn’t practical advise. I really need practical advise….holidays, school situations, extended family pressures.
Then your kids will suffer the consequences. But they will fit right in and end up fulfilling the same health statistics.
@@salviabuckwheats7434 I need ideas other than a banana, what do your kids do???
It's wonderful to hear that there are doctors who dedicate their life to help children to lose weight. But I don't think plant based is the right choice for them. Their growing body needs much more protein than plants can offer. They should eat a lot of animal based foods to support their growing.
You know to get as much protein from Dal you need to way more of something that will cause other problems. This is why Indians balanced their protein intake from both plant and animal sources.
Extremism will lead to other problems especially for kids and worse outcome will be them eating vegan junk because they will not get that satiety eating wfpbd. I guarantee this today
Not necessarily. Jane Esselstyn’s children were raised WFPB and all were elite athletes in high school. Plant chompers daughter has her own channel (can’t remember the name). She’s a mom who talks about feeding her young children WFPB. Lotos of research available children thrive on WFPB
Elephants, cows and gorillas get all of their protein from plants. There is plenty of protein in plants.
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