Putting this out there: We're aware Susie's Star Allies description is translated differently. However, it mainly left out the part where she's trying to bring peace, a part we DID acknowledge in the video. Her methods are still more or less the same (Using Haltmann's assets + Building new homes + Exterminating "savages" = Mechanizing planets) so it's still ambiguous if what she's doing is completely okay.
This does fit into the whole *MORAL GREY* area, where we are left wondering if this is indeed good or not. The intentions to do good *ARE* there, but the way she goes about it? I'm getting serious Lelouch vibes here...
Honestly its still more interesting to me that she isn't just redeemed outright, she's still doing the same shit as before, shes jsut not bothering kirby anymore
Most Nintendo villains: over time develop a more friendly relationship with their nemesis King K Rool: literally goes insane trying to destroy his enemy’s life
Spoilers for number 1: There’s one other thing they forgot to mention with King Dedede. His actions in smash Brothers brawl. More specifically subspace emissary. When he first shows up, he’s acting like an antagonist taking out Luigi, but then tricking Wario to then grab Ness and Peach? Making you wonder what he’s up to. Then you get to the scene that only in hindsight really elevates his character. He starts placing what look like badges with his face on them as some sort of vanity thing onto the trophies. But once he notices that he’s one short, he looks at the one that he has on. Sighs, and then remove it, placing it on Peach. And like I said, it’s only with hindsight that you realize what just happened once the true villain is revealed and he one-shots everybody. The badges on Ness, Luigi, and Kirby. (who, after a series of events was the one who ended up secretly taking the badge from Peach) Activates, reviving them. Essentially king Dedede may have enacted another one of his half baked plans. But it was the Hail Mary pass that ended up saving the world. And the scene between him and Bowser. Freaking Bowser shows just how much the hammer swinging penguin had improved from the person he was in the original game.
From what I also remember from part of the script that got cut, King Dedede was also part of the Subspace Army and was the reason Meta Knight lost control of the Halberd. But upon learning about Tabuu, King Dedede quietly left the villain group to enact the plan with his Revive Badges as a fail safe to stop Tabuu.
We got a KING at Number 1, and that legendary hammer-wielding penguin EARNED it. I still do get annoyed at the possessed trope sometimes, but I guess that's a better idea than retconning his redemption arc while still making bossfights with him
Christian kirbo. Meta knight. King dedede. Ribbon. All the bad guys in the pause screen lore. The magic wizard. Forgotten lands. Terra forming company. All just fantastic.
I saw that robot dog episode again earlier this year. I hate yet am very impressed by the fact that that damn episode still managed to make me cry years after i first saw it.
Kirby is just such an inviting character. On the surface he's just a guy who likes to eat, sleep and make friends but then you look deeper....you find the same thing but it works for him. With Kirby, what you see is what you get. A determined friendly pink circle. It's so hard to just look at him and not smile. I love that Kirby's this endless beacon of positivity. Willing to help strangers in need. Quick to forgive and break bread with people who still very obviously want him dead or have been enemies in the past. He just doesn't know any better and will treat anyone who isn't attacking him like they've been homies for life. That's funny. That's cute. That's...Kirby. People like to talk about how he's just so damn strong and....he is but I've always appreciated how these world ending stakes have never weighed on his simple mind too heavily. That is some god-like being awakened from centuries ago wanting the destruction of all life. That's a guy that is stopping eating sleeping and friendship and now must be terminated. It's been said time in and time out but the person who cares the least about the lore surrounding Kirby is titular character. Never stop being the charming pink gumball you are little guy.
"Dedede is the Miles Edgeworth of the Kirby franchise." So, I take it you are excited for the Miles Edgewoth Investigates Collection coming out in September!
27:09 Geez King Dedede gets brainwashed by Insidious forces & it "KEEP HAPPENING EVERY MOTHERFUCKIN' TIMES!!" "My man you are a king get an Exorcist on your payroll!"
I really like how Shaman and Josh describe Kirby as the video game equivalent of Superman at his finest. Of course DeDeDe the infinite one is always a blast to watch.
I'm glad to see more people being into the characters of Kirby. I feel most people tend to overlook them because the games on their own are fairly simple
"Threw a giant frying pan into the sun and back!" Hey Josh did you hear Death Battle is coming back? E..eventually. Ben gained control of the brand and the group has a business plan to proceed. I see Magolor compared to Volo from Pokémon Legends Arceus quite a bit. Shady salesman, blue and yellow color scheme, pretends to be your friend only to backstab you, seeking divine power, etc. Funny you should compare Dedede to the Rocket trio since that hilarious English voice of his is the same actor as Giovanni.
Number 4 surprised me. But after that, I knew Number 1 had to be somewhere in the top 3. Thank you immensely for this month, Josh, Count, and all of the rest of you. Your work makes a world of difference. Already looking forward to what comes next.
1:07-1:12 Spike is my second favorite character from MLP: Friendship is Magic 9:42 Hey Aramau 18:18 Source of clip: MLP FiM S8 E13, The Mean 6 21:20-21:25 I'm sure Josh knows what it's like to have a lovely secretary
Meta Knight is definetly my favorite Kirby charachter. Its just really impressive how H.A.L managed to make charachter that is formed like a ball so cool looking.
Bowser, Eggman, Neo Cortex, and other villains: Hesitantly and begrudgingly helps the hero when the need arises. King Dedede: Doesn’t hesitate or think twice when it comes to helping Kirby and saving the universe. Thus protecting his people, earning their respect, and being heralded a hero alongside Kirby instead of just second place from him. Dedede knows how to be a hero, he just lets his ego and grudge against Kirby get in the way when Dreamland isn’t in danger.
I want Resident Evil month when October rolls around. I also want a Pokémon month just so we can get MandJTV, WolfeyVGC, or MysticUmbreon as a guest. POKÉMONTH!
15:46 adding one last feat which probably my favorite: In the minigame star slam heroes, Kirby manages to not only deflect a meteor that's labeled as a "world crisis," but hit it through multiple planets (and a UFO for some reason) 9999 LIGHT YEARS away in around thirty seconds... With nothing but a WOODEN BASEBAL BAT!!! *A! WOODEN! BASEBALL BAT!!!!!*
Man, Adeleine got done so dirty here. She appears in all the number segments, but doesn't even get an honorable mention. I love Adeleine so much because, minding the paint brush she wields with a limitless supply of paint that creates animate objects, she's really just a plain, regular old human who happens to be stranded in the chaotic universe of Kirby, and she's seemingly the only one left to boot. She's such a sweet, kind, and precious person which really makes me feel for her and the situation she's in. I also love when we get to explore Shiver Star and see what was probably her old home, a desolate Earth suffering a permanent state of post-apocalyptic winter, nobody else like Adeleine in sight. It's just a shame that she has so few appearances. I attribute that lack of appearances to her exclusion from the anime on the grounds that Sakurai didn't want human characters to show up in it, the creatives taking that as them needing to leave behind Adeleine, and that decision likely single-handedly kneecapping her ability to appear in games for such a long time. I only hope that now, in a post-Star Allies world, whenever Hal decides to make another new Kirby game that starts bringing back more stuff from previous games (I'm happy with Forgotten Land being the way it is even regarding all this because that game was clearly meant to be made up of mostly original content and only a small handful of old material) that they give Adeleine another chance. Yes, she's my favorite character in the Kirby series, just in case you couldn't tell by now.
Speaking of the Mage Sisters… Every time I hear more about their traumatic backstories, the more they always point me towards the leviathans of Hyrule in Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom. It gets even more shocking because I looked around the leviathan bones and pointed some obvious discoveries that correlate to the Mage Sisters. Eldin Great Skeleton - a Great Flameblame is found inside the skull, and a set of four rocks forming a circle is found outside the vertebrae of rib cage… It was no Korok puzzle… Such stones in that sort of formation can indicate the site where someone died… Hebra Great Skeleton - inside a cave at the base of the North Hebra Summit. If you exit the cave, you come across a snowfield where an inactive Guardian lies in wait to ambush Link, in Tears of the Kingdom, where the Guardian was is replaced with rubble from the sky islands when the Upheaval occurred… guarded by a Frost Gleeok… Why was that spot significant? Hm? Gerudo Great Skeleton - In Breath, it was the site of a shrine and a fairy fountain. Surrounding the bud are Fire, Ice, and Electric Safflinas… Sound familiar? In Tears, not only was this leviathan now located in a cave where it once stood upon, but we realize it had a child that died with it… Exiting the cave will lead you to the Lightning Temple, an ancient towering structure where the Gerudo Sage of Lightning hid her Secret Stone… where Queen Gibdo is fought twice. The roof of the temple has rubble with rocks that contain rare stones that Link can collect in his inventory. And think for a moment… a towering structure in a land associated with lightning… The Dark Skeletons… Nobody knows the exact nature of these monstrous fossils… aside from being Gloom Spawn habitats and the where the Hero of the Wild set can be found… they all appear identical to each other… not to mention the Phantom Ganon that appears at the Gerudo Dark Skeleton is equipped with a spear… beneath a land associated with lightning… the other two had swords… The Depths are Tears’ most dangerous location. Evil is everywhere… Not to mention… The shocking resemblance of Francisca to Nayru. More specifically her 2D sprite model in Oracle of Ages. Flamberge having a fang (at least judging from fan art) like a certain humanoid demon, and Zan having the undying loyalty to Hyness. Undying loyalty… That’s more of a Sheikah trait… Sheikah to Hylia, Yiga to Ganon. With all this in mind… Was there a connection between the Mage Sisters and the leviathans of Hyrule?
I'd Argue DaRoach is just a straight Rogue, in 5e thirteenth level Thief Rogues can the ability to use magic items and ignores any additional rules for attuning to magic items and all of his magic if I recall comes from the magic items and nothing he does. Therefore he is a 13th level thief rogue
And so another themed month has come to a close. I saw your Sonic Month videos, and saw that Dr. Eggman was your No. 1 Sonic character. Also, if you are open to suggestions for future game months, I would like to make a few. 1.Mega Man Month 2.Resident Evil Month 3.Metroid Month 4.Kingdom Hearts Month 5.Super Mario Bros. Month 6.Assassin's Creed Month 7.Final Fantasy Month 8.Wolfenstein Month 9.Grand Theft Auto Month 10.Call Of Duty Month Of course, these are just suggestions. You do you, man.
Fun fact: I had a friend in high school who absolutely LOATHED Kirby. Not because she hated the games, but simply because she was creeped out by his portrayal in There Will Be Brawl. I repeatedly tried to tell her that it was a parody, but she wouldn't listen and was convinced that Kirby was nothing more than a cannibalistic serial killer. It's kind of the equivalent of hating Winnie the Pooh because of Blood and Honey.
The Smash Bro’s player in my approves of number 1. Also they have the best hardcore theme in the series, whether it’s their 2nd phase in Triple Delxue or their first encounter in Forgotten Land, their song slaps harder than it should and I love it for it.
I've got a soft spot for Shadow Kirby. Throughout Amazing Mirror he looks like he's going to be another antagonist. However, by the time you're fighting Dark Mind he'll either give you healing items or return Meta Knight's sword. The post-credits reveal he was never really evil, he just saw regular Kirby and assumed the worst. His return in Triple Deluxe was... odd. Between a radically different design and being a lot more aggressive, we didn't even know he was the same character until Fighters 2 gave him a nice mix of the two designs. Said game also gives a reason for suddenly turning hostile in Triple Deluxe: he didn't. He may not be evil, but he's not above pranks.
On top of Kirby being a father. He also befriended the one snowman that shows up in all the games. Like he befriended a snowman that was an assassin, and his friendship with him made him not only turn against king DDD but also his creator. Leading to his death and the episode ends showing yes he's DEAD.
I remember when Forgotten Land first released, and everyone was shooting murder glances at Elfilin, expecting him to backstab us like every other Kirby character in the past few games. But for me, I had faith that he would still be on our side. He’s just so lovable and helpful, wanting to do everything to help protect the Waddle Dees. It warmed my heart when I realized that by the end, he was never gonna be the villain, my faith finally kept in tact.
A friend of mine was saying that this was probably the best outcome since he was PART of the ultimate villain but was also our friend, so it made theorists on both sides happy
Just point out the thing on susie's description of mechanizing planets like her father isn't canon is from the translation kinda like mega man 7's ending
She still uses extreme measures to ensure the supposed peace, so the context is still more or less the same. The translation doesn't bring up that she's trying to bring peace, but we did.
Kirby characters are just made for pure love and joy, with some heldrich horror backstory to give it a nice twist! I love Kirby and his friends, and I can't wait to see what adventures they’ll go on next!
The ending to Dedede's Revenge from Superstar Ultra was *the* moment where he earned my complete and utter respect. First we got him telling bandana dee to escape the castle before Kirby's rampage crosses his path, and Bandana Dee stays. Hell, even after Kirby kicks his ass, he finds his way to the arena to cheer for Dedede. And then the credits. You *cannot* tell me, that Dedede is a horrible king when all those dees are still willing to follow him after his defeat. And the smile he gives when they start appearing is so heart warming.
10:55 i still remember how everyone was giving elflin the middle finger because everyone thought they were gonna pull a magalor/marx before the game came out
Technically they were partially right. Elfillin is part of the twist and final boss. The only problem is that he literally is the body's conscious given form.
Dang, Ari was rightfully peeved there. Edit: 26:13: "It's *revenge,* and it's best served cold!" Edit 2: King Dedede with a southern accent? What kind of royalty is he?
A cool detail about Meta Knight’s character in forgotten land, he actually takes on the role of protector of Waddle Dee town whenever Kirby’s away. Remember Goromando, the giant gorilla? Meta Knight had to fend him off 30 times! And he won every single time!
The D man got it. Was there really any doubt. I think he has the most notable character growth in the series, actually trying to be a good enough King to the land he barged into and proclaimed a monarchy in. Plus I don't think people give anime Dedede enough credit. A lot of fans credit him for the misconception of him still being a villain which....yes the anime doesn't really help but not only is he just funny, he also does have some character to him. Multiple episodes showcase how Dedede is more of a manchild who craves attention, usually taking it to the extreme because he has the money and power to do so. That "crying at Kirby's funeral" episode has the context of everyone getting a dedicated day of appreciation and gifts. Dedede tries his hardest to get his own but literally no one likes him for obvious reasons. Even when Kirby, quite literally the only person there who likes him comes with a gift in the form of a watermelon, Dedede sees it as a prank because it was eaten by someone who should not be trusted with food gifts. The King, as usual, blows it out of proportion which leads to the prank discussed in the video. Funny thing is, while it was a bunch of bomb watermelons, Dedede is fully banking on Kirby surviving even trying to get a gift for him from N.M.E. Dedede's actions were, in every way possible, just a prank bro. I'm not saying anime Dedede is necessarily a good person or developed character, he does kinda go back to his scheming ways every episode and this idea of him just wanting people to acknowledge him never gets expanded, but I will say he was probably the most entertaining thing about Right Back at Ya for many reasons. Another W for the king if you ask me.
Honestly: Thought it was gonna be either Magolor or Dedede at number 1. Frankly, it could have gone either way. For a relatively simple series, we get some truly wonderful characters.
24:15 I feel like I figured out why Edelgard went down the quick was route instead of doing the more methodical way. She was low on time, like Lysithea before her, she was short on years and decided to get things done while she's still alive. Is it morally correct? Far from it, I'm sure if it were up to her, she would've done it the proper way of bringing the empire to a more self-sustaining methodology of hard work over Crests. However, due to Those Who Slither In the Dark probably would've undo anything she would've set out to do. So she brute forced it. Though I feel like she should've asked for the church for help FIRST to deal with the Agarthans (like she did in Three Hopes) THEN tell the church off and replace the church, with some resistance from the Kingdom and probably joining forces with the Alliance now turned Federation. Anyway tangent aside, good video. May the pink puff ball forever bring us smiles.............also remaster Crystals Shards dammit! Please Nintendo/HAL Laboratories.
I hope Hal makes a future Kirby game that finally reveals, explore and develop the franchise's biggest mysteries. Like a secret origin for Kirby, the Ancients, bigger stakes with more daring consequences, more epic boss battles in the same level as Magolor and Fecto Elfilis, and so on.
Let's never forget one part of what makes Magalor a famous Kirby character and thats a certain famous voice if you know what I'm refering to you know exacly how much you laughed at that sudden betrayal voice
If I can add in on Susie's story, Max Haltmann was constantly using Star Dream to bring her back from the dead, which failed due to her not actually dying. All of the constant use ofcthe artificial clockwork star did damage to his mind, making him forget his daughter almost entirely until it was way too late (when his mind ans soul was absorbedby Star Dream). Also, that "teach him a lesson" and "mechanize planets" were semi-mistranslations, actually saying her wish was to "make him (her dad) wake up (come to his senses) with tears in his eyes" and what she was doing after KPR was turning HAL works co. into a better company, giving happier lives to the planets in its care... and exterminate the 'uncivilized'.
I take the "teaching him a lesson" part as a subtext that's meant to be read between, with the meaning behind it being, as you said "waking him up". It's less obvious, but I think figuring that out is part of what makes it so cool.
Huge honorable mention: Kracko, the single best recurring antagonist. Yes, I even rank him above Dark Matter! Ancient eldritch origins? Redemption? Tragic past? Nah! Been there, done that! Kracko's a Kirby Hater to the core, or rather, eyeball(are we sure this guy isn't dark matter?). Simple, an iconic design, and an unrelenting spite. Sometimes that's all you need.
My honorable mentions: The Ancients (Various) Who they are or what they are, nobody seems to know. All we do know is that they are responsible for most of the franchise’s mysterious lore. Animal Friends (Kirby’s Dreamland 2 and 3) Rick the hamster, Kine the fish, Coo the owl, Nago the cat, Chuchu the octopus, and Pitch the bird. All equally adorable and ready to aid Kirby in his adventures. Escargoon (Kirby Right Back At Ya) Dedede’s right hand snail who’s always eager to help out in whatever crazy scheme the king’s got cooking up. BTW, he’s of the few characters from the anime who made a brief appearance in the games, specifically the Kirby Quest minigame in Mass Attack. The Kirby Species (Various) Turns out that Kirby’s not the only powerhouse puffball in Dreamland. Leongar And Clawroline (Kirby And The Forgotten Land) Rulers of the animal kingdom who became tragic victims of Fecto Forgo.
You got something a bit wrong with the Mage Sisters, namely the ending for the extra story. It doesn't just stay with them dead like that but if you look carefully, you'll see a dark aura appear around them all while an ominous sound plays as it does. And those of us Kirby veterans may recognize that sound from Kirby 64 if you got the bad ending where the fairy queen, after waving bye to Kirby and co., glances over at Ribbon with an evil glare.
The fun thing I think about Dedede's Development is in Star Allies, he's brought into the plot by stealing food, and the game explicitly says this isn't something he would do You know a character's come a long way if the first thing they were introduced doing is considered an Out of Character moment
POYO!!!! Throughout the series Kirby has some very interesting characters ranging from the friendly animal companions, tough rivals that occasionally become allies, and of course the beings are nightmare inducing with terrifying lore behind them. Looking forward to seeing which ones will be mentioned.
It’s kind of interesting that how in the Top 10 Sonic characters, a very powerful copy bot was number 4 and in this favorite list, a copy character (the main character and a powerful one at that) also made it to number 4. And they are my favorite characters from their respective series.
Fun Fact: Plus Zelda and Sonic Month, the #4 are all the ones I passionately candidated for the list. Emerl for Sonic and Linebeck for Zelda. Originally, I was expecting Susie to be #4 on this list since she falls into that category, but the writers agreed to bump her up to #2 because of her complexity, so Kirby is #4 instead, yet in a way, it still works out since he too is my boy.
Dedede is such a great character, as was mentioned guy was willing to sacrifice him self for a Waddle Dee which is instant respect from me. A King who is willing to sacrifice them self for their subjects is the kind of King I woudn't be opposed to working under
12:38 Besides, Super Star suffers the same problem a s Megamn 7 and Final Fantasy IX, where the translators took themselves some... liberties. With the dialogue
27:19 *that moment when you realize bandana dee **_was_** supposed to be that exorcist in context of the games* ...huh. dreamland doesn't study voodoo. Good to know 😊
@jaketaller8567 I mean it'd make sense, if we assume ultra is supposed to be am alternate timeline that literally took place _after dreamland 2_ Would make sense he'd hire something to cure him. Not to mention he wasn't wrong on his foresight, guess what happened two years later? ...epic yarn, he gets possessed. AGAIN.
Putting this out there: We're aware Susie's Star Allies description is translated differently. However, it mainly left out the part where she's trying to bring peace, a part we DID acknowledge in the video. Her methods are still more or less the same (Using Haltmann's assets + Building new homes + Exterminating "savages" = Mechanizing planets) so it's still ambiguous if what she's doing is completely okay.
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Hey Shaman
Thank you so much for all that you do, Count.
This does fit into the whole *MORAL GREY* area, where we are left wondering if this is indeed good or not. The intentions to do good *ARE* there, but the way she goes about it? I'm getting serious Lelouch vibes here...
Honestly its still more interesting to me that she isn't just redeemed outright, she's still doing the same shit as before, shes jsut not bothering kirby anymore
Most Nintendo villains: over time develop a more friendly relationship with their nemesis
King K Rool: literally goes insane trying to destroy his enemy’s life
Ridley: Finally, my kind of guy!
@@kingvideogames I mean, Ridley is canonically dead, and only clones have been fought since then. So he’s not stressed anymore.
Ganondorf: I'll be back for your descendants! And THEIR descendants!
wolf: listen fox I respect ya but I still got to blast ya just business good sir just business
So did Eggman technically...
And bowser...
And Ganondorf...
And if we're really going to be technical so did gruntilda, louie...
9:34 Josh nearly gets himself skinned because of how much he gushed over Elfilin.
Spoilers for number 1:
There’s one other thing they forgot to mention with King Dedede. His actions in smash Brothers brawl. More specifically subspace emissary.
When he first shows up, he’s acting like an antagonist taking out Luigi, but then tricking Wario to then grab Ness and Peach?
Making you wonder what he’s up to.
Then you get to the scene that only in hindsight really elevates his character.
He starts placing what look like badges with his face on them as some sort of vanity thing onto the trophies. But once he notices that he’s one short, he looks at the one that he has on. Sighs,
and then remove it, placing it on Peach.
And like I said, it’s only with hindsight that you realize what just happened once the true villain is revealed and he one-shots everybody.
The badges on Ness, Luigi, and Kirby. (who, after a series of events was the one who ended up secretly taking the badge from Peach)
Activates, reviving them.
Essentially king Dedede may have enacted another one of his half baked plans. But it was the Hail Mary pass that ended up saving the world.
And the scene between him and Bowser. Freaking Bowser shows just how much the hammer swinging penguin had improved from the person he was in the original game.
From what I also remember from part of the script that got cut, King Dedede was also part of the Subspace Army and was the reason Meta Knight lost control of the Halberd. But upon learning about Tabuu, King Dedede quietly left the villain group to enact the plan with his Revive Badges as a fail safe to stop Tabuu.
Melee's the Gamecube variant with a different adventure mode. Brawl is the one with the Emissary.
@@theFiredbones thank you for that. I fixed it. Along with a couple of other spelling errors.
In the Japanese version of star allies Susie actually tries to undo what her father did and mechanizes uninhabited planets
Kirby saving the universe and he's still a baby. Imagine when he gains adulthood?
Adult Kirby: I AM A GOD OF DESTRUCTION
I imagine they become something like Galacta Knight.
That's the anime continuity. Kirby's just young in most other continuities.
@@MisterMokurohyeah game Kirby is a squire with high potential
Kirby pays taxes.
We got a KING at Number 1, and that legendary hammer-wielding penguin EARNED it.
I still do get annoyed at the possessed trope sometimes, but I guess that's a better idea than retconning his redemption arc while still making bossfights with him
It's honestly crazy just how many of his friends were enemies first. Even Adeleine.
Wasn't she possessed?
@@LillyWhiteFairy Oh yeah.
Kirby's basically just a softer version of Goku.
Christian kirbo.
Meta knight. King dedede. Ribbon.
All the bad guys in the pause screen lore. The magic wizard. Forgotten lands. Terra forming company. All just fantastic.
"Get an exorcist on your payroll!"
He does. Their name is Kirby XD
7:08 So that robot dog episode of the Kirby anime WASN’T just a fever dream?
No. And now I'm depressed again.
The Kirby anime is one giant fever dream honestly.
...Chilly.
I saw that robot dog episode again earlier this year. I hate yet am very impressed by the fact that that damn episode still managed to make me cry years after i first saw it.
@@minasthirith6314 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Kirby is just such an inviting character. On the surface he's just a guy who likes to eat, sleep and make friends but then you look deeper....you find the same thing but it works for him. With Kirby, what you see is what you get. A determined friendly pink circle. It's so hard to just look at him and not smile. I love that Kirby's this endless beacon of positivity. Willing to help strangers in need. Quick to forgive and break bread with people who still very obviously want him dead or have been enemies in the past. He just doesn't know any better and will treat anyone who isn't attacking him like they've been homies for life. That's funny. That's cute. That's...Kirby. People like to talk about how he's just so damn strong and....he is but I've always appreciated how these world ending stakes have never weighed on his simple mind too heavily. That is some god-like being awakened from centuries ago wanting the destruction of all life. That's a guy that is stopping eating sleeping and friendship and now must be terminated. It's been said time in and time out but the person who cares the least about the lore surrounding Kirby is titular character. Never stop being the charming pink gumball you are little guy.
Yet even with all that positivity, he literally eats henchmen for breakfast.
"Dedede is the Miles Edgeworth of the Kirby franchise." So, I take it you are excited for the Miles Edgewoth Investigates Collection coming out in September!
I'm effing stoked for it. Especially since we're getting AAI-2 for the very first time (officially).
27:09
Geez King Dedede gets brainwashed by Insidious forces & it "KEEP HAPPENING EVERY MOTHERFUCKIN' TIMES!!" "My man you are a king get an Exorcist on your payroll!"
Not even the Waddle Dees get paid apparently
@@silverflight01well no they get paid with free housing and food
I really like how Shaman and Josh describe Kirby as the video game equivalent of Superman at his finest.
Of course DeDeDe the infinite one is always a blast to watch.
If Josh ever does another Kirby Marathon, or just another Kirby Countdown, I would like to see the 10 best Kirby Antagonists.
And me, a top 10 of the best Kirby soundtracks (heck, we would need a top 15 for this one).
Seeeerctoooniaaaa
@@SophisticatedArc joshscorcher needs to react to transformers one trailer 1 and trailer 2
He needs to bring Fawful in if he does.
Bets on half of the entries have him saying "what the yay"
I can't believe it took me this long to realize that anime King Dedede sounds a little like Foghorn Leghorn.
Boy I said Boy!!!
I'm glad to see more people being into the characters of Kirby. I feel most people tend to overlook them because the games on their own are fairly simple
Dedede. Best character arc in gaming history.
But everyone else are also peak characters.
Edit: YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAHHHH, DEDEDE SWEEEEEP!
DeDeDe is eternal if every De in his name is DeDeDe.
Therefore he can be everyone’s boyfriend.
"Threw a giant frying pan into the sun and back!" Hey Josh did you hear Death Battle is coming back? E..eventually. Ben gained control of the brand and the group has a business plan to proceed.
I see Magolor compared to Volo from Pokémon Legends Arceus quite a bit. Shady salesman, blue and yellow color scheme, pretends to be your friend only to backstab you, seeking divine power, etc.
Funny you should compare Dedede to the Rocket trio since that hilarious English voice of his is the same actor as Giovanni.
Fun fact: The eng dub voice was done in the idea that Dedede was a corrupt southern sheriff in service to a crime boss (Nightmare).
Also funny is when the Team Rocket clip got brought up; Ted Lewis, Dedede's English VA, just so happened to be the voice of Giovanni. XD
Corrupt southern sheriff? That's funny I just assumed he was doing a Foghorn Leghorn impression
@@BJGvideos your point?
@@LordVanOskuro Was just saying.
@@BJGvideos No. The joke is supposed that Foghorn already sounds like a Southern sheriff.
2:39 - 2:42 "no no stay here this IS the corner of shame"
i laughed harder than i should have 😅
Number 4 surprised me. But after that, I knew Number 1 had to be somewhere in the top 3.
Thank you immensely for this month, Josh, Count, and all of the rest of you. Your work makes a world of difference. Already looking forward to what comes next.
1:07-1:12 Spike is my second favorite character from MLP: Friendship is Magic
9:42 Hey Aramau
18:18 Source of clip: MLP FiM S8 E13, The Mean 6
21:20-21:25 I'm sure Josh knows what it's like to have a lovely secretary
Meta Knight is definetly my favorite Kirby charachter. Its just really impressive how H.A.L managed to make charachter that is formed like a ball so cool looking.
Bowser, Eggman, Neo Cortex, and other villains: Hesitantly and begrudgingly helps the hero when the need arises.
King Dedede: Doesn’t hesitate or think twice when it comes to helping Kirby and saving the universe. Thus protecting his people, earning their respect, and being heralded a hero alongside Kirby instead of just second place from him.
Dedede knows how to be a hero, he just lets his ego and grudge against Kirby get in the way when Dreamland isn’t in danger.
Caddicarus: Ooh, well could I have King Dee Dee Dee?
I want Resident Evil month when October rolls around.
I also want a Pokémon month just so we can get MandJTV, WolfeyVGC, or MysticUmbreon as a guest. POKÉMONTH!
15:46 adding one last feat which probably my favorite:
In the minigame star slam heroes, Kirby manages to not only deflect a meteor that's labeled as a "world crisis," but hit it through multiple planets (and a UFO for some reason) 9999 LIGHT YEARS away in around thirty seconds... With nothing but a WOODEN BASEBAL BAT!!! *A! WOODEN! BASEBALL BAT!!!!!*
Man, Adeleine got done so dirty here. She appears in all the number segments, but doesn't even get an honorable mention. I love Adeleine so much because, minding the paint brush she wields with a limitless supply of paint that creates animate objects, she's really just a plain, regular old human who happens to be stranded in the chaotic universe of Kirby, and she's seemingly the only one left to boot. She's such a sweet, kind, and precious person which really makes me feel for her and the situation she's in. I also love when we get to explore Shiver Star and see what was probably her old home, a desolate Earth suffering a permanent state of post-apocalyptic winter, nobody else like Adeleine in sight. It's just a shame that she has so few appearances. I attribute that lack of appearances to her exclusion from the anime on the grounds that Sakurai didn't want human characters to show up in it, the creatives taking that as them needing to leave behind Adeleine, and that decision likely single-handedly kneecapping her ability to appear in games for such a long time. I only hope that now, in a post-Star Allies world, whenever Hal decides to make another new Kirby game that starts bringing back more stuff from previous games (I'm happy with Forgotten Land being the way it is even regarding all this because that game was clearly meant to be made up of mostly original content and only a small handful of old material) that they give Adeleine another chance. Yes, she's my favorite character in the Kirby series, just in case you couldn't tell by now.
11:00 "Because emotionally abusing the audience is FUUUUN!" And Josh couldn't argue with that as a DM.
If my pfp is any indication, my most favorite Kirby Character is Marx, mainly because of his unhinged design and TerminalMontage amped it up to 11.
Let’s face it: When it comes to Kirby, there is no bigger character than King DeDeDe.
Edit: Of course he’s the MVP!
Speaking of the Mage Sisters…
Every time I hear more about their traumatic backstories, the more they always point me towards the leviathans of Hyrule in Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom. It gets even more shocking because I looked around the leviathan bones and pointed some obvious discoveries that correlate to the Mage Sisters.
Eldin Great Skeleton - a Great Flameblame is found inside the skull, and a set of four rocks forming a circle is found outside the vertebrae of rib cage… It was no Korok puzzle… Such stones in that sort of formation can indicate the site where someone died…
Hebra Great Skeleton - inside a cave at the base of the North Hebra Summit. If you exit the cave, you come across a snowfield where an inactive Guardian lies in wait to ambush Link, in Tears of the Kingdom, where the Guardian was is replaced with rubble from the sky islands when the Upheaval occurred… guarded by a Frost Gleeok… Why was that spot significant? Hm?
Gerudo Great Skeleton - In Breath, it was the site of a shrine and a fairy fountain. Surrounding the bud are Fire, Ice, and Electric Safflinas… Sound familiar? In Tears, not only was this leviathan now located in a cave where it once stood upon, but we realize it had a child that died with it… Exiting the cave will lead you to the Lightning Temple, an ancient towering structure where the Gerudo Sage of Lightning hid her Secret Stone… where Queen Gibdo is fought twice. The roof of the temple has rubble with rocks that contain rare stones that Link can collect in his inventory. And think for a moment… a towering structure in a land associated with lightning…
The Dark Skeletons…
Nobody knows the exact nature of these monstrous fossils… aside from being Gloom Spawn habitats and the where the Hero of the Wild set can be found… they all appear identical to each other… not to mention the Phantom Ganon that appears at the Gerudo Dark Skeleton is equipped with a spear… beneath a land associated with lightning… the other two had swords… The Depths are Tears’ most dangerous location. Evil is everywhere…
Not to mention…
The shocking resemblance of Francisca to Nayru. More specifically her 2D sprite model in Oracle of Ages. Flamberge having a fang (at least judging from fan art) like a certain humanoid demon, and Zan having the undying loyalty to Hyness. Undying loyalty… That’s more of a Sheikah trait… Sheikah to Hylia, Yiga to Ganon.
With all this in mind…
Was there a connection between the Mage Sisters and the leviathans of Hyrule?
W video man this is easily the best video I’ve seen so far in this year by far thank you guys for everything your awsome 😎
25:26 I knew that DeDeDe Comin At Ya would be referenced
I'd Argue DaRoach is just a straight Rogue, in 5e thirteenth level Thief Rogues can the ability to use magic items and ignores any additional rules for attuning to magic items and all of his magic if I recall comes from the magic items and nothing he does. Therefore he is a 13th level thief rogue
Woof… dude must have been alive a while to be that strong.
And so another themed month has come to a close. I saw your Sonic Month videos, and saw that Dr. Eggman was your No. 1 Sonic character.
Also, if you are open to suggestions for future game months, I would like to make a few.
1.Mega Man Month
2.Resident Evil Month
3.Metroid Month
4.Kingdom Hearts Month
5.Super Mario Bros. Month
6.Assassin's Creed Month
7.Final Fantasy Month
8.Wolfenstein Month
9.Grand Theft Auto Month
10.Call Of Duty Month
Of course, these are just suggestions. You do you, man.
Fun fact: I had a friend in high school who absolutely LOATHED Kirby. Not because she hated the games, but simply because she was creeped out by his portrayal in There Will Be Brawl. I repeatedly tried to tell her that it was a parody, but she wouldn't listen and was convinced that Kirby was nothing more than a cannibalistic serial killer. It's kind of the equivalent of hating Winnie the Pooh because of Blood and Honey.
3:42 I love how accurate this is 😂
The Smash Bro’s player in my approves of number 1.
Also they have the best hardcore theme in the series, whether it’s their 2nd phase in Triple Delxue or their first encounter in Forgotten Land, their song slaps harder than it should and I love it for it.
You forgot about Adeline from Kirby and the crystal shards or at least a honorable mention
As a Magolor fan, seeing him reach top 3 and beat Kirby and Meta Knight is well past acceptable.
Sonic could have outrun Galeem’s Death Lasers if he didn’t slow down to try and save Pikachu.
I've got a soft spot for Shadow Kirby. Throughout Amazing Mirror he looks like he's going to be another antagonist. However, by the time you're fighting Dark Mind he'll either give you healing items or return Meta Knight's sword. The post-credits reveal he was never really evil, he just saw regular Kirby and assumed the worst.
His return in Triple Deluxe was... odd. Between a radically different design and being a lot more aggressive, we didn't even know he was the same character until Fighters 2 gave him a nice mix of the two designs. Said game also gives a reason for suddenly turning hostile in Triple Deluxe: he didn't. He may not be evil, but he's not above pranks.
I love Kirby month and I hope Ari does a Pokemon top 10 list for the paradox Pokemon
30:17 i half-expected the cannon from kirby styled to look like a party howitzer.
Dedede and Miles Edgeworth are the same characters, change my mind.
2:37
I wonder if he likes Flamberge the most because she has Fire Sword.🤣
6:29 R A T R I Z Z
On top of Kirby being a father. He also befriended the one snowman that shows up in all the games. Like he befriended a snowman that was an assassin, and his friendship with him made him not only turn against king DDD but also his creator. Leading to his death and the episode ends showing yes he's DEAD.
I remember when Forgotten Land first released, and everyone was shooting murder glances at Elfilin, expecting him to backstab us like every other Kirby character in the past few games. But for me, I had faith that he would still be on our side. He’s just so lovable and helpful, wanting to do everything to help protect the Waddle Dees. It warmed my heart when I realized that by the end, he was never gonna be the villain, my faith finally kept in tact.
A friend of mine was saying that this was probably the best outcome since he was PART of the ultimate villain but was also our friend, so it made theorists on both sides happy
Instead of being an evil backstabber, he just the good half of an omnicidal maniac and wanted to defeat the evil half once Kirby ran into it
I'm surprised Hardin wasn't mention what with Sectonia
Trying to not make the FE references too overwhelming, but we did mention it in Surprisingly Dark Games for a bit
Just point out the thing on susie's description of mechanizing planets like her father isn't canon is from the translation kinda like mega man 7's ending
She still uses extreme measures to ensure the supposed peace, so the context is still more or less the same. The translation doesn't bring up that she's trying to bring peace, but we did.
@@CountShaman I just followed from what I could gather from RPG monger's vid when he covered FL's lore
Can you imagine if Bowser and Eggman got the Dedede treatment?
I still hope one day that Kirby Right back at Yah will have a full English/Japanese series DVD collection for America one day I miss the show :(
Kirby characters are just made for pure love and joy, with some heldrich horror backstory to give it a nice twist! I love Kirby and his friends, and I can't wait to see what adventures they’ll go on next!
The ending to Dedede's Revenge from Superstar Ultra was *the* moment where he earned my complete and utter respect. First we got him telling bandana dee to escape the castle before Kirby's rampage crosses his path, and Bandana Dee stays. Hell, even after Kirby kicks his ass, he finds his way to the arena to cheer for Dedede.
And then the credits.
You *cannot* tell me, that Dedede is a horrible king when all those dees are still willing to follow him after his defeat. And the smile he gives when they start appearing is so heart warming.
10:55 i still remember how everyone was giving elflin the middle finger because everyone thought they were gonna pull a magalor/marx before the game came out
Technically they were partially right. Elfillin is part of the twist and final boss. The only problem is that he literally is the body's conscious given form.
@@castform7 i know, i was just pointing that out
Susie doesn't mechanize planets...in the Japanese version.
That countdown was De-de-delightful!
Thanks for Kirby month, it was wonderful and fun!
The King of course gets the number one spot as he deserves.
I'm surprised escargoon or the nightmare enterprise's spokesperson weren't at least mentioned considering they are the best part of the anime by far
Dang, Ari was rightfully peeved there.
Edit: 26:13: "It's *revenge,* and it's best served cold!"
Edit 2: King Dedede with a southern accent? What kind of royalty is he?
A cool detail about Meta Knight’s character in forgotten land, he actually takes on the role of protector of Waddle Dee town whenever Kirby’s away. Remember Goromando, the giant gorilla? Meta Knight had to fend him off 30 times! And he won every single time!
Yeah the mechanizing planets and people was a mistranslation.
28:51 anyone else creeped out by the idea of a playground during the apocalypse?
The D man got it. Was there really any doubt. I think he has the most notable character growth in the series, actually trying to be a good enough King to the land he barged into and proclaimed a monarchy in.
Plus I don't think people give anime Dedede enough credit. A lot of fans credit him for the misconception of him still being a villain which....yes the anime doesn't really help but not only is he just funny, he also does have some character to him. Multiple episodes showcase how Dedede is more of a manchild who craves attention, usually taking it to the extreme because he has the money and power to do so. That "crying at Kirby's funeral" episode has the context of everyone getting a dedicated day of appreciation and gifts. Dedede tries his hardest to get his own but literally no one likes him for obvious reasons. Even when Kirby, quite literally the only person there who likes him comes with a gift in the form of a watermelon, Dedede sees it as a prank because it was eaten by someone who should not be trusted with food gifts. The King, as usual, blows it out of proportion which leads to the prank discussed in the video. Funny thing is, while it was a bunch of bomb watermelons, Dedede is fully banking on Kirby surviving even trying to get a gift for him from N.M.E. Dedede's actions were, in every way possible, just a prank bro. I'm not saying anime Dedede is necessarily a good person or developed character, he does kinda go back to his scheming ways every episode and this idea of him just wanting people to acknowledge him never gets expanded, but I will say he was probably the most entertaining thing about Right Back at Ya for many reasons. Another W for the king if you ask me.
Honestly: Thought it was gonna be either Magolor or Dedede at number 1. Frankly, it could have gone either way. For a relatively simple series, we get some truly wonderful characters.
I called the Dedede number one pick but that’s not at all surprising or incorrect.
24:15 I feel like I figured out why Edelgard went down the quick was route instead of doing the more methodical way. She was low on time, like Lysithea before her, she was short on years and decided to get things done while she's still alive. Is it morally correct? Far from it, I'm sure if it were up to her, she would've done it the proper way of bringing the empire to a more self-sustaining methodology of hard work over Crests. However, due to Those Who Slither In the Dark probably would've undo anything she would've set out to do. So she brute forced it.
Though I feel like she should've asked for the church for help FIRST to deal with the Agarthans (like she did in Three Hopes) THEN tell the church off and replace the church, with some resistance from the Kingdom and probably joining forces with the Alliance now turned Federation.
Anyway tangent aside, good video. May the pink puff ball forever bring us smiles.............also remaster Crystals Shards dammit! Please Nintendo/HAL Laboratories.
That's why King Dedede is the best Kirby character, his development was the best of all characters.
25:33 Was not expecting him, I've seen Dedede on a lot of hated characters lists.
The King has returned!
27:20 king dedede does have an exorcist on his payroll. he pays him in desserts.
the name is kirby
22:37
(Snicker)
Is it bad I laughed at this?
I hope Hal makes a future Kirby game that finally reveals, explore and develop the franchise's biggest mysteries. Like a secret origin for Kirby, the Ancients, bigger stakes with more daring consequences, more epic boss battles in the same level as Magolor and Fecto Elfilis, and so on.
3:50 Well he saved them when he did lost his marbles and now you see him with his marbles lost.
Let's never forget one part of what makes Magalor a famous Kirby character and thats a certain famous voice if you know what I'm refering to you know exacly how much you laughed at that sudden betrayal voice
If I can add in on Susie's story, Max Haltmann was constantly using Star Dream to bring her back from the dead, which failed due to her not actually dying. All of the constant use ofcthe artificial clockwork star did damage to his mind, making him forget his daughter almost entirely until it was way too late (when his mind ans soul was absorbedby Star Dream). Also, that "teach him a lesson" and "mechanize planets" were semi-mistranslations, actually saying her wish was to "make him (her dad) wake up (come to his senses) with tears in his eyes" and what she was doing after KPR was turning HAL works co. into a better company, giving happier lives to the planets in its care... and exterminate the 'uncivilized'.
I take the "teaching him a lesson" part as a subtext that's meant to be read between, with the meaning behind it being, as you said "waking him up". It's less obvious, but I think figuring that out is part of what makes it so cool.
Wasn't expecting King Dedede being number 1 not that I think he's a bad character just Wasn't expecting him to be that high
Huge honorable mention: Kracko, the single best recurring antagonist. Yes, I even rank him above Dark Matter! Ancient eldritch origins? Redemption? Tragic past? Nah! Been there, done that! Kracko's a Kirby Hater to the core, or rather, eyeball(are we sure this guy isn't dark matter?). Simple, an iconic design, and an unrelenting spite. Sometimes that's all you need.
My honorable mentions:
The Ancients (Various)
Who they are or what they are, nobody seems to know. All we do know is that they are responsible for most of the franchise’s mysterious lore.
Animal Friends (Kirby’s Dreamland 2 and 3)
Rick the hamster, Kine the fish, Coo the owl, Nago the cat, Chuchu the octopus, and Pitch the bird. All equally adorable and ready to aid Kirby in his adventures.
Escargoon (Kirby Right Back At Ya)
Dedede’s right hand snail who’s always eager to help out in whatever crazy scheme the king’s got cooking up.
BTW, he’s of the few characters from the anime who made a brief appearance in the games, specifically the Kirby Quest minigame in Mass Attack.
The Kirby Species (Various)
Turns out that Kirby’s not the only powerhouse puffball in Dreamland.
Leongar And Clawroline (Kirby And The Forgotten Land)
Rulers of the animal kingdom who became tragic victims of Fecto Forgo.
You know something, this is the second time Josh has put a main hero's rival on the number one spot
You got something a bit wrong with the Mage Sisters, namely the ending for the extra story. It doesn't just stay with them dead like that but if you look carefully, you'll see a dark aura appear around them all while an ominous sound plays as it does.
And those of us Kirby veterans may recognize that sound from Kirby 64 if you got the bad ending where the fairy queen, after waving bye to Kirby and co., glances over at Ribbon with an evil glare.
The fun thing I think about Dedede's Development is in Star Allies, he's brought into the plot by stealing food, and the game explicitly says this isn't something he would do
You know a character's come a long way if the first thing they were introduced doing is considered an Out of Character moment
Kid Danger: *wearing his mighty pup movie outfit* let's face it: Kirby is so Pawesome! Even his friends are Pawsome too!
POYO!!!!
Throughout the series Kirby has some very interesting characters ranging from the friendly animal companions, tough rivals that occasionally become allies, and of course the beings are nightmare inducing with terrifying lore behind them. Looking forward to seeing which ones will be mentioned.
It’s kind of interesting that how in the Top 10 Sonic characters, a very powerful copy bot was number 4 and in this favorite list, a copy character (the main character and a powerful one at that) also made it to number 4. And they are my favorite characters from their respective series.
Fun Fact: Plus Zelda and Sonic Month, the #4 are all the ones I passionately candidated for the list. Emerl for Sonic and Linebeck for Zelda. Originally, I was expecting Susie to be #4 on this list since she falls into that category, but the writers agreed to bump her up to #2 because of her complexity, so Kirby is #4 instead, yet in a way, it still works out since he too is my boy.
@@CountShamando you think Kirby and Emerl would be friends?
Don't lie, we're all here to see who ranks under Dedede.
Dedede is such a great character, as was mentioned guy was willing to sacrifice him self for a Waddle Dee which is instant respect from me. A King who is willing to sacrifice them self for their subjects is the kind of King I woudn't be opposed to working under
12:38 Besides, Super Star suffers the same problem a s Megamn 7 and Final Fantasy IX, where the translators took themselves some... liberties. With the dialogue
When he said I got something even better I expected the Party Howitzer (I think that's how it's spelt).
11:00
Spiderman: "Not for us."
27:19 *that moment when you realize bandana dee **_was_** supposed to be that exorcist in context of the games*
...huh. dreamland doesn't study voodoo.
Good to know 😊
I didn’t know that.
@jaketaller8567 I mean it'd make sense, if we assume ultra is supposed to be am alternate timeline that literally took place _after dreamland 2_
Would make sense he'd hire something to cure him.
Not to mention he wasn't wrong on his foresight, guess what happened two years later?
...epic yarn, he gets possessed.
AGAIN.
My favourite character will always be Marx.... I love that hungry jester!
A Josh and Shaman video why didn't I come here sooner!!!
Hail to the King (Dedede), baby!
Of course Dedede is number 1.
He’s voiced by Sakurai after all.