Dune - Father Son Talk Scene - Timothee Chalamet, Oscar Isaac
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Paul Atreides: Dad, what if I'm not the future of House Atreides?
Duke Leto Atreides: A great man doesn't seek to lead; he is called to it. But if your answer is no, you'd still be the only thing I ever needed you to be: my son.
Dune (2021)
Directed by: Denis Villeneuve
Screenplay by: Denis Villeneuve, Eric Roth
Stars: Timothée Chalamet, Oscar Isaac, Rebecca Ferguson, Zendaya
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"You'll still be the only thing I ever needed you to be,My son."
This line alone sold me on Leto and his relationship with his son.
It was such a refreshing line too. I feel like in most movies in relationships like these the father forces something unto the child the child does not want and the filmmakers try to create drama out of it, but in Dune it's just a wholesome moment.
I'm not sure how I feel about his relationship with his mother though, I believe she loves him, but she has torn loyalties to her people that I wonder if it came down to it, whether she'd be able to choose being a mother over them. I don't know, just get Teresa vibes from her, like she wants to support the hero, but differing priorities could lead to a betrayal. (Please don't spoil it for me, I haven't read the books, so I know nothing at this point.)
@@r-giireactions2235the book plays this mother-son dynamic pretty heavily and idk how Villeneuve played it out in the movie but 8’m excited to see how it goes.
Jessica’s motives and behaviour is much more nebulous in the books. Same with Leto but the movie protrays a more loving family dynamic.
Leto always respected Paul and was very proud of how he grew and this can be seen more in depth in the books by Leto's inner thoughts and interactions with Paul. An Example of which can be when they're hosting a dinner for some of the important people of Arrakis and Paul debates with a few of them, and they dismiss his thoughts simply because he's a child but Leto supports him by telling them to not consider Paul a child. And subsequently Leto has to leave and immediately has Paul take over for him as host. The scene is much more in depth with different things happening and sets the tone for a lot of different things and gives context towards the plot which is why it's a shame Villeneuve left it out of the movie, but I understand why he did too.
i cried so bad for Leto's fate and almost quit reading
... still my favourite character... What an absolute gem of a man
In Dune 2: "Father... I found my way" was beautiful!
when?
@@haot2041There's a scene where he takes off the ring. I think it's after he gets the name Muadib
@@ravenmariusand he takes the ring off because its not the atreides way right? the same is told by the Emperor at the end, that Paul is much different from his father. And that made Leto less successful or something, dont remember properly.
I think actually he says he's actually similar to his father and that was his weakness which paul then showed him that it's not a weakness.@@igor.vysoky
Thanks for the spoiler
the difference between "somehow palpatine has returned" and this shows how important good writing really is
Oscar does what he can with what he's given. Sometimes that isn't much. Other times it's this scene.
“They don’t know which way is up out there”
Umm…what?
I don’t know, I think he deserves an Oscar just for being able to deliver that line with a straight face.
Meaning... What?
I know right? Damn JJ Abrams!
''Your father was a weak man '' quote made me come back here. He was anything but weak.
When he said that all in my mind was "Bold words for a Bene Gesserit puppet"
He was strong enough to be gentle, something we must all stride to be
The emperor is full of shit and knows it and just wanted to hurt Paul with that.
he was so weak it took decades of Harkonnen spice mining profits and the vilest of betrayals to take him down
He wasn't exactly the book emperor. Book emperor feared Leto because he (1) was popular for exactly the character being portrayed in this scene, and (2) he was putting together an army that was within a hair of being as competent and effective as the Sardaukar using the talents of Duncan Idaho and Gurney Halleck to train them. Reconciling book emperor to movie emperor, at the end, the emperor spouted BS to goad Paul into an ill-advised duel hoping to end him that way. He didn't genuinely think Leto was weak.
I like how Oscar Isaac changed the line from "My father..." to "Your grandfather...".
Its very suble but it keeps Paul at the heart of the conversation.
Good catch
Also changing “good man” to “great man” - it implies how much more impactful a great leader is
"I wanted to be a pilot."
Well, he'd have been one hell of a pilot!!!!
And it's great that we saw him do exactly that a bit later in the film! 😊
and now this is podracing
Can we admit that standing alone the force awakens was great?
@@noahclark7603 It is
@noahclark7603 TFA is in my top 5 films of last decade. It’s unfortunate that the latter two movies ruin it but yea standalone I love it
the fact that the line was “what if i’m not?” and timothée put in the word “dad” just makes this scene even better
Interesting take, you're right, makes him seem more relatable, more human, rather than a just the overtly cool protagonist
Pretty sure he says "what if I'm not that"...
@@Seminole333 clear d's so he's saying "dad"
👏👏👏👏
Muslims believe that a time will come when the world will be full of tyranny and would become a very depressing place to live. Then a man named mahdi will come from progeny of Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him). He would be perfect to lead Muslim nations. But he will never seek to lead. He would be called to it.
Another great line: "A great man doesn't seek to lead. He's called to it and he answers."
not in this scene but another good line from leto/oscar : "Here i am, Here i remain"
This line means so much more now with how Part 2 unfolded. Great writing.
I love how Leto doesn't just repeat his father's words, but gives his son his own
I really love Óscar Isaac as leto. You can see he is a noble leader but also a lovely father
As someone who has grown tired of seeing monarchies and royal houses and whatnot, I liked House Atredies the most. Leto seemed like a great leader but also an empathetic and noble one. He was not afraid to be up close, nuanced, and personal. He even treated the people of Arrakis as people.
@@kaylons When portrayed in fiction, royalty/nobility either fall into Disney-like fairytale perfect heroes or one-note mustache-twirling villains. Too much idealization or too much demagoguery. It takes good writers to show the nuance and humanity of what are essentially the rarest breed in terms of historical social heriarchy.
@@kaylonshe was not a noble leader, but a humble one. An actually down-to-earth person who appreciated the smaller things in life. A leader who treated his subjects and subordinates, and those whom he did not benefit off of, with compassion and respect.
That's what earned House Atreides their great reputation. And great power, thanks to greats like Duncan Idaho & Gurney Hallek entering their ranks.
Hmm, he sucks you know why? Bcs Jared Leto would do much better job.
@@BFG-hv2ml Agreed. Then we would have gotten to see Leto saying “It’s Atreides Time” and Atreidesed all over the Harkonnens.
My dad sends me this clip every time I go through a bout with depression and say I feel like a disappointment. It really does help.
That's so sweet 😭 I hope you're doing better ❤
W dad. This is all I strive to be as a father; I’m very glad you have a parent love that I’m your life 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Your dad sounds like a great man. Someone a lot of men can learn from.
Been there, still am there. Much love
What a great dad
Paul’s look of relief when he realizes Leto is truly a great father- it’s so universal, and so beautiful. This movie is far beyond film. I hope to show this to my own son one day.
Mi hijo me lo mostró a mí y ayer lo volví a ver y encontré el gran sentido ❤
I love love love that beat that Leto puts in after 'if your answer is no'- the look on Pauls face is one of slight apprehension, as if his father is about to tell him that if he doesn't become a leader than something bad will happen. But then its a statement of unconditional love and support, and you can see such a subtle change in Pauls face to one of surprise...
even the score kind of ties into this, with just reverberating strings to fill the uncertain gap
That part was indeed incredible. I remember thinking something like "Oh shit Leto's gonna be a classic stout father going on and on about duty and responsibility". But then, no. He's a father who wants first and foremost for his son to live a good life (But of course Paul being Duke Atreides would have been Leto's favorite outcome).
Barely 5 minutes and it builds this relationship better than some full length films. This is very careful, thoughtful writing and its beautiful.
A modern movie that actually portrays a great father-son relationship.
I saw this movie with my dad, this scene was truly touching.
💟💯
That’s crazy. I did the same.
I did too, it was surreal. I grew up being mostly estranged from my father and have struggled a lot with identity and love. I was falling asleep during the first part of it but woke up at this moment to hear this dialogue. It was like a moment from God I will remember for the rest of my life.
@@justincruz5720 so whats crazy about it if u did the same thing lol..
@@GoreTheSummoner It’s not crazy. I lied. It was just a coincidence that was bound to happen.
Too often we're presented with a black and white, generations at odds with each other. It was both refreshing and touching to see a healthy and understanding interaction.
they both understood each others part in the great plan. amazing how a simple dialog can deliver lots of information
It seems like Timothee Chalamet always gets the best fathers in his films. Other examples of this are Call me by your name and Beautiful boy.
He also got tom cooper in Interstellar
also the best mother in Wonka ❤
Not in The King, though..
Forgot how atmospheric the film was, gotta rewatch it asap
"And if your answer is no, you'll still be the only thing I need you to be; my son."
THAT LINE!!!!
IF only every parent in the world supported their child's choice like Leto does with Paul. That's a good father!
Changing "My father" to "your grandfather" somehow improves the line.
It softens the impact and sounds more affectionate to Paul.
@@jalpat2272 Agreed. Also, calling Paul's grandfather as just "my father" would create a certain disconnect between him and his late family.
The music, the way both Timothée and Oscar present the scene, literally everything is perfect about this scene. It teared me up and gave me goosebumps at the same time.
Just gotta say. Amazing acting from Timothée and Óscar here and incredible directing from Denis. Hans Zimmer's music is just so majestic during this conversation. It's like poetry.
whats the name of the song in the backfground? is it pauls dream?
Damn, this didnt exist in the book.
But it's a good scene. Tells of his love for his son in its easy to digest movie format.
It's interesting how the 2 best scenes of the father son relationship from this movie and the 1984 version are not originally in the book (the 1984 Dune scene being "ill miss the sea"). Kind of shows how poorly the book handled characters and treated them like backdrops and the movies had to fix it
It's really an excellent addition. Piles onto the notion that Leto was naive and perceived to be weak. Maybe he just had half the mind to be decent
@@HyunaTheHyena Oh nonono.. I would totally disagree. These scenes had to be added BECAUSE the movie format cannot contain everything going on in the omniscient perspective we the reader are presented with in Frank Herbert's Dune, where every of the character's thoughts are words on a page, and not necessarily said out loud. VERY hard to adapt that into a movie format without taking up a lot of time.
Characters like backdrops? I dont even know if we're talking about the same Dune lol.
@@justincruz8050 if that's the case, it's an iffy addition at best in that regard. Leto knew what he was doing. He knew Arrakis was a trap, but he was not given a choice and formulated his strategy with "desert power" instead. A plan that would only come into fruitation sadly after his own passing. This is a man with great foresight. He did not expect however, the emperor to send Sardaukar to aid the Harkonnen in their risky attack on Arrakis, an unprecedented move in the power balance of the known universe.
Nobody thought the Atreides weak. The emperor had to secretly shatter them especially because they were getting too strong.
@@pwnwin I am not implying that Leto was actually weak or actually naive, but that other characters assumed this of him. His willingness to show empathy and true bonding creates a real contrast with other characters, so it's no stretch of the imagination that other characters witness these qualities of Leto and assume him naive.
This scene alone is so strong and realistic, its amazing...6 oscars, well done Academy
And this is from the guy who doesn't like dialogue in his films, but he still knows how to use it right
'I wanted to be a pilot'
Well maybe in another universe long ago and in a galaxy far far away...
we don't speak of that atrocity
That's the past vision that pushed Paul to carry out the Jihad.
I was so relieved hearing this line because the "I need to live up to my fathers expectations" trope is so annoying and iverdone, having a father whos just glad to have his son is so much more interesting.
I REALLY like how the actors either improvised/were directed to use proper titles (Dad, Grandfather) since an Atreides would absolutely use that proper diction in their speech
Made a grown man tear up
OSCAR ISSACS ACTING IS TOO GOOD AHH
This reminds me of the times I visit the local national cemetery where my dad is buried. Looking at the tombstones, I know I'm in the company of heroes, but I'm the son of one.
they're way too good in this scene. vulnerability at its finest sometimes brings power. this scene alone gave me all that
Rewatching on my Dad’s birthday today. This whole sequence is so well paced and seemingly genuine. I feel like this is what he has been trying to tell me all these years. Denis Villeneuve constructed a magnificent film, and I think this was the most powerful scene.
"I found my way, father".
Easily the best line in the entire film!
So. Fucking. Powerful.
Oscar Isaac is really passionate in this movie, meanwhile in another galaxy far far away he's rolling his eyes while quoting "somehow palpatine returned"
Rarest thing in fiction - good parenting
I will tell my son this one day when he is unsure in life
What every kid needs to hear
Man this scene is so tragic after seeing the cause Paul “chose” To lead in the sequel
The problem of Prescience is that it robs you of "Choice"
In the end, it was the only way for the Fremen and himself to win based on the clear vision he saw later. It was identical to Dr Strange's Infinity War' "one timeline' moment.
I would argue what Paul did in the second film is what what Leto said here "a great man doesn't seek to lead. He is called to it and he answers". That's exactly what happened. Some of the Fremen kept insisting he is the Lisan Al Gaib and he resisted it and even got mad at his mom in that one scene for further spreading the propoganda that he is the messiah. And he later said to Gurney "they used to be friends, now they are followers" cos Gurney scolded him for not exploring the Fremen further.
Paul is called to lead even though he doesn't want to. He resisted as much as he could but took it because there was no other option that didn't involve the Fremen and him losing. The only other option was for the Harkonnen/Carinos to win.
@@kicapanmanis1060 exactly and that’s what makes it so tragic to me. To save everyone he had to doom so many others
Leto: I found my own way to it maybe you’ll find yours.
Paul. -becomes a sandy time wizard-
Paul becomes a genocidal sandy time wizard.
Time Roulette, GO!
Imagine if Tywin told Jamie this. Things might have been different
or Tyrion?
Fav scene in the movie
Same
With just one line, he lifted such a heavy weight off Paul's shoulders. That's good parenting right there.
I always cry a little when watching this scene. My own father was an alcoholic and died because of that few years ago. Most of my life i was angry at him and hated him. One day i even said that he's not my father. When i saw him last time we had short conversation. It was a little bit awkward, but i felt that he cared about me and that i always be his son.
“Youre still the only thing I ever needed you to be, my son”
The only person in Paul’s life who didn’t pressure a role onto him.
I found my way father.
Caladan has been the home for house Atreides fo 26 Generations.
This just makes Part 2 even sadder. Because his mother shared the exact opposite philosophy.
His mother only adopted it after drinking the Water of Life. Before that she tried to get him off revenge while he wanted it.
Also in the end, his mom was correct. Taking it was the best option for the Fremen and Paul. Paul's clear visions later told him all the other paths lead to them losing.
I wished if my father would tell me something like this
I think about this scene every week
Best movie of the year.
Even after the spectacle of Dune Part 2 my brain still goes back to this scene. It’s so honest and noble. Duke Leto gave his son the freedom of choice when nobody else did.
I was on the fence about watching Dune and this getting recommended to me was what finally convinced me to watch it. Just in time to catch part 2 in theaters too.
This is the film the man deserved
That moment when you realize that...Leto was LITERALLY "too good" for that universe...
Felt like watching this movie again last night. This was one of my favorite scenes.
Somehow, the Quizat Haderach returned.
The Atreides are Greek descendants. They carry that sense of honoring past heroes.
Huh? They aren't real. I'll never understand the obsession with other people's accomplishments, go out in the world and make something of yourself. Stop resting in other people's laurels
@@ahmorgan
We can dance if we want to
We can leave your friends behind
'Cause your friends don't dance
And if they don't dance
Well, they're no friends of mine
Say, we can go where we want to
A place where they will never find
And we can act like we come
From out of this world
Leave the real one far behind
And we can dance
Or sing
We can go when we want to
Night is young and so am I
And we can dress real neat
From our hats to our feet
And surprise 'em with the victory cry
Say, we can act if we want to
If we don't, nobody will
And you can act real rude and totally removed
And I can act like an imbecile
And say, we can dance, we can dance
Everything's out of control
We can dance, we can dance
They're doing it from pole to pole
We can dance, we can dance
Everybody look at your hands
We can dance, we can dance
Everybody's taking the chance
Safety dance
Oh well, the safety dance
Ah yes, the safety dance
We can dance if we want to
We've got all your life and mine
As long as we abuse it, never gonna lose it
Everything'll work out right
I say, we can dance if we want to
We can leave your friends behind
Because your friends don't dance
And if they don't dance
Well, they're no friends of mine
I say, we can dance, we can dance
Everything's out of control
We can dance, we can dance
We're doing it from pole to pole
We can dance, we can dance
Everybody look at your hands
We can dance, we can dance
Everybody's taking the chance
Oh well, the safety dance
Ah yes, the safety dance
Oh well, the safety dance
Oh well, the safety dance
Oh yes, the safety dance
Oh, the safety dance, yeah
Well, it's the safety dance
It's the safety dance
Well, it's the safety dance
Well, it's the safety dance
Oh, it's the safety dance
Oh, it's the safety dance
@@ahmorgan
You could never know what it's like
Your blood, like winter, freezes just like ice
And there's a cold, lonely light that shines from you
You'll wind up like the wreck you hide behind that mask you use
And did you think this fool could never win?
Well look at me, I'm a-coming back again
I got a taste of love in a simple way
And if you need to know while I'm still standing
You just fade away
Don't you know I'm still standing better than I ever did?
Looking like a true survivor, feeling like a little kid
And I'm still standing after all this time
Picking up the pieces of my life without you on my mind
I'm still standing (yeah, yeah, yeah)
I'm still standing (yeah, yeah, yeah)
Once, I never coulda hoped to win
You starting down the road, leaving me again
The threats you made were meant to cut me down
And if our love was just a circus, you'd be a clown by now
You know I'm still standing better than I ever did
Looking like a true survivor, feeling like a little kid
And I'm still standing after all this time
Picking up the pieces of my life without you on my mind
I'm still standing (yeah, yeah, yeah)
I'm still standing (yeah, yeah, yeah)
@@ahmorgan
While the poor people sleepin'
With the shade on the light
While the poor people sleepin'
All the stars come out at night
After closing time
At the Guernsey Fair
I detect the El Supremo
From the room at the top of the stairs
Well I've been around the world
And I've been in the Washington Zoo
And in all my travels
As the facts unravel
I've found this to be true
While the poor people sleepin'
With the shade on the light
While the poor people sleepin'
All the stars come out at night
After closing time
At the Guernsey Fair
I detect the El Supremo
From the room at the top of the stairs
Well I've been around the world
And I've been in the Washington Zoo
And in all my travels
As the facts unravel
I've found this to be true
They got the house on the corner
With the rug inside
They got the booze they need
All that money can buy
They got the shapely bods
They got the Steely Dan T-shirt
And for the coup-de-gras
They're outrageous
While the poor people sleepin'
With the shade on the light
While the poor people sleepin'
All the stars come out at night
After closing time
At the Guernsey Fair
I detect the El Supremo
From the room at the top of the stairs
Well I've been around the world
And I've been in the Washington Zoo
And in all my travels
As the facts unravel
I've found this to be true
Show biz kids making movies
Of themselves you know they
Don't give a fuck about anybody else
While the poor people sleepin'
With the shade on the light
While the poor people sleepin'
All the stars come out at night
After closing time
At the Guernsey Fair
I detect the El Supremo
From the room at the top of the stairs
Well I've been around the world
And I've been in the Washington Zoo
And in all my travels
As the facts unravel
I've found this to be true
This is what a father should be. Not a stone-faced gentlemen who barely speak or praise their kid while keeping those bottled in their heart
This combination of script and performance is so cool. Very interesting to see how the small changes made by the actor tonally change it.
This scene makes letos later death so much harder cuz he’s such a good dad.
The genius of that scene lies in foreshadowing. Read between the words.
The past - old duke, having price and hubris to try wrestling with the bull. He failed good duties and his family.
The prezent Duke Leto is reminding hisson about duties while himself taking the Harkonnens and the emperors trap believings he can win.
The future choice of Paul...well...
Hats of to Mr Villeneuve.
Oscar changed it just perfectly in the moment, while respecting the original purpose of each line. It’s great.
I wish this video would of held out on the music just like 10 more seconds but still thanks for the upload
i want him to be my father
This scene brings me to tears every single time
Masterclass in Fatherhood right there.
"I found my way to it. Maybe you'll find yours."
Paul's way: FANATICAL LEGIONS WORSHIPPING AT THE SHRINE OF MY FATHER'S SKULL
In their memory.
Love this movie ♥️ look for see Dune part two when is come out in theater again♥️♥️ both are good actors♥️♥️
Thank you for the script in the video as well
Timothee Calamet is just 17 years younger than Oscar Issac and just 12 years younger than Rebecca Ferguson
Timmy's Paul is not 15 like in the book, he's more like 18-20. Jessica was a mother young and Leto was a bit older than her (he's 50 in the book, while in the movie he's probably early-mid 40s, and she's probably late 30s maybe 40)
Good god i love this screenplay
When i tell you they shot this scene in front of my house😆😆
If you think this heartwarming wait until read the book version… their relationship as father and son will make you bawl your eyes off by the end of the first book. This literally was a spiritual bond between them in which both felt their presence in different places.
imo the best scene of dune
I came here for the screenplay but damn its hard not to notice the score. Hanz you damn genius
What if Tyrion Lannister was raised by Duke Leto?
He would have been loved and respected for his ingenuity and common sense.
He's the God of something spicy either way.
SPOILER
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Paul still ends up killing billions in his jihad
@@GalaxyGal- how a'paul'ing!!!😆
One of the countless superb moments in this film.
I’ve never seen this movie before and know very little about it, but holy cow, the MUSIC!
The nailed the casting on these films, you can really feel Timothee could pass as Oscar and Rebecca's son.
Damn Oscar was so good in this scene. He's not in the movie that long, but when he gets taken out by the Baron you really miss him and are impacted by the loss.
Leto was one of the best pilots when he used to be with the Resistance fighting against the First Order but spice running was too lucrative so he went back to his roots to help run the family business.
I wish we have more fathers like that ambitious yet allow their children to be honest with their father and to themselves for what future they wants to pursue.
Paul and Leo demonstrate good father son relationship which I really like I'm so much like my Mom since I'm a Momma's girl just like Paul the son of his Dad
I think a major reason why I can’t stand many major movies nowadays, especially Superhero movies, is because of the death of sincerity. At every Avenue possible they crack a joke or start laughing etc. and basically take out the sincerity of that moment. Imagine Paul had made some dumb self aware joke after his father said this to him. It would absolutely ruin this scene.
I think it’s because marvel started with it and got very successful and everyone tried to copy it.
I love how this movie portrays a loving and respectful relationship between Paul and his father. In this scene, his father is gentle and understanding. Later, when Paul almost dies because he gets a vision during the rescue of the spice harvesting crew, Leto is stern and makes sure Paul knows he messed up; and Paul’s reaction is “Yes, sir. It won’t happen again.” Which shows a healthy respect for his father.
Damn! Leto really was THAT guy.
Oscar issac deserved as Oscar
Yet another proof of why Villeneuve's Dune saga is more than spectacular sci-fi.
This scene makes me wonder why the heck didn't Yueh ask Leto for help. I'm sure they would've figured something out about Yueh's wife. It would be better than betray him.
He found his Way.
Leto's death was the saddest part in the first movie. He was such a good character.
F*ck the Bene Gesserit and their intrigues 🤬
“I found my way”
"And if your answer is no, you’ll still be the only thing I ever needed you to be: my son"
OH, DEAR LORD, THE FORESHADOWING!!!!!
Imagine this scene inserted in the ending of dune 3, when paul turned completly opposite of himself.
Like in godfather 2 ending.
This was probably my favorite scene of the first movie
I wish I had a father like that ❤