Tsze-kung wished to do away with the offering of a sheep connected with the inauguration of the first day of each month. The Master said, "Ts'ze, you love the sheep; I love the ceremony." The Master said, "The full observance of the rules of propriety in serving one's prince is accounted by people to be flattery." - Confucius, The Analects - 3 IE: People utilize ceremony to cement the importance of events, and to help them pay psychologically sufficient respect to those they admire or honor.
The Herald’s delivery at the end is perfect. You can reasonably doubt he’d be privy to the emperor’s plans… but as glacial as his expression might seem you can almost see a hint of pity there if you want to. Like he knows full well what’s been done here.
Anyone in that Universe would know that the Harkonnens would never leave Dune without extracting a high price. The herald didn't have to know the Emperor's whole game to know that Leto was in deep trouble.
In reality, while the Herald may not specifically be told of any plans, when you are that close to the hub of the wheel of power, you learn to discern what is afoot while officially knowing nothing thereof. You do this both for your own safety, and for the efficiency of performing your job with the tone appropriate for the instance. The Herald knew full-well what had just transpired.
Duke Leto and the Atreides (namely his advisors, Gurney for instance) knew that the Harkonenns would probably try to reclaim Arrakis from them. What they didn't expect was for the Emperor himself to betray the Atreides and send the Sardaukar to wipe them out. In the book the Sardaukar are disguised in Harkonnen armor, while in this movie they aren't disguised and are immediately recognized as the fearsome Sardaukar. Just like this scene, although that wasn't in the book, I believe adding it to the movie was just another testament to Denis Villenueve's genius as a director to make that change for the sake of a more cinematograpic scene. Truly excellent directing from Villeneuve.
@@stephenhoward6829 nah, people in power keep these thing very close to their heart. how does the emperor knows the herald isn't a spy? Emperor usually use unofficial servant to do their secret plan, this way those in the administration will not know, and no one will be able to form a full picture to blackmail the emperor. Emperor of old are alot wiser than today's president who only have a few years of experience. emperor spend their entirely life fighting for power, they are not given the throne without a fight between brothers. in their princling stage, they would learn to develop their own shadow loyalist that is not in the government, you wouldn't want your emperor father to know you are plotting against your own brothers.
The final exchange between the herald and the duke is chilling. They both know what’s up, but both know they must carry out their duties. I love the dune universe!
Agreed. Leto knew that House Atreides was being set up to fail, and that this was in all likelihood a trap, but honor demanded that he accept. Likewise, the herald also knew that House Atreides was walking into a trap, but he has his role and his duty, as much as Leto did.
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This scene wasn't in the book. When I first saw it, it felt so well executed and to fit so perfectly in the plot, that surely it had to be part of the source material. Only after I read the books did I understand that it was actually one of Villeneuve's own contributions. This really makes one appreciate the creative process behind movies in general, and this one in particular. I think it takes a special kind of director to understand, confidently, where and what to change the source material to make it more cinematographic.
This provides the incredible scale of galactic technology and sets the scene for the betrayal of House Atreides by the Emperor, the Spacing Guild and the Bene Gesserit. Paul's instinctive revulsion of the Imperium and its power factions begins here and plants the seed of the Jihad of Muad'Dib.
the way he can immerse himself in the world of the story he's making music for is inhuman the music sounds so different considering the vibe of the world/universe that the story happens in
Possibly Zimmer getting some a that juice of Sapho as well... "It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains. The stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion." Repeat until movie score is complete. 🤣
I love the fact that this movie doesn't show the Emperor -- makes him seem more powerful and mysterious. I also love the fact that the book and movie refer to him as the "Emperor of the Known Universe" implying that there are still vast reaches of space that have not yet been conquered.
@@zeyther3341 the navigators aren't really in the first book, and the emporer doesn't show up until the end of book 1. Dune Pt. 2 will have the emporer. I also wouldn't be surprised if they show more of the navigators then are actually in the book, because Denis Villeneuve might only get to portray them in the 2nd part. He wants to make Dune Messiah as a third film, but that hasn't been greenlit yet.
I love how you can sense that by signing the seal with his ring, Leto is also _literally_ signing not only his family's but his own fate, and that he's aware that this may very well be the end of him. Excellent directing of an excellently written scene.
They both know this is essentially a terribly elaborate assassination to secure the Emperor's power: the two most influential houses after the imperial house is Atradies (respected by the people) and Harkonnen (powerful and wealthy). Harkonnen controls Dune. Emperor gives Dune to Atradies knowing Harkonnen will lash out, in the process eliminating or severely weakening Atradies and demonizing Harkonnen in the eyes of the people. And with his hands perfectly clean, the Emperor has murdered the threat to his throne in broad daylight.
@@laramyelliott2903 An Emperor with morals does not remain an Emperor for long. Neither can they be a tyrant. But their goal must always be as close to a monopoly on power as possible.
"We are house Atredeis" - spoken like a man who knows that he represents and has the loyalty of thousands of soldiers and millions of citizens behind him.
@@superslash7254A world mostly covered in water and as far as I’m aware it is stated in the books he has a small but elite army so thousands of soldiers and millions of citizens may even be too much.
@@Prophetofthe8thLegion Earth is also mostly covered in water(71%). And we have 8B people, which populate not evenly across the world but mostly at habitable zones like peninsulas and coastal regions, which means that only around 14.6% of Earth's landmass(that is only 29% of Earth's surface) has been fully utilized for living. Also, the more technologically a civilization is, the more populated the civilization, and the Worldbuilding in Dune is very, very advanced, just minus A.Is.
@@subliminalfalllenangel2108 Yeah but typically in sci-fi and as far as I can tell it is the same with Dune, a world mostly covered in water literally means 99% water and only 1 percent water. Sci-fi tends to be rather extreme with planets.
@Linguine Fettuccine. Lol... But its true that Duke Leto faar to easy agreed to something which from the very beginning screams loud : *ITS A TRAP!!!* On the other hand... until Leto the II didn't break the curse of the Spice the whole "Diune Verse" was incredibly easy to conquer for any space faring civilizations able to operate without the Navigators... Of course I know that Herbert created very one sided Universe operated around Spice but somehow I doubt there are NO spiced spacefaring civs around but they doesn't interfere with the Empire and its subjects since entire Empire's economy is based on Spice... which for those free of it civs has simply no value?.. OR... maybe I'm far too used to the multi civs SciFi franchises so for me Diune Verse is very... gray painted world... without serious diversity?.. But that's just my personal opinion of course. 😉
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I love how when he asks "So it's done?" and the Speaker with a slight tremble responds back "It's done." In such a way that you know the Speaker knows what this really means. Everyone knew what was happening and what the Emperor was doing. They were marching to their deaths and could do nothing about it because they are loyal.
Yes they knew it was a trap but they didn't comprehend at the time the resources House Harkonnen had amassed for the invasion so they had no idea the attack would come so soon. They thought they had time to work with the Fremen.
It's unlikely the Herald suspected the Emperor's involvement such as it was. If the other houses of the Landsraad knew about the Emperor helping to destroy the Atreides they'd rise up and destroy House Corino. It was a shock to everyone when Sardaukar showed up. What everyone including the Duke expected was simply that it would invite war between the Harkonnen and Atreides. So the Herald knew that the Duke had guaranteed himself a war with one of the most ruthless and cruel Houses in the Known Galaxy. And a House that had just been enriching itself off of Arrakis for the past 70 years or whatever it was.
The costume and set design are what elevates Dune to being a masterpiece. They both add authenticity, making the Dune universe feel real and organic. They took time and great care when designing each set and costume, and the movie is all the better for it. I can’t wait for the Dune sequel, you just know Villeneuve is going to do an incredible job.
@@kirius1998 And hey, don't forget about the visual effects guys. Sure, much was done with CG, but it was blended so well, you could hardly see where they used CG, where they used miniatures, and where they used practical effects. Those guys and gals earned that visual effects award.
The Duke's beard reminds me of ancient Assyrian artwork, King Ashurbanipal. Some of the designs and decorative artwork in the Duke's home is inspired by Assyrian art. The lettering on the contract he sealed with his ring and other lettering reminds me of ancient (Slavonic) Cyrillic and Georgian script.
Such an amazing trick of perspective. You see the huge Guild ship in orbit, but don't have much to reference its size against. Then a seemingly tiny craft leaves the guild ship and heads to the surface, where we get a look at its scope against humans and it's huge! Revealing just how big the Guild Heighliner must really be in comparison...
The original ones were described as 20km-long. But then, those seem to operate slightly differently compared to the original ones? So perhaps the dimensions are different as well...
That a person on the ground can see a ship in orbit means the heighliner must be huge. I'd have to do some really tedious math to see if 20km is right but the ISS is only visible as a star so it may be.
@@Johann_Gambolputty_of_Ulm If one end of it is in the origin's star system, the other is in the destination's, and it operates as a tunnel between them, its "length" might be meaningless and impossible to measure.
Measurements on my monitor: People: 1mm tall Landing craft: 170mm tall The mothership diameter is about 60X the diameter of the landing craft. The diameter of the mothership is therefore 1.80m (a person)*170*60 = 18,360m. Obviously a very rough estimate but in any case it's probably more than 10km in diameter.
I love the acting of Leto. His inflection of 'So, It's done?' betrays so much subtle disbelief or awe despite his stature, dignity and ruling position, while also revealing an intelligence, virtue, and compassion as a servant to a higher power. Very complex and well done.
@@oishanichaudhury5449I will never forgive Disney and JJ Abrams for wasting Oscar or pretty much everyone else's talents in their trainwreck of a trilogy (Rian Johnson gets a pass from me because he's proven himself worthy outside of TLJ). It's as much depressing as it is infuriating how much talent was squandered.
Agreed! Couldn’t believe it was him playing in this. Also how Duke Leto asks “so..it’s done?” Goes to show that even someone of his reputation is unsure and hesitant about what he’s signing up for. You can sense uncertainty in his question to HotC
@nowai90 yes! Well explained, I loved that sense of fear in letos eyes and that slight ever so slightly sympathy from herald (if there was any) when he said it’s done. Crazy
@@khymaaren don't know if it's in the movie, but in the book the Duke and his advisors talk about it being a trap - that they have no choice except to walk into eyes open - as soon as they get the message from the imperial capital. The only other choices being to pack up the whole House and flee the imperium, or stay on Caladan and be crushed for disobeying an imperial request. - There's no reason for the Emperor to take Dune from House Harkonen -> it is a trap by the Emperor - There's no way to oppose the imperial forces, or the loyal noble houses -> Atreides have to walk into the trap
@@iratepirate3896 The only movie that had a better sound design was Shang-Chi. That movie, imo, was sonically far better balanced for IMAX than Dune. Dune was great, but I felt like Shang-Chi was a love letter to the listener. Immaculately designed soundscape.
Stage design and costumes in perfection, a masterpiece. I'm already looking forward to part 2. This film should be seen in the cinema, a dream of entertainment!!! 👩🚀🌍
@@master13fox It’s totally up to you. I read the book before the movie so I would understand the story and themes better. My jaw still dropped seeing it in IMAX.
I came to this scene because I saw a comment on his NPR tiny desk concert video, saying he was in Dune. You really should hear him SING. Goosebumps don't even cover it!
I hadn't realized Daft Punk had retired so they could just hang at the emperor's court and join with the Herald of the Change on his diplomatic missions.
Seriously though, could you imagine just being a Hanger-on to the highest of diplomatic engagements?!?!?! Sign me up, you wont hear a peep from me and Ill be dressed smartly at all times.
Being the Sci Fi nerd I am, I gotta say, that's probably the coolest spaceship I've ever seen. The Grandeur of it just to deliver a few people. The ship alone gives you an idea of the power of the Emperor
one of my favorite scenes in the film, the shots + the score is just magic. the first 30 seconds are such an amazing escalation of scale, slowly giving reference to this little pod before you realize just how colossal it is, and how unimaginably big the Heighliner it came out of is.
Also, in the scene where RM Mohiam goes to Caladan to test Paul, if you look through the hollow interior of the heighliner, you can see a planet on the other side of space where the heighliner traveled from.
@@jonathanleblanc2140 Which suggests that in this version, a Heighliner is more a portable, artificial wormhole than the sort of container ship it was in the Lynch or BBC versions. That when in use, one end of it appears at the origin of a trip, the other appears at the destination, and smaller - but still very large - ships fly through it.
Benjamin Clémentine who plays the Herald of the Change, is so beautiful and has a great screen presence, the wardrobe and the whole style of this scene is brilliant.
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The look on the emperor’s representative’s face when he says”It’s done.”says “I know something you don’t know. You’ll be sorry.” Duke Leto knows something’s not right by the look on his face and tone of his voice. The Reverend Mother couldn’t care less about what’s going on. Her look is one of “You were told to bare a daughter. No. You had to have a”male”.”
He knew it was a trap, but it wasn’t an order he could refuse. The book goes into more detail on how the Atreides’ launched a preemptive strike on the Harkonnens, so it wasn’t just a one-sided slaughter.
The Duke knew it was a trap from the very beginning, and IMO I think the face the representative gives seems to be more of a somber one because they both know whats going to happen.
This scene is immaculate. It tells the audience so much about this bizarre future through visuals: the massive opulent spaceships and futuristic garb crossed with medieval political pageantry. All set with a creeping tension and otherworldly score. 👌Very Spicy
I just recently went to see Hans Zimmer at the O2 arena in London. He started speaking through the microphone and his voice got deeper and deeper to sound like the Barons. Then the place went dark and the Dune theme began. It was unbelievable.
2:19 - I love the slight movement of Gurney's eyes switching from looking straight ahead to Leto as the Duke steps out to address the Herald. We already know he detests the obvious trap that's unfolding with "I *am* smiling", but that one look in the background silently conveys "Jesus...this is *really* happening..."
When Thufir does his calculation at first I was stunned by the suddenness of it but then I almost cheered at the rightness of it. This whole scene was an absolute masterpiece of cinema. There wasn’t a misplaced character or moment that didn’t add to the story in ways that cannot be fully articulated, only felt and enjoyed. I eagerly await the next part of the film and hope beyond hope the caliber and spectacle continue to be out of this world!
It was the ONLY scene that showed Thurfir as something more than just an Atreides captain. Anyone not familiar with the source material still to this moment has no idea Thurfir is a Mentat. And Piter?!?!?! You can just sweep that one under the rug. So many missed opportunities that could have truly made this a masterpiece.
@@thecocktailian2091 unfortunately you’re not wrong. However, considering passed attempts at bringing this insanely complex story to the silver screen I was not displeased. Doing the book true justice would require show lengths in excess of what even hardy fans may be willing to endure. Much like The Lord of the Rings or The Hobbit, these epic tails can really only fully lived out in our imaginations.
@@thecocktailian2091 They had psychological scenes featuring Piter and Hawat doing more, such as a metaphorical Chess battle between them. When the Harkonnen's capture Hawat, Piter goes up to him and says 'checkmate.' It would have been really cool to see but so much of the movie had to be cut. We also get to see doctor Yueh's and Jessica's talk, there are reasons to believe they had the dinner scene. Its hard to make Dune in the scale of the book, the story is far too complex to implement into a 2 and a half hour movie. If we get a 4 and a half hour extended edition we would still miss so much.
Piter does the same eye roll as Thufir in the scene where he is negotiating with Sardaukar. It’s a very quick moment but just enough to link they’re both part of the same group, if you couple that with their lip symbol. It would be even cooler if Piter did a little more, yes, but its already fantastic as is
yeah I thought his voice sounded familiar during his Oscar speech. It was great to see all the technical teams of this movie get their due. Unfortunately that's what no one is going to remember about that night 😒
I love how the whole movie makes you hate the Emperor without even showing him. That man on top who sends people to their deaths with a wave of his hand, because they MIGHT threaten his precious throne.
Any Benjamin Clementine fans here?! FYI, Benjamin Clementine play’s the Emperor’s Herald. He is an extremely talented British singer and his music is some of the most creative to come out in the last decade. Such a nice surprise to see him in this movie.
My father said he liked the character because his look makes the film look like a very futuristic movie, and I agree. He doesn't know who he is, and I know him from that Gorillaz song "Hallellujah Money"
More than that the question actually shows, that Leto himself isn't really sure of all this pompous imperial court procedure. He's just another guy, more down to earth, to whom all these formalities seem rather obscure. Also, it tell's us quite a lot on the relationship between Atreides at least, maybe even the whole court system around it, that nobody bothered to actually plan it in advance. Either that or you can't even trust anybody. Basically, it's just rich guys fumbling around, toying with so much power, while they do not even comprehend what they are doing.
Simpy put: they both know this is essentially a terribly elaborate assassination to secure the Emperor's power: the two most influential houses after the imperial house is Atradies (respected by the people) and Harkonnen (powerful and wealthy). Harkonnen controls Dune. Emperor gives Dune to Atradies knowing Harkonnen will lash out, in the process eliminating or severely weakening Atradies and demonizing Harkonnen in the eyes of the people. And with his hands perfectly clean, the Emperor has murdered the threat to his throne in broad daylight.
Note the camera angle when the Duke looks down at the table, hesitating before he presses his seal. It's a traditional camera angle of a funeral: looking up from inside the grave at the mourners. Except its his own funeral, and on some level he's at least partially aware of it. Follow that with the shot of Gurney from afar with tight focus: another classic funeral shot. And then the Reverend Mother, looking exactly like she's wearing funeral garb. It just utterly seals the unconscious image that this is the Duke's own death warrant he's signing, and they're all present to watch him do it.
And how 'bout that look on the Herald's face after Duke Leto asks it its done...it is profound pity, almost compassion but not, for he knows that the Duke's fate is sealed. He is looking at a dead man walking. Ugh. Sends chills up my spine every time I see that scene and that look on the Herald's face....
@@jeffreydanese9260 absolutely agree! Love that tension, and the uncertainty from Leto and how he ask almost like a child “so…it’s done?“ Very hesitant on what is to come next.
This is undoubtedly my favourite scene in Dune. Especially going in blind, it sets up the atmosphere of the film perfectly. The score, the unspoken tension and political feel of it...I always enjoy the subtle threat of violence in dialogue more than the explosive action scenes. When I saw this for the first time, I knew I was going on an epic adventure. Secondly, I love how this feels like a populated alien world with a rich history. And I love when the future is depicted this way...the costume design is inventive without being unrecognizable. It's silhouettes and material we're familiar with, but looks otherworldly in this context. Finally, Oscar Isaac's voice is so majestic. He delivers the gravity and dread needed in the scene.
It’s a shame people don’t have the patience for build up. Never watched the previous dune media or read the books. But I was blown away by this story all the same.
Me and my mother saw this opening day in a pretty packed dine in theater and were also blown away. My father who I saw it with in Imax unfortunately just thought it was okay so it definetley isn't everyone's cup of tea. I think alot of people nowadays like very simple storylines that dont require your full attention in order to understand what is going on and Dune is not that movie.
This movie has such impressive class and style. It's a great theater film, too; for anyone who missed Part 1 on the big screen, be sure to go in for Part 2.
This is actually my favorite scene in the entire film! I love the music, tone, atmosphere, lighting, costumes, the scale and the performances. This scene is a gem.
One of the most awesome things they did here is the way Earth cultures are blended together to form new cultures, creating something familiar and alien at the same time.
@@johnneyjohnson8607 Yeah that was a plot hole. A real army has night patrols always ready and looking at the skies to prevent an attack from happening but there we are...
@Johnney Johnson Dr Yueh confesses to sabotaging the defences. You can quibble about should there be spaceships flying patrols, or planes, or would the planes detect spaceships dropping in on them in time... but plotwise they covered the attack with "succeeded due to internal treachery". I'm happy enough.
@@Sgt_Glory I love the sound design. In the cinema it gave the sensation of a Bene Gesserit's judgement piercing right through you into the depths of your soul. The Bene Gesserit were done so much justice in this film. I feel like it was the Duncan Idaho, Bene Gesserit, and Atreides' film. Part 2 will be the Fremen and Harkonnen film. The emperor and his daughter will have their moments in the final act just as his herald had in the first act here.
This scene right here is pure perfection. The cinematography of this movie plus the soundtrack is mind blowing. The heavenly/dark soundtrack when the ship lands gives me goosebumps. Another goosebumps is when they both said its done and Hans Zimmer brings in the dark brass sound. Amazing
I truly loved Dune. I feel we finally have a movie that rises up to the book. The cinematography is amazing and the way they portrayed the technology and costumes is really "by the book". Dune is not about flashy and futuristic costumes and technology even though it exists and the movie does an excellent job with it.
I can’t explain why but 0:31 always gets to me. The scale, the music, it was the moment I knew Dune would give me everything I needed as a huge lover of the sci-fi genre.
Rather unusual, but this scene should have been in the book. Also shows how even in very distant future, simple formalities and rituals still play a huge part. Also, everyone here play a role. Everyone here knows that this change of flef - is a trap for house Atreides. Duke knows it the best, but he can't disobey the Emperor - it is against his principles
If we had stayed in the age of chivalry and made it to the stars, yes it would likely look like this. But the chances of a feudal society becoming technologically advanced enough to reach the stars is unlikely considering how concentrated the resources are in the 1%.
@@fredkelly6953 I understand. But rituals like this--including ritual dress--exist today in the mid east oil baron countries (actually, the politics of real-world oil and the politics of fictional spice are a lot alike), and are practiced by some of the most 1% 1%ers of 'em all. I don't think it's a stretch that in the distant future a galaxy-spanning Empire could renew a feudalistic system. Plus, with the distance between worlds and long travel times I could see planets quickly developing highly distinct cultures and rituals easily. I don't think the deep future will be "modern day, but bigger and more advanced." I suspect some very new and distinct things will develop once we conquer space travel. What these things are I have no idea, thus why the subject of the deep future is so fascinating.
No it wasn't that it was against his principles but in refusing the position the atreides house would be declared outlaw and they would be forced to flee beyond the edge of the empire.
@@fredkelly6953 it’s the opposite, it regress in feudal. Too much world, too much powerfull monopoly. And so come feudal lord, who are the mighty 0.00001%...
@@playsauce Frank Herbert intentionally draws attention to these rituals in Dune, and this scene is a great addition to the narrative. It's very succinct in catching the viewer up on the universe, as well as making its statement on formality.
One of my favorite things about listening to the score is realizing how much of the sound in these scenes is actually the sound of the ships, tech, etc.
The emperor's messenger is played by poet/singer/songwriter Benjamin Clementine. He's a treasure in all ways. Listening right now to his song 'Condolences'. Love his voice so much.
This is my favorite part of the movie. It's the one that finally and completely draws me in to this science fiction world. I feel like this is where the movie truly starts.
I do like how after all the pomp and ritual and careful gestures and words and movements, the ceremony of it all... when the messenger picks up the contract, Leto asks him on a way almost embarrassed and unsure "so... it's done?" It's such a monumental moment for his House and him that he's still unsure if there's other steps to take in this ceremony. The messenger didn't have to say anything, but I liked how he paused, and for a moment the 'official' side of him lowered a tad, and he reassured Leto that it was indeed done. All that... for a stamp in gold wax. No wonder Leto was unsure if there was more involved in the process.
3:09 Lady Jessica and the Bene Gesseret likely not only exchange looks but talk in their sign language to each other. That would be why Paul looks down, to watch what his mother was saying.
Absolutely love the fact that the cinematography shows how lush and wet Caladan is, in comparison to Arrakis. This and the scene with the ships coming out of the sea, and Paul dipping his hand in the water on the shore.
I loved this scene. The world building and characterization from this scene alone does what some can’t do in an entire film, it doesn’t bog you down with exposition. It shows us how their society is, how the main characters feel about it and how their motivations.
I know right!! I had exactly the same thought. Unfortunately he’s not even a real character in the books as far as I know. Been a while since I’ve read them.
@Ferkeertgespelt No, but he can be counted as a member of the Imperial court, which was mentioned. I'm a stickler for accuracy, but if they introduce a scene and character that fits thematically, that doesn't impact the story, I don't mind. Especially if it's well done. This guy nailed it. He wouldn't have been out of place acting as a Herald for a king in our feudal era.
2:55 I have never noticed this until now, but Duke Leto has the same radio implant that Thufir Hawat has behind his ear. I just love the small, almost unnoticeable details like this that they put into the film!
I love the camera panning over at 1:50 while he lists all of the factions there to witness this event, and as it centers on each representative group he says their name; the imperial court, the spacing guild, the bene gesserit. Such a simple but clever composition that lets you know who each individual is without the characters themselves having to speak. Costume designs are also on point here.
I've always assumed they were all spacing guild operatives. 1st and second stage navigators. Perhaps members of the Imperial court aren't really shown closely.
I actually delayed watching this since I avoid movies that get hyped up too much because most of the time, it's just disappointing. Well, this movie is far from that. This movie is without a doubt a MASTERPIECE. Everything in this movie, just screams quality and I'm glad I've witnessed it. I'm definitely looking forward to the sequels. 👌👌👌
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I love that Leto basically says "This could have been an email," when asking how much it costs for this ceremony
When’s the last time you received fiefdom over a planet per email?
@@jansix4287 When’s the last time you received fiefdom over a planet at all?
@@jansix4287 Yes but, like, the emperor usually does this by email.
Tsze-kung wished to do away with the offering of a sheep connected with the inauguration of the first day of each month. The Master said, "Ts'ze, you love the sheep; I love the ceremony." The Master said, "The full observance of the rules of propriety in serving one's prince is accounted by people to be flattery."
- Confucius, The Analects - 3
IE: People utilize ceremony to cement the importance of events, and to help them pay psychologically sufficient respect to those they admire or honor.
Actually reason he asked much it would be is see emperors intentions
The look the Bene Gesserit Sister gives Lady Jessica "how dare you produce a son" that's great acting right there
They probably had an entire telepathic conversation about it, as becomes the norm among BJs in Dune2
@kevinlou1449 I was thinking the same thing, they had to be having some type of telepathic conversation happening because Dune 2 they used it a lot.
@@kevinlou1449
You meant BGs right? 😂
@@babbisp1he said what he said!
Tbh, they likely already had that conversation long before this meeting.
The Herald’s delivery at the end is perfect. You can reasonably doubt he’d be privy to the emperor’s plans… but as glacial as his expression might seem you can almost see a hint of pity there if you want to. Like he knows full well what’s been done here.
Anyone in that Universe would know that the Harkonnens would never leave Dune without extracting a high price. The herald didn't have to know the Emperor's whole game to know that Leto was in deep trouble.
@@StrongDreamsWaitHere true, at the minimum he knew there was going to be a war
In reality, while the Herald may not specifically be told of any plans, when you are that close to the hub of the wheel of power, you learn to discern what is afoot while officially knowing nothing thereof. You do this both for your own safety, and for the efficiency of performing your job with the tone appropriate for the instance. The Herald knew full-well what had just transpired.
Duke Leto and the Atreides (namely his advisors, Gurney for instance) knew that the Harkonenns would probably try to reclaim Arrakis from them. What they didn't expect was for the Emperor himself to betray the Atreides and send the Sardaukar to wipe them out. In the book the Sardaukar are disguised in Harkonnen armor, while in this movie they aren't disguised and are immediately recognized as the fearsome Sardaukar. Just like this scene, although that wasn't in the book, I believe adding it to the movie was just another testament to Denis Villenueve's genius as a director to make that change for the sake of a more cinematograpic scene. Truly excellent directing from Villeneuve.
@@stephenhoward6829 nah, people in power keep these thing very close to their heart. how does the emperor knows the herald isn't a spy? Emperor usually use unofficial servant to do their secret plan, this way those in the administration will not know, and no one will be able to form a full picture to blackmail the emperor. Emperor of old are alot wiser than today's president who only have a few years of experience. emperor spend their entirely life fighting for power, they are not given the throne without a fight between brothers. in their princling stage, they would learn to develop their own shadow loyalist that is not in the government, you wouldn't want your emperor father to know you are plotting against your own brothers.
The final exchange between the herald and the duke is chilling. They both know what’s up, but both know they must carry out their duties. I love the dune universe!
They are actually lovers. It's in the books.
@@Liry1 bazinga
He stares right through the duke. He knows he's looking at a dead man.
@@Liry1 He's lying
@@MarkDavis77 gotcha
The look of pity from the Emperor's herald at the end just seals it.
Yeah, that was a nice touch having him have a look of sympathy on his face.
Agreed. Leto knew that House Atreides was being set up to fail, and that this was in all likelihood a trap, but honor demanded that he accept. Likewise, the herald also knew that House Atreides was walking into a trap, but he has his role and his duty, as much as Leto did.
Because the emperor is a jealous man, and any time a jealous man gives you something he doesn't do it out of charity
@@Zaxares And Atreides being a liked and respected house as well.
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This scene wasn't in the book. When I first saw it, it felt so well executed and to fit so perfectly in the plot, that surely it had to be part of the source material. Only after I read the books did I understand that it was actually one of Villeneuve's own contributions. This really makes one appreciate the creative process behind movies in general, and this one in particular. I think it takes a special kind of director to understand, confidently, where and what to change the source material to make it more cinematographic.
As Villeneuve was, and still is, a lifetime fan of Dune, i feel that only he could add something of his own to the IP, and have it be worthy.
This was in the book though.
@@soulethh4940 pages?
@@soulethh4940No. You might be mistaking Liet Kynes' role as JUDGE of the Change, but we never see this scene.
This provides the incredible scale of galactic technology and sets the scene for the betrayal of House Atreides by the Emperor, the Spacing Guild and the Bene Gesserit. Paul's instinctive revulsion of the Imperium and its power factions begins here and plants the seed of the Jihad of Muad'Dib.
Hans Zimmer snorted a line of Spice when he came up with this score. That Oscar was well deserved!
the way he can immerse himself in the world of the story he's making music for is inhuman
the music sounds so different considering the vibe of the world/universe that the story happens in
... just one line?
@@hycron1234 One has to be able to also write after
Most of his tunes sound the same to me
Possibly Zimmer getting some a that juice of Sapho as well... "It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains. The stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion." Repeat until movie score is complete. 🤣
I love the fact that this movie doesn't show the Emperor -- makes him seem more powerful and mysterious. I also love the fact that the book and movie refer to him as the "Emperor of the Known Universe" implying that there are still vast reaches of space that have not yet been conquered.
Well, that's why every House Major hoards atomics...
Them not showing the navigators, thoughts of characters or the emperor is the reason i didnt like the movie
Can't imagine they (emperor/navigators) will be left out of the sequel
Because they’ve barely expanded in a single galaxy. The imperium is only 10k worlds or so
@@zeyther3341 the navigators aren't really in the first book, and the emporer doesn't show up until the end of book 1. Dune Pt. 2 will have the emporer. I also wouldn't be surprised if they show more of the navigators then are actually in the book, because Denis Villeneuve might only get to portray them in the 2nd part. He wants to make Dune Messiah as a third film, but that hasn't been greenlit yet.
I love how you can sense that by signing the seal with his ring, Leto is also _literally_ signing not only his family's but his own fate, and that he's aware that this may very well be the end of him. Excellent directing of an excellently written scene.
He is "sealing his fate", even.
I also like the detail that this is the same exact ring which Paul is given later on, as a message that his father is dead.
@@augustday9483 That's not why he is given that ring. It's the signet ring of House Atredes. It's the evidence that Paul is a duke.
@@michaelgunn9883 ...which doesn't happen unless his father has surrendered the title in some way, typically with his life.
He didn’t have any choice. It’s easy to pretend to be noble under those circumstances.
They both know this is essentially a terribly elaborate assassination to secure the Emperor's power: the two most influential houses after the imperial house is Atradies (respected by the people) and Harkonnen (powerful and wealthy). Harkonnen controls Dune. Emperor gives Dune to Atradies knowing Harkonnen will lash out, in the process eliminating or severely weakening Atradies and demonizing Harkonnen in the eyes of the people. And with his hands perfectly clean, the Emperor has murdered the threat to his throne in broad daylight.
An emperor with the morals of Littlefinger? Well thats just great./s
@@laramyelliott2903 An Emperor with morals does not remain an Emperor for long. Neither can they be a tyrant. But their goal must always be as close to a monopoly on power as possible.
@@Crusader1089 An emperor who condones the betrayal and massacre of a popular and loyal vassal is in danger of being a tyrant
Sounds like USA is the Emperor, Atreides are the Ukrainians and Harkonnen are the Russians.
@@theartemisgland nice try Karl
"We are House Atreides. There is no call we do not answer, there is no faith that we betray." The chills are here.
Atreides. Atreides. Atreides. Atreides. Atreides. Atreides.
Mom's spaghetti
we are the north. there is no call we do answer, the is no faiht we recall or remember
And yet everyone betrays them.
What would've happened if he said no
Magnificent voice to the man reading from the scroll.
His actor is Benjamin Clementine, who's an indie musician.
@@Baldwin-iv445
Rather fitting then that he was followed by people who looked like small oranges.
@@hangarrat Absolute genius
Small oranges 🍊😆😆
@@Baldwin-iv445 thanks, I will check him out
"We are house Atredeis" - spoken like a man who knows that he represents and has the loyalty of thousands of soldiers and millions of citizens behind him.
Add a few zeroes to each of those. Remember, he's the leader of an entire WORLD.
Atreides
@@superslash7254A world mostly covered in water and as far as I’m aware it is stated in the books he has a small but elite army so thousands of soldiers and millions of citizens may even be too much.
@@Prophetofthe8thLegion Earth is also mostly covered in water(71%). And we have 8B people, which populate not evenly across the world but mostly at habitable zones like peninsulas and coastal regions, which means that only around 14.6% of Earth's landmass(that is only 29% of Earth's surface) has been fully utilized for living.
Also, the more technologically a civilization is, the more populated the civilization, and the Worldbuilding in Dune is very, very advanced, just minus A.Is.
@@subliminalfalllenangel2108 Yeah but typically in sci-fi and as far as I can tell it is the same with Dune, a world mostly covered in water literally means 99% water and only 1 percent water. Sci-fi tends to be rather extreme with planets.
"Do you accept?"
"No"
Roll credits
@Linguine Fettuccine. Lol...
But its true that Duke Leto faar to easy agreed to something which from the very beginning screams loud : *ITS A TRAP!!!*
On the other hand... until Leto the II didn't break the curse of the Spice the whole "Diune Verse" was incredibly easy to conquer for any space faring civilizations able to operate without the Navigators...
Of course I know that Herbert created very one sided Universe operated around Spice but somehow I doubt there are NO spiced spacefaring civs around but they doesn't interfere with the Empire and its subjects since entire Empire's economy is based on Spice... which for those free of it civs has simply no value?..
OR... maybe I'm far too used to the multi civs SciFi franchises so for me Diune Verse is very... gray painted world... without serious diversity?..
But that's just my personal opinion of course. 😉
There's no way a dynastic house would dare to insult the emperor by refusing
@@iratepirate3896 higher up the food chain they would. The Landsraad orders the emperor.
@@bodyshoplaboratories501 The Landsraad can restrain the Emperor. Difference. It's a check on the Emperor's power, but only if they act in concert.
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I love how when he asks "So it's done?" and the Speaker with a slight tremble responds back "It's done." In such a way that you know the Speaker knows what this really means. Everyone knew what was happening and what the Emperor was doing. They were marching to their deaths and could do nothing about it because they are loyal.
Yes they knew it was a trap but they didn't comprehend at the time the resources House Harkonnen had amassed for the invasion so they had no idea the attack would come so soon. They thought they had time to work with the Fremen.
It's unlikely the Herald suspected the Emperor's involvement such as it was. If the other houses of the Landsraad knew about the Emperor helping to destroy the Atreides they'd rise up and destroy House Corino. It was a shock to everyone when Sardaukar showed up.
What everyone including the Duke expected was simply that it would invite war between the Harkonnen and Atreides. So the Herald knew that the Duke had guaranteed himself a war with one of the most ruthless and cruel Houses in the Known Galaxy. And a House that had just been enriching itself off of Arrakis for the past 70 years or whatever it was.
It's done. Now invest heavily into petroleum jelly, you gonna need it.
The costume and set design are what elevates Dune to being a masterpiece. They both add authenticity, making the Dune universe feel real and organic. They took time and great care when designing each set and costume, and the movie is all the better for it.
I can’t wait for the Dune sequel, you just know Villeneuve is going to do an incredible job.
Don't forget the camera work and the music please. Finally after a long time a movie which deserved the oscars it won.
@@kirius1998 And hey, don't forget about the visual effects guys. Sure, much was done with CG, but it was blended so well, you could hardly see where they used CG, where they used miniatures, and where they used practical effects. Those guys and gals earned that visual effects award.
Jacqueline West and Bob Morgan went off on the costume design like jesus.
The Duke's beard reminds me of ancient Assyrian artwork, King Ashurbanipal. Some of the designs and decorative artwork in the Duke's home is inspired by Assyrian art. The lettering on the contract he sealed with his ring and other lettering reminds me of ancient (Slavonic) Cyrillic and Georgian script.
And, the book.
Such an amazing trick of perspective. You see the huge Guild ship in orbit, but don't have much to reference its size against. Then a seemingly tiny craft leaves the guild ship and heads to the surface, where we get a look at its scope against humans and it's huge! Revealing just how big the Guild Heighliner must really be in comparison...
The original ones were described as 20km-long. But then, those seem to operate slightly differently compared to the original ones? So perhaps the dimensions are different as well...
“It’s taking on a shape. And the shape, is BIG” - Luke The Notable
That a person on the ground can see a ship in orbit means the heighliner must be huge. I'd have to do some really tedious math to see if 20km is right but the ISS is only visible as a star so it may be.
@@Johann_Gambolputty_of_Ulm
If one end of it is in the origin's star system, the other is in the destination's, and it operates as a tunnel between them, its "length" might be meaningless and impossible to measure.
Measurements on my monitor:
People: 1mm tall
Landing craft: 170mm tall
The mothership diameter is about 60X the diameter of the landing craft.
The diameter of the mothership is therefore 1.80m (a person)*170*60 = 18,360m.
Obviously a very rough estimate but in any case it's probably more than 10km in diameter.
- So, it's Dune?
- It's Dune.
So they fly now?
Lol
It’s Duning time baby
Ok, ok, settle dune now.
Dune your mom
I love the acting of Leto. His inflection of 'So, It's done?' betrays so much subtle disbelief or awe despite his stature, dignity and ruling position, while also revealing an intelligence, virtue, and compassion as a servant to a higher power. Very complex and well done.
Oscar issac's really a great actor. Shame that they wasted him in the star wars sequels.
@@oishanichaudhury5449I will never forgive Disney and JJ Abrams for wasting Oscar or pretty much everyone else's talents in their trainwreck of a trilogy (Rian Johnson gets a pass from me because he's proven himself worthy outside of TLJ). It's as much depressing as it is infuriating how much talent was squandered.
Exactly.
@@oishanichaudhury5449it’s also a shame that several actors from Dune and Part Two got such little screen time. Everyone was excellent in their role
"So..it's done?"
"It's done." 😏
Such chills man, love the "Herald of the change" guy's acting soo much. And his jawline...
Agreed! Couldn’t believe it was him playing in this. Also how Duke Leto asks “so..it’s done?” Goes to show that even someone of his reputation is unsure and hesitant about what he’s signing up for. You can sense uncertainty in his question to HotC
@nowai90 yes! Well explained, I loved that sense of fear in letos eyes and that slight ever so slightly sympathy from herald (if there was any) when he said it’s done. Crazy
He talked with stark finality. He knew how things would go down. Everyone on that ship did. Maybe even Leto knew. Suspected, at the very least.
@@khymaaren don't know if it's in the movie, but in the book the Duke and his advisors talk about it being a trap - that they have no choice except to walk into eyes open - as soon as they get the message from the imperial capital. The only other choices being to pack up the whole House and flee the imperium, or stay on Caladan and be crushed for disobeying an imperial request.
- There's no reason for the Emperor to take Dune from House Harkonen -> it is a trap by the Emperor
- There's no way to oppose the imperial forces, or the loyal noble houses -> Atreides have to walk into the trap
His entire interaction with the Duke is how id talk to someone on death row. A grim finality. And some sympathy
The emperors Herold, Dude had one role in the movie and he played it masterfully.
Oscar Isaac is perfect as Duke Leto. He's got the charisma of a true King.
He has no charisma at all. In any of his films. He is absolutely one of the worst actors I have ever seen in my life.
@@trhansen3244 thats....like your opinon bro :)
@@vikrammahal7574 It's not opinion. He is a terrible awful actor. No charm in the slightest.
@@trhansen3244 cringe opinion
@@trhansen3244 i for one is happy that he's becoming mainstream.
Watching this scene in the theaters was amazing. The theater speakers really let you feel the bass. The sound design was fantastic.
One of the best things I've seen in Imax since Akira or Blade Runner 2049
@@iratepirate3896 Blade Runner 2049 was also directed by Denis Villeneuve and scored by Hans Zimmer
I wish I could have seen this in theatres. We were on Covid lockdown here in Canada when this was airing.
@@koshka02 maybe there is a double feature when they release part II - dune on the big screen with ATMOS is an almost disturbing experience 😍
@@iratepirate3896 The only movie that had a better sound design was Shang-Chi. That movie, imo, was sonically far better balanced for IMAX than Dune. Dune was great, but I felt like Shang-Chi was a love letter to the listener. Immaculately designed soundscape.
The score reminds me of Halo 2 for some reason... and I LOVE it.
I'm hearing Alastor's voice in this comment 😂
I was just thinking the same thing!
@TheEnlightenedMalignancygonna have to try harder than that lil bro
Wow never noticed that but you're right
It's 'cuz Lord Hood is in the cast
Stage design and costumes in perfection, a masterpiece. I'm already looking forward to part 2. This film should be seen in the cinema, a dream of entertainment!!! 👩🚀🌍
I was 5 times in cinema. This movie made me addicted. It was more powerful than Star Wars or anything else
I think part 2 will be deeply satisfying considering the way the book goes. Karma is coming.
@@Wolfenstein69924 i want read Book but I am afraid to see spoilers for second movie.. what is your advice?
@@master13fox It’s totally up to you. I read the book before the movie so I would understand the story and themes better. My jaw still dropped seeing it in IMAX.
Already way underrated and well said.
An almost 4 minute clip is better than most movies. Incredible movie.
Most? 51%? Will you bet your life on that?
@@PRubin-rh4srsounds like an easy bet. For every Dune movie there are a dozen lazy cashgrabs
You need to watch more movies
Benjamin Clementine nailed this so much. That half-singing ceremonial voice at 2:00 was amazing.
The herald was so well cast and well played. Excellent acting, tone, cadence in delivery. Amazing!!
Love when he says "bene gesserit"
He is a pretty accomplished singer, name is benjamin clementine
@@azeemsaad3509 he's a great singer
I came to this scene because I saw a comment on his NPR tiny desk concert video, saying he was in Dune. You really should hear him SING. Goosebumps don't even cover it!
I hadn't realized Daft Punk had retired so they could just hang at the emperor's court and join with the Herald of the Change on his diplomatic missions.
They didn't retire. They had to go, their planet needed theeeeem
How about Tim Roth as witch.
There is a rave on Salusa Secundus on the way back.
Seriously though, could you imagine just being a Hanger-on to the highest of diplomatic engagements?!?!?! Sign me up, you wont hear a peep from me and Ill be dressed smartly at all times.
There’s gotta be a royalty free 3D printable model of Guy-Man’s helmet floating around Hollywood. I see his Daft Punk helmet everywhere.
Being the Sci Fi nerd I am, I gotta say, that's probably the coolest spaceship I've ever seen. The Grandeur of it just to deliver a few people. The ship alone gives you an idea of the power of the Emperor
Flying cigar
Yeah i saw the real ones, and they are not as impressive as this sci-fi ones.
@@nemesis9378 one dropped by your house the other day eh?
@@mike9347 There's museums.
@@me.with.my.self. I thought that was the machine used for interstellar travel by all ships?
one of my favorite scenes in the film, the shots + the score is just magic. the first 30 seconds are such an amazing escalation of scale, slowly giving reference to this little pod before you realize just how colossal it is, and how unimaginably big the Heighliner it came out of is.
Also, in the scene where RM Mohiam goes to Caladan to test Paul, if you look through the hollow interior of the heighliner, you can see a planet on the other side of space where the heighliner traveled from.
Space am _big._
@@jonathanleblanc2140 Which suggests that in this version, a Heighliner is more a portable, artificial wormhole than the sort of container ship it was in the Lynch or BBC versions. That when in use, one end of it appears at the origin of a trip, the other appears at the destination, and smaller - but still very large - ships fly through it.
In the books, it's mentioned that a heighliner can fit an entire House's fleet and cargo in one corner of its hold.
Benjamin Clémentine who plays the Herald of the Change, is so beautiful and has a great screen presence, the wardrobe and the whole style of this scene is brilliant.
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The Herald of the Change is a singer? I didn't know that.
The look on the emperor’s representative’s face when he says”It’s done.”says “I know something you don’t know. You’ll be sorry.” Duke Leto knows something’s not right by the look on his face and tone of his voice. The Reverend Mother couldn’t care less about what’s going on. Her look is one of “You were told to bare a daughter. No. You had to have a”male”.”
He knew it was a trap, but it wasn’t an order he could refuse. The book goes into more detail on how the Atreides’ launched a preemptive strike on the Harkonnens, so it wasn’t just a one-sided slaughter.
Like the other guy said, they both knew. The only thing Leto didn't anticipate was Yueh making it so easy for the Harkonnen/Sardaukar to enter.
@@KonohasYeIlowFlash the Duke the matador, the Baron the bull
@@NtoTheM the only thing we couldn't anticipate was, guarding the shield and communications array with only 2 unarmored and dumb soldiers!
The Duke knew it was a trap from the very beginning, and IMO I think the face the representative gives seems to be more of a somber one because they both know whats going to happen.
This scene is immaculate. It tells the audience so much about this bizarre future through visuals: the massive opulent spaceships and futuristic garb crossed with medieval political pageantry. All set with a creeping tension and otherworldly score.
👌Very Spicy
I totally agree. A masterful scene.
I just recently went to see Hans Zimmer at the O2 arena in London. He started speaking through the microphone and his voice got deeper and deeper to sound like the Barons. Then the place went dark and the Dune theme began. It was unbelievable.
Don't forget the guildsmen hotboxing on spice.
What you did there… I see it.
Aren’t modern politics is very different from medieval?
2:19 - I love the slight movement of Gurney's eyes switching from looking straight ahead to Leto as the Duke steps out to address the Herald. We already know he detests the obvious trap that's unfolding with "I *am* smiling", but that one look in the background silently conveys "Jesus...this is *really* happening..."
How did I miss that?
When Thufir does his calculation at first I was stunned by the suddenness of it but then I almost cheered at the rightness of it. This whole scene was an absolute masterpiece of cinema. There wasn’t a misplaced character or moment that didn’t add to the story in ways that cannot be fully articulated, only felt and enjoyed. I eagerly await the next part of the film and hope beyond hope the caliber and spectacle continue to be out of this world!
It was the ONLY scene that showed Thurfir as something more than just an Atreides captain. Anyone not familiar with the source material still to this moment has no idea Thurfir is a Mentat. And Piter?!?!?! You can just sweep that one under the rug. So many missed opportunities that could have truly made this a masterpiece.
@@thecocktailian2091 unfortunately you’re not wrong. However, considering passed attempts at bringing this insanely complex story to the silver screen I was not displeased. Doing the book true justice would require show lengths in excess of what even hardy fans may be willing to endure. Much like The Lord of the Rings or The Hobbit, these epic tails can really only fully lived out in our imaginations.
@@thecocktailian2091 They had psychological scenes featuring Piter and Hawat doing more, such as a metaphorical Chess battle between them. When the Harkonnen's capture Hawat, Piter goes up to him and says 'checkmate.' It would have been really cool to see but so much of the movie had to be cut. We also get to see doctor Yueh's and Jessica's talk, there are reasons to believe they had the dinner scene. Its hard to make Dune in the scale of the book, the story is far too complex to implement into a 2 and a half hour movie. If we get a 4 and a half hour extended edition we would still miss so much.
@@Po1lux Let's hope the studio releases an extended cut at some point (since the director doesn't want to)
Piter does the same eye roll as Thufir in the scene where he is negotiating with Sardaukar. It’s a very quick moment but just enough to link they’re both part of the same group, if you couple that with their lip symbol. It would be even cooler if Piter did a little more, yes, but its already fantastic as is
For those of you wondering, the voice over in the beginning is actually the voice of the editor for the film! Took me a while to find out who he was!
yeah I thought his voice sounded familiar during his Oscar speech. It was great to see all the technical teams of this movie get their due. Unfortunately that's what no one is going to remember about that night 😒
Love the look exchange between the herald and the duke at the end. Both know exactly what's actually happening.
I love how the whole movie makes you hate the Emperor without even showing him. That man on top who sends people to their deaths with a wave of his hand, because they MIGHT threaten his precious throne.
Paul ended up doing exactly what Shaddam feared Leto would do. The Emperor feared the father when he should've feared the son.
Human politics are not that different... I think spontaneously of Stalin.
Isn't that what all Emperors do tho
@@sankang9425 King Ashoka was different. Marcus Aurelius as well
@@brandonmedina494 Well he wasn't wrong to fear the father as well, if they weren't betrayed from within they would have posed a much bigger threat
This is how all movies should be, everything elevated to perfection, script, design, color, music, this is a true masterpiece.
Naah, not all of them. Time and place. Some films require other approaches.
If all movies were perfect there wouldn't be perfection to begin with. It would just be one among many.
It's subjective.
A lot of people prefer the Lynch Dune to this imitation of it. :{
@@ShyTentacle True, but it sure wouldnt hurt to have more movies on the level of Dune, that seems to be really rare these days
Aesthetically pleasing, but as someone who hasn't read the books it was surprisingly lacking in depth, nuance or complexity of any kind.
Any Benjamin Clementine fans here?!
FYI, Benjamin Clementine play’s the Emperor’s Herald. He is an extremely talented British singer and his music is some of the most creative to come out in the last decade. Such a nice surprise to see him in this movie.
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Perfect casting
My father said he liked the character because his look makes the film look like a very futuristic movie, and I agree. He doesn't know who he is, and I know him from that Gorillaz song "Hallellujah Money"
He has tiny ears
I knew I recognized his face somewhere!!! Loved his collab with Gorillaz
When Atreides says: ”It’s done” he means: ”is the emperor satisfied?”. When the herald answers he says the same, yet means: ”You’re going down”
I thought that at first, but then maybe the herald wasn’t told the Emperor’s full plan, as it may have compromised the bigger operation.
More than that the question actually shows, that Leto himself isn't really sure of all this pompous imperial court procedure. He's just another guy, more down to earth, to whom all these formalities seem rather obscure. Also, it tell's us quite a lot on the relationship between Atreides at least, maybe even the whole court system around it, that nobody bothered to actually plan it in advance. Either that or you can't even trust anybody.
Basically, it's just rich guys fumbling around, toying with so much power, while they do not even comprehend what they are doing.
When he stamps his seal, he is stamping his own fate as well, and he kinda knows it too, but is too loyal to say no to the emperor.
Simpy put: they both know this is essentially a terribly elaborate assassination to secure the Emperor's power: the two most influential houses after the imperial house is Atradies (respected by the people) and Harkonnen (powerful and wealthy). Harkonnen controls Dune. Emperor gives Dune to Atradies knowing Harkonnen will lash out, in the process eliminating or severely weakening Atradies and demonizing Harkonnen in the eyes of the people. And with his hands perfectly clean, the Emperor has murdered the threat to his throne in broad daylight.
@@TheRealVolk I would imagine he didn't because the Emperor was described as a untrusting/paranoid person.
Oscar Isaac's beard is a character on its own.
Note the camera angle when the Duke looks down at the table, hesitating before he presses his seal. It's a traditional camera angle of a funeral: looking up from inside the grave at the mourners. Except its his own funeral, and on some level he's at least partially aware of it.
Follow that with the shot of Gurney from afar with tight focus: another classic funeral shot.
And then the Reverend Mother, looking exactly like she's wearing funeral garb. It just utterly seals the unconscious image that this is the Duke's own death warrant he's signing, and they're all present to watch him do it.
Amazing observation! I think you've nailed it!
You studied film? Interesting observations
One of my favorite scenes in the movie. The feel and cinematography, and of course the audio design/OST is perfect
And how 'bout that look on the Herald's face after Duke Leto asks it its done...it is profound pity, almost compassion but not, for he knows that the Duke's fate is sealed. He is looking at a dead man walking. Ugh. Sends chills up my spine every time I see that scene and that look on the Herald's face....
@@jeffreydanese9260 absolutely agree! Love that tension, and the uncertainty from Leto and how he ask almost like a child “so…it’s done?“ Very hesitant on what is to come next.
I love how they cast Paul and Jessica. They genuinely look like mother and son.
This is undoubtedly my favourite scene in Dune. Especially going in blind, it sets up the atmosphere of the film perfectly. The score, the unspoken tension and political feel of it...I always enjoy the subtle threat of violence in dialogue more than the explosive action scenes. When I saw this for the first time, I knew I was going on an epic adventure. Secondly, I love how this feels like a populated alien world with a rich history. And I love when the future is depicted this way...the costume design is inventive without being unrecognizable. It's silhouettes and material we're familiar with, but looks otherworldly in this context. Finally, Oscar Isaac's voice is so majestic. He delivers the gravity and dread needed in the scene.
It’s a shame people don’t have the patience for build up. Never watched the previous dune media or read the books. But I was blown away by this story all the same.
You and me are in the same boat. Now I'm actually keen to pick up the novel's because this universe is just too intriguing
Me and my mother saw this opening day in a pretty packed dine in theater and were also blown away. My father who I saw it with in Imax unfortunately just thought it was okay so it definetley isn't everyone's cup of tea. I think alot of people nowadays like very simple storylines that dont require your full attention in order to understand what is going on and Dune is not that movie.
@@Briannaf57 yeah, I saw it with your mother, too! What a coincidence
this movie didnt bored me while my nephew bored to death thinks its. awaste of money
cuz hes a gen z
Sit through 2 1/2 hours of boredom now in hopes the sequel might not be as bad 2 years down the road. Okay.
This movie has such impressive class and style. It's a great theater film, too; for anyone who missed Part 1 on the big screen, be sure to go in for Part 2.
For sure bro
I missed the first part on the big screen and I hate myself for it.
its an intelligent film, it shows and doesn't tell. while it still didn't quite capture the full magnificence of the books, it did very very well.
I love how the Herald of change speak, menacing and ordering behind a sweet cold control.
That herald got into the right line of work. That man can herald!
Galactus: I'll be the judge of that.
"Here I am, and Here I remain."
the fact that Villeneuve managed to capture the sheer scale of things in the novel is simply a blessing
This is actually my favorite scene in the entire film! I love the music, tone, atmosphere, lighting, costumes, the scale and the performances. This scene is a gem.
One of the most awesome things they did here is the way Earth cultures are blended together to form new cultures, creating something familiar and alien at the same time.
The actor who plays the herald has a great orator voice, he sounded almost like Martin Luther King when he yelled reading the scroll
"It's done".
The Herald sounds slightly... Sad? Resigned? How much does he know or suspect? Amazing scene.
Everyone there kinda knows it's a trap...and they were all right.
@@harleyb7880 .....He WAS smiling...as much as one could smile knowing the truth
All they had to do was be prepared at for a night attack. Sorry it was there own stupidity.
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Yeah that was a plot hole.
A real army has night patrols always ready and looking at the skies to prevent an attack from happening but there we are...
@Johnney Johnson Dr Yueh confesses to sabotaging the defences. You can quibble about should there be spaceships flying patrols, or planes, or would the planes detect spaceships dropping in on them in time... but plotwise they covered the attack with "succeeded due to internal treachery". I'm happy enough.
The level of nuance in this scene gets better with every repeat viewing…
You can see the reverend mother giving a look to Jessica that's so withering it nearly breaks her composure.
@@Sgt_Glory I love the sound design. In the cinema it gave the sensation of a Bene Gesserit's judgement piercing right through you into the depths of your soul. The Bene Gesserit were done so much justice in this film.
I feel like it was the Duncan Idaho, Bene Gesserit, and Atreides' film. Part 2 will be the Fremen and Harkonnen film. The emperor and his daughter will have their moments in the final act just as his herald had in the first act here.
Dune 1 was perfection. The grandiosity, the pomp, the soundtrack, the acting, the world building. Just so well done.
This scene right here is pure perfection. The cinematography of this movie plus the soundtrack is mind blowing. The heavenly/dark soundtrack when the ship lands gives me goosebumps. Another goosebumps is when they both said its done and Hans Zimmer brings in the dark brass sound. Amazing
I truly loved Dune. I feel we finally have a movie that rises up to the book. The cinematography is amazing and the way they portrayed the technology and costumes is really "by the book". Dune is not about flashy and futuristic costumes and technology even though it exists and the movie does an excellent job with it.
The costumes feels futuristic, but also they are minimalist. I also like them
It's a hallmark of the director that he has a minimalist approach that borders on the mystical and almost serene. But I'm not a big fan of that.
I can’t explain why but 0:31 always gets to me. The scale, the music, it was the moment I knew Dune would give me everything I needed as a huge lover of the sci-fi genre.
Same
Rather unusual, but this scene should have been in the book. Also shows how even in very distant future, simple formalities and rituals still play a huge part. Also, everyone here play a role. Everyone here knows that this change of flef - is a trap for house Atreides. Duke knows it the best, but he can't disobey the Emperor - it is against his principles
If we had stayed in the age of chivalry and made it to the stars, yes it would likely look like this. But the chances of a feudal society becoming technologically advanced enough to reach the stars is unlikely considering how concentrated the resources are in the 1%.
@@fredkelly6953 I understand. But rituals like this--including ritual dress--exist today in the mid east oil baron countries (actually, the politics of real-world oil and the politics of fictional spice are a lot alike), and are practiced by some of the most 1% 1%ers of 'em all. I don't think it's a stretch that in the distant future a galaxy-spanning Empire could renew a feudalistic system. Plus, with the distance between worlds and long travel times I could see planets quickly developing highly distinct cultures and rituals easily. I don't think the deep future will be "modern day, but bigger and more advanced." I suspect some very new and distinct things will develop once we conquer space travel. What these things are I have no idea, thus why the subject of the deep future is so fascinating.
No it wasn't that it was against his principles but in refusing the position the atreides house would be declared outlaw and they would be forced to flee beyond the edge of the empire.
@@fredkelly6953 it’s the opposite, it regress in feudal. Too much world, too much powerfull monopoly. And so come feudal lord, who are the mighty 0.00001%...
@@playsauce Frank Herbert intentionally draws attention to these rituals in Dune, and this scene is a great addition to the narrative. It's very succinct in catching the viewer up on the universe, as well as making its statement on formality.
Emperor of the known universe was such a great line.
Right, so much history in such a short line. I loved it too
There's an entire conversation going on between the expressions of the Bene-Gesserit sister and Jessica.
One of my favorite things about listening to the score is realizing how much of the sound in these scenes is actually the sound of the ships, tech, etc.
The emperor's messenger is played by poet/singer/songwriter Benjamin Clementine. He's a treasure in all ways. Listening right now to his song 'Condolences'. Love his voice so much.
Herald: Do you Accept?
House Atradies: Bruh.. As if we can decline.
Denis has done a wonderful job bringing this book to screen. I think Herbert would have loved the first half
I think he would too, can't wait for part two
1:10 basically the far, far future's version of "this could have been an email"
The ansible was on the blink so they sent a telegram.
"We couldn't do a Zoom call?"
They don't have instantaneous interstellar communication.
They don't have computers to send email.
@@bodyshoplaboratories501 At least not networked ones.
The emperors envoy guy has impeccable bone structure.
The Herald delivers probably the most electrifying scene performance in the entire film. Pity we never see him again.
No, we should seee him in part 2 this year. Because he is not dead(yet).
Agreed, he's absolutely chilling even though he only has 3 lines, really.
he's right behind you
This movie has the single best representation of The Voice I've seen/heard. The Gom Jabar scene is masterpiece in itself.
This is my favorite part of the movie. It's the one that finally and completely draws me in to this science fiction world. I feel like this is where the movie truly starts.
Yeah, Dune needs more scenes and events like this.
I love how futuristic and medieval it looks at the same time.
the music when the spaceship starts landing is perfection, I was mad at myself for not having goosebumps when I first saw this.
One of the best Scenes in the movie, that "Herald of the Change" was something...he was straight to the point!
You can’t just appreciate the scale of this scene without seeing it on the biggest screen possible.
the way he says "it's done" is just magnificent
One of the best movies I've ever seen in my life.
You have to see it a lot of times to digest every single phrase and meaning of it.
I do like how after all the pomp and ritual and careful gestures and words and movements, the ceremony of it all... when the messenger picks up the contract, Leto asks him on a way almost embarrassed and unsure "so... it's done?"
It's such a monumental moment for his House and him that he's still unsure if there's other steps to take in this ceremony.
The messenger didn't have to say anything, but I liked how he paused, and for a moment the 'official' side of him lowered a tad, and he reassured Leto that it was indeed done.
All that... for a stamp in gold wax. No wonder Leto was unsure if there was more involved in the process.
the scale of things in this movie is jaw dropping - how could someone imagine it and then now execute it - masterpiece!
Duke Leto Atreides is the coolest looking dude in that entire film. I'd like to see more movies with him in them.
He’s super dead
1:49 "We're witnessed by members of Daft Punk, a bunch of fishbowls, and a nun who seems to have fallen asleep."
😂
This movie is a total masterpiece.
it is, we want to see part 2
this is like next step lord of the rings trilogy
3:09 Lady Jessica and the Bene Gesseret likely not only exchange looks but talk in their sign language to each other. That would be why Paul looks down, to watch what his mother was saying.
This is, oddly, my favorite scene in the movie. It's the one scene I want to watch over and over again.
Absolutely love the fact that the cinematography shows how lush and wet Caladan is, in comparison to Arrakis. This and the scene with the ships coming out of the sea, and Paul dipping his hand in the water on the shore.
I loved this scene. The world building and characterization from this scene alone does what some can’t do in an entire film, it doesn’t bog you down with exposition. It shows us how their society is, how the main characters feel about it and how their motivations.
A year later, I really want to see more of the actor that played the Herald. He did an awesome job.
I know right!! I had exactly the same thought. Unfortunately he’s not even a real character in the books as far as I know. Been a while since I’ve read them.
@Ferkeertgespelt No, but he can be counted as a member of the Imperial court, which was mentioned.
I'm a stickler for accuracy, but if they introduce a scene and character that fits thematically, that doesn't impact the story, I don't mind. Especially if it's well done.
This guy nailed it. He wouldn't have been out of place acting as a Herald for a king in our feudal era.
2:55 I have never noticed this until now, but Duke Leto has the same radio implant that Thufir Hawat has behind his ear. I just love the small, almost unnoticeable details like this that they put into the film!
Oscar Isaac in dune: epic speeches and stoic acting
Oscar Isaac in the Rise of Skywalker: “tHeY fLy NoW”
SoMe HoW pAlPaTiNe HaS rEtUrNeD
Which is still better than Oscar Isaac on Saturday Night Live
He's just an actor. He has to work with the material handed to him. In SW there was not much to work with.
Star Wars and Dune are completely different styles of sci-fi story.
They're kind of different characters. In "SW", he's a headstrong, reckless pilot. Here, he's ruler of a planet.
I love the camera panning over at 1:50 while he lists all of the factions there to witness this event, and as it centers on each representative group he says their name; the imperial court, the spacing guild, the bene gesserit. Such a simple but clever composition that lets you know who each individual is without the characters themselves having to speak. Costume designs are also on point here.
I've always assumed they were all spacing guild operatives. 1st and second stage navigators. Perhaps members of the Imperial court aren't really shown closely.
I love all the versions of Dune. 80's/ 2000's and the new 2021 version. They all bring something unique to this amazing story.
I actually delayed watching this since I avoid movies that get hyped up too much because most of the time, it's just disappointing. Well, this movie is far from that. This movie is without a doubt a MASTERPIECE. Everything in this movie, just screams quality and I'm glad I've witnessed it. I'm definitely looking forward to the sequels. 👌👌👌
It was the most incredible movie I've seen in theaters. Dune Part 2 cannot come soon enough.
This whole scene is just amazing. The way the herald reads the scroll and Leto's response is immaculate
"We're witnessed by members of the imperial court, representatives of the spacing guild, AND... Daft Punk"
The Herald gave me the impression of having a hard and fatalistic sympathy for Duke Leto.
The herald's face and tone when he says "it's done"...he might as well have said "*you* are done".
Oscar Isaac's monologue is everything !!!
Fantastic actor
@@chasehedges6775 yep... he's literally the only reason I'm gonna watch Moon Knight xD
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@@sujaypari6861 You like bland actors with no acting range, no charisma.
@@trhansen3244 what a pathetic loser you are 😂