Paul Atreides reminds me of someone...
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2023
- Just a quick little edit I made on a whim with no huge amount of effort. Sometimes I get in this kind of mood. I don't know audio for shit, so I didn't try to add the dialogue back in. Anyway, upon rewatching Dune after seeing AoT, I see some similarities in where Paul's character is probably going compared to Eren. They can both see the future so to speak and they have a similar darkness to them, also Timothee could 10000% play Eren PERFECTLY in live action, he even sounds like Bryce Papenbrook, Eren's english dub VA. I'm not saying they SHOULD do a live action AoT, HELL NO, we already got one and it doesn't look good.
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eren got them rookie numbers kda over 1 billion compared to Pauls 61 billion
Tbf, Paul got that Universe wide jihad advantage.
@@Urd-VidanI don't think Titans can fit in spaceships
@@stevensolitaria8062 I mean, they won't fit if you don't try. They got a couple thousand years to advance if Eren out lives the enemy and wins. You could even fit Titans with titan sized armor and stuff.
Just wait until the kid and the dog get Eren out of the big tree and he gets a chance to go to space.
m 😮k@@Urd-Vidan
Dune is the JoJo of the SciFy world. Everything is a Dune reference.
And yes Dune is an Asimov reference but so JoJo is a Fist of the North Star reference.
sci fi, scifi, its just sci fi, this isnt cable tv
@@gerardotejada2531Nah, Asimov doesn't explore ideas, they create it. There is soooo little similarities between dune and foundation
Actually yeah.... it inspired many works which then inspired many more
@@donotdoit8428 dune came in 1960
Dune with aot music goes so insanely hard
Insanely fucking hard Jesus ... i have to go watch dune 2 again 😅😅🥹
@@westbrookmvp4789same 😅 it’s soo good.
Everything goes hard with aot music
But gotta admit dune is not the same without hans zimmer ost essence.
And goes even better with OG Hans Zimmer
Always felt these lyrics of 'The Rumbling' fit Paul to a T:
"All I ever wanted to do was do right things, I never wanted to be the king, I swear!
All I ever wanted to do was save your life, I never wanted to grab a knife, I swear!"
Hesitation is a curse. It's a mental block i swear.
@@incogniftoar3943 Fear is the mind killer
Leto 2: 🪱😂
@@Butter_Warrior99 Then he turned himself into a worm funniest shit I've ever seen.
Frank Herbert has inspired worldwide authors and script writers for half a century
As written
I’m glad i’m not the only one who saw a lot of parallels between these stories. I think how both are ridden with that sense of “terrible purpose” throughout the series also solidifies it.
You do realise so many other movies, series and animes have parallels with Dune right? Remember Dune was the original big Sci Fi fantasy fiction story
A lot of AOT stuff is likely inspired by Dune
after seeing part2 of dune. the whole paul drinking the sandworm juice made me think of aot. and then the more i thought about being able to see into space and time reminded me of eren seeing or living the paths. and the paths is like in a sand place lol
same
Saaaame!
Literally the same thing. Dune inspired a lot of fantasy and sci worlds. The book was published in 1965
As soon as I saw Dune I was like.... oh... isayama just straight up copied almost this entire thing lmao
@@gg2fan Chahi is literally Mikasa, no?
Everyone is a slave to something
Even from ourselves
Mine is my cats. Those bastards are so lazy yet I can't help but love them
I am free in God
True, rather then being a slave to petty desires be a slave to God. Try to reach out to God and you will find Him
Because that's what make us keep alive become slave or rooting someone or it.
Without IT we may already think we don't have purpose in life.
"Why were you crying? What are you dying for?
Your dream -- did it satisfy or terrify?
...
I'm sorry -- we had been relying on you too much to be free."
Interesting how applicable the words of _Under the Tree_ are to Dune.
Yes, exactly 😍
And don't forget:
"If I lose it all, slip and fall I will never look away!
If I lose it all, lose it all, lose it all...
Or:
She said, she gave all her love to me....
We dreamed a new life someplace to be at peace,
But things changed suddenly,
I lost my dreams in this disaster,
I'm crying,
Where is my lover?
I don't have the power,
On my side forever...
Oh, where is my lover?
And I got no power,
I'm standing alone, no way,
Calling out your Name!"
I last read aot when the manga ended like 2-3 years ago and I don’t remember any of these references mentioned. Where are these from if you don’t mind me asking?
@@monojuice From the music of the anime. The words I quoted are from the song Under the Tree, which is the ending for one of the finale movies.
@@kyzer422 jesus christ there are movies?
@@monojuice Yes but they are referred to as specials instead of Movies, which are adapting the manga's conclusion and even expanded more with new scenes. They are great.
Except one thing... Paul doesnt commit to the Golden Path. Leto II does just like Eren commits to the Rumbling
Still the similarity is uncanny. Both have visions of the future where they cause a genocide, both are the chosen one so to speak, both have brown hair, and both fight to liberate a peoples
Paul did not took the golden path...but killed 61 billion people anyway.
Paul is more like Grisha in that he gets the ball rolling and is utterly horrified by the future he sees. Leto II is more like Eren in that he follows through on the future his father set in motion and becomes a monster for all to fight back against. Leto II even has a personal army who follow him fanatically in the Fish Speakers just like how Eren has the Yeagerists.
Only speedrunning the dune lore, so I know so little but god bless Isayama for writing an actual beautiful and sad ending with the cycle repeating at the end, and not writing another story about how the story just repeats itself , escalating on a different level
It’s left up to interpretation neither Paul nor Leto followed the golden path. The golden path would have been try obedience to the benne gesserit. And that was the sisterhoods folly thinking they could control ultimate power
Well to be fair DUNE was a very influential book and someone who has been a fan of it for 20 years, it wouldn’t surprise me if it does have some influence because it did remind me of it especially all the mind crossing past time and space and shared memories.
People in Japan as you see with Akira director, CSM and Neon Genesis have influences from western media.
Some NGE shape is influenced by an old British show called UFO. The maker of NGE was the leader of the fan club for the show in Japan.
People seem to think too often that influences don’t travel beneath the far reaching skies.
Exactly! And it's not like Isayama isn't very clearly taking inspiration from Western history and culture in his story. He has done a lot of research on it and included it in his work since Attack on Titan takes place in a very Western inspired world with European names for most of the characters. And it's ironic because Dune is heavily inspired by Middle Eastern Cultures despite also being a western work of art written by a white guy. Maybe the moral of the story is when you look deep enough everyone everywhere influences each other. :P
Probably inspired code Geass as well
Star wars is also based off of dune and anakin is heavily inspired by paul
The influence is so wild that Starship troopers is, technically, the "father" of gundam as a genre.
@@tauanwerneck3197 The power suit inspired Gundam mobile suits, the thing is that Gundam was the first one to take mechas and make them military and farming equipment instead of alien tech, gods or anything else, then the whole "Real robot" subgenre was born, and from there, shows like Fang of the sun Dougram, Macross and VOTOMS inspired a lot of other military robots in western media, even battletech directly used designs from those anime before modifying them to make their own
Back when I first finished watching season 3 of Attack on Titan, I had recently read the Dune books, and I remember thinking that Eren reminded me a lot of Paul.
One day someone will write an essay:"Dune or: why Isayama wrote nothing new"
More like "Eren Yeager must die so Paul Atreides can rise"
I mean Isayama still very much did his own thing with AoT...
Sure most (if not all) of the beats are the same, but the context and final messages couldn't be more different.
Dune is very much focused on the political and capitalistic sides of war, whereas AoT is very much focused on the "why" and getting to understand the emotional nuances of it when it comes to humanity and their hatred of one another.
Attack on titan did it first so its kinda unfair
@@noobmasterruben5167 You do know Dune was written nearly 60 years ago right?
@@Mitchob1012 oh yeah I forgot about that. And to be frank, AOT had a lot more buildup b4 Eren became evil. Dune only had like 1 movie
Hallucigenia titan originator Final form looks kinda like sandworm. The paths are in the sand. Eren transforms into worm like figure, like Leto Atreides II transforms into sandworm in the book God Emperor of Dune
how? Asside from being a worm how?
Paul mogs Eren
big time
nah man, it's pretty close
Paul for real
Disagreed
@@mananghildiyal2675Erin killed less than a billion People. Paul's Jihand killed almost a trillion. Rookie numbers.
Paul is actually grisha Jaeger, leto 2 is eren
Both those chumps wish they could be as cool as Paul.
Except Leto II have a plan which makes sense.
@@Kwisatz-ChaderachPaul is a coward compared to Leto II.
@@chancellorpalpatine4035Yeah, I didn't mean him 😆
@@Kwisatz-Chaderach As far as it was shown, Eren accomplished each and every one of his goals.
Just because you don't like it doesn't change what I said.😁
The virgin eren vs the chad paul
Paul is incest
Eren negs
@@mohdziyad9151The cuck Erehhhh wish
Kinda cringe
More like Eren reminds you of Paul
He (Paul) doesn't see ""The Future"", but possible Futures ! He is half Mentat* half Bene Gesserit + he drunk the Water of Life (the blue liquid Poison)
And he tries to save the Fremen (from the Harkonnen & the Emperor) through the narrrow ''Golden Path''.
That’s not what the Golden Path is. The Golden Path was to save humanity as a whole in the future, not just the Fremen.
Eren only sees MEMORIES. He can't change them. And Paul can
Finally I found someone who saw the parallels between these two peak fictions.
It's funny how Dune was a book before it was a movie, a plethora of books if I may add
and then you look more in detail and you see that dune was made before attack on titans
Dune is practically the father if the entire sci-fi franchise.
Leto II in the corner "Rookies".
There is only one god emperor
Dune is to modern fiction what Genghis Khan is to Mongolia.
I would probably say that Eren has more in common with Paul's son then he does with Paul himself.
Even does a freakish transformation like Leto II does!
"You either die as a Hero Or Live long to see yourself become a Villain"
Tried to convince my aot fanboy friend to watch/read dune. Just had to say its like eren jaegar in space.
Both can see the future and the past , both have a power, both have cult like following, both set on a path of destruction
You mean someone reminds you of Paul. Dune was published in 1965
Aot was straight up inspired by nazism and japanese xenophobia, which pharalells Paul with the Marleyans and the Nazi party.
I guess history repeats itself right, humanity needs a Jesus to progress. Even if holy war is inevitable.
All across the Paths, the Sands of Time, the Cosmic Force: we now hear about all these "Chosen One's/Messiah's/Revolutionary Leaders".
People who arrive and conduct their final plans in a manner that causes everyone to either double-take or really get into what's truly going to happen in order for them to reach the desired outcome.
Paul Maud'Dib Atreides, Eren Yeager, Anakin Skywalker... the stuff of legends.
Virgin zeta pidgeon Eren Jaeger vs Chad messiah emperor Paul Atreides
The song is Vogel Im Kafig from the Attack on Titan soundtrack.
AOT likely took inspiration from Dune, lots of works did
AoT's direct inspiration is MuvLuv not dune. Including the seeing the future stuff.
Peak just looks like other Peak.
Anakin, Eren, Paul, top 3 protagonist/antagonist of all time
Bro Ive been explaining to my friends Paul is just like eren but better 😂
Paul is more of Doctor Griesha but his son well...
Now you see big girl.
Many people seems to think seeing the future is the best thing to have as it makes you counter everything before it even begins. But if you really think about it. It just makes you perceive the flow of time as numerous branching paths that you are bound to no matter hard you try to escape it. The slave of destiny one could say.
Knowing he’ll talk about how Hitler put up insane numbers for what they consider Ancient times, as if he’s talking about the perfect military strat, this is a perfect comparison
Weird, I don't remember Paul wanting to hook up with his sister like Eren does before dying like a coward 🤔
Alia 💀
Not really his sister and this wasn’t him dying like a coward he was letting out how he was really feeling to his best friend, and he was talking to Armin (right after the fight at he docks) in paths while he was still doing the rumbling, he still died still pushing forward till the end
How did he die like a coward? He literally told Mikasa exactly where to kill him and encouraged her to do it in the Paths. He clearly did not fear death.
The part about him wanting to bang his sister tho…
But his son did 🥲
There’s a reason Paul, Eren, and Anakin skywalker are some of the best characters ever written. They’re tragic villains who are hero’s fallen from grace cursed with terrible purpose.
People always forget about Char Aznable completely, like his the clear inspiration behind Lelouch and even Eren.
Eren a good character 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@ElisaCondezoChe is a great character, a lot of people like him
@@Fancast100-wj4fu lot of people like him because he's edgy. Don't forget, Kirito is one of the most popular characters ever in the anime sphere.
@@CorvoA77ano not everyone likes him because of his edginess, others like him because he’s well written, his complexity, or his season 4 style
I think the biggest difference is that Eren believed his actions were selfless and actually wanted to save his people meanwhile Paul knew his motivations were selfish and exploited an oppressed people for his revenge
Damn did we read different stories?
Eren did not believe he was selfless at all. He just valued the lives and safety of the people on Paradis over everyone else, that’s still selfish as he is just choosing who he thinks should get to live.
@@loply9724 He BELIEVED, not that they WERE
@@gamerstheater1187 I’m pretty sure he realized how mess up his plan was, he just didn’t care
Paul's motives were not selfish. He gained the godlike ability to see multiple possible futures, all at once. It is left to the reader's interpretation what other possible futures he saw and how disturbing/catastrophic they were to make him so determined to do what he did in Dune. The most acceptable theory is that his actions led to the least terrible future. This is the tragedy of his character.
Paul Atreides > Eren Yeager
Paul is like Eren, but better.
Eren is a miniature version of Paul. Eren can only see one fixed future while Paul can see numerous futures and choose a path for himself.
It’s crazy seeing how so much of the film was shown through trailers
Except Dune (book series) was created way before Eren.
YES, JiHaDist
I also think of the similarity of the two characters once i finish watching DUNE2. In deed the struggle between them are so similar.
everything is a dune reference.
Isayama must have been a big Frank Herbert fan
Glad I wasn't the only one who thought they shared a bit of similarities lol
literally the first thought that came to my mind after watching the first movie is that this dude is basically eren lmao
The Virgen Eren VS The Chad Paul
Couldn't stop thinking this during the movie, cool to see someone else thought it too.
The most important difference is that Paul did accomplished his goal
If you think about it, it's not unlikely that Shingeki is inspired by Code Geass, and Code Geass is practically the story of DUNE if it took place in Japan (A young man from a royal family is betrayed, and then decides to use a power to help an oppressed group and with their help become emperor)
Ehh I see what you mean but I would say Aot is more like Dune than it is Code geass. Aot and Code geass do have similar themes overall, However in terms of Lore, world building, characters, politics, etc, they're just too different imo. The closest similarities they have is their endings, but even then I think they're more different than they are similar. Code Geass's ending is more idealistic and fantastical, while Aot's ending is more realistic and horrific overall. That's not to say one is better than the other. I just think Aot and Code geass are way too different.
Aot is more like Muv Luv a story that inspired it, even the endings of both stories are way similar to the point where it feels like a direct copy, that's why some people believe Aot will come back with a second ending just like Muv Luv did, but that's another topic.
The writer never said that
He rumbled the fuck out of both the Harkonen and the emperor, and worst of all he too betrayed his buff love interest with a shawl.
me and my best friend had the exact same after walking out of the theatre
Frank Herbert made Dune while high on whatever drugs he was using. The power of the spice is unquestionable
es increíble como Dune con la música de Shingeki no Kyojin cambia por completo el ambiente de las escenas
Eren yeager 🗿
Paul Atreides 🗿
Anakin Skywalker 🗿
What if I told you there’s this guy who transforms into a sandstorm would y’all believe me.
Two faces of the same coin. Both are powerful men enslaved to the enlightened future they so desire.
Paul is FREE!
Only Erehhhh is a cuck to the future or whatever bullshit was that shit.
If we were ever to get a live action remake of AoT in a few years, I could only see Timothee Chalamet being Eren.
wait till they read the book
to paul in 2 billion years
А помните Эрен и Армин мечтали увидеть пустыню и океан?
Dune(books) came before aot
I’m Japanese. I am fan of attack of titan and DUNE. I feel Paul Atreides who just like Eren too.
They are very kind.
Paul is the most evil person after the baron
Finally 😁 Im not alone on this 🤭
Me af when I finished watching the movie
Wait till you see Leto the second.
The Wormin Time and The Titanin Time have so many parallels, specially the loving their sister bits.
oh well. being say this forever. lol
Well, since Dune came first - a LONG time before Attack on Titan - I'd say it's the other way round ...
Doesn't matter, since reminding is about something you know, not which piece is older.
@@DundG
Thank you
Fight! You must fight! If you win, you live. If you lose, you die. If you don't fight, you can't win!
Bad boy's father dies suddenly and the boy is forced into the battlefield. Once he has mastered his new powers, he meets up with all the other powers in the world, who want him dead. He duels the one most similar to him and after he wins, he basically controls the world and kills a bunch of people
so relatable
When i heard the dialouge in theatre i literally thought Wait that's eren man
Damn, I shoulda uploaded this video on my main channel, didn't know this shit would pop off xD
one of those stories was written many years before the other.
Eren Yaeger reminds me of someone...
Paul cannot see the future, he calculates it
He doesn't calculate it he literally sees it from the spice melange
@@Zeenobut melange gave him abilities similar to those of mentats and navigators that work like computers, which makes paul an organic computer with enough intelligence to be able to construct different possibilities for the future that serve as predictions as described in the book (sorry if the english is not good)
@@mhbehrens5263 My man the entire point of him becoming The Kwisatz Haderach was to be able to see into the future. His visions were nothing but hazy glimpses into what could lie into the future but now he sees branching paths laid out in front him.
Dune was Before attack on Titan sorry kids
WAY WAY before like 1965...
ngl that's kinda why I watched Dune
Going to see it a second time with my fiance tommroow love this movie
I’ve even forgotten my
Will the whole world know your name
I’m the reclaimer of my name
Everything copied Dune to some extent
It’s the opposite, cause dune came before AOT. So really Eren reminds you of Paul
technically dune was first, but i see your point
There is an obvious archetype here.
Eren, Paul, Anakin ... Jesus ?
Shinzo wo sasageyo!
Not trying to be an ass but Paul's character is way more complex and intricate in comparison to Eren's.
100%
Yup, that's true. Paul's arc makes so much more sense, he knew what he was doing and did it anyway. In case of Eren.. well he's just stupid, he said so and I believe him, it's the grand revelation, we thought there's something deep but there isn't. It's not tragic it's pathetic.
True. 100%
Eren isn't Paul, eren is Leto II. Becoming the greater evil to unite humanity
I haven’t read it but I feel like Paul since he found out the backstory of his mother birth like when Eren found out about his dad backstory
I feel in terms of anime, Paul is A bit more Lelouch than Eren Jager.. but very cool!
Do one with ash on the fire
Fun fact: Game of thrones is highly inspired from Dune. And a lot of characters from Attack on Titan are inspired from Game of thrones
I think there's similarities with Lelouch from Code Geass. Both were foreigners who were seen as saviors, both were anti-heros, both had god-tier command and control skills. Were there other similarities?
*spoilers ahead*
Eren has more similarities with Paul's son, Leto II than himself.
- Their fathers are outsiders
- Their mothers aren't their fathers' first wives
- Power to transform into a monster (Leto can't change back)
- save and unite the world by becoming the common oppressors of the people.
- Both have powerful retainers (Duncan & Mikasa)
- Both died by the hands of their retainers
- Their deaths are necessary in creating a new era of peace.
- Both can communicate with their predecessors who had their powers.
- Both inherited memories of their predecessors.
Paul is the eren who marry historia ??
Paul is the eren who married royalty to earn more power.