The API 1608-II Recording & Mixing Console - Inside the Console at Cellar Door Studios
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- Опубліковано 16 кві 2023
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What gear do you use for recording in music production?
I use an Avalon U5 for bass DI. Highly reccommended!
SSL BigSex-Distressor-Black Lion Bluey ...trying to save for RUPERT NEVE Summing Mixer .
Maschine Studio's touch sensitive knobs gave me same impresion ;)
Hahaha, my gear is crap…. That’s why I watched this video.😂
Mackie 1202fxV2 console
Mbox2 interface
PT8LE daw
It’s definitely crap gear, but man it’s FUN !!!!!!!!!!!
3 Digidesign 888/24
by far one of my favorite consoles of all time.. just feels amazing to sit in front of and work on.
Wow! Thanks ever so much for sharing
Now that's what I call a 500 series rack! Got me drooling
Haha yes, indeed!
Just so fun always seeing an inside look at how professionals and experts showcase the behind-the-scenes of their work and beyond. Fantastic!
Yeah it's crazy that you can look over the shoulders of the greatest mixers of all time.
Thanks ever so much RC32!
@@Big_Old_Bondy yes, I've been blessed to work alongside some of the greats of all time!!
I bought a 2448 from Dave for my previous spot in Milwaukee, Wire & Vice. Dude is legit good people, loved working with him and will put another API in my new room here in Seattle when I get to that point... probably a 1608-II as shown here. Incredible consoles, the automation is phenomenal and dead easy to work with.
Yes, agreed! Big fan of Dave, great guy!
Tasty looking console, with old and new tech working seamlessly together. Whats not to like. Thanks very much, great video.
Thanks ever so much!
a api 1608 what dreams are made from.. and the greatest sounding mixxes ..one word ..unreal
Marvellous! Thanks ever so much!
thank you its rare to see a api there so cool
@@jjjohny_a5965 huge fan of the 1608! It have consoles a new lease of life!
only seen them from streams.. but from the 500 modules to the faders it looks like it dose it all real well...also great streams
Tgis console is INCREDIBLE. Thanks !
Awesome!! There is just something special (to my ears) about the API sound.
Marvellous! Thanks ever so much!
OMG what a treat this is. All this information!!!!
Thank you for sharing!!!!!!
Thanks ever so much!
Maybe geeky, but a series talking through classic consoles that many of us will never see would be great! How the EQ and comp sections etc set them apart. Pressing play now!
That’s a very cool idea indeed!
Wow! beautiful piece of gear.
What an incredible console! Man if I could afford it I would get it in a heart beat. Really looking forward to those mix breakdowns!!
We did the rough mix of it a couple of days ago!
The console is so nice!! 🎉
Wow!! Great people with a great console!
Wow! Thanks Michael!
Thats a great mixing board to do your mixing on. Mixing Great stuff... on that thing.. that thing it is... an API
Thanks ever so much Marc! You Rock!
I cant speak about the API mixers but I love the UAD API Channel strip I rent on ocassion from Spark. I use it with Steven Slate Trigger on Drums along with SSL Drumstrip. So far so Good! Cheers Warren
Thanks ever so much for sharing
Fun fact! That API Console for the Fray still lives at a non profit organization in Denver!
Loved the layout of the 1608. Still wished they went with proper buttons for transport vs having it on the touch screen.
I think this mk2 will do great for them and rightfully so.
Yes, wonderful console indeed
Nice console.
I'm playing a drinking game where I don't take a drink if Warren mentions The Fray. Coming up on 8 years sober this year!
Hard not to when I had the 7th one of these made!! I know the console very well and we did get a number one album while recording through it! Haha
Congratulations on 8 years! 🎉
@@Producelikeapro and in turn congratulations on a massively successful album! You're a good sport, sir
@@draztiqmeshaz6226 haha you’re welcome! I have first hand experience of where you are at, congratulations on your time
I really want to get one of these for my studio! I got to save them pennies.
Yes, beautiful!
Dan Zimbelman told me I was going to buy one of these when they first came out. 😅
I met Dave at the Inter-Bee show in Japan last year. Great guy. 👍🏻
Omg I want this!!!
Haha I hear you! Thanks ever so much!
This would be a great giveaway!!!!🤣🤣 Great as always Warren 🤘
Hahahahaha YES! It would!
There’s an audible and appreciative difference with API pre’s. Hard to explain. Can’t wait for the next segment.
Thanks ever so much for sharing
I’m finding out the same!
If I ever bought a console, this would probably be it👍
Yowsa! It certainly is great!
@@Producelikeapro value, for money; I don’t know if anything beats it!
@@LBJedi marvellous!
I love API’s stuff. I’d totally have one of these in an analog room.
13:20 Anyone else notice Warren considering building an entire new wing on his house just for a 2448 control room? 😜
omg need one
I loved using this console on many albums!
Cool I like it
Thanks ever so much!
Thanks a lot!
You're very welcome!
Best regards from Brazil
@@guilhermebahia8749 hello to you in Brazil home of Pele!! What a talent! And of course Ayrton Senna!
For lol those on the forums who swear they hear a difference sometimes huge between the pres. Well this just makes you all seem a bit full of it. Lol. Thanks for the video. Always loved API
I’ll stay out of that conversation ha
I wish I was young again in this day and age....not really I would have missed the 60's but I dont remember much back then either wink wink haha so much technology love the book Warren almost done going through it and have made my notes! You are so knowledgable I wish I could have been an apprentice- so much to know and yet I'm all in the Box- would love to have learned the console aspect of it and hardware I feel that would have been more enlightening knowing that first before going all Box like Scheps!
FINALLY
Haha yes!!
I want one nowwwwwww
What gear do I use? Nothing like this beautiful board. Just gorgeous. I can only dream -- thanks Warren!
Absolutely
That’s why the price will go down or like most people you rent a studio and if these damn plug-ins in DA Whs didn’t take over the world you wouldn’t have that problem you have stuff like the zoo mile 12 probably a lot better cause they’re good but you should know what to do and what not to do
Can you interview someone with a Neve Bcm 10 & somebody with a Rupert Neve 5088 and somebody with a SSL origin next? I keep rewatching this video over n over. Buying a console is a hard decision there’s a few options haha
Thank You! I love API stuff and there just aren’t enough videos out there about the consoles. If channel count was the issue, what are the main differences between this and the 2448?
Glad to be able to help!!
The main difference between is that the 2448 is in-line, so you have a large fader path and a small fader path. The bus architecture and center section are the same with a few subtle differences pertaining to the in-line functions. The 1608-II is available in 16, 32, or 48 channel configurations while the 2448 is available in 24, 32, or 40 channels. There are some additional options available to the 2448 such as 30" producer's workstation and 19" rack buckets as well.
@@APIAudioOfficial awesome - thank you very much for taking the time to answer that for me. That’s exactly what I was looking for. For some reason I had it in my head that the 1608 was inline as well but with pots instead of the small faders. Great explanation!
@@nixc1972 Glad it helped clarify. It's worth noting that the 2448 small fader is actually a pot. The AXS console has a large fader and a traditional small fader however.
Very nice! How would stand with a Neve BCM 10?
Feature set is better on the API. Other than that it’s the Neve VS API which sound do you prefer?
@@Producelikeapro Of what I’ve listened to, Neve. Cheers!
Nice board!!!
Yes! Amazing
What album does Warren say he made on this console near the end? Where can i hear this thing?
Question for Warren: like a lot of people, I exclusively use an interface box to plug mics into ProTools. So I’m using whatever preamps are in that all-in-one interface box. (an Onyx Blackbird by Mackie) How much difference, and what sort of difference, might I get from sticking an external mic pre before the interface?
I've seen improved results by having a mic pre and compressor going into a line level input on my interface. It allows me to keep the level on the interface lower which helps with noise because I have more control over the signal going into the interface.
@@Ryan_Messenger thanks ever so much for sharing your experience! That really helps people!
And then I saw the price tag! Ouch! Still want one, though. 😮
So one thing I don't quite understand with recording with analogue consoles with DAWs... When you use the Direct Out on each Channel, you can't actually use the EQ and the Compressor, because you take the signal right after the gain stage, right? So is this something people actually do? Or do they instead use the insert sends to go into their AD/Audio-Interface? But when you do that, you will still get the signal before the fader. Honestely, I've been recording for years but since I never really used analogue consoles, this kinda confuses me.
On this board the direct outs are post fader, so you can drive the mic pre as desired then use the fader to attenuate to “tape” after processing using the EQ and, optionally, the insert point. Additionally, you can tap/reinsert the signal at the preamp output, EQ input, EQ output, and fader input, so it can be used in many configurations, including pseudo inline. We did some of this in the tracking video from last week
@@mikearango1744 Thanks a lot, now it makes sense! Are direct outs always post fader on these recording mixing desks?
@@mikearango1744 Interesting. I've always been a "record the raw audio and process later" type. But being able to switch post-EQ send, and then pre-EQ return would be really useful -- particularly if you need more filters than you have variable pots, and still want to use the hardware. I bet the schematics are quite lively! haha
@@nickwallette6201 one of the things I love about using consoles is committing to the sound! Personally I prefer to print with EQ and compression on, when needed, then be able to bring up on fader the song exactly as I hear it! That’s the way the albums we hold up S being the greatest ever made were all done. However, I understand that not everyone is confident in doing that and it take many years to get to a place where you feel confident committing your sound
Nice video, as usual! What's the name of the white midi controller at the left part of the table?
The piece right by where Dave is resting his hands? That's the remote for the Dangerous MonitorST monitor controller
@@CellarDoorRecording Hi!! Nops! Just the other side (just right on the right of other person that appears on the video). It has a lot of buttons and a "roulette". It can be seen on 5:26, just at the left of the keyboard. Thanks!!!
@@david87trs Sorry, I'm not sure. The only white things I see in the video are the MonitorST remote, Apple keyboard, SPL meter, and the SSL Bus Comp. If you'd like to post a screenshot I'll be able to tell you
have api the box 2 very nice sounding
Thanks ever so much for sharing
One Thing I'd Love to know is roughly how much it costs an Hour to use this mixing console ( Electricity wise in Uk , for instance)
Man, I want an API 1608 ii so badly. I almost pulled the trigger and just bought one. But there is no tech for 1000 miles from where I live. Didn't want to gamble with that. It would sink me 😢 lol .. maybe another time
That's definitely worth thinking about! One of the reasons I personally chose the 1608-II is its completely modular design. They're easy to work on, and if something goes very wrong then the offending module can be shipped off to API
@@mikearango1744 Mike!! You Rock my friend!! Agreed, huge fan!
My honest experience with long established, credible hardware companies is there is a reason why they are still in business after 50 plus years! Reliability and accountability. All the API equipment I own has not as yet ever needed any maintenance and the API 1608 we used on the 2nd Fray Album was plug and play with zero maintenance ever.
These are fully warranted brand new consoles, not vintage. holding on by their finger tips units! Haha
That's what spares are for. :-) If every channel is a set of line cards, you can have one each on a shelf. It would likely be pricey to keep the automation controller as a spare, but if it is indeed just a mechanical addition to a 100% analog desk, then you should be able to limp along without it. As Mitch Hedberg would say "escalators can't ever be out of service, they just become stairs." So it is when this desk becomes just a manual analog mixer. ;-)
Is it worth the cost difference when everything can done for under 5,000 if that
If you can track, monitor, send headphone mixes etc a full band through 500 series Mic Pres and EQs for less than 5k I say go for it!
@@Producelikeapro can’t you do most of that with digital mixers and DAWs? Granted it’s probably nice to have it spit out a very close to final product at a high quality right off the bat without a lot of tweaking but idk I’m new to this setup
@@rosspeterson2658 well you need a monitor controller to get to all the different set ups etc then of course all of the fader Automation etc.
@@rosspeterson2658 you can definitely record a full band with a large interface and converters!
@@rosspeterson2658 I’m ALL for recording music inexpensively!
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Classic Warren... "So walk us through the console." - then _Warren_ proceeds to walk us through the console. 😂 I kind of find that to be an English thing, to ask questions and then immediately answer them yourself.
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I suppose it's a giveaway for the console 😂
Hahaha if only! Then I would enter hahaha
@@Producelikeapro 😂 Then you would get more subscribers than needed 😁
@@oh515 haha I know! Could you imagine?
@@Producelikeapro Yes! But not fair though. 🥹 “And the winner is a British guy called Warren.”
No problems getting the faders to contact-conduct considering the amount of nose grease on your fingers. Ha, just ribbing you Warren! Great video really enjoyed the console.
Nice console, cool video (as always!).. But come on, german broadcast- and recordingstudios are using this "change a module, when it fails" since the 40's?!? All Siemens, telefunken, Neumann stuff works this way....
I don’t believe it’s any kind of competition or downplay to any other company whether they are still current or now gone to point this feature out. Many companies to save on price do not make this feature and most importantly the current and hugely successful 500 series modules are ALL because of API and that has conquered and out lasted all competition. So I think it’s pretty ok to point that out.
I have a Soundcraft Ghost :(
Thanks for sharing
I can only imagine how much this thing costs :/
700 units sold? How can that be economically viable! Lovely product though....
58 grand 😢
Very feature rich which is sort of a negative in my eyes. Seems like you could make the same console without all the automation and motorized faders for about one fifth the price.
This is actually something I like about API - you can get all their tone-shaping stuff in Lego pieces to do whatever you want with. (Not that it's within my budget, but I like it nonetheless.)
My dream setup would be 100% modular. Racks of 500 pres and EQs and compressors, everything straight to DAW after the pres, a completely digital fader board with no audio -- just automation send/recv, and an analog summing box to mix the channel outputs from DAW. You could go anywhere from 100% analog (except with DAW-as-tape), to 100% ITB.
80-90% of the price of any console like this is going to be the case, the mic Pres, the EQs, the faders, the knobs, the VUs etc. the other features are all optional. So you can buy it loaded in all kinds of configurations
Look at those burns!!!
$60,000 ....there HAS to be a way to make this at a lower price.... Yes I know it's not going to be $5K, but this elitism helps no one. This is MORE than most TESLAS!
That's true, but Tesla's preamps are terrible.
The console without all the additional features is a lot cheaper. I’m sure if they manufactured 500,000 a year using robots, like Tesla they could half the price! Not sure the demand for robot made Consoles is large enough! Ha in the meantime I think they’ll stick with handmade by human consoles, given they are maybe selling a 100 (max) or so a year!
Haha indeed Nick! The real question is how are API’s electric cars?
@@Producelikeapro Punchier and cleaner than Neve’s? 🙃
You should never pay that kind of money unless you’re rich it’s called rent a studio and if the computer industry with DAW wasn’t a thing then consuls would be a lot better and then you could use the a W’s but not abuse them and if you know what I mean I think you should have some talent for God sake Jesus
hmmm I think a pro console has matching EQs if you want to produce like a pro....
phase delay is probably different across multiple eq types especially switching to graphics, etc for a random few channels..