Eddie Van Halen's Symmetrical Scales
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2024
- Here's the next episode of Scales & Tales with Eddie Van Halen's Symmetrical Scales. I've had a lot of requests to feature Eddie's music, playing habits, secrets, and more - so I felt this would be a great lesson to add to the assortment of EVH-related episodes on the LNL channel.
This lesson takes a look at Eddie's awkward but immensely musical symmetrical scales commonly found in his music. After a brief introduction to what symmetrical scales are and how you can approach using them in music, we're off to the races with countless phrases, licks, and ideas that came directly from Eddies's playing habits and music. Eddie used many of these symmetrical-based ideas and concepts in his playing frequently - from small licks and brief fills to entire guitar solos.
Once you've worked from this lesson you should have a firmer grip on how to use some of these fingering-based ideas, which can also be found in the inspiring playing of guitar legends such as Allan Holdsworth, Shawn Lane, Buckethead, and countless other masters of symmetrical scale usage. As you'll see, there are various approaches you can find based on this material.
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What a bang-up job on EVH. It is so true, Eddie took convention and dumped it in the trash, cause he and his family were flat-broke. Necessity being the mother of invention, he took it all the way...and built a $300 million empire. Such an extraordinary story. I think that patch of sidewalk in Pasadena, CA where Ed and Alex, scratched "Van Halen" into the wet cement as young adolescents, should be designated a historic site. These boys made good.
Man, I am a guitarist of 35 years, a professional music composer and, until recently touring artist. I teach guitar and am still always active in creating and learning. I must say, you are one of THE BEST teachers and proponents of rock, in particular EVH that I have ever seen. I just wanted to give my appreciation, with love from London 🇬🇧 UK ✊️😊
You need to get out more, buddy!
Absolutely!
@@elliotjohnson2159 Bit harsh!
@@elliotjohnson2159 gonna follow you, you must be final boss in teaching Van Halen...
@@elliotjohnson2159 No need to be such a cuck
Dude, as far as I'm concerned, Christmas comes every time you post a video. You're the gift that keeps on giving. Take it to the heart, my man👍🏼
Yes sir I've taken so many licks from him just sitting and talking playing explaining how this is done. ✔️ you can't help but learn.
The solo on Push Comes To Shove is a masterpiece. It's when Eddie went Holdsworthian for a few seconds and then back into Eddie land. It really is beautiful.
To me, his most tastiest well written solo ever ever ever
Agreed. I always thought I was the only one that felt this way, but reading many comments since his passing about the love for this solo. It's def Eddie's love letter to Holdsworth, has such intense emotion & my all time fav VH solo. Cheers!
Yess!! Lately I've been listening to that song a lot. The phrasing is just so fluid and impeccable. That song is criminally slept over.
and jason evans - this popped up today in my face and of course I knew you'd dig and instrumental version, enjoy my VH family
ua-cam.com/video/LLsPejkhK-c/v-deo.html
His best work & prolly greatest solo all time by any .............. bar none!
I never knew why Eddie's solos sounded so unique. It's because lots of notes his licks were not part of the proper scale. It's those clashing notes that give it a flair. Very cool. Thanka.
You are one of THE BEST IF NOT THE BEST guitar/music teachers in youtube right now. Don't know why this channel didn't blow up already. Keep up this great teaching channel, you are a gem. This channel is goona be epic!!!!
Well Eddie died and everythings going to 5hit but we've got Dave to help keep morale up
YES, we need some GOOD NEWS, like STOP THE STEAL, please!
shush we have mikey alex and sam still
What?..With Rainbow bar and grill?horrible tribute but Dave was always strange
Dont forget sammy, michael, His son wolfie
@@thebeanmachine4369 Just watched Wolfie perform 'Distance" on the Today show ..Incredible !!
I remember when I first started taking guitar lessons and got a bit into VH, I remember that pattern at 8:20 from "Im the One". I asked my teacher if it was deliberate or it was just him being lazy just taking that 1-2-4 shape up the strings. He said it was deliberate but I didn't believe him really. I was so ingrained into thinking of those diatonic scale shapes, and how those licks 'need' to fit the diatonic scale pattern. I thought it was laziness haha. Now I know its a mix of simplicity and harmonic interest, which is really very smart!
There is not much more that I can say about Eddie's talents. He was the best in my book.
EVH=GOAT
I gave ya a like but I love Rhoads first. Close call tho.
That opening salvo of notes in Ice Cream Man is simply breathtaking, and may be the greatest intro into a sole, ever!
You know what would be amazing is if you analyze a particular solo of Eddie's where he's not just doing fast runs but being incredibly melodic like, push comes to shove. You can show how his note choices are being used against the bass riffs and chord changes in the background and why it all works so well. That would be an outstanding video!
The thing with Eddie is that he did it first. As some say "there are no wrong notes", and speed helps to sooth our ears
Well said my brother. I will say this that I have never cried over anyone other than friends or family so far as anyone passing, but after it’s sunk into my head for about 20 minutes and I thought about that smiling face and how many years I have studied and listened and admired his playing it really just broke me down …like I had just lost my best friend… His impact on me and some of my really close friends has been more than words can describe because that’s how he played …thank God for recordings. God bless brother
You are an awesome teacher! You do such a great job in explaining the “why” behind the music. You do it in such a nice and encouraging way as well.
I don't know all the names exp 3rd 9th Dorian. But I do get the shapes .and you have got to be be hands down one of the best at explaining some of this .even if you don't know the technical names your a huge help.because I know many of these scales bit not the names .and you help apply it even if your not a theory guru.
Thank you.
Your star wars poster was my wallpaper as a kid. I cant express what Eddie's music means to me. Respect.
I remember the summer of 2002 I first saw friend of a friend playing some basic blues licks possibly wind crys marry. At the time I was very heavy into skateboarding around this time VH1 had a special on grunge and these were the two things that got me to stop ✋️ and say I have to learn how to play the guitar I had never been so determined in my life. My big thing was I want to play solos any guitar any solo sounds like angles speaking to me. Long story short my dad on holidays took me to guitar center and I got a squire strat and crate amp. And not to go to waste he put me in lessons with this 80s long hair rocker. And he could see my passion for licks and shred guitar. Till this time I was 17 never heard van Halen and he put in cd and let me listen to eruption from that day my life changed it was like magic co.ing out of the cd player. I'm now 36 20 years into playing and thank God I found your Chanel you have put the cherry on the top of the Sunday and gave me the light bulb 💡 moment I have been longing for soooo long to have it all make sense. My dad just got me kramer barracuda this Xmas and I striped it in 🎖 of Ed and will be shredding till the day I die. I'm still working on my blues. I taught myself harmonica and. this has helped. But can sure tell the difference in playing one is more mechanical the. blues really does have to come. from the feelings inside. But I still have many years left and hope to one day play with a band. Thank you so much for this and other lessons you are a fantastic teacher.
I've been playing for 25 years, and I never knew where these shapes came from. I was a huge EVH fan when I began to play in my teens, and now I know how and where these "symmetrical scale" ideas popped in my head. I have seen the light! Thank you!
I don't care what David plays, I just love the singing tone he has, and so fast and fluid too.
Old Dave Yes ! In the last years game over.
I've been listening to Push Comes To Shove a lot lately, it might have my favorite EVH solo. That song is just one brilliant guitar part after the other.
20:36 Great point! I was about nine when I first saw Eddie on the Les Paul Tribute Show in the late 80s and I was kind of overwhelmed by the really high pinched harmonics and other pyrotechnics - to me it was like a machine out of control hahah!
Excellent breakdown, David!!! I love your point of view on these EVH ideas. Gives me a whole new way of looking at all of them. Thank you for this!!🤘😎👍🎸🎸🎸🔥🔥🔥💣💣💥💥
Killer lesson Dave! Please take us on your journey through EVH land. There's so much to learn.
After decades of doing tribute bands I finally decided to do a VH tribute and what you are showing here is exactly what I learned! EVH was all about shapes rather than conventional scales. To my ear it all comes out sounding kind of like what a birds singing sounds like or an even weirder reference would be R2D2 😂 the first and last note matters and anything in between is just a wild collage of notes that don’t really make sense but sure are fun to listen to! Ad a dive bomb here and there, harmonics, a little blues and finger tapping and wala, that was EVHs bag of tricks right there. Great job on the video!
Btw, I swear I have met you somewhere? Have you ever been to England, Alaska, Japan or phoenix Arizona? The first time I saw one of your videos I was like “ don’t I know this guy ?”
This video and a video about three pentatonic licks you can shred alternate in my daily warm ups from now on
Great lesson, and it's cool to see Eddie's licks broken down in such a way that they make sense. You do a fantastic job of teaching. I never could play like Eddie but I always loved & appreciated what he did.
That 11-12-14 pattern is from "I'm The One". Excellent lesson!
16 17 19, also
That whole song from start to finish is about 130 mph & in our face. Love that song .
That song is great. I crossed the Rubicon when I learned that song on drums.
@Scram Jam " It's leaving here we aggravate you " but it's all good
Even though this level of playing is so far beyond my comprehension, it's still fascinating to watch (and 'kinda' learn). Thanks, LNL!!
Dimebag, big fan of Eddie's also used it in his solos. Cowboys From Hell, Domination for example. Great vid.
Eddie was the greatest rock player in my opinion. Nice video. People forget Alex is a god, and that was Eddie's backdrop..
David Brewster, I think that's your name "thank you" for the video's you do. I personally met Eddie Van Halen while he was alive way back in the 1990's he explained a bunch of his approach and you are very close to what he said to me. He used chromatic with little bit of a focus on specific scales, but it was usually standard fingering pattern. A very simple approach after meeting him and Glen Cambell, which is why Eddie Van Halen met me he wanted me to introduce him to Gen Campbell. Between meeting Eddie and Glen it made me re-asses what my playing focus and practice should be less memorization and more learning to hear what was there, it shortened my practice and opened my view of playing up. Thanks, Mr. Brewster for reminding me of Eddie.
LOVE how you used legato on the scale shapes along with economy picking too!
Ok I am sold Maestro! How do I sign up for more instruction? You are the best teacher I’ve seen on UA-cam!
I have paused this video to comment here. I find it so hard to wrap my head around the idea that Ed never had a guitar lesson. Certainly I'm not saying he was a liar. I do believe him, but how crazy is it that all of this was just improvised? I mean I don't care who you are, or what kind of music you're into. This dude was unreal in his style. The professional acts at that time were all scratching their heads as we were. I'm so glad that I lived through this. The impact is comparable to seeing a UFO or Bigfoot. I own three Wolfgangs and they are a superb example of who he was in his inventive nature as well. So so glad I lived through this.
EVH was able to take what he learned (by watching) his piano teacher and apply it to the guitar. I watched a video with someone who (first experienced EVH) when he made the comment, sounds like he "Eddie" is playing a piano.. wow I was like omg... my two cents...
It's not that surprising when you take into account his musical background and how many hours a day he experimented on the guitar. Some people learn best by having someone show them and then taking that a step farther while others learn best by simply trial and error. Eddie is one of those people who could apply what he learned musically to any instrument he tried to play. That never worked for me as years of piano playing didn't help me understand anything about guitar but within three months of playing guitar I was a much better player than after years of piano playing.
It's just all in how your brain is wired and how much work you're willing to put in.
You have put so much heart into these Late Night Lessons and uncovered topics of mystery and have made my day many times thank you!!!!
Love the Stax sign-my dad and mom are the architect and designer for that studio
there is a video with EVH'S guitar tech for touring and how his guitar is setup and tuned it's very interesting and some good info.
Great lesson video, thanks for posting this video!
Rest In Peace Eddie Van Halen
Really informative. Deceptively simple technique with a musically complex result.
Brewster just wanna say THANK YOU for actually having a nice tone in your videos. Some other guys have kemper direct stuff that hurts the old eardrums
Great work Dave!! Love that “ice cream man” phrase.
That’s one hell of a stretch!👍🇬🇧
Dave, you and Ben Eller are probably my favorite teachers on UA-cam. Love it
BAM! David does it again! Thank you so much. Not only for your insight, but for your inviting, thorough, and calming teaching method. You da man! Appreciate all you do! Thanks man.
There are a lot of EVH hackers, but this guy is one of the best. Mad props.
With the "minor" symmetrical scale - which is shown in A starting at the 11th fret: I've always thought of that as him copying every Clapton lick from the Bluesbreakers record, through Cream: Clapton would constantly go from the minor pentatonic "blues" box to the major pentatonic box, 3 frets lower. If you sooner or later added all those notes up, you sorta get that pattern. OTOH, your explanation fits closer to reason Ted Templeman convinced WB to sign VH: He'd heard the "Coltrane of rock guitar." Coltrane used all kinds of symmetrical ideas on tenor sax, and was influenced himself by Slonimsky, among others.
Love the Jeff Beck’s Guitar Shop poster!
Thanks for taking the time to reveal some of his tricks.
My fave Ed solo, among many, was the one in "So this is love?"
It swings so hard, but some of those phrases sound like a horn player,
especially the fast descending one.
Then you get those hard to duplicate emotive bends, at the end.
Also loved the solo in "Secrets."
1984 has a lot of fusion-esque moments, which i was sad to see he abandoned,
when 5150 came out.
He always played great, but i felt like 1984 was the last album where, solo-wise,
he was still innovating & seeking how far he could take the guitar.
Agree, Sammy was a better musician than DLR but ironically Eddie had a more free reign harmonically with Dave, it was more open, it was anything goes however wild. Sammy brought a very classic commercial songwriting framework but the white hot intensity of the solos on 1984 was never reached again.
@@lightningstrikes7314 With Roth they sounded like a live band on record. That's why I like the Roth VH better.
Your lessons are so well done, thanks for another great one!
The ear accepts all of the “wrong” notes as passing tones because off the 16th note triplets and the accents in the phrase. He was one of the first game changer guitar players to break through the technical limitations of common scales on the guitar. Ingwie did this alot as well
Great lesson as always.
Great tone man!!! Coming from an V-amp and a Fender... great tweaking on the V-amp.
Sweet!! Thanks for sharing this with us! Always enjoy watching you show us...
Awesome. Thanks for sharing the knowledge.
Love your lessons! Thank you!
This is an amazing video brother! Lots more like this please and thank you.
A very excellent lesson, Dave! Really dig your utilitarian presentation of these stellar EVH facets.
Fantastic lesson. Thank you!
Great lesson as always 👍✌
Thanks for all these awesome lessons Brother🤘
Amazing lesson!
Thank you for your humble approach and sharing with us!
Outstanding. Thank you!
What a fantastic lesson.
Man, thank you for your cool lessons and this lesson in particular. Awesome.
This was awesome - I never learned this kind of stuff when I played professionally, just found different shapes that I liked and made them work - its really cool to see I was tapping into something much bigger and didnt even know it! Thanks for explaining it, you did a great job!
Fascinating. I've seen hints of this in some vids where guitarists are showing some of Eddie's solos, but you take it apart in a way that makes it a lot easier to understand. Thank you for posting this video. PS love the looks and sound of that sunburst you've got.
GREAT lesson, Sir!!!
Great lesson mate and great insight!
Another great lesson 🍺’ski with great detail. Also thanks for the Cd’s digging both of them.🤘
David your lessons are an amazing treasure trove of information,thank you so much!
Brilliant! Thank you, David. This was a real eye (and ear and finger) opener 😃👏👏
First time watching one of your videos, this was awesome. You've just won yourself a sub man!
Great video. Note for youngsters, these patterns are symmetrical on the fretboard, but are not “symmetrical scales” in terms of music theory.
Awesome job!!
Good info. That’ll be a great lesson.
Another totally awesome lesson thank you brother!!!
Excellent content as always ...
another outstanding video!
my favorite video, Thank You for the EVH lesson.
Thanks for decrypting the Master! really interesting and well explained. I was looking for this video for a long time :) ! so cool
Awesome stuff. Your lessons are always so informative. Keep it coming man👍👍👍👍
One of the best teachers and players for sure.
Yess!! You have the best Van Halen videos!!!! Thanks!!
GREAT take on EVH; will hope to apply some of these lessons... thanks so much for posting Late Night 👏🏻🎯⚡️
Awesome playing as usual. Love the Rutles sign!
Great lesson! You always have a killer tone! I also love the 14/17/20 from bottom’s up.
This was super! Thanks a lot! My mind opened up and now I have work to do forever.👍
Great explanation man, it’s amazing how this guys did things and how hard it looks but once broken down doesn’t seem so intimidating
Thank you for your knowledge!!!! Great vids!!
.. good in depth insight David.
Can't get those lines to sound like the smooth legato that you are playing - especially lower on the neck where the stretch is longer. That is an exercise in itself. Definitely has that VH flavor.
Another great lesson and breakdown of Eddie's style and technique.
Awesome lesson!
Great Lesson David!!!🤠
You’re awesome !
Thank you for honoring Eddie the way that you do.
Thank for this great lesson.
Great stuff mate!
Your channel has excellent content. We appreciate your clarity in your lessons David. Thank you from Montreal, Canada!
David. Thank You for what you do ! Thank you for sharing your thoughts and knowledge, Your the best !
Cool lesson. Thanks