What Scale Was Eddie Van Halen Using?!

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    What are the secrets of Eddie Van Halen's 10 note mega scale pattern, aka the 124 box, aka the FrankenScale, AKA THE VAN SCALEN!?! He used this pattern all over songs like I'm the One, Jump, Spanish Fly, and so many others! What is it and how can we use it? Uncle Ben Eller here gonna show you!!!
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  • @BenEller
    @BenEller  11 місяців тому +74

    Thanks for learning about power of Eddie’s VAN SCALEN! Learn more powerful patterns in the Patreon only bonus video here: www.patreon.com/posts/83451817?

    • @satchrules101
      @satchrules101 11 місяців тому +2

      I disagree I think you are great with the Eddie swing feel ! Hard to hear the difference, In my opinion.

    • @satchrules101
      @satchrules101 11 місяців тому +1

      Absolutely another eye opening lesson !

    • @dmxdmx9743
      @dmxdmx9743 11 місяців тому +2

      Would love to see a breakdown of One foot out the door solo.

    • @goatman3057
      @goatman3057 11 місяців тому +1

      Your so sick at breaking this stuff down! Hey man I was wondering there’s an artist named Gran Hechicero out of Miami that I just can’t understand what the hell he is even doing! Might you do a video on him? Just dumbfounded by this dude, much love man! You rock!!

    • @goatman3057
      @goatman3057 11 місяців тому

      Oh forgot the name of the artist! Lol, it’s Gran Hechicero

  • @clemsontiger001
    @clemsontiger001 11 місяців тому +644

    Eddie called it "Falling down the stairs and landing on your feet". He was truly a genius.

    • @fawder1014
      @fawder1014 11 місяців тому +4

      Wasn't that a different lick where he would go down chromatically and land on a good note, like on the One foot out the door solo

    • @lw1391
      @lw1391 11 місяців тому +1

      For a minute I thought you were using that as an acrostic for tuning, like Eddie ate dynamite good bye Eddie (EADGBE). So I was thinking: "F D ... wait, WTF do I do now?!?"

    • @tinman5322
      @tinman5322 11 місяців тому +7

      I've read that he said that in several places and taken it deeply to heart. In live performance I can get away with horrid atrocities as long as the last note is RIGHT, and LOUDEST.

    • @richardalbury
      @richardalbury 11 місяців тому +4

      Yeah, his solos would seem to go out there and diverge from the song structure yet always return by the final note.

    • @mindofmatter071
      @mindofmatter071 11 місяців тому +1

      Thats it!! I remember that too!🤘🤘🤘

  • @ronm2099
    @ronm2099 11 місяців тому +208

    “if it sounds good, it is good” - EVH.

    • @jjmah7
      @jjmah7 10 місяців тому +7

      “Yeah, no shit.”
      -everyone he said that to

    • @jimmyboy131
      @jimmyboy131 5 місяців тому +1

      @@jjmah7He said that because too many people are gatekeepers, especially in the metal and rock communities. "That's not real music!" Etc, etc. So Eddie also said, "There's no such thing as bad music. There's just music you don't like." And we all needed to hear those things.

    • @jjmah7
      @jjmah7 5 місяців тому

      @@jimmyboy131 do you think after Eddie said that everyone ever just said “hm, you’re right! Ok!”? I love Eddie too man, but objectively - that’s the most obvious statement I’ve ever heard lol

    • @jimmyboy131
      @jimmyboy131 5 місяців тому

      @@jjmah7 I agree that it's obvious to you, me, and Eddie, and anyone else who truly understands that art is subjective. But I can't tell you how many people I've met who are music snobs and will readily call out a particular genre as "not real music" or "bad music". And the most guilty of all are metal heads. So that's probably who he was talking to, though I don't remember the context of his statements. Becaue to them it's not obvious.

    • @Kaddywompous
      @Kaddywompous 3 місяці тому

      I saw a clip of Louie Armstrong telling an interviewer the same thing.

  • @robarnold6998
    @robarnold6998 11 місяців тому +57

    I still cannot believe that we’re talking about Eddie in the past tense. It’s so very sad that he’s gone. Long live The King!!!

    • @WilliamSecrest-ps9gc
      @WilliamSecrest-ps9gc 3 місяці тому +2

      I feel the same about Randy Rhoades!

    • @VariusSep
      @VariusSep Місяць тому

      There is no King. Only great players.

    • @BrotherMax6
      @BrotherMax6 9 днів тому

      @@WilliamSecrest-ps9gc
      Died before my time. But the existing videos of his performances are enough to make anyone mourn that talent. Ridiculously incredible.

  • @trivialtrav
    @trivialtrav 11 місяців тому +72

    This is perfect. I'm great at playing wrong notes.

  • @paulthegeek
    @paulthegeek 11 місяців тому +67

    I remember interviews where Eddie talked about this concept of starting on a good note, flailing around a bit, and ending on a good note. he called it "falling down the stairs and landing on your feet."

  • @markhamblin8194
    @markhamblin8194 11 місяців тому +109

    Nigel Tufnel my favorite guitar genius plays the same type of scale but his has 11 notes, but he intentionally doesn't land on his feet. Pure genius 😂

    • @j_freed
      @j_freed 11 місяців тому +11

      I think Nigel Tufnel has landed on his head many times, that's part of his sound.

    • @shotgunndunn
      @shotgunndunn 6 місяців тому +2

      The sustain… of his feet, can you hear it?

    • @sholland42
      @sholland42 5 місяців тому +2

      I thought Nigel’s scale has 13 notes. 🤔

    • @metalheadrelic9873
      @metalheadrelic9873 5 місяців тому

      😂😂😂omfg! Been a while since I've seen that movie!

    • @richnez2721
      @richnez2721 5 місяців тому +1

      LOL...and bowing with the actual violin proves this genius. Well pointed out, good sir.

  • @Samurai78420
    @Samurai78420 11 місяців тому +89

    Brother...you're as good as it gets man. I been playing professionally for 37 years and I'm always learning. You've been one of the people that have gotten me out of so many ruts, due to your approach. Can't buy that kind of inspiration. All I can do is say thanks Brother

    • @BenEller
      @BenEller  11 місяців тому +6

      Thank you for watching, man!

    • @Samurai78420
      @Samurai78420 11 місяців тому +6

      @@BenEller Absolutely Brother. I can rip and hold my own, but you inspire me to work hard. A lot. It makes me feel like I wanna play and perform again. Best gift ever. Keep it up man. You're absolutely venomous on the instrument.

  • @donald-parker
    @donald-parker 11 місяців тому +88

    One of the things I aways noticed about Eddie was that his solos played very free and easy with tempo, scale, and other normal things, yet his rhythm playing was SO LOCKED IN. It almost sounds like 2 different people (that trade parts back and forth at lightning speed).

    • @omarpervaiz
      @omarpervaiz 11 місяців тому +12

      That's an amazing way to describe Master Eddie Van's playing.

    • @jamesstewart1794
      @jamesstewart1794 11 місяців тому +6

      💯

    • @Ronsonic
      @Ronsonic 11 місяців тому +5

      Most overlooked aspect of Eddie's playing. I mean, three-piece band and they have hit after hit. That alone tells you someone was playing great rhythm guitar.

    • @ronmorey3475
      @ronmorey3475 11 місяців тому +3

      Such a great observation. His playing was SO dynamic.

    • @totallykoolyeah
      @totallykoolyeah 11 місяців тому +1

      So I've been a jazz player all these years?? Ha
      Great stuff!

  • @jessepaul9774
    @jessepaul9774 11 місяців тому +39

    Love the van halen stuff. I miss him so much. I cried my eyes out when he died. Such a part of my childhood now gone. May he rest in peace.

    • @Seanomatic57
      @Seanomatic57 11 місяців тому +3

      Brother me too. The Rick Beato notification came through and I read it and I was like this has to be a bad joke. Horrible day.

    • @guitarista67
      @guitarista67 11 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, remember when he fed an entire arena of fans with some fishes and loaves?

    • @Scottocaster6668
      @Scottocaster6668 11 місяців тому +1

      Mine too brother.

    • @humanbeing2420
      @humanbeing2420 11 місяців тому +1

      I was bummed out about it too, but i consoled myself with the knowledge that he was almost certainly never going to release any new music again anyway.

    • @dylanhoward718
      @dylanhoward718 11 місяців тому +3

      ​​​@@guitarista67one time he brought my dead daughter back to life with a guitar solo

  • @sotirios6882
    @sotirios6882 11 місяців тому +13

    You're on a Roll dont stop now. More VH Wizardry. It lives n breathes in us all.

  • @davidperezgonzalez1839
    @davidperezgonzalez1839 11 місяців тому +39

    And the scale that he uses in "Hot for teacher" in the second tapping figure, just before the first minor seventh chord; its just a "two-one-(tap)four" symmetrical, and is very efective too, played fast. Its a Frankenscale because those are like pieces of scales glued together, like his guitar

    • @americanagothic7851
      @americanagothic7851 11 місяців тому +4

      Yes this is what he does, like you said, glues scales together. There were two scales he talked about in a guitar magazine, that he regularly used together but I don’t remember. He mentioned others that do it like Slash and Zakk and Dime

  • @ericjenkins2737
    @ericjenkins2737 11 місяців тому +8

    I thought I'd share a little Van Halen story. A buddy and I drove from Fort Walton Beach, FL to New Orleans to see Van Halen on the OU812 tour. When we got to the arena there were thousands already waiting at the entrance for this general admission show. We wandered around the arena for a bit and saw maybe 30-40 people gathered around back so we headed over thinking we might catch a glimpse of the band or something. After hanging out for a while with no one showing, someone opened a door and let the small group of us in before the thousands waiting at the other entrance. It was amazing...we walked into this giant empty arena and I plopped myself 2ft in front of where I knew Eddie would be, right up against the stage. I ended up getting one of his picks and then we were mugged down in the French Quarter after the show...unforgettable times.

  • @touchtennis
    @touchtennis 11 місяців тому +31

    I just love the passion you have for Lord Eddie while sharing his greatness with us in such a humble manner, considering you’re about a million miles closer to him than most!

  • @tmrogers87
    @tmrogers87 11 місяців тому +9

    Eddie Van Scalen is a sick portmanteau. Love it brother!

  • @Chris_Nouvelli
    @Chris_Nouvelli 11 місяців тому +5

    “Only the Sith deals in absolutes” Damnit, I love this channel. Bravo, Uncle Ben.

  • @StephGV2
    @StephGV2 11 місяців тому +20

    Good class. When I was young, Van Halen's first album was just released and I played "I'm the One" on record for my music theory teacher and he called it "Pure noise. Nothing but garbage." Your videos like this one have ignited an interest in music theory I haven't had in decades.

    • @humanbeing2420
      @humanbeing2420 11 місяців тому +1

      He might have been more impressed with (or less harshly critical of) something like "Women in Love" from the second album, with that beautiful, melodically complex tap-harmonic intro.

    • @leighhunt6331
      @leighhunt6331 11 місяців тому

      That's why we need a purge, including literal bloodshed of academia.

  • @juanmastrangelo4257
    @juanmastrangelo4257 11 місяців тому +7

    Crazy that that random pattern is a fusion of blues and major scales! Nice

  • @6Stringers
    @6Stringers 11 місяців тому +30

    Eddie was the king at knowing how to break the 'rules' effectively

    • @silverjaw138
      @silverjaw138 11 місяців тому +1

      It’s because Eddie’s music knowledge was as deep as it gets.
      He didn’t just know theory, he wielded theory in real time and applied jazz concepts without coming off as a jazz player.

  • @CMFL77
    @CMFL77 11 місяців тому +18

    Ive been around since the first "This is why you suck" episode dropped...so however many years that is lol. This lesson/breakdown is EXACTLY why I don't think Ive missed an upload since. Ive learned more from you than anything else. You have a perfect teaching style and your passion for what you cover definitely shows. I have almost no music theory understanding but the way you lay it out makes perfect sense and that has definitely improved my playing. Almost 500k too, you deserve every bit of recognition for your hard work and sticking out the tough times. Thanks Uncle B!

    • @BenEller
      @BenEller  11 місяців тому +3

      Many thanks, dude!

  • @48mastadon
    @48mastadon 11 місяців тому +18

    Your description of jazz solos is so spot on.

    • @alteroccatv
      @alteroccatv 11 місяців тому +2

      Not a description: the definition of!!!

    • @mancuniancandidatem
      @mancuniancandidatem 11 місяців тому

      The difference being, that really good jazz musicians have studied the "bullshit" notes in-between the tonal centers so they can play and spontaneously compose "bullshit" notes on the spot. They are not winging it, or using shapes and patterns on their instrument.

    • @alteroccatv
      @alteroccatv 11 місяців тому +1

      @@mancuniancandidatem I've worte and published a guitar book, studied Schönberg, functional harmony and modern orchestra arrangement at college for 3 years and I can assure you that no amount of good theory, practice and studying can replace a good pair of ears. Shapes and patterns are only useful for mastering the mechanics of the instrument indeed, but I can assure you that if one spend countless hours doing that just to gain dexterity and freedom of movement on the fingerboard, if one has taste and good (listening) ears, one can sound like a seasoned pro without much music theory. In essence, from 100 bpm up, as long as one plays 1/8 notes in group of 4 and does not resolve on the 4th unless the chord is the dominant one, one can get away with anything i.e. is "correct" from a music theory point of view. Yet, it can still sound s**t if the player has no taste. I could go on as you can imaging... 😄

    • @mancuniancandidatem
      @mancuniancandidatem 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@alteroccatv I agree. Without a good ear and good musical taste, theory alone will not make a good musician. I think what I was just trying to say is, the great jazz musicians have all of those attributes.

    • @alteroccatv
      @alteroccatv 11 місяців тому

      @@mancuniancandidatem mmmhhh.... sort of yes 😜 as a lawyer (now, in my finally grown-up job lol!) I can't forget your words... "that really good jazz musicians have studied the "bullshit" notes" so not what you were trying to say after all.... you were just defending jazz musicians who study hard for decades, I get that and respect that too a lot; yet "studying" the bs notes is by no means a prerequisite. Anyway, nice bantering with you. Rock & Peace bro 🤟🤟

  • @jeddak
    @jeddak 11 місяців тому +79

    15:45 This also describes the thrill we get listening to Jimmy Page. He always sounds like he's about to crash and burn, but he manages to somehow remain balanced on that high wire.

    • @23dvs
      @23dvs 11 місяців тому +9

      I totally agree!! Jimmy Page was like that as well…tumbling down the stairs & landing on his feet

    • @SilverSurfer5150
      @SilverSurfer5150 11 місяців тому +7

      Eddie Van Halen on Jimmy Page: “He's very sloppy. He plays like he's got a broken hand and he's two years old. But if you put out a good album and play like a two-year-old live. What's the purpose?”
      Jimmy Page on EVH: “He was the real deal: he pioneered a dazzling technique on guitar with taste and panache that I felt always placed him above his imitators.”

    • @Jonathan_Doe_
      @Jonathan_Doe_ 11 місяців тому +2

      Not always. Some of the later live gigs where he went a bit too far on the smack were atrocious. There’s only bootlegs of those shows though. The live stuff they put out officially was from the nights where they were on form.

    • @ryanlusby569
      @ryanlusby569 11 місяців тому +2

      @@Jonathan_Doe_ He was barely living then, really sad to watch post 75' Zeppelin shows.

    • @bobjones2041
      @bobjones2041 11 місяців тому +5

      ​@@Jonathan_Doe_ I'm pretty sure had Ed attempted to play anything like "Dazed and Confused live" for 28 minutes I would have left to check out the concession stands after ten minutes because I would have already heard Ed's bag of tricks by then, the rest would have been repetition

  • @blucheer8743
    @blucheer8743 11 місяців тому +9

    Best guitar channel hands down! Whether you’re beginning or just needing a jump start it’s all here in one place! You’re the best Ben!

  • @michaeldineenSG2018
    @michaeldineenSG2018 11 місяців тому +6

    Ben that intro was vicious. You play him so well.

  • @ThePersistentRumor
    @ThePersistentRumor 5 місяців тому +4

    I was 14 when the first album was released. 45 years later, I'm still amazed. :-D

  • @Buddhabellie
    @Buddhabellie 11 місяців тому +1

    Hey auncle Ben, Your great aunt Lauren here....oh I love this! I live that I am actually understanding everything......😊

  • @xidnixmix
    @xidnixmix 11 місяців тому +7

    I love the Andretti-Dukes Of H comparison. Totally gives a kind of new perspective on how EVH's different and unique from other shredders.

  • @mikeomaly
    @mikeomaly 11 місяців тому +7

    Sick axe brother Ben!

  • @tasteapiana
    @tasteapiana 11 місяців тому +8

    I got the 1984 songbook in 1985 (iirc) just to help me break down what he was doing (because things weren't adding up) and it totally f'd my brain up. I had played violin from 1978-1983 (age 4-10), switched to guitar and then got that transcription of Van Halen songs. After working through that book I just assumed, if Ed could do that, that guitarists in general were given some kind of pass when it came to playing ''in key''. Later it dawned on me that he was a self taught guitarist who had faked his way through piano lessons (his admission, his own words, not my assumption) and that he was just blowing smoke, knew very little about music theory, and could get by with faking it because he had a great feel for / sense of how to compose a song NOT because he actually knew what he was doing (because he didn't). If Eddie had not had a great ear, meaning an above average sense of what is musically cool, what SOUNDS good, he would never have become what he became. He would have been that loser dude that others around him called tone deaf and tacky. Luckily, he loved music in general and had a way above average ear for what not only could be done but what should be done which allowed him the wiggle room to do all kinds of things that were never meant to be done. One can only speculate on what he would have done had he ever been sober.

    • @jamesragsdale8202
      @jamesragsdale8202 7 місяців тому +1

      Edward said he never wrote anything sober. So like it or not his creativity was freed up by alcohol and drugs and without them he wouldn't have put out anything of note.

    • @wootube
      @wootube 7 місяців тому

      @@jamesragsdale8202Ed was a hell of a musician, but he also said questionable things. He attributed his cancer to holding metal picks in his mouth, never even acknowledging the fact that he smoked almost his entire life. (He had tongue and lung cancer)
      It would certainly be convenient for an alcoholic like him to also attribute his creativity to being on the sauce.

    • @jamesragsdale8202
      @jamesragsdale8202 7 місяців тому

      @@wootube yeah true about the metal pics and other nonsense he spoke but 70s music and its creativity was certainly birthed from copious amounts of drugs. He showed up at Quincy Jones' studio with a six-pack so I think he was telling the truth on creating under the influence.

  • @Taylor___
    @Taylor___ 11 місяців тому +1

    That tone at the start is so accurate to Eruption!!!

  • @shannonjones3714
    @shannonjones3714 11 місяців тому

    Thanks for sorting this out and explaining it so well!

  • @sixslinger9951
    @sixslinger9951 11 місяців тому +20

    when I first heard Eruption blasting out of a friend's window in the Summer of 78 , I thought it was an alien playing. To witness Eddie's rise and influence on several generations, even lasting into the current gen, speaks volumes how important he was and still is. I saw him the next Summer in 79 on their first headlining tour and it changed my life. Thanks for keeping the magic of Eddie alive.

    • @hamjohn8737
      @hamjohn8737 11 місяців тому +1

      Yep, Summer of '78.....I clearly remember Billy Christy in a powder blue VW Bug blasting that while cruising by....I immediately wanted to hear more. BeeGees and Donna Summer where all over the radio at that point

    • @moeb4348
      @moeb4348 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@hamjohn8737 Ed saved us all from a very painful death of never ending Disco music!

  • @Stephen_M.
    @Stephen_M. 11 місяців тому +11

    I must say Ben, this is one of the best, most informative video's I've seen in quite some time.
    I had always known that phrasing should end on "good" notes, but I had always considered the "good" notes as the scale root. Simply pointing out that resolving on any of the root chord tones works, illuminated a huge 500 watt bulb for me.
    Thank You!

  • @billwarkentin3630
    @billwarkentin3630 11 місяців тому +2

    That was so informative and interesting, Ben! Thank-you!!

  • @Oscar-Racso
    @Oscar-Racso 11 місяців тому +1

    The way I see it is every note sounds good in context/adds flavour 😂

  • @larryblumerjr
    @larryblumerjr 11 місяців тому +16

    This is a really interesting teardown. I propose a slightly different characterization of why it works. It is a single symmetrical scale which combines groups of both inside and outside tonalities. So, the 4th and 5th strings are all inside, while the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd strings are slightly outside. EVH was more masterful than just starting and ending on inside notes. He could linger on 4-5 for safe inside lines, then ascend to 1-3 to play a bit outside. He could linger some more or speed through to get the desired amount of dissonance. But, as you say, always land on an inside note! Trained musicians don't generally think about scales in this way, but EVH had an unusual homegrown approach and unreal musical instincts.

    • @jimmyboy131
      @jimmyboy131 5 місяців тому

      It helped that he didn't have formal guitar training, and that he learned piano by ear, not by studying sheet music. So all of what he produced was intuitive, by the seat of the pants. I don't think he was ever meant to do music in any traditional way; he was a Qui-Gon style Jedi who told "the Code" to jump off a cliff.

    • @jonnygardiner4073
      @jonnygardiner4073 4 місяці тому

      Brilliant

    • @rhllnm
      @rhllnm 4 місяці тому

      I see a mixolydian scale on 4-5 and a blues scale on 3-1 (mixing major and minor pentatonics) but with a major 7th to bring it home to A Major - ?

  • @the_glove
    @the_glove 11 місяців тому +4

    You’ve basically described jazz enclosures, how we blast through changes if the changes are fast (via ignoring II and just thinking V-I) it is stressful when your guitar is perfectly clean . It’s fun !

  • @shanerose5348
    @shanerose5348 11 місяців тому +1

    The dukes of hazzard analogy was just gold!! Subbed.

  • @Stephen_M.
    @Stephen_M. 11 місяців тому +2

    "And I hate to tell them, but they won't be getting it back" Ha HA Ha!!🤣🤣🤣
    Best endorsement EVER!

  • @curtvona4891
    @curtvona4891 11 місяців тому +3

    Man, that sounds killer! Well done, Unkie Ben.

  • @jeffhubbard9277
    @jeffhubbard9277 11 місяців тому +8

    This is absolutely incredible. Wow! A buddy of mine used to talk about how Eddie sounded completely different from everyone else and wondered what the heck scale he used. I agreed that Eddie’s sound was very unique, but wasn’t able to pinpoint why he sounded so different. Anytime I’ve sat down and learned any of his solos I’ve basically thought two things.. 1.-“what the heck is he doing here?” (Scratches head) And 2.-“but this sounds so freaking sick!!” Lol. Thanks a lot Ben for sitting down and solving this great guitar mystery for us all. 🤘

  • @RJ-lf8ex
    @RJ-lf8ex 11 місяців тому +2

    Great job Ben! Extremely detailed and enlightening!!

  • @chucksaeger7500
    @chucksaeger7500 7 місяців тому

    Your delivery is fantastic and your playing is second to none. Truly inspirational!
    Thanks a bunch!

  • @absea7918
    @absea7918 11 місяців тому +9

    Great video! I think Eddie learned a bit about tension from Jimmy Page. The Heartbreaker solo is a good example of that - where your convinced he's about to crash and burn but he pulls out of it. Page was a studio musician, so could play smooth, but kept the edges rough for his solos. EVH was much more fleet, and fluid, but did create tension through his note choices.

  • @BotsWeekendCovers
    @BotsWeekendCovers 11 місяців тому +6

    You really are an amazing player man!!!!! Love watching your videos.

  • @martynspooner5822
    @martynspooner5822 11 місяців тому +1

    How you even work this all out amazes me but I am so glad you can and then share it. Thanks and respect.

  • @grenadestudios5171
    @grenadestudios5171 11 місяців тому +1

    Hey Ben. Awesome vid Bro. Thanks for all the years of amazing content. Keep on Rockin 👍👍🤘🤘

  • @jerk_store
    @jerk_store 11 місяців тому +3

    The Duke boys....great reference. And my gosh, that guitar and the tone. That Eventide stereo pitch shifting thing, that gives the tone that chorusing effect, is amazing. Love it.

  • @motherbandofficial
    @motherbandofficial 11 місяців тому +9

    3:48 Hands down the best summarized explanation of Jazz that I‘ve ever heard a teacher give

    • @gimmee99
      @gimmee99 9 місяців тому

      Bingo. Laughed at loud at this part myself !!!

  • @taossmith85
    @taossmith85 11 місяців тому +2

    Great episode! More Van Halen is always appreciated!

  • @jasonk5150
    @jasonk5150 11 місяців тому +9

    Your insight on him leaving out the two dark intervals and your dukes of hazard analogy are pure gold. Thank you Ben!!!

  • @MindsEyeVisualGuitarMethods
    @MindsEyeVisualGuitarMethods 5 місяців тому

    Dude, knocked it out of the park with this one!.
    Absolutely some information I've been wondering about for years.

  • @jpgtr84
    @jpgtr84 11 місяців тому +4

    Great video as always! It's cool to think that Dimebag used a similar pattern to this to great effect Ala Cowboys From Hell.

  • @canyoncarver
    @canyoncarver 11 місяців тому +3

    I like how you rationalize or exemplify this concept. It's something that I was aware of as a listener, even before I got into playing guitar. I could sing these notes in my head and identify the landing spots in Van Halen songs. I knew his particular sound or articulation was something unique, with a particular 'flavor' or signature. Thanks again for your great work in explaining this. Rock on, Uncle Ben!

  • @wmot206
    @wmot206 11 місяців тому +1

    Ben, you're on "On Fire" with these recent EVH posts. Keep it up!

  • @diggylake123
    @diggylake123 11 місяців тому

    Great demonstration! Bravo👏

  • @truckercowboyed2638
    @truckercowboyed2638 11 місяців тому +3

    It always felt chaotic and random what he was playing, but also fit the song, he knew how to get the emotion out of what he was wanting us to feel...

  • @chrisangela
    @chrisangela 11 місяців тому +7

    Excellent Ben, I've always wondered how that scale always seem to just work out...kind of like falling and landing on your feet! I did nearly spit out my coffee though at the 3:57 mark, that was well put:-) Cheers!

  • @powerbylightfutureisnow1579
    @powerbylightfutureisnow1579 11 місяців тому

    You are so fun to watch and I always learn something new !😊

  • @jteichma
    @jteichma 10 місяців тому

    That was an awesome lesson😊 Ben!

  • @TinkMcGathy
    @TinkMcGathy 11 місяців тому +10

    Dude… how did you get so awesome at explaining stuff.

    • @BenEller
      @BenEller  11 місяців тому +1

      Thanks ;)

  • @LocrianDorian
    @LocrianDorian 11 місяців тому +3

    This "scale" really changed my mindset when it comes to fast licks. Before trying to learn Van Halen, I was always locked into scales and general music theory concepts, and that's all great, but when we're talking about shredding, sometimes it doesn't even matter what notes you are playing as long as it's clean, sits in the pocket and starts and ends on notes that sound right, the in between notes are less important. If anything, the "chromatic" notes that appear in the "scale" give it more flavour and character. Just from the nature of its fingering, it's all about convenience, yet that convenience also makes it convincing in fast runs.

  • @triclone123
    @triclone123 11 місяців тому +1

    Fantastic analysis! Best! Thanks for sharing!

  • @mindofmatter071
    @mindofmatter071 11 місяців тому +1

    Love this...I've been stuck on dissecting EVH live since you're last EVH video....1982 in Baltimore is a good one!
    Thanks again Uncle Ben!

  • @ArtbyPaulPetro
    @ArtbyPaulPetro 11 місяців тому +7

    that mix of notes is something Steve Morse does ALL the time when playing in Mixolydian or Dorian (adding the min 3, flat 5, nat 7 to Mix, or adding maj 3, flat 5, nat 7 to Dorian as passing tones) but NOT in the pattern that Eddie used which of course makes them sound completely different from one another but always that same concept start on a good note and end on a good note! great lesson Uncle Ben!

  • @RB-oc7ti
    @RB-oc7ti 11 місяців тому +3

    Loved this Ben! I was watching Mark Tremonti being interviewed by Sweetwater music and he referenced you as a great guy to chat guitar theory with. Something about a boat gig / vacation, where he was shooting the breeze with you about guitars and his wife looked at him like, ‘are you going to spend some time with me, or talk guitar all night?’ … ‘so we talked guitar all night…’ LOL!
    His high praise of you Brought me here👍
    (Love to watch some Tremonti theory btw…)

  • @byronjobe2306
    @byronjobe2306 11 місяців тому

    Awesome job, great teaching approach. So well done.

  • @metalrockstarizer89
    @metalrockstarizer89 11 місяців тому +2

    That intro was golden. Flawless work.

  • @scottnagy3222
    @scottnagy3222 11 місяців тому +7

    Hey Nephew Ben! Women And Children First was on the racks and my buddy told me a few years ago at that point that VH blew KISS off the stage. I was late to the party but I was going to catch up. Years spent reading the mag interviews taught me how much music was in their house. I don't remember how much of this I got from you, but the boys would sit in at dad's jazz nights while the band was on break. You know pop wouldn't let them out there if they didn't swing! Alex and Eddie brought that swingy dancy vibe to VH and I think you're the first to point out to me it was there all the time. Eddie swings like a mfer #bringbackswing

  • @thomasd9237
    @thomasd9237 11 місяців тому +3

    👍👍 pretty great info. Thank you for posting this.
    I have a messed up hand and oddly the 1-2-4 is what use a lot. I don't sound like that because I never actually knew how to use it.
    I shall try this ☺️

  • @ENGL555
    @ENGL555 11 місяців тому

    So well done. Thank you for this.

  • @robmoore136
    @robmoore136 11 місяців тому

    Awesome Ben, thank you for shedding light on some of Edward's most epic techniques!

  • @8KilgoreTrout4
    @8KilgoreTrout4 11 місяців тому +3

    Gooooooood morning my dudes! That guitar instantly pleased my eyes! Never heard of em!

  • @thefrogking481
    @thefrogking481 11 місяців тому +4

    Lots of comments about the guitar and i agree, its a nice looking piece.
    Would like to know more about the specs.

  • @juanshelton9032
    @juanshelton9032 5 місяців тому

    Really enjoyed your delivery n great understanding…n easy to see guitar examples

  • @RizoftheDead
    @RizoftheDead 11 місяців тому +2

    Just casually throwing out the "Only Siths deal in absolutes" quote like true nerd, heck yeah.

  • @pierrebidondo4095
    @pierrebidondo4095 11 місяців тому +3

    "Embrace the Chaos" I love it👍
    Ritchie Blackmore was great at using "Dicey Notes" in his solos.
    Example: the end of his solo in "Child in Time" off of the "Made in Japan" live album

  • @jcrane721
    @jcrane721 11 місяців тому +4

    loved the Duke of Hazard reference! Now I can't stop thinking about Waylon Jennings doing a voice over in the middle of one of Eddies solos. "Looks like ol' Ed's more twisted up than a barrel of snakes, lets see if he makes it out when we return"

    • @BenEller
      @BenEller  11 місяців тому

      Hahaha

    • @BenEller
      @BenEller  11 місяців тому +1

      Next up: the power of Van Waylon

  • @FuckYoutubeCensorship
    @FuckYoutubeCensorship 11 місяців тому +6

    VINNIE MOORE'S PICKING TECHNIQUE.
    Dead ass dude is the literal benchmark of perfection and everyone who came after him can only ever be described as "sounds as good as Vinnie Moore"

  • @mazklassa9338
    @mazklassa9338 11 місяців тому

    Thank you for these generous lessons Ben!

  • @LiveLaughJordan-oi6tg
    @LiveLaughJordan-oi6tg 6 місяців тому

    Love your videos, Ben!

  • @stewartedrich1670
    @stewartedrich1670 11 місяців тому +3

    This FrankenScale was very useful to play the Eddie style but not necessarily have to copy something.
    I never thought to play a scale that has all those notes but not in order.

  • @gregc8483
    @gregc8483 11 місяців тому +3

    This is an amazing breakdown!
    I was just wondering if there is another legendary artist who uses "their own scale" ?

  • @jross68052
    @jross68052 11 місяців тому +1

    Such a cool video. I always loved those riffs and thought they sounded amazing

  • @thedyergramstudio8354
    @thedyergramstudio8354 11 місяців тому

    Brilliant video mate, just awesome ❤

  • @JohnSpo
    @JohnSpo 11 місяців тому +13

    I remember learning VH songs from my TAB books and seeing these runs and getting very confused - based on the little bit of music theory that I knew at the time - as to how someone like Eddie would be playing "wrong" notes in a scale. Eddie's number one motto was "if it sounds good, then it is good." and I guess in the world of creating and playing music that really is the only rule you need to know.

    • @treblemaker69
      @treblemaker69 11 місяців тому +2

      I had a similar experience. I thought Van Halen licks were beyond me but played bass in a band for a while where the guitar player did Eruption every show. So I finally sat down to learn it--in my late 40s at the time--and as I looked at tabs for that and other tunes, I noticed the same thing...there are a lot of just repeating patterns that go in and out of the key! And the beauty of that approach is, as Ben said so well in the video, that it has the feel and shape of a scale, but since it's not a scale, it automatically sounds more musical. Very inspiring!

    • @Randor10
      @Randor10 10 місяців тому

      My bass teacher used to say exactly that. If it sounds good, it is good.

  • @juanpablomarin5463
    @juanpablomarin5463 11 місяців тому +4

    as simple as that....Eddie Van is the Greatest ever❤🎵🎶

  • @eigengrau1
    @eigengrau1 11 місяців тому

    I love the channel and admire Uncle Ben, his style, his skill and his personality! Top-Tier-Human.
    Always motivates and pushes me; Thanks a lot or "1000 Dank" as we would say in Germany.

  • @bobbymauro3721
    @bobbymauro3721 11 місяців тому +2

    Amazing tutorial dude! Been a VH for all of my life and was always influenced by his rhythm which was incomparable! This was an incredible in depth deep dive into the VH musical lore! Well done and thank you!!

  • @allboutthemojo
    @allboutthemojo 11 місяців тому +10

    Love the EVH lessons. Thank you 🙏
    Although nobody can swing it like Eddie, there is a guy , youtube channel Jacob Deraps ? I think you might have seen his channel. He plays the EVH stuff better than anyone I've heard , even the swing. IMO

    • @takeuchitb007
      @takeuchitb007 11 місяців тому

      You're right about Deraps. Guy is ridiculous good.. there's a video he posted recently called something like 14 mins of Van Halen riffs.. he does Hang em High about half way through and he nails that insane high speed swing to the riff

    • @allboutthemojo
      @allboutthemojo 11 місяців тому +1

      @Mr Pete's Cycle Works looks like he's been playing the EVH stuff for a long time because he makes it look like a walk in the park . He's also singing entire DLR and Sammy's parts while playing. Insanity!

  • @chuckhalen9543
    @chuckhalen9543 11 місяців тому +3

    Ben, thank you. You sir, are an extremely talented player, but you're even a more tremendous teacher, esp when it comes to the complexity that is EVH theory. You have an incredible teaching ability that makes this SO F'N ENJOYABLE. Honored to see a fan of EVH, remembering his greatness, but also explaining what was going on in EVH's head so the rest of us players get some clarity about it. You have a gift my man. Keep on teaching. You and Doug Steele are my, "Go to Guys" when it comes to all things EVH. And btw, RIP to Tina Turner. Another legend in music that left an incredible legacy and mark in music.

    • @BenEller
      @BenEller  11 місяців тому

      Thank you so much!

  • @100chuckjones
    @100chuckjones 11 місяців тому

    One of your best vid's Benny. The music theory portion (and breakdowns) was really good.

  • @smoothpicker
    @smoothpicker 11 місяців тому

    Thanks uncle Ben for always teaching us something useful if not unusual. I always learn something new from your tutorials! You rock!

  • @kennopalus
    @kennopalus 11 місяців тому +5

    Eddie didn't know scales , he knew shapes , they didn't always fit musically but, they sure sounded cool .

  • @EricMakingWaves
    @EricMakingWaves 11 місяців тому +5

    His timing and rhythm are what help sell all the crazy chromaticism. Eddie was an Allan Holdsworth fan, so this stuff sorta makes sense when you have that in mind.

  • @timfatout5339
    @timfatout5339 28 днів тому

    This was an interesting one. Your comfort with the transition of musical knowledge to mechanical action is impressive.

  • @chops9779
    @chops9779 11 місяців тому

    best lesson on eddies note choices - thanks 👍🎸

  • @clutch2827
    @clutch2827 11 місяців тому +3

    I always thought his solos were very unstructured but they sounded right.

  • @joeymartinn1
    @joeymartinn1 11 місяців тому +4

    For Diatonic perfection see RR, the Eddie scale is not a scale. To play like Eddie, start on the root, close your eyes and pay anything, literally, anything. Once you have completed playing whatever, open eyes and hit the root again. There is your "Eddie Scale".

    • @jeddak
      @jeddak 11 місяців тому

      Randy snuck some weird notes in there, too, at times. But it wasn't jazzy like EVH. More "darkly modal".

  • @ScottBrownMusic
    @ScottBrownMusic 10 місяців тому

    Best video I’ve seen in awhile. I have been on this journey with you many years. Always dug it. This is even more better. The equipment is insane. Respect… ps I suck more less now. Thx