There are two issues confused here: 1. does acupuncture work and if so how? - that's a question of medical science. 2. is there anything morally wrong in terms of partaking in another religion by using that method - only that is a question for which the Cardinal is competent!
Thanks navarroportriple! I'm glad to know another Catholic on here agrees with me about that. I once knew a guy that didn't like narnia or lord of the rings which I both love but he was a baptist, didn't realize some catholics felt the same about that until I saw some comments from them on youtube.
@chipk77 Please refer to the Vatican’s website, or a website directly answering to the Vatican, such as that of the USCCB. Though chemotherapy has many negatives, no less, it is indeed a statistically effective treatment for cancer. (Keep in mind there is also the issue of morality. E.g., an abortion procedure can be both safe and effective, but it’s the morality the Catholic Church takes issue with.) Again, because it is ineffective, acupuncture is considered unacceptable.
2)...A white witch taps into the exact same source as a black witch. Familiar spirits (mediums) are the same. It is written to stay away from familiar spirits..ie..those who one recognises...ie.. aunt, uncle ect. If you could only see WHAT was standing behind the faces of those familiar spirits!!
I have no problem with Harry Potter for a couple reasons. One, the kids in Harry Potter are BORN with their magic abilities, so it's like a gift from God, it's not like ordinary people performing black magic. Two, in Harry Potter they celebrate the holiday Christmas. Three, Harry Potter has a godfather, so he was baptized. And 4, there's a lot of Christian symbolism in it. I'll admit though, parents should point out to kids that it's just a fantasy and real witchcraft is bad.
@sharons813 In Harry Potter, you would know if you've read them, that the good wizards don't "tap into" any kind of source--it is made very clear that the only ones who "tap into" anything are the evil wizards.
So is the argument that there is not facts backing this form of medicine and so it should not be used? It seems like certain forms of traditional home remedies wood be exception but sticking needles into your veins seems a bit more risky as far as whether it causes neurological problems or not.
@sharons813 Just a minor point... Umm How do I put this? There's no such thing as witches therefore there's no such thing as witchcraft. Condeming Harry Potter is like condeming Superman because he's not of Adam... Isn't it?
@JudeCJV I agree, it's like Narnia or Lord of the Rings, there are good magicians and bad magicians, but it makes a clear distinction between the two. There is a lot of Christian symbolism, I've read part of a book called "Looking for God in Harry Potter" that so far does a good job explaining the Christian symbolism and making a distinction that it is fantasy just like Narnia or LOTR(which are both very Christian stories).
@chipk77 The link doesn't work (which is exactly why I don't like to include such things in comments). I'd love to read the article but please provide me with the exact title. I fully understand acupuncture - understand that it's basically useless, and goes against Catholic medical care directives.
@chipk77 I'm sorry but you are incorrect, and I suggest you do some further study on acupuncture as it relates to medical science. When you do you will learn it is indeed part of something called New Age Medicine - the medical arm of the New Age belief movement. You will also learn that it is not based on medical science. BTW: The items I cited is not simply things I alone came up with.
This cardinal seems misinformed about acupuncture. Study after study shows there’s no proof it’s effective. Also, his use of the word "cure” is off base. Even the alternative medicine community is hesitant about using that word. The Catholic Church does seem to lack specific guidelines about whether or not it accepts acupuncture. However, it does take a stand against new age medicine. “…the way of many, some, in Asia….” Well, so, that doesn't mean acupuncture is an acceptable practice.
There are two issues confused here:
1. does acupuncture work and if so how? - that's a question of medical science.
2. is there anything morally wrong in terms of partaking in another religion by using that method - only that is a question for which the Cardinal is competent!
Thanks navarroportriple! I'm glad to know another Catholic on here agrees with me about that. I once knew a guy that didn't like narnia or lord of the rings which I both love but he was a baptist, didn't realize some catholics felt the same about that until I saw some comments from them on youtube.
@chipk77 Please refer to the Vatican’s website, or a website directly answering to the Vatican, such as that of the USCCB.
Though chemotherapy has many negatives, no less, it is indeed a statistically effective treatment for cancer.
(Keep in mind there is also the issue of morality. E.g., an abortion procedure can be both safe and effective, but it’s the morality the Catholic Church takes issue with.)
Again, because it is ineffective, acupuncture is considered unacceptable.
2)...A white witch taps into the exact same source as a black witch. Familiar spirits (mediums) are the same. It is written to stay away from familiar spirits..ie..those who one recognises...ie.. aunt, uncle ect.
If you could only see WHAT was standing behind the faces of those familiar spirits!!
I have no problem with Harry Potter for a couple reasons. One, the kids in Harry Potter are BORN with their magic abilities, so it's like a gift from God, it's not like ordinary people performing black magic. Two, in Harry Potter they celebrate the holiday Christmas. Three, Harry Potter has a godfather, so he was baptized. And 4, there's a lot of Christian symbolism in it. I'll admit though, parents should point out to kids that it's just a fantasy and real witchcraft is bad.
@sharons813 In Harry Potter, you would know if you've read them, that the good wizards don't "tap into" any kind of source--it is made very clear that the only ones who "tap into" anything are the evil wizards.
So is the argument that there is not facts backing this form of medicine and so it should not be used? It seems like certain forms of traditional home remedies wood be exception but sticking needles into your veins seems a bit more risky as far as whether it causes neurological problems or not.
@loggats What did I say that you think is false?
@sharons813
Just a minor point... Umm How do I put this?
There's no such thing as witches therefore there's no such thing as witchcraft.
Condeming Harry Potter is like condeming Superman because he's not of Adam... Isn't it?
@JudeCJV I agree, it's like Narnia or Lord of the Rings, there are good magicians and bad magicians, but it makes a clear distinction between the two. There is a lot of Christian symbolism, I've read part of a book called "Looking for God in Harry Potter" that so far does a good job explaining the Christian symbolism and making a distinction that it is fantasy just like Narnia or LOTR(which are both very Christian stories).
@chipk77 Please excuse my several attempts to repost my comment that kept getting sliced at the beginning.
@chipk77 The link doesn't work (which is exactly why I don't like to include such things in comments). I'd love to read the article but please provide me with the exact title.
I fully understand acupuncture - understand that it's basically useless, and goes against Catholic medical care directives.
@chipk77 I'm sorry but you are incorrect, and I suggest you do some further study on acupuncture as it relates to medical science. When you do you will learn it is indeed part of something called New Age Medicine - the medical arm of the New Age belief movement. You will also learn that it is not based on medical science.
BTW: The items I cited is not simply things I alone came up with.
This cardinal seems misinformed about acupuncture. Study after study shows there’s no proof it’s effective. Also, his use of the word "cure” is off base. Even the alternative medicine community is hesitant about using that word.
The Catholic Church does seem to lack specific guidelines about whether or not it accepts acupuncture. However, it does take a stand against new age medicine.
“…the way of many, some, in Asia….” Well, so, that doesn't mean acupuncture is an acceptable practice.
Wrong on both Cardinal. Fr Armorth clearly states the problem with Potter & not knowing about acupuncture - bloomin' 'eck!?