Ever since I got into bikes as a kid in the early 90’s DH bikes have always been the ultimate in looks, performance and just dam coolness! Every kid in the UK would’ve killed to have an early DH steed like Peaty or Warner.
downhill bike is the bike that everyone needs, but they probably won't use it if they are uphill nerds. I bought DH bike a month ago as my main bike, and I will never regret it!
What "makes them so specialist from everything else in the market" is that you can only ride them with an uplift 😀 which is ok if thats your preference!
i'm piecing together a nukeproof dissent at the moment, & i'm soooo stoked on getting it finished before the local park opens up! it will be my first time riding one
it’s cool that you mentioned the difference in bike setup from a pro VS an amateur. It’s like an F1 car. They are built and designed to function at race pace. Anything slower and they don’t work well.
I don't necessarily agree, for instance, they're used in fest series, rampage, for whip offs, and much other use that doesn't imply going as fast as possible. It depends mainly on how your bike is set up (suspension, tire pressure, position, etc...)
I just installed a downhill Zee brake on my trail bike in the front replacing a basic 2 piston brake. My front wheel is finally fully capable of instantly locking up, like the bike now has the power to stop immediately, I love it.
@@bananasstuff3344 Power is nothing without modulation. I would sacrifice some power for better modulation, it's difficult not to lock up your wheels with Shimano brakes when bouncing up all over the place on a DH track. Also, consistency is a big factor.
@@prokopsteiner3900 yup, very true. I would always prefer modulation too. I have tried some shimano brakes, but only the lower end ones so I don't want to make any blanket statements about the modulation of their brakes, although I definitely found it poor.
I have a downhill bike, it is a 1999 Saracen team Rush that I built up and put a Sram 1 x 10 drivetrain on, with modern components, I have Michelin and Tioga DH tires from the early 2000's on it that are brand new and no signs of wear that were hung up in my garage
Never owned one. I know I guy who works in Moab in the summer. His “xc” bike in the early 00s was a DH bike with around 200mm travel and was like 40lbs. His “big bike” was somehow bigger and heavier than that. He could ride uphill faster than anyone else I knew at the time on his “xc” bike when the rest of us were on actual xc bikes.
I picked up an older (2011 Demo8) DH bike over the winter and have been bringing it back to life. I've always wanted one and now you can pick up decent old ones for reasonable prices. Looking forward to weekend shuttle laps with friends this spring.
Going to point out that 2 piece rotor is called a floating rotor. Designed that way for thermal expansion so it does not warp the rotor when they get over heated. Contact point between the aluminum and steel is very minimal and is more for weight savings than acting as a heatsink.
Man I remember my Rocky Mountain Slayer SS (Slopestyle) Wade Simmons Signature Edition. That think was so playful and beautiful looking with Wades custom paintjob and crazy decals (mini Wades jumping from a helicopter, north shore trails etc.) I wish I never sold that bike. It was from 2008, had of course 26“ wheels and you could throw it around like no modern bike of today! I wish I could attach a picture from back then to this comment..
Hey guys you should do a new tech video mid 90s themed and review tech from then like it’s new now I think that would be sweet to watch for a special video👍🏻🔥
Reminds me of the Buccaneer aircraft. Designed and built to do one job (carrier-based low level bombing) and do it really well. Like a DH bike, a really tough specialist.
I'd love a downhill bike, but I also know that in reality I have to get to the top of the hill too. So I'll stick with my aging ibis mojo SL with 26inch wheels. I can hit 36 mph+ in my local woods on my fave downhill bits.
Having spec'd out a lot of bikes, the first thing to acknowledge is the rider, their goals, and abilities. I saw one of the Lacondeguay's hang mid-pack in a WC XC race on a rigid SS in jeans and a t-shirt- for the first two laps...My 2003 Turner DHR got turned into my daughter's first full bore DH bike, and would still fill that role for any small, light rider for at least their first 2-3 years of lift service. Show me a top 50% e.t. and you get a better bike- that's the rule. Turned out, XC was genuinely her thing, so the DHR is available again; don't spend stupid money on 'new' you don't need.
I totally agree with Doddy on this one, D/H riders are the fastest coolest bikers on the hill. Still running 26x 2.30, Z1 BAM Bombers, low saddle, wide bars, gripshift 7 speed. Catch me if you can. Dave Hemmings is the only pro to pass me xxx
With my heart I'd buy a DH bike, with my brain I'd buy an enduro bike. I've had an admiration for DH bikes and their all-out no-nonsense character when it comes to speed ever since I read an article about an urban DH race in a metro station. To me, they are the cycling equivalent of Trophy Trucks: speed in the roughest of terrains above all else. Saddly, there are no lift assisted bikeparks in all of my country (as far as I'm concerned) so I really have no use for a DH bike. Maybe one day when my pockets become deep enough to afford having more than one bike.
I always have had a dh bike for the last 20yrs It doesn't get the use it used to pre covid but I wouldnt be without it nothing compares to a dh rig that's set up properly
So will we get Neil saying that the Enduro bike is the best and Rich doing the CX and obviously Martin with a Trials. I mean today its Doddy and the coolest bike is DH and yesterday was Blakes love of the Hardtail. I don't mind great videos just wondering.
Nice in depth look Doddy Now this isn’t necessarily another bike to review, more so relating to the age old rider fit conundrum we all face when buying a new/second hand bike. Im referring particularly to Lee McCormacks famous R.A.D system (rider area distance) I know pros like Sam Hill and the like supposedly use this method to fit their bikes, however, i am interested in your take on this method and seeing how it relates to the average everyday rider who is going to be both focusing on efficient pedalling uphill and bombing downhill tech and gnar. Cheers! 🤙
Only thing I'd like to have is the forks, with limited steering lock one reason to reducing damaged anyone that's race motor cycle on hard surface will know this, oh and bottom bash plate !
Doddy, could I use an eccentric BB to compensate for short chainstays? I'm in between L and XL sizes on a bike I'm interested to buy but I'm worried the short 435mm chainstays will put my weight too far back on the bike. I wonder if a ~6mm shift forward using an EBB would be noticable and comparable to a 441mm chainstay?
I'm surprised someone hasn't picked up an old dirt bike like a yz 125 or something and gutted it for a downhill bike. You could rig up some kind of pedal system prbly. I dunno.
Would the Norco Shore be considered a DH bike. Weight was never considered, and with a simple adjustment to the shock it has 190 rear travel, and it has a 63 degree head angle and a longer wheelbase than some DH bikes. I know I would consider it a downhill bike because when I got it and put DVO emerald dual crown forks on it and an eagle drivetrain and 210 dropper my goal was a DH bike that could crawl to the top if needed.
I guess I am in an odd minority in that I started mtb on a DH bike and, 17 years later, I only recently got my first “pedal bike” (a Nomad). I still think of DH bikes as being the purest mtb, with everything else being a compromise made to get you to otherwise unreachable goods. In my mind, an Xc is to a DH what Nordic skiing is to alpine skiing,; related but not really the same sport.
I watch a lot of the Megavalanche and Mountain of hell videos. Are they the same bikes as you're showing us? If not what kind of bike would I need to run those races and not end up in the rear ? Watching these videos it looks like they do sit down at different times. These races are about 16 to 18 miles. The bike you're showing would it let you make it down the track / race? A question not related to the bike ( well it might be ) but some riders have problems with arm and hand / grip fatigue. What could or you should do to cut down or eliminate that fatigue?
for me there is a mistakes in this video, and it's considering that downhill = downhill racing. A huge part of the riders that own a DH bike don't even race, we can ride bike park, freeride lines, or even huge jump lines, which doesn't mean going down the mountain as fast as possible, other than that it's pretty complet
It's a shame that a lot of other bikes don't have the same adjustability, at the mo it's only the specialized Stumpy EVO and I can't bare to buy the Audi of MTB world
I am almost 63 years old, with no experience of DH biking (ever). Just got myself a 2016 Cove Shocker bike, want to compete in MEGAVALANCHE 2023 (on my 65th birthday). any advice would be very useful, Part from (Are you out of your mind) thanks
@@floydblandston108 Dear Floyd, being type one diabetes over 50 years and war zoon photographer for 28 years, that Insurance already expired. My advice for one like you "enjoy life"
I used to run my saddle on my down hill bike extremely low. but that is mostly because I have exceptionally short legs and just need to get it out of the way so when the saddle is less than 10mm from the rear wheel when the suspension is fully compressed is it where I want it to be. but on the statement you put out about the down hill bikes being the coolest bikes do I have to disagree. I used to agree with you until roughly half a decade ago. around that time did I transition from thinking that downhill bikes were the coolest to thinking that the enduro bikes are the coolest. I think they look cooler and the fact that they are nearly as capable down hill whilst still being able to pedal up hill makes them even cooler. but a DH bike is still a close second.
In my opinion mountain bikes dont need to have more than a single chainring at the front its just extra weight and more that can go wrong. Single speed for life
It will still pedal like a downhill bike, it is not designed to have a great pedal platform, but rather for the best suspension feel. Die seat tube angle will also be horrible and the bike is quite hefty. I would rather get an enduro bike, if you actually want to pedal the bike.
"mega chunky tyres" - why aren't downhill bikes just straight on fatbikes? Wouldn't that makes them even better at gliding over roots and rocks and all that?
I always wondered why mountain bikers don't label the downhill fork clamps as triple clamps as we do in moto. The crown is actually on the fork legs. Up high is three clamps, two on the fork stanchions and one for the bars, where as the "crown" bridges the lowers. Just my two cents. Cheers!
Hi doddy I have an 06? Cove peeler dh I'm working on, is there anything you could tell me about cove and the peeler, I paid £280 for the frome and fox 5th Element coil shock, and an extra £180 for marzocchi 888r v2 forks, before I put anymore money into it I'd just like to know what you think about the peeler?
Can you install an xtr or xt groupset on a DH bike so that they can pedal better? Or could you install a twin crown suspension fork on the lightest enduro bike to make it more DH capable?
You could put a big cassette on a dh bike, but it would still be heavy, the angles would be bad for climbing or pedalling, and the suspension would bob whenever you pedalled. You could put a double crown fork on an enduro bike, but I wouldnt recommend it unless the manufacturer says that it is OK.
@@bananasstuff3344 I can imagine putting a bigger cassette on a DH bike would get you better gearing but due to the geometry & weight of the bike it would still not pedal well. The reason I ask all this is because GMBN did a series in the past describing different types of bikes. I think what they wanted to show is if you could have one do it all bike, what would it be or could there be a most capable MTB out there?. Also VitalMTB did a "downduro" project where they installed a dual crown fork on a long travel enduro bike (180mm). So possibilities are there but they will all be compromised of course
@@shafhamid83 They work absolutely same, but you have to remove the lower chain guide part (which make the tension on the chain). Btw GMBN made video about this, they put 12 speed shimano groupset and droper post on dh bike.
Yeah I’ve my eye on an enduro/ all mountain but you can easily fall in the rabbit hole with this sport, way too many bikes to choose from, the main GMBN channel posted a video comparing the DH vs Enduro, and essentially proved that nowadays the enduros are so capable that you don’t need a DH anymore, so it’s confusing having this video out glorifying DH again..
@GMBN, one thing I've been wondering about for a while now, is why people flip their bike sideways when jumping (even downhill racers)… it does look cool of course, but is there an actual benefit for throwing your bike sideways?
@@floydblandston108, you mean it slows you down mid air? Whenever I see people do it here on UA-cam, it feels like they're going to miss the timing to put the bike straight again and land with the pedal sticking into the ground :)
@@Joram0611 - think of the physics; anything that disrupts the inertia, reduces the speed, which in this case also allows for more precise positioning. The classic example would be Steve Peat vs. 'Big Air' Minaar. Petey rarely flew high or far, using handling and traction to maintain momentum, while Greg was 'faster', but choppier.
@@floydblandston108, thanks! I get what you're saying, but it 'feels' inefficient to see racers slowing down in mid air somehow :) With all the jumping videos that GMBN has done, I haven't seen one that really explains the technique behind it… would be quite interesting to see someday!
I‘d like to try a downhill bike from rental but here in Germany and Austria it will have the front brake on the left and I ride my bikes the other way round. How is that in Britain? Would a rental bike be front brake on the right? When you buy brakes over there, do they come with the shorter hose on the right?
Britain is right hand front brake (moto style) same as Australia, surely the rental place will swap them for you? especially since the levers can run either way up so no bleeding is required, and integral gear changers are usually on the clamp bit of the lever so wouldn't be issue either.
@@chrisridesbicycles Yhea the shop will swap them, it'll probably take them a few minutes. I'd at least ring. It'd be madness to come here to try a DH from somewhere you have so many mountains. DH bikes, unless you live in about 2 places in Britain, are total over kill these days. Phone local shops and ask. Try shops that hire to tourists as well. If a shop gets a lot of Brits hiring bikes they'll probably already have them set up for them anyway.
It went together easily in less than an hour. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Make sure the front fork is forward or the pedals will hit the front tire. Tires are both a little soft so it needs air before I ride it. The rear wheel didn't come with a clamp regular bolts hold it on. The front had the clamp. No scratches out of box. Rims are a little off with a slight wobble. They could have spent more time with the spoke tool fixing the run out. So far out of the box I'm happy with it. I did replace the pedals with a nice aftermarket set. After riding it a bit my A$$ is a bit sore so I ordered another seat. Overall I'm nearly 60 and didn't ride a bike in 30 years. I like my new 29" Schwinn. It will be used for casual rides with my friend.
Shimano and crankbrothers have different cleats and clapping system they only work with same brand system. Shimano is only shimano and crankbrothers is only crankbrothers
The bike that everyone loves and wants but knows they won’t use nearly as much as they should.
So true :)
Negative. I ride mine daily
nah i disagree. i would never want one. Maybe a super-enduro like the giga but that's my limit. i would never want a DH bike
@@Mile-long-list how is that negative? Hes telling the truth. You're also one of the only ones who does maybe get a job or something
@@tobylestrange4081 ok youre the only one
Ever since I got into bikes as a kid in the early 90’s DH bikes have always been the ultimate in looks, performance and just dam coolness! Every kid in the UK would’ve killed to have an early DH steed like Peaty or Warner.
Honestly this is spot on. I begged and cried for a DH bike for years as a kid. Parents were having none of it 🤣
ROB WARNER DYES HIS HAIR
You can buy one now for a few hundred dollars- go have some fun.
downhill bike is the bike that everyone needs, but they probably won't use it if they are uphill nerds. I bought DH bike a month ago as my main bike, and I will never regret it!
Hell I'm 40 and just grabbed the dh bike i wanted when i was in my 20s it still can shred tho so in happy
What "makes them so specialist from everything else in the market" is that you can only ride them with an uplift 😀 which is ok if thats your preference!
i'm piecing together a nukeproof dissent at the moment, & i'm soooo stoked on getting it finished before the local park opens up! it will be my first time riding one
it’s cool that you mentioned the difference in bike setup from a pro VS an amateur. It’s like an F1 car. They are built and designed to function at race pace. Anything slower and they don’t work well.
I don't necessarily agree, for instance, they're used in fest series, rampage, for whip offs, and much other use that doesn't imply going as fast as possible. It depends mainly on how your bike is set up (suspension, tire pressure, position, etc...)
@@gbvtt76 ... exactly... the difference in “setup” to make the bike do what the pro wants...
From the recent IFHT video:
JUST SAY IT.
It looooks like aa Seesssioooon xD
Best bike add ive seen
Ugha bugha
@@prokopsteiner3900 Noo WAY. 😂🤣
I just installed a downhill Zee brake on my trail bike in the front replacing a basic 2 piston brake. My front wheel is finally fully capable of instantly locking up, like the bike now has the power to stop immediately, I love it.
Have you ever heard of ABS? Locking the wheels does NOT mean faster braking.
@@RoScFan having the power to lock it is also important..
@@RoScFan having the ability to lick it up means more power, and that almost always translates to faster stopping.
@@bananasstuff3344 Power is nothing without modulation. I would sacrifice some power for better modulation, it's difficult not to lock up your wheels with Shimano brakes when bouncing up all over the place on a DH track. Also, consistency is a big factor.
@@prokopsteiner3900 yup, very true. I would always prefer modulation too. I have tried some shimano brakes, but only the lower end ones so I don't want to make any blanket statements about the modulation of their brakes, although I definitely found it poor.
I have a downhill bike, it is a 1999 Saracen team Rush that I built up and put a Sram 1 x 10 drivetrain on, with modern components, I have Michelin and Tioga DH tires from the early 2000's on it that are brand new and no signs of wear that were hung up in my garage
Had 2 loved them, never again unless I move somewhere suited
Never owned one. I know I guy who works in Moab in the summer. His “xc” bike in the early 00s was a DH bike with around 200mm travel and was like 40lbs. His “big bike” was somehow bigger and heavier than that. He could ride uphill faster than anyone else I knew at the time on his “xc” bike when the rest of us were on actual xc bikes.
Finally an educated video about downhill bikes, Many thanks
Could you do this type of video with all the different types of bikes?
I picked up an older (2011 Demo8) DH bike over the winter and have been bringing it back to life. I've always wanted one and now you can pick up decent old ones for reasonable prices. Looking forward to weekend shuttle laps with friends this spring.
Going to point out that 2 piece rotor is called a floating rotor. Designed that way for thermal expansion so it does not warp the rotor when they get over heated. Contact point between the aluminum and steel is very minimal and is more for weight savings than acting as a heatsink.
These things are basically the Rock Bouncers (Google it) of the bike world. So cool!
Very true, except they go downhill
Do a "what is a slopestyle bike" episode next
They’ve already done one I think
@@samdanin4125 Sort of, Blake did a "Could you use a slopestyle bike out on the trail and a quick rundown of specs"
@@samdanin4125 But I mean like Doddy could do a more in depth look at them just because they are cool
Man I remember my Rocky Mountain Slayer SS (Slopestyle) Wade Simmons Signature Edition.
That think was so playful and beautiful looking with Wades custom paintjob and crazy decals (mini Wades jumping from a helicopter, north shore trails etc.) I wish I never sold that bike.
It was from 2008, had of course 26“ wheels and you could throw it around like no modern bike of today!
I wish I could attach a picture from back then to this comment..
Super cool video Doddy. Id like to see a video about super enduro bikes and how or if they can suit most riders for DH and bike parks.
I used to have a Kona Stab when I did DH comps. Loved it.
Crazy how much enduro bike have caught up too downhill bikes almost just as good downhill and still fun to pedal and play around on love my mega
Hey guys you should do a new tech video mid 90s themed and review tech from then like it’s new now I think that would be sweet to watch for a special video👍🏻🔥
Reminds me of the Buccaneer aircraft. Designed and built to do one job (carrier-based low level bombing) and do it really well.
Like a DH bike, a really tough specialist.
Still want one. But no DH tracks around here. Asked Brett Tippie for some advice a while back and have my eyes on a Enduro bike. Like the YT Capra.
Loved this video! Just got my first DH bike and obsessed! Rides unlike anything else and is just so rad!
Awesome Video! I'd love to see Videos like this for the other mountainbike types as well!
That Brendog special though. Sweet bike.
I'd love a downhill bike, but I also know that in reality I have to get to the top of the hill too. So I'll stick with my aging ibis mojo SL with 26inch wheels.
I can hit 36 mph+ in my local woods on my fave downhill bits.
Having spec'd out a lot of bikes, the first thing to acknowledge is the rider, their goals, and abilities. I saw one of the Lacondeguay's hang mid-pack in a WC XC race on a rigid SS in jeans and a t-shirt- for the first two laps...My 2003 Turner DHR got turned into my daughter's first full bore DH bike, and would still fill that role for any small, light rider for at least their first 2-3 years of lift service. Show me a top 50% e.t. and you get a better bike- that's the rule. Turned out, XC was genuinely her thing, so the DHR is available again; don't spend stupid money on 'new' you don't need.
I totally agree with Doddy on this one, D/H riders are the fastest coolest bikers on the hill. Still running 26x 2.30, Z1 BAM Bombers, low saddle, wide bars, gripshift 7 speed.
Catch me if you can. Dave Hemmings is the only pro to pass me xxx
26in for life!!! 2001 Schwinn Straight 8 all day!!!
With my heart I'd buy a DH bike, with my brain I'd buy an enduro bike. I've had an admiration for DH bikes and their all-out no-nonsense character when it comes to speed ever since I read an article about an urban DH race in a metro station. To me, they are the cycling equivalent of Trophy Trucks: speed in the roughest of terrains above all else. Saddly, there are no lift assisted bikeparks in all of my country (as far as I'm concerned) so I really have no use for a DH bike. Maybe one day when my pockets become deep enough to afford having more than one bike.
I always have had a dh bike for the last 20yrs It doesn't get the use it used to pre covid but I wouldnt be without it nothing compares to a dh rig that's set up properly
Why not talk about Trials Bikes. I absolute love trials bikes as the skills I learn from it help me a great deal on mtb riding also.
So will we get Neil saying that the Enduro bike is the best and Rich doing the CX and obviously Martin with a Trials. I mean today its Doddy and the coolest bike is DH and yesterday was Blakes love of the Hardtail. I don't mind great videos just wondering.
Nice in depth look Doddy
Now this isn’t necessarily another bike to review, more so relating to the age old rider fit conundrum we all face when buying a new/second hand bike.
Im referring particularly to Lee McCormacks famous R.A.D system (rider area distance)
I know pros like Sam Hill and the like supposedly use this method to fit their bikes, however, i am interested in your take on this method and seeing how it relates to the average everyday rider who is going to be both focusing on efficient pedalling uphill and bombing downhill tech and gnar.
Cheers! 🤙
It be interesting to test old vs new I got the perfect candidate for the old school 03 trek diesel
I didn't knew DH bikes can have a straight tube. Sweet. That means I can put newer DH forks on my old school frame?
Only thing I'd like to have is the forks, with limited steering lock one reason to reducing damaged anyone that's race motor cycle on hard surface will know this, oh and bottom bash plate !
Do a "What is a dirt jump bike" video
Trail and enduro are my favorite categories, but the downhill bike means business.
I think a beefy enduro rig with a dual crown fork at 180/190 would be the perfect one bike
Doddy, could I use an eccentric BB to compensate for short chainstays? I'm in between L and XL sizes on a bike I'm interested to buy but I'm worried the short 435mm chainstays will put my weight too far back on the bike. I wonder if a ~6mm shift forward using an EBB would be noticable and comparable to a 441mm chainstay?
It is a proven fact that if you have a double crown fork it makes you 10% faster
same as if you put flames stickers on your car you gain 5 hp !
@@gbvtt76 lmao
More videos on DH bikes for gmbn there's not that many videos on DH bikes or DH bike builds
I'm surprised someone hasn't picked up an old dirt bike like a yz 125 or something and gutted it for a downhill bike. You could rig up some kind of pedal system prbly. I dunno.
Would the Norco Shore be considered a DH bike. Weight was never considered, and with a simple adjustment to the shock it has 190 rear travel, and it has a 63 degree head angle and a longer wheelbase than some DH bikes.
I know I would consider it a downhill bike because when I got it and put DVO emerald dual crown forks on it and an eagle drivetrain and 210 dropper my goal was a DH bike that could crawl to the top if needed.
I guess I am in an odd minority in that I started mtb on a DH bike and, 17 years later, I only recently got my first “pedal bike” (a Nomad). I still think of DH bikes as being the purest mtb, with everything else being a compromise made to get you to otherwise unreachable goods. In my mind, an Xc is to a DH what Nordic skiing is to alpine skiing,; related but not really the same sport.
Waaaay back in the days before 'mountain bikes' even existed, it was careening down hills that made me love bikes.....and skiing!
That is a phat bike man
I watch a lot of the Megavalanche and Mountain of hell videos. Are they the same bikes as you're showing us? If not what kind of bike would I need to run those races and not end up in the rear ? Watching these videos it looks like they do sit down at different times. These races are about 16 to 18 miles. The bike you're showing would it let you make it down the track / race? A question not related to the bike ( well it might be ) but some riders have problems with arm and hand / grip fatigue. What could or you should do to cut down or eliminate that fatigue?
for me there is a mistakes in this video, and it's considering that downhill = downhill racing. A huge part of the riders that own a DH bike don't even race, we can ride bike park, freeride lines, or even huge jump lines, which doesn't mean going down the mountain as fast as possible, other than that it's pretty complet
true but the bikes are designed to go fast even if you dont
Once Warner finishes his retro build you could pit it against a modern dh bike 🤔
It's a shame that a lot of other bikes don't have the same adjustability, at the mo it's only the specialized Stumpy EVO and I can't bare to buy the Audi of MTB world
So, is the whole point of a downhill bike to get down the side of the mountain as quick as possible?
I am almost 63 years old, with no experience of DH biking (ever). Just got myself a 2016 Cove Shocker bike, want to compete in MEGAVALANCHE 2023 (on my 65th birthday). any advice would be very useful, Part from (Are you out of your mind) thanks
Increased life and health insurance would be your best upgrade.
@@floydblandston108 Dear Floyd, being type one diabetes over 50 years and war zoon photographer for 28 years, that Insurance already expired. My advice for one like you "enjoy life"
I used to run my saddle on my down hill bike extremely low.
but that is mostly because I have exceptionally short legs and just need to get it out of the way so when the saddle is less than 10mm from the rear wheel when the suspension is fully compressed is it where I want it to be.
but on the statement you put out about the down hill bikes being the coolest bikes do I have to disagree. I used to agree with you until roughly half a decade ago. around that time did I transition from thinking that downhill bikes were the coolest to thinking that the enduro bikes are the coolest. I think they look cooler and the fact that they are nearly as capable down hill whilst still being able to pedal up hill makes them even cooler. but a DH bike is still a close second.
XC bike please Doddy 🙏
I got a down hill bag and once you feel it go down the hill there's know going back
They should market ebikes as uphill bikes.
What cap is it you are wearing?
Doddy is it a good idea to buy a downhill bike and change the drivetrain to 1x12 and add a dropper post and make it an Do it all mtb?
100%! That's what I've done for years. Awesome for a cruise too so comfy and always able to shred
@@Mile-long-list does it climb well?
In my opinion mountain bikes dont need to have more than a single chainring at the front its just extra weight and more that can go wrong. Single speed for life
I’d say 95% of the time a superenduro like the giga is more than enough, and it still pedals well.
It will still pedal like a downhill bike, it is not designed to have a great pedal platform, but rather for the best suspension feel.
Die seat tube angle will also be horrible and the bike is quite hefty.
I would rather get an enduro bike, if you actually want to pedal the bike.
"mega chunky tyres" - why aren't downhill bikes just straight on fatbikes? Wouldn't that makes them even better at gliding over roots and rocks and all that?
Rolling speed...
@@lacusstrap8784 Meaning?
@@RoScFan Fat tire is a slower tire because of friction with the ground.
@@vomErsten YES DUDE
Guys build your own style bike it's the best ever lol mine is the only one in the UK RACE edition all hand built it rides like a dream haha
I always wondered why mountain bikers don't label the downhill fork clamps as triple clamps as we do in moto. The crown is actually on the fork legs. Up high is three clamps, two on the fork stanchions and one for the bars, where as the "crown" bridges the lowers. Just my two cents. Cheers!
Hi doddy I have an 06? Cove peeler dh I'm working on, is there anything you could tell me about cove and the peeler, I paid £280 for the frome and fox 5th Element coil shock, and an extra £180 for marzocchi 888r v2 forks, before I put anymore money into it I'd just like to know what you think about the peeler?
2:29 what bike is that?? 59 degrees thats pure madness!
Don't know, but the Grim Donut is 57 degrees
@@-TheRealChris damn thats ugly af xD
Can you install an xtr or xt groupset on a DH bike so that they can pedal better? Or could you install a twin crown suspension fork on the lightest enduro bike to make it more DH capable?
You can both things. I am telling you from personal experience
You could put a big cassette on a dh bike, but it would still be heavy, the angles would be bad for climbing or pedalling, and the suspension would bob whenever you pedalled. You could put a double crown fork on an enduro bike, but I wouldnt recommend it unless the manufacturer says that it is OK.
@@bananasstuff3344 I can imagine putting a bigger cassette on a DH bike would get you better gearing but due to the geometry & weight of the bike it would still not pedal well. The reason I ask all this is because GMBN did a series in the past describing different types of bikes. I think what they wanted to show is if you could have one do it all bike, what would it be or could there be a most capable MTB out there?. Also VitalMTB did a "downduro" project where they installed a dual crown fork on a long travel enduro bike (180mm). So possibilities are there but they will all be compromised of course
@@Flyinpixel did they work good? I can imagine each would be heavily compromised though
@@shafhamid83 They work absolutely same, but you have to remove the lower chain guide part (which make the tension on the chain). Btw GMBN made video about this, they put 12 speed shimano groupset and droper post on dh bike.
Can you talk about Enduro next, and how it compares to DH ones. Most of us can’t afford
To own both bikes so just curious what’s the best one to own
if you only ride park and nothing else, then you can go with DH...
if you actually pedal sometimes, go for enduro
Lol most of us can't afford anything gmbn gets lol
Yeah I’ve my eye on an enduro/ all mountain but you can easily fall in the rabbit hole with this sport, way too many bikes to choose from, the main GMBN channel posted a video comparing the DH vs Enduro, and essentially proved that nowadays the enduros are so capable that you don’t need a DH anymore, so it’s confusing having this video out glorifying DH again..
@@Monyx92 regardless ill still enjoy bombing down on my old school dh lol
@@Monyx92 different channels, but yeah. I'd get an enduro 99% of the time. Capable, but you could pedal.
Hey Doddy, just remind me again... what is the point of a downhill bike? Thanks!
@GMBN, one thing I've been wondering about for a while now, is why people flip their bike sideways when jumping (even downhill racers)… it does look cool of course, but is there an actual benefit for throwing your bike sideways?
It slows you down, so you can position yourself appropriately for where you're landing and what comes after it.
@@floydblandston108, you mean it slows you down mid air? Whenever I see people do it here on UA-cam, it feels like they're going to miss the timing to put the bike straight again and land with the pedal sticking into the ground :)
@@Joram0611 - think of the physics; anything that disrupts the inertia, reduces the speed, which in this case also allows for more precise positioning. The classic example would be Steve Peat vs. 'Big Air' Minaar. Petey rarely flew high or far, using handling and traction to maintain momentum, while Greg was 'faster', but choppier.
@@floydblandston108, thanks! I get what you're saying, but it 'feels' inefficient to see racers slowing down in mid air somehow :) With all the jumping videos that GMBN has done, I haven't seen one that really explains the technique behind it… would be quite interesting to see someday!
@@Joram0611 - Brian Lopes wrote an excellent book on riding skills that covers what you're looking for.
Does this bike come already assembled?
Video on dirt jump bike.
Hey man ,in 2015 I got a bike from Poland ,brand ns bikes i can't find anything about it anymore ,?can you check ? Is amodel 2015 ns bikes ,,soda Evo.
DJ is Redbull and,
DH is Mercedes
if you get what I mean
whats everyones dream bike brand mines nukeproof
nukeproof mega to be exact
I really want to feature a downhill bike on my channel
Doddy is a traile bike more like a downhill bike more similar than over bikes out
@Doddy , or someone else, plase tell me what hat you (he) are wearing, i have a cap fetish :)
I‘d like to try a downhill bike from rental but here in Germany and Austria it will have the front brake on the left and I ride my bikes the other way round. How is that in Britain? Would a rental bike be front brake on the right? When you buy brakes over there, do they come with the shorter hose on the right?
Britain is right hand front brake (moto style) same as Australia, surely the rental place will swap them for you? especially since the levers can run either way up so no bleeding is required, and integral gear changers are usually on the clamp bit of the lever so wouldn't be issue either.
@@-TheRealChris I think SRAM had swappable levers (do they still have them?) Shimano has dedicated left and right levers so you have to bleed them.
@@chrisridesbicycles Yhea the shop will swap them, it'll probably take them a few minutes. I'd at least ring. It'd be madness to come here to try a DH from somewhere you have so many mountains. DH bikes, unless you live in about 2 places in Britain, are total over kill these days. Phone local shops and ask. Try shops that hire to tourists as well. If a shop gets a lot of Brits hiring bikes they'll probably already have them set up for them anyway.
@@itarry4 Good point. I will ask in Sölden this summer
downhill bike with a martello tyre?
Fucking hell doddy give Neil a valve cap it seems to be missing
Presta valves don't need caps...and they add weight! : D
@@floydblandston108 they stop dust and dirt....and grow up : O
@@smashyrashy - you think I'm kiddding?
Can I try one?
Looks like a session
It went together easily in less than an hour. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Make sure the front fork is forward or the pedals will hit the front tire. Tires are both a little soft so it needs air before I ride it. The rear wheel didn't come with a clamp regular bolts hold it on. The front had the clamp. No scratches out of box. Rims are a little off with a slight wobble. They could have spent more time with the spoke tool fixing the run out. So far out of the box I'm happy with it. I did replace the pedals with a nice aftermarket set. After riding it a bit my A$$ is a bit sore so I ordered another seat. Overall I'm nearly 60 and didn't ride a bike in 30 years. I like my new 29" Schwinn. It will be used for casual rides with my friend.
Want one but can't afford one...
No brakes is what makes the very best of the downhillers.
#askGMBNtech just wanted to ask if crankbrothers pedal attachment will fit on to shimano mtb cleat shoes and vise versa? thankss in advancee♥️💯👌
No.
Shimano and crankbrothers have different cleats and clapping system they only work with same brand system. Shimano is only shimano and crankbrothers is only crankbrothers
What if you swap the cleats to match the pedals, can you still use the same shoes ?
@@Dieterbe Yes.
Just wowwwwwwwwww
Imagine being the one dislike 😡😡
This is not a downhill bike. It has Vittoria tires.
Buy a big wheel 85cc MX bike and take the motor out.
Hardtail downhill bikes? 🤔🤔
Go find some old WC footage from the 80's! : )
Slopestyle bike
@@connorcampbell144 autocorrect😂
@@bfoster6103 Sorry
Eeee
imagine getting pinned by GMBN Tech .
#first
First to what??? Flex your the first to watch like and comment on this video???? How old are you??? Grow up
Well done LOL I hardly make it first.
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