FPV Drone with WOOD FRAME?... Kaveman Kwads!
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- FPV drones have developed into some of the most technologically advanced machines! With lightning fast processing and powerful motors, small freestyle quads deliver incredible performance!
....But let's revisit how FPV drones used to be built. Big motors and props, Simon K ESCs, KK2 flight boards, and best of all WOOD FRAMES?!
Shout out to Shawn (Let's Fly RC) for building these vintage drones for us.... and letting us crash them!
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Drew Camden [Le Drib]
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Alex Vanover [CaptainVanover]
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So many people started with the tricopter. I don't think Windestål gets enough credit for the amount of people he inspired with his shenanigans.
Frank deBros ^^^
He’s a massive proponent of the industry. And hilarious at the same time. So much love for David
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What about josh bixler and josh scott
@@TheKingDrew I feel both you mentioned have done great things to really boost the hobby. They were very beginner friendly and opened doors for many! David is just so full of knowledge on a different level and brings that added element that was lacking all while making you laugh at the same time. All three are great!
I want to see an average pilot with a modern kwad vs vanover with a kk2
Excellent idea!
Seconded.
But they need to be comparably powered. Same size motors, props and battery.
@@DocmurdocFPV No, they can't. That's not the point.
@@DocmurdocFPV frame would rip apart
"Normally you full-throttle, invert, full yaw.
My quad does none of those things."
;D
"My quad flew like crap and now it's broken" is a pretty relatable post sesh sentiment.
I was always so Jealous watching FT videos back in the day - wishing I lived closer so I could go fly with them.
It is so amazing to have a similar opportunity with Rotor Riot - flying with friends is the best.
"I appreciate Shaun for fixing this thing, I appreciate that he fixed it, but it's all for nothing. It's just going to break again"
This is so much better with friends, you're absolutely right.
This was a fun trip down memory lane. kk2 was the new hotness when I started. I was a pretty big noob so I didn't figure out how to manipulate the flight controller, but I did do flips by whipping back and completely chopping the throttle so the board couldn't control anything while it was upside down then getting back on the throttle once it made it around. lol then a kk2.1.5 for a while then a vortex 250 pro right after those came out. kk2 is where I learned to fly, vortex is where I learned how to send it. Now I have a handful of quads that are more capable than I am.
I love the memories this video brings back. It was really experimentation back then. The only reason I didn't start with KK2 is they were never in friggin' stock, so I ended up starting out with a CC3D on OpenPilot, which was a whole different animal from what other folks had.
Drew and Shawn's comments about never flying with anyone back then is so true. You did all your learning in forums reading posts about other people's PIDs and experiences. And it sucked, because you'd fly 30 seconds, crash, go back online and start over. And all your real friends thought you were totally weird. OK, that part hasn't changed, haha.
Same here. Only the truly dedicated actually got to fly the beasts.
So much fun in this video... And OMG Alex is SOOoooo competitive, no wonder he wins just about everything he touches :-)
Jan A - LOL - yes he is. Haha
This makes all the OG v tail pilots feel really good about them selves
Such a cool history lesson. Flying 12 amp SimonK escs, KK2s, garbage props and wooden frames....we were just so amazed we could fly these things in any way. The ingenuity of this phase of FPV was so freakin exciting. I'm glad they mentioned David Windenstall, he was such a big factor with his tricopter and his FPV setups. My first board was the Naze32 on Clearflight, and it was such hot shit at the time. It's insane how far we've come!
Started with a RCExplorer tricopter (David Windestal) and three separate gyro's (for heli-tail).
After this it was an Arduino mini with the little PCB taken from a nunchuck controller. All "programmed" with the MultiWiiConfigurator.
Fun times, and at that time it is hard to believe the performance and crash resistance we are now used to.
This is Rotor Riot.... and its awesome 😁👌
Its amazing how far stuff has come along! I remember the KK2 boards, always fine turning the gyros on field! I used to take my iPhone, put it on facetime, and call from another phone on the ground to have an "FPV" setup! Its crazy how the latency now days is almost nothing and we are at the point we are at.
I just wanna say, Vanny is super intense... but behind the scenes he's a sweet kid haha.
He’s annoying. I get he’s young and super competitive but a little humility would go a long way with this kid.
Radio controlled sailing vessels, International 6 and 12 meter class. I was more into the aero/hydro design than remembering the radio shack controller's and servio's. Kind of like a modern hibrid auv's of the day. I have great fun watching these very educational productions. BRAVO!.
I still fly my FT tricopter with kk2 board, LOS just like a helicopter...
Jeanbat TCG I still have my original Windestal tricopter frame in the closet - back when I cut if with a jigsaw from his free plans. :)
Me to
Lets Fly RC Yup same here. Mine was a c2.6HV (“with wooden booms!”). Also got a v3, v4, mini, baby, and LR haha.
I loved to watch this Video. I started with a CC3D Board with Open Pilot and a Lisam Frame a few Years ago. I was so excited to have this Setup up in the Air the First Time. And in my First Loop it went down. Lipo and a Motor were damaged. I didnt realized the damage Motor at first and it cost me 2 more ESC;) After this i Stress i went back to Planes for a long Time. But last Season i startet again with new Setups and 6s;) WOw 6s is a Beast in Freestyle. I have alot of fun flying FPV with Friends and I cant wait for better Weather here in Germany. Every Friday i go fly in the Sportshall with some 2" and 3" Kwads....but those cant beat the Feeling of a 6s 5"... I love this Hobby so much that i sell all my Planes now;)
I really enjoyed this. I had no idea that the OG quads looked like this. Amazing how far the hobby has come. I’ve only been flying for 2 years and I’ve already seen a huge progression in the technology and quality in parts
Rad to see Furadi on an RR.
just getting into this and there is SO MUCH TO LEARN! Not including the history/evolution of quads. Makes you wonder what it'll be like in 10 years from now... W O W ! ! !
Started RC flying in 2015 with a friend and my first build was a David Windestål tricopter, I CNC cut the frame out of delrin (polyacetal plastic) and had Naze32 on it. Back then 9 inch biblade prop was the norm :) That was still all custom power harness from wire with bullet connectors and dupont servo plugs but sometime after the "direct solder everything" school of thought started taking over. I think I still have the frame and some of the parts in a bin somewhere.
I've been flying since I was 10. Now I'm 17. ROFL...... Old man right there. I remember when RC flying was single engine on a string because an radio controller cost a thousand dollars.
Melbourne crew (WitnessOnly) checking in from epic locations like ‘Bradmills’ you guys are living my FPV days all over again... Multiwii and Kk2, designer of ‘The Rat’ That was fun 😎 Thanks guys
I'm coming to this video way late after being away from the hobby for almost 8 years now(having a kid is expensive). The last thing I flew before my daughter was born was an H-Frame Knuckle with a KK 2 and no FPV, all LOS. Fell out of the hobby when I crashed and ruined my board because money was just too tight. Picked up a Mavic Air 2 earlier this year for family stuff and started getting back into it then got a Tinyhawk Freestyle 2 after getting all my certs and stuff. Things have changed so much it's wild.
i'm here from the time of the kk boards also. from the best times, i built many tricopters, even made 10" filming h quad with a gopro 3 and a self made brushless gimbal. also a similar 8" quad like Jos had with a 2200 3s 20c battery
Me too...360mm bumblebee! You can see it on my yt channel way back.
Wanna know more about self-made brushless gimbal
Its like a meet up of Model T’s, always fun to look back and see where this whole thing came from, not even just for FPV Freestyle, but for almost every avenue a flying craft with 4 motors is involved in.
Great to see Conrad with the crew. 👍
Nice video, I started flying with the first KK Board before the screen. Made my own FT tricopter, also a quad and started designing my own frames, maybe 5 or 6 years ago? Haven’t stop making new frames today. Love IT !!!.
Love this episode.... bring out the antiques!! I have many....and I still fly them. Great fun right there.
First kwad was a FuriBee Stormer 220
Loved it and still have it.
Have since had another 5inch...
Built a 7 inch
Bought a Uk65 whoop
And my latest is Tinyhawk 2.
Love FPV and Roto Riot has had an insane impact on getting me started.
Love you guys
JB you cracked me up! 🤣😆 Guys! That felt good.. 👍 so funny 🤭😆👌
Finally some non DJI related episodes
Thank God. And game of kwad is also back
Hate for DJI I'm used to but.... Love for Game of Kwad? I did not see that coming. Glad y'all like the episode.
@@JoshuaBardwell yeah, definitely make more like this❤️
@Joshua Bardwell The Game of Kwad brings you all together as friends and rivals in one go, fun to watch.
@@JoshuaBardwell Dude this episode was solid! Just having fun flying quads. @audiogek and @licensetodrive hit the nail on the head! Also its always great to see Drew bully Vanover, that dynamic is hilarious.
Thanks for the continued support
Started even before the KK2, back then I dont even think there were any flight controllers or they were not easy to find. My first quad was actually with a costum made FC, a microcontroller, some gyros, and a lot of trial and error to code it. I never even thought of any tricks just hovering was a success hahaha. Seeing all this quad history is amazing, brings back a lot of great memories of the last 10 years or so
Old flite test was amazing, I loved that channel. Got a Kraken hung up in my garage, and a KK2.1 powered tricopter too!
I got into the hobby when the KK2.1.5 board had just come out, and the screen was a huge deal because you didn’t need computer to change any settings lol.
I made a quad which I crashed so then I built a tricopter using legos to build a tilt. It flew amazing!
I actually remember getting a KK board without a screen (with the vertical gyro) and I couldn’t get it to work with my TX because I had trouble with the FTDI. So fortunately the KK2.1.5 came out and I could get in the air.
Putting on goggles. And flying is still so fun for me!!! I LOVE. F.P.V. DRONES!!!
That was awesome. Having only been in FPV for a little over a year I’m amazed at how far this has come since 2014 era stuff. I flew nitro planes and 3D choppers in the late 90s through 2008 and this stuff today blows my mind. 🤘
Started with the Simplecopter tri-copter and Simplecopter V-tail running the KK2.1, and good ole SimonK esc's that burst into flames with no warning. Ha. Great episode guys, that really brings back some good memories. My old wooden frame multirotors hang on my garage wall, and I believe that's where I'll leave them. Ha.
14:12 I am laughing so f*** hard🤣🤣🤣🤣
Shoutout to those who remember flashing those bb2 chipsets on the old simonK escs...
Bardwell's explanation is so accurate and funny.
Naze32 rev5 running cleanflight. I'm so glad I got into the hobby after KK boards were on the way out!
I run cleanflight Naze32 REV4 on my freestyle quads & KISS v2 kc on my race quads
Thanks for bringing these out! Might have broke all of them, but it was worth it just to show them off.
You guys should do a video on 3d printed drones and use a bunch of different filament types to see how design and materials work together to make a good flying drone.
I came from competitive RC Car racing in the 80s. Thankfully I started in this hobby on the F3 board. Respect goes out to everyone who started in this hobby in the early years. Great content, keep up the good work RR.
Thanks guys, this episode took me back to the good old days.
My first quads were running Pixhawk and CC3D. LOS 10" Pixhawk with aluminum arms then decided to get into FPV with a Nighthawk280 running a CC3D, eventually upgrading to various NAZE boards with those brutal emax MD motors LOL! Remember those giant board cameras!
7:45 "I'm sry that i raised the throttle" haha best comment ever
I got into rc more than 18 years ago, flying nitro planes. I've seen the drones around but I really had no idea how cool fpv is till I turned 26 and started looking for a cool gift for myself. Hoping my dad's old jr pcm9xii will accept the frsky module
I still have a KK2 sitting in a draw. I bought it from Hobbyking, I think they may have still been Hobbycity back then. I put it on one of their 250 frames thinking I was going to learn to fly in my tiny backyard. It was heavy as hell and had two blade props that made sooo much noise the whole neighborhood knew when I was flying/crashing. Things have come a long way since then, loving the toothpick class these days.
I started with helicopters, back in the days multirotors were just some toy drones with brushed coreless motors and plastic frames that resembled wacky spacecraft with long skinny legs
I love throwback stuff like this! Really makes you appreciate how good the modern stuff is! 👌
My first scratch build was the FT Electrohub kit purchased from ReadytoFlyQuads (remember them?) complete with a a Flip1.5 FC, SimonK esc's, and a LemonRX receiver. IT WAS AWESOME. Later I ditched the Flip for a EagleTree Vector, an EZUHF, a 2.4Ghz IRC fpv system and turned it into a hexacopter. IT WAS AWESOME. I still have that setup. I still get a solid 30min of flight time on a pair of 3s 5200mah ran in parallel and have flown as far as 5 miles out with it so suck it DJI
I built my first quad in 2013 on a 600mm wood frame shaped like a Roman numeral X, so of course I named it the Mark Ten, aka Mk X, using a KK2 board and 9" props. Since I wasn't doing fpv yet, I wanted a big quad so I could see the damn thing flying LOS! I finally smashed that frame a couple of days ago while fooling around with iNav RTH. Mainly I fly a 4" fpv quad with a custom wood frame now. You guys are way ahead of me, but I won't let that stop me from trying to catch up. I think my next quad will be a CinePro or CineQueen.
I started flying helis back in '97. My first multi-rotor was a tri-copter using a KK board. =)
TheRealSuperman217 - OG - My second multirotor was the tricopter. My 1st went into the wall at mach III before I ever got to fly it, lol.
I still fly my wooden quads with kk2 board... I have a 10 inch, 5 inch and 3 inch quad. Love them... Knuckle H frames... lol... love them!
Similar to what Bardwell is flying in the video
Still less frame flex then the cl1 :D love you guys
Buh, Buh, BURN!!! - I never noticed. Lol. Those 5mm arms, tho. ;)
I really like Furadi. Conrad just seems like a great guy.
Great episode!
I'm a year late to this vid but was excited to see Conrad also, seems like a decent man. Watch all of his content.
Now we see it's not about the equipment but it's all about flying with friends and have some good fun 🙂
rebuild my old tricopter 2.5 with KK2 mini last week. it flies sooo smooth, love it.
I got into the hobby a year ago, but I had the old stuff when I got in, F1 boards and stuff.
Kk2 board.
Still on my original tricopter made with all wood frame. Flew it yesterday.
Great episode guys... Reminds me of the old days!
Slippery FPV Tons of nostalgia, for sure.
my first quad was an FT Versa Copter V2 built for LOS flight. I was in middle school and couldn't afford an fpv setup lmao. think it was a naz32 with 2204 motors and 6inch 2 blades. used full sized RC airplane esc's and 6 channel receiver. i gout out of quadcopters for a while after that and just recently got back into it with a Happy Model crux3 and am loving the hell out of it
This was a great episode. First quad was a wizard x220s. Which was Betaflight with a Omnibus F4.
What do you think of it today
@@AngelWingrc so long ago at this point I can't remember. I built my first shortly after. Now it just sits as a relic.
I came in on a Versacopter on an old Naze 32. Betalight was a newer thing, esc's were as fast as Windows Vista, and out receivers still had 1000 pins in them just to get a full second of latency.
Also I had about 150 props cus they broke every 6 seconds, damn I love how far we've come.
I started out with a Cheerson CX-10A, non-FPV quad that runs on a 100mAh battery, then Cheerson CX-20 GPS quad.
But my intention was always FPV, so I bought HD2's over 3 years ago and started flying a Syma X5C clone with an AIO camera.
Then some months after I learnt acro on FPV Freerirder and bought a Kingkong 90GT for some proper FPV, which led me on to the Kingkong ET100 & ET125, Aurora QAV105, Emax Hawk 5 and brushless whoops. Most of which still work perfectly.
Awesome episode. Loved every stupid second of it. Watching Vanover do Mattys on a friggin' V-tail was the icing on the cake.
You guys, I had such a great time watching this episode. In my opinion I love watching you guys going out as a family of friends having a good time. Poor Bardwell got the shitty end of the stick this time, poor Bardwell.
My first anything that went in the air via remote control was the F550 Hexacopter. Every now and then I still like to plug it in and take it up in the air. I don’t go out to parks or fly anywhere in town, my neighbor has a dirtbike track and they don’t mind me flying there. I love their reaction when they hear Those 610 inch propellers ramping up on a power loop.
Keep more videos like this coming!
Explore Northwestern Michigan the sound of these quads is really amazing. Lol. Poor Bardwell.
Hmmm, I’m thinking a 250 size hexacopter 🤔
Started years ago with a "YFO" with 3 gyros and computer radio mixing madness, still fly the old school RC👍
I have scars on my forearm where my gyro only tricopter attacked me! Never did get that to fly under control.
OMG I'M so happy I startd end of 2017!
What an AMAZING episode!! Thank you guys so much for this!
First time I saw a multicopter was at my local flying field, where all we flew there were airplanes and helis. Then one day a few of the guys started experimenting with some ridiculously bad-flying kk2 quads that could barely manage a circuit. Nonetheless, I was very intrigued by the copters and decided to research the subject matter a bit. Those guys were having loads of fun and laughing their butts off and I wanted in on the fun.
We're down here in Brazil and none of those modellers spoke English well enough to be able to explore youtube content on multirotors. I went on youtube and discovered David Windestal, Bruce Simpson and the Naze 32 board. I ended up building a Hobbyking Talon tricopter with 10 inch props and a naze 32 board. When I showed up at the field, my tricopter flew extremely well and impressed the crap out of the other guys. Everyone immediately switched to the Naze 32 board and Baseflight. I later built an RC Explorer tricopter for line of sight flying which became one of my all-time favorite models (until I lost it to a lake). Even though the Naze copters flew badly by today's standards, back then they were my best flying model aircraft, period (as compared to all my other model airplanes). It was crazy how well they flew.
Back then none of us was messing with FPV; it was strictly an LOS thing and the large size of the copters was a good thing.
Best regards from Brasilia, Brazil.
My first quad was a ZMR250 with a CC3D board...
I'm really happy we have now stacks and a quad is build with less than 30 solder joints and that BetaFlight progressed so far...
Alex I started on a DIY’ed all wooden BatBone V tail. Still have it too. Loved how it flew.
Came into the hobby during the advent of Remote ID 😂 hopefully one day we’ll look back laughing as if this was one of the golden days
The old flite test music was a nice touch too :)
I also started with flitetest but got carried away into rc airplanes. Now I'm about to get into drone territory.
Loved it. best part was Joshua's inverted yaw spin!!! hahaha
Loved this
I'm flying a Naze 32 rev 5 on a qav210 as my daily flyer
It's all I own and love flying it
I started with the bigger homebrew quads,they can be made to fly good with a few hrs tuning,differant props etc,good thing was they were easy to see when following,still good fun..
Amagad, I remember the kk2 controller, I had a wierd sandwich box as the base and protective "lid" :D I remember the sound of those ocillations and big ass props swinging! I just got back into the quads, normally i like to slope, but the tech just looks soooo much simpler now, I mean these "Stacks" with plug and play stuff... I has to have a new one :D No FPV back then though! Hillarious video, thank you!
I had a frame made out of plywood and aluminium tubes, megapirate 16 bit FC, camera with 90 degree FOV, giant ass motors and 8+" props. After every crash i had to spend 15 minutes reattaching everything with zipties. I had to program escs with FTDI adapter, balance props that would explode on contact with grass, and use loud beeper to control voltage.
Nowadays everything in FPV just works out of the box, it's so much better, yet people still complain about having to solder 20 wires per quad :D
I sound like an old fart from 50 years ago, but all that happened only 5 years ago.
I built a wooden tricopter last Friday night. Just sorta mocked it up and built it. 11inch props on 1190kv motors. Big thing.
Awesome haha
Glad to see Farudi on another episode
My first quad was a TBS Discovery Clone off Amazon (I think that's where I got it). The rest of my parts were from 3D Robotics, motors, ESCs, telemetry modules, APM 1.1 flight controller, gps module.
Nice! I started 2010 with quadrocopters... I absolutely know what they are talking about :)
Naze32 on the original eachine wizard x220 frame. Nice job guys, thanks for the painful memories Haha. Loved it for real! 👍
this brings back so many memories. those kk days
We are in the golden age of FPV right now....before the FAA and Amazon puts an end to the fun.
I'm surprised at the fact lets fly rc was laughing at 14:30 when bardwell is trash talking his first build haha
I still got my old wooden tricopter with a Multiwii board
Haha I started with a multiwii pro on a tricopter with a wood tilt mechanism. Back then the build was fun because it was a challenge.
Evidence of how far FPV has come: Until now. I thought I was the only one who started on an electro hub and naze32.... literally until 5 minutes ago.
Ahhh... I had those wooden crosses with MultiWii firmware as well. They could have been used for exorcism between two flights. And I'm 90% positive I had exactly the same motors with those cheap propellers that you can see at 7:34. Good old times! :-)
I started back in 2013 - Naza v2 on a flame wheele body 450mm. Quickly got board of the naza (phantom) controler and put in a KK2 for real fun.
My first quad was a ZMR250 naze32. Oh what fun! Lol. Kinda makes me appreciate for what we have today. Funny video guys! I was laughing like hell when Bardwell was complaining about his bird🤣😅
Back in the day people weren’t really that interested in doing tricks. When I built my first quad in 2012 everyone mostly wanted to just have a stable, well flying platform for fpv or filming. And about the same time I believe gps support was added to multiiwii. So everyone’s goal then was to build a giant octocopter that would hover by itself and could do thing like return to home etc. And there was a ton of 10 minute long videos on the forums of people just taking off and putting the transmitter on the ground to show off how well their quad hovers. And generally back then your status on the forums was dictated by the size of your multicopter and the number of motors it had :P.
Yeah the good old KK board !!!! That´s how I started, too !! :-)
been in the rc car thing for years - even have a x-maxx 8s. i just 3d printed my 1st quad. using a fs-i6x tx/rx using ppm to an arduino nano running multiwii w/combo 6050 gyro/acc. maiden flight to happen in a few days after the TX arrives. awesome vid.
I started before flitetest, built a giant thing with the original KK2. It was terrifying with 14" props and all the jello. There was no FPV and SimonK hadn't yet come out. I destroyed it every time I flew with an average survival time of about 20 mins.