Upgrading an Optiplex 7010 SFF to the Max CPU - i7 3770
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- Опубліковано 11 лис 2023
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Thank you so much
Can you please do a video of case swapping sff optiplex, preferably a 5060? And can you show us how to bypass the input panel to the motherboard and the power button, thanks
Cool thing!
I'm just wondering about the RTSS HUD showing 75 W GPU power, as I saw the official specs list is showing a Dell 7010 MT having 75 W, but Dell SFF and DT have a 50 W PCIe x16 gen. 3 slot.
Now I have a Dell 7010 DT w/ Samsung EVO 850 SSD, 16 GB DDR3 RAM, atm using a GT 1030 2 GB GDDR5 (which runs perfectly fine for any older and most newer games) and wondered if it makes sense to upgrade to a Nvidia 1050 (Ti), 1650 (S/Ti?), AMD RX6400 or Nvidia RTX A2000.
But there's some things I'm wondering about:
1. without using SATA power to GPU ext. power adapter, how can the PCIe x16 Gen. 3 slot provide more than 50 watts in Dell 7010 SFF/DT, as the official specs say 50 W limit.'
And if using it, the extra power wouldn't be recognized by RTSS?
2. How big should the PSU be? Will the standard 240/255? W PSU be enough? Using only 1-2 SSDs, no HDDs, ~3-4 fans in total, 65 W capped CPU (I've seen in CPU-z and Cinebench that my i5-3570 doesn't get higher than ~65-66 W, it should work with 50 or 75 W GPU, but more is better ofc.
3. One thing I have to check out, which should improve the performance for free on any CPU is software undervolting.
I guess the CPU must be faster having the same 65 W limit with P ~ U² * f when U is lower. Expect maybe 10-20 % more performance, but I haven't tested it yet, playing mostly retro games, it wasn't needed yet^^
I even use MSI Afterburner to lock some games to 60 FPS, if it looks good enough and saves some heat / energy production. Most old games even run with CPU+GPU power = 25-40 W only. That's why I didn't upgrade the CPU+GPU yet.
4. How much will the PCIe x16 Gen. 3 port limit Gen. 4+ cards? I read that AMD RX 6400 Gen. 4 cards run like 20 % slower in Gen. 3 slots.
Actually I think the mainboard is a bit of a bottleneck for new GPUs and a tad bit newer Dell SFF/DT would make sense, but many of those have only 1 slot PCIe x16 GPU space...
5. Buying an AMD RX 6400 4 GB card or Nvidia 1050/1650 (which still have a high price) now makes little sense to me compared to my GT 1030 GDDR5 2 GB, as you mention new games want more GRAM and 6+ GB are way better here.
Could you make a video with comparison of rx6400 in 16x PCI slot and rtx a2000 with dlss in the 4x PCI slot?
Can I use a i7 3770 on a YXT71 motherboard?
Is static transfer a factor?
Is there a way to upgrade usb ports? I have 1650 gpu so those two slots are not available.
If I break off the green bar in the card slot, will that happen?
Can I do this with an optiplex 7020?
does 3010 sff support both rtx a2000 and i7 3770?
great video! I was just wondering if a pc that needs psu+gpu+cpu+ssd+ram upgrade is worth it over a 250dollar pc with i3 9100f+rx580+240gbssd+16gbram+and a good psu? or buying that pc for 250 is better
I’d go with whatever can be upgraded the most and upgrade over time.
What kind of gpu do you have? I got my hands on an Optiplex 5040 and was wondering if I could do this as well
It's written there bozo , it's the rtx a2000
is there a way to put rtx 4060lp in an old optiplex with 260 watt power supply?
I have a rtx a2000 6gb and it bottle necks like at 60%
Hey optigpu i got a optiplx 7010 sff with a2000 but i got a very important question, when i toke out my cpu it seems that the pins are stuck in the motherboard but the top half is ok, is this normal and if so, will getting the new cpu improve my pc alot?
I think thats the design of the intel socket, the pins are on the motherboard and the cpu is kinda flat looking
Yes and yes
@@OptiGPU thx but that was a month ago, merry christmas and sadly i belive i messed up my pc bc i didnt know what was going on
I think i7 3770 more power Consumption than i5 3470. It can be handled on Sff 240 PSU?
Yea it’s doing just fine
Totally irrelevant but i have the same pc but recently it is not powering on, when i connect power cable i hear sound(pew pew pew pew), i removed the heatsink fan cable to check is its problem, when i connect the cable, I'm still getting the sound. Any idea what could have gone wrong?
Spinning hard drive gone bad maybe? Or if nothing comes on at all - here’s a Dell troubleshooting page to help figure out what it could be: www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000125186/how-to-troubleshoot-power-issue-on-a-dell-desktop-or-all-in-one
@@OptiGPU I have posted a video of sound as a UA-cam shorts...it is working now but I had to use a button on PSU and hold it for 3-5seconds and simultaneously push the power on button to on the pc😢😢
@@Kirito2k seems like PSU's internal standby power is defective, some cap popped I guess.
Maybe a big GPU was too much for 240/255 W PSU? But it's also 10 y/o. Capacitor and PSU failures happen more often than anything else.
If that's the case, the internal LED somewhere onboard is off, too, until you press the test / force power on button on the back.
After watched your video I purchased RTX A2000 but temp going to 88°. It is ok or problem?
Sounds like a problem, try cleaning the heat sink, fan with some compressed air. If that does not help or it is not dusty, you may want to re-paste the die. Good luck!
"normal" temp or "hot spot" in HWiNFO64 infos?
My GT 1030 2 GB GDDR5 has a hot spot which is like 10-20 °C higher than the GPU temp RTSS shows.
I think this hot spot basically is the VRAM next to the back of the slot, when seeing thermal pics of some GPUs.
I prefer to keep below 65 °C if possible.
My GT 1030 passive runs at max. 60 °C (but hot spot up to 80 °C also), after I added 2 slim 12 V fans which I attached to 5 V internal USB to keep it quiet, which is good enough for me. But that's a 30 W card, not a 75 W card.
I'd either use HWiNFO64 to manually speed up the front case fan (suck in and blow to the rear side) at like 90 % speed (my Dell 7010 original front fan gets loud only at highest 100s RPM). So it will provide some fresh air.
There's some things you can do: Cut the metal parts where the fan is held. There still is the front panel's plastics.
Remove HDDs, use slim SSD and tighten the cables to get much more airflow.
Maybe attach another 12 V fan from the CPU's side to cool the back of the GPU's PCB. There usually the hottest spot is (VRAM).
Here's a thermal pic from the GPU I use, but it'S not my pic. You can get an idea about VRAM and hottest spot parts.
This is what HWiNFO64 reports or it's virtually calculated from a formula like 1.3 * T_GPU or sth. like that, dunno if there's a real temp sensor at this point.
www.igorslab.de/en/low-profile-passive-active-kuhlung-benchmarks/6/
Esp. for GPUs with no extra heatsink connection to the VRAM get hotter VRAM temps.
I think the GPUs throttle to keep it 85 °C max. or similar to avoid destruction, but it's not healthy for sure.
Would a i7 3770k with overclock work? I have the same pc
Yea that would work. Keep in mind though it draws 75W vs 65W for the i7 3770s.
And also would ddr4 ram work in this build?
@@lucalatella4987 the key notch is in a different location in DDR4 and DDR4 is only compatible with boards using Intel's X99 chipset and LGA 2011 processor socket. That chipset didn’t come out until about a year or 2 later than the 7010 unfortunately.
Dell 7010 SFF/DT have CPU watt limits of 65 W. My i5-3570 f.e. runs at max. 65-66 W instead of 77 W in a Dell 7010 DT regarding RTSS, Argus Mini, HWiNFO64 when running Cinebench. It never got higher than 66 W.
An i7-3770 also is 77 W rated like my i5-3570, an i7-3770k even needs more power overclocked, but only if the socket isn't limited.
I think you need the Dell 7010 MT instead of SFF/DT to get any benefits from that unlocked 3770k over 3770 CPU, unless a patched BIOS works here.
I read that patched BIOS also can virtually overclock locked CPUs like i7-7700 the same as i7-7700k (if the silicon lot is good enough, well even with i7-7700k people need to test 100 CPUs to get 1 which can run at 5 GHz), but I haven't tried modded BIOS yet.
Is there a BIOS patch which unlocks 77 or even 95 or more W for the CPU on Dell 7010 SFF/DT?
But I wonder how he got the GPU working with 75 W showing up in RTSS. I didn't upgrade from my 30 W GPU, but I saw that Dell 7010 SFF/DT have 50 W PCIe x16 slot, while Dell 7010 MT has a 75 W slot. That's the official values.
I thought that you need to use external GPU power to feed it right or it will be slower ofc., but more efficient with lower temps on the other hand.
I'd give software undervolting a try. The same 65 W limit would give you 10-20, maybe 30 % more totally free performance I guess. I have to try it out with CPU-z, Cinebench and some undervolting apps.
I once used undervolting on a C2D E8400 and f.e. the idle CPU temp went down from like 42 °C to 37 °C or even lower (there was no lower values ever on Dell 780 MT). You can imagine that it saves like 5 watts or so.
But when there's a 65 W power limit, an undervolted CPU still is more efficient I think.
It is worth to upgrade?
Yes, nowadays both DDR3 RAM and an i7-3770 and ridiculous cheap and it is a decent deal for an modest computer, especially for rocking some Linux distro.
Yea in my testing it’s handling things much better
I think RAM, CPU are so cheap, yeah.
For SSD only use Intel, Samsung or SanDisk I think. I still think that SATA 3 SSD is fast enough with 500 MB/s max. speed.
NVMe SSD are still so expensive.
For GPU you decide, it's the most expensive part after SSD, but this mainboard starts to bottleneck with PCIe Gen. 3.
If f.e. cheap new i5-12400F or lets say used i7-7700 or anything which is officially not Win 11 supported gets very cheap, then this is better for PCIe Gen. 4/5 than i3xxx mainboards/chipsets.
I read that PCIe Gen. 4 cards in PCIe Gen. 3 systems like this one are like 20 % bottlenecked. People wrote that when talking about an AMD RX 6400 50 W card some months ago. But this one is 4 GB RAM limited still, while the RTX A2000 has 6 or 12 GB RAM.
I got myself a refurbished Optiplex 7010 SFF buying in Amazon some years ago, I just replaced the stock i5 with i7-3770, the stock 8GB 2x4 modules of RAM to 16GB 4x4 ddr3 1600, and my last idea is pushing also a NIC and installing OPNSense (bare-metal, but I don't discard virtualized it on some hypervisor like ESXi)... All of this quite cheap and really practical.
Oh, and I forged mentioning that I also have an SSD on it (PNY CS900 w/ 500GB storage), also a great choice.
Why is this CPU so $$$?