@@Trenex1000 Depends on which artist depiction of Killer Croc I see. Is it the reptile that walks on two legs and talks, or is it just a black dude with a skin rash?
“I got my degree and just got a job as a web developer bro! Wayne Enterprises is paying me $160k! PLUS my apartment is only $900 for 3 bedrooms, I can’t wait to go to Gotham!”
@@spaceengineeringempire4086Batman doesn’t really go after petty crime he goes after those that victimize others make them fear something like people fear the criminals criminals fear the bat because the police don’t protect the common person fear is that protection the common law abiding people don’t need to fear
The city is literally cursed. Being born in Gotham is basically starting life on expert mode. Also, when R. Kelly dedicated a whole track to the place, you know it's cooked.
@@ineedpowers5151 no that place is actually worse, but Gotham got that dark gothic esthetic and metropis got that city of the future and daytime soft esthetic, so people think Gotham is worse. all you need is a gun in Gotham and your fine
I always thought it would be kinda fun to have a side story about a perfectly normal average law abiding citizen in Gotham who just walks around wearing a scary mask. He's not a villain, but wearing the mask makes other criminals think he's a villain so they leave him alone. Like he's an introvert so he enjoys being left alone not having to deal with small talk, and if he does need to talk to someone he can just take it off. How one day he walks into a convenient store forgetting to take off the mask and has to calm the cashier down and explain everything. How he may accidentally start a trend of wearing scary masks and how that trend becomes another part of Gotham's criminal ecosystem, and how he feels about affecting the city in such a way.
What’s insane is that Bruce Wayne is funding as much as he can for Gotham, acting as Batman during the night, and it’s STILL terrible to live there. If he wasn’t there? It would be Hell on Earth.
Except that doesn't help by itself. In most continuities gotham needs a mayor that's tough on crime, incorruptible and able to defend themselves against batmans rogues. That is literally only bruce, honestly bruce would make more progress doing that while also working behind the scenes with someone he could trust to be batman like Dick. Seriously bruce could tackle gothams corruption so much more effectively than I've seen him at least in adaptations.
The subject becomes a systemic issue when laws become easier to break than follow. Despite all the resources available to him, Batman never addresses the root problems resulting in all the equalities happening around him. He only tries to resolve issues on a superficial level (arresting criminals > criminals break free > arrest them again > they break free again). He's arguably the most incompetent superhero in DCU once you factor in the amount of coverage he gets in movies, shows, cartoons, etc. Gotham is still plagued with tons of crimes
To quote an Anarky Expert from an obscure Finnish cartoon called Pasila: "When the street are running with blood, that is the right time to buy apartments, they will be cheap to buy then."
Not anymore, private equity firms are the ones that swoop in to buy those properties. Wouldn't surprise me if they were the ones instigating these conditions to profit off of.
You could probably afford to buy a house outright and with how dense it is you probably have easy access to a job to (unlike the abandoned suburbs of Detroit)
The best comics are a reflection of real life. Gotham is a mirror of many large cities around the planet (not just in America). One of the reasons i like Batman. He is a grounded superhero in a relateable city with most of his villians being "street level".
you must be lying if you say the man who has mastered every martial arts, benches superhuman levels of weights, is a consistent master of multiple fields and dodges attacks superman cant is grounded, the very fact he will have a psychological break and become a mass murderer if he kills someone shows an individual who is anything but grounded. Id believe the alien like superman who acts like a logical human being is more grounded than mister "Let joker commit multiple more genocides, cause we cant let him win" at least superman greatest op is super wealthy yet this man bruce seems to donate chump change in arkham security, grounded my ass
@@durrangodsgrief6503 well, it's far more "Hey, lawful enforcement, here's Joker, this time he did A, B, C and tried to do E and F. Do your work. And don't ask me for an accident. We all know if that happened next time when you found a dead criminal or even a citizen one of your working theories would be Batman did it. And sorry I remember Bat-hunting from the beginning of my career and it was really a pain in ass."-kind of logic. No killing rule is rational and reasonable thing if you don't want to have Red Hood's kind of career. :) More shocking things are 1. state of Arkham Asylum's security 2. why the fuck is Joker sent to AA all that time... because he should be in Black Gate Prison, probably in special part of Black Gate for really problematic prisoners. ASPD doesn't mean "criminaly insane".
Why do people live in Chicago? Why LA? Also, Batman has like a hundred charities and programs that do help Gotham, but the crime is still horrible due to the super criminals. Gotham was primarily modeled after New York during the 20s. A place of lavishness, extreme wealth, organized crime powerhouses, poverty, jazz, art, and above all, abundance. Gotham is not just a crime ridden shithole, but a place with so many facets of life that anyone and everyone could see some sort of diamond in the rough.
Well, its funny but it is now an accurate depiction of some cities, like someone working 2 airport shifts because one wouldn't be enough to sustain himself and slips in a camper to already be on the job because it wouldn't be possible with commuting
@@Justforamoment0608 yes. The question of “why would anyone live in Gotham” is a sign of how lazy media consumption in the modern world has gotten. Cities are large and complex, but a story about a crime fighter will focus on where the crime takes place. However, for some reason people do not understand that reality.
Thing is unfortunately Batman isn't doing much to fight crime. Seeing as criminals never stop comitting crime and only get slaps on the wrist. Its the way things are
@@jamesricker3997No Gotham was worse after Batman. I’d rather deal with the mob than serial killer clown whose body count is in the millions. The same Clown Batman created. Serial killer super villains showed up after Batman.
Basically people can't afford to go anywhere else. They struggle just for what they have to survive. An overlooked thing that isn't shown much nowadays like in my favorite period of bat books the 70s and 80s. People are so poor that they resort to crime just to provide for their family and themselves. A fact that bats acknowledges that not all criminals are bad people, just desperate and doing everything they can to survive in this city. Many stories around this period show Batman on a case and helps someone who resorts to crime to provide for their family, or just delt a bad hand. Bruce helps them by giving them a job at Wayne enterprise.
Right becuase Joker, pengin, who ever is major, Heavy dent etc... Like the vast majority of Batmans villain are not poor... Alos the same for his thugs who I guess are paid and trewated well from the fact they love their bosses.
@@GreenBlueWalkthrough not talking about the villains. We're talking about the normal people. The 70s And 80s had a lot of more street level stories without the villains. something you don't see a lot nowadays because everything has to be a big story it seems.They where crime bosses and mob bosses. Like in paging the crime doctor. A normal guy is working for this crime doctor just to provide for his family and gets in over his head.
I imagine it's like most every other city in the real world. The people that experience the worst the city has to offer aren't able to move due to financial reasons.
Yeah, Metropolis is quite nice.... as long as you work for Luthorcorp, Star Labs, or one of the dozens of other major mega corporations that call Metropolis home. But everyone else is stuck doing the nine to five grind for peanuts. It's not as bad as in Gotham, but ordinary folks living in Metropolis are only marginally better off than your average Gothamite. But even working for the mega corps only affords you a better life if you're really smart, or you have the right connections. The only thing Metropolis has going for it over Gotham City is it's clean, high tech facade. Metropolis isn't really any better when it comes to corruption and vice at the upper levels of society, as Lex Luthor handily demonstrates.
Typically Superman is better at saving innocent lives than Batman is. So Superman villains don’t quite have as high a body count as Batman villains do. Hell, it’s been confirmed in the comics that Joker’s body count alone is higher than the entire Middle East.
Why do people live in Gotham? Why did I choose to live in Stockwell in South London?😅 Because the crime made the area dangerous but made the flat I rented sooo cheap. AND then theirs the location - Travel to work was quick & cheap because it was so close the city centre. If I wanted to, I could walk to work
there is also a comic about superman having a joker/riddler type villain and it almost broke him. he went to bruce for help. realistically unfixable gotham can exist but it is going to be so disgusting to write about. adding batman's code of ethics prevents him to purge gotham.
@@ALLmaskedI always thought Batman should stay out of the way and let the sniper take the shot on Joker. There is also the other idea that Batman should use the self defense laws and citizens arrest.
@@themightyflog one of the better takes on batman is that he is also a lunatic that doesn't want death on his watch. that's why i hated batman begins when he technically killed raz.
@@ALLmaskedBatman is canonically crazy. His mental state is factually just as messed up as any other Arkham inmate, the only difference is that the thing that’s making him insane also makes him want to help people instead.
@@louurich9087because the central island is a cursed land with a dark being who trap the best parts of its gothamites in between worlds because of their association with the cursed corruption of Gotham City Society created by its own native supernatural forces. Barbados The Bat God Doctor Gotham The Evil Warlock Deacon Blackfire The Native American Shaman The Dark Multiverse The Bat Tribe predecessors of the Batfamily The Court of Owls successors of The tribe of Judas
I forgot the video this line came from, but I’ll try to paraphrase it. “There are three types of people in Gotham: those who stay because they don’t have a choice, those that take advantage to those people, and those who want to help the helpless.”
Bludhaven was a side-concept to distract us readers from the REAL meat of the corruption. Heck, even Bruce at few points came close to embracing the face of Gotham's corruption!
@@AbrahamCasillas-t3o You will most likely be safer there, but that won't stop the criminals and villains from messing with you if they think you're important enough. They might be more effective in victimizing people since Batman doesn't usually patrol the suburbs because most of the criminal activity is in denser and more impoverished urban areas of Gotham City.
I believe ppl are still living (in the comics at least) are under the effects of one of the 7 curses palaces in gotham by different malign forces,and end up becoming attached to various degrees to the location and this influences their behaviors in a deep subconscious way making them make choices that sometimes cause them to fall back into habits that will lead them back to Gotham and the good aspects of Gotham may remain kept by the curses due to it working to attract more victims to its premises to continue its cycle of self destructive vieces, I suspect that even the bat family is under the effects of the curse because you don’t keep trusting a place as tainted by darkness as ahrkam asylum it which had a literal portal to hell opened in this basement patients got possessed by demons but Batman managed to stop its progress and trusts the ahrkam staff to not let it happen again (Ahrkam asylum)
What if someone still decided to leave Gotham on foot but rounded up as many people as possible and tried to do some sort of "Safety in Numbers" tactic, picking up anything that can be used to defend themselves (metal pipes, broken bottles etc)?
Idk why people say that about Gotham but not New York City in the Marvel Universe. In DC at least in their cities you only have to worry about 1 hero's rogues gallery (Batman villains in Gotham, Superman Villains Metropolis, Flash's in Central City etc). In Marvel almost all characters operate out of New York. So in the Marvel Universe every characters rogues gallery operates in the same city.
Rogues Galleries who are getting more depraved and ruthless as the years go by. I wonder how the Marvel Comics version of NYC still has ordinary people living in it, after what feel like weekly mega-crossover events that rack up body counts in the thousands. Seriously Marvel, pump the brakes on those things. How many did you have this year alone?
I mean, we only see Gotham through the eyes of Batman and the cops, who are the people who witness the worst of Gotham City on a day to day basis. It's like not moving to Metropolis because you only hear about all of the alien invasions and Superman fights.
I think another thing is. Change, Gotham is familiar, most people grew up there, they used to it. And for most part, they learned to live there in their way. But if they move out to let’s say. Metropolis, Cost City or Star City it means change. Which is often is a scary concept.
This question is proof that media consumption in America is getting lazier and lazier. A city is complex, and a story about crime fighting would focus on places where the crime is. Just like a story about musicians would focus on musical venues.
I agree. Only a select few depictions of Gotham have it as a giant slum with skyscrapers. We only see the older and poorer parts because that’s where most criminals are, and where it’s easier for supervillains to get away with stuff.
Answer: people have reported living an warzones that are constantly bombarded while having not so much means but also opportunity to evacuate. Humans are stubborn like that
Everything you said: And the volume of crime probably keeps rents very very low. There’s also probably a lot of stigma surrounding anyone who lives there (making it harder to find jobs outside of the city).
batman 1 million said its cursed and it'll only get worse hes from the future he came to the past for justice league tie in and told this to nightwing in passing
As someone born and raised in the city that Gotham is based on New York, you could say the same thing 😂 New York is all some people know and they can’t afford to leave so they’re perpetually stuck.
Well its the same reason why people live in Chicago or Memphis, they have no choice, and they got used to it. Yeah its scary but most people cant up and go some people cant afford it and on top of that Gotham is just like America crazy things happened in the world, we had the zodiac killer, Al capone, Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, the DC Snipers, the alphabet killer and ect. actually REAL villains in real life so what difference does it make with Gotham city? At least Gotham City has a hero protecting it we in real life dont so gotham ain't that bad in comparison 🤷
@@BlackDoveNYC *stop trying to make them sound like they're safe places bro it's corny everyone knows that Chicago and Memphis is were the DEMONS live...😂*
I live in Sao Paulo, Brazil and it is similar to Gotham in many ways. 1- even with the amount of crime, people still live there because there aren’t that many great places to live. 2- biggest city in the Americas, a lot of job opportunity, so you can gain more money on average. 3- people become desensitized to crime, after the third homicide in the week, people will just stop caring, though they will be mindful to avoid dangerous situations. 4- Rent is more expensive on average because it is extremely densely populated.
I would argue that even if some citizens in Gotham have an options to leave and live within a safer city, there’s an adrenaline rush these people get from all the excitement of anarchy. Lawlessness means you make up your own rules and that can be empowering. Also, if Gotham became more hospitable and less hostile, many who would benefit from this wouldn’t understand how to enjoy life that has so many rules/regulations. If you’re numb to a fast lifestyle, a normal life isn’t very appropriate much less appealing for your dopamine receptors. Its like asking why this woman returns to a known womanizer/abusive spouse. Some traumatic part of her past is infatuated with how dangerous, unstable and unhealthy the relationship is, this man provides spontaneity.
It’s interesting that Gotham City, with its massive population of 10 million, is even larger than New York City, making it the second largest city in DC's version of the USA. This fictional metropolis surpasses real-world New York not just in size but also in its outlandishly high crime rate and dark, gritty environment. New York today, though often cited for its high crime in the past and its reputation as a wealthy city with its fair share of challenges, doesn’t come close to the chaos and violence that seems to define Gotham. Gotham’s scale of crime and corruption surpasses even cities with high crime rates like Baltimore. Yet, somehow, it still boasts a thriving financial center and sustains a large population despite the dangers and threats surrounding daily life. One of the strangest aspects of Gotham's fictional existence is how its economy and society seem to thrive in such extreme circumstances. Investors would logically be fleeing to safer places like Metropolis instead of pouring resources into a city plagued by relentless crime. Gotham isn’t just dealing with common street crime-it’s overrun by a variety of supervillains. There’s a psychopath clown causing mass chaos, a nature-loving villain with dangerous powers, crime organizations run by a steroid-enhanced mastermind, and a sinister, umbrella-wielding mob boss. Not to mention the constant influx of petty criminals adding to the city's turmoil. Even in real-life cities with serious issues, like the Bay Area with its homelessness and theft problems, there’s still some semblance of stability. Gotham, by contrast, seems almost unsustainable with this level of dysfunction. The presence of the Justice League only adds to the surreal nature of Gotham. Despite their capabilities, they typically steer clear of Gotham’s issues, simply because Batman insists, "Don’t interfere with my city." This leaves one person-Batman-to deal with the city’s overwhelming number of villains, alongside a frequently corrupt police force. What’s even more unusual is Batman’s recruitment of young sidekicks, often teenage boys, to join him in this mission, outfitting them in spandex and training them to face Gotham’s terrifying criminals. The entire setup of Gotham, with all these elements combined, raises questions about how such a city could logically sustain itself.
Honestly? If I lived in Gotham where all I see on the news are a dude who uses venom like its a drug to break people's backs, a man with a spit personality and a coin, a petty dude in green who's obsessed with deadly riddles, a clown who thinks every sick thing you could do to someone regardless of who they are is somehow funny who's willing to get his hands on a nuke who's not afraid to harm even children who commits the same crimes everyday for the sake of it who can't seem to stay in his cell no matter how many times you put him away while you got a rich dude running around in a bat costume who likes to scare people and hide in the dark who's lowkey just as crazy as the villains he puts away I would think to myself "hey maybe I should get the f*ck up outta here" 🤷
I think the only way you could live a somewhat decent life in Gotham is if you’re a metahuman, realistically what is Two-Face going to do to you if you can shoot fire out of your hands?
To be honest. Central city is the only city in the D.C. universe where you can live a normal life without worrying about being kidnapped as a hostage for a Batman Villain, or having to evacuate because one of Superman's villains is leveling the buildings in that area. The worst you need to worry about is car and house insurance in case a bank robber tries to make a distraction for the Flash, but you are never truly in any life danger, since the villains are fucked if they kill someone.
Same reason why people still live in Chicago, Detroit, Bronx etc. Although now its a shithole, once they were historic places with a great community, industrial might and entertainment. I guess the same goes for Gotham, NJ.
Detroit isn’t a “a shithole, I know it is where I live, and neither are Chicago or the Bronx. There are just a bunch of assholes who have never been making assumptions based on the worst elements of large cities.
Well considering how old Gotham is(in literature ) it was molded after the war when cities were very cheap places to live with a lots of economic activity. That attracted a lot of people from all walks of life, not all of which come to work an honest job and make a pay check. Gotham doesn’t work in 21th center USA where a lot of artificial imposed limitations created in the mid 20th century still impact the livability of city’s today.
Because gotham is dirt cheap to live in and even live luxury. When the average one bedroom in metropolis costs 3-4 grand while gotham city you can get an entire penhpuse plus yourown car service for that price and be treated like royalty.
Batman is constantly destroying property and sending people to the hospital, straining whatever health care system Gotham has. I mean, he’s probably a net positive overall, but still. Also there are a bunch of villains that Batman indirectly created like the Joker.
I mean, why do people still live in Chicago or Baltamore or Detroit or Portland? Moving is a pain in the ass, many people lack the resources or the means to move at all, and sometimes no matter how crap a place gets... it's still home.
How was Nolan’s Batman a villain, he cleared out the city getting rid of organised crime entirely in his second year and then came back out of retirement 8 years later to put an end to the league of shadows permanently
Because the hierarchy is always changing plus nothing is regulated so it’s basically a free for all only risk is Batman. Other than that it’s not hard to establish a foot hold in Gotham
it's not like the top 2 and the 5º largest cities of the American continent are warzones with actual lines of the cities where you need authorization from the local militias to enterit's not strange at all for anyone in latin america why there is still people living in Gotham. Fun fact: in Rio there is one faction called the "Justice League", the alias of the gang leader was Batman and the militia shield is the Batman symbol, he's a ex-cop that had a partner called Robin, Batman is currently cuffed and now Robin lead the group, while they wait Batman to get out of the jail
You would think the Justice League would step in to help. Having a strong legal team would also help. But honestly, Batman's methods are outdated, and being the old man that he is, refuses to accept any help and struggles on, content in knowing HE has control over everything, regardless of how terrible it is.
The reason is most of the people there are living pay cheque to pay cheque and can’t afford to live anywhere else. I’m sure if they could, everyone would want to move to Central City
At the very least, Manhattan who often gets alien invasion, bombings, bank robbings, and insane shits still houses Spiderman, Fantastic 4, Luke Cage, Daredevil, Dr Strange, and various anti-heroes who still for the better, kill way more crime doers
Short answer, due to the constant crime property value remains at a reasonable level as inflation ravages house prices elsewhere and employment is rather lucrative if you plan to be a mook and pray that you'd just get knocked out with one punch.
The rent cheep.some people are to poor to move to new city.some turn to crime because they know they can get away with it because the system is broken.GCDP keep up demand of the high crime in the city.
I actually have a long list of reasons people still live in Gotham even why Bruce Wayne/Batman refused to leave many times when he wanted to. It is because if he leaves he will be running away and admitting defeat like every other person who gave up and got run out of town by the corrupt, the criminal or greedy landlords. The other reasons are hard to explain but if you want to hear please let me know
1:49 Typical terrorists and self-styled "revolutionaries": making things worse for the people they claim to fight FOR. 7:35 The power of theatricality. I'm sure there's a supernatural reason why Gotham City still has corruption and evil despite everything Batman and his family do. The version of Gotham in Arkham City (the Asylum itself might be haunted or under a magic curse or something) has a Lazarus Pit under it.
If rent prices cheap enough…. Shit even i’d turn a blind eye seeing joker and riddler run around….
Would you feel the same way if you saw Killer Croc eating someone in a dark alleyway on your way home from work on a Friday night?
@@Trenex1000 Depends on which artist depiction of Killer Croc I see. Is it the reptile that walks on two legs and talks, or is it just a black dude with a skin rash?
@@edselgreaves6503
The one from the Arkham games.
@@Trenex1000 Yes
@@seamusfinnegan1164
I don't blame you; you’d be surprised by what people will be willing to tolerate if housing is affordable enough.
“I got my degree and just got a job as a web developer bro! Wayne Enterprises is paying me $160k! PLUS my apartment is only $900 for 3 bedrooms, I can’t wait to go to Gotham!”
Then you accidentally jaywalk
Joker's next victim
this. opportunity blinds them to the risk.
The smart ones still go into the red because they spent most of it on guns, ammo and an IFV for the commute to work.
@@spaceengineeringempire4086Batman doesn’t really go after petty crime he goes after those that victimize others make them fear something like people fear the criminals criminals fear the bat because the police don’t protect the common person fear is that protection the common law abiding people don’t need to fear
The city is literally cursed. Being born in Gotham is basically starting life on expert mode.
Also, when R. Kelly dedicated a whole track to the place, you know it's cooked.
And it was built on a waste cesspool
And being Born in Metropolis is easy ??
I'd rather live in Central City
@@ineedpowers5151 no that place is actually worse, but Gotham got that dark gothic esthetic and metropis got that city of the future and daytime soft esthetic, so people think Gotham is worse. all you need is a gun in Gotham and your fine
@@jameslight4391"all you need is a gun in Gotham and you are fine", killer croc surviving shotgun blasts like he is getting hit by a pillow
I always thought it would be kinda fun to have a side story about a perfectly normal average law abiding citizen in Gotham who just walks around wearing a scary mask. He's not a villain, but wearing the mask makes other criminals think he's a villain so they leave him alone.
Like he's an introvert so he enjoys being left alone not having to deal with small talk, and if he does need to talk to someone he can just take it off. How one day he walks into a convenient store forgetting to take off the mask and has to calm the cashier down and explain everything. How he may accidentally start a trend of wearing scary masks and how that trend becomes another part of Gotham's criminal ecosystem, and how he feels about affecting the city in such a way.
That's a nice idea
thats sicc!
Fanfiction writers assemble
@@berkaltuglu8140 here
sounds like a pretty cool idea for a small comic
Person: Why do you live in Gotham?
Person 2: It's called being broke.
A College Student working part time looking at those 2
"Thanks for reminding me why I live in this Hell" 😡
What’s insane is that Bruce Wayne is funding as much as he can for Gotham, acting as Batman during the night, and it’s STILL terrible to live there. If he wasn’t there? It would be Hell on Earth.
Worse. People complain he doesn't do enough even when they know he is doing both.
Except that doesn't help by itself. In most continuities gotham needs a mayor that's tough on crime, incorruptible and able to defend themselves against batmans rogues. That is literally only bruce, honestly bruce would make more progress doing that while also working behind the scenes with someone he could trust to be batman like Dick. Seriously bruce could tackle gothams corruption so much more effectively than I've seen him at least in adaptations.
The subject becomes a systemic issue when laws become easier to break than follow. Despite all the resources available to him, Batman never addresses the root problems resulting in all the equalities happening around him. He only tries to resolve issues on a superficial level (arresting criminals > criminals break free > arrest them again > they break free again). He's arguably the most incompetent superhero in DCU once you factor in the amount of coverage he gets in movies, shows, cartoons, etc. Gotham is still plagued with tons of crimes
Nah, Gotham would eventually collapse like it should
To quote an Anarky Expert from an obscure Finnish cartoon called Pasila: "When the street are running with blood, that is the right time to buy apartments, they will be cheap to buy then."
what episode was that? I've been trying to rewatch Pasila but never got to it
@@SilverGamingFI Salaviina. Season 2, episode 6.
I brought this up to my father who used to watch it religiously, and now he is playing it in front of me.
Not anymore, private equity firms are the ones that swoop in to buy those properties. Wouldn't surprise me if they were the ones instigating these conditions to profit off of.
Thats was actually one of the rothschilds. “When theres blood in the streets.” Bought up many building during the French Revolution
Due to the amount of crime in gotham, rent is most definitely cheap ass hell
You could probably afford to buy a house outright and with how dense it is you probably have easy access to a job to (unlike the abandoned suburbs of Detroit)
Here in São Paulo rent is sky high and so it’s crime
The best comics are a reflection of real life. Gotham is a mirror of many large cities around the planet (not just in America). One of the reasons i like Batman. He is a grounded superhero in a relateable city with most of his villians being "street level".
My guy Gotham literally resembles a lot of cities in the country I live in
you must be lying if you say the man who has mastered every martial arts, benches superhuman levels of weights, is a consistent master of multiple fields and dodges attacks superman cant is grounded, the very fact he will have a psychological break and become a mass murderer if he kills someone shows an individual who is anything but grounded. Id believe the alien like superman who acts like a logical human being is more grounded than mister "Let joker commit multiple more genocides, cause we cant let him win" at least superman greatest op is super wealthy yet this man bruce seems to donate chump change in arkham security, grounded my ass
The Batman kick the specter in the face and survive a big bang
It might be 80 years old,but still my favorite fictional Universe lol
@@durrangodsgrief6503 well, it's far more "Hey, lawful enforcement, here's Joker, this time he did A, B, C and tried to do E and F. Do your work. And don't ask me for an accident. We all know if that happened next time when you found a dead criminal or even a citizen one of your working theories would be Batman did it. And sorry I remember Bat-hunting from the beginning of my career and it was really a pain in ass."-kind of logic.
No killing rule is rational and reasonable thing if you don't want to have Red Hood's kind of career. :)
More shocking things are
1. state of Arkham Asylum's security
2. why the fuck is Joker sent to AA all that time... because he should be in Black Gate Prison, probably in special part of Black Gate for really problematic prisoners. ASPD doesn't mean "criminaly insane".
Why do people live in Chicago? Why LA? Also, Batman has like a hundred charities and programs that do help Gotham, but the crime is still horrible due to the super criminals.
Gotham was primarily modeled after New York during the 20s. A place of lavishness, extreme wealth, organized crime powerhouses, poverty, jazz, art, and above all, abundance. Gotham is not just a crime ridden shithole, but a place with so many facets of life that anyone and everyone could see some sort of diamond in the rough.
Newark
@@theman9048 yeah it’s not modeled off Newark.
@@sullivandmitry1416 Chicago isn’t that bad if you avoid certain areas
Well, its funny but it is now an accurate depiction of some cities, like someone working 2 airport shifts because one wouldn't be enough to sustain himself and slips in a camper to already be on the job because it wouldn't be possible with commuting
This is what people forget.
crime pops up around prosperity.
Yeah and it shows when penguin and Victor were going to the subway and you see a subway car derailed near the platform.
So cool to see you doing DC content on this channel as well
Because they have no choice?
Move ?
@themachine1679 if you live in gotham you're poor you can't just go. And where would you go bludhaven?
@@TubiTuesdaysthere’s hella rich people in Gotham isn’t it
@@Justforamoment0608 and they exploit the system to stay rich. They have no reason to leave
@@Justforamoment0608 yes. The question of “why would anyone live in Gotham” is a sign of how lazy media consumption in the modern world has gotten.
Cities are large and complex, but a story about a crime fighter will focus on where the crime takes place.
However, for some reason people do not understand that reality.
Basically “why live in nyc in 2024” 💀
Damn 😂
I live here, it’s incredible.
Sorry if you’re little midwestern town sucks :(
@@drizzleprism5826 I live on Long Island 💀💀💀
@@drizzleprism5826 name one good thing about nyc aside from the pizza
Are you serious?
There’s literally thousands of things this city does well.
Have you ever been here?
Gotham makes Birmingham look like a paradise
What is there in Birmingham??
@@ineedpowers5151 it's Gotham if batman didn't exist
UK or Alabama?
Thing is unfortunately Batman isn't doing much to fight crime. Seeing as criminals never stop comitting crime and only get slaps on the wrist. Its the way things are
You aren't familiar with how bad Gotham was before Batman showed up
@@jamesricker3997gotham needed batman
Without Batman, things get much worse.
@@jamesricker3997No Gotham was worse after Batman. I’d rather deal with the mob than serial killer clown whose body count is in the millions. The same Clown Batman created. Serial killer super villains showed up after Batman.
@@twinodoomThey got worst me after Batman showed up and created The Joker. Joker has killed more people than the Falcones combined ever could
Basically people can't afford to go anywhere else. They struggle just for what they have to survive. An overlooked thing that isn't shown much nowadays like in my favorite period of bat books the 70s and 80s. People are so poor that they resort to crime just to provide for their family and themselves. A fact that bats acknowledges that not all criminals are bad people, just desperate and doing everything they can to survive in this city. Many stories around this period show Batman on a case and helps someone who resorts to crime to provide for their family, or just delt a bad hand. Bruce helps them by giving them a job at Wayne enterprise.
Right becuase Joker, pengin, who ever is major, Heavy dent etc... Like the vast majority of Batmans villain are not poor... Alos the same for his thugs who I guess are paid and trewated well from the fact they love their bosses.
@@GreenBlueWalkthrough not talking about the villains. We're talking about the normal people. The 70s And 80s had a lot of more street level stories without the villains. something you don't see a lot nowadays because everything has to be a big story it seems.They where crime bosses and mob bosses. Like in paging the crime doctor. A normal guy is working for this crime doctor just to provide for his family and gets in over his head.
I imagine it's like most every other city in the real world. The people that experience the worst the city has to offer aren't able to move due to financial reasons.
Its a damn good question.....metropolis aways seems quite nice
Yeah, Metropolis is quite nice.... as long as you work for Luthorcorp, Star Labs, or one of the dozens of other major mega corporations that call Metropolis home. But everyone else is stuck doing the nine to five grind for peanuts. It's not as bad as in Gotham, but ordinary folks living in Metropolis are only marginally better off than your average Gothamite. But even working for the mega corps only affords you a better life if you're really smart, or you have the right connections.
The only thing Metropolis has going for it over Gotham City is it's clean, high tech facade. Metropolis isn't really any better when it comes to corruption and vice at the upper levels of society, as Lex Luthor handily demonstrates.
Typically Superman is better at saving innocent lives than Batman is. So Superman villains don’t quite have as high a body count as Batman villains do. Hell, it’s been confirmed in the comics that Joker’s body count alone is higher than the entire Middle East.
Apparently you have never heard of the Metropolis neighborhood called “Suicide Slum.”
@@louurich9087 Sill people move to Japan IRL despite it being Suicidelanjd from all the stuff that makes Metropolis bad...
The you gotta put up with alien invaders and supercrimnals who show up just to pick a fight with Superman.
Why do people live in Gotham? Why did I choose to live in Stockwell in South London?😅
Because the crime made the area dangerous but made the flat I rented sooo cheap. AND then theirs the location - Travel to work was quick & cheap because it was so close the city centre. If I wanted to, I could walk to work
😂😂they call it stockhell for a reason glad I left London and never looked back
What is Batman even accomplishing after all these years? Flash and Superman got their cities on the up and up.
Superman and Flash have the powers of a God. Batman is just a depressed rich boy
there is also a comic about superman having a joker/riddler type villain and it almost broke him. he went to bruce for help.
realistically unfixable gotham can exist but it is going to be so disgusting to write about. adding batman's code of ethics prevents him to purge gotham.
@@ALLmaskedI always thought Batman should stay out of the way and let the sniper take the shot on Joker. There is also the other idea that Batman should use the self defense laws and citizens arrest.
@@themightyflog one of the better takes on batman is that he is also a lunatic that doesn't want death on his watch. that's why i hated batman begins when he technically killed raz.
@@ALLmaskedBatman is canonically crazy. His mental state is factually just as messed up as any other Arkham inmate, the only difference is that the thing that’s making him insane also makes him want to help people instead.
Saying "Chose to live and stay" might be an overstatement.
Because they're trapped their by supernatural forces
I mean… it IS located on an intersection between Detroit & Hell
@@lyokianhitchhikerwhy would a nexus between heaven and hell be a problem?
@@louurich9087 I was referring to New Jersey
@@louurich9087because the central island is a cursed land with a dark being who trap the best parts of its gothamites in between worlds because of their association with the cursed corruption of Gotham City Society created by its own native supernatural forces.
Barbados The Bat God
Doctor Gotham The Evil Warlock
Deacon Blackfire The Native American Shaman
The Dark Multiverse
The Bat Tribe predecessors of the Batfamily
The Court of Owls successors of The tribe of Judas
Didn't watch the video but I'll answer the question. The same reason why any person lives somewhere that isn't a paradise: poverty.
Low rent?
The same reason why people still live in Chicago in real life lbs.
And Puerto Rico. It's not why they live there. It's that they have no choice but to live there.
You’re ignorant
Chicago has fantastic weather.
@@arx3516 lol is that sarcasm?
Do you guys really think Chicago is as bad?🤣I never been to NYC or LA but they are for sure even worse than Chicago!
I forgot the video this line came from, but I’ll try to paraphrase it. “There are three types of people in Gotham: those who stay because they don’t have a choice, those that take advantage to those people, and those who want to help the helpless.”
Gotham City was literally a city of chaos.....before Batman came in.
And after…
So batman is as effective as a fart in the wind
He did fuel the chaos more tho, in the riddler comics and movie, he said he has the balls to do crimes because of Batman.
Bludhaven was a side-concept to distract us readers from the REAL meat of the corruption. Heck, even Bruce at few points came close to embracing the face of Gotham's corruption!
Corruption is still rampant and has one of the biggest criminals!
Same reason I still live in the suburbs of Houston. I can't afford to move & just living here & maintaining my car eats up what little I have.
You literally couldn't pay me to live in Gotham
You’d be surprised what some people are willing to tolerate if housing is affordable enough, especially nowadays.
Not even for 10.000.000 per day?
How about the suburbs?
@@AbrahamCasillas-t3o
You will most likely be safer there, but that won't stop the criminals and villains from messing with you if they think you're important enough. They might be more effective in victimizing people since Batman doesn't usually patrol the suburbs because most of the criminal activity is in denser and more impoverished urban areas of Gotham City.
@@Trenex1000 Joker man, what do you do with all your money?
I believe ppl are still living (in the comics at least) are under the effects of one of the 7 curses palaces in gotham by different malign forces,and end up becoming attached to various degrees to the location and this influences their behaviors in a deep subconscious way making them make choices that sometimes cause them to fall back into habits that will lead them back to Gotham and the good aspects of Gotham may remain kept by the curses due to it working to attract more victims to its premises to continue its cycle of self destructive vieces, I suspect that even the bat family is under the effects of the curse because you don’t keep trusting a place as tainted by darkness as ahrkam asylum it which had a literal portal to hell opened in this basement patients got possessed by demons but Batman managed to stop its progress and trusts the ahrkam staff to not let it happen again
(Ahrkam asylum)
What is the comic/lore source for this?
Arkham asylum living hell
There's going to be way more than just seven curses on Gotham
What if someone still decided to leave Gotham on foot but rounded up as many people as possible and tried to do some sort of "Safety in Numbers" tactic, picking up anything that can be used to defend themselves (metal pipes, broken bottles etc)?
It being *Gotham* somebody is going to confuse that with something else...
@@nicholashodges201 возможно все банды готэма изначально создавались как комманды для выхода их него.
Fun Fact: Canonically, Gotham City is located in New Jersey.
“Whoever you are you must have grown up rich.”
I’ve always wondered this and I’m finally going to have an answer after all these years!! 😂
Penguin in a comic once said: technically our crime rate is lower then in Metropolis
Thanks for the answer and I want you to post DC content as much as the Monsterverse Kaiju,, Marvel, and also possibly the Transformers content.😁
Idk why people say that about Gotham but not New York City in the Marvel Universe. In DC at least in their cities you only have to worry about 1 hero's rogues gallery (Batman villains in Gotham, Superman Villains Metropolis, Flash's in Central City etc). In Marvel almost all characters operate out of New York. So in the Marvel Universe every characters rogues gallery operates in the same city.
Rogues Galleries who are getting more depraved and ruthless as the years go by. I wonder how the Marvel Comics version of NYC still has ordinary people living in it, after what feel like weekly mega-crossover events that rack up body counts in the thousands. Seriously Marvel, pump the brakes on those things. How many did you have this year alone?
How do they keep rebuilding NYC in the comics when several city blocks are leveled every month?
I mean, we only see Gotham through the eyes of Batman and the cops, who are the people who witness the worst of Gotham City on a day to day basis. It's like not moving to Metropolis because you only hear about all of the alien invasions and Superman fights.
You know the rap coming from Gotham would be fire
I think another thing is. Change, Gotham is familiar, most people grew up there, they used to it. And for most part, they learned to live there in their way. But if they move out to let’s say. Metropolis, Cost City or Star City it means change. Which is often is a scary concept.
Can you explain someone like Dr. Leslie Thompkins who apparently walked between both worlds but chose to work in the low places?
Probably because of human instinct to start a new life when life gets really bad
I live in Karachi, Pakistan. I think gotham might be an upgrade for me.
This question is proof that media consumption in America is getting lazier and lazier.
A city is complex, and a story about crime fighting would focus on places where the crime is. Just like a story about musicians would focus on musical venues.
I agree. Only a select few depictions of Gotham have it as a giant slum with skyscrapers. We only see the older and poorer parts because that’s where most criminals are, and where it’s easier for supervillains to get away with stuff.
@@g.williams2047 It'd be interesting to more developed parts of gotham, like a middle class version of Gotham.
Answer: people have reported living an warzones that are constantly bombarded while having not so much means but also opportunity to evacuate. Humans are stubborn like that
Everything you said: And the volume of crime probably keeps rents very very low. There’s also probably a lot of stigma surrounding anyone who lives there (making it harder to find jobs outside of the city).
batman 1 million said its cursed and it'll only get worse hes from the future he came to the past for justice league tie in and told this to nightwing in passing
As someone born and raised in the city that Gotham is based on New York, you could say the same thing 😂 New York is all some people know and they can’t afford to leave so they’re perpetually stuck.
No. People actually want to live in new york. They aren't stuck
Next up, "why doesn't the federal government intervene?"
No Man's Land.
The same question I ask people living in LA and Chicago
Why would anyone live in Gotham?
Me: Who said we wanted to live here? 🙏😭
5:52 So it’s basically Las Vegas Nevada or anywhere out in the old Wild West, That’s what Gotham is.
Or an exaggerated nyc aka what people who live in smaller cities/towns think nyc is.
@@saeedboynes7129 I agree
Well its the same reason why people live in Chicago or Memphis, they have no choice, and they got used to it. Yeah its scary but most people cant up and go some people cant afford it and on top of that Gotham is just like America crazy things happened in the world, we had the zodiac killer, Al capone, Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, the DC Snipers, the alphabet killer and ect. actually REAL villains in real life so what difference does it make with Gotham city? At least Gotham City has a hero protecting it we in real life dont so gotham ain't that bad in comparison 🤷
So you’ve lived in Chicago or Memphis? Or are you just going by what you’ve heard?
@@BlackDoveNYC *stop trying to make them sound like they're safe places bro it's corny everyone knows that Chicago and Memphis is were the DEMONS live...😂*
@enigma7310 u obviously don't know anything about these places
Gotham & bludhaven
I live in Sao Paulo, Brazil and it is similar to Gotham in many ways.
1- even with the amount of crime, people still live there because there aren’t that many great places to live.
2- biggest city in the Americas, a lot of job opportunity, so you can gain more money on average.
3- people become desensitized to crime, after the third homicide in the week, people will just stop caring, though they will be mindful to avoid dangerous situations.
4- Rent is more expensive on average because it is extremely densely populated.
Basically goth Brazil.
It's the same reason why people still live in new york and Detroit
Gotham is a depiction of NYC in the 70s during its recession and most violent decade. People still lived in NYC in the 70s while this was happening.
I always assumed the housing was much cheaper than a place in a city of that size usually is.
Gotham is basically NYC in the real world
I would argue that even if some citizens in Gotham have an options to leave and live within a safer city, there’s an adrenaline rush these people get from all the excitement of anarchy. Lawlessness means you make up your own rules and that can be empowering. Also, if Gotham became more hospitable and less hostile, many who would benefit from this wouldn’t understand how to enjoy life that has so many rules/regulations. If you’re numb to a fast lifestyle, a normal life isn’t very appropriate much less appealing for your dopamine receptors. Its like asking why this woman returns to a known womanizer/abusive spouse. Some traumatic part of her past is infatuated with how dangerous, unstable and unhealthy the relationship is, this man provides spontaneity.
This video taught me that Gotham is literally the precursor to Night City.
It’s interesting that Gotham City, with its massive population of 10 million, is even larger than New York City, making it the second largest city in DC's version of the USA. This fictional metropolis surpasses real-world New York not just in size but also in its outlandishly high crime rate and dark, gritty environment. New York today, though often cited for its high crime in the past and its reputation as a wealthy city with its fair share of challenges, doesn’t come close to the chaos and violence that seems to define Gotham. Gotham’s scale of crime and corruption surpasses even cities with high crime rates like Baltimore. Yet, somehow, it still boasts a thriving financial center and sustains a large population despite the dangers and threats surrounding daily life.
One of the strangest aspects of Gotham's fictional existence is how its economy and society seem to thrive in such extreme circumstances. Investors would logically be fleeing to safer places like Metropolis instead of pouring resources into a city plagued by relentless crime. Gotham isn’t just dealing with common street crime-it’s overrun by a variety of supervillains. There’s a psychopath clown causing mass chaos, a nature-loving villain with dangerous powers, crime organizations run by a steroid-enhanced mastermind, and a sinister, umbrella-wielding mob boss. Not to mention the constant influx of petty criminals adding to the city's turmoil. Even in real-life cities with serious issues, like the Bay Area with its homelessness and theft problems, there’s still some semblance of stability. Gotham, by contrast, seems almost unsustainable with this level of dysfunction.
The presence of the Justice League only adds to the surreal nature of Gotham. Despite their capabilities, they typically steer clear of Gotham’s issues, simply because Batman insists, "Don’t interfere with my city." This leaves one person-Batman-to deal with the city’s overwhelming number of villains, alongside a frequently corrupt police force. What’s even more unusual is Batman’s recruitment of young sidekicks, often teenage boys, to join him in this mission, outfitting them in spandex and training them to face Gotham’s terrifying criminals. The entire setup of Gotham, with all these elements combined, raises questions about how such a city could logically sustain itself.
This pretty much explains why a lot of people just can’t pick up everything and move. It’s not that easy.
Here’s the thing, Gotham is just NYC but more obvious crime because super villains
Honestly? If I lived in Gotham where all I see on the news are a dude who uses venom like its a drug to break people's backs, a man with a spit personality and a coin, a petty dude in green who's obsessed with deadly riddles, a clown who thinks every sick thing you could do to someone regardless of who they are is somehow funny who's willing to get his hands on a nuke who's not afraid to harm even children who commits the same crimes everyday for the sake of it who can't seem to stay in his cell no matter how many times you put him away while you got a rich dude running around in a bat costume who likes to scare people and hide in the dark who's lowkey just as crazy as the villains he puts away I would think to myself "hey maybe I should get the f*ck up outta here" 🤷
"Decent people shouldn't live here. They'd be happier someplace else." -Jack Napier
I think the only way you could live a somewhat decent life in Gotham is if you’re a metahuman, realistically what is Two-Face going to do to you if you can shoot fire out of your hands?
To be honest. Central city is the only city in the D.C. universe where you can live a normal life without worrying about being kidnapped as a hostage for a Batman Villain, or having to evacuate because one of Superman's villains is leveling the buildings in that area.
The worst you need to worry about is car and house insurance in case a bank robber tries to make a distraction for the Flash, but you are never truly in any life danger, since the villains are fucked if they kill someone.
Same reason why people still live in Chicago, Detroit, Bronx etc. Although now its a shithole, once they were historic places with a great community, industrial might and entertainment.
I guess the same goes for Gotham, NJ.
Detroit isn’t a “a shithole, I know it is where I live, and neither are Chicago or the Bronx.
There are just a bunch of assholes who have never been making assumptions based on the worst elements of large cities.
According to the Halloween saga, Batman ended most of the mafia, getting replaced with the costume wearing supervillains and Penguin
Ambiance
Well considering how old Gotham is(in literature ) it was molded after the war when cities were very cheap places to live with a lots of economic activity. That attracted a lot of people from all walks of life, not all of which come to work an honest job and make a pay check.
Gotham doesn’t work in 21th center USA where a lot of artificial imposed limitations created in the mid 20th century still impact the livability of city’s today.
If Punisher came to Gotham, he'd solve a majority of their problems in a single night.
Red Hood couldnt so neither can he
@@rezokiladze2334 Red Hood isn't Punisher.
@@TheMadLeprechaun I'm not doing this with you
There was a comic that covered that. Batman had to save Joker because Punisher was going to blow his brains out and Joker stopped laughing.
Nope, that city is curse
The only thing he can do is keep it at bay
Because gotham is dirt cheap to live in and even live luxury.
When the average one bedroom in metropolis costs 3-4 grand while gotham city you can get an entire penhpuse plus yourown car service for that price and be treated like royalty.
I live in Los Angeles in 2024 and this title hit me pretty hard. Gonna try to figure some things out first but I’ll watch this video soon
Batman is constantly destroying property and sending people to the hospital, straining whatever health care system Gotham has. I mean, he’s probably a net positive overall, but still. Also there are a bunch of villains that Batman indirectly created like the Joker.
And how could he prevent it ?
I mean, why do people still live in Chicago or Baltamore or Detroit or Portland? Moving is a pain in the ass, many people lack the resources or the means to move at all, and sometimes no matter how crap a place gets... it's still home.
Batman is the biggest villain of Gotham City. Specifically Nolan and Matt Reeves Batman.
How was Nolan’s Batman a villain, he cleared out the city getting rid of organised crime entirely in his second year and then came back out of retirement 8 years later to put an end to the league of shadows permanently
Because the hierarchy is always changing plus nothing is regulated so it’s basically a free for all only risk is Batman. Other than that it’s not hard to establish a foot hold in Gotham
If only batman was not in love with the clown.
it's not like the top 2 and the 5º largest cities of the American continent are warzones with actual lines of the cities where you need authorization from the local militias to enterit's not strange at all for anyone in latin america why there is still people living in Gotham.
Fun fact: in Rio there is one faction called the "Justice League", the alias of the gang leader was Batman and the militia shield is the Batman symbol, he's a ex-cop that had a partner called Robin, Batman is currently cuffed and now Robin lead the group, while they wait Batman to get out of the jail
You would think the Justice League would step in to help. Having a strong legal team would also help. But honestly, Batman's methods are outdated, and being the old man that he is, refuses to accept any help and struggles on, content in knowing HE has control over everything, regardless of how terrible it is.
The reason is most of the people there are living pay cheque to pay cheque and can’t afford to live anywhere else. I’m sure if they could, everyone would want to move to Central City
At the very least, Manhattan who often gets alien invasion, bombings, bank robbings, and insane shits still houses Spiderman, Fantastic 4, Luke Cage, Daredevil, Dr Strange, and various anti-heroes who still for the better, kill way more crime doers
I want more that batman lore .
Short answer, due to the constant crime property value remains at a reasonable level as inflation ravages house prices elsewhere and employment is rather lucrative if you plan to be a mook and pray that you'd just get knocked out with one punch.
The next upload will be "How are there starving people when cake and wine exists?"
Great! Now replace Gotham City with New York City.
The rent cheep.some people are to poor to move to new city.some turn to crime because they know they can get away with it because the system is broken.GCDP keep up demand of the high crime in the city.
I mean if batman wanted to could just give flash a call a d all the criminals will be locked up in the prison.🤣
I mean... Rent has to be dirt cheap, you could probably get a two person apartment for 25 cents and some pocket lint.
Same reason people live in urban hell nowadays, and where the opportunity is
Metropolis- New York during the day
Gotham- New York at night
Basically Atlanta!
My guess is that it's the same as living in Night City from Cyberpunk.
It's not the best but it's the best one you got
it's free real estate!!!!. jk, but it's probably extremely cheap
Some people leave and some people move in
I actually have a long list of reasons people still live in Gotham even why Bruce Wayne/Batman refused to leave many times when he wanted to.
It is because if he leaves he will be running away and admitting defeat like every other person who gave up and got run out of town by the corrupt, the criminal or greedy landlords.
The other reasons are hard to explain but if you want to hear please let me know
1:49 Typical terrorists and self-styled "revolutionaries": making things worse for the people they claim to fight FOR.
7:35 The power of theatricality.
I'm sure there's a supernatural reason why Gotham City still has corruption and evil despite everything Batman and his family do. The version of Gotham in Arkham City (the Asylum itself might be haunted or under a magic curse or something) has a Lazarus Pit under it.