Thank you so much for your help. The past few months my healing has improved a lot because of your videos. I find your explanation of spell choices, self-buffs, and priorities especially helpful. The part I still struggle with the most is my gear choices. I hang on to many items "just in case" they're useful or I'll need that stat. My trinkets also aren't great. Keep up the good work, I look forward to the content! Starting Mythic Augur today
Been subbed to this channel for a while now, even though I main a shammy I always feel I learn something new witch each video you release! Great content friend!
Hey Jack, I just had to switch roles for my guilds needs, just wanted to say that your videos have been such a help, thanks for taking the time to put these out. I've found Priest healing to be somewhat challenging, the information in your videos has really helped.
The ball that I picked up at precisely that moment, you can see the purple ball weakaura in the top left of my screen, increases my mana regen when picked up on the tichondrius fight. Its essential for that encounter.
hey Jak ! great videos love ur channel! Have a question, Im 900 ilevel , and I was wondering if the 4set bonus for holy is worth it, I end up loosing 600 and lowers my haste to 9% if i wanna have my 4set bonus cause the glove set piece is 875 vs my 905 non set piece i have.
I'm using 925 PoH and Renew relics in Holy slots and 905 Say Your Prayers in Life slot. Most of the time ilvl will be key, relics are not very polarizing for HPriest. Theres definitely a priority, listed in my guides, but more often than not it will come down to item level gains.
Usually I'm holding onto Sanct quite a bit in frost phase until the frost adds come out then I usually just drop it down in melee when damage appears. Most of frost phase is single target heals though.
I also had one more question, that like i just can't figure out for myself, i have 9 legendary's for holy excluding sephuz, Obviously its Cape Velens as the god tier raiding set, but there has to be a fight where pants are just simply better, are you familiar?
I find myself playing a lot better when my UI is not nearly as busy as yours. At this point, I don't use WeakAuras at all but I realize that I'm not hitting my cooldowns nearly as well as I should. As a holy priest, what would be your "absolutely have to have" weak auras for raiding? Are there other UI elements which you suggest every single healer should have?
Q Woodmansee there's always minimalist options for Weakauras! HWords/PoM/LoT are most of the must haves. The weakaura I linked above that shows raid cds I definitely would say is a must have as well.
Like he said in the video, Prayer of mending/power word shield(haste based cds), holy words, proc based buffs, trinket cds, anything that you think you should be paying attention to.
Hey Jak! Do you think it is a good idea to use trail of light/surge of light/apo on mythic aluriel, if we're having trouble healing debuffed people on first phase?
I'd take Trail but not Surge or Apoth. Sounds more like your other healers aren't helping out on the targets or something. How many healers do you have?>
I'd worry about that when you're consistently past the frost phase and running oom later on. You should be able to leytorrent after the arcane phase ends without an issue.
can i comment that for mythic gul'dan surely it's better to pop guaridan on the target then leap of faith them out of the bonds to you? i feel likes its quicker, and you dont take any damage or have any downtime from moving. also your thing about healing tank even if sanc is up, and you can get a good sanc, if the tanks are low taking a lot of damage... holy word sanc actually does substantially more healing especially with 2 set than flash heal to a single target(475% of spell power for flash heal, and 600% to each target for sanc). not to mention the divinity bonus, and the fact it is instant cast. as such i think you should just pop sanc on melee group, and let it heal tanks.
The bonds on mythic detonate when the player with bonds leaves the bond radius. On heroic it detonates when the target reaches their end point, I was referring to mythic. Its more efficient to hold off on your aoe heal and guarantee a heal on the relevant target, especially if there is a large boss separating your line of sight to them. Again its all situation
is velens trinket the best trinket overall for holy and disc? and if i get it would u reccomend me going with velens and prydaz or velens and rammals cuz i got prydaz and rammal and i trying to get velens, also is 11k crit too much? i am using a crit stat stick because i like to have high crit sitting at 11k crit 7kish master and 6kish haste
Velens is the best yes. My legendary rankings are listed in my guides on wowhead but yes I'd definitely go prydaz over rammaals. I'd go for a bit more Mastery in gems/enchants but you should be fine.
You mention breaking chains with 1 other person with GS on mythic gul'dan. I've tried this twice in the past week and it did not work either time. One time it was with a shadow priest who used disperse as well, still no go.
Hey Jak, have been running Cloak and Legs since forever on my Hpriest but recently dropped Velen's. How much better than Legs is this? I really love not having to think about the passive bonus on the legs, do you have to utilize the Use effect expertly to make the trinket better or are the stats just passively almost on par?
In so many ways the Velens trinket is far and away better than the legs. It will take practice to use effectively but it is well worth it to use over the legs
I guess it should always be used together with hymn, should you otherwise try to use it basically on CD or save it for big damage? Obviously you dont use it when everyone's at 100% but.
My biggest struggle with my HPS is we have a mistweaver who seems to snipe heals like a mad mans. Our heal comp is shammy, Druid, holy priest, and mistweaver. With this comp would it be more beneficial to swap my holy priest and gear up my holy pally? I just feel like me and the monk counter each other in our healing styles or something. When either of us aren't healing we skyrocket in hps, but only when it is one of us not one of the other 2 swapping. Any advice would help, also I am going to steal your CD weak aura that shows everyone's.
Anytime you have two healers, regardless of spec, that are more effective than others it will inevitably lower your HPS. Healing is a zero sum game, there's only so much healing to go around so it is perfectly natural for healers to reduce each other's throughput.
this week when we were fighting Gul'dan and he used bonds of fel , I and a other raid member were targeted, and died regardless we had guardian spirit. Since we started raiding in NH, I used my guardian spirit here and we could just run out of the bonds of fel. For science i tried it a second time and again I died , even if I had guardian spirit on me. Any ideas? cheers and keep it up Jak :)
Some other comments mentioned this as well, if you have any logs of the death I'd love to see them I've submitted my report to a buddy so we're hoping to get this resolved asap :)
Also does not work for Befoulment and Heavenly Crash, but I don't know if it ever did - from the tooltip it sure sounds like it should! Seems all these split damage AoEs are bugged for GS.
Do you think holy priests need a dr? We have guardian but tonight in a +12 brh I i used guardian and shadow volley from last boss still goes through and killed me and many one shots do this what do you do when these situations come?
Yeah, I think guardian should have some mitigation on it, yeah there is perseverance on 30 talent tree but having to choose 10% mitgation over feathers is really rough. Guardian is bad because its really unreliable allot of 1 shots will go through. Usually people look at guardian for its flat 40% bonus so you can really just 1 heal the tank with serenity. I'm just annoyed when I hear "everyone use mitigation" and Im stuck here without anyway to use one. I shouldn't have to save guardian for myself in certain fights just for it to not work.
Im a holy priest, I have Xanshi and belt legendaries. But idk it is better for raid healing to use xanshi and Muze or xanshi and Rammal. What is your opinion? i have that 4 legendaries. Mastery at 45%. Crit at 24% and Haste at 13% with cloak and belt.
last week i imported some strings, there was a shadow string instead of the holy, what the string was saying. And the Discstring doesnt even find it (VuuhDo) :( but thx mate
Another awesome video Jak! One thing though, I believe that they have stealth nerfed GS so that it is no longer usable to solo break empowered bonds on Gul'Dan. I posted something in the bug report about it on the blizz forums here: us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20754015893#post-1 If you have a moment, would you mind looking at the log I have posted there & tell me if I am reading it incorrectly?
Yep it seems to be bugged. Another person in the comments mentioned it as well and it screwed me over on Guldan last night. I mentioned it to a buddy so hopefully we'll get some clarification on it!
Heey nice adivce in the videos. But i got a question i cant seem to be improving my healing. i have done the heroic riad etc but our raid team seems to be having problems with elisande but beside that. I dont know how to improve and i would like if you can could add me on bnet so if you have time and want to. maybe check my log where im going wrong. Bnet is knetje #2407. thx in advance
If you want to join Discord or check out the stream I can find some time to check over your logs. I get asked a lot so usually I just try to check logs for people when im streaming.
that would be great give me a channel and il check it out. what is just see is that you use the same spells as i use only you use heal a lot more i need to figure it out
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Thank you so much for your help. The past few months my healing has improved a lot because of your videos. I find your explanation of spell choices, self-buffs, and priorities especially helpful. The part I still struggle with the most is my gear choices. I hang on to many items "just in case" they're useful or I'll need that stat. My trinkets also aren't great. Keep up the good work, I look forward to the content! Starting Mythic Augur today
I always hang on to pieces forever as well lol. Its not a bad thing to be safe with them! Good luck on Augur :D
Been subbed to this channel for a while now, even though I main a shammy I always feel I learn something new witch each video you release! Great content friend!
Hey Jack, I just had to switch roles for my guilds needs, just wanted to say that your videos have been such a help, thanks for taking the time to put these out. I've found Priest healing to be somewhat challenging, the information in your videos has really helped.
Glad to hear it! :D
Really solid advice Jack as is tradition with your videos :) Keep up the great work!! :)
Recently found your channel and I keep coming back to watch your videos, greetings from Germany! Please keep going, xoxo ^_^
Thanks so much! Glad they've been helpful :D
"For the most part, most of the healers are very, very turrety"
Yea... I'm salty about Druids and their movement too.
What's the add on to have all the character names in the middle of the screen? Prob a dumb question but I don't know so xD
Awesome video! was wondering if you could link your weak auras as they are now horizontal and not vertical, looks cool
The ones in the middle of my screen are made by Ablution! wago.io/p/Ablution
Thanks for the reply, got it all sorted now, cheers for the help :)
Hey thanks for the video. Just wanted to know, how is your mana regen so high from 2:35?
Thanks
The ball that I picked up at precisely that moment, you can see the purple ball weakaura in the top left of my screen, increases my mana regen when picked up on the tichondrius fight. Its essential for that encounter.
As I didn't find it in your Addons/Weekauras: Whats the addon/string in the top left for the cast history? where it shows your 9 last cast spells?
That's details, my damage meters! There is a plugin in the addon options to activate Streamer mode which shows cast history!
Oh thanks, I didn't know Details could do that. I thinks it's really useful, so will definitely use it :D
Hey! I wanted to ask, where do you get these thumbnail pictures?
They're all screenshots from in game. This is Halls of Valor with the Inky Black Potion buff
hey Jak ! great videos love ur channel! Have a question, Im 900 ilevel , and I was wondering if the 4set bonus for holy is worth it, I end up loosing 600 and lowers my haste to 9% if i wanna have my 4set bonus cause the glove set piece is 875 vs my 905 non set piece i have.
4set is worth it if it is equal or greater ilvl than non-tier pieces. I would not drop item level to acquire 4pc
Hi, how do u regen mana that fast? 5:19- 6:00 aprox, you went between 20% to 80% aprox, does it have something to do with Belf racial or something?
Thats the orbs that I pickup on Tichondrius. Pickup an orb and the bat phase and you regen tons of mana.
oh thanks! its a mythic mechanic? i haven't get there yet
Bats aren't Mythic only, but not having their buff on Mythic will kill you.
The orbs are on every difficulty of the boss. The drop during the dream phase that he puts you through.
thanks! yesterday i see it because of this ahah, didn't see it before
What Relics are you currently using, and why? Also, are there specific BIS Relics, or could I chose what I like to better my preferred play style?
I'm using 925 PoH and Renew relics in Holy slots and 905 Say Your Prayers in Life slot. Most of the time ilvl will be key, relics are not very polarizing for HPriest. Theres definitely a priority, listed in my guides, but more often than not it will come down to item level gains.
thanks for sharing. watched a few vids. subbed!
Hey Jak, i was wondering, how do you use your Sanctify on M spellblade during the Frost Phase, like the best way vs the most hps.
Usually I'm holding onto Sanct quite a bit in frost phase until the frost adds come out then I usually just drop it down in melee when damage appears. Most of frost phase is single target heals though.
I also had one more question, that like i just can't figure out for myself, i have 9 legendary's for holy excluding sephuz, Obviously its Cape Velens as the god tier raiding set, but there has to be a fight where pants are just simply better, are you familiar?
Any farm fights where you're not looking to be able to activate your cloak you'd be better off going with the legs instead!
I find myself playing a lot better when my UI is not nearly as busy as yours. At this point, I don't use WeakAuras at all but I realize that I'm not hitting my cooldowns nearly as well as I should. As a holy priest, what would be your "absolutely have to have" weak auras for raiding? Are there other UI elements which you suggest every single healer should have?
Q Woodmansee there's always minimalist options for Weakauras! HWords/PoM/LoT are most of the must haves. The weakaura I linked above that shows raid cds I definitely would say is a must have as well.
Like he said in the video, Prayer of mending/power word shield(haste based cds), holy words, proc based buffs, trinket cds, anything that you think you should be paying attention to.
Hey Jak! Do you think it is a good idea to use trail of light/surge of light/apo on mythic aluriel, if we're having trouble healing debuffed people on first phase?
I'd take Trail but not Surge or Apoth. Sounds more like your other healers aren't helping out on the targets or something. How many healers do you have?>
4. me, pally, druid and another druid/shaman
Should be more than enough. Would definitely look to see who is slacking on healing the frost targets.
Do you think it's worth bringing out DMF Promises to compensate for enlightment loss?
I'd worry about that when you're consistently past the frost phase and running oom later on. You should be able to leytorrent after the arcane phase ends without an issue.
can i comment that for mythic gul'dan surely it's better to pop guaridan on the target then leap of faith them out of the bonds to you? i feel likes its quicker, and you dont take any damage or have any downtime from moving.
also your thing about healing tank even if sanc is up, and you can get a good sanc, if the tanks are low taking a lot of damage... holy word sanc actually does substantially more healing especially with 2 set than flash heal to a single target(475% of spell power for flash heal, and 600% to each target for sanc). not to mention the divinity bonus, and the fact it is instant cast. as such i think you should just pop sanc on melee group, and let it heal tanks.
The bonds on mythic detonate when the player with bonds leaves the bond radius. On heroic it detonates when the target reaches their end point, I was referring to mythic.
Its more efficient to hold off on your aoe heal and guarantee a heal on the relevant target, especially if there is a large boss separating your line of sight to them. Again its all situation
is velens trinket the best trinket overall for holy and disc? and if i get it would u reccomend me going with velens and prydaz or velens and rammals cuz i got prydaz and rammal and i trying to get velens, also is 11k crit too much? i am using a crit stat stick because i like to have high crit sitting at 11k crit 7kish master and 6kish haste
Velens is the best yes. My legendary rankings are listed in my guides on wowhead but yes I'd definitely go prydaz over rammaals. I'd go for a bit more Mastery in gems/enchants but you should be fine.
omg dude i just got it today after posting this lmao
You mention breaking chains with 1 other person with GS on mythic gul'dan. I've tried this twice in the past week and it did not work either time. One time it was with a shadow priest who used disperse as well, still no go.
Alex Propst it worked for me last week and failed this week. I believe it's a bug and I've reported it so hopefully it'll be fixed or addressed
ayy cheers, it would make P1 a lot more simplistic.
Hey Jak, have been running Cloak and Legs since forever on my Hpriest but recently dropped Velen's. How much better than Legs is this? I really love not having to think about the passive bonus on the legs, do you have to utilize the Use effect expertly to make the trinket better or are the stats just passively almost on par?
In so many ways the Velens trinket is far and away better than the legs. It will take practice to use effectively but it is well worth it to use over the legs
I guess it should always be used together with hymn, should you otherwise try to use it basically on CD or save it for big damage? Obviously you dont use it when everyone's at 100% but.
Always with Hymn and then on cooldown as long as damage is going out. Its a very short cooldown so use it frequently!
Thanks Jak!
is it possible to get your LUA file from grid ? btw nice guide
I use Vuhdo actually! Export can be found here! pastebin.com/DJbgzc9S
My biggest struggle with my HPS is we have a mistweaver who seems to snipe heals like a mad mans. Our heal comp is shammy, Druid, holy priest, and mistweaver. With this comp would it be more beneficial to swap my holy priest and gear up my holy pally? I just feel like me and the monk counter each other in our healing styles or something. When either of us aren't healing we skyrocket in hps, but only when it is one of us not one of the other 2 swapping. Any advice would help, also I am going to steal your CD weak aura that shows everyone's.
Anytime you have two healers, regardless of spec, that are more effective than others it will inevitably lower your HPS. Healing is a zero sum game, there's only so much healing to go around so it is perfectly natural for healers to reduce each other's throughput.
this week when we were fighting Gul'dan and he used bonds of fel , I and a other raid member were targeted, and died regardless we had guardian spirit. Since we started raiding in NH, I used my guardian spirit here and we could just run out of the bonds of fel. For science i tried it a second time and again I died , even if I had guardian spirit on me.
Any ideas? cheers and keep it up Jak :)
Some other comments mentioned this as well, if you have any logs of the death I'd love to see them I've submitted my report to a buddy so we're hoping to get this resolved asap :)
Also does not work for Befoulment and Heavenly Crash, but I don't know if it ever did - from the tooltip it sure sounds like it should! Seems all these split damage AoEs are bugged for GS.
what is the add-on with the log of what your casting and the recount with both dmg and healing? if anyone can answer. thanks!
Same addon, details damage meters and the streamer plugin that comes with it.
your audio is slightly off-sync Jak
Do you think holy priests need a dr? We have guardian but tonight in a +12 brh I i used guardian and shadow volley from last boss still goes through and killed me and many one shots do this what do you do when these situations come?
I definitely think we do, its pretty rough doing higher tier M+ without it and really makes having Prydaz a requirement in many cases.
Yeah, I think guardian should have some mitigation on it, yeah there is perseverance on 30 talent tree but having to choose 10% mitgation over feathers is really rough. Guardian is bad because its really unreliable allot of 1 shots will go through. Usually people look at guardian for its flat 40% bonus so you can really just 1 heal the tank with serenity. I'm just annoyed when I hear "everyone use mitigation" and Im stuck here without anyway to use one. I shouldn't have to save guardian for myself in certain fights just for it to not work.
Im a holy priest, I have Xanshi and belt legendaries. But idk it is better for raid healing to use xanshi and Muze or xanshi and Rammal. What is your opinion? i have that 4 legendaries. Mastery at 45%. Crit at 24% and Haste at 13% with cloak and belt.
diego loso I'd go cloak/muze for sure.
Yes, that what i think. But i lose 200 of intellect. And 24% crit 15% haste and 43% Mastery. Is it worth?
diego loso probably yeah. Effect of muze will make up for lost int
Yeah!. i have just do some changes and gain 100 intellect!. but lose 1% of mastery. All of this with muze/xanshi. Thanks! u are awesome!
I feel really weak for some reason on my holy priest..
Nice vid, could you upgrade your interface video/links
All my links should be up to date on pastebin.com/u/automaticjak
last week i imported some strings, there was a shadow string instead of the holy, what the string was saying. And the Discstring doesnt even find it (VuuhDo) :( but thx mate
Nice vid
It sounds like you have someone held captive in your basement trying to tap out a call for help on your water pipes in morse code O.o
Maybe
Another awesome video Jak! One thing though, I believe that they have stealth nerfed GS so that it is no longer usable to solo break empowered bonds on Gul'Dan. I posted something in the bug report about it on the blizz forums here: us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20754015893#post-1 If you have a moment, would you mind looking at the log I have posted there & tell me if I am reading it incorrectly?
Yep it seems to be bugged. Another person in the comments mentioned it as well and it screwed me over on Guldan last night. I mentioned it to a buddy so hopefully we'll get some clarification on it!
grip someone that is running to soak bonds lol
Heey nice adivce in the videos.
But i got a question i cant seem to be improving my healing. i have done the heroic riad etc but our raid team seems to be having problems with elisande but beside that.
I dont know how to improve and i would like if you can could add me on bnet so if you have time and want to. maybe check my log where im going wrong.
Bnet is knetje #2407. thx in advance
If you want to join Discord or check out the stream I can find some time to check over your logs. I get asked a lot so usually I just try to check logs for people when im streaming.
that would be great give me a channel and il check it out. what is just see is that you use the same spells as i use only you use heal a lot more i need to figure it out