Another tip: remember that the lion traps in tide pool have a bigger hitbox than the totem traps in the dwelling. This means that totem traps won’t launch the tiny $100 nuggets at you, but the lion traps will.
Tips from another who's suffered this challenge: Try to acquire the Udjat eye (or glasses, but udjat is a more consistent method) in order to know where gems are so you can safely bomb when necessary Don't use a shotgun until killing Tiamat, it can make gold fly unpredictably. In tidepool pay attention to the small foreground pillars, they frequently hide gold on the ground behind them.
@@Pastryperson The shotgun is decent but has significant drawbacks. If you just master using the whip you won't need to rely on shotgun as a crutch. Imo the only situation that justifies bringing a shotgun through every level is when shopkeepers have been aggro'd. As weapons go the boomerang can often prove more versatile and overall more useful when not fighting shopkeepers.
@@magik7675 No gold is a lot harder and more unpredictable than eggplant, especially in my personal experiences. I've done 2 eggplant run attempts, both succeeded, the 2nd I got as far as the cosmic ocean, yet for no gold I've spent more than 50+ attempts and after at least 20 hours of frustration I finally managed to do it. Even in the first game I don't remember struggling so much, probably because of all the foreground objects that conceal money.
Weird little interaction to keep in mind in case you get a camera. While the camera will kill most flying creatures like bats, *don't* use it against the golden scarabs. Taking their picture will actually collect them instead of killing them.
Helpful, this achievement is a goddamn nightmare. For the free shotgun before Tiamat, place a bomb on the elevator going down to Tusk's palace entrance and the bodyguard will always die. Teleporting can help a lot too. Also it's good to remember that the golden scarabs are no good just as much as gold. I always get them by mistake.
@@luhsvideodump1300 No problem, just giving my two cents. I saw a video of this strategy but when came the time for me to test it I think 3 times what I mentioned happened so now I normally cook a bomb and throw at the guard protecting the other door further down.
Another thing, you can take a land mine from ice caves to kill the bodyguard on 6-3 for free as he won't move off of it or get aggro'd from it unlike shopkeepers
@@firxyfox I feel like the whip isn't that useful in stage 6, most of the enemies in that level can either be avoided or you wouldn't want to use a whip on them anyway
@@yumeir8148 This is a video on no gold, where you need to avoid the gold, whipping gold away from you is normally why you want to be empty handed in a no gold run.
I’ve been using the strategy of roping the shopkeeper on 1-2/3. He drops the shotgun so you can pick it up and have just enough time to leave with all the items. If there’s a jetpack, make sure to pick it up first so it auto equips.
I personally found Spelunky 2 to be much easier to perform a no gold run compared to the first one, it was easier to spot the gold and in the first one I was forced to deal with jungle tree gold and couldn’t steal from a shop keeper unless I wanted to get hunted the whole game
The metal shield is really good for no gold, the trick I used before giving up because Derek yu hates me is: 1. get a shield from 1-2/1-3 2. get past Olmec by skipping him with bombs 3. steal a shotgun, yes the free one 4. beat Tiamat note: don't get spelunked edit: get the udjat eye too if you can
I really tried to like the shield, since it is a lot easier to get your hands on than in the first game(where it was a unique item obtained from the rampaging black knight in the fortress). Pretty much all my experiences have led me to question its usefulness. It pushes/crushes gold from the front (so naturally you would think it's perfect for the no gold run, but I've had more luck and got further without it than with it), except sometimes it doesn't, I've had 1-2 times I tried to crush gold and it teleported it behind me instead, having me pick it up, and if gold comes flying from above, tough luck, at least with bare hands you can whip flying stuff and maybe save yourself. It repels projectiles from the front, except sometimes it doesn't (I've been shot more than 2 times while holding my shield towards a shopkeeper, there's a certain angle at the head where you're not protected and bullets go through, stunning/killing you. Crushing enemies is fun, except for enemies that drop money/gems when killed, they all too often launch the money/gems upwards when they die, highly likely to then land on your head. You need to take extreme care when bombing, as crushing a bomb via perhaps placing it while holding the shield against a wall will result in death. Since people rely a lot on muscle memory in this game, it really throws you off to have to rethink every single one of your bomb placements. And for runs that don't concern avoiding money, apart from the fun gimmick of crushing mobs into walls, I don't see why I'd ever use it. I think even web gun is more useful, even if it's memed to hell and back as a garbage item, at least web gun can get shopkeepers/dangerous mobs permanently stuck in it. Sure, I'd never buy a webgun from a shop, but if I found it in a crate/crust somewhere, and I didn't need to carry some other important item, then maybe I'd consider taking it, vs a shield, I wouldn't pick that up for fear of blowing myself up accidentally.
Just finished this, being my last achievement, giving me 100% on my file some more tips, make sure to do the other strat for olmec where you walk completely under him onto the other side and it takes 2 stomps to break a layer. this way if there's gold in the corner you can just not walk into the corner and keep going. also be suuuper careful in tide pool, make sure to really look at your path before you go, take your time. for volcana almost never jump on a robot unless needed, they mess u up a ton. you can also kill the beetles in dark levels or back layers without picking them up. i'd also always go for the pet if you can, until like ice caves or maybe even tide pool, where it's way better to just keep your shotgun on you and not risk it. yeah getting a shotgun is super super good too, so try and get one before tide pool. also just try and get to the exit really, ur not gonna be getting too many items so just try and leave. no hired hands too!
Impressive, I'm grinding out a basic victory. 1 week in, new to the series. Edit 2 months later- Aww it's crazy to see how much progress I've made. CO daily but never beaten it. not even close 7-17 is my PB guess I'll come back in the future. maybe 7-99 will be a daily thing.... doubt it
I've been attempting this challenge for three weeks now. And I noticed myself getting better and better at survival. My strategy for this run is getting the udjat eye to see more dangers in the walls and giving yang his turkeys. Grab the key, bring it to volcano for Van Horsing. Then go into vlads castle, which unfortunately removes the udjat eye. But gains me vlads cape and the crown. The cape makes traveling much safer and the crown allows taking Excalibur, which I intend to use to kill Tiamat with. But tide pool-3 was the furthest I got yet. One of the inky bois was guarding the lever to get down further, so I bombed, which somehow sent an aimbot gem at me
This one really wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. I hated the Millionaire one much more, the runs took forever because of the grind, and failing them was much more painful. I feel most of the stuff mentioned here was rather obvious, besides some tips in certain situations maybe. So let me add a few more things. To anyone doing this, I would definitely ALWAYS rob the shopkeeper in 1-2 or 1-3, even if it's not a shit ton of bombs, just make sure not to kill them. Like it was said with the Kali Altar, you're not going to be getting items any other way unless you're lucky or do sacrifices, so anything is good. Especially if it's movement related or a compass, Furthermore, always get the Udjat Eye if you can, alternatively the Spectacles, so if you use bombs or maybe even a pickaxe, you know where gems will be hidden, so you can avoid them or be prepared for them. Also, Volcana was mentioned, but I think it should be elaborated on that it's generally the superior choice. The Jungle loves hiding gold behind textures, more than the Tide Pool, should be obvious, but going to mention it regardless. Last but not least, the shotgun is weird. If you want gold or gems to go away, always use your whip. A shotgun blast might sometimes shoot the gold towards you, rather than away from you. Had one or two runs end to that. Also... while I have done these runs normally and had many nearly successful attempts end in 6--3, I did end up having my successful run with a teleporter. I would definitely recommend that item too. Although a lot of things I did were risky, so I would say it's best if you can use it in combination with a jetpack or hoverpack, which I didn't have.
did you play the no gold run relatively slowly taking your time in dangerous situations to find the best way through or did you go pretty fast? same with 7-99 how do you usually play?
Even though it’s rare if you manage to find a push crate to push inside the store you can trap him in his corner and rob everything make sure that you move the items on the other side of the crate
Don’t carry torches. jetpack and teleporter or jetpack, mattock, and specs are the best 2 combos, and be extra careful in tide pools. Also shortcuts don’t work for the achievement, I’ve tried
Get Turkey's and bring them out of the Dwellings for easy double jump and whip. If you get a shotgun from a shopkeeper and a Turkey you can both have a whip if you crouch (the Turkey's head) that you can knock gold over with and a shotgun.
Step one: don't try to speedrun. If you are not speedruning. Take your time and don't try to whip every arrow trap you see. Also don't try to method at 1:42 it usually more risky. This is mostly used in speedruns.
The Low Scorer achievement/trophy says "Complete the game with no gold without shortcuts in a non-seeded single player run." So you do need to start at the beginning
can anyone tell me the name of the outro music? like i know that it's a remix of an spelunky 1 song and all, but i can't find it anywhere on youtube...
No, you must pick up no gold during the course of the run, even if you spend it. The game is looking for if you picked up gold, not your actual money counter, good luck with your runs!
The Temple is much more harder in general though. You can take your sweet ass time in Tide Pool. I haven't lost a single run in the Tide Pool to hidden gold, just be as careful as you would normally be and you're fine.
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Another tip: remember that the lion traps in tide pool have a bigger hitbox than the totem traps in the dwelling. This means that totem traps won’t launch the tiny $100 nuggets at you, but the lion traps will.
Tips from another who's suffered this challenge:
Try to acquire the Udjat eye (or glasses, but udjat is a more consistent method) in order to know where gems are so you can safely bomb when necessary
Don't use a shotgun until killing Tiamat, it can make gold fly unpredictably.
In tidepool pay attention to the small foreground pillars, they frequently hide gold on the ground behind them.
shotgun is still really good you just need to use it well
@@Pastryperson The shotgun is decent but has significant drawbacks. If you just master using the whip you won't need to rely on shotgun as a crutch. Imo the only situation that justifies bringing a shotgun through every level is when shopkeepers have been aggro'd. As weapons go the boomerang can often prove more versatile and overall more useful when not fighting shopkeepers.
@@bobzang5255 i normally use metal shield, and then take the shotgun from tusk's bodyguard
Another tip, don't use Hired Hands at all, they can interact with the gold (and sometimes they even chase it).
pro tip: never use hired hand except for sacrificing to kali
@@mehmetocal1451 Fun fact no gold is easier than eggplant.
@@magik7675 lol 1 durability eggplant is nightmare
@@magik7675 No gold is a lot harder and more unpredictable than eggplant, especially in my personal experiences. I've done 2 eggplant run attempts, both succeeded, the 2nd I got as far as the cosmic ocean, yet for no gold I've spent more than 50+ attempts and after at least 20 hours of frustration I finally managed to do it. Even in the first game I don't remember struggling so much, probably because of all the foreground objects that conceal money.
@@Skrymaster I did no gold speedrun in 2 hours but struggled to finish egg plant in one day.
Weird little interaction to keep in mind in case you get a camera. While the camera will kill most flying creatures like bats, *don't* use it against the golden scarabs. Taking their picture will actually collect them instead of killing them.
Helpful, this achievement is a goddamn nightmare.
For the free shotgun before Tiamat, place a bomb on the elevator going down to Tusk's palace entrance and the bodyguard will always die.
Teleporting can help a lot too.
Also it's good to remember that the golden scarabs are no good just as much as gold. I always get them by mistake.
Not always, sometimes for me the elevator could go lower than Tusk Palace floor making this strategy not reliable.
@@Patrick_Bard Oh, I didn't know the elevator could generate with extra levels, I apologise.
@@luhsvideodump1300 No problem, just giving my two cents. I saw a video of this strategy but when came the time for me to test it I think 3 times what I mentioned happened so now I normally cook a bomb and throw at the guard protecting the other door further down.
Remember you are your biggest enemy if your new to this you might go “oh some gold!” And then remember
Yep, gotta learn to break the habit first
I am forever traumatized. When I hear that sound of collecting gold, I sometimes just think “dammit” and then realize it doesn’t matter.
Tip, never get a parachute. They have the chance of giving the player gold when used. Same can be said for aliens.
This happened to me in 6-3 it was so saf
@@tinytim7014 NOOO
Another thing, you can take a land mine from ice caves to kill the bodyguard on 6-3 for free as he won't move off of it or get aggro'd from it unlike shopkeepers
I tried to do this, you really need your whip at all times. Better just to use a bomb on the bodyguard. Especially if you have paste
@@firxyfox I feel like the whip isn't that useful in stage 6, most of the enemies in that level can either be avoided or you wouldn't want to use a whip on them anyway
@@yumeir8148 This is a video on no gold, where you need to avoid the gold, whipping gold away from you is normally why you want to be empty handed in a no gold run.
I managed to do this on spelunky HD for the first time yesterday. Same hardships the worst were the pieces of gold hidden in the leaves of the jungle.
I’ve been using the strategy of roping the shopkeeper on 1-2/3. He drops the shotgun so you can pick it up and have just enough time to leave with all the items. If there’s a jetpack, make sure to pick it up first so it auto equips.
I personally found Spelunky 2 to be much easier to perform a no gold run compared to the first one, it was easier to spot the gold and in the first one I was forced to deal with jungle tree gold and couldn’t steal from a shop keeper unless I wanted to get hunted the whole game
The metal shield is really good for no gold, the trick I used before giving up because Derek yu hates me is:
1. get a shield from 1-2/1-3
2. get past Olmec by skipping him with bombs
3. steal a shotgun, yes the free one
4. beat Tiamat
note: don't get spelunked
edit: get the udjat eye too if you can
I really tried to like the shield, since it is a lot easier to get your hands on than in the first game(where it was a unique item obtained from the rampaging black knight in the fortress). Pretty much all my experiences have led me to question its usefulness.
It pushes/crushes gold from the front (so naturally you would think it's perfect for the no gold run, but I've had more luck and got further without it than with it), except sometimes it doesn't, I've had 1-2 times I tried to crush gold and it teleported it behind me instead, having me pick it up, and if gold comes flying from above, tough luck, at least with bare hands you can whip flying stuff and maybe save yourself.
It repels projectiles from the front, except sometimes it doesn't (I've been shot more than 2 times while holding my shield towards a shopkeeper, there's a certain angle at the head where you're not protected and bullets go through, stunning/killing you.
Crushing enemies is fun, except for enemies that drop money/gems when killed, they all too often launch the money/gems upwards when they die, highly likely to then land on your head.
You need to take extreme care when bombing, as crushing a bomb via perhaps placing it while holding the shield against a wall will result in death. Since people rely a lot on muscle memory in this game, it really throws you off to have to rethink every single one of your bomb placements.
And for runs that don't concern avoiding money, apart from the fun gimmick of crushing mobs into walls, I don't see why I'd ever use it. I think even web gun is more useful, even if it's memed to hell and back as a garbage item, at least web gun can get shopkeepers/dangerous mobs permanently stuck in it. Sure, I'd never buy a webgun from a shop, but if I found it in a crate/crust somewhere, and I didn't need to carry some other important item, then maybe I'd consider taking it, vs a shield, I wouldn't pick that up for fear of blowing myself up accidentally.
1:07 seems to have a text box error, did you forget to finish it?
Woops! I think I might have tried to type into a different text box but accidentally had that selected
I mean if you read the text it's almos
Just finished this, being my last achievement, giving me 100% on my file
some more tips, make sure to do the other strat for olmec where you walk completely under him onto the other side and it takes 2 stomps to break a layer. this way if there's gold in the corner you can just not walk into the corner and keep going. also be suuuper careful in tide pool, make sure to really look at your path before you go, take your time. for volcana almost never jump on a robot unless needed, they mess u up a ton. you can also kill the beetles in dark levels or back layers without picking them up. i'd also always go for the pet if you can, until like ice caves or maybe even tide pool, where it's way better to just keep your shotgun on you and not risk it. yeah getting a shotgun is super super good too, so try and get one before tide pool. also just try and get to the exit really, ur not gonna be getting too many items so just try and leave. no hired hands too!
There is many times where it just *seems* unfair
That's a weird way to say "it's utter bullshit"
Well, I don't want to say that on a kid friendly video but yes, it is exactly that
In my professional opinion the best way to complete this run
Is to not pick up gold
Very helpful tips actually,thanks!
Thanks this is the only steam achivment i have left
Impressive, I'm grinding out a basic victory. 1 week in, new to the series.
Edit 2 months later- Aww it's crazy to see how much progress I've made. CO daily but never beaten it. not even close 7-17 is my PB guess I'll come back in the future. maybe 7-99 will be a daily thing.... doubt it
My tip is use hover pack and only touch the ground to exit the level doesnt really work in neo bab tho
i like your editing and character
Hoverpack is extra useful on a no gold run as well!
I've been attempting this challenge for three weeks now. And I noticed myself getting better and better at survival.
My strategy for this run is getting the udjat eye to see more dangers in the walls and giving yang his turkeys. Grab the key, bring it to volcano for Van Horsing. Then go into vlads castle, which unfortunately removes the udjat eye. But gains me vlads cape and the crown. The cape makes traveling much safer and the crown allows taking Excalibur, which I intend to use to kill Tiamat with. But tide pool-3 was the furthest I got yet. One of the inky bois was guarding the lever to get down further, so I bombed, which somehow sent an aimbot gem at me
This one really wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.
I hated the Millionaire one much more, the runs took forever because of the grind, and failing them was much more painful.
I feel most of the stuff mentioned here was rather obvious, besides some tips in certain situations maybe.
So let me add a few more things.
To anyone doing this, I would definitely ALWAYS rob the shopkeeper in 1-2 or 1-3, even if it's not a shit ton of bombs, just make sure not to kill them.
Like it was said with the Kali Altar, you're not going to be getting items any other way unless you're lucky or do sacrifices, so anything is good.
Especially if it's movement related or a compass,
Furthermore, always get the Udjat Eye if you can, alternatively the Spectacles, so if you use bombs or maybe even a pickaxe, you know where gems will be hidden, so you can avoid them or be prepared for them.
Also, Volcana was mentioned, but I think it should be elaborated on that it's generally the superior choice.
The Jungle loves hiding gold behind textures, more than the Tide Pool, should be obvious, but going to mention it regardless.
Last but not least, the shotgun is weird.
If you want gold or gems to go away, always use your whip.
A shotgun blast might sometimes shoot the gold towards you, rather than away from you.
Had one or two runs end to that.
Also... while I have done these runs normally and had many nearly successful attempts end in 6--3, I did end up having my successful run with a teleporter.
I would definitely recommend that item too.
Although a lot of things I did were risky, so I would say it's best if you can use it in combination with a jetpack or hoverpack, which I didn't have.
You know you can easily get millionaire by ghosting Tusk's vault for $650 000~ in neo babylon?
did you play the no gold run relatively slowly taking your time in dangerous situations to find the best way through or did you go pretty fast? same with 7-99 how do you usually play?
Even though it’s rare if you manage to find a push crate to push inside the store you can trap him in his corner and rob everything make sure that you move the items on the other side of the crate
good use of LISE
Watching these runs gives me pain
I just did the achievement, I go to youtube and it recommends this video... bruh.
Don’t carry torches. jetpack and teleporter or jetpack, mattock, and specs are the best 2 combos, and be extra careful in tide pools. Also shortcuts don’t work for the achievement, I’ve tried
Get Turkey's and bring them out of the Dwellings for easy double jump and whip. If you get a shotgun from a shopkeeper and a Turkey you can both have a whip if you crouch (the Turkey's head) that you can knock gold over with and a shotgun.
tip: DONT PICK UP THE SHOPKEEPER'S GOLD AFTER KILLING HIM
Thumbnail shows the speedlunky achievement and not the low scorer achievement... 😅
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My zero gold runs never make it passed the City of Gold.
Gold can be behind dead bodies. That was ruined my run at 5-1. This challenge is freaking hard!
Step one: don't try to speedrun. If you are not speedruning. Take your time and don't try to whip every arrow trap you see. Also don't try to method at 1:42 it usually more risky. This is mostly used in speedruns.
If Olmec crushes a block and drops gold on a side doing the walk left and right dig down thing, you'll have no where to stand cause gold is in the way
It’s mostly used if you’re good at the tactic and if you are then you should probably always use it it’s a lot faster
keep up the great work!
today I finally got the achievement after 2 months
If you wanna kind of cheat the first 4 levels you can use the level 5 shortcut cause it doesant say that you cant use short cuts
The Low Scorer achievement/trophy says "Complete the game with no gold without shortcuts in a non-seeded single player run." So you do need to start at the beginning
can anyone tell me the name of the outro music?
like i know that it's a remix of an spelunky 1 song and all, but i can't find it anywhere on youtube...
Yang's Turkey Shop
@@firxyfox THANKS I LOVE YOU
Maybe they aren't viewed much cuz you type rather than talk. Just a thought
I hate this challenge so much.
Hi! I have a question,
Is it considered an achievement if you collect gold during the game, but during the killing of Tiamat, its amount will be 0?
No, you must pick up no gold during the course of the run, even if you spend it. The game is looking for if you picked up gold, not your actual money counter, good luck with your runs!
@@firxyfox Thanks a lot! You saved me hundreds of unnecessary attempts :D
Can you use shortcuts, cus in the description for the trophie, it doesn’t say anything about shortcuts
No, you can't.. achievement has to start from the very beginning
@@firxyfox ah thanks bro
I think it's actually better to go to temple for no gold runs
The Temple is much more harder in general though.
You can take your sweet ass time in Tide Pool.
I haven't lost a single run in the Tide Pool to hidden gold, just be as careful as you would normally be and you're fine.
Very cool powerpoint presentation.
Great video!
On ps4 it doesn’t say if u can use shortcuts.
Is that true?
yes
It’s not I tried
Should HAVE not should OF
another tip: dont grab any gold
“of”
let me see the game?
ive had shotgun pellets end up shooting gold towards me. its much safer to just whip
Thankfully they patched out the shotgun shooting item backwards.
well lemme pass the game normally first
bro make the subtitles a bit less in your face
lol just don’t get gold
But in all seriousness nice vid!
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