How NOT to cut down a tree -6 common Mistakes
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- Опубліковано 29 кві 2018
- How to cut down a tree while reading hate mail.....The right way & wrong way to cut down a tree. We show both plus cover 6 common mistakes that can happen & for fun I read hate mail from the last tree removal video.
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As a professional tree guy, I recommend you stay away from trees.
BEST COMMENT! I second that advice!
Or chainsaws altogether
This is good documentation for OSHA, your insurance company, future lawsuits or your obituary.
Hi
Landscapers are not tree guys
Every landscaper I’ve seen take down a tree either does it with machinery, or incorrectly.
Graham K money’s money, even if they don’t know what there doing there still gonna take there money and do it in the worst manner possible.
you can do both, but they are different skill sets.
@@FishFind3000 I watch this dbags vids just to make sure I stihl have anger issues.
Hi
This video is almost worst than the first one because you’re advertising that is “the right way” to cut the trees. Many things here might work for you but but aren’t advisable and are unsafe. Just stick to what you know and keep doing that
Some people dont know they shoukd make a formal guide of a variety of scenarios regard all sizes of trees instead of fooling around with alot edge cases.
First problem. Horizontal cut is too deep. Second problem. Your notch didn’t reach the back of your horizontal cut; this, paired with the fact that you leave no hinge wood, means that the tree can twist, and go wherever it wants. 3rd. No hinge wood; the hinge wood is what guides the tree as it falls - the angle of your face cut determines how far the tree will fall before if breaks the hinge. 4th. What you said about needing the make the bottom of the face cut at the same level as the back cut - having it up a couple inches is good as long as you don’t break the vertical fibres completely, which is easier to do if your cuts are at different levels. Not sure if that is what you were referencing. Really understanding the physics of what is happening is the safest way to fell a tree, for the most part.
Graham K spot on
Every cut was still wrong!!!! He was cutting through his hinge would by not lining up his notch and going too far, also you want the back cut an inch or two above your notch.
depending on the cut i usually like my back cuts flush
Flush works as well but for beginners like these guys an inch or two higher would be better..when pushing or pulling a tree you want too cut it below your notch so the tree can’t slide off the stump..
Arena Landscaping & Tree Service flush is asking for trouble if u cut flush cut 2 inches above face forstump shot and the tree not the slide off stump!!!
I would rather do it as the guys do with 5 years of education at the forest school.
I always go an inch above on the back cut.
Mr. Stan, with all due respect, stick to landscaping. Almost none of the techniques you showed in this video are safe. People will watch this video and take it as instructions for felling their first tree. That tree might be their last if they follow these techniques. By the way I`m 16 and run a small tree business and follow your channel for some advice. Every other video of your's I've watched is excellent, just stick to landscaping. Have a great day :)
Jeremy Novak I also agree, everything mentioned was completely incorrect. Watch buckin billy Ray for proper felling tips not this clown
I could go on and on about everything wrong in this video.
Joe Gosselin absolutely brother. Someone with this kind of viewership should do some research before giving advice
Yeah me too it looks good on paper but get out in the woods it's a whole different story
I think you are supposed to have your back cut be a little higher then you notch.
Wow, still did it all wrong. Notch should be flat top, angle on bottom and the back cut should be higher than the notch to create a hinge to stop the tree from twisting and to help direct it towards the notch and where you want it to fall and to help prevent it from falling back towards the sawyer. Don't believe me? Watch a few videos from tree service cutters or professional tree fellers.
Badgermatt75 2016 people do that to save as much wood as possible you can notch either way both ways are correct.. but I do agree he messed that notch up didn't leave any hinge wood cause they didn't line there notch up
The notch doesn’t have to be a Humboldt the conventional way also works. But I agree with you completely. The lack of hingewood left (none actually) scared me.
You should stop making videos of improper tree felling. It’s isn’t helping anyone out.
The hinge can bye up or down but everything else was wrong. Also just cuz you put a notch doesn’t mean it’s gonna go there you need to understand where the lean is and how the trees gonna react.
I found out about notches the hard way. I cut my notch, and proclaimed to my audience that the tree would precisely far in a certain area. I then finished cutting it down, and it fell, it fell precisely all right, int he direction of the notch exactly, but I put my notch 75º the wrong heading SMH. Nothing got hurt or damaged though, but there was a good laugh at my expense.
If you are a new to felling, there are other channels that go into more detail and give the correct way to tell a tree. No offence but there were a lot of things wrong with how u fell those trees. Even the “correct” way
Yea, check out bucking billy Ray, he’s the best at it, also logger wade and human are also good sources.
Buckin Billy is badass for sure. The main difference between Buckin and Stanly is Buckin actually helps people with good info, Stanly just wants post counts good or bad!
Human is definitely an awesome resource
August Hunicke is a great resource as well.
Human is also a beginner he only has a year or two into tree felling! August and buckin are a much better resource.
Kickback is only cause by the top 2inches of the bar so cutting with upside down like at 5:55 won't cause kick back and that Dutchmen on the face cut is horrible. Please don't do any more tree videos your going to get hurt or some else will.
2011 during all the wild fires in Texas, I got to cut my first burning tree. Quite the experience, but the tree had to be cut as the fire was burning up the middle. Definitely keeps your attention on your work!
Wow, at least have the first and second cuts meet. It won’t hinge otherwise. This is a great way to barber chair a tree and get seriously hurt. I really like your landscape vids. Thank you for those. 😎
look, leave tree work to tree workers, please. doing tree work when your not professionally trained is like getting a plumber to wire a a sky scrapper by themselves.
Nope, still did it wrong. Way to deep on that bottom cut.
No hinge wood left?
i feel massive property damage and or injury/death coming if you cut down any tree of significant size the way that guy does.....go watch buckin' billy ray or august hunicke and save yourself alot of greif with a chainsaw.....anything to do with hardscape and earthmoving this channel is awesome though.
I’ll second that
August is my favorite arborist!! Buckin is too annoying for my liking.
Some other channels: human, patkarrleson, wrangler star has some, logger wade, and many others are out there
You can’t go wrong with August Hunicke. His videos are educational and entertaining
Graham K human is good, logger wade, bukin billy Ray. There all good wranerstar just copies other people’s content I’d avoid him.
I like watching these videos. My buddies and I have to go up every year to work on my other buddy's family's deer hunting cabin. We've found that we need to down trees, clear trails, put in drainage for trails, and other random crap that has not been done for 30 years. I always learn something useful when I watch this video.
The cabin is up in Motley. You probably know the area.
We've done correct and incorrect tree clearing. We want to bring skids, but the soil is wet, so don't want that hassle. We usually burn the stumps out. What that cabin needs is an actual tractor for it's hydraulics.
Still though, really fun to watch these videos.
How not to cut down a tree? Shoot I thought that was the last video
you seem like a amazing person to work for. I love that you let your guys try new things and be innovative witch is very rare in most companies now. keep up the good work
Thanks! 👍
The "safety experts" really come out of the woodwork on chainsaw videos
Watch Buckin Billie Ray if you want to learn how to cut a tree down properly.
Or human
Dude, I've got bar envy from that Makita saw! LOL Frankie is a man of many talents.
I was just waiting to see a comment by wranglerstar
JP Palmer unlike this guy wranglerstar knows how to fell trees.
I've had my Dahmer Makita Chainsaw for over 18 years. It will not die!
Good timing. Last Sunday my uncle was taking down a tree and crushed him tore his shoulder broke 4 ribs shatters pelvis and femur. He's extremely lucky to be alive. But. Leave trees to experts.
Dan Lacker well if this video came out before he cut the tree he would have just died. I agree that this should not be up here giving the wrong idea to people that don’t know better.
You guys are hilarious with your polish power way to go
The face cut was far too deep, it should be a clean wedge. This is territory you should be very careful with, Stanley- tree work has no room for error and some of these techniques can get you or others killed very quickly.
just a quick question off topic, how do you deal with rany days? im starting my own buisnes in Argentina and havent been able to work for the last 3 weeks because of rain
Lmao this was great Haha
I love the cutting pants 🤣
Great channel and good ideas for diy landscaping. Just not so great at cutting trees.
I wish I had found this video before I dropped that tree on my neighbors roof !!!! Dammit .......
Not sure if this vid would have helped
Ok Stanley, tree guys are absolutely brutal to each other in video comments. You have no shot as a general contractor of doing it right in the first place in their eyes. But you give us plenty of ammunition. Mostly this video shows you know almost enough to stay out of serious trouble. The back cut does have to be above the bottom of the notch. It keeps you from cutting through the hinge wood, which you do. Tree guys dont hate other contractors, we just dont like them trying to do our job. It really isnt so simple anyone can do it.
When circus clowns run saws.
Thanks for the vlog
Stan, you are definitely more entertaining to watch than ISA's channel and will always get more views, but when it comes to safety and doing tree work right... :) Just recommend tree guys go to ISA for this stuff. Can you cover more business/nerdy stuff?
When notching, do the top cut first. Then look down your top cut during your bottom cut to make sure you don't cut into the hinge wood.
Edward Allen that’s one way to do the notch cut but not the only way. I personally do my bottom cut first. Is it wrong? No, but it’s another way.
Hey you can cut trees and landscape can they? Most the time here in Texas all I see tree cutters do is make a big mess.lol. keep doing what you do you do it so fine.
Just stay with what you know. Trees are not.
I live in the UK, I learnt that the angle cut should be 1st and roughly 1/3 of the trunk thickness, then the seat cut, the back cut should be slightly higher and leaving no thicker an an inch of hinge wood then trim the hinge once felled.
Among a few other types
One thing people might not know. Your handle bar! It is a guide, wherever you cut, it will fall within that way if your bar. I know I didn't explain it correctly, but most of you know what I'm talking about
Great job and video. u didn't mention the bypass on the bottom cut of the notch
Thanks Justin !
None of the felling was done right this video is going to get sombody hurt bad
What is the grapple attachment you have on the skid steer?
People new to felling: here are some channels that might help you more and teach you correctly. Swedish homestead, patkarlsson, human, logger wade, and also professional companies such stihl or Husqvarna have instructional videos on felling. Sorry Stan, don’t mean to diss you.
Graham K check out buckin billy Ray, he’s the king at it
Stan another great video. Its super easy to sit in your gaming chair and talk about other people who actually do this work everyday and still take the time to make videos for us other working people.
These guys don't cut trees every day. Cutting a tree is an extremely dangerous operation, even though it looks like an easy DIY job. Just search for "tree cutting fails" on UA-cam to see what can go wrong.
Huh glad everyone already said what i wanted to say about those 'techniques'
Worksafe BC did a 17 video series here on UA-cam on faller safety, and although it is a little dated the information is worth going through. Their website have specific guidelines as well. They describe specific accidents, which is always useful for focusing attention. When you watch a real pro fell a tree, it is surprising how much attention they give to the face cut, being certain that the two cuts of the face meet to precisely sculpt the front of the hinge. As you say, this is a good illustration that your friend has no understanding of why a good hinge is critical. Notice that his horizontal face cut goes way too far back, which completely destroys the integrity of the hinge. The face cut is supposed to be only 1/3 of the way through the tree, and they specifically prohibit the Dutchmans like this because they create instability of the hinge and rotation of the stem as the tree falls. Of note, the industry standard for professional fallers in BC allows the back cut to be up to an inch above the horizontal part of the face cut, but not below with standard felling techniques. Their reasoning is that a small step at the back of the stump will help to prevent the stem from dangerously sliding backwards as the tree falls (and maybe reduce the chance of a barber chair). It's all about safety.
Wow. Watch wranglerstar on felling. You need hingewood and a 2" box above wedge cut to prevent twist. Also cut your wedge cut in a comfortable height if possible. Close to the ground right away only serves as another possible hazard.
Ok, I see 2 issues done with the "proper" way to cut doen a tree that you show, I went to scool here in Sweden to learn that stuff.
1: The bottom cut of the notch looked a bit deep but that may have just been the camera angle.
2: After making the notch NEVER walk in front of the tree, things can go VERY wrong and have the tree fall. It might be slightly rotten inside and fall by a strong gust of wind.
Besides that, it looks great.
Oh, also, another reason for steelntoe boots, if the saw hits your foot, it will be way less likely to chop any toes off.
back cut should be ab an inch or so higher than the front to make a hinge, also dont cut all the way through, only enough to make it fall
I love how as soon as he gets done talking about Ppe franky is cutting with almost none of it
May God continue to bless you as well
This video is not a replacement for actual training any person who was never picked up a chainsaw or cut any kind of tree down shouldn't take this as training and should actually get real training as well this is just a great guide
Nice PSA Stanley DM Genadek.
Love your videos, Stan. Your how to and how not to videos are the best. Sorry, but I can't find any faults with your videos or your content so you get no hate from me. I'd like to see a video of the why's and the why not's of building a backyard swimming pool in Minnesota.
Like your videos! Keep up the good work
I've seen your challenger driving around north oaks!
I do tree removal in the Twin cities. Just call me from now on and have it done right. Them some scary cuts.
Hey Frankie show us how you sharpen a chain!!!!
Get the gullet! Buckin Billy Ray Smith.
If anything falls on your foot heavy enough to crush a steel toe and "cut your toes off". Your toes would be so mangled that they would most likely need to be removed if you dont have steel toe boots
Bottom cut at 180°. Top cut at 60° to 70° on back cut. Go up 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 " then let it eat
Hey my name is josh and I live in Minnesota as well
love this that's the way to deal with hate.
I'm only 15 and I'm a fully trained tree surgeon and I know that there was nothing rong with those tecnices
keep the vids coming Stan there so helpful and informative.
and to all the "no it all's" get a life and stop hating on stuff
garden of egan
Your going to get yourself hurt if you’re following the techniques Stan demonstrated. Please for your safety and the lives of others get some experience from real tree professionals, watch some arborist channels such as Bucking Billie / Human
The first felling cut was wrong the whole way through omg lol
keep up to bee funni it work for you and wat is the best snow plow is the best and
Videos I want to see? How to use explosives to remove bolders.
I could not tell which was the Right Way and the Wrong Way to cut down a tree- both ways looked massively dangerous.
I needed this vid before I almost got crushed by a tree and almost cut my leg
Not in the same day
"SAFETY!" the most pressed word says the 4 fingered shop teacher.
Stan, road trip down to Stewartville and cut some trees with me at Bluff Country Tree Service LLC. I can offer some tips and tricks to improve safety and efficiency. Bottom line is you got the job accomplished with no injuries, but this is dangerous work and while we can't totally eliminate all risk, with the proper techniques we can mitigate that risk to an acceptable level.
Oh my God leave the saw work to somebody that knows how to or I should say the professionals before somebody dies it don't take much when everything you do is wrong.
Why on earth don't you leave some hinge (or holding) wood? That keeps the fall under directional control. Why to you over cut when doing your notch? The top and bottom cuts should come together exactly so that they don't bust out the hinge (which you don't have anyway).
husqvarna echo stihl etc offer videos too
So, yes, I am late in the day to comment - but, Mistake #1 is: don't work till your so tired you make the worst mistake, drop the still moving chain on your leg because your tired. My son nearly bleed to death after the chain went into his thigh. He and dad were 45 min from the nearest help. He lived to tell the tale and has a wicked scar for the show. There is no good reason to work foolishly.
Why don't you put an angle in your back cut?? It has saved me once or twice!! May pinch the saw but won't fall the wrong direction!
You do not know how to drop a tree you obviously left a huge dutchman one that first tree
Nice vid!
Mistake #3.5, that's a huge Dutchman, there's no proper hinging this way
At home cutting so you said dont do this at home well ive been doing it at home
dead tress ...how to ..surrounded by electric cables ...yeah how to please so when I get the offers I can tell who knows the right ways
8:30 - is that a black fox in the fence behind you???
If this guy is cutting trees wrong people would be super angry watching me. Shorts and a undershirt up a 32 foot ladder with a bow saw - scrambled down the ladder before half a tree trunk fell and slid down the side rails of a ladder lol. I made it out in time tho
Landscapers should really leaf the tree's alone. That is Arboist's job!!!
lol love it
Hire a Pro!
Stan, Jubert Tree in Saint Louis Park. Call us! : )
i do not use a chainsaw even though i own one i am 12 and it was a christmas present but i still prefer the axe
Mate, you are the man when it comes to walls, but you should "bough out" on trees. Everything you are teaching here is wrong. And dangerous. If you line up your cuts, when the tree starts to fall it might slide backwards. That's why you create a level, stepped cut. If you cut through your hinge and don't leave a clean "V", the tree can fall any direction at all.
Holy crap That isn't how you cut the tree. You want hinge wood left on the stump. Omg you're going to get someone hurt
Yea should’ve added that he OVERLAPPED THE FK outa backcut n face big no no u will not have a hinge at all
maybe you should show how to PROPERLY cut down a tree, when felling a tree you want to cut 2-4 in. above the notch, not even to the notch.
Bypass cutting dutchmens on a conventional notch. I love living life on the edge too.
50% Polish and 50% Polish...
That make a total of about 36% Polish altogether amirite?
The tree would fall the right if his first cut lined up with his wedge cut as there is no hinge wood to direct the tree
There SHOULD be an inch to 3” hinge to control the fell. Check with a professional timber feller and give out safer information. Finally...most people with a chainsaw in the shed are not qualified to cut down a tree safely! Yeah..there are professionals
Oldest saw is a 1979 homelite XL 12 chainsaw.