Islam’s Origins: Myth and Material Evidence
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- Опубліковано 2 кві 2019
- The traditional narrative of Islam’s origins centers on the career of the prophet Muhammad (d. 632 CE) in Arabia and the rapid spread of his movement throughout the Near East immediately after his death. Over the past half-century, however, scholars have come to realize that this picture is the product of the Islamic community of the eighth, ninth, and later centuries and that its goal of providing a satisfying narrative may not accurately reflect how Islam actually began and grew into the major world religion we know today. In this lecture, Fred M. Donner argues that a more historically accurate view of Islam’s origins has been hindered by the scarcity of documentary evidence from the seventh century and considers some of the key sources that may help us understand these momentous events in Islamic history.
00:04:44 Mecca with the Kaaba was polytheistic
00:07:00 Muhammad recites Quran and dies before a written Quran is completed
00:10:14 Mecca wanted Muhammad out. Yathrib (Medina) invited Muhammad over
00:13:50 Yathrib and local expansion
00:15:56 Islamic expansion
00:18:34 Problems with Muslim narrative
00:21:14 No one knows the beginning of Islam because there is no good evidence
00:24:14 Timeline of evidence sources
00:24:42 Quran likely underwent 'evolution' until about year 700
00:26:45 Early copy of Quran from the 7th century
00:28:19 What was this text from a scholar point of view
00:30:08 Problems with early written Arabic (early Quran)
00:33:10 Believers Movement
00:37:01 Documentary evidence that Islam mingled with other 'pious' groups (Jews, Christians)
00:46:04 Islam as we now know it starts around the years 690-700 (fishing; renaming; word use)
00:50:26 How modern science collect documentary evidence
00:57:23 Interview starts
00:57:46 Q1 Does finding new things make you buzzed?
01:01:24 Q2 How do modern Muslims view your work?
01:03:45 Q3 Are the Hadith still up for interpretation with new evidence?
01:07:40 Q4 Compare historical scholar types
01:10:56 Q5 Climate evidence of volcanos causing the up rise of Islam?
01:13:31 Q6 Why did the Believers not differ too much with other pious monotheists?
01:17:24 Q7 What led the Believers requiring to have to work with others and then stop?
01:21:38 Q8 Opportunities in Germany for Islamic studies...
01:25:45 Q9 Institutionalized Islam... Sufism?
01:29:09 Q10 Line between mystic and historic Muhammad
After you die, you'll know the truth.
Thank you 👍
Thank you ❤️
MVP
Yeah this lecture is lacking
interesting lecture and talk. I thought I was unfamiliar with this guy, and then I was trying to tell my mom about what I was "learning"... about the "creation of Islam"... from this video, about a professor from Chicago studying arabic texts in Germany and Vienna, and then my mom asks "Is it Fred Donner? He's ___'s husband" oh wow lol! The professor's wife is one of my mom's best friends hahaha! crazy ;p
This was so interesting and fun 😆 !
Can you tell us why he has a patch of blue hair, please?
Well you should tell your mother that this guy is lying about Islam, if you want to learn about something ask it's people, you don't learn math from a literature teacher. also if you want to learn about a religion read it's book and see if it looks like the word of god or the word of men.
@@thefakewitchdoctor It looks like the result of an accident. Or maybe he wants to show some solidarity with the "woke" ?
The blue hair?
I so much appreciate this type of exchange of information. So many talks on UA-cam are adversarial and distracting.
could somebody tell me what he is saying at 01:00:54 - 01:01:00 . I am not native speaker and I try to follow from subtitle. But at the time, I can't comprhened.
“they’re still not open, we do not know what is inside them” English is my first language and that was hard to understand 😂
Came for the blue hair, stayed for the lecture.
same
I was like is it just me of the camera angle?
There's blue hair?
Islam is the most dangerous belief in the world👿
It's a curse to Humanity.
God Save this World from threat of islam
@@thenationalist02 Muslims see you as the enemy so what makes your opinion right? Are you Christian?
Lecturer: any questions?
Audience: everybody raises their hands
Lecturer: any question not about my blue hair?
Audience: everybody lowers their hands
Man...I need answers too...I thought I was seeing things..
What’s the answer?
Blue hair. Why not?
@@lm7092 stop making me laugh 😆
I am wondering if that was some sort of political statement or a really terrible style choice.
Imagine having to give this presentation 20 minutes after your granddaughter gives you a surprise makeover. Excellent composer given the circumstances.
Did she make his hair blue on the right side?
@@ArchKomposer yeah. Goofy granddaughter. I mean no full grown adult male would decide to die their own hair blue. Had to be his granddaughter right?
Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. And terrorists (puppets of the Antichrist) who misinterpret verses, out of ignorance and political motivations, and take them out of historical context (just like radical atheists do by the way), don't help either. Thank you very much for your time.
Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them).
Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy.
Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).
Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning!
Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures.
Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement.
It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them.
(19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad)..
Salam (Peace) -----------------
Excellent narrative the best among the recent scholars,objective and fair congratulations ❤❤🎉
Nah, he just uses one of those old-style ink pens with an ink well and did not notice he got ink on his hands and brushed back his hair.
The big problem with a lot of the archived materials is the missing digitalisation and online availability for everybody. This slows down the research worldwide. The decision to rather spend billions on other projects is taken by governments and the archive custodians. Some simply want to keep a control and power. To humiliate humans who must surrender and crawl on the doorsteps of their treasure vaults. With lengthy procedures and appointments. Nothing of this will be required if the stuff they hoard since centuries is finally made accessible in a dignifying fashion appropriate for a 21st century. And that these archive prison guards show more respect and less arrogance towards the millions of smart humans who will be able to discover far more in the collections than what a jealous bureaucratic hoarder will be able to read out between his coffee pauses, lunch times and holidays. Not to forget here that restrictions due to copy rights and cash grabbing business of state owned archives have to be terminated. For the sake of human right to its past without kisses to the feet of the archive priesthood.
you are a legend
Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. And terrorists (puppets of the Antichrist) who misinterpret verses, out of ignorance and political motivations, and take them out of historical context (just like radical atheists do by the way), don't help either. Thank you very much for your time.
Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them).
Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy.
Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).
Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning!
Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures.
Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement.
It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them.
(19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad)..
Salam (Peace) -----------------
@@islamisthetruewaytogod6812
Science without religion is lame and religion without science is blind.
@@islamisthetruewaytogod6812 Thank you for so knowledgeably, truthfully and eloquently presenting the TRUTH to all who look for the truth with an open heart and mind.
Atheists mock God "apparently God speaks Arabic...." as was said here and either through ignorance or intent to distort historical information are surely the lowest of the low since they inadvertently, or with true intent do the very same work of the accursed Satan who has vowed to bring mankind down and away from the belief and faith in One True God and all His messengers from our Father Adam all the way down to the last and final Messenger and Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).
My blood was literally boiling listening to this lecture and I am so happy I found someone who spoke the truth in this regard.
May Allah guide all those sincere people who seek truth to The Truth...AMEEN.
@@jairajsingh2983 What does your comment actually mean, anyway.?
The first part of it, makes no sense, and as for the second part, modern 20th century science proves the very existence of God, as these numerous scientific discoveries are present in the Quran. God created everything in existence , the Universe and all that's in it. Science is just a human word given to a human explanation to limited himan knowledge of our existence.
Look into ......"Scientific Miracles in the Qur'an "
He is doing the blue streak challenge for diabetes.. a simple Google search revealed it. I didn't know either.
Right on, I would’ve had a hard time taking him seriously if this was just his day to day hairdo lol
@@triggerwarning2982
I will admit at first glance it can be disconcerting.....
People look ridiculous anyways in any case. That is how my dog thinks about human apes.
Juuso Hämäläinen What a moronic statement. Do you think you can read your dogs mind? You sound like the son of Sam.
What’s your view on morality? Are morals objective or subjective in your opinion?
@@triggerwarning2982 Do you think anything as ugly as a human looks good? Dog is man's best friend hence we have a special mental connection between us which women never can understand. Think about that..
Arabic pronunciation is surprisingly refined.
What was said at 20:17? The audio drops out.
The "lawyer'' at 1 hour 11 minute mark couldn't ask a simple and clear question when given 2 chances to do so.
Where and when did the current Islamic characteristics of religious murder and sadism arise?
From the beginning.
It is so rare to hear scholarship about early Islamic history. Very dangerous work.
He omits Persian sources an entire family of ancient sources from the enemies of the Muslims that corroborate.. .
No it isn't.
Slowly but surely the truth prevails..
Refer Qur'an 17:81.
The knowledge is there.. you need only seek God with an open heart.. the God that created ALL and has no son or partner or advisor.. ALLAH to whom we All shall verily return
@@IslamMohamedSafiyyudin These questions are not about God, they are not questions about God, these questions are about HISTORY. Meditating about God will help you learn about God. To learn about history, you need to study human beings.
33.00 and how many times is the word man / human beings used. As sometimes the addresses are believers and sometimes just human beings. ??
I just played the video can anyone tell me what's the blue dye on the guy's hair?!
@1:17:50 She said the Muslims "believed in one God and that God being Muhammad". This is so wrong. Muslims never think Muhammad as their God. He is their prophet, only a messenger of the God.
tipical stupid person tries to show that she know somthing but by diong soo they show how dume they are hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Yeah but muhammad created allah not otherwise
So she's actually right. Allah isn't real. Muhammad existed.
@@ironlake8944 Cool story bro
@Thunderous One Btw in the company that i use to work. I help my boss conveying some instructions to my colleagues and they did obeyed what i said.
In conclusion i have equal or higher authority than my boss.
Correct me if i am wrong!!
As far as i know, In the Quran, there was a very clear distinction given between the believers(muslims) and Non muslims(christians and jews) who were referred to as “the people of the book”.
There is literally a list of traits for a person to be a rightfull believer mentioned in the Quran itself.
Not quite... My understanding is that within the Quraan, anyone can be defined as a Muslim as long as they are righteous, belive in the last day, and in god regardless of their faith...
@@ems8290 Not Really. One can be a Muslim only when he accepts that there is only one God that is Allah and Allah’s messenger that is Mohammed. All others are Kafirs and Kafirs can live only if they pay Jizia. The other option is death by a Sword. People like you either knowingly spread a wrong information to pain Islam in a palatable form. Islam is not a religion per Se. It is a Militant Political Ideology. There is no place for Spirituality or Humanity in Islam.
@@Surabi9 Quranically that’s not the case! This definition as per what you heard is a later definition which seems to have evolved… however within the quraan your definition isn’t the case
In fact, you are wrong,
Coran is just a pile of shit designed to control loww minded persons, are you one of them ???
The ball is in your hand.
If you are dumb and fall for it....
Accept a life of submission and darkness
Just live your life, dont wait fir others to tell you how to think, how to feel, how to think
@@paspep sure… I hope you have a good life my friend
Interesting lecture. Is there any significance in the blue hair?
For the uninitiated this is in most universities : Paper101 History of Islam. No myths discussed.
Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. And terrorists (puppets of the Antichrist) who misinterpret verses, out of ignorance and political motivations, and take them out of historical context (just like radical atheists do by the way), don't help either. Thank you very much for your time.
Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them).
Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy.
Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).
Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning!
Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures.
Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement.
It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them.
(19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad)..
Salam (Peace) -----------------
Nice! Although I would like you to re-examine the concept that God is sending prophets throughout time, but then stops at Prophet Muhammed (peace be upon Him).
Sure ! You wrote the current dogma, defined by the Abbassids. The very early arab believers were having another dogma. They were a sort of not rabbinic jews following an anti chalcedonic christianity, precisely Nasaras, arabs Nasaras. Nasara doest stand for Christian. They were nasara muhajirun who joined at Hijra, to call the Ghassanids armees to destroy the byzantium armees and take the control of Jerusalem. That is why the 1st real organisation was located in Damascus, by Muawyia 1st. Even the first shahada was not mentionning the rassul.
Again, the powerful dogma came 200 years later with Al Hajjaj and Al Mamun.
That dogma required to say that THE gospel was a corrupted Qur'an. But this gospel was the Diatessaron of the Nasara.
There are almost 150 different gospels, and nobody pretends that they were written by god and corrupted..., only the story of one guy : Issa. Not more.
The concept of chirk who defines the Massiyun, comes later as a construction of power. Nothing to do with faith.
I think worth you, muminun, to revisit your dogma. You are likely cousins to us in this great story.
Since I read that the moon was split in two, without historical proof or witnesses (other than muslims), i ve become very critical.
on judgement day moon will be split reread verse
its funny that something like splitting the moon no historian could see , but Muslims belief that it is a miracle
lil hammad really? I reread (Versus 54: 1-2) According to the companions of Mohamed, he performed that miracle to show pagans that islam was the ”true” religion.
Where should I reread?
@@lauragf.9206 verse refers to the endgames. moon will be split in two...you just need a little reading comprehension
@@lilhammad9214 the only thing that splits in two is the mount of olives on the day when Jesus returns
Anyone else think that his voice is similar to Bob Newhart's?
Isaiah 42:11 Let the wilderness and its towns raise their voices ( thats the call of the prayer ) ( Athan )
Let them shout from mountaintops 42:11 that's Muslims during pilgrimage to Mecca google image ( day of Arafat )
( Sela mountain ) mentioned in Isaiah 42:11 is in ( Madina ) city of prophet Mohamad ( Google map it )
( kedar ) mentioned in Isaiah 42:11 that's the arabs kedar is the 2nd son of Ishmael son of Abraham you can find in genesis 25:13
Ezekiel 27:21
Arabia and all the princes of Kedar were your customers; they did business with you in lambs, rams and goats.
Genesis 25:13
These are the names of the sons of Ishmael, listed in the order of their birth: Nebaioth the firstborn of Ishmael, ( Kedar ) , Adbeel, Mibsam
biblehub.com/isaiah/42-11.htm
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32:05 - You don't need to be a believer to be a Muslim!!! Islam does NOT mean SUBMISSION, but SURRENDER!!! If Islam means 'surrender' then Muslim means 'one who surrendered.' Submission ≠ Surrender. Submission is voluntary, internal or private. Surrender is involuntary, public or political (Islam/surrender/ أَسْلَمْنَا /aslamna - in Quranic terminology is a military term). Therefore, you don't need to be a believer to be a Muslim!!!... See - verse Quran 49:14 - The Bedouins say, 'We believe.' Say: 'You do not believe; rather say, "We surrender"; for belief has not yet entered your hearts. If you obey God and His Messenger, He will not diminish you anything of your works. God is All-forgiving, All-compassionate. (Arberry translation)
قَالَتِ الْأَعْرَابُ آمَنَّا ۖ قُلْ لَمْ تُؤْمِنُوا وَلَٰكِنْ قُولُوا أَسْلَمْنَا وَلَمَّا يَدْخُلِ الْإِيمَانُ فِي قُلُوبِكُمْ ۖ وَإِنْ تُطِيعُوا اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ لَا يَلِتْكُمْ مِنْ أَعْمَالِكُمْ شَيْئًا ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ غَفُورٌ رَحِيمٌ
18:15 by the way, the conquest was possible because of the bloodiest war ever between Byzantine and Sasanid Empire right before the Arab invasion. Persia was in ruin at that moment. East Roman Empire managed to repel Arab attacks since it was about to win war against Sasanid.
Read chapter rum chapter 30. It talks about romans(rum) and sassanids and how the defeat will happen within few years. Prophet Muhammad was the greatest leader ever BECUASE not only did he come with a message of god but he lead and was a general of an army that become the superpower.
Green 💚 colour hair..
Islam is formed with Forces, Swords ⚔️, Bullets, Killings, means all are Converted from other religions.
No self ideology,,No laws,, Only Men's are rulling,, Womens are tortured,, Womens are machines for producing 20,30, 50 childrens.. Talak TALAK Talak 3 words to destroy Women's,,,
Interested in 72 HOORS with very big size Breast....Ladies have no place in society.
Hum converted SUWARS Hai.
Hum KALAMA Padhate hai...
Huma-me JAJABA hai...
Hum TALAK de sakate hai...
Hum HALALA bhee karate hai(enjoyment)...
72 HOORS with big boobs for us...
We can produce 20/30/50 kids , hamara Penis عضو تناسل Powerful Hai(4/6 wives)...
Kya huwa, hamare bachche بچے Pancharwala Beggers Hotel worker Butcher Riksha puller hai to,, JIHADI bhee hai, inshallah....
@@atifsyed9283 - Muhammad was DEAD before the armies of the believers left the Arabian peninsula, according to later Muslim historiography. True is that Eastern Rome and Sassanides had conducted long wars against each other just before the Islamic conquest.
@@Achill101 yes even tho he died before the great expansion but he was the power force behind uniting all of Arab tribes resulting in the power they had. For example in a saying he said verily we shall conquer Constantinople what a great leader it will be and what a great army that army will be. During his time and for the next 600-800 years it was unimaginable to even think about Constantinople but finally in 1400s it was taken. Mehmets motivating cause was this saying hence you will find this saying on a plaque in Istanbul hagia sofia. Peace be with you.
@@Achill101 also yes even tho they had become weak but what’s amazing is what I had mentioned in my original comment. Chapter rum (30) it says Roman’s have been defeated in nearby land but within 3-9 years they will triumph and exactly that happened Roman’s relapsed and took triumph. I’m not arguing with you. I’m just presenting you the truth. Behind Islam. Read it with passion and honesty and you’ll see it’s not a enemy religion but the truth.
1:02:12 an open minded Indonesian here... interested on the truth about the historical origin of Islam... Tremendously fascinating and interesting lecture professor. Thank you for your work Mr. Donner...
Kisah di dalam Al-Quran.
[Number 1] The Seven Sleeper
Quran 18:1-26 The story of The Seven Sleeper.
Mengisahkan ttg 7 askar Kristian yg bersembunyi di gua.
Penulis asal : Syrian bishop Jacob of Serugh (450 - 521)A.D
[Number 2 ] Kisah Al-Khidr (The Green)
Quran 18:65-82 The Story of Al-Khidr
Penulis asal : Jewish Rabbi Joshua Ben Levi(300AD)
Book : Jewish Legends
Al-Khidr juga wujud dlm dongeng org persia(dikenali dgn khizr), dongeng India, Greek, Eropah utara etc..
[Number 3] Fountain of Youth
Quran 76:1-36
Mengisahkan ttg pancur air abadi di negara alam mistik bernama negara Bimini.
Penulis asal : Herodotus (500BC) dan juga ditulis oleh penulis unknown pada 300AD dalam buku "Alexandre Romance (Latin)"
@Asadul Hasan Rasel Carbon dating is not an efficient method in aging. One of the 3 labs decided that these manuscripts go back to before muhamad birth. Bart Erhman admits in his book misquoting Jesus that the few translations/copying mistakes he found do not affect any of the basic Christianity believes such as the Holy Trinity, that Jesus is our ONLY LORD/GOD, his birth, his death on the Holy Cross, his resurrection. Only few Human typos and extremely few mistranslated words over about 4000 years of narration & 2000 of translations. The Birmingham copy is not the complete quran just a few pages of it.
@Asadul Hasan Rasel Every item carbon-dated is done in 3 different labs at the same time and each one of them dates such items differently than the other two labs. Each lab is very sure that his results are the best among the three different results. Try it yourself, take a piece of wood, leather, papers, fabric, pottery, etc.. without telling them the age of such item and let them age it. You will see, by yourself, that they will age it few hundred (maybe thousand) years old although it is a new item. Also, don't count on the BBC documentaries. BBC is fake media and almost 100% run by atheists/leftists who are financed by the British government.
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@@ibatan4336 lol so you are saying science is wrong, carbon dating is wrong, looool, that quran was not a few pages, it was THE WHOLE BOOK, do you have a 2000 years old BIBLE ?? max you can find a 500 years old, 66 gospels "inspired" by a holy spirit ... 6000 years old earth.... a prayer to jesus stopped the SUN AND THE MOON, but not the EARTH, witch means that BIBLE says the sun rotates around the earth .... LOL LMAO
Thanks to him for describing the arduous process of earlier hadith scholars sorting out the hadith collections.
@CNN is Fake News haha fake news. Go f yourself. Be little serious clown
Al Hadid of the Hades!
@@koroglurustem1722 he is correct. Mecca is suppose to to be Abraham's place of origin but the pilgrimage is to Jerusalem combined into one. Marwa and Safa, where do you think they are located? They are Mt. Scopus and Mt. Moriah in Jerusalem. Who puts Marwa and Safa at Jerusalem, the very names that Muslims think are mountains in Saudi Arabia? Josephus, the 1st century historian. Jahannam in the Quran is Gehenna, where the apocalypse is suppose to take place. Bakkah in the Quran is mentioned in the Bible as a rest stop to Jerusalem. Islam at it's core is based on Judeo-Christian traditions but heavily distorted by political factors where Muslims have no idea where their religion comes from. They think it came from a prophet named Muhammad but if you notice in the Quran, you get no real information about Muhammad as prophet but you come across Jesus plenty of times. The Dome of Rock inscriptions is about Jesus with no information who is MHMD as an individual but when you consider the subject matter, MHMD is most certainly Jesus. Jesus is the messenger of Allah. The Christology of Jesus matches well with Nestorian Christology that Jesus has two full natures and they are not intermixed. The historical "Islamic Muhammad" of the Arab conquests, at best, was Walid ibn Khalid, who was called Al Farooq, the Redeemer, the Savior, the one who divides between good , and bad, also known as Umar. Contemporary sources put "Islamic Muhammad" at the wrong place and at the wrong time.
@@samuelmorales2344 thanks for your uncooked half baked ideas, rather daydreams
@@koroglurustem1722 how are they half-baked? You don't make any sense. It is pretty clear that Muhammad of Islam was invented 2 centuries later. Invented with many hadiths and siras and the scholars wettled down the material to create Islam. Muhammad the miracle man in Sahih Muslim to Gnostic Muhammad who existed before Adam. The Dome of Rock is dedicated to Jesus. It tells a full narrative of Jesus the prophet. There is no Islamic Muhammad in it. There is no angel Gabriel, the caves of Hira, none of that. It is all Jesus.
His grand daughters came over on the weekend and thought this was an excellent idea. His toe nails are pink. That tea party was off the charts.
As I went through the comments, I knew that I'm not the one who realised that he has blue hairs on one part of his hair which I thought some kind of my computer screen glitches.
He turned his hair blue for the #BlueStreakChallenge which aims to brings awareness to Diabetes Awareness Month
P(;ACE..
Gary Wills, "What the Qur'an Meant: And Why It Matters"
ua-cam.com/video/ulK5re6b52g/v-deo.html
Prof. John Esposito
ua-cam.com/video/E6cKvPo4Dv8/v-deo.html&490
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"my choice of muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular level."
* Michael H. Hart, the 100: a ranking of the most influential persons in history, new york: hart publishing company, inc., 1978, p. 33.
2.bp.blogspot.com/-aaPI77gZaUA/VSSN-AjittI/AAAAAAAADYs/WTForJ2bALo/s1600/pdfbooksinfo.blogspot.com
www.amazon.com/100-Ranking-Influential-Persons-History/dp/0806513500/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=MICHAEL+H+HART
>> www.unf.edu/~n00006757/astronomylectures/The%20100.pdf
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"muhammad is the most successful of all prophets and religious personalities."
* In the Encyclopedia Britannica
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"it is impossible for anyone who studies the life and character of the great prophet of arabia, who knows how he taught and how he lived, to feel anything but reverence for that mighty prophet, one of the great messengers of the supreme. and although in what i put to you i shall say many things which may be familiar to many, yet i myself feel whenever i re-read them, a new way of admiration, a new sense of reverence for that mighty arabian teacher."
* annie besant, the life and teachings of muhammad,madras,1932, p. 4.
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"but do you mean to tell me that the man who in the full flush of youthful vigour, a young man of four and twenty (24), married a woman much his senior, and remained faithful to her for six and twenty years (26), at fifty years of age when the passions are dying married for lust and sexual passion? not thus are men's lives to be judged. and you look at the women whom he married, you will find that by every one of them an alliance was made for his people, or something was gained for his followers, or the woman was in sore need of protection."
"he was caesar and pope in one; but he was pope without pope's pretensions, caesar without the legions of caesar: without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without a palace, without a fixed revenue; if ever any man had the right to say that he ruled by the right divine, it was mohammed, for he had all the power without its instruments and without its supports."
* bosworth smith, mohammad and mohammadanism, london, 1874, p. 92.
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"the league of nations founded by the prophet of islam put the principle of international unity and human brotherhood on such universal foundations as to show candle to other nations." he continues: "the fact is that no nation of the world can show a parallel to what islam has done towards the realization of the idea of theleague of nations."
* Prof. C. Snouck Hurgronje
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"muhammad was the soul of kindness, and his influence was felt and never forgotten by those around him."
* (Diwan Chand Sharma, the prophets of the east, calcutta, 1935, pp. 12)
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"it is not the propagation but the permanency of his religion that deserves our wonder, the same pure and perfect impression which he engraved at mecca and medina is preserved, after the revolutions of twelve centuries by the indian, the african and the turkish proselytes of the koran. . . the mahometans have uniformly withstood the temptation of reducing the object of their faith an devotion to a level with the senses and imagination of man.
'i believe in one god and mahomet the apostle of god' is the simple and invariable profession of islam. the intellectual image of the deity has never been degraded by any visible idol; the honours of the prophet have never transgressed the measure of human virtue, and his living precepts have restrained the gratitude of his disciples within the bounds of reason and religion."
* Edward Gibbon and Simon Ocklay, History of the saracen empire, london, 1870, p. 54.
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"no great religious leader has been so maligned as prophet mohammed. attacked in the past as a heretic, an impostor, or a sensualist, it is still possible to find him referred to as "the false prophet." a modern german writer accuses prophet mohammed of sensuality, surrounding himself with young women. this man was not married until he was twenty-five years of age, then he and his wife lived in happiness and fidelity for twenty-four years, until her death when he was forty-nine.
only between the age of fifty and his death at sixty-two did prophet mohammed take other wives, only one of whom was a virgin, and most of them were taken for dynastic and political reasons. certainly the prophet's record was better than the head of the church of england, henry viii."
* Geoffrey Parrinder
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"If a man like muhamed were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness."
* George Bernard Shaw
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I thought it was the lighting
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Beautiful lecture, delving into an almost criminally understudied period of history. I hope Dr Donner and others continue this vitally needed scholarship.
He is a Liar.
He doesn't tell you the truth about Islam
Sneakers Corner YT channel has done excellent reasearch tying together various diverse sources with very interesting thesis on Islam's origins.
Lots of work done actually.
@@galaxyamer5656 The Islam scholars wont debate the reality of history of Islam just shout from the side lines the infedel dont tell the truth about Islam . For me roman Catholic the information explains the diversity of Islam believed across the planet and why the Saudi version gets the most traction in certian regions. For the countries that ban the Saudi Islam teachers and Mullaghs they often get a peacefull muslim population. The lectuers from sneakers corner and this lecture explain many of the hidden mechanisms of Islam and make it more possible for non muslim Christians like me to understand the logic of the muslim I deal with such as west african muslims versus Indonesian muslims that have a culturally different type of Islam beliefe . This cultural religious diversity can be seen in even different regions of Europe with Roman Catholic beliefes that differences exist give them . Hopefully in time I can utilise the history to convert Muslims to my religion and Muslims are welcome to try to convert me to Islam but now i have better understanding as to why Muslims wont debate the history often because they cant as they adhere to Ciaro 1926 Koran is perfect logic when there are many Korans and many thousands of differences
@@shiningirisheyes how can you say this
@@shiningirisheyes Converting muslims to believe that their God couldnt forgive Adam and Eve and their offspring until he sent his innocent son to let him die in the hand of his creature. and Halleluja, we are saved. We just have to eat God"s blood and flesh every sundy and baptize our kids because they are born with this etenal sin.
Your belief is the weakest in all abrahamic religions. You dont even have the originals of your bible which is filled with mistakes, historical theological scientific and you name it, endless contradictions. Jesus spoke aramaic and what do you have today? 1000 Bibles for every sect, we have one Koran and I dare you to find two or more. If you are confusing "Arts of recititations" which is like two english speakers with their respective dialect, not other words, and we have the original copies in Birmingham, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Paris etc.. You have the Vulgata, which is in Latin translated from ancient Greek, where is aramaic the language of Jesus, how can we know for sure what he said when we know the history of modifications of your Bible, its like a commercial book with new "embellished and modified versions every couple years.
The Koran and even Sahih Al bukhari und Sahih Muslim are more historical documents than your bible. we aint even sure who actually wrote your gospels, they are affected to Mathew, John, Marcus, Peter without even any evidence. The new testament doesnt support your triniarian belief which is a catholic dogm, like Eucharisty, Baptism, Papa etc.. you have contradictions in stories of "Jesus presenting himself to Paul" who toke it as proof of his mission to change(corrupt) the christian belief from within and insert some strange beliefs like "the alt law doenst apply to you" "Eat what you want" "dont circumcize" etc.. and the dogm of "God is died for your sins, you just have to believe in him and you are saved"-... GOd dying is already an Oxymoron.. the bible itself states that "God is immortal"
So, brother catholic.. which muslims do you want to convert after watching this funny pseudo lecture, that really funny and pathetic. You should maybe look to keep your fellow catholics in the church after the massing leavings due to the sexual scandals of your very "pious" bichops and chruch Fathers. Still want to try to convert muslims?:D
Very impressed . I truly appreciate all the details were given in this lecture. I loved the actual pronunciation for the words used as well in Arabic .
This person definitely went through different places and different countries.
Very appreciated .
meh, its really not impressive you are just lazy and dont want to read some books to get actual knowledge
Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. And terrorists (puppets of the Antichrist) who misinterpret verses, out of ignorance and political motivations, and take them out of historical context (just like radical atheists do by the way), don't help either. Thank you very much for your time.
Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them).
Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy.
Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).
Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning!
Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures.
Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement.
It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them.
(19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad)..
Salam (Peace) -----------------
@@islamisthetruewaytogod6812 Come back and say that after islam merges with the catholic church and the jews and the hindus and the rest of the deceivers. There is truth in everything but not everything is true
Cursed criminal murderer profit instigated the genocide of over 300 million innocent humans and turned into desert vast fertile regions in the world.
Son of God does not mean that God has a child in Christianity!
*what a mistake in the Qur'an!*
Son of God is a title referring to the Word of God!
Those bits and pieces resemble that of the year 325 when The Bible was chosen from a lot of writings in Nicea.
About the climate question ~1:10-1:13. The years 535-536 saw the most extreme climate the last 2000 years, probably from vulcanic eruption. This affected communities in the north more thought, maybe 50% of population in Scandinavia starved to death, than in the ME.
Furthermore, there is no need to seek for climate catastrophe. Since Islam rose against the backdrop of the Justinian plague 541-549 AD and against the backdrop of the terrible devastating horrible war between the Sassanids and Byzantine empire 572-591 that laid waste to the ME.
So, the question had some foundation but was overall pretty uninformed.
Some good points you are making.
U clearly state abattle between the Persians and romans that happened 8yrs prior to the conquest andforget the
Rida wars fought by the caliphate in arabia at its juvenile stages. So tell me what you say about that
@@muhammedali2578 The question I was commenting. Was speculating about a destabalizing climate catastrophe paving the way for the Arab explosion.
My answer is that no such climate catastrophy is necessary. The war between the Sassanid Empire and the Roman Empire depleted their resouces. But more importantly, delegitimized them in the Levant. The war seesawed back and forth, back and forth, across the Levant. First the Sassanids sacking a city. Then a year after, the Romans sacking that city. Then the Sassanids sacking and massmurdering again. I believe that this terrible war made many people in the Levant feel an utter disgust with these two outside powers that devastated THEIR region but were not based there. So, this is a much better explanation than a climate catastrophe.
The early battles described in Muslim tradition are neither here nor there for this particular question. They do not affect the discussion about the conditions that preceded for the rise of Islam/the Arab empire. The early battles from Muslim tradition describe the actual process of the establishment of the rule of Islam / the Arab Empire. So, different question.
P(;ACE..
Gary Wills, "What the Qur'an Meant: And Why It Matters"
ua-cam.com/video/ulK5re6b52g/v-deo.html
Prof. John Esposito
ua-cam.com/video/E6cKvPo4Dv8/v-deo.html&490
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"my choice of muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular level."
* Michael H. Hart, the 100: a ranking of the most influential persons in history, new york: hart publishing company, inc., 1978, p. 33.
2.bp.blogspot.com/-aaPI77gZaUA/VSSN-AjittI/AAAAAAAADYs/WTForJ2bALo/s1600/pdfbooksinfo.blogspot.com
www.amazon.com/100-Ranking-Influential-Persons-History/dp/0806513500/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=MICHAEL+H+HART
>> www.unf.edu/~n00006757/astronomylectures/The%20100.pdf
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"muhammad is the most successful of all prophets and religious personalities."
* In the Encyclopedia Britannica
________________________________________________________________________________
"it is impossible for anyone who studies the life and character of the great prophet of arabia, who knows how he taught and how he lived, to feel anything but reverence for that mighty prophet, one of the great messengers of the supreme. and although in what i put to you i shall say many things which may be familiar to many, yet i myself feel whenever i re-read them, a new way of admiration, a new sense of reverence for that mighty arabian teacher."
* annie besant, the life and teachings of muhammad,madras,1932, p. 4.
________________________________________________________________________________
"but do you mean to tell me that the man who in the full flush of youthful vigour, a young man of four and twenty (24), married a woman much his senior, and remained faithful to her for six and twenty years (26), at fifty years of age when the passions are dying married for lust and sexual passion? not thus are men's lives to be judged. and you look at the women whom he married, you will find that by every one of them an alliance was made for his people, or something was gained for his followers, or the woman was in sore need of protection."
"he was caesar and pope in one; but he was pope without pope's pretensions, caesar without the legions of caesar: without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without a palace, without a fixed revenue; if ever any man had the right to say that he ruled by the right divine, it was mohammed, for he had all the power without its instruments and without its supports."
* bosworth smith, mohammad and mohammadanism, london, 1874, p. 92.
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"the league of nations founded by the prophet of islam put the principle of international unity and human brotherhood on such universal foundations as to show candle to other nations." he continues: "the fact is that no nation of the world can show a parallel to what islam has done towards the realization of the idea of theleague of nations."
* Prof. C. Snouck Hurgronje
________________________________________________________________________________
"muhammad was the soul of kindness, and his influence was felt and never forgotten by those around him."
* (Diwan Chand Sharma, the prophets of the east, calcutta, 1935, pp. 12)
________________________________________________________________________________
"it is not the propagation but the permanency of his religion that deserves our wonder, the same pure and perfect impression which he engraved at mecca and medina is preserved, after the revolutions of twelve centuries by the indian, the african and the turkish proselytes of the koran. . . the mahometans have uniformly withstood the temptation of reducing the object of their faith an devotion to a level with the senses and imagination of man.
'i believe in one god and mahomet the apostle of god' is the simple and invariable profession of islam. the intellectual image of the deity has never been degraded by any visible idol; the honours of the prophet have never transgressed the measure of human virtue, and his living precepts have restrained the gratitude of his disciples within the bounds of reason and religion."
* Edward Gibbon and Simon Ocklay, History of the saracen empire, london, 1870, p. 54.
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"no great religious leader has been so maligned as prophet mohammed. attacked in the past as a heretic, an impostor, or a sensualist, it is still possible to find him referred to as "the false prophet." a modern german writer accuses prophet mohammed of sensuality, surrounding himself with young women. this man was not married until he was twenty-five years of age, then he and his wife lived in happiness and fidelity for twenty-four years, until her death when he was forty-nine.
only between the age of fifty and his death at sixty-two did prophet mohammed take other wives, only one of whom was a virgin, and most of them were taken for dynastic and political reasons. certainly the prophet's record was better than the head of the church of england, henry viii."
* Geoffrey Parrinder
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"If a man like muhamed were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness."
* George Bernard Shaw
It helped but still no way in hell these empires would let go of territories of such importance without a fight. Justinian still commanded a formidable army and no doubt could conscription locally.
The presenter sounds a LOT like Bob Newheart. He even has the same cadence.
Haha...I just left he same comment!
Yup
I was listening outside before the Video Started and had to come inside and see who the speaker was lol.
That's it!
I was just thinking of that uncanny resemblance...checked Wikipedia and good Bob is from Illinois...Professor Donner was born in DC and grew up in NJ...Perhaps people in Chicago are still watching the reruns......
Most of what he called " material evidence" is just "probably and trust me bro"
The reason some of the Meccans didn't want to convert is not because it means their forefathers were in Hell. Rather, it doesn't mean their forefathers are in Hell. Since they did not receive revelation, they couldn't be judged according it, so they will be judged primarily according to their deeds. Rather, the Meccans didn't like how it threatened their monopoly on the pilgramage.
Don't waste your time on reading comments about his blue hair.
better than commenting on fake prophet.
@@gbtusa1325 you’re life is fake bless prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon our prophet best creation of Allah
@@hawamuhdin1344 do you agree, that islam is peace? because if you do, then you don't agree with the killing of aposte. so what will you choose?
@@hawamuhdin1344
Mo was nothing but a criminal and a pedophile and all his crimes are recorded in the Muslim books the qouran and the hadeeth. Islam is an evil wicked cult and should be banned in all western and all civilised countries.
@@gbtusa1325 if you make a claim, support the claim and give evidence. There's more evidence that they have existed and have been messengers than not lol.
I enjoyed your video, full of great info BUT, WTF is up with the BLUE hair bro?
If you want fools to believe what you say you have to dye your hair blue first.
Were you painting before work? Or did you do that on purpose?
People needs to remember history of spain and al-andalus
Prof: "Sorry I'm hard of hearing, could you ask the question again louder and simplified please"
Audience member: *Proceeds to ask a more complicated longer question at the same volume* 🙄
Luckily it was just some crackpot with a loony tunes theory about volcanoes in Nicaragua, nothing of value was lost.
😂😂😂😂😂
ok ur cool
Schizophrenia sure is tough.
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1:00:54 - 1:01:01... was it intentionally censored? I couldn't make out what he said.. but the reaction from the moderator was interesting.
he says "many of those boxes are still not opened, so we don't know what's in them"
Isaiah 42:11 Let the wilderness and its towns raise their voices ( thats the call of the prayer ) ( Athan )
Let them shout from mountaintops 42:11 that's Muslims during pilgrimage to Mecca google image ( day of Arafat )
( Sela mountain ) mentioned in Isaiah 42:11 is in ( Madina ) city of prophet Mohamad ( Google map it )
( kedar ) mentioned in Isaiah 42:11 that's the arabs kedar is the 2nd son of Ishmael son of Abraham you can find in genesis 25:13
Ezekiel 27:21
Arabia and all the princes of Kedar were your customers; they did business with you in lambs, rams and goats.
Genesis 25:13
These are the names of the sons of Ishmael, listed in the order of their birth: Nebaioth the firstborn of Ishmael, ( Kedar ) , Adbeel, Mibsam
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The monotone soothes me into slumber 🤣. Can't finish this one.
Thank you for this most helpful and insightful lecture by someone who clearly has approached matters from the genuine research efforts to find historical truth! Much appreciated . More please.
I haven’t watched it yet, but it seems to me that a large population wanted their own hero instead of worshipping another.
@@CorePathway what?
@@muhammadeisa1459 People must be able to closely relate to a Prophet to use them to find God. When Europeans co-opted Jesus and made their iconography into their ideal: blond haired blue eyes fair skinned, the Prophet Muhammad grew from the same Abrahamic roots to appeal to a different population, one who had the background and traditions to appeal to a different population. I believe there have been many Prophet and saints. Zoroaster, Krishna, Gilgamesh, and countless others lost to time. God did not ignore the peoples of Asia, South America, Indonesia, China, Russia for millennia. He appeared to them and through their prophets and saints. The Baghavad Gita specifically explains how it’s easier for people to connect with an incarnation of Divinity than it is to worship the Oneness, the Unity of everything. For the peoples of the Middle East the Prophet Muhammad is that incarnation of Divinity. That’s what my belief and opinion is.
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''WHAT?''
Islam is a cheap rip off from the existing monotheisms, M0h4mm3d was an obvious liar, rapist, thief and murderer if you read the texts.
All these mainstream religions come from a time when scientific understanding was so poor that for example ‘witches’ were burned alive for causing hail storms, and people were possessed with the devil when in reality they were suffering from epilepsy. So… let’s take all these religious with a humongous pinch of salt shall we.
Admitting there is no god, examining evolutionary biology, comprehending the vastness and coldness of the universe, understanding how long it took life to evolve (millions of years, millions and millions of years) facing your fears and the harsh cold realities that life is a fluke - is the true enlightenment, rather than burying your head in sand with religions.
Thanks for all those blue hair comment, I thought my screen was going funny.
P(;ACE..
Gary Wills, "What the Qur'an Meant: And Why It Matters"
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Prof. John Esposito
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"my choice of muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular level."
* Michael H. Hart, the 100: a ranking of the most influential persons in history, new york: hart publishing company, inc., 1978, p. 33.
2.bp.blogspot.com/-aaPI77gZaUA/VSSN-AjittI/AAAAAAAADYs/WTForJ2bALo/s1600/pdfbooksinfo.blogspot.com
www.amazon.com/100-Ranking-Influential-Persons-History/dp/0806513500/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=MICHAEL+H+HART
>> www.unf.edu/~n00006757/astronomylectures/The%20100.pdf
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"muhammad is the most successful of all prophets and religious personalities."
* In the Encyclopedia Britannica
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"it is impossible for anyone who studies the life and character of the great prophet of arabia, who knows how he taught and how he lived, to feel anything but reverence for that mighty prophet, one of the great messengers of the supreme. and although in what i put to you i shall say many things which may be familiar to many, yet i myself feel whenever i re-read them, a new way of admiration, a new sense of reverence for that mighty arabian teacher."
* annie besant, the life and teachings of muhammad,madras,1932, p. 4.
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"but do you mean to tell me that the man who in the full flush of youthful vigour, a young man of four and twenty (24), married a woman much his senior, and remained faithful to her for six and twenty years (26), at fifty years of age when the passions are dying married for lust and sexual passion? not thus are men's lives to be judged. and you look at the women whom he married, you will find that by every one of them an alliance was made for his people, or something was gained for his followers, or the woman was in sore need of protection."
"he was caesar and pope in one; but he was pope without pope's pretensions, caesar without the legions of caesar: without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without a palace, without a fixed revenue; if ever any man had the right to say that he ruled by the right divine, it was mohammed, for he had all the power without its instruments and without its supports."
* bosworth smith, mohammad and mohammadanism, london, 1874, p. 92.
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"the league of nations founded by the prophet of islam put the principle of international unity and human brotherhood on such universal foundations as to show candle to other nations." he continues: "the fact is that no nation of the world can show a parallel to what islam has done towards the realization of the idea of theleague of nations."
* Prof. C. Snouck Hurgronje
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"muhammad was the soul of kindness, and his influence was felt and never forgotten by those around him."
* (Diwan Chand Sharma, the prophets of the east, calcutta, 1935, pp. 12)
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"it is not the propagation but the permanency of his religion that deserves our wonder, the same pure and perfect impression which he engraved at mecca and medina is preserved, after the revolutions of twelve centuries by the indian, the african and the turkish proselytes of the koran. . . the mahometans have uniformly withstood the temptation of reducing the object of their faith an devotion to a level with the senses and imagination of man.
'i believe in one god and mahomet the apostle of god' is the simple and invariable profession of islam. the intellectual image of the deity has never been degraded by any visible idol; the honours of the prophet have never transgressed the measure of human virtue, and his living precepts have restrained the gratitude of his disciples within the bounds of reason and religion."
* Edward Gibbon and Simon Ocklay, History of the saracen empire, london, 1870, p. 54.
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"no great religious leader has been so maligned as prophet mohammed. attacked in the past as a heretic, an impostor, or a sensualist, it is still possible to find him referred to as "the false prophet." a modern german writer accuses prophet mohammed of sensuality, surrounding himself with young women. this man was not married until he was twenty-five years of age, then he and his wife lived in happiness and fidelity for twenty-four years, until her death when he was forty-nine.
only between the age of fifty and his death at sixty-two did prophet mohammed take other wives, only one of whom was a virgin, and most of them were taken for dynastic and political reasons. certainly the prophet's record was better than the head of the church of england, henry viii."
* Geoffrey Parrinder
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"If a man like muhamed were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness."
* George Bernard Shaw
No there's something wrong with your head. Go seek help. Now!
As is written in the ancient scriptures....If it ain't blue, it ain't true.
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@@twnb7733 really you have brought these idiots who don't distinguish between sala (pray) and sala ala (give blessing). by the way, your David wood @$$ was kicked very hard from Muhammed hijab hhhhhh.
osama aljarrah Don’t worry he barely knows what he’s talking about.He believes a psychopath is the most knowledgeable person on Earth and knows everything about Islam when all he does is repeat a lie over and over again.”If you repeat a lie often enough,it will be accepted as the truth”
@@sudaissohail4851 That argument kind of falls flat. Where are the two great Mosques of Islam? They're in Saudi Arabia. And who decides a large amount of what is allowed and not allowed in Saudi Arabia? The religious clerics. And Muslims in the West say that...but those are not "real" Muslims. And those clerics spend decades of their lives studying Islam. And Iran? Who runs that country? The Ayatollahs. Who spend decades of their life studying Islam. But Muslims in the West say....They're not "real" Muslims. And Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi? A doctorate in Islamic studies. But he wasn't a "real" Muslim.
By the time Muslims in the West are done...One percent of of the people who call themselves Muslims are "real" Muslims.
@@zae5pm it's ok being given a verbal booting, David is good at handing out those same verbal bootings.
His special guest only about a month ago was Dr Jay Smith who's research has all but destroyed any sense of credibility from this religion of untruths, plagerisms & downright lies.
The " authentic" one and only word of ALLA grew in knowledge to a total of 37 "authentic" & original korans all in the Arabic language, the earliest without vowel markings which needed experts from Germany to even be able to read.
Watch Dr Wood & Dr Smith as they kick the ladder out from under this religion of peaceful lies¿
Acts 17 apologetics.
D.Wood & Jay Smith.
the corruption of the Quran.
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Great presentation.
The speaker appears to be properly circumspect. Sadly, there are serious mistakes in the transcript. Apparently, it is generated by a 'machine.' I hope someone edits the transcript. Thank you for this video.
IIRC the "transcript" that you see as subtitles is generated while the video is running. For this video, sometimes it's comically bad - better not to rely on it, but use it only to follow coarsely.
29.00 is there any mention of the concept of learning Quran by heart, mentioned in this lecture? This is tradition very old. And even if the Quran was not documented until some centuries later, it WAS ´´documented ´´ / SAVED by that tradition. Especially when the Text - must have been refereed to often to deal with the situations arising in the rapid changes, political especially happening during that time. One reference in favour of this would be Shia , Sunni divide... both differing politically and and also on interpretation of the Text - nevertheless agree on the Text itself.
Yes. Surah Ar-ra'd (the thunder) 13:28, says "Those who believe, and whose hearts find satisfaction in the remembrance of Allah: for without doubt in the remembrance of Allah do hearts find satisfaction". This is saying that in THE REMEMBERANCE OF ALLAH the heart finds rest (satisfaction, serenity, tranquility). How do you remember Allah? That's by remembering him through the recitation of the Quran, which means that the verses revealed to Prophet Muhammad from the very beginning was recited over and over thus knowing every word and line (Ayah) by heart. And this is how the Quran was preserved from the very beginning as the revelations began, so they were not forgotten. Today millions of Muslims around the world continues this tradition of memorizing the Quran by heart, even though after the Prophet (saw) death when it was written down for teaching and taking it to other nations.
Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. And terrorists (puppets of the Antichrist) who misinterpret verses, out of ignorance and political motivations, and take them out of historical context (just like radical atheists do by the way), don't help either. Thank you very much for your time.
Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them).
Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy.
Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).
Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning!
Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures.
Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement.
It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them.
(19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad)..
Salam (Peace) -----------------
The writing system was Already established. Paper was widely available. You can remember it. But writing is a better way to communicate with better Reach.
One little info that I would love to add is: Quran was documented during the life of prophet and was officially "groupped" as the whole book during the life of companions of the prophet. Not centuries laters
@@islamisthetruewaytogod6812 No. It is the predecessor of Nazism and atrocities for 1400 years.
First I thought that his blue hair was cause by damaged pixels on my screen...Maybe he is an Avatar .
Me too lol
May i know why his hair blue?
This may sound dumb but does his hair have a blue streak in it?
He must have carried out such a thorough n rigorous study on his field. Not to mention the evidence in him that his pronunciation in Arabic is as good as his in English. Regardless the real value of his finding, this is truly inspiring n encouraging.
Loved the lecture! Agree with you 100%
But just pronouncing "muslim" correctly is a giant leap for the west!
No He did do his home work now days many fake visitors come to my Country and try to study fake history and at end they lost what they want to achieve I don't why he bother to come to Saudi Arabia and next time we are making rules just the rules that non believers can't cross the free way close the our prophets grave they try to lie about him do something they like and stay away from us
@mosaabtwice3999za===÷,?
Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. And terrorists (puppets of the Antichrist) who misinterpret verses, out of ignorance and political motivations, and take them out of historical context (just like radical atheists do by the way), don't help either. Thank you very much for your time.
Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them).
Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy.
Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).
Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning!
Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures.
Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement.
It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them.
(19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad)..
Salam (Peace) -----------------
@@islamisthetruewaytogod6812 k
24:03 actual documentation begins.
46:10 changes to Islam as we know it today.
I enjoyed this lecture!
At 31:36. There is a clear distinction between Muslim (Islam) and Mu'min (Iman). They are not interchangeable. There is also a third term, Ihsan. So the three terms are Islam, Iman, Ihsan. Without getting into technical details, one can say that they are three levels of one's spiritual status with God, Ihsan being the highest. These terms are not used randomly in the Qur'an, and they have not come to mean/signify anything different over time. I am surprised Mr. Donner is not aware of the ample literature available on the subject.
muslim means a person who submits to God, Islam means submission (has other meanings such as peace), Mu'min means believer, iman means faith. These are all different words.
No matter which religion, I suggest it is only because humans are so harsh and judgmental of each other, that so many are willing to place faith in the existence of a harsh and judge-mental god.
Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. And terrorists (puppets of the Antichrist) who misinterpret verses, out of ignorance and political motivations, and take them out of historical context (just like radical atheists do by the way), don't help either. Thank you very much for your time.
Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them).
Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy.
Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).
Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning!
Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures.
Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement.
It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them.
(19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad)..
Salam (Peace) -----------------
@@islamisthetruewaytogod6812
Had you been born into a Christian culture, you would be posting to me that to have my soul saved, I would have to believe Jesus is my savior.
Which religion you "belong to" is based on where you were born and raised.
The truth of that matter will set you free of all religion.
Been there ... did that.
@@islamisthetruewaytogod6812
My guess is, the existence of gods and devils and all stories of the supposed supernatural, started back in the caveman days, when they knew nothing about the subject of hallucinations.
From the book … Hallucinations … author … Oliver Sacks
Hallucinatory experiences, whatever their cause, generate a world of imaginary beings and abodes-heaven, hell, fairyland. Such myths and beliefs are designed to clarify and reassure and, at the same time, to frighten and warn. We make narratives for a nocturnal experience which is common, real and physiologically based.
When traditional figures-devils, witches, or hags-are no longer believed in, new ones-aliens, visitations from “a previous life”-take their place. Hallucinations, beyond any other waking experience, can excite, bewilder, terrify, or inspire, leading to the fokelore and the myths (sublime, horrible, creative, and playful) which perhaps no individual and no culture can wholly dispense with.
@@junevandermark952 Wow. you are lying
@@fabak You have to believe that you see evil in others, before you can believe in the existence of a judge-mental god.
If you believed that you saw only goodness in others, you would not be ABLE to worship an image of a judge-mental god, because you would think that if such a being existed ... it would be a horrible bully to pick on such wonderful people.
Do you believe that is also a lie?
You DO believe that YOU are wonderful ... don't you.
Or do you believe that you also are an evil sinner ... not worthy of any kindness from a judge-mental god?
@Joels310. One can always tell when one has a weak argument. Those with a weak argument begin to insult and disparage their opponent. Name calling and bashing is always telling about the speaker than the one spoken of. We thoroughly understand what is trying being conveyed. For the intelligent and fair-minded, the ploy doesn't work. The first rule we learn: Speak not about that which you do not know. Google and picking up rhetoric doesn't qualify as scholarly.
Correct yes. One can expect these kind of 'scholars' in the end times. People of the anti Christ trying to gather some steam against Islam (many also toppling Christianity). Satans pride wont allow him to enter hell alone!
@@fearnoman5862 haha, your child rapist pedophilia muhmd was bewitched and controlled by satan according to kuran , what you want more
Stella William not befitting someone who calls herself a christian
@@yus3344 better then following a child rapist pedophilia bewitched muhmd
Well Stella you can swear and mock and jeer but you would not lessen the status of the greatest person to walk on this earth . You are just wasting your remaining time on this earth trying to belittle someone who has over a billion followers As the saying goes if you can't beat them then join them
And now there is people saying that Islam is a “traditional” religion but which arise in the 7th century AD😅
Does he explain anywhere in the video why he has blue hair?
Eye-opening. I learned that Islam started out as an inclusive “believers” revival movement centered on three things: monotheism, piety, and eschatological judgment day. Further, I learned that Christians and Jews were included in the early movement era. Oh that we can roll back time!
Well, yeah. Muhammad was informed at a young age that he would be a prophet of god. It was a Christian missionary doing what Jesus commanded him to do, who told young Muhammad this. So, how could he reject the religion who inspired his? I mean, it's obvious he had a translation of certain books of the Christian Bible at that time, as he references Abraham, Jesus, etc.
1400 years ago, all south Arabia, including Hijaz and Aseer mountains, present Oman belong to Yemen, weather patterns were of more rain...Petra and this area between Iraq and Petra
Also, had more rain..
Yemen is a modern name and climate is similar to current one , what you said is false
I never hear of Yemen in antiquity must be a dream or nightmare you is on
Great lecture. Unfortunately the audience questions were pretty terrible and they didn't understand the concept of keeping things brief...
Hello do you believe in Jesus?
@@connorlancaster7541 well he definitely existed if that's what you mean by "believe"
Boring lecture people should read fit themselves the Quran and not let others tell what it say. Do not be deceived said Christ.
@@gow2ilove Do you believe he rose from the dead?
*Who explains to us why the Koran says Christians believe God has a biological son!*
To all Muslims! Son of God means NOT SON! What is called the son of God is the word of God = god himself! Which has nothing to do with a child (son)! Thus, the Son of God is incarnated as the human Jesus and the human Jesus is therefore referred to as a son, which does not mean a son!
Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:
اِنَّ الَّذِيْنَ اٰمَنُوْا وَا لَّذِيْنَ هَا دُوْا وَا لنَّصٰرٰى وَا لصّٰبِئِـيْنَ مَنْ اٰمَنَ بِا للّٰهِ وَا لْيَوْمِ الْاٰ خِرِ وَعَمِلَ صَا لِحًـا فَلَهُمْ اَجْرُهُمْ عِنْدَ رَبِّهِمْ ۚ وَلَا خَوْفٌ عَلَيْهِمْ وَلَا هُمْ يَحْزَنُوْنَ
"Indeed, those who believed and those who were Jews or Christians or Sabeans [before Prophet Muhammad] - those [among them] who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness - will have their reward with their Lord, and no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve."
(Al-Baqara 2: Verse 62)
You see... Mecca DID NOT in fact lay on a caravan line BUT Petra did! One of the pointers from the documentary. The entire description given in the Qu'ran fits Petra with the walls and the holy water flowing through yet it does not fit Mecca at all!
Try harder with your lies to deny the Reformer Mohammad that no other human being was able to achieve. He was so successful , because of his sincerity of purpose, focused to help establish an equitable society with human dignity for all members of society. His message only confirmed the messages of Moses and Jesus son of Mary. He just clarified it and made it concise.
@@786humaira1 Judaism and Christianity has nothing to do with Islam, the pagan religion of the Arab tribes. So their god "Allah" is not the same god of the Jews and christians, "YAHWEH". It is a lie started by the muslims that these gods are same and their religion also belong to the same semitic group of religion .They have stolen some of the stories from the Jewish and Christian scriptures and started their religion. Christians and Jews have a entirely different theology and the old testament of the christians and the Tanakh of the Jews are the same. Koran contains some distorted stories lifted here and there from their two holy scriptures( Old testament of the christians which is the same as the Tanakh of the Jews and the New testament of the christians)
@@joythomasvallianeth6013 yes you are right ,quran is different in the sense if one throws away the commandment of One God of entire humanity, and one throws away the dictum do not lie, do not kill,if you do that that you are thrown out of Islam not by any Tom Dick and Harry ,but your own acts puts you out of the realm of Islam. Whereas you can lie about WMD and send 250,000 young men to kill and get killed to Iraq . For what You lie and you kill ,not one but millions , and still u
You call yourself " Man of God". In the white house.!!!!
That is the difference.you understand .
Now let this be clear to you and anyoneelse.i.e.
GOD IS ONLY ONE , THE creator of Heaven and Earth and all THAT IS in between.
Teachers and Messengers are sent by God.
Whether it is a teacher from Iraq ( Abrahem) or a teacher from Egypt ( Moses) or a teacher from Bethelhem ( Jesus son of Mary) or a Teacher from Mecca ( Mohammad) , They all taught the same compassion,human dignity for all AND an equitable society., and their source is the Most Merciful God of all, hence the priciples are the same stories are the same.No body stole from no one. How hard is it to assimilate that simple fact.
Now the term Allah is only an Arabic language version of name of God. Arab Christians for your information and future guidance have Allah all over in the Bible. And that does not means theirs is a separate deity called Allah. God has many names, Dios, Allah, Bhagwan, yahwe etc etc.
Now get out of your narrow minded alleys that are choking your intellect.
@@joythomasvallianeth6013 It's quite simple, God revield revelation to different prophets, and those messages were then changed and corrupted(which we have PLENTY of evidence of), so then God decided to correct the corruption by sending another revelation to his last and final prophet. That's why the bible and the Quran have some similarities and differences, it's becasue one was revield then corrupted, then the other was sent to correct the coruption. The Question to be asked is, which is the true word of God, once we prove which is the TRUE word of God, then whatever that one says is what we believe.
None of them are the true words of God. Its so OBVIOUS they are the words of infant humanity trying to keep each other under control. Back then they couldnt even organise an orgy in a brothel! The promise of heaven - or money - was the only reward that could convince them to build as a team without killing each other. A self glorifying reward is still the prime motivator today even for the non religious.
Man, this guy sounds a lot like Bob Newhart.
Thats it. I knew he sounded familiar but couldn't place it
Yeah, I thought of Newhart too.
He needs a phone call bit or two, though.
Isaiah 42:11 Let the wilderness and its towns raise their voices ( thats the call of the prayer ) ( Athan )
Let them shout from mountaintops 42:11 that's Muslims during pilgrimage to Mecca google image ( day of Arafat )
( Sela mountain ) mentioned in Isaiah 42:11 is in ( Madina ) city of prophet Mohamad ( Google map it )
( kedar ) mentioned in Isaiah 42:11 that's the arabs kedar is the 2nd son of Ishmael son of Abraham you can find in genesis 25:13
Ezekiel 27:21
Arabia and all the princes of Kedar were your customers; they did business with you in lambs, rams and goats.
Genesis 25:13
These are the names of the sons of Ishmael, listed in the order of their birth: Nebaioth the firstborn of Ishmael, ( Kedar ) , Adbeel, Mibsam
biblehub.com/isaiah/42-11.htm
Any questions My Facebook messenger is ( Eyad mayy ) or Instagram ( eyadmayy )
Would be much better if it was a debate
The guy did not know about the Birmingham manuscript plus he never read the Quran.
although i was raised muslim i have always had a thought that early islam was part of Nestorianism .
yes in early islam influence from buhaira, and warraqa ibn naufal is big role for prophet
@Horrace Smith what about muhmd who was bewitched and controlled by satan according to kuran
So many stuipd people here like wake up and read about this religon insted of saying nonsence, i read about it and nothing like that is in islam
@Horrace Smith but he was not bewitched and controlled like by satan Like your child rapist pedophilia muhmd, how satan controlled your muhmd , maybe your 2 right hands allah was on vacations or satan and was doing gym and become more powerful
@Horrace Smith you have most funny foolish fairy tales cult in the world, haha,what about your angel squeezing your child rapist muhmd to read but he is saying i cant , haha that was most foolish story , a man come in cave and start squeezing other man and other man instead of asking him who are you , saying i cant , then what was use of squeezing , why your allah command was so weak that muhmd never read , believe me if jesus said to donkey to read , he will read
Love the blue hair
Excellent presentation and Q&A. Thank you.
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Why don't you use the actual text from the Quran? It states that the Quran was written by the noble scribes on the parchment paper. So it was written at the time of Muhammmad's life.
ان الله غني عن العالمين
This made me happy and confirmed some thoughts I had about my religion. Thank you for such treasure working. How I can follow your studies?
U should be wary tho. Cause he clearly get stuff wrong like saying "Muslims fight each other all the time" and that's a bit hyperbolic. And the word Islam as a religion didn't exist when in the quran there's a verse that says : the religion to Allah is Islam.
@@ldahmyi think we shouldn't be harshly judging his studies because,this man i studying old stuff without a bias. So he is only speaking on the basis of his study, so let him study. And his study isnt about preaching islam so we dont need to follow that.
And the party of him saying muslims fight eachother all time , is true. Although we believe in the same religion, we argue on the basis of madhabs/ sects and a lot of stuff. There are sects which are even banned from Saudi Arabia, because they have concepts that are so messed up that, normally they aren't even muslims anymore.
You also have shias who have scholars who even discard hadiths and even claim adulteration of the Quran.
Iam not sure about the term islam ,coz i have never studied that( as its too small of a matter to give importance), so i will study on that too.
@@mahbubellahi9191 I appreciate your answer here but I think to say that other sects are so "messed up" is the whole basis he is trying to explain here, all he is saying is that we have been fed one sided and biased narratives that have changed so much since the life of our prohpet that muslims are blindly accepting hadith and history that may not be true at all, for example the term Muslim and Islam were also mentioned in the early covenants of the jews and christians....we can't accept hadith in the same manner as the Quran. Hadith even when completely 'sahih' has been narrated in almost a chinese whisper methodology and when comparing two same narrations by different narrators it's clear to see there was no consensus on some key information between the narrators, just proving the point that Hadith is a good foundation but should not be used to narrate history from a historians pov due to the sheer biases. You aren't to know which sect is really messed up and which is truly on the right path from these hadith as they are subjective. JaazakAllah
@@ldahmy "And the word Islam as a religion didn't exist when in the quran there's a verse that says : the religion to Allah is Islam." إن الـديـن عـنـد الله الإسـلام That presupposes that din means religion and islam means Islam as we understand it today as a religion. islam could also be a practice: to submit to Allah. What exactly does dín mean? Does it connote a fixed set of rules and a historical community that adheres to it? How then can both Muhammad and Ibrahim be Muslims, when they lived in separate time periods? Is dín then a certain way of behaving, a way? Then you could translate as: The way with God is submitting (unto him).
@@johannesrosenbaum actually in Surah 22:78 we are named as "Muslims" literally
"Strive for ˹the cause of˺ Allah in the way He deserves, for ˹it is˺ He ˹Who˺ has chosen you, and laid upon you no hardship in the religion-the way of your forefather Abraham. Who named you 'Muslims' ˹in the˺ earlier ˹Scriptures˺ and in this ˹Quran˺, so that the Messenger may be a witness over you, and that you may be witnesses over humanity. So establish prayer, pay alms-tax, and hold fast to Allah. He ˹alone˺ is your Guardian. What an excellent Guardian, and what an excellent Helper!"
There is no historical reference to Mecca until 740 ce, which is over a hundred years after Islam supposedly began. There’s many holes in the historical narrative.
An-Nahl 16:24-24
(24) وَإِذَا قِيلَ لَهُم مَّاذَآ أَنزَلَ رَبُّكُمْۙ قَالُوٓا۟ أَسَٰطِيرُ ٱلْأَوَّلِينَ
English - Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran
(24) And when it is said to them, “What has your Lord revealed?” They say, “Ancient fables!”
French - Muhammad Hamidullah
(24) Et lorsqu'on leur dit: «Qu'est-ce que votre Seigneur a fait descendre?» Ils disent: «Des légendes anciennes!»
Such a thought provoking talk and all people can talk about is his hair.
READ DESCRIPTION UNDER MY VIDEOS AND DESTROY ISLAM IN 10 MINUTES. ua-cam.com/video/EdSzZCuqtLI/v-deo.html
Hardly thought provoking. I fell asleep while paying attention.
@@alexbaro maybe not for you then. Different strokes for different folks.
@@xsuploader More like different IQs.
Complete bs. I'm 20 minutes in and absolutely zero references or sources so far. I'm just staying for the blue hair and his hilarious attempt at revisionism. .
سوف اكتب بالعربيه و يستطيع القراء الترجمه و لكن
يوجد مصدرين منفصلين للتاريخ الاسلامى عن المسلمين :
الأول و هو كتب السيرة - الثانى هو كتب الحديث
كتب السيرة لم تهتم بفحص وتمحيص الروايات التاريخية و لكن كنت تأريخ يقوم على أسس التأريخ التقليدية التى لم تستخدم فى كتب الحديث
و كتب الحديث هي الكتب التي اهتمت بجمع ما ينسب إلى محمد (صلعم) و قد وضعت لها مناهج للتدقيق و اسس على اثر ذلك ما يعرف في العلوم الإسلامية بعلم الرجال و هو سجل بسلاسل الرواة للحديث و علاقة الاتصال بين الرواة للحديث ومعرفة أحوالهم و خطوط رحلاتهم و ازمنه تواجدهم
و اهتم علماء الحديث بمقايس اهمها التواتر في الحديث و هو وجود أكثر من سلسله بشريه للحديث الواحد
هذه الوسائل لم يهتم المسلمون بتطبيقها على التاريخ بنفس الطريقة و لكن تم اعتماد الروايات على حالها و يمكن تنقيحها بتطبيق علم الرجال وعلم الجرح والتعديل (هما نفس الشئ) على الروايات التاريخية
و لقد استمعت الى النصف ساعة الاولى من المحاضره و لم اجد ذكر لها او وجد عدم اعتراف بها او بدقه الطريقة التى جمع بها القرآن
و هنا احب ان انوه انه على ما يبدو أن الباحث لم يعتمد على مصادر عربية أكثر مما اعتمد على المصادر الغربية لكى يبنى عليها ولذلك فحتى النقطة التي شاهدتها لم اجد منه معرفه او ذكر بالجهود التي بذلها المسلمون لجمع القرآن و عصمته من اى زياده او نقصان
The sources you are referring to were written at least 200 years after mohamed's life... Watch ua-cam.com/video/MIsXILJ_7jM/v-deo.html
@@MrRandomEgyptian
Indeed they were, yet declared as "reliable" due to the oral tradition. However, anyone who has ever played the game "telephone" knows the accuracy of such claims.
@THE Tomahawk compiled by men? your bible you mean, yeah? hahah
I highly recommend to all Muslim believers to read diverse range of books and material including many from famous Muslim researchers. The truth on many many issues will be revealed to you. This goes for all religions. Just read and research and discard what is whispered to you in mosques and churches
Very interesting but I recommend some kind of break system or dividing the video into chapters so viewers can search specific sections of the talk
Why does this perfectly reasonable and scholarly gentleman have a shock of blue hair? I know most of the comments seem to be about this, but I think it's an important question!
The blue hair definitely DISTRACTS from the credibility of his lecture. 🤔
His granddaughter played with the hair and got it blue, according to some comments.
I think that it's the fashion these days
important to a man child
@@seansoblixe9711 Actually, only a child would dye their hair like that. I'm sure in your "community" it's pretty common.
This is why I always say if you mix Judaism and Christianity you get Islam. I like how this man said Islam is basically a monotheistic rival movement. He was also speaking the truth when we said modern Islam is just wahhabism spread by saudi oil money.
Not really
But to call Islam christian Judaism is not so wrong
Islam was there before saudi arabia.
Pretty ignorant statement. They aren’t even close to each other.
Islam is the stupidest religion known to man! 😂
What is the story of the blue hair on the righthand side of his head?
Party anytime, anywhere !
@1:04:54 yes there are ways to authenticate hadiths. Im surprised you missed that topic in the research.
1:04:40 there's no method? 🤔 there's a whole science behind it and it is clear which are the authenticated "sayings" ahadeeth of the prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم
Many of these revisionists tend to ignore these. Even Crone backtracked after a while.
yeah, he mentions that method, and then says that it is not accurate because some of the hadith predicted future. Thus, the proof that ahadith are not reliable is the presupposed "fact" that the Prophet was not a real Prophet. That's what we call bias.
@@bergaudas @Brolis Bergaudas can you click on the time and listen to what he said? He said there's no way to discriminate which is an authentic hadeeth and which isn't, now if you don't take the authentic hadeeth as authentic (considering the process it has been through) then you can't really believe anything that was written by "historians" such as this one, because there isn't a more authentic text than authentic hadeeth except for Qur'aan.
And yes some predict the future and it happened, the problem is with those who treat the Qur'aan and Hadeeth as if they were a new discovery and we are trying to find some pieces of leather or bone to figure out what happened before, completely oblivious or (blind sided by choice) to the fact that Qur'aan is an oral tradition, memorized not only to the salable, but to how long should each letter be recited, and it has been passed on in that (care sensitive) manner for generations, so when someone finds a piece of writing that has a mistake in it, probably written by a student, they go AHA! 🤣 listen, if you believe that the sun is a galactic logo of some hot orange juice brand in the sky, there is no Qur'aan or a prophet that would change your mind, especially if that "belief" makes your life easier, let's you do what ever you want without any pressure because that's what you believe, and makes you sleep at night. As for those who want to arrive at the truth and do not care what consequences it will bring them to follow the truth, they will find it. It's not customer service, the one with the absolute authority has the say, not you and me.
I'm an INTJ-A if I came across as aggressive or anything like that I apologize 😅 and I actually appreciate your reply 🙏
Agreed, @Musaed. Even islamic scholars who talk about the religion need to cite their sources and a chain of narration. Not sure where this video gets off spreading information as truth.This speech is underwhelming and sad because it doesn't deliver anything of substance. I only feel for people who came here to learn about the religion. If you truly want to learn and aren't just passing the time, then go to the source people. There are quran translations in almost every language. Eventually though, you want to learn and read it in Arabic, to avoid losing the essence through translation. That's how it has been preserved and will continue to be. Everyone wants the truth, God spede you.
Not a science.
Very interesting. I want to know more.
God will provide with knowledge and wisdom ' read and seek knowledge' he forgot to tell us about that ! just read the quran as a book and see what it says but you might not understand it through first approach.
watch the videos of Sneaker's Corner and Dan Gibson
Isaiah 42:11 Let the wilderness and its towns raise their voices ( thats the call of the prayer ) ( Athan )
Let them shout from mountaintops 42:11 that's Muslims during pilgrimage to Mecca google image ( day of Arafat )
( Sela mountain ) mentioned in Isaiah 42:11 is in ( Madina ) city of prophet Mohamad ( Google map it )
( kedar ) mentioned in Isaiah 42:11 that's the arabs kedar is the 2nd son of Ishmael son of Abraham you can find in genesis 25:13
Ezekiel 27:21
Arabia and all the princes of Kedar were your customers; they did business with you in lambs, rams and goats.
Genesis 25:13
These are the names of the sons of Ishmael, listed in the order of their birth: Nebaioth the firstborn of Ishmael, ( Kedar ) , Adbeel, Mibsam
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Want to add Zakat was the Tax on Muslims and Jizya was a Tax meant for others thanks.
Professor Bob Newhart!
And much of Bob Newhart humor involves sounding reasonable while actually talking some nonsense. Connection?
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Gary Wills, "What the Qur'an Meant: And Why It Matters"
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Prof. John Esposito
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"my choice of muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular level."
* Michael H. Hart, the 100: a ranking of the most influential persons in history, new york: hart publishing company, inc., 1978, p. 33.
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>> www.unf.edu/~n00006757/astronomylectures/The%20100.pdf
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"muhammad is the most successful of all prophets and religious personalities."
* In the Encyclopedia Britannica
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"it is impossible for anyone who studies the life and character of the great prophet of arabia, who knows how he taught and how he lived, to feel anything but reverence for that mighty prophet, one of the great messengers of the supreme. and although in what i put to you i shall say many things which may be familiar to many, yet i myself feel whenever i re-read them, a new way of admiration, a new sense of reverence for that mighty arabian teacher."
* annie besant, the life and teachings of muhammad,madras,1932, p. 4.
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"but do you mean to tell me that the man who in the full flush of youthful vigour, a young man of four and twenty (24), married a woman much his senior, and remained faithful to her for six and twenty years (26), at fifty years of age when the passions are dying married for lust and sexual passion? not thus are men's lives to be judged. and you look at the women whom he married, you will find that by every one of them an alliance was made for his people, or something was gained for his followers, or the woman was in sore need of protection."
"he was caesar and pope in one; but he was pope without pope's pretensions, caesar without the legions of caesar: without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without a palace, without a fixed revenue; if ever any man had the right to say that he ruled by the right divine, it was mohammed, for he had all the power without its instruments and without its supports."
* bosworth smith, mohammad and mohammadanism, london, 1874, p. 92.
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"the league of nations founded by the prophet of islam put the principle of international unity and human brotherhood on such universal foundations as to show candle to other nations." he continues: "the fact is that no nation of the world can show a parallel to what islam has done towards the realization of the idea of theleague of nations."
* Prof. C. Snouck Hurgronje
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"muhammad was the soul of kindness, and his influence was felt and never forgotten by those around him."
* (Diwan Chand Sharma, the prophets of the east, calcutta, 1935, pp. 12)
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"it is not the propagation but the permanency of his religion that deserves our wonder, the same pure and perfect impression which he engraved at mecca and medina is preserved, after the revolutions of twelve centuries by the indian, the african and the turkish proselytes of the koran. . . the mahometans have uniformly withstood the temptation of reducing the object of their faith an devotion to a level with the senses and imagination of man.
'i believe in one god and mahomet the apostle of god' is the simple and invariable profession of islam. the intellectual image of the deity has never been degraded by any visible idol; the honours of the prophet have never transgressed the measure of human virtue, and his living precepts have restrained the gratitude of his disciples within the bounds of reason and religion."
* Edward Gibbon and Simon Ocklay, History of the saracen empire, london, 1870, p. 54.
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"no great religious leader has been so maligned as prophet mohammed. attacked in the past as a heretic, an impostor, or a sensualist, it is still possible to find him referred to as "the false prophet." a modern german writer accuses prophet mohammed of sensuality, surrounding himself with young women. this man was not married until he was twenty-five years of age, then he and his wife lived in happiness and fidelity for twenty-four years, until her death when he was forty-nine.
only between the age of fifty and his death at sixty-two did prophet mohammed take other wives, only one of whom was a virgin, and most of them were taken for dynastic and political reasons. certainly the prophet's record was better than the head of the church of england, henry viii."
* Geoffrey Parrinder
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"If a man like muhamed were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness."
* George Bernard Shaw
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@@docverit2668 nah, the just look alike is all.
And actually Quran references contemporaneous historical events such as the defeat of the "Romans" (Byzantium) at Sura 30:2-4 which corresponds to a Byzantine defeat at Antioch in 613.
Yes but who really wrote the Quran, why and when?
Many people who firmly believe there is only one Almighty have grave doubts about the authenticity of the Quran and it's self contradictory messages many of which are racist, theocratic and elitist.
Depends which reading you read lol. Some say win some say defeat
@@youknowwhatyouhavedones7044 really? the one mentions defeat was the least reliable. even though some claim that "defeat" come from Muslims. So even your least reliable reading has some claim about future which had come true
@@youknowwhatyouhavedones7044 what no are you on about 😊
@@berdigylychrejepbayev7503 are you normal? They we’re constantly fighting it’s only two possibilities of it going🤣
Others: Dan Gibson, Tom Holland, Jay Smith, Al Fadi, Thomas Alexander, Bill French...
7:07 The concept of revelation often involves individuals claiming to receive messages or insights from a divine source. However, interpretation of such experiences varies widely. Some view these claims skeptically, attributing them to delusion or other psychological factors, while others accept them as genuine connections with the divine. Ultimately, how one perceives revelation depends on personal beliefs and perspectives. Some may choose to ridicule the concept, while others respect individuals' beliefs and experiences, allowing them to interpret their encounters with the divine as they see fit.
Either we deny the concept or make fun of everyone.
I myself have had drug assisted visions of the oneness of consciousness. I’ve felt that we are somehow single cells of a greater being. Yea it can be schizophrenia or a revelation depending on how you want to view it.
I was staunchly atheist, now I’m less so, but still anti organized religion. I’m not going to listen to a guy who hasn’t experienced what I experienced try to tell me what god is and what to do. You read a damn book, I’ve seen it. Who the hell is your priest or Imam or Rabbi to be an intermediary for you and god? No one at all.
You would think such a scholar would give more insight on Muhammed. Just a perusal of where he was from and how he came about the visions and book. There are known facts that give a more vilified view of the "prophet". It would be interesting and beneficial to hear more about the man and what happened via the facts, how he proceeded/progressed with his first wife and family and his leaving and his marriage to the rich widow. His shunning of her after coming to power and marrying "ayesha" at 6 years old and consummating that marriage when she was 9, according to the qur'an.
It is very hard to give that sort of insight with any kind of certainty, as most religious characters and their founders, as depicted in the various holy books of the religion itself, are typically very detached from actual real history.
This applies to all "abrahamic" religions present still today.
@@Bluesrusebiblical characters and their stories are not claimed to be literal retellings of stories as opposed to Quran and Haadiths
@@dr.vegetable Well, that depends on who you ask, and when.
If you tell an average Christian, that none of the sayings or deeds of Jesus can be traced to an actual historical figure, they don't take too kind to that sort of stuff.
Nor do Jews (at least the religious kind), when you tell them their exodus never _actually_ happened, nor did their Moses _actually_ even exist.
So, while I agree that there's a lot more room for "human error" and "interpretation" and such, a very "literal" meaning to the stories at the core is at least to some degree present in all three.
Early age marriages is a point taken by many. In Europe in 18 century marriages in royal families of baby girls as young as 3 yrs old are recorded
Very interesting and detailed information. Thanks! 👍🏻🤔❤️
Just because something is detailed does not mean it is true. Jews and Chtistians was treated terrible They had to walk in the gutter and Mohammad said do not befriend Christians and news until the day of judgement
@@wanitagutierrez7748 completely untrue
@@wanitagutierrez7748 Of course you have no contemporary sources.
Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. And terrorists (puppets of the Antichrist) who misinterpret verses, out of ignorance and political motivations, and take them out of historical context (just like radical atheists do by the way), don't help either. Thank you very much for your time.
Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them).
Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy.
Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).
Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning!
Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures.
Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement.
It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them.
(19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad)..
Salam (Peace) -----------------
@@wanitagutierrez7748 what? So we should take your words rather believe a qualified certified historian? That too with a phd?
Seriously son? Thats what you telling us here? To believe you?- A anonymous random youtuber over the professor?
You think all people on the net are stupid?
You must be one of those who believe men like david wood or sam shamoun(with 0 degree & 0 phd)are credible speakers.. lmfao
Just go play away kid!
I don't get it. This man clearly has a very bright blue streak in his hair; yet I see no mention of this strange fact in the description or comments. Have I been asleep? Do old conservative scholars now streak their white hair with electric-blue?! Where are his piercings and tattoos? Wait. I don't want to know.
When youre a million hears old you just do stuff for the lols
He forgot Abraham's link to the Kaaba.....
A snarky, intellectually naive Encyclopedic wiki presentation. 🙄
I really wanted him to answer the second half of the question about the idea that Islam was embraced by commanders of Byzantine and sassanid empire defecting to the new religion. Leaving the back door open as se says to help them conquer. Maybe due to environmental or political discontent. Even in the absence of a volcano.
He did answer the question.
He said there was no evidence that he knew of for any story like that.
There had been a devastating war between the Byzantine and Sassanid empire.
Most of the world’s great religions would only be fringe at best.If not for empires and conquest religions wouldn’t have many followers.That’s a fact.
I would say that when a war takes place, and there's a winner, and the winner will continue on with its conquest, some from the ones that lost will join the winner by adapting the new religion and thus grow and continue the conquests.
@@allycat5892 You often aren't given a choice about joining the winner.
See Charlemagne and the Saxons.
A very interesting topic which showed up in my reccomendations because i watched related content, but i clicked on that video because i had to know if that man had only died a part of his hair blue, or if that was caused by a projector, or a badly placed spot light.
Having "Bismillah" on a coin does not signify Islamic association. Most Arabs called the mighty God as "Allah".
Al = god
Lah = arabic moon god
Mohamed father was Abdullah (Slave of al lah) before Muhammed
founded Islam
@@puppetmasternostringsonme8293 dude “al” is like “the”
Do you even speak arabic?
@@Ibn-Abdurrahman even they call it allah it is not the same god with the christian god in europe and asia..before islam is born or appeared they do not call allah the god but there are several goddes they calling including allah.al-uza .al-manat etc...
@@Ibn-Abdurrahman before there were no muslims before mohammad was born there are a lot of goddes in arabia they worshipp pagan idols and in those times there is no man calling allah which is only one god but they call several goddes names
6th-7th century Arabia was not the place where scholarly academic writings tradition highly regarded. The Arab people then were backward tribal communities, with very few people able to read/write. Unlike in Greek and Rome.
hahahahaha..................mecca was a center of trade and literature and warrior poets like antar ibn shaddaad!
Ever heard of the Muallaqaat?...........these poems were hanged on the walls of the Kaaba.
Arabia and Yemen were in the middle of the trade between east and west!...The quraysh (the prophet's family) had connections all over the middle east.
@@rezamotori5709 Mecca was at best a minor town with no significance. Perhaps a market town within Arabia, but not part of the main silk road.
Obviously it had big pagan significance and idol worship going on - like that Kabaa thing and the black stone, which the prophet absorbed into his new religion. Always ironic that the literal very centre of the religion has a pagan idol 🤣
@@capitalb5889 -The "main" silk road in that time, before the middle ages, ran exactly through yemen and mecca!
and it was mainly frankincense and myrrhe for the roman empire it was built upon! that came from the area now known as Oman, ethiopia and somalia and yemen...the socalled "roman network of eastern trade".
The roman empire(s) imported billions of dollars worth of incense and myrrhe every year!.....first under the emperors
and later during christianity. No pagan or christian ceremony could take place without these two materials. They are called the oil of antiquity. The reason nearly all of rome went up in flames under Nero was because stocks of myrrhe and incense had caught fire in the stockrooms at the forum romanum!....the roman economy nearly collapsed because
that immense amount was just a years supply!...rome made big money from selling myrrhe and incense to rich people all over the empire who used it in their homes. Silk from china and spices from india were only secondary to
myrrhe and incense.
All this went through Mecca. Before that it was Petra and Yemen but because of climate change those two places lost their water resources.......the quraysh grew enormously rich from this trade.....as did many jewish tribes who came to the hijaz after the jewish-roman wars.
The Kaaba was first built as a temple for monotheism......then became a church for Arianism and only in the last century before islam did idol worship enter mecca and the kaaba because of the so many pagan tribes from arabia and beyond demanding to have a place of worship in mecca for when they came to trade........and islam restored the kaaba to its montheistic functions after the wars between muhammed and his own family, the quraysh, who wanted
pagan traditions to continue for the financial benefit of trade.
@@rezamotori5709 - you are correct about it being on a trade route - I was wrong!
I think that the history of the Kabaa is less clear - it obviously was a pagan site before Mohammed adopted it (and retained the pagan practices associated with it), but the legend of it being a monotheistic shrine seem doubtful - it appears to be pagan in origin and religion in pre-islamic Arabia was polytheistic, but I would be fascinated to read more on the topic if you have any good sources.
@@capitalb5889 This question for sources shows your ignorance about the subject, and yet you are somehow convinced the Kaaba had pagan origins!
My sources are in arabic books!.......the Kaaba was built as a symbol of montheism, not paganism!.......What you call Arabia was in fact divided in language
just south of Mecca. The Hijaz region belonged to the northern arabians who had their origins in the area now known als israel, palestine, jordan, lebanon and syria.
The Southern arabians had a different language and writing script and those were related more to presentday Yemen, Somalia and Ethiopia and Oman!
The Hijaz was always religiously connected to the monotheism of the Canaanites and to a lesser extent Persia (Zoroastrianism).
The Kaaba was not built by pagans but by Canaanites and arabs from the north......Even the Koran says so: ismael and abraham came from the north to mecca to build the Kaaba!
The sources state that pre-islamic arabia was mostly pagan but we are talking about the Kaaba itself....and the Hijaz!.....not arabia!
Places like Yathrib (medina) were largely montheistic (jewish)........Khaybar was entirely monotheistic because all its inhabitants were jewish arabs from the north.
Mecca was monotheistic too with jews and christian (arians) living there. Just before the rise of islam, the Kaaba had a very different form than it has today!
It wasnt cube-shaped!. if you look on google earth, you will find that the cube we have today has a half circle low wall just north of it (pointing towards jerusalem!). That wall
was part of the cube when it was used as a church but when a flood destroyed the kaaba, they didnt have the funds the rebuilt it in its original form............and so they just built a Cube. The quraysh tribe allowed pagan tribes from other parts than the hijaz to put stone images of their own pagan gods next to the kaaba to keep them coming
for trade from which the quraysh benefitted. This happened in the century before islam. That gave rise to resentment among the monotheists in Mecca and thats how islam began...........as a revolt against pagan
gods around the kaaba and as a revolt against the trinity and divinity of jesus (mecca house more christian factions than the arians).....and as a revolt against rabbinic judaism and as return to the original monotheistic belief that originated among the semitic peoples of the northern arabian regions.
Just in the decades before muhammad became a prophet the Kaaba had statues of jesus &mary and pagan gods and the jews had their own place of worship inside the city!
You said Mecca was just a small place!...it wasnt because it took the place of Petra and yemen in the roman trade route...........If you just look how big petra alone was three centuries before islam and you can visit it now.....its a big place!..........mecca was far larger in the 6th century than petra was in the 3rd century..........so big was mecca and of economic importance that the Axum general Abraha from Ethiopia who had conquered Yemen staged an assault on Mecca using elephants (this is even found in christian church sources in ethiopia) to try to reclaim the trade lost by yemen to mecca. The assault on Mecca failed because of the outbreak of plague among Abraha's troops!...This assault happened the year the prophet muhammad was born in 571 AD....its even mentioned in the quran and hadith as the year of the elephant.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraha
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_of_the_Elephant
www.cambridge.org/core/journals/bulletin-of-the-school-of-oriental-and-african-studies/article/abs/abraha-and-muhammad-some-observations-apropos-of-chronology-and-literary-topoi-in-the-early-arabic-historical-tradition1/3C7779B2986050C4381A72D79D2B8F3F
This general Abraha even built a church in Yemen in the same shape the Kaaba was then as a replica for the Kaaba to lure traders to yemen and away from mecca