I truly, truly enjoyed this, and it was extremely informative. Thanks, and keep up the great conversations. I’m a woman/female and I don’t perceive transgender women as women. Ah, what a wonderful time to be a man. In this era, it's a unique experience for men as they navigate a world where they can identify as women and dictate how women should perceive their own womanhood. This includes redefining aspects like menstruation, implying that women lack understanding of their own biology, and suggesting that only a man claiming to be a woman can truly comprehend it!
@@mystic22g4Individuals have chosen to live as opposite sex for generations, often only discovered posthumously. 1 in 2,000 human births gender non-specific & used to be randomly surgically assigned, native populations called it 3rd Spirited.
@@JackxJewellin case you didn’t see my OP I’ll duplicate here: Incredible video. Please do contact Blaire White and Buck Angel, send them a copy/link and say you’d be open to being on their shows. I believe that could be very powerful.
I can only imagine,😕 but not surprised at all. The trans Ideology definitely ticks ALL the boxes...I've always called it a cult because that's what it is!
I am a straight man who has AGP, but I am NOT trans, I am a man. I have no right to a woman's space and I am not going to force others to indulge my fetishes. I engage in my own vices in my own home and don't expect society to change around my preferences.
Thank you for being an accountable, considerate and sensible human being. Much of the discourse isn't so much about people's gender identity or sexuality, it's about those who are narcissistic, entitled, exploitative and coercive to others, no matter their identity or proclivities. Unfortunately, it just so happens that some people in these spheres are the kind to put their own indulgences and self-interest above the needs of others, and want an exemption to be anti-social. And then, there are fetishists and posers who'd get off on the harassment itself, and they are just waiting for an excuse to enter women's and children's spaces. Women's spaces weren't implemented to protect women from good men, they were implemented to protect us from exactly the sort deviants I just described, who now have full access and license to harass with no repercussions. It is so obvious sometimes, and yet we are expected to pretend not to notice and to never raise an issue.
@@annaxyz5132 and it's not that I feel shame about my AGP but I see no reason to discuss it in open society, who cares what I find attractive? It seems so strange to me that people believe they can physically become the opposite sex, its nonsense, no mammal can change sex. We have special places for woman and I as a man, have a responsibility to ensure they are maintained. We are constantly told the emperor has amazing clothes, but I can see he's naked.
Thanks for sharing. Do you feel yours is easily controlled? I think there seems to be different intensities some men have. Around 3% of men experience agp, but most have it more mildly. It actually becomes a paraphilic disorder if it causes destruction to your life. Most men who transition are at literal breaking point - I think they’re beyond being able to think clearly
@@JackxJewell I would probably disagree with your wording of "controlled". I think it's the same as any other fetish, do it in your own home, consenting adults and away from children, it's not hard. Maybe because I don't feel the need to dress as a woman or invade woman spaces it's easier on me but idk.
@user-qz7vs8cx8o heya, sorry it came across that way. I did mean that some people struggle too much to be able to manage it without transitioning, so it was in good faith. I don’t think it’s irrational, just that it can cause a lot of distress and make it difficult to function. Would this make more sense? My point was, I’ve seen people shame it a lot and speak as though everyone who has it could manage without transitioning, but to me it seems like a portion would struggle a lot without. It was definitely meant to be in support of your situation x
Rowling is a hero - one of the few high profile people to take a well considered, principled stand and stick to it with integrity and kindness - she only has gotten sneery and joking when people came at her with vile, unfounded commentary - I admire her and I’ve not read her books or seen the movies based on them.
I didn't often agree with JK's political opinions and I wasn't even a fan of the novels (although the rest of my family are crazy fans) but her bravery and steadfastness have been inspiring. I've also learned that she has contributed a huge about of her mone to charities.
There's no probably about it. NO man can EVER be or become a woman of ANY or or category under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES WHATSOFUCKINGEVER. Of course Willoughby is the one in the wrong. HE is an ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE person. And JKR is an ABSOLUTE hero.
Yep the agressiveness and privilege are huge tells. I see that in a lot of "trans women" acting out hostility to women. The "trans men" don't seem to have the same issues.
I got blocked for a single comment "Hilarious" on a repost of that thread where India was bashing that fetishist for wearing fishnets and a mini skirt to that debate with Helen Joyce and Thatchell
@foximoxi8533 I often think 'how did we get here' and I know the historical route. What I really mean though is 'how has the idea that a man is a woman' been accepted by so many? And what sums it up best is the quote I hear every so often and that is: "Trans ideology is believed because transwomen are not women, but men. If anyone believed they were women, no one would ever have listened." It is sad
Govt's and organisations don't care about women and girls, they care about money and some of them are clearly enjoying seeing millions of women and girls getting ab*sed. Very sad times.
They’ve been supported and told that their want is more important than womens needs. That they should enter women’s changing rooms, rape shelters, prisons, sports. They have watched children’s health be undermined by this deranged ideology with puberty blockers. They have watched lesbians get abused and manipulated into accepting males in their dating pool because their want is deemed more important than standing for same sex attraction. They have seen people literally say a man should put a baby to their chest to ‘breastfeed’ They have watched people eager to deny objective material reality itself and the evidence of their own eyes in deference to this ‘movement’ and who centre and elevate a delusion over truth itself. At this point, of course they are confused as to why we might want to prioritise a child with cancer over them. Why would we draw such a line now?
That’s the power of a delusion combined with fragile sense of self. *Everything* is up for grabs to protect the ego from harm. There is no logic. And that’s why comprehensive therapy ought to be mandatory before trans medicalisation. That would go a long way to close Pandora’s box.
It’s not right that India gets to call JK Rowling all kinds of derogatory names, but when JK does it, India accuses her of a hate crime. It’s ridiculous and completely unfair. India is wrong!
classic male privilege... Im gonna guess he grew up in a dysfunctional but economically "healthy" family... one that gave him a good financial foundation but terrible ethical foundation.
It's NOT EVEN "derogatory", to call an evidence-based man "he"; It's the normal, gramatical, correct pronoun. Willoby's IDEOLOGY may declare that the standard pronouns, that 99% of males accept without issue, are uniquely "offensive" TO HIM, for whatever reason... But he's an authoritarian ideologue, to believe that "MY ideology dictates what EVERYONE ELSE can/can't say". Really, it's RELIGIOUS authoritarianism; The whole idea of "gender", independeant of biiological sex, is a RELIGIOUS belief, with no basis in empirical evidence, 100% "taken on faith"; Your (sex indepedent) "gender" is just a slightly-tweaked version of your "soul"- Some invisible, totally undetectable thing which (believers claim) defines "your TRUE self, your REAL identity", in some spooky, mystical, metaphysical sense, unrelated to verifiable, evidence-based reality. Claiming that "I'm biologically male, but my GENDER makes me a woman" is functionally 100% identical to claiming "I have a male body, but a female SOUL". This whole thing is an authoritarian religious movement, DEEPLY intolrent of non-believers, dressed up as a "human rights struggle" (while they actively DESTROY the most basic human rights of 99% of the population- The right to free speech and freedom of belief, womens' right to fair sports, and the privacy and dignity of single-sex bathrooms and changerooms. Childrens rigght to not be chemically mutilated, for no evidence-based reason)
Not just J.K., ANY woman who disagrees with Willoughby, who is either misogynist or self-loathing, depending which audience he is working & identifying as trans woman or more woman than J.K.
India is still a man. Pharmasurgical drag procedures do not change that fact, and undergoing them appears to just further degrade already vulnerable peoples mental health. It is harmful to patients and perhaps why medicalization should be questioned as any sort of actual "health" treatment. What would actually be progressive is recognizing that some men like Willoghby exsist and accepting that fact.
And that's the issue. Gender dysphoria is a mental disorder as defined by the DSM-V-TR. To blame people for the s-de rate of mentally troubled people is beyond contemptuous.
The law can say what it wants but people can recognize whats correct. People know that killing is bad so nobody argues against it. People know that building sandcastles is harmless so people question why such a law exists in spain. People know that these individuals are not female so they are gonna question the law if somebody who is clearly a man is for some reason not legally classified as such
He. He’s an adult male, a man, it’s plain reality. I have no more patience nor grace to offer. Changing sex is not possible. It matters that we are able to clearly define what a man and a woman is and I will never be bullied into altering language and truth in order to suit someone’s feelings. Being ‘kind’ is what got us to this absurdity. I’d rather be truthful!
Yeah I think if we can learn to accept some people feel this way, we can move more towards free speech in this area and everything being less sensitive.
Well said. The virtue signalling 'be kind' section of society have turned a blind eye to reality and facts to appear as virtuous and have thrown women and girls' rights under the bus. Transmaidens have aided and abetted this cult
@@ivydark9741 Isn’t KJ Rowling allowed dislike certain people? Disliking someone and wishing them harm are two different things. Rowling’s dislike of India as is India’s dislike of Rowling is really quite obvious. I’m on Rowling’s side by the way, but it’s clear they dislike each other.
As a 'gender critical',how does it help me to understand male sexuality? I just want Dave, now Janet to not come in to my change room. Please tell me Jack, why I need to understand male sexuality. I think Helen Joyce said it quite well 'i don't want to know' . Just stay out of our toilets
I think for an average woman in this conversation, you are right. But for those leading it and trying to explain to people why males should not be allowed into female spaces, describing this can be helpful. I also see a lot of women treat these men - the ones who don’t encroach on their spaces - really horribly. I don’t think that’s right if they have an affliction they cannot help and are not doing anything immoral.
@@JackxJewellyes, there needs to be both compassion whilst maintaining strict boundaries. That’s the humane approach to finding resolution. That said, I believe AGP and another you mention (P) are disorders as opposed to preferences. Potentially born of trauma, and I doubt of nature.
@@angelelida4680 Well I think they cause disorders as neither can be satisfied. AGPs will never be women and Ps can never get what they want without harming children. It kind of makes me think if I had to live in a world in which i couldn’t act on being gay, then it would cause disorder, suffering, and possibly harmful behaviour. Obviously not equating the two though as you can be gay and be completely moral acting on it, as well as not needing to deny reality.
@@JackxJewell I agree, but also suspect it’s more nuanced. For example, in person A, satisfaction being impossible could lead to disorder. In person B, other aspects in their psyche may mean it’s disordered from incarnation or close too. I’d suspect due to any interplay between trauma, and the nature of that trauma, in combination with parental modelling in childhood and related learned behaviours, the degree of secure attachment from infancy, and how they all dovetail with the broader environmental landscape during earlier development in particular (authority figures, programming, bias, influences - family/friends/church/school/TV/community etc.) which may be compounded by later experiences (confirming or challenging core beliefs). As an aside, whilst you’re exploring this subject you may be interested in checking out the work of Gabor Maté. I think it may offer insight from an entirely different direction which you may find interesting.
@@JackxJewell oh, I just realised our convo developed in different threads, so for clarification my present position has shifted in response to our convo (which makes me smile, as isn’t that the point of discourse?!). As of this moment, I’m not convinced AGP is inherently a disorder, but would categorise it as such if involving other people without their consent (irrespective of their awareness of participation) to get sexual satisfaction - such as the changing room man example given in the other video. Equally, if it reaches a point of pathology where it is interfering with their daily life/family/work/health etc. For example, cross dressing at home or engaging in similar private activities alone or with consenting adults to get gratification may not be a disorder, but part of the diversity of sexual drivers. However, I do still believe P is a disorder. That’s said, if the latter are taking no actions, then they only have my compassion. And I only mention them together due to the reference of both potentially being categorised as orientations/preferences, as opposed to conflating them.
India does seem to be obsessed with JK Rowling. The photo wearing the identical outfit was beyond creepy. However another creepy fact that has emerged recently is that India originally chose the name Joanne and lived under that name for a period before changing it to India.
Archaeologists of the future will find India’s bones when all the tissue and hormones are long gone and say within a moment’s glance, “male.” So in addition to the first 49 years, India will spend the rest of eternity being judged by any informed neutral party as male.
If someone referred to me (a woman) with male pronouns, i would not react violently or emotionally. Obviously there is something in India that knows her maleness is permanent.
Same, I’m biologically female with masculine facial features like sharp cheekbones and several Trans women have asked me who my surgeon was. It didn’t hurt me in the least, nor cause me to question my femininity or inherent femaleness. Those homosexual-Trans folks who are closer to the drag side go through serious surgeries to try and feminize their faces. Some come out much prettier than I am-and with little to no cellulite 🙄 So even though they’re essentially telling me “you look more masculine than I think a woman ought to look,” I always took it as a compliment. You know when someone is coming from a hateful place or not. And healthy people have INTERNAL self-esteem that would bounce back even if they were offended or hurt. *edited for autocorrect misspelling ‘ought’
He was in his element in the middle of those ladies fawning over him. That's why he's so furious when women stop toeing the line, especially JK Rowling, who's more famous, more glamorours, richer, more talented etc.
I don’t care how you identify Just don’t expect me to play along with you For people who are supposed kind and inclusive I have never seen so much anger and hate.
Ultimately, I don't think it matters what Jonathon thinks he is. He is an unlikeable, selfish individual. What he wants is the whole world to recognise him as a woman and then bow down to him. He spends his time crying because many of us won't do either. My compassion is in drought.
Loved your video. Very balanced - if anything too nice towards a nasty misogynist. What I recognise in Jonathan/India Willoughby is extremely agressive, narcissistic, arrogant, entitled male - ALL MALE - behaviour. As a straight man there is a nothing feminine about that bully. You seem like a decent, kind, person.
Thank you! Totally agree India is awful. I guess my angle was to show how India possibly got to this point because of AGP - and how most of society is not aware this is a thing. Thanks for watching!
@@JackxJewellI actually appreciate that approach. The way to solve this is with understanding, and maintaining inner compassion whilst holding external boundaries.
A very nuanced take, thank you for that! Does India Willoughby deserve compassion and grace? Well. I think as a default, everyone does. But - I think you also have to treat people according to their behaviour. If someone acts in a rude, disrespectful, unreasonable manner time after time after time, you have to stop wit the grace and the compassion and start laying down boundaries. The person in question is an adult. I think it is not unreasonable to expect him to behave like one.
It apears that Indias unreasonable behaviour is in parallel with the now heated online discourse. Name calling on both the radical feminist side and trans activists won't achieve anything. What will is compassion on both sides. This whole mess is mainly an online escalating war of words in the UK. The only trans people I see in daily life are on social media. Dispite what social media presents. My reality is living in a city is, once a year I'll spot someone. Fact only 0.00008571428% of the population have GRAs. That 6000 ÷ 70 million. 2% of males are genuinely homosexual. It's true there are a few more people now who identify as " trans". Of different flavours. In the now official debunked last census 250,000 identified as some kind of trans. Within the flawed terminology of tbe census. Anyone putting down anything other than transwoman?, were placed in the " other" category. This included transsexuals. Part the the homogenous catorrisation activists instructed them. The question that needs asking is. Does social media highly exaggerate the problem?. The facts say yes.
Absolutely not for India’s actions. I can see when examining the story how it has led India to this point of self centredness, so I can feel compassionate for what India went through, but it doesn’t excuse treating others how India has
@@JackxJewell food for thought before bowing out of the discussion. I recently mentioned to a women friend, that I was thinking of going sometime to the Warner Studios Tour. Would she be interested. Her answer surprised me. She said no, as her opinion was that JK is " against the gays ", I was surprised she even knew anything about her gender critcal beliefs. She obviously thinks, and links her love of drag acts to Jks beliefs. LGBT is so linked in some people's minds that, it's all the same. She's a Tory voter as well. We have tipped over a precipis where most people beleive this. Most people especialy non feminist women are only concerned if someone has a cock or not. When using women's spaces. Part of the original " Stanilan question ". The LGB alliance are seen as a fringe group of angry gays in all of the gay pubs I've visited with my couple of gay friends. Even a pub that used to be an almost exlusive lesbian hangout. I was surprised it changed its ethos to an LGBTQ bar. I asked my friend why. I was told that there were not enough lesbians frequenting it anymore. They're calling themselves queer now. It's almost certain that the Tories will be pushing the, as most people see it " the anti LGBTQIA agenda ". Labour will all most certainly win the next election. With many Tories voting Labour for the fist time. After they do. The Tories will resume their historical hatred of ideological feminism. Partly blaming them for their defeat. All reasoned debate now has gone with both sides of the so called gender wars. Queer theory over time will go by the way. What may come after will be trans humanism. The new trans cyborg implants will be the craze. I do think that the days of the Matachine social construction of homosexuality of the late 60s will never be the same. Effeminate gay men have had enough. Many like Same Smith reverting to the 1930s and before ideas of homosexuality. People are now more accepting of difference. Strip out the intersectionaly of woke, which I beleive has reached its peak. The world is facing greater challenges. A balance, an equilibrium will be reached. Only after the inevitable influence of anti homosexuality on the rise from some religions has been dealt with, aided by the far right. It's going to be an intersting time. Personaly I'm fed up with being one of the very few who support science. I'm now officially in retirement. Fed up of the cancellation. Bye
@@honberg193 Yes, the relatively small number of people is used to tell us not to worry, but somehow is dictating to over 99% of us. Also, it was women's compassion and kindness that led to ever- increasing encroachment on our spaces and identity. It's interesting that women just asking for respect and consideration and the right to have our own identity is seen as "radical feminism", as if only smiling sweetly when our rights, safety and privacy are eroded is the only acceptable way for women to behave.
@@MarthaAnthony I think your living your life on social media. Not the real world, where tran- nees aren't invading women's spaces. I've never, ever seen one in a public loo. Well not that I could tell.
India defended ‘Isla Bryson’ ‘s right to have female pronouns used and said that Isla might be a woman and that a “civilized society” would respect Isla’s identity. India did this instead of defending the protections made for trans people and saying that perpetrators shouldn’t be able to just take advantage of these protections and declare trans identities after their crimes. It wasn’t a female body that attacked those victims who worked for a conviction. India had even written an article about people abusing the prison system protections yet wouldn’t draw a line for a convicted abuser not to be able to declare a different gender after their crime. This showed no sense of loyalty or sisterhood to women or trans women for that matter so women now don’t feel loyal towards her.
@@JackxJewell Maybe so. In that interview India talked about cherry picking bad apples, but the point of debating a GRA is to see if the policy has weaknesses, and this case pointed out that it does. It is a policy that bad apples can take advantage of so it has gaps to close. I just wish that there was more grace in these issues to say that much of this is a social experiment and we might try things and then have to revise as we go along. Society has always had gender nonconforming people, but people transitioning medically in these numbers now that it is more accessible isn’t anything society has navigated before.
India has also claimed that nobody ever exploits the system from their own end and all trans women are decent upstanding citizens no exceptions. I have also seen India completely contradict themselves in an interview literally seconds apart so their opinion holds very little weight
Why would you expect this narcissistic, aggressive AGP to have any fellow feeling for women? That person doesn't recognize women as real or legitimate in any way.
I’m not a Harry Potter fan either, but JK Rowling and her supporters are 100% right, whereas Jonathan “India” Willoughby, other transpeople and their supporters are 100% wrong.
Yea no. I don't have to have compassion when I've been a victim of narc rage from "transwomen", and narc men I have to cut out my life, I will not bend the knee for a man's fetish. Why is it MY responsibility as a woman to maintain his fantasy. Especially when many of these AGPs expect me especially to mule for them as a black woman. Empathy is long gone.
White woman here ... also sick of MAN-kind's self imposed identity existential/identity crisis. MEN have misused their power AND siphoned WOMEN'S energy to make this THEIR world ... not OUR world. I'm also sick of their BS and their hatred/jealousy of the very HUMANS who grew them, nurtured them and gave birth to them ... and all the rest that goes with that. They so want to BE us that they'll attempt to change their sex/genitalia. That's a MEN-tal illness.
I think India provoked this confrontation specifically to be able to go crying to the police. Well, that nonsense blew up in her face. JK saying something that you don't like, India, is NOT violence, and not a hate crime. Grow up.
@@JackxJewell idiots seem to have an extra storage bin of energy. I guess they don't expend energy on logical thinking so it gives them plenty of energy to be idiots.
This was very well done, thank you~ Bottom line, female child + time = woman Male child + time + transition = trans woman. Pretending otherwise serves no good purpose. We don't pretend that anorexic people are right and call them fat because they believe that's what they are. We try to help. If you leave 20 average young men + 20 average young women on an abundant desert island, you'd come back 100 years later to find new people. If you left those same men with 20 young trans women, you'd come back 100 years later to find 40 dead people. Responsible, decent trans women are honest about who they really are. India Willoughby doesn't have that strength of character.
You have a good heart, Jack & I’m almost convinced by your call for compassion (😉 ) I’d be better able to feel that way if they would just keep it to themselves. It’s the desire - demand - that women & the rest of the world see them the way they see themselves, & to bow to their demands for our affirmation, that is so galling. A subjective view is not equivalent to objective truth & everyone should be able to assert this. And it’s here that ‘India’ Willoughby cannot push through to reality. Your analysis of his paraphilia is spot on, & if he’d been able to contain it as what it is - a delusional state - he may have garnered more sympathy. But his utter self-absorption, inability to see beyond his own needs & rejection of any objective reality has put him into an impossible place. If he does not have an awareness of his paraphilia, then he needs proper therapy. The fact that he would call that ‘conversion therapy’ is yet further proof that he has no intension of even trying to get his head out of his own backside. Just as David Tennant did by saying that a woman should “shut up”, Willoughby continues to undermine every woman alive with his male privilege. The inability to understand that women do not know, in a women’s toilet for example, whether any given male is a threat or not, completely reveals that he has no idea what it is to feel line - or to be - a woman.
That how these movements end. They go down in ugly infighting and mental illness, since it is impossible for anyone to live up the ever-changing ideals. I vaguely remember my mother dipping her foot in the last years of the hippie-movement in the early 80's. It was sad and pathetic....
It is not a hate crime and if anyone "misgenders" a "cis" woman...they don't care as they know what they are.... and just because someone says otherwise doesn't make it accurate or true and all their evidence also backs up that fact...DNA chromosomes, pelvic and total body formation..... (heart and lung and throat size all which affect how fast she recovers and stamina etc... advantages which male-born bodies keep when competing in female sports...)
"You don't know how I feel" while showing complete disregard for anyone else's feelings. This whole argument IS tied to a civil rights movement of a political minority - WOMEN.
I can’t understand why some trans women say that they have periods or fantasise with them. As a biological women I can say that most of us hate to have periods. It’s painful, messy, expensive….
Thank you, @JackxJewell, for speaking up, even at cost to yourself. Thank you for covering this topic and sharing your perspectives. Loved your editing in this video! And your thorough research - building a case with receipts (from Twitter/X and interview clips) - allows your viewers to come to more informed conclusions, rather than just blindly agreeing (or disagreeing). Really appreciated this video!
When I was younger and more naive, I went to Germany shortly after my grandmother died, I simply needed to get away as you can imagine. 1 night, I decided to venture to some of Berlin’s gay bars, one of which after walking in and sitting down, I look over my shoulder and quite literally see a guy elbow deep up another guy. I tell this story because there are those within the community who can fathom that someone would be into this, yet they draw the line at AGP being a thing at all.
OH NO, I've NEVER played with lipstick as a girl growing up, I must be a man according to Willoby.... I could scream in the street and demand that everybody call me and see me as Idris Alba but everybody in the world will know I'm not...
This video was really well done. I'm dipping my toe into being a little gender - critical, but it's hard to find the nuanced discussions because so much gender -critical content is just so full of hate. Even your AGP discussion was nuanced and compassionate which I really appreciated. Will watch more of your content and have subbed!
haa all the madness out there makng ou finally need to dip your toe in? Take off our shoes is my advice. It is not hate and if it feels thus, it's sadly the pushback that comes of those who go to far into women's sports and spaces with a lack of respect and a denial of reality.It will cause a push back. Someone's personal identity is only their business as it is how they see them, not how others see them.
If you are dipping your toe, I’d start with Material Girls by Kathleen Stock (there’s an audio version read by Kathleen). KS is an analytical philosopher so lays are the conceptual issues with gender identity theory without any hate but also without the confusing language of postmodern philosophy loved by the pro-trans side. Kathleen gets flack from both sides precisely because she doesn’t take a purely black and white stance.
Im so glad AGP is being spoken about now more often. I personally only heard about AGP 5 or 6 years ago but it was from a trans activist and then i seen contra pionts making a debunking video about AGP so i didn't see it as a real thing. Now in the last 2 or 3 years i've seen so many videos like your own that explain it so well and i now know i've been AGP all this time. I used to just think of myself as a transvestite befoe the internet and then i search the internet for information to find out why i am like that and i found transvestite to be a negative thing and transgender to be positive and i started believing i was a woman and not a man with a fetish which the sites i was reading kept saying. But known spoke of agp. I know know that i had it right to begin with i am an transvestite. Or an agp as i know it now and i am a man and the reason i am an agp is because i have an inverted male sexuallity and not because i have a female brain/soul
Absolutely nothing wrong with having a fetish or kink. There are many ways to safely explore alone or with consenting adults. And I see nothing wrong with transvestiteism as a way to emotionally express or sexually release. Moreover, gender-bending presentation in public I’m all for, because gender norms are outdated, and why can’t people just be themselves? But the current movement appears to be undermining all of that, and simultaneously deleting gay, and destroying women’s rights, whilst penalising original-flavour trans. It’s absolutely a destructive force.
One has to wonder how much 'outrage' keeps people in the public eye therefore earning revenue from TV appearances, magazine articles etc. Pretty lucrative maybe.
I have never thought of Willoughby as an autogynephile. He divorced from his wife and publicly spoke out about not being attracted to women. I believed him to be a gay man with internalised homophobia, a homosexual transexuals. AGPs are heterosexual men with Transvestic paraphilias and are aroused by the thought of themselves as a woman and are attracted to themselves larping as female. Are there such things as gay autogynephiles? Surely that's an oxymoron? Gay men aren't attracted to women, whether that be real woman, or a fantasy version of a woman, either themselves or anyone else. What do you think?
If India is only attracted to men, then I am incorrect. But you can identity as ‘bisexual’ or ‘asexual’ and will still fit in agp - India could be either. If the agp sexuality is so strong, it can actually render external attraction mute. If asexual, it may still be easy for an agp to date a guy as it further validates their womanhood. But gay? I just don’t buy it. My gaydar is dead as a doorknob watching it all. Gay trans women don’t lead a double life and go away for a weekend cross dressing. They don’t flip from completely masculine to a female outfit and hair and suddenly they’re all ‘feminine.’ I also find India’s outfits not at all tasteful at the beginning… they’re sort of a man’s idea of what he fancies. I may be wrong, but you don’t see the gay type trans women abusing other women the way India has done for years.
@@JackxJewell I think you are right. And if India knows what AGP is all about and is desperate not to have that label there’s an incentive to tell everyone you are not attracted to women. And seeing as India has slagged off lesbians in the past he probably realises he can’t really identify as one in public so has no option other than to say he’s attracted to men. Obviously just speculation!
Homsexual attraction in regard to birth sex is described an external erotic attraction. Attraction to men, their bodies, their genitals etc. Romatic love of a man. This can be in an active or passive form. Those with AGP are not attracted in this way to men. Where as, internalised homophobia is being attracted to men and not expressing that attraction. The sex experts, the mainstream sexologists, such as Blanchard point out that one cannot be AGP and attracted to men. Some AGPs like the idea of a man finding them attractive. This is not the same. Some clarification on homosexual transsexuals. A quote from Dr James Cantor, who is a gay man and a fellow of Blanchard, Bailey, Soh etc. " We know that gay brains are slightly pushed in the female direction. You can take the homosexual transsexual in two ways. Either regular homosexuals are incomplete transsexuals, or the homosexual transsexuals are incomplete regular homosexuals " .All of Indias claims on the brain relate to homosexuals and homosexual transsexuals. From the evidence India was married to a women and produced kids. So their isn't any internalised homophobia.
@@honberg193 I don't know where my reply has gone, I can't see it. He stated on BB that he wasnt attracted to women and that he hadn't persuaded a relationship through fear, since his divorce. Many gay men marry women, especially those with internalised homophobia.
I think the reason Willoughby stays on twitter is for two reasons, validation because he does have a small following that endorse his beliefs that he's female. However the main reason I believe is because he currently doesn't work, he hasn't worked for a long time. He craves celebrity, he needs to keep himself relevant so he'll be asked to give interviews or do a bit of trash TV like BB. Without twitter he has no voice and would quickly disappear in obscurity. I've been blocked by him after trying to have a debate with him about trans identifying males in female sports. He's very tunnel visioned and blinkered. Considering he thinks he's female he's very out of touch with with having empathy or understanding about women's rights.
Yeah this video definitely hit! I had to go back and watch the first half since I missed it during the premiere, but I really liked what you had to say here. I feel bad because I used to "hate" JK Rowling without question because I just was told she was transphobic and didn't really think deeper than that. As I've grown and thought for myself more, I feel terrible for demonizing her. I can't imagine how difficult it must be to try and speak out to protect women and our spaces, yet getting denounced by colleagues and friends because of it. Thank you again for the amazing video! It definitely helps me to articulate the thoughts I've been having as I reflect on my time growing up around "trans" kids and seeing the trend of transitioning online. (What do you think will happen to all the chronically-online "trans" men and women tik tok if the app gets banned in the US?)
Thank you! Don’t feel bad, I think it’s wonderful you were open to your mind changing. It’s a good sign that it is possible for any of us. Obviously for the majority, they feel they are condemning her for the right reasons. On TikTok - I assume another company will swoop in and create an app with a similar model. UA-cam shorts and Insta Reels have a very different style of content, so they would have to diversify to assume that position.
I think Muggles go mad on social media and it would be better for the world if they had less of it. lOL. Good for questioning things you're told and thinking for yourself. Sad one needs to be praised for that, but it has become so rare.
Great video Jack. I found your discussion of AGP to be very educational and nonjudgmental, a perspective that’s very much needed in the trans discourse.
This is honestly the best discussion of AGP I’ve seen so far. I’ve been listening to many gender critical and/or anti-trans individuals because I wanted to try to understand the full topic from all sides. This was so helpful to really understand the AGP disposition, especially in a way that wasn’t hurtful or judgmental. Thank you so much 🙏❤️
Do we need to understand these things? Most people don`t know about `gender critical`, `trans` `SRS` etc etc. They just know men masquerading as women need to keep out of womens` spaces and sports. What is so difficult about that, that it needs to be turned into a sociological discussion? All that does is make it a possibility for men who think they`re women to go into womens` spaces, as long as it`s argued well enough. And that of course is not acceptable, is ignoring women, and, again, making this all about men and their needs.
I feel like no matter how hard I try to express this thinking, people conflate it with me saying these men should be granted access to female spaces and their behavior ignored. I am saying that future men will continue to develop this sexuality. If we have better understanding over it, these adolescents will be more likely to get professional help and many of them won't even transition. So many young men are being lured by trans reddit 'egg' culture and porn. There are no professionals saying 'you have agp, let us help you.' The TRAs are the only group giving them a sense of belonging and support. I find this similar to how the TRAs respond to statements like this: -Me: I dont think trans women should be allowed play in female sports. TRA: You're saying we don't exist! It's so unproductive. I think a lot of the GCs don't want to face the fact that guys with AGP are human beings and how they have been so horrible to so many people. It could be your son. How would you feel if you had a child or family member suffering from this with no one to help guide them in the right direction? Hopefully this makes more sense.@@barryledgister4496
Whoa....that aggressive attack on the woman who ' misgendered,' India...whoa...Im back to being pretty unsympathetic to this psychological abberation called AGP...and India in particular. Stop it... get some help.
AGP was new to me. and I'm 57, man, living in the free world. Why nobody is teaching this stuff in high schools? I never had to climb a rope in my life after. But sure could have used some better understanding of genders and phycology. O, and admin...😊
This was so well explained and made so much sense especially when you compared AGP transsexuals and homosexual transsexuals. I also follow Alexis Blake - she is lovely.
I just wonder what happened to the idea that i may have offended you, i still dgaf. Be offended. Crazy it seems like it's become law that you cant offend somebody. People seem to conflate being offended with an actual attack. Just ridiculous
A balanced and well thought out explanation of the current madness. Isn't it sad that a gay man shows more empathy for women's struggles than someone who claims to be a biological woman. Thank you for your contribution,
It's strange that noone takes offense to laws against crimes like murder .. the law isn't suggesting that without the law we'd all be on rampages, it's to allow for prosecution. If not for the law, then those few that are inclined to murder would be given free license to do so.
Jamie Dodger has a massive following - loads of young impressionable teenage girls - many of them that have gone done the surgery route after being influenced. I really hope that audience start finding your channel.
Yeah - the issues is that everyone that watches pretty much agrees with me! I'm not sure if I've seen comments before saying I've changed someone's viewpoint, which is wild. But most don't comment I guess, so maybe. Jamie seems like a nice person but he is pushing the agenda so hard. Always says the regret rate is 1%.@@HomosexualTomBoy
@@JackxJewell it’s his business because nobody cared for his thesis on transgender treatments in psychology. Careful, he’s quite militant and very absolutist in his views. Notice how he intentionally makes it about the gays occasionally. It’s the same tactic anthroposophical ‘medicine’ companies use by producing phytomedicine from plants that have been used for thousands of years while also promoting homeopathy so the public mixes the two things up and it gets this all natural, less synthetic chemistry etc. touch while at the core you’re paying for bullshit.
@@JackxJewell Jammi banned me because I asked about the systematic reviews of evidence and in a livestream told someone questioning if they were trans to not worry because they don't have to be defined by gender or sex. She literally closed down the livestream. She is an absolute extremist. The definition of bad faith and disingenuous. She knows the evidence exists and continues to pretend it doesn't. She's encouraging children, her main audience, to self-harm for her own ego.
I love your angle and dedication to bringing actual reality into a conversation which is getting increasingly absent of it - but that intro, I had to skip it - recommended to keep without any of the effects, filters or time compression. Otherwise keep up the good work.
I have never virtue-signaled and never will. Also, the "We are building a home here," clip has been and always will be 100% cringe. Colleges are about being educated, anyone that thinks otherwise has a screw loose.
Wow, this was very in-depth, thank you. Misogyny and male privilege is out of control and she will spiral into a breakdown if she does not practice some serious introspection.
Why do these more talked about transwomen get names of strippers? Reminds me of one of the characters in a Clint Eastwood film, Midnight in the garden of good and evil, he called himself Lady Chablis, yes from a wine bottle...
Thank you for this discussion. I was previously too abrupt. I apologize. Your reasoned explanation of autogynephilia gives me a better perspective. I still dont think males with intact genitalia belong in womens space but Ifeel more sympathy for AGPs than I did previously. The points that folks such as Rowling make are legitimate and are about safeguarding, primarily. Some accomodation can perhaps be made without opening the bathroom doors wide ( so to speak) for bad actors to come in and damage women and girls.
Yeah I think you get a range of personality types within that group, like any men. Perhaps there are a higher percentage of personality disorders though than usual. Autism is also much more prevalent which can cause behavioural and social issues. But yes - no males in women’s spaces in any regard! 😁
That was absolutely bloody excellent. It was well research, well presented, (when you did actually get into it, longest intro I've ever watched), I learned a lot listening to you so I subscribed. While the intro was good and catchy, I'd make it shorter because I almost switched off. When content is fast and loud and thrown me, I do normally switch off but I didn't with you Mmmmm I think your channel will grow and grow. Excellent reporting.
I did it without thinking. I don't obsess over pronouns to make a point. I don't respect India, so I don't care saying he. But I will call transwomen who are respectful and open 'she.' It doesn't mean I think they are women.
Very educational, and so pleased you addressed trans narcissistic rage. Male patterns of violence persist too, I wonder if there is a link between that and the trans autogynophile typology?
Incredible analysis. This video hits it out of the park! (I don’t like the opening - too long and fast forwarding the voices sound terrible and it’s annoying).
42:05 true.. thats the bigger problem; the craving on acceptnce as a Woman: using masculine trades; and therefor really inhancing the difference between the genders(sex (?) .. 😂 so glad you Saw that, and Said it too. I really Want to safe guard all genders and sexes; to a common better place; but we need to be able to tell the truth too. 👍🏼👏🏼🙏🏼 live in reality ..
The thing that’s struck me about India, is that one minute she’s saying “I’m a real woman”, while also celebrating her being trans. Here’s my passport that says I’m a woman. VS Twitter bio says something like UK’s first trans newsreader. Surely every time she logs into Twitter, she sees “the hate” she accuses JKR of on her own homepage. After all, you can’t be trans if you weren’t a man to start with. It’s all very confusing.
This is such an interesting deep dive! Thank you for making this. I guess the only question now is what can we do about autogynophiles when they transition or shortly before they do?
Some people think none should transition. From what I’ve read so far, I don’t think that will work. In history, there are accounts for some men in desperation wanting their parts just removed as they couldn’t deal with the dysphoria - before gender medicine existed. I think there will always be a small portion, at least, that will suffer perpetually if they don’t do anything. The issue now, is lots of men who otherwise would have dealt with the feelings or had it mildly, are being lured into it because the services are so available, and the agp porn can cause the desire to build and build. If transitioning didn’t exist, lots of men wouldn’t become obsessed with the prospect of actually becoming the woman. Regardless, I think gender clinics should all be identifying and diagnosing men with this so they are given lots of help in understanding it before making any permanent decisions. It’s never talked about! It’s mad how many trans women have this and they either don’t know, or have been brainwashed by the community to believe it all just means they are a woman. If a society provides transition services, then I think 3rd unisex spaces should be mandatory, as women need to be protected as well x
I think your video was excellent Jack. Listening as a gay man too, I really enjoyed listening to your mature, balanced and non judgemental views on this subject. Some aspects of the trans movement has become quite controversial. There definitely needs to be more open discussion on this subject and your video I think is very helpful in doing that.
@@LawyerLevin thank you! I’m sure I would have lots. I would say just start making content and you will get better as you go. Don’t procrastinate wanting things to be perfect. I started on my phone with no mic or lights or anything and got better at editing as I go. I use CapCut for editing. For video essays I do research and then plan out my arguments in bullet points, marking where I will use different articles or clips. I get inspiration when editing and new ideas come. Most importantly, stay true to your style - you can take inspiration from people, but don’t feel you need to copy. Everyone has something unique to offer x
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I truly, truly enjoyed this, and it was extremely informative. Thanks, and keep up the great conversations. I’m a woman/female and I don’t perceive transgender women as women.
Ah, what a wonderful time to be a man. In this era, it's a unique experience for men as they navigate a world where they can identify as women and dictate how women should perceive their own womanhood. This includes redefining aspects like menstruation, implying that women lack understanding of their own biology, and suggesting that only a man claiming to be a woman can truly comprehend it!
@@mystic22g4 It’s out of order! Presenting as a woman is one thing, but to disrespect and claim the full experience is all kinds of bad.
@@mystic22g4Individuals have chosen to live as opposite sex for generations, often only discovered posthumously. 1 in 2,000 human births gender non-specific & used to be randomly surgically assigned, native populations called it 3rd Spirited.
Based and balanced are just buzzwords for anything that would come out of ben shapiro's mouth. Why do you care so much? Who hurt you?
@@JackxJewellin case you didn’t see my OP I’ll duplicate here:
Incredible video. Please do contact Blaire White and Buck Angel, send them a copy/link and say you’d be open to being on their shows. I believe that could be very powerful.
No woman ever says I am legally a woman .
Thank you. My thoughts exactly!
Or gets offended when someone says they aren’t. Like it’s just what? Ok
In this clown world I do wonder if we shall remain so though. lol.
I am, naturally, a woman.
cuz that's how nature do.
accept no imitations!
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As Helen Joyce said, "to identify as a trans woman, you have to be a man" or words to that effect.
India's behaviour affirms everything JK rowling calls her lol
Him
HIM
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@@KimWest-nq4joI must say India always had a very feminine face though. So he passes as a woman very well.
@ivydark9741 He really doesn't though.
Having been in a cult I recognise the cult mind. This movement has every marking.
I wish psychologists would focus on that clear fact more. We could then perhaps stop this madness.
& as survivor of narcissist & mentally ill abusers, plenty of that to go around here as well.
I second that. Just spent one month in such a cult space.
I can only imagine,😕 but not surprised at all. The trans Ideology definitely ticks ALL the boxes...I've always called it a cult because that's what it is!
it really does
I am a straight man who has AGP, but I am NOT trans, I am a man. I have no right to a woman's space and I am not going to force others to indulge my fetishes. I engage in my own vices in my own home and don't expect society to change around my preferences.
Thank you for being an accountable, considerate and sensible human being. Much of the discourse isn't so much about people's gender identity or sexuality, it's about those who are narcissistic, entitled, exploitative and coercive to others, no matter their identity or proclivities. Unfortunately, it just so happens that some people in these spheres are the kind to put their own indulgences and self-interest above the needs of others, and want an exemption to be anti-social. And then, there are fetishists and posers who'd get off on the harassment itself, and they are just waiting for an excuse to enter women's and children's spaces. Women's spaces weren't implemented to protect women from good men, they were implemented to protect us from exactly the sort deviants I just described, who now have full access and license to harass with no repercussions. It is so obvious sometimes, and yet we are expected to pretend not to notice and to never raise an issue.
@@annaxyz5132 and it's not that I feel shame about my AGP but I see no reason to discuss it in open society, who cares what I find attractive? It seems so strange to me that people believe they can physically become the opposite sex, its nonsense, no mammal can change sex.
We have special places for woman and I as a man, have a responsibility to ensure they are maintained. We are constantly told the emperor has amazing clothes, but I can see he's naked.
Thanks for sharing. Do you feel yours is easily controlled? I think there seems to be different intensities some men have. Around 3% of men experience agp, but most have it more mildly. It actually becomes a paraphilic disorder if it causes destruction to your life. Most men who transition are at literal breaking point - I think they’re beyond being able to think clearly
@@JackxJewell I would probably disagree with your wording of "controlled". I think it's the same as any other fetish, do it in your own home, consenting adults and away from children, it's not hard.
Maybe because I don't feel the need to dress as a woman or invade woman spaces it's easier on me but idk.
@user-qz7vs8cx8o heya, sorry it came across that way. I did mean that some people struggle too much to be able to manage it without transitioning, so it was in good faith. I don’t think it’s irrational, just that it can cause a lot of distress and make it difficult to function. Would this make more sense? My point was, I’ve seen people shame it a lot and speak as though everyone who has it could manage without transitioning, but to me it seems like a portion would struggle a lot without. It was definitely meant to be in support of your situation x
Rowling is a hero - one of the few high profile people to take a well considered, principled stand and stick to it with integrity and kindness - she only has gotten sneery and joking when people came at her with vile, unfounded commentary - I admire her and I’ve not read her books or seen the movies based on them.
I didn't often agree with JK's political opinions and I wasn't even a fan of the novels (although the rest of my family are crazy fans) but her bravery and steadfastness have been inspiring. I've also learned that she has contributed a huge about of her mone to charities.
+charlesgeorge8430,
T H I S !🥰💙💞
I love JK Rowling for standing up for reality.
If you need to argue, "legally im a woman" then you're probably not a woman.
Muggle legal system got problems if it can change gender legally.ha. I mean only transfiguration can go so far and they do not even have that.
There's no probably about it. NO man can EVER be or become a woman of ANY or or category under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES WHATSOFUCKINGEVER. Of course Willoughby is the one in the wrong. HE is an ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE person. And JKR is an ABSOLUTE hero.
As a 20th century 👑, it is WEIRD seeing non-binary attempt to redefine binary in their own image.
They can only become trans women @@susanhopemason
Probably? Probably?
Jonathon aka India Willoughby shows more masculine behaviour as transwoman, just goes to show a leopard can't change it's spots.
Yep the agressiveness and privilege are huge tells. I see that in a lot of "trans women" acting out hostility to women. The "trans men" don't seem to have the same issues.
Question: How do you know if you have above average intelligence?
Answer: India Willoughby has blocked you.
Good one
Yes 😂
I got blocked for a single comment "Hilarious" on a repost of that thread where India was bashing that fetishist for wearing fishnets and a mini skirt to that debate with Helen Joyce and Thatchell
It is not mis-gendering to call a man a man. It's an observation.
I have always felt that because Lia exposed himself, he did assault the women. I could not understand why this was never followed up
Because in current society, his feelings are more important than all of those women. It’s a really scary reality right now.
@foximoxi8533 I often think 'how did we get here' and I know the historical route. What I really mean though is 'how has the idea that a man is a woman' been accepted by so many? And what sums it up best is the quote I hear every so often and that is: "Trans ideology is believed because transwomen are not women, but men. If anyone believed they were women, no one would ever have listened." It is sad
Govt's and organisations don't care about women and girls, they care about money and some of them are clearly enjoying seeing millions of women and girls getting ab*sed. Very sad times.
Agreed.
Ummm... believing your own transition is more important than helping children with cancer is beyond reprehensible
They’ve been supported and told that their want is more important than womens needs. That they should enter women’s changing rooms, rape shelters, prisons, sports. They have watched children’s health be undermined by this deranged ideology with puberty blockers. They have watched lesbians get abused and manipulated into accepting males in their dating pool because their want is deemed more important than standing for same sex attraction. They have seen people literally say a man should put a baby to their chest to ‘breastfeed’
They have watched people eager to deny objective material reality itself and the evidence of their own eyes in deference to this ‘movement’ and who centre and elevate a delusion over truth itself.
At this point, of course they are confused as to why we might want to prioritise a child with cancer over them. Why would we draw such a line now?
Shows you what sort of people in this.
It's called Narcissism. They are full of themselves
That’s the power of a delusion combined with fragile sense of self. *Everything* is up for grabs to protect the ego from harm. There is no logic. And that’s why comprehensive therapy ought to be mandatory before trans medicalisation. That would go a long way to close Pandora’s box.
AGP Narc with a very strong unhealthy addiction to himself... (IMO ALLEGEDLY).
It’s not right that India gets to call JK Rowling all kinds of derogatory names, but when JK does it, India accuses her of a hate crime. It’s ridiculous and completely unfair. India is wrong!
Lots about all this not right.
classic male privilege... Im gonna guess he grew up in a dysfunctional but economically "healthy" family... one that gave him a good financial foundation but terrible ethical foundation.
It's NOT EVEN "derogatory", to call an evidence-based man "he"; It's the normal, gramatical, correct pronoun.
Willoby's IDEOLOGY may declare that the standard pronouns, that 99% of males accept without issue, are uniquely "offensive" TO HIM, for whatever reason... But he's an authoritarian ideologue, to believe that "MY ideology dictates what EVERYONE ELSE can/can't say".
Really, it's RELIGIOUS authoritarianism; The whole idea of "gender", independeant of biiological sex, is a RELIGIOUS belief, with no basis in empirical evidence, 100% "taken on faith"; Your (sex indepedent) "gender" is just a slightly-tweaked version of your "soul"- Some invisible, totally undetectable thing which (believers claim) defines "your TRUE self, your REAL identity", in some spooky, mystical, metaphysical sense, unrelated to verifiable, evidence-based reality.
Claiming that "I'm biologically male, but my GENDER makes me a woman" is functionally 100% identical to claiming "I have a male body, but a female SOUL".
This whole thing is an authoritarian religious movement, DEEPLY intolrent of non-believers, dressed up as a "human rights struggle" (while they actively DESTROY the most basic human rights of 99% of the population- The right to free speech and freedom of belief, womens' right to fair sports, and the privacy and dignity of single-sex bathrooms and changerooms. Childrens rigght to not be chemically mutilated, for no evidence-based reason)
Not just J.K., ANY woman who disagrees with Willoughby, who is either misogynist or self-loathing, depending which audience he is working & identifying as trans woman or more woman than J.K.
JK Rowling did not call her any derogatory names. Man is not a derogatory name. )
India is still a man. Pharmasurgical drag procedures do not change that fact, and undergoing them appears to just further degrade already vulnerable peoples mental health. It is harmful to patients and perhaps why medicalization should be questioned as any sort of actual "health" treatment. What would actually be progressive is recognizing that some men like Willoghby exsist and accepting that fact.
And that's the issue. Gender dysphoria is a mental disorder as defined by the DSM-V-TR. To blame people for the s-de rate of mentally troubled people is beyond contemptuous.
As a bio-woman , when she says "It's a legal fact", I hear it more as a threat towards others more than as an affirmatio of her own identity.
You're just a woman. The term is based in biology.
There is such thing as bad law. Law which supports a lie is very bad law.
The law can say what it wants but people can recognize whats correct. People know that killing is bad so nobody argues against it. People know that building sandcastles is harmless so people question why such a law exists in spain. People know that these individuals are not female so they are gonna question the law if somebody who is clearly a man is for some reason not legally classified as such
“Him”.
Having compassion for AGPs is fine, but giving them access to female spaces is wrong. They and men in general need to accept that.
Anyone who ‘needs’ to include other, non consenting or oblivious people in their fetish, do not ‘deserve’ compassion.
He. He’s an adult male, a man, it’s plain reality. I have no more patience nor grace to offer. Changing sex is not possible. It matters that we are able to clearly define what a man and a woman is and I will never be bullied into altering language and truth in order to suit someone’s feelings. Being ‘kind’ is what got us to this absurdity. I’d rather be truthful!
Yeah I think if we can learn to accept some people feel this way, we can move more towards free speech in this area and everything being less sensitive.
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Well said. The virtue signalling 'be kind' section of society have turned a blind eye to reality and facts to appear as virtuous and have thrown women and girls' rights under the bus. Transmaidens have aided and abetted this cult
Language doesn’t make or create REALITY. It’s a misunderstanding of LANGUAGE. Saying something DOESN’T MAKE IT TRUE.
Rowiing has never expressed anything hateful about 'trans' people.
She just wants to speak for women and she had every right to do that.
Exactly. She never wished them any harm.
She seems to not like trans people but that’s totally her prerogative.
Doesn’t means she likes them. And for good reason. India is hardly likeable.
@@ivydark9741 Isn’t KJ Rowling allowed dislike certain people? Disliking someone and wishing them harm are two different things. Rowling’s dislike of India as is India’s dislike of Rowling is really quite obvious. I’m on Rowling’s side by the way, but it’s clear they dislike each other.
Yep. If speaking for women's rights is seen as opposing an ideological movement, then that movement is, by definition, sexist and misogynistic.
Oh not a Harry Potter or JK fan. However, she is totally correct. If you have to screech “I’m a woman, I’m legally a woman then your not a woman.
If you were born with a dick, then you are not a woman. It's just that simple.
Joanne is a legend! India is MAN!
Yes he is, he fathered a child!!!
As a 'gender critical',how does it help me to understand male sexuality? I just want Dave, now Janet to not come in to my change room. Please tell me Jack, why I need to understand male sexuality. I think Helen Joyce said it quite well 'i don't want to know' .
Just stay out of our toilets
I think for an average woman in this conversation, you are right. But for those leading it and trying to explain to people why males should not be allowed into female spaces, describing this can be helpful. I also see a lot of women treat these men - the ones who don’t encroach on their spaces - really horribly. I don’t think that’s right if they have an affliction they cannot help and are not doing anything immoral.
@@JackxJewellyes, there needs to be both compassion whilst maintaining strict boundaries. That’s the humane approach to finding resolution.
That said, I believe AGP and another you mention (P) are disorders as opposed to preferences. Potentially born of trauma, and I doubt of nature.
@@angelelida4680 Well I think they cause disorders as neither can be satisfied. AGPs will never be women and Ps can never get what they want without harming children. It kind of makes me think if I had to live in a world in which i couldn’t act on being gay, then it would cause disorder, suffering, and possibly harmful behaviour. Obviously not equating the two though as you can be gay and be completely moral acting on it, as well as not needing to deny reality.
@@JackxJewell I agree, but also suspect it’s more nuanced. For example, in person A, satisfaction being impossible could lead to disorder. In person B, other aspects in their psyche may mean it’s disordered from incarnation or close too. I’d suspect due to any interplay between trauma, and the nature of that trauma, in combination with parental modelling in childhood and related learned behaviours, the degree of secure attachment from infancy, and how they all dovetail with the broader environmental landscape during earlier development in particular (authority figures, programming, bias, influences - family/friends/church/school/TV/community etc.) which may be compounded by later experiences (confirming or challenging core beliefs). As an aside, whilst you’re exploring this subject you may be interested in checking out the work of Gabor Maté. I think it may offer insight from an entirely different direction which you may find interesting.
@@JackxJewell oh, I just realised our convo developed in different threads, so for clarification my present position has shifted in response to our convo (which makes me smile, as isn’t that the point of discourse?!). As of this moment, I’m not convinced AGP is inherently a disorder, but would categorise it as such if involving other people without their consent (irrespective of their awareness of participation) to get sexual satisfaction - such as the changing room man example given in the other video. Equally, if it reaches a point of pathology where it is interfering with their daily life/family/work/health etc. For example, cross dressing at home or engaging in similar private activities alone or with consenting adults to get gratification may not be a disorder, but part of the diversity of sexual drivers. However, I do still believe P is a disorder. That’s said, if the latter are taking no actions, then they only have my compassion. And I only mention them together due to the reference of both potentially being categorised as orientations/preferences, as opposed to conflating them.
India does seem to be obsessed with JK Rowling. The photo wearing the identical outfit was beyond creepy. However another creepy fact that has emerged recently is that India originally chose the name Joanne and lived under that name for a period before changing it to India.
Yes the pic! 🤮
@@JackxJewell AGP that wants to become JK Rowling? Next he can say that India is JK Rowling´s fault 🤣🤣🤣
He is a total nutjob. Unhinged.
It’s giving husband that transition to look and act like their wife.
If they do a full body X-ray of India's bones or do a mouth DNA swab, is it going show a man or a woman?
A man.
You can put Fanta in a Coke tin but at the end of the day, it’s still Fanta. 😋
It will show a c-word, but not in a biological sense
Archaeologists of the future will find India’s bones when all the tissue and hormones are long gone and say within a moment’s glance, “male.” So in addition to the first 49 years, India will spend the rest of eternity being judged by any informed neutral party as male.
If someone referred to me (a woman) with male pronouns, i would not react violently or emotionally. Obviously there is something in India that knows her maleness is permanent.
I’ve thought this so many times. I would think they are being very random but it wouldn’t have any bearing on anything
It’s narcissistic rage (see the “it’s ma’am” GameStop dude). He’s mad that people (*especially* women) won’t play along with his fantasy of himself.
ANd really dislikes that fact.
HIS maleness.
Same, I’m biologically female with masculine facial features like sharp cheekbones and several Trans women have asked me who my surgeon was. It didn’t hurt me in the least, nor cause me to question my femininity or inherent femaleness. Those homosexual-Trans folks who are closer to the drag side go through serious surgeries to try and feminize their faces. Some come out much prettier than I am-and with little to no cellulite 🙄 So even though they’re essentially telling me “you look more masculine than I think a woman ought to look,” I always took it as a compliment. You know when someone is coming from a hateful place or not. And healthy people have INTERNAL self-esteem that would bounce back even if they were offended or hurt.
*edited for autocorrect misspelling ‘ought’
Where does the forced compelled speech end!??? Thank God people are having none of it....beyond sick sick sick of ALL of it....
The World is waking up to this stuff
Jonathan is such a narcissist.
Yas!!!
He was in his element in the middle of those ladies fawning over him. That's why he's so furious when women stop toeing the line, especially JK Rowling, who's more famous, more glamorours, richer, more talented etc.
1st trans newsreader, when NEITHER are gender-dependent.
Full blown top of the spectrum ,malignant Narcissist.
I don’t care how you identify Just don’t expect me to play along with you For people who are supposed kind and inclusive I have never seen so much anger and hate.
Exactly. Many, not all, are so hateful... Be kind my erse
Ultimately, I don't think it matters what Jonathon thinks he is. He is an unlikeable, selfish individual. What he wants is the whole world to recognise him as a woman and then bow down to him. He spends his time crying because many of us won't do either. My compassion is in drought.
India's whole attitude is masculine.
AGP in all its varieties is dystopia. They are not women.
Loved your video. Very balanced - if anything too nice towards a nasty misogynist. What I recognise in Jonathan/India Willoughby is extremely agressive, narcissistic, arrogant, entitled male - ALL MALE - behaviour. As a straight man there is a nothing feminine about that bully. You seem like a decent, kind, person.
Thank you! Totally agree India is awful. I guess my angle was to show how India possibly got to this point because of AGP - and how most of society is not aware this is a thing. Thanks for watching!
@@JackxJewellI actually appreciate that approach. The way to solve this is with understanding, and maintaining inner compassion whilst holding external boundaries.
Thanks Jack! India sounds delulu
To put it mildly.
India threatens to show "her" cervix to multiple people. Definitely delusional!
Jack Jewell, I'm a cis male, straight as fuck. You're a diamond, talking common sense in an age of bullshit.
Well done mate.❤❤❤❤
Thank you! 🫡
I love JK Rowling! She has her feet firmly planted in reality!
She's a true hero
A very nuanced take, thank you for that! Does India Willoughby deserve compassion and grace? Well. I think as a default, everyone does. But - I think you also have to treat people according to their behaviour. If someone acts in a rude, disrespectful, unreasonable manner time after time after time, you have to stop wit the grace and the compassion and start laying down boundaries. The person in question is an adult. I think it is not unreasonable to expect him to behave like one.
It apears that Indias unreasonable behaviour is in parallel with the now heated online discourse. Name calling on both the radical feminist side and trans activists won't achieve anything. What will is compassion on both sides. This whole mess is mainly an online escalating war of words in the UK. The only trans people I see in daily life are on social media. Dispite what social media presents. My reality is living in a city is, once a year I'll spot someone. Fact only 0.00008571428% of the population have GRAs. That 6000 ÷ 70 million. 2% of males are genuinely homosexual. It's true there are a few more people now who identify as " trans". Of different flavours. In the now official debunked last census 250,000 identified as some kind of trans. Within the flawed terminology of tbe census. Anyone putting down anything other than transwoman?, were placed in the " other" category. This included transsexuals. Part the the homogenous catorrisation activists instructed them. The question that needs asking is. Does social media highly exaggerate the problem?. The facts say yes.
Absolutely not for India’s actions. I can see when examining the story how it has led India to this point of self centredness, so I can feel compassionate for what India went through, but it doesn’t excuse treating others how India has
@@JackxJewell food for thought before bowing out of the discussion. I recently mentioned to a women friend, that I was thinking of going sometime to the Warner Studios Tour. Would she be interested. Her answer surprised me. She said no, as her opinion was that JK is " against the gays ", I was surprised she even knew anything about her gender critcal beliefs. She obviously thinks, and links her love of drag acts to Jks beliefs. LGBT is so linked in some people's minds that, it's all the same. She's a Tory voter as well. We have tipped over a precipis where most people beleive this. Most people especialy non feminist women are only concerned if someone has a cock or not. When using women's spaces. Part of the original " Stanilan question ". The LGB alliance are seen as a fringe group of angry gays in all of the gay pubs I've visited with my couple of gay friends. Even a pub that used to be an almost exlusive lesbian hangout. I was surprised it changed its ethos to an LGBTQ bar. I asked my friend why. I was told that there were not enough lesbians frequenting it anymore. They're calling themselves queer now. It's almost certain that the Tories will be pushing the, as most people see it " the anti LGBTQIA agenda ". Labour will all most certainly win the next election. With many Tories voting Labour for the fist time. After they do. The Tories will resume their historical hatred of ideological feminism. Partly blaming them for their defeat. All reasoned debate now has gone with both sides of the so called gender wars. Queer theory over time will go by the way. What may come after will be trans humanism. The new trans cyborg implants will be the craze. I do think that the days of the Matachine social construction of homosexuality of the late 60s will never be the same. Effeminate gay men have had enough. Many like Same Smith reverting to the 1930s and before ideas of homosexuality. People are now more accepting of difference. Strip out the intersectionaly of woke, which I beleive has reached its peak. The world is facing greater challenges. A balance, an equilibrium will be reached. Only after the inevitable influence of anti homosexuality on the rise from some religions has been dealt with, aided by the far right. It's going to be an intersting time. Personaly I'm fed up with being one of the very few who support science. I'm now officially in retirement. Fed up of the cancellation. Bye
@@honberg193 Yes, the relatively small number of people is used to tell us not to worry, but somehow is dictating to over 99% of us. Also, it was women's compassion and kindness that led to ever- increasing encroachment on our spaces and identity. It's interesting that women just asking for respect and consideration and the right to have our own identity is seen as "radical feminism", as if only smiling sweetly when our rights, safety and privacy are eroded is the only acceptable way for women to behave.
@@MarthaAnthony I think your living your life on social media. Not the real world, where tran- nees aren't invading women's spaces. I've never, ever seen one in a public loo. Well not that I could tell.
India defended ‘Isla Bryson’ ‘s right to have female pronouns used and said that Isla might be a woman and that a “civilized society” would respect Isla’s identity. India did this instead of defending the protections made for trans people and saying that perpetrators shouldn’t be able to just take advantage of these protections and declare trans identities after their crimes. It wasn’t a female body that attacked those victims who worked for a conviction. India had even written an article about people abusing the prison system protections yet wouldn’t draw a line for a convicted abuser not to be able to declare a different gender after their crime. This showed no sense of loyalty or sisterhood to women or trans women for that matter so women now don’t feel loyal towards her.
Yeah it’s because if India acknowledges this person can be stripped of their claimed womanhood, then so can India. I think!
@@JackxJewell Maybe so. In that interview India talked about cherry picking bad apples, but the point of debating a GRA is to see if the policy has weaknesses, and this case pointed out that it does. It is a policy that bad apples can take advantage of so it has gaps to close. I just wish that there was more grace in these issues to say that much of this is a social experiment and we might try things and then have to revise as we go along. Society has always had gender nonconforming people, but people transitioning medically in these numbers now that it is more accessible isn’t anything society has navigated before.
There is no sisterhood, because India is NOT a sister, and neither is ANY OTHER Trans "woman".
India has also claimed that nobody ever exploits the system from their own end and all trans women are decent upstanding citizens no exceptions.
I have also seen India completely contradict themselves in an interview literally seconds apart so their opinion holds very little weight
Why would you expect this narcissistic, aggressive AGP to have any fellow feeling for women? That person doesn't recognize women as real or legitimate in any way.
That student screaming in the face of someone who disagrees with her. What rude entitlement!
These young people are insane. I cant believe they are so entitled, omg
I’m not a Harry Potter fan either, but JK Rowling and her supporters are 100% right, whereas Jonathan “India” Willoughby, other transpeople and their supporters are 100% wrong.
More like 1000 percent
Yea no. I don't have to have compassion when I've been a victim of narc rage from "transwomen", and narc men I have to cut out my life, I will not bend the knee for a man's fetish. Why is it MY responsibility as a woman to maintain his fantasy. Especially when many of these AGPs expect me especially to mule for them as a black woman. Empathy is long gone.
Yep the privilege and hostility is real.
White woman here ... also sick of MAN-kind's self imposed identity existential/identity crisis. MEN have misused their power AND siphoned WOMEN'S energy to make this THEIR world ... not OUR world. I'm also sick of their BS and their hatred/jealousy of the very HUMANS who grew them, nurtured them and gave birth to them ... and all the rest that goes with that. They so want to BE us that they'll attempt to change their sex/genitalia. That's a MEN-tal illness.
I think India provoked this confrontation specifically to be able to go crying to the police. Well, that nonsense blew up in her face.
JK saying something that you don't like, India, is NOT violence, and not a hate crime. Grow up.
Yes… India is almost 60 - I can’t imagine how she has the energy for all this
@@JackxJewell idiots seem to have an extra storage bin of energy. I guess they don't expend energy on logical thinking so it gives them plenty of energy to be idiots.
@@JackxJewell cult life
This was very well done, thank you~
Bottom line, female child + time = woman
Male child + time + transition = trans woman.
Pretending otherwise serves no good purpose. We don't pretend that anorexic people are right and call them fat because they believe that's what they are. We try to help.
If you leave 20 average young men + 20 average young women on an abundant desert island, you'd come back 100 years later to find new people. If you left those same men with 20 young trans women, you'd come back 100 years later to find 40 dead people.
Responsible, decent trans women are honest about who they really are. India Willoughby doesn't have that strength of character.
You have a good heart, Jack & I’m almost convinced by your call for compassion (😉 )
I’d be better able to feel that way if they would just keep it to themselves. It’s the desire - demand - that women & the rest of the world see them the way they see themselves, & to bow to their demands for our affirmation, that is so galling. A subjective view is not equivalent to objective truth & everyone should be able to assert this.
And it’s here that ‘India’ Willoughby cannot push through to reality. Your analysis of his paraphilia is spot on, & if he’d been able to contain it as what it is - a delusional state - he may have garnered more sympathy.
But his utter self-absorption, inability to see beyond his own needs & rejection of any objective reality has put him into an impossible place. If he does not have an awareness of his paraphilia, then he needs proper therapy. The fact that he would call that ‘conversion therapy’ is yet further proof that he has no intension of even trying to get his head out of his own backside.
Just as David Tennant did by saying that a woman should “shut up”, Willoughby continues to undermine every woman alive with his male privilege. The inability to understand that women do not know, in a women’s toilet for example, whether any given male is a threat or not, completely reveals that he has no idea what it is to feel line - or to be - a woman.
Wow! I didn’t know they canceled Contrapoints and she even hates JKR doesn’t she?? Wtf
Yep
That how these movements end. They go down in ugly infighting and mental illness, since it is impossible for anyone to live up the ever-changing ideals.
I vaguely remember my mother dipping her foot in the last years of the hippie-movement in the early 80's. It was sad and pathetic....
It is not a hate crime and if anyone "misgenders" a "cis" woman...they don't care as they know what they are.... and just because someone says otherwise doesn't make it accurate or true and all their evidence also backs up that fact...DNA chromosomes, pelvic and total body formation..... (heart and lung and throat size all which affect how fast she recovers and stamina etc... advantages which male-born bodies keep when competing in female sports...)
I wonder if it is a hate crime but women just wouldn’t report it. Wonder what would happen if they did 🤔
Women hate being called “cis”
"You don't know how I feel" while showing complete disregard for anyone else's feelings. This whole argument IS tied to a civil rights movement of a political minority - WOMEN.
I can’t understand why some trans women say that they have periods or fantasise with them. As a biological women I can say that most of us hate to have periods. It’s painful, messy, expensive….
What is sad to me is India spends a whole life discussing this. No one is going to ever be accepted by everyone... Delia Morris
Thank you, @JackxJewell, for speaking up, even at cost to yourself. Thank you for covering this topic and sharing your perspectives.
Loved your editing in this video! And your thorough research - building a case with receipts (from Twitter/X and interview clips) - allows your viewers to come to more informed conclusions, rather than just blindly agreeing (or disagreeing). Really appreciated this video!
Thank you Sara! Was a really interesting one to make 💜
I’m getting so tired of this biological + “woman” = biological woman. No one is saying they aren’t biological beings.
When I was younger and more naive, I went to Germany shortly after my grandmother died, I simply needed to get away as you can imagine. 1 night, I decided to venture to some of Berlin’s gay bars, one of which after walking in and sitting down, I look over my shoulder and quite literally see a guy elbow deep up another guy. I tell this story because there are those within the community who can fathom that someone would be into this, yet they draw the line at AGP being a thing at all.
That made me chuckle! It’s so true 😂. The gay community has seen it all
@@JackxJewell haha it was a sight to see, it certainly brought me out of the grief I was feeling at the time 😂
Manual evacutions are usually done in a hospital setting . . .
The more we evolve as a society I feel the less intelligent we become. Dunning Kruger for sure.
OH NO, I've NEVER played with lipstick as a girl growing up, I must be a man according to Willoby.... I could scream in the street and demand that everybody call me and see me as Idris Alba but everybody in the world will know I'm not...
I really appreciate people like you and canceled conversations. Thanks for speaking out, we need you.
Thanks! Daniel is doing really well
Absolutely fascinating! Thank you for all your hard work in researching and presenting this.
Thanks for watching!
This video was really well done. I'm dipping my toe into being a little gender - critical, but it's hard to find the nuanced discussions because so much gender -critical content is just so full of hate. Even your AGP discussion was nuanced and compassionate which I really appreciated. Will watch more of your content and have subbed!
Thanks so much!
haa all the madness out there makng ou finally need to dip your toe in? Take off our shoes is my advice. It is not hate and if it feels thus, it's sadly the pushback that comes of those who go to far into women's sports and spaces with a lack of respect and a denial of reality.It will cause a push back. Someone's personal identity is only their business as it is how they see them, not how others see them.
If you are dipping your toe, I’d start with Material Girls by Kathleen Stock (there’s an audio version read by Kathleen). KS is an analytical philosopher so lays are the conceptual issues with gender identity theory without any hate but also without the confusing language of postmodern philosophy loved by the pro-trans side. Kathleen gets flack from both sides precisely because she doesn’t take a purely black and white stance.
Im so glad AGP is being spoken about now more often. I personally only heard about AGP 5 or 6 years ago but it was from a trans activist and then i seen contra pionts making a debunking video about AGP so i didn't see it as a real thing. Now in the last 2 or 3 years i've seen so many videos like your own that explain it so well and i now know i've been AGP all this time. I used to just think of myself as a transvestite befoe the internet and then i search the internet for information to find out why i am like that and i found transvestite to be a negative thing and transgender to be positive and i started believing i was a woman and not a man with a fetish which the sites i was reading kept saying. But known spoke of agp. I know know that i had it right to begin with i am an transvestite. Or an agp as i know it now and i am a man and the reason i am an agp is because i have an inverted male sexuallity and not because i have a female brain/soul
Absolutely nothing wrong with having a fetish or kink. There are many ways to safely explore alone or with consenting adults. And I see nothing wrong with transvestiteism as a way to emotionally express or sexually release. Moreover, gender-bending presentation in public I’m all for, because gender norms are outdated, and why can’t people just be themselves? But the current movement appears to be undermining all of that, and simultaneously deleting gay, and destroying women’s rights, whilst penalising original-flavour trans. It’s absolutely a destructive force.
@@angelelida4680 100% agree with you
That Willoughby guy is obsessed.
One has to wonder how much 'outrage' keeps people in the public eye therefore earning revenue from TV appearances, magazine articles etc. Pretty lucrative maybe.
I'm on J.K's side, sorry transfolk but she's right. Gitcha frien
India is too far gone....AGP is a reality
I have never thought of Willoughby as an autogynephile. He divorced from his wife and publicly spoke out about not being attracted to women. I believed him to be a gay man with internalised homophobia, a homosexual transexuals. AGPs are heterosexual men with Transvestic paraphilias and are aroused by the thought of themselves as a woman and are attracted to themselves larping as female. Are there such things as gay autogynephiles? Surely that's an oxymoron? Gay men aren't attracted to women, whether that be real woman, or a fantasy version of a woman, either themselves or anyone else. What do you think?
If India is only attracted to men, then I am incorrect. But you can identity as ‘bisexual’ or ‘asexual’ and will still fit in agp - India could be either. If the agp sexuality is so strong, it can actually render external attraction mute. If asexual, it may still be easy for an agp to date a guy as it further validates their womanhood. But gay? I just don’t buy it. My gaydar is dead as a doorknob watching it all. Gay trans women don’t lead a double life and go away for a weekend cross dressing. They don’t flip from completely masculine to a female outfit and hair and suddenly they’re all ‘feminine.’ I also find India’s outfits not at all tasteful at the beginning… they’re sort of a man’s idea of what he fancies. I may be wrong, but you don’t see the gay type trans women abusing other women the way India has done for years.
@@JackxJewell I think you are right.
And if India knows what AGP is all about and is desperate not to have that label there’s an incentive to tell everyone you are not attracted to women. And seeing as India has slagged off lesbians in the past he probably realises he can’t really identify as one in public so has no option other than to say he’s attracted to men.
Obviously just speculation!
@@HomosexualTomBoy yeah great points
Homsexual attraction in regard to birth sex is described an external erotic attraction. Attraction to men, their bodies, their genitals etc. Romatic love of a man. This can be in an active or passive form. Those with AGP are not attracted in this way to men. Where as, internalised homophobia is being attracted to men and not expressing that attraction. The sex experts, the mainstream sexologists, such as Blanchard point out that one cannot be AGP and attracted to men. Some AGPs like the idea of a man finding them attractive. This is not the same. Some clarification on homosexual transsexuals. A quote from Dr James Cantor, who is a gay man and a fellow of Blanchard, Bailey, Soh etc. " We know that gay brains are slightly pushed in the female direction. You can take the homosexual transsexual in two ways. Either regular homosexuals are incomplete transsexuals, or the homosexual transsexuals are incomplete regular homosexuals " .All of Indias claims on the brain relate to homosexuals and homosexual transsexuals. From the evidence India was married to a women and produced kids. So their isn't any internalised homophobia.
@@honberg193 I don't know where my reply has gone, I can't see it. He stated on BB that he wasnt attracted to women and that he hadn't persuaded a relationship through fear, since his divorce. Many gay men marry women, especially those with internalised homophobia.
You're a brave man risking the narcissistic wrath and rage of Jonathan Willoughby !!! Hell hath no furey like a fake woman scorned !
17.55, it is far more harmful to their wives and children. Lsten to trans widows.
Otherwise known as "collateral damage" and vastly left out ( or silenced) in this discussion.
I think the reason Willoughby stays on twitter is for two reasons, validation because he does have a small following that endorse his beliefs that he's female. However the main reason I believe is because he currently doesn't work, he hasn't worked for a long time. He craves celebrity, he needs to keep himself relevant so he'll be asked to give interviews or do a bit of trash TV like BB. Without twitter he has no voice and would quickly disappear in obscurity.
I've been blocked by him after trying to have a debate with him about trans identifying males in female sports. He's very tunnel visioned and blinkered. Considering he thinks he's female he's very out of touch with with having empathy or understanding about women's rights.
Yes good point. I also think he can’t resist knowing there are people out there who don’t think he’s a woman
Liar Thomas *did* assault the females by his presence. 😳
Posie Parker went to the pool and shouted 'he's a man' it was hilarious
Yeah this video definitely hit! I had to go back and watch the first half since I missed it during the premiere, but I really liked what you had to say here.
I feel bad because I used to "hate" JK Rowling without question because I just was told she was transphobic and didn't really think deeper than that. As I've grown and thought for myself more, I feel terrible for demonizing her. I can't imagine how difficult it must be to try and speak out to protect women and our spaces, yet getting denounced by colleagues and friends because of it. Thank you again for the amazing video! It definitely helps me to articulate the thoughts I've been having as I reflect on my time growing up around "trans" kids and seeing the trend of transitioning online. (What do you think will happen to all the chronically-online "trans" men and women tik tok if the app gets banned in the US?)
Thank you! Don’t feel bad, I think it’s wonderful you were open to your mind changing. It’s a good sign that it is possible for any of us. Obviously for the majority, they feel they are condemning her for the right reasons.
On TikTok - I assume another company will swoop in and create an app with a similar model. UA-cam shorts and Insta Reels have a very different style of content, so they would have to diversify to assume that position.
I think Muggles go mad on social media and it would be better for the world if they had less of it. lOL. Good for questioning things you're told and thinking for yourself. Sad one needs to be praised for that, but it has become so rare.
Great video Jack. I found your discussion of AGP to be very educational and nonjudgmental, a perspective that’s very much needed in the trans discourse.
Thanks Ray! So much of it I’ve learned from you - I hope I did it justice! DM me if I got anything wrong! 💜
@@JackxJewell Ray is great!
This is honestly the best discussion of AGP I’ve seen so far. I’ve been listening to many gender critical and/or anti-trans individuals because I wanted to try to understand the full topic from all sides. This was so helpful to really understand the AGP disposition, especially in a way that wasn’t hurtful or judgmental. Thank you so much 🙏❤️
Thank you - that was really my aim so I’m really glad many of the comments are mentioning this :)
Do we need to understand these things? Most people don`t know about `gender critical`, `trans` `SRS` etc etc. They just know men masquerading as women need to keep out of womens` spaces and sports. What is so difficult about that, that it needs to be turned into a sociological discussion? All that does is make it a possibility for men who think they`re women to go into womens` spaces, as long as it`s argued well enough. And that of course is not acceptable, is ignoring women, and, again, making this all about men and their needs.
I feel like no matter how hard I try to express this thinking, people conflate it with me saying these men should be granted access to female spaces and their behavior ignored. I am saying that future men will continue to develop this sexuality. If we have better understanding over it, these adolescents will be more likely to get professional help and many of them won't even transition. So many young men are being lured by trans reddit 'egg' culture and porn. There are no professionals saying 'you have agp, let us help you.' The TRAs are the only group giving them a sense of belonging and support.
I find this similar to how the TRAs respond to statements like this:
-Me: I dont think trans women should be allowed play in female sports.
TRA: You're saying we don't exist!
It's so unproductive. I think a lot of the GCs don't want to face the fact that guys with AGP are human beings and how they have been so horrible to so many people. It could be your son. How would you feel if you had a child or family member suffering from this with no one to help guide them in the right direction?
Hopefully this makes more sense.@@barryledgister4496
Whoa....that aggressive attack on the woman who ' misgendered,' India...whoa...Im back to being pretty unsympathetic to this psychological abberation called AGP...and India in particular. Stop it... get some help.
AGP was new to me. and I'm 57, man, living in the free world. Why nobody is teaching this stuff in high schools? I never had to climb a rope in my life after. But sure could have used some better understanding of genders and phycology. O, and admin...😊
its all bs - - you missed nothing - these are perverted men that dont want to be told NO
This was so well explained and made so much sense especially when you compared AGP transsexuals and homosexual transsexuals. I also follow Alexis Blake - she is lovely.
Yeah she is great and very respectful 💜
@@JackxJewell Why thank you Jack
@@Alexis_blake00 fancy seeing you pop up Alexis! You are killing it, love your content and radiance x
I just wonder what happened to the idea that i may have offended you, i still dgaf. Be offended. Crazy it seems like it's become law that you cant offend somebody. People seem to conflate being offended with an actual attack. Just ridiculous
We are so privileged, its come to this.
A balanced and well thought out explanation of the current madness. Isn't it sad that a gay man shows more empathy for women's struggles than someone who claims to be a biological woman. Thank you for your contribution,
It's strange that noone takes offense to laws against crimes like murder .. the law isn't suggesting that without the law we'd all be on rampages, it's to allow for prosecution. If not for the law, then those few that are inclined to murder would be given free license to do so.
Is India Willoughby an Indian because she’s called India?
Thank you! So many people are so misinformed when it comes to JK Rowling
Thanks for watching!
Such a NEEDED channel. I’m waiting for Jamie and his goons to catch on to the new kid on the block, hatred will follow. Stand firm! 🙏🏼❤️
lol, is this Jamie Dodger? He seems very sweet but his takes are always very standard TRA arguments
Jamie Dodger has a massive following - loads of young impressionable teenage girls - many of them that have gone done the surgery route after being influenced.
I really hope that audience start finding your channel.
Yeah - the issues is that everyone that watches pretty much agrees with me! I'm not sure if I've seen comments before saying I've changed someone's viewpoint, which is wild. But most don't comment I guess, so maybe. Jamie seems like a nice person but he is pushing the agenda so hard. Always says the regret rate is 1%.@@HomosexualTomBoy
@@JackxJewell it’s his business because nobody cared for his thesis on transgender treatments in psychology. Careful, he’s quite militant and very absolutist in his views. Notice how he intentionally makes it about the gays occasionally. It’s the same tactic anthroposophical ‘medicine’ companies use by producing phytomedicine from plants that have been used for thousands of years while also promoting homeopathy so the public mixes the two things up and it gets this all natural, less synthetic chemistry etc. touch while at the core you’re paying for bullshit.
@@JackxJewell Jammi banned me because I asked about the systematic reviews of evidence and in a livestream told someone questioning if they were trans to not worry because they don't have to be defined by gender or sex.
She literally closed down the livestream.
She is an absolute extremist. The definition of bad faith and disingenuous. She knows the evidence exists and continues to pretend it doesn't. She's encouraging children, her main audience, to self-harm for her own ego.
Another fascinating video. I completely agree with your intelligent and carefully considered point of view. Thanks again ❤
@@christopher2cv thank you very much for continuing to watch and support 💜
For the algo🎉
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I love your angle and dedication to bringing actual reality into a conversation which is getting increasingly absent of it - but that intro, I had to skip it - recommended to keep without any of the effects, filters or time compression. Otherwise keep up the good work.
I have never virtue-signaled and never will.
Also, the "We are building a home here," clip has been and always will be 100% cringe. Colleges are about being educated, anyone that thinks otherwise has a screw loose.
Wow, this was very in-depth, thank you. Misogyny and male privilege is out of control and she will spiral into a breakdown if she does not practice some serious introspection.
Thanks!
Plz stop calling india she
Why do these more talked about transwomen get names of strippers? Reminds me of one of the characters in a Clint Eastwood film, Midnight in the garden of good and evil, he called himself Lady Chablis, yes from a wine bottle...
All i know about rowling is she doesnt want to be called "a person who menstruates" because she finds that to be vulgar.
Thank you for this discussion. I was previously too abrupt. I apologize. Your reasoned explanation of autogynephilia gives me a better perspective. I still dont think males with intact genitalia belong in womens space but Ifeel more sympathy for AGPs than I did previously. The points that folks such as Rowling make are legitimate and are about safeguarding, primarily. Some accomodation can perhaps be made without opening the bathroom doors wide ( so to speak) for bad actors to come in and damage women and girls.
Yeah I think you get a range of personality types within that group, like any men. Perhaps there are a higher percentage of personality disorders though than usual. Autism is also much more prevalent which can cause behavioural and social issues. But yes - no males in women’s spaces in any regard! 😁
That was absolutely bloody excellent. It was well research, well presented, (when you did actually get into it, longest intro I've ever watched), I learned a lot listening to you so I subscribed.
While the intro was good and catchy, I'd make it shorter because I almost switched off. When content is fast and loud and thrown me, I do normally switch off but I didn't with you Mmmmm I think your channel will grow and grow. Excellent reporting.
Thank you! And thanks for the feedback, very useful 💜
Terrific points made. Good job.
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Great video, but somewhat annoying that you keep referring to India as her
I did it without thinking. I don't obsess over pronouns to make a point. I don't respect India, so I don't care saying he. But I will call transwomen who are respectful and open 'she.' It doesn't mean I think they are women.
Thanks so much for your views
Thank you too!
Very educational, and so pleased you addressed trans narcissistic rage. Male patterns of violence persist too, I wonder if there is a link between that and the trans autogynophile typology?
Incredible analysis. This video hits it out of the park! (I don’t like the opening - too long and fast forwarding the voices sound terrible and it’s annoying).
Thanks!
42:05 true.. thats the bigger problem; the craving on acceptnce as a Woman: using masculine trades; and therefor really inhancing the difference between the genders(sex (?) .. 😂 so glad you Saw that, and Said it too.
I really Want to safe guard all genders and sexes; to a common better place; but we need to be able to tell the truth too. 👍🏼👏🏼🙏🏼 live in reality ..
The thing that’s struck me about India, is that one minute she’s saying “I’m a real woman”, while also celebrating her being trans.
Here’s my passport that says I’m a woman.
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Twitter bio says something like UK’s first trans newsreader.
Surely every time she logs into Twitter, she sees “the hate” she accuses JKR of on her own homepage.
After all, you can’t be trans if you weren’t a man to start with.
It’s all very confusing.
They’re not genders or sexualities. They’re personalities.
Theres only 2 sex/genders. That is the literal definitions of the words.
This is such an interesting deep dive! Thank you for making this. I guess the only question now is what can we do about autogynophiles when they transition or shortly before they do?
Some people think none should transition. From what I’ve read so far, I don’t think that will work. In history, there are accounts for some men in desperation wanting their parts just removed as they couldn’t deal with the dysphoria - before gender medicine existed. I think there will always be a small portion, at least, that will suffer perpetually if they don’t do anything.
The issue now, is lots of men who otherwise would have dealt with the feelings or had it mildly, are being lured into it because the services are so available, and the agp porn can cause the desire to build and build. If transitioning didn’t exist, lots of men wouldn’t become obsessed with the prospect of actually becoming the woman.
Regardless, I think gender clinics should all be identifying and diagnosing men with this so they are given lots of help in understanding it before making any permanent decisions. It’s never talked about! It’s mad how many trans women have this and they either don’t know, or have been brainwashed by the community to believe it all just means they are a woman.
If a society provides transition services, then I think 3rd unisex spaces should be mandatory, as women need to be protected as well x
I think your video was excellent Jack. Listening as a gay man too, I really enjoyed listening to your mature, balanced and non judgemental views on this subject. Some aspects of the trans movement has become quite controversial. There definitely needs to be more open discussion on this subject and your video I think is very helpful in doing that.
Thank you Andrew, that means a lot. Always great to see other lgbt people engage x
Outstanding video! Do you have any tips for someone considering getting into video essays/podcasting ?
@@LawyerLevin thank you!
I’m sure I would have lots. I would say just start making content and you will get better as you go. Don’t procrastinate wanting things to be perfect. I started on my phone with no mic or lights or anything and got better at editing as I go. I use CapCut for editing.
For video essays I do research and then plan out my arguments in bullet points, marking where I will use different articles or clips. I get inspiration when editing and new ideas come.
Most importantly, stay true to your style - you can take inspiration from people, but don’t feel you need to copy. Everyone has something unique to offer x